November 11, 2025 • 62 mins
In this conversation, Tahverlee Anglen shares her profound experiences with dark energies and spiritual guides, particularly focusing on the concept of bearsarks from Norse mythology. She recounts a reading with a spiritual guide who reveals the name of her bearsark guide, Gunnar, leading to an emotional and transformative moment for her.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Welcome everybody to another episode of Broadcasting Seeds. Our guests tonight,
I've got Taverlee is angling.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Good enough.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
And I'd like her to introduce herself, tell us what
she who she is, what she does and where we
can find her wonderful.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, first of all, thank you Bennett for having me,
and it's really great to be introduced with your deep voice.
You have such a you have such a radio voice.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
I'm thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
That's that's delightful. Yes, my name is Taverley and I'm
a hyph priestess, a practicing which the founder of the
Moon Temple Mystery School, author of a series of forthcoming
books that will begin releasing next year. And also I'm
a student of life. I do a lot of work
in the spiritual realm, and you, I also consider myself
(02:01):
to be a seeker of always learning new things because
I believe that the more we grow and the more
we develop, the more we realize we don't know. And
so you know, yes, yes, I teach and talk about
these topics a lot. And I also love the idea
that the more I know, the more I don't know.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I always say that on this show is the bottom
line comes down, does we don't know anything? It we
really done? And as soon as you start thinking you do.
That's usually on your show Now it's not.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Nope.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
So one of the things I've so you you describe
yourself as a priestess in the wild. Yeah, so what
does what does that mean? And when did this what
I guess wildness, Yeah, first awakening you Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And really great question. And I know you also asked
me where people can find me, so before I answer question,
I'll add that in. You can pretty much type my
first name into any social media platform and find me
because I have such a unique name. So if you
just look for taver Lee, you'll find me. Or you
can go to Moon Temple School dot com or even
taver Lee dot com, which is my future author site.
(03:22):
So there's you can you know, there's lots of ways
to find out. I'll put everything in the show notes,
do Yeah, great, thanks, And so your question about wildness,
I mean, in the word priestess, it's a really fascinating
thing to imagine how much of our lives we go
through living in the box of what we're told that
(03:45):
we should be, or or what we're told will actually
make us happy. Many of us weren't. I mean, I
wasn't necessarily told who I should be growing up. You know,
marketing tells us that, right, the collective tells us that,
schools tell you that, books tell you that. But in
my family, you know, there wasn't some sort of dictated
path on who I should become. But I was raised,
(04:05):
you know, like you, like many of us, with the
idea of this particular path is what you should take
to be happy, right, like, this will bring fulfillment. This,
you know, the right house, the right car, the right kids,
the right job, right the right university certificate, like, all
of these things are the path you should take. And
I did all of those things, and all the way
(04:28):
along the path, I had this nagging question inside me,
which was, you know, is this all there is? Like?
Is this all there is? And I knew that question
existed in me, and many of us know that question
exists in us. And for me, the bigger part of
what cracked that open is when I started experiencing a
(04:49):
lot of difficulties in life. You know, the marriage I
thought I was supposed to have that would lead to this,
you know, some exalted state of perfection of you know,
a successful woman and mother fell apart. And when that happened,
I started really asking deeper questions. And then I actually
continued on in that box. I said, Okay, well then
you move on, right, you move on, You find another
(05:13):
another way to relate to a human and create a
life together. And that question never left and it wasn't
until for me going through some different health challenges. You know,
I've had twelve major surgeries, and if you could see this,
you'll see, like I have a lot of different tattoos
and there's a series of birds on my left shoulder
(05:33):
that go around my shoulder blade and they all represent
a major surgery that I have survived. And there was
one particular time when you know, the precariousness of my health,
I was having a post surgical complication, and there was
a time that I thought, you know, like it this
could be it, like this could this really could be it?
(05:54):
And I was okay, you know, I because I had
been through so much change and turmoil all through the
course of my life, just like everyone else. I don't
want I mean, my challenges were big challenges for me,
but we all have challenges. And when I got to
that place and I realized, wow, I've survived a lot,
I've done a lot, I've been courageous, I've tried new things.
(06:16):
I've raised my children who were teenagers at the time, Like, Okay,
if this is it, I mean, maybe I did do
what I was meant to be here for. And I
was really at peace with that and then of course
I had to have an additional surgery. The complications I
had was following having a lump removed from my breast
and that became a full body infection that went into
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my lymph system. And when they went in too like
do the final surgery to clear that issue, and I
woke up the next day, I'm like, oh, okay, this
is interesting. I didn't have a near death experience when
I was under anesthetic during that time, but I I
(07:00):
was taken to the edge of what I call like
a cliff, and I can still today see it clear
as Dave. Even though I was under general anesthetic, I
could see what the like the cliff on the other side,
let's say. So I didn't go there, but I saw it.
And when I woke up the next day, that question
(07:21):
of is this all there is? Just blew me open
because to me, I realized, oh, if that would have
been it and it wasn't, then every day matters, right,
then every day matters? And so then I actually really
just started asking that question is this all there is?
And that led me down paths to exploring a lot
(07:41):
about myself that had always been in my life, Like
I'm a seer, that's just how my own spiritual gifts work.
And I started to explore, like why me and what
is what does this mean? Because I knew these things
were true about me, but I didn't necessarily have a
place to talk about it. So I started talking about
all these things that felt very mysterious to me. And
(08:03):
I feel like what happens is when you when you
seek answers to the unanswerable question you, It's like the
universe or God or the Goddess like drops bread crumbs
to take you down a path to learn. So I
was I'm still bread crumbed, you know, still get I
still get more information. And that led to me exploring
(08:25):
the idea of sovereignty. And when I really started exploring sovereignty,
then I started meeting other spiritual practitioners. I started meeting
witches and oracles and shawmans, and I started studying and training,
and then I initiated into one path, and then I
initiated into another path. And then I kept studying and
I kept learning, and I kept practicing, and I feel
(08:48):
like I just I just keep finding deeper layers of
this mystery of it all, which to me is the
unanswerable question and that's what I mean by priestess of
the why is I I'm willing to be wild in
my beliefs. I'm willing to be wild like nature because
I know that everything is a cycle and this is
just a part of my cycle of my soul.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Yeah, good answer, it was long.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I'm like, yeah, no, no, this is also this is
your interview, like it's for you to talk, not not
for my audience.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
To hear me.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
They want to hear you, so thank you. So another
thing looking you know, I don't I did some research
for this interview, and one of the things that I
see is the term the word which which still it
still sparks controversy, right and and curiosity. So with that,
(09:47):
what does that word mean to you? But I also
want to know what doesn't it mean?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
M Those are two very good questions I find myself
over the last couple of years of the in the
large of interviews I've done. And you know, I talk
a lot on social media. I do a lot of
videos that I would actually tell you that that definition
to me personally changes daily because and so when I
try to put it into a couple of sentences, it
(10:15):
can become hard. But and I can't say that I
speak for everybody, right like the idea, the definition of
which is so different for everyone, But for me most
of the time, it means someone that understands that we
have access to more than just the human world, and
we can utilize that energy to create change, and that,
(10:36):
to me is the most simplest form. I could say,
you know, a witch is someone that cast spells. I
could say a witch is someone who knows how to
tap into the universal flow of energy that divines all things.
I could say a witch is someone who understands divinity
in everything. I could also say that not all witches
(10:57):
are psychics. Not all psychics are witches. Not all whiches
cast spells. Not all witches hex like all these different
areas on how it fits, and the only way I
know how to describe it is with all things that
involve any type of human there is a spectrum about
what they looks like. I do realize that one thing
(11:19):
that is unique about me is that I I bridge
spirituality in witchcraft. I sit pretty strongly in the middle
of the two, and I know that there are a
lot in my own communities, there are a lot of
practicing witches that don't really bring spirituality into it. And
you know, I also have a lot of people that
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are walking a very powerful spiritual path in their life
and they would never identify as a witch. And it's
almost like these two questions come up as you know,
from a spirituality perspective, you know, how do you surrender
and look for the signs right the breadcrumbs and follow divinity?
Like how do you how do you just be so
aligned in your frequency that you are guided in your path?
(12:04):
Like that's kind of you know, like the spiritual side
and the witchcraft side is, well, I desire a specific path,
so I'm going to put things in place to guide
it or co create it, you know, And they kind
of sometimes can sit in different sides of the pendulum. Really,
And I get asked this question all the time, like
do you teach spirituality or do you teach witchcraft? And
(12:25):
I'm like both because to me, they're both. They're both
diff different avenues towards the same goal. It's whether or
not you choose to be an active participant, which you
already are through your beliefs, through your energy, You're already
creating all the time, But whether or not you consciously
want to change that to me is more the path
of a witch.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Gotcha?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
So do you believe that it's something you're born with
or something anyone can learn to embody?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I think anybody can learn to embody. I think it's
just a label right at the end of the day. Also,
so you know, I do think that it's a privilege
and where I live to be able to identify as
a practicing witch. You know, in some parts of the world,
people will still be humans, will still be persecuted and
killed for identifying with that title or doing anything that
(13:15):
is deemed as witchcraft. I think it's a privilege to
identify as a witch. I and for me really to
reclaim that word meant I'm reclaiming sovereignty over my own path.
That that box. I know that I've been, you know,
striving for however many years of my life to fit into.
You know, I flipped my middle finger to that box
when I reclaimed the word witch. And I know that
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it I know that it triggers a lot of people.
But most of the time, if people ask me questions
and we talk deeply about it, they're like, oh, well,
that makes sense, because you know it's you know, Hollywood
and the persecution of really women has created that bad
taste in our mouths, and and and kind of it
it should in the sense that that word has been
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use to persecute women for a really long time.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
A really long time.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, yeah, what inspired you to create Moon Temple mystery School?
And like, in what kind of transformation do you see
most often in your students? I guess that's two questions,
but let's start.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
With the first.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, opening a.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
I remember, it's no small undertaking.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
It's no small undertaking. I remember the moment that I
decided that this was a path that I was going
to lead, and it happened in combination with walking through
other mystery schools and experiencing more mistreatment of people that
weren't perfect, that didn't fit the perfect scenario of that
(14:53):
mystery school's ideology of how somebody should practice that craft. Now,
I I believe that when you enter any type of
initiate path, specifically that you're agreeing to learn it that
way while you're in that path, and then what you
do with it after is you know, up to you.
But I do believe that when you when you choose,
especially if there's you know, a commitment on your part.
(15:14):
If you're committing to learn something specifically, you should go
all in and learn it. And I still teach that way,
and you know, the teachers I had also taught that way.
But if that if that comes with this idea that
you could be too in touch with your body, that
you could be too quiet when it comes to sharing,
that you could have some sort of you know, learning
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disability and learn differently, or some type of mental health
issue that wouldn't allow you to fit that box. To me,
that's the same dogma that we're trying to avoid. And
unfortunately I saw it and I felt I felt like
the the idea that someone's imperfection should be a gate
keeping exercise to the mysteries as I've learned them didn't
(16:01):
sit well with me. So I wanted to open something
where inclusivity was possible that I you know, I do
expect people when you it's only on you know, the
initiate path, to come in prepared to learn and do
it this way and then take what resonates and leave
the rest and that anybody's anybody can walk like you
don't have to you know, you can walk the path.
(16:21):
You don't have to have a lineage. You don't have
to have a certain set of beliefs. You know, if
you have an open heart and this interest you, then
you're welcome here. And I know that that isn't how
modern day mystery schools are run today. Maybe if you,
I know, if you, but there's still you know, this
idea that it's only for the select few is dogma
(16:44):
that I wasn't willing to participate in. And that's really
what led me to opening the Mystery School. And it
was a it was a serious undertaking. I had just
launched my first business, so this was going to be
my second business. And I did one of the largest
ceremonial conductions that I've ever done just before I opened
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the Mystery School and it's called a headless Rite, and
I performed this ceremony to allow and for people that
don't know what that means, it's a ceremony where you're
speaking a lot of different language words, you're invoking a
lot of different elemental leaders, You're bringing in a lot
of ancestors of the path you know to support you,
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and physically you're putting your head below your heart so
you know you're you're going through a type of spiritual death,
so something new can be born. And when I when
I did that, I knew that I was going to
be held to a I was willing to be held
to a higher standard of my own values and my
own beliefs in order to be a temple keeper for
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the mysteries and initiate others. And I accepted that and
that's so. Yeah, it was. It was significant, and it
was one of the most amazing things that I've ever
chosen to do.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Yeah, So what's your your view on Like, I guess
I'll call it shadow work? Like, can people dive too deep?
Or is darkness just another teacher?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well, darkness is definitely another teacher.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Yeah, obviously. Yeah, I mean, but like you know, yeah,
people dive too deep. Oh look, let's look at that
in two ways.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I think a lot of people ask that question, wondering
if you go too deep in the shadows, can you
enter the demonic world? Like, that's sometimes the way that
that's asked. So I'll set that aside and come back
to that. If we just look at shadow work kind
of as it's known in the mainstream way, it's really
just exploring your traumas, your triggers, your wounds like to heal.
(18:54):
If if you're on an ongoing journey to heal and
at last thirty years and you never feel like you've
heal enough to actually live life, then you've gone too deep.
You know, there's there's a place for shadow work, and
I think it comes up a lot right where we
we are re triggered at new levels every time we
grow myself, myself included, I can I can even give
you an example of how I I even bump up
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against my shadows that I healed years ago that kind
of resurface in a new way, and that is in
the publication of my forthcoming books. You know, there's there's
a there's a new level of me, of vulnerability being
explored when I am writing the books that I'm writing,
because I share very personal stories in these books about magic,
and it's called you know, the series is called Sacred Magic.
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And there's four of them by direction. So the first
one is the North, the second the East, the third
the South, and you know, the fourth the West. And
I explore I share a lot of very personal, vulnerable
parts of my path and I you know, I definitely
get triggered a little at the idea of how exposed
I am, like the idea of being seen in this
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way because you know, these little voices in my head.
You know, that's like, oh, that friend I had when
I was a senior in high school, how are they
going to feel about me sharing all these parts of me?
Speaker 5 (20:07):
They're going to judge me.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And so that shadow that I have, the fear of
being seen, which is part of my own witch wounding,
it has resurfaced, and I feel like we clear shadows
and they get retriggered, and then you know, hopefully we
learn the tools on how to actually address the shadows
and heal them over and over again, not to stay
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in them.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
To me, the idea of doing shadow work is to heal,
not to stay in the shadows. Like we're meant to
go in into our shadows to become better humans, you know,
better in whatever belief system or practices we have to
be better, and then you know, set them aside until
it resurfaces again and hopefully learn how to how to
heal yourself better as you go along. More tools, right,
(20:50):
more tools in your toolbox. Now the demonic side, So
let's talk about that. I do think that there is
a lot of misconceptions that when you are doing under
world or shadow work, or I consider myself a shadow walker,
meaning I walk into the very dark places in people's
lives very often alongside them because I'm comfortable holding that
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space to help show them where the light can be found.
And a lot of people feel super uncomfortable with the
idea of underworld or shadow world. And I will say that,
like with all things that include humans, there's darkness in
every area of our existence, the spiritual realm, the mental plane,
physical plane. Darkness is here. We all have experienced darkness.
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And you know bad people, you know bad spirits, and
so can can can doing a lot of shadow work
lead you to dark places that could open you up
to demonic experiences, maybe because if you get too caught
up in the shadows, you're allowing cracks in your energy field,
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and those cracks can allow you know, dark energy inside
of you. And I don't know your what your experience
is with this, but I know I have moved a
lot of entities out of humans, and those entities are
not bad spirits that have entered the humans. They are
dark balls of negative unprocessed trauma right and unprocessed pain
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that lives inside of somebody's body so much that it
becomes its own sentient thing. So so yeah, that's a lot,
I'll let you.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Yeah, no, no, no, I no, I was just but this
is exactly where I wanted this to go, because it's
one of those things where people hear the term shadow
work and they think immediately, you know, demonic or something
along those lines, where it's actually more like, you know,
everyone has a light side and the dark side, and so.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, and if you think of if you think of
shadow work as just going into the parts of you
that you hide from the world exactly, or the parts
of you that you you don't even realize you still carry.
Right Like a lot of times, just even embarking on
any type of shadow work, you realize that you hold
so much subconsciously in your initial programming that it still
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just lives inside your body like an operating system, and
you don't even know that it's there. Shadow Work is beautiful,
and the way that it unearths these things that you
think do you don't even realize drives your day to
day life. And when you heal those parts of your
or you even just bring a little light to it, right,
I don't know who originally said this, but we I've
(23:36):
seen it and heard it all over social media. And
that's that you're not standing in the light if you
don't have a shadow.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Yeah, true story.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
So the difference, how do you how do you think
you can tell the difference between like intuition guiding us
or trauma talking to us.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I really love the way you worded that, because that's
not usually the way that I'm asked that question. It's
inside your body, right, and knowing how your body feels,
like what is a yes in your body? What is
a no in your body? What is a trauma response
in your body? You have to know yourself deeply enough
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to be able to discern between the lens of fear, pain,
and trauma and the lens of guidance. So, for example,
in former parts of my life, I have been a
Krobmagon instructor, so I've spent a lot of years teaching
self defense, and I have interacted with a lot of
people who have experienced violence. And once you have experienced
(24:44):
something violent, you carry a foggy lens of fear right
that every time you walk around a corner or go
down a dark alley at night that something could recreate
that situation. And one of the most powerful ways to
learn self defense is to have situational awareness. Like we
teach people to trust what you feel when something feels off,
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trust that it is. But what happens if you have
trauma around physical violence and everything every corner you turn,
you know, creates that feeling of intuition that something bad
is going to happen. And so that's an extreme case,
but it's actually a really good study of how intuition
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and you know, trauma kind of come together. In most cases.
When you learn how to heal where that first issue
came from and recognize that you will probably carry a
skewed lens in that area, then it allows you to
maybe add a second layer of verification in right. And
(25:48):
that's I teach a lot of people to because it's
not usually in all areas of our life. So let's
go back to that situation. If someone has experienced something
physically violent and they carry the a skewed lens around
that intuitive hit when they're outside, they likely don't have
that lens when it comes to what they should have
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for dinner, or what business projects to go to, or
what job they should take next like that lens is
probably a little more clear in another area of their
life when you know where your lens is a little foggy.
It just requires a little more time to think it through,
like a little more time to ask yourself, like and
I teach you with a hand on your heart and
a hand on your belly to ask and really connect
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to your body and say, is this my intuition telling
me this? Or am I seeing it through the lens
of something else? And if we if you learn to
trust what that first thing that comes when you're listening
to your body, then it usually leads you the right way.
Even if your mind is saying but, but, but but
but you know your body is going to say something different.
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And it's really just important to know how to listen
to your bodies. Yeses, and your bodies knows ye understand.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I'm going to lighten it up a little bit. So
you've seen my podcast and what we talked about. So
one of the things I always ask people is do
you have any I guess you would call it supernatural
type experiences or things were like you go out in
(27:23):
the woods and you've seen or had an experience with
a cryptid or something like that, anything that pops into
your head that I.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Have so many, Okay, awesome, Okay, this will be fun. Okay,
So I'll tell you a couple of really great ones,
and these I'll start with some small ones. So I
sat on a deck a couple of years ago on
the island that I live on now, before I had
lived here, I was just visiting, and I was asking
this question of what it would be like to live here, right,
(27:55):
because I live on a tiny little island out in
the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, and I was asking
this question. Was the middle of the day, the sun
is shining, you know. I had a bikini top on,
and I'm enjoying this beautiful backyard. And I noticed movement
to the right, and I looked over to this field
of gnarled oak trees and tall grasses, and there was
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a pond near there, and a group of energetic beings
that almost seemed to be outlined in white like chalk.
Maybe I'm walked through, and they were physically moving without moving,
as spiritual beings do. They moved across the fields and
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stopped right in front of me, and I proceeded to
spend probably about ten minutes communicating with these spirits, and
some of them were super short. It was quite interesting
to me, and I'm I'm used to communicating with spirits regularly.
It's a normal part of my practice, but I don't
necessarily see them physically appear. But I'm really open minded
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to periods of time when the veil is lowered, so
I don't have a I don't get a fear trigger,
which I think sometimes stops a lot of people from
experiencing that. Right, So I allowed it to happen, and
I asked some questions and I received some information. And
you know, they in the way that spirits do you know,
they kind of telepathically give you information while you're seeing
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this like holographic thing in front of you. And I know,
I know, it's so bizarre, and yet I can tell
you in my line of work, this happens to people
all the time. They just don't have a place to
talk about it. This is a normal thing. And I
think that there was a Gallup study done during the
COVID years that asked how many people have experienced some
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type of spirit communication in their life, and it's like
seventy five percent a lot. It's a lot. So I
know that we think it's weird to talk about it,
but really people are like, oh yeah, I've experienced that
something like that. But they communicated to me, they give
me information for like ten minutes. They said this is
what you should expect, this is what we want, this
is what you do, and they were gone. I thought, Okay,
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that was quite interesting and again just a normal walk
in the life for me. So that was a super
one that I like. And I was just recently thinking
about that. Because I now live on these lands where
that happened, I can share some really great stories too.
There's a spiritual coaching client that I have that I
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work with regularly, and I remember one of our very
first sessions. We were on zoom kind of you know,
on a screen like you and I are, and behind
her while she's on the screen, I slowly watched her
door shut like shut go from open, and I watched
it and I could see her watching it in the screen,
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and we both paused and we just watched the door
close and I said to her, you know, you have
a visitor, and she's like, oh, yeah, that that spirits
here off times that happens. And these are the stories
that I love where regular spirit interaction becomes normal. Now
some of the wilder ones. I have witnessed a particular
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type of spirit enter into a human's body and change
the body's complete composition, including voice cadence. And by the way,
this human opened for it like this was a this
was chosen because we are always in control, right, so
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this was a chosen thing. And it was really interesting
because what happened when that spirit left that human body
is that human had a such a wake up to
what is possible just from that one shifted experience. Now
she didn't do that again, it wasn't her preference. It
was discombobulating for her. But what happened is her spiritual gifts,
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like that dial got turned up so loud to where
she literally could start to see the crystalline grid on
the planet. She saw color like energy appear in colors.
So I thought that that was a super And these
are all winds, right, I'm sharing your stories that were winds,
winds or let's just say, positive experiences. Yeah, that's amazing,
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kind of cryptic. The more interesting side of things. I'll
tell you a really great story about me if you
would like. And this isn't cryptic, but it is pretty wild. Yeah,
the very first headless rite that I did, so I
told you about the one I did for Mystery School.
That was my second. The first time I did that ceremony.
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I had rented these houses that are called earth ships
in New Mexico, like half buried in the earth and
then one side is like all windows. So I knew
I was going to do this big ritual. It's the
first time I'd done something like this. I was going
to do it by myself. I rented this house and
it's a longer story how I got to that. That
part's not for today, but I knew this was going
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to happen. It was months in the planning. I get there,
you know, the day of the ritual, I did a
ritual cleanse and I had on this little sheer kind
of robe after because it's like, you know, thirteen acres
of private land, and I go outside to light the
fire for you know, preparation of the ritual, and both
of the doors slammed shut and locked, so I'm basically
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naked outside and there's there's nothing and earthships are this
big thick glass, right, because they're like solar powered.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
So it's not like You're not like Chimmy in the window.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
And I tried to break a window. I tried to
put a rock through the window. I tried to push
a barbie. I was willing to pay for anything to
get back into the house. And my truck was unlocked,
but there was nothing in it that I could use.
But what I did find was my combat boots were
left there because it was muddy when I was unloading
my truck, so my combat boots were outside. So I
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strapped on knee high combat boots pretty much naked, and
had to go on a quest to get help.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
Oh No, And many many, many, many many minutes and
miles of walking later, I found myself on this dirt road.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You know, the sun had gone down by now. I'm
having multiple panic attacks, like I had already opened ritual
space right like I was. I was already in an
altered state, and so I kept just thinking like why
is it? Like how am I not meant to do
this ritual? Like this is this a no sign? Like
what is happening? And I'm nervous and I'm sweaty, and
I'm naked and I have combat boots on and I'm
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walking down this dirt road trying to get to another
house because I had already gone to a few and
there were no people there. And I I'm walking on
this dirt road and I hear this noise behind me
and I'm like, oh, holy God, is it's a vehicle.
And I felt a mixture of relief that I'm going
to be helped and a mixture of nervousness because holy
goad zooks, I'm like, not clothed, looking wild, late night crazy,
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And sure enough it was this young man pulled up
in a construction truck next to me where I turned
my head and his window was rolled down and his
mouth was like dropped wide open, and he's like, didn't
say a word, and I'm like, uh, can you help me?
I've locked myself out of house. And I had the
nervous babble. I nervous babbled a lot. Well, he helped me.
I ended up having to get in his truck and
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go for a drive because there was no cell phone signal,
and we got help. And this whole story happens, okay,
And I mean I've literally died a thousand times in
this of embarrassment. By the time I got back into
the house and his name was Gunner, and somewhere in
my you know, hour of nervous babbling trying to get
me back into the house, I must have somewhere along
the lines mentioned that I had run because he kept
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asking like what are you doing outside of the house
like that, you know, like what's happening? And I, you know,
I'm private in my practices and situations like that. But
when he went to let me back in the house,
we had to go. He was able to dig into
the ground, found where spare key would dug into the ground,
and found the key let me in the back door. Well,
what he sees through the window is the stainless steel
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table surrounded by candles, looking like there's going to be
some sort of serious sacrifice. But really that was dexter
I'm sure, But what I mean that table was actually
where I was going to paint after. You know, I'm
an artist, so I paint after. But it didn't look
like that. So I sent him on his way, and
sure enough, ten minutes later, I hear this knock, knock,
knock on the door, and Gunner had returned and said,
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so you have rum, And I'm like, oh, gosh, okay, okay, Okay,
So here I am trying to decide am I going
to complete this ritual or am I going to be
tempted by this? And by the way, did I mention
I was single at the time, and he was super hot,
you know, like super hot, So I mean he's already
seen all my body parts by then. And I really
had to like sit with it for a minute, and
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I decided to complete the ritual. And I realized somewhere
along the way that that whole quest, that whole journey
was part of the ritual, like it was it was
all orchestrated as part of the ritual, because you know,
the headless ride is to die so you can be reborn. Well,
I literally died a thousand times of embarrassment, like I
you know, I probably sweat ten pounds of nervousness off
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me and that so okay, so this is enough of
a wild story, right, like this is this is crazy. Well,
several months later, I was writing my first book, which
I haven't published. It is my I was writing my memoir,
and I could feel this every time I would write,
every time I was in a writing period, like this
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gigantic red winged bird was hovering over me, and I
almost would look up, like to my ceiling to see
if there was something there, because I could feel this
presence and it kind of changed and it looked like
an animal face, and then it kind of looked like
a bird, and then it was black, and then it
was red, and it was definitely a darker energy. And
(37:50):
I worked hard trying to communicate with it to understand,
like what this is. And because it was only happening
while I was writing, I didn't know. I just, you know,
sometimes we just don't always know, and sometimes it takes
time to figure things out. So I booked a reading
with a man in Colorado who is really comfortable doing
readings with darker energies, and I, you know, I explained
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to him what I was writing. I explained to him
about this thing that's been hovering nearby, and we do
a little bit of shamanic work together and he stops
and he says, Okay, I got it. You have a
spirit guide that is a bear sark. And I say,
what's a bear sark? And he goes into the mythology
of Odin right in Odin's army that you know, men
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would turn into bear sarks in before battle you know,
in order to be unkillable, which is where the word
berserk comes from, you know, And they just become shapeshifters
and they're they're super powerful and the only way for
them to shape shift from a bear sark back to
a human is to throw hot coals at them or
the side of a naked woman. And I already to
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get like real tingly like when he said that, and
my voice goes like to n just hire and I say,
does my bear sark guide have a name? And he said, yeah,
his name is Ghannar.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Ghannar.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I I mean I if, I mean, if you've ever
if you've ever ever seen like a witch melt like
in shock, and I do a lot of shocking things,
so for me to be so shocked, like my my
head hits the desk, I start to cry. I'm laughing
and I'm crying. And I finally tell him the story
of what had occurred months before, which I didn't know
they were. They were so far apart in my own life,
(39:35):
I didn't put the two and two together. And he said, oh, yeah,
your your guide gnar. You know, at the sight of
you naked, picked you up on the side of the
road and he said to me, did you ever talk
to him after? And I said no, he gave me
his number, but you know, that was a pretty wild thing.
He's like, let's let's call it. I'm like, oh, my goodness, gracious, here,
I am like right back in my thousand Deaths of nervousness.
(39:57):
And I pull out my phone while we're right there,
and I call his number, and of course it's not
in service. So it was this wild, wild experience. And yeah,
yeah it was. And there's so many things that had
to happen inside of me and my comfort to be
uncomfortable in the spiritual realm for that to happen.
Speaker 8 (40:20):
That.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah, that's one of my favorite stories.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Yeah, that's pretty neat.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, wild. I do write about it in my book,
so you know, if anyone ever buys my book, you're
gonna you're gonna see my my shock at it. And
the person who did the reading for me when he
when he saw the whole experience, he had this like deep,
I want to call it like a Santa Claus or
like a you know, like a nourse. He's like a
nourse God laugh. So his laughter I think it reverberated
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through lifetimes. When he heard the story and he kind
of did a bow to Ghannara and said, well done
and taking care of your woman. And I'm like, I
don't know how I feel about any of this.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
It's really it's really funny.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
It's wild.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
It definitely is. Do you kind of, with that being said,
do you believe that, I guess in this time that
we're in now right a heightened spiritual conflict or is
that more of a perception that's part of an awakening
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process itself.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Hm hmm, Okay, let me let me switch kind of
energies to talk about that. I mean, yes, I do.
I think spiritual warfare is happening right now at a
at a very serious scale. And I believe that the
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more that we do work on ourselves to keep our
frequency at a certain level in openness and exploration and
connection to divinity, and I feel like one awakened human squashes,
you know, like three hundred of the darker side of
spirituality that is kind of seeping in. Yes, I actually
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know it to be true. I know spiritual warfare is true, right.
I know it's real right now, and I'm thinking about
how deep we can go into the discussion. But this
spiritual warfare that's happening right now is for our consciousness, okay, right,
it's to take away you know, sovereignty and freedom, which
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requires you to have a level of consciousness about yourself
and the world at large, because you are only truly
free when you realize it's only you that's going to
be able to rescue you and understand the cycle of
your soul and connect it to nature. I mean, true
freedom comes when you strip away all the material you know,
things and addictions and you know, distractions. I mean that
(43:01):
part over there is true freedom, and everything is working
against humans living in that space right now, and with
that comes a lot of dark A lot of darkness
is being fired at people and they're swallowing it without
realizing they're swallowing it.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. No, I tell.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Me what you think about that, because you talk to
a lot of people I do.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
I would agree there's definitely a spiritual warfare of some
sort going on. Whether it's yeah, I mean, and it's
obviously light and dark. I mean that's how you know,
I describe it at least, right, And there absolutely is,
and it's definitely a war for the mind, for consciousness
(43:44):
or you know, and this is why I talk about folks,
and I don't really talk about it on my episodes much,
but there's so many people that are just silent even inside.
They're just I don't like to say dead inside. They're
just like non player characters. They're nty seeds. I know,
we hear this phrase all the time. So it's like
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I look at it as a way that they're being bombarded,
like you had said, with all of this, just to
keep them in their shell, keep them down and quiet.
So I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it. Actually, And then
you have other folk, folks that are awake, and I guess,
you know, I don't want to get into the verbiage
(44:28):
with that, but you know, there's people that are that
are present and actually in the fight, and then there's
people that I think have already shut down to the fight, right,
and our job is to wake those people up. Yes,
So that's kind of how I view it. By the
reason that my podcast it's called broadcasting seeds because that's
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what I'm doing. I'm throwing seeds, broadcasting them to the world, right,
So just trying to wake one person enough, you know,
one person at a time.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
So that's that's my.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
I agree, and thank you for sharing that. I I
knew you felt that way, but I wanted to I
wanted you to verbalize it here because I do think
that in most instances, you know, non player characters are
probably not listening to this show, but their friend might be,
their friend might be, their partner might be, their neighbor
might be, and and then that conversation can happen. And
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I do see it. It is possible to be so
awake that that energy itself impacts other people without you
having to even have the words, like, I do believe
that energy of a wackedness it just impacts how much
you live, how you live that that does create influence,
And there's lots of ways. I mean, you're doing it,
(45:47):
I'm doing it. I think that we're all here to
play different roles too, write like non player characters are
filling a role. Not really, I mean, we're all here
to play rules. And I tell people that non player
characters wake up when it's time to wake up.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
True, And.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Everybody's version of what a wake looks like is so
divided right now. And the trap that you see everyone
falling in is that if you don't wake up, this way,
you're now part of the wrong side of the war.
And if you don't wake up this way, you sit
on that side of the line. When the truth is
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there are a thousand paths to divinity. So how do
we how do we look at that in a bigger scope?
It's hard, Yeah, And I do you know, I sit
on something called the Wisdom Keeper's Counsel, and it's a
whole bunch of indigenous leaders and spiritual leaders all over
the world. And you know, some of the work that
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this group has done together has you know, written books
that get commissioned by the United Nations. Like it's a
group of very wise people. And I consider myself to
still be very much a learner in these meetings, like
somebody learning, although we all share equally, and I do,
I do think that there is there is positive hope
that the breaking down we see now is part of
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what's going to be rebuilt with higher levels of consciousness attached.
And part of part of that is because the children
that are born now, they're coming in, like their souls
are coming into human bodies a little more awake.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
That we've ever seen, a little hotter.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
They're coming in a little hotter and I think that
maybe what we see in the breakdown in this warfare
time over our consciousness is necessary. And I try not
to think of it in the way that it's creating
greater division. It probably is, and hopefully, you know, hopefully
that it doesn't remain that way.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
Yeah, And I guess I like to think of it
as there's you know, you ever see it's it's I
kind of look at it as like armies of light
and armies of dark. Yeah, And I think that there
is a clear division most you know, there's always some
folks operating in the gray. And I don't mean just
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folks but things as well, operating in the gray. But
at some point, I think everything's going to have to
choose a side. And that's what I kind of feel coming.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Now, tell me about the armies of dark, because I
do think about this a lot. Like how if somebody
if you were to meet somebody at sitting at a
bar or coffee shop and you had this conversation and
you said armies of dark and they said, well, how
do I know to avoid that? What would you tell
them to look for?
Speaker 7 (48:39):
Right?
Speaker 4 (48:41):
You know what, that's a great question that I don't
have a great answer for right now either, And I
think I really have to go off well.
Speaker 5 (48:51):
And the word that I use is discernment.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
And I listen to my gut, and I listened to
my head, and I'll sit with it and I'll ask
sometimes too, you know, with things like this.
Speaker 5 (49:03):
Now, on that side of it, all my show or.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
My audience knows this. But I've also had I didn't
have a near death experience.
Speaker 5 (49:16):
I did.
Speaker 4 (49:19):
And I wasn't conscious. I wasn't I drowned, and I
don't remember anything. I didn't like walk up and you know,
towards a light or I didn't have any of these
things happened to me. But on the other side of it,
I woke up and realized that now I something was
different about my vision.
Speaker 5 (49:40):
And I could see people's.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
Like auras, or I could see light around them, and
that light was different colors sometimes and trying to learn
what that meant. Sometimes people are dark and that's a
telltale sign. So I kind of have a I look
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at it as a superpower. It is, but I have
to see them directly. I can't even like have to
take my glasses off that kind of thing. I can't
see them through a screen it's got to be in person, right,
so you know, truly, I'd say dark characters are dark
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literally to my eyes. I've even had some things that
are have no aura, so that makes it even spookier,
scarier to me.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
So yeah, like dark souls soulless.
Speaker 4 (50:42):
Yeah, or or maybe there's something attached to them that
shouldn't be you know, whether that's possession or oppression or whatever,
but there's something manipulating.
Speaker 5 (50:55):
So you're a seer, I guess you could say that.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Yeah, I think that you probably just answered that question,
which is in order to discern what's part of kind
of the dark forces, you have to know how your
body receives information because there's a lot of ways, right,
and and they're also if we go back to just
intuition like that, there's a feeling.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
Oh yeah, and I think most people have that ability, huh.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
But the thing is is we are conditioned to be
more polite than we are to step away from the dark.
You know, I can I can tell you lots of
situations as a woman, and any woman that has lived
for a number of years, you know, we get exposed
to a lot of things that are uncomfortable to us.
Most of our lives. But we're taught to be polite,
Like we're taught to be polite and not to be rude.
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And when you feel something dark or something weird, it's
it requires you to step away and just say no,
thank you, And that takes courage. So having it's not
just knowing when something's dark, especially if it's a group
of individuals or a human that's going to have impact
on your life, because that darkness can it can leak
(52:04):
in absolutely.
Speaker 5 (52:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
I'm the father of four daughters.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Oh my, so we could talk for a long time
about this thing.
Speaker 5 (52:13):
Some things teaching me a lesson?
Speaker 2 (52:15):
Yeah, well, and I can tell you, working with as
many women as I have doing self defense, that we
need to teach our children to not worry about being
polite as much as we do, to worry about listening
to what your body tells you. If something doesn't feel
good in any situation, you just get the f out
of there, period. Locate relationship, person, friendship, classroom, job like
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building anything. And that to me is that's a skill,
right to learn to listen to yourself and we need
to give permission to it. And I feel like that's
part of why I do what I do. So It's
like we just come to the crux of why it
matters so much for me to do the work I
do to help people find what their spiritual gifts are
to turn them on. Whether or not you practice witchcraft
(53:02):
doesn't matter to me. But being so sovereign and in
touch with yourself and your body, it's the way forward.
Speaker 5 (53:10):
Yeah. I agree.
Speaker 4 (53:12):
So this obviously, this podcast is called broadcasting seeds. So
plant the seed. This is one of the things I
ask everybody to do is go ahead and plant something
that you think is very important and broadcast that to
the yes to that.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
I know what it is, and I thought about this
before we connected today, and that's detox from the addiction
to your phone. You most importantly detalks from it. I
teach it in all my books and in all my classes.
I don't think that people even realize how addicted they
are to their devices. In fact, youth today have created
(53:53):
a term to go for a walk without your phone
and headphones, or to go do something without your phone
is called going naked it now and seriously, I mean
and I I people will they get twitchy, like if
if you don't have your phone with you for three
hours on a Saturday afternoon, people are like like, they're
like you could see it. Their bodies are like going
(54:14):
through like withdrawals. It's it's the it's the way that
you are most controlled right now. And so it's really
important and here and I'll give steps to practice it.
So start spending, you know, a couple of hours a
day with your notifications silence. Start there, do that for
you know, maybe maybe you pick a period of time
of one hour a day where your notifications are silenced.
(54:38):
The second week, when your notifications are silence, put your
phone in the other room. So the habit of grabbing it,
grabbing it, grabbing it, grabbing it stops. Right, So week two,
that one hour of time with notifications off, put your
phone in the other room, and just witness how many
times do you reach for your phone right and all
of a sudden you feel it right at work and
(54:58):
at home or when your grocery shop. And then from there,
start practicing leaving your phone behind whenever you can, walks
through the grocery stores, go back to making a handwritten
list if you need to, right like, go for a
walk without your phone. Start practicing, and eventually the way
it in my book I go through. There's a whole
ritual for this, because you are going to realize you
(55:20):
have an addiction. But the goal is to lead up
to one full day every month without your phone, full day, morning, noon,
and night. And you have to work into it, just
like you would detox from a drug. You have to
move slowly and practice it, you know, Like I have
rules in my house that no notification's on in my home. Ever,
so when my children come, when guests come, I have,
(55:40):
you know, I have. I live in a place where
people like to visit, so I have a lot of
I host a lot, and I have retreats, and there's
no notifications in my house. Like my house doesn't ding
alert or being ever. No, And it doesn't mean we
don't all check our phones a lot, it's just we're
not alerted to like, take control back of your attention,
(56:00):
take control back of your ability to go deep in
your mind and deep in your body. Because I promise
you that if your inclination when you have five spare
minutes while you're cooking chicken on the stove, if your
inclination is going to the stove, you have going to
your phone. You have missed that five minutes of connection
to your body, to your wisdom, to your spiritual gifts.
(56:21):
And so that's the seed I'm going to give. And
I could talk about it all day long, but it's
by far the most popular podcast I've ever recorded is
How I Went like a notification free life, How I
built a notification free life. And that's the seed is
I like it detox from the addiction to your phone.
Speaker 4 (56:40):
So what's really cool is one of the things that
they've started doing in schools around the nation is they
have to lock up their phones during school. So that
was one thing that happened in our entire school district
where we live, and my wife works at the school.
Now what she's a explained to me, and I've seen
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because I still have a daughter that goes to that
school as well, there's like fighting is down.
Speaker 5 (57:09):
There's just like all these behaviors.
Speaker 4 (57:11):
That have been like rampant for a long time are
all on the down because they don't have.
Speaker 3 (57:18):
It.
Speaker 5 (57:19):
Yeah, it's it's wild.
Speaker 4 (57:21):
And even if they're on their phone the rest of
the day, yeah, because they go they have to go
six seven hours with.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
No fune beautiful. I love it so much.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
It's that even the energy around the campus is different.
It's so amazing.
Speaker 2 (57:36):
So I will I will preach it as long as
I am alive here in this lifetime and maybe from
the afterworld, even maybe when I'm back to spirit form
and I'm visiting all my people, I'm gonna like drop
their I'm going to push their phones into like water glasses,
you know, like I'm gonna gonna hold this this this tight.
Speaker 4 (57:54):
So tell the audience again where we can find you.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
Yes, Moon Temple School dot is my mystery school site,
and I have lots of different classes, whether it's developing
your spiritual gifts or wanting to learn more about how
to you know, bring a witchcraft practice into your life,
or even how to walk a spiritual path. That's where
that can be found. Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, all the places.
(58:19):
Just search my first name. And there's unfortunately a lot
of fake accounts in my name, so just make sure
you're looking for the first one I know it's and
it's t A h V E R L e E.
And then my forthcoming book series comes out in the
middle of July next year, and so you can go
to Taverley dot com and sign up for the waitlist.
Speaker 5 (58:38):
Amazing. Yeah, it's been a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
Thank you, Thank you for coming on, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 9 (58:58):
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we've seen. There's a hutch in the breeding like it's
calling your name. Whispers of the moonlight, never speak the same.
Speaker 8 (59:30):
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Speaker 10 (01:00:25):
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in the bad of your mind.
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see between the world that is.
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And what's meant to be?
Speaker 8 (01:00:50):
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Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
When the spirit starts.
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The deep and the way of time.
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Welcome everybody to another episode of Broadcasting Seeds. Our guests tonight,
I've got Taverlee is angling.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Good enough.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
And I'd like her to introduce herself, tell us what
she who she is, what she does and where we
can find her wonderful.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, first of all, thank you Bennett for having me,
and it's really great to be introduced with your deep voice.
You have such a you have such a radio voice.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
I'm thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
That's that's delightful. Yes, my name is Taverley and I'm
a hyph priestess, a practicing which the founder of the
Moon Temple Mystery School, author of a series of forthcoming
books that will begin releasing next year. And also I'm
a student of life. I do a lot of work
in the spiritual realm, and you, I also consider myself
(02:01):
to be a seeker of always learning new things because
I believe that the more we grow and the more
we develop, the more we realize we don't know. And
so you know, yes, yes, I teach and talk about
these topics a lot. And I also love the idea
that the more I know, the more I don't know.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I always say that on this show is the bottom
line comes down, does we don't know anything? It we
really done? And as soon as you start thinking you do.
That's usually on your show Now it's not.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Nope.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
So one of the things I've so you you describe
yourself as a priestess in the wild. Yeah, so what
does what does that mean? And when did this what
I guess wildness, Yeah, first awakening you Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And really great question. And I know you also asked
me where people can find me, so before I answer question,
I'll add that in. You can pretty much type my
first name into any social media platform and find me
because I have such a unique name. So if you
just look for taver Lee, you'll find me. Or you
can go to Moon Temple School dot com or even
taver Lee dot com, which is my future author site.
(03:22):
So there's you can you know, there's lots of ways
to find out. I'll put everything in the show notes,
do Yeah, great, thanks, And so your question about wildness,
I mean, in the word priestess, it's a really fascinating
thing to imagine how much of our lives we go
through living in the box of what we're told that
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we should be, or or what we're told will actually
make us happy. Many of us weren't. I mean, I
wasn't necessarily told who I should be growing up. You know,
marketing tells us that, right, the collective tells us that,
schools tell you that, books tell you that. But in
my family, you know, there wasn't some sort of dictated
path on who I should become. But I was raised,
(04:05):
you know, like you, like many of us, with the
idea of this particular path is what you should take
to be happy, right, like, this will bring fulfillment. This,
you know, the right house, the right car, the right kids,
the right job, right the right university certificate, like, all
of these things are the path you should take. And
I did all of those things, and all the way
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along the path, I had this nagging question inside me,
which was, you know, is this all there is? Like?
Is this all there is? And I knew that question
existed in me, and many of us know that question
exists in us. And for me, the bigger part of
what cracked that open is when I started experiencing a
(04:49):
lot of difficulties in life. You know, the marriage I
thought I was supposed to have that would lead to this,
you know, some exalted state of perfection of you know,
a successful woman and mother fell apart. And when that happened,
I started really asking deeper questions. And then I actually
continued on in that box. I said, Okay, well then
you move on, right, you move on, You find another
(05:13):
another way to relate to a human and create a
life together. And that question never left and it wasn't
until for me going through some different health challenges. You know,
I've had twelve major surgeries, and if you could see this,
you'll see, like I have a lot of different tattoos
and there's a series of birds on my left shoulder
(05:33):
that go around my shoulder blade and they all represent
a major surgery that I have survived. And there was
one particular time when you know, the precariousness of my health,
I was having a post surgical complication, and there was
a time that I thought, you know, like it this
could be it, like this could this really could be it?
(05:54):
And I was okay, you know, I because I had
been through so much change and turmoil all through the
course of my life, just like everyone else. I don't
want I mean, my challenges were big challenges for me,
but we all have challenges. And when I got to
that place and I realized, wow, I've survived a lot,
I've done a lot, I've been courageous, I've tried new things.
(06:16):
I've raised my children who were teenagers at the time, Like, Okay,
if this is it, I mean, maybe I did do
what I was meant to be here for. And I
was really at peace with that and then of course
I had to have an additional surgery. The complications I
had was following having a lump removed from my breast
and that became a full body infection that went into
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my lymph system. And when they went in too like
do the final surgery to clear that issue, and I
woke up the next day, I'm like, oh, okay, this
is interesting. I didn't have a near death experience when
I was under anesthetic during that time, but I I
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was taken to the edge of what I call like
a cliff, and I can still today see it clear
as Dave. Even though I was under general anesthetic, I
could see what the like the cliff on the other side,
let's say. So I didn't go there, but I saw it.
And when I woke up the next day, that question
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of is this all there is? Just blew me open
because to me, I realized, oh, if that would have
been it and it wasn't, then every day matters, right,
then every day matters? And so then I actually really
just started asking that question is this all there is?
And that led me down paths to exploring a lot
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about myself that had always been in my life, Like
I'm a seer, that's just how my own spiritual gifts work.
And I started to explore, like why me and what
is what does this mean? Because I knew these things
were true about me, but I didn't necessarily have a
place to talk about it. So I started talking about
all these things that felt very mysterious to me. And
(08:03):
I feel like what happens is when you when you
seek answers to the unanswerable question you, It's like the
universe or God or the Goddess like drops bread crumbs
to take you down a path to learn. So I
was I'm still bread crumbed, you know, still get I
still get more information. And that led to me exploring
(08:25):
the idea of sovereignty. And when I really started exploring sovereignty,
then I started meeting other spiritual practitioners. I started meeting
witches and oracles and shawmans, and I started studying and training,
and then I initiated into one path, and then I
initiated into another path. And then I kept studying and
I kept learning, and I kept practicing, and I feel
(08:48):
like I just I just keep finding deeper layers of
this mystery of it all, which to me is the
unanswerable question and that's what I mean by priestess of
the why is I I'm willing to be wild in
my beliefs. I'm willing to be wild like nature because
I know that everything is a cycle and this is
just a part of my cycle of my soul.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Yeah, good answer, it was long.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I'm like, yeah, no, no, this is also this is
your interview, like it's for you to talk, not not
for my audience.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
To hear me.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
They want to hear you, so thank you. So another
thing looking you know, I don't I did some research
for this interview, and one of the things that I
see is the term the word which which still it
still sparks controversy, right and and curiosity. So with that,
(09:47):
what does that word mean to you? But I also
want to know what doesn't it mean?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
M Those are two very good questions I find myself
over the last couple of years of the in the
large of interviews I've done. And you know, I talk
a lot on social media. I do a lot of
videos that I would actually tell you that that definition
to me personally changes daily because and so when I
try to put it into a couple of sentences, it
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can become hard. But and I can't say that I
speak for everybody, right like the idea, the definition of
which is so different for everyone, But for me most
of the time, it means someone that understands that we
have access to more than just the human world, and
we can utilize that energy to create change, and that,
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to me is the most simplest form. I could say,
you know, a witch is someone that cast spells. I
could say a witch is someone who knows how to
tap into the universal flow of energy that divines all things.
I could say a witch is someone who understands divinity
in everything. I could also say that not all witches
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are psychics. Not all psychics are witches. Not all whiches
cast spells. Not all witches hex like all these different
areas on how it fits, and the only way I
know how to describe it is with all things that
involve any type of human there is a spectrum about
what they looks like. I do realize that one thing
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that is unique about me is that I I bridge
spirituality in witchcraft. I sit pretty strongly in the middle
of the two, and I know that there are a
lot in my own communities, there are a lot of
practicing witches that don't really bring spirituality into it. And
you know, I also have a lot of people that
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are walking a very powerful spiritual path in their life
and they would never identify as a witch. And it's
almost like these two questions come up as you know,
from a spirituality perspective, you know, how do you surrender
and look for the signs right the breadcrumbs and follow divinity?
Like how do you how do you just be so
aligned in your frequency that you are guided in your path?
(12:04):
Like that's kind of you know, like the spiritual side
and the witchcraft side is, well, I desire a specific path,
so I'm going to put things in place to guide
it or co create it, you know, And they kind
of sometimes can sit in different sides of the pendulum. Really,
And I get asked this question all the time, like
do you teach spirituality or do you teach witchcraft? And
(12:25):
I'm like both because to me, they're both. They're both
diff different avenues towards the same goal. It's whether or
not you choose to be an active participant, which you
already are through your beliefs, through your energy, You're already
creating all the time, But whether or not you consciously
want to change that to me is more the path
of a witch.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Gotcha?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
So do you believe that it's something you're born with
or something anyone can learn to embody?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I think anybody can learn to embody. I think it's
just a label right at the end of the day. Also,
so you know, I do think that it's a privilege
and where I live to be able to identify as
a practicing witch. You know, in some parts of the world,
people will still be humans, will still be persecuted and
killed for identifying with that title or doing anything that
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is deemed as witchcraft. I think it's a privilege to
identify as a witch. I and for me really to
reclaim that word meant I'm reclaiming sovereignty over my own path.
That that box. I know that I've been, you know,
striving for however many years of my life to fit into.
You know, I flipped my middle finger to that box
when I reclaimed the word witch. And I know that
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it I know that it triggers a lot of people.
But most of the time, if people ask me questions
and we talk deeply about it, they're like, oh, well,
that makes sense, because you know it's you know, Hollywood
and the persecution of really women has created that bad
taste in our mouths, and and and kind of it
it should in the sense that that word has been
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use to persecute women for a really long time.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
A really long time.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, yeah, what inspired you to create Moon Temple mystery School?
And like, in what kind of transformation do you see
most often in your students? I guess that's two questions,
but let's start.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
With the first.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, opening a.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
I remember, it's no small undertaking.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
It's no small undertaking. I remember the moment that I
decided that this was a path that I was going
to lead, and it happened in combination with walking through
other mystery schools and experiencing more mistreatment of people that
weren't perfect, that didn't fit the perfect scenario of that
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mystery school's ideology of how somebody should practice that craft. Now,
I I believe that when you enter any type of
initiate path, specifically that you're agreeing to learn it that
way while you're in that path, and then what you
do with it after is you know, up to you.
But I do believe that when you when you choose,
especially if there's you know, a commitment on your part.
(15:14):
If you're committing to learn something specifically, you should go
all in and learn it. And I still teach that way,
and you know, the teachers I had also taught that way.
But if that if that comes with this idea that
you could be too in touch with your body, that
you could be too quiet when it comes to sharing,
that you could have some sort of you know, learning
(15:36):
disability and learn differently, or some type of mental health
issue that wouldn't allow you to fit that box. To me,
that's the same dogma that we're trying to avoid. And
unfortunately I saw it and I felt I felt like
the the idea that someone's imperfection should be a gate
keeping exercise to the mysteries as I've learned them didn't
(16:01):
sit well with me. So I wanted to open something
where inclusivity was possible that I you know, I do
expect people when you it's only on you know, the
initiate path, to come in prepared to learn and do
it this way and then take what resonates and leave
the rest and that anybody's anybody can walk like you
don't have to you know, you can walk the path.
(16:21):
You don't have to have a lineage. You don't have
to have a certain set of beliefs. You know, if
you have an open heart and this interest you, then
you're welcome here. And I know that that isn't how
modern day mystery schools are run today. Maybe if you,
I know, if you, but there's still you know, this
idea that it's only for the select few is dogma
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that I wasn't willing to participate in. And that's really
what led me to opening the Mystery School. And it
was a it was a serious undertaking. I had just
launched my first business, so this was going to be
my second business. And I did one of the largest
ceremonial conductions that I've ever done just before I opened
(17:04):
the Mystery School and it's called a headless Rite, and
I performed this ceremony to allow and for people that
don't know what that means, it's a ceremony where you're
speaking a lot of different language words, you're invoking a
lot of different elemental leaders, You're bringing in a lot
of ancestors of the path you know to support you,
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and physically you're putting your head below your heart so
you know you're you're going through a type of spiritual death,
so something new can be born. And when I when
I did that, I knew that I was going to
be held to a I was willing to be held
to a higher standard of my own values and my
own beliefs in order to be a temple keeper for
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the mysteries and initiate others. And I accepted that and
that's so. Yeah, it was. It was significant, and it
was one of the most amazing things that I've ever
chosen to do.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Yeah, So what's your your view on Like, I guess
I'll call it shadow work? Like, can people dive too deep?
Or is darkness just another teacher?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well, darkness is definitely another teacher.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Yeah, obviously. Yeah, I mean, but like you know, yeah,
people dive too deep. Oh look, let's look at that
in two ways.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I think a lot of people ask that question, wondering
if you go too deep in the shadows, can you
enter the demonic world? Like, that's sometimes the way that
that's asked. So I'll set that aside and come back
to that. If we just look at shadow work kind
of as it's known in the mainstream way, it's really
just exploring your traumas, your triggers, your wounds like to heal.
(18:54):
If if you're on an ongoing journey to heal and
at last thirty years and you never feel like you've
heal enough to actually live life, then you've gone too deep.
You know, there's there's a place for shadow work, and
I think it comes up a lot right where we
we are re triggered at new levels every time we
grow myself, myself included, I can I can even give
you an example of how I I even bump up
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against my shadows that I healed years ago that kind
of resurface in a new way, and that is in
the publication of my forthcoming books. You know, there's there's
a there's a new level of me, of vulnerability being
explored when I am writing the books that I'm writing,
because I share very personal stories in these books about magic,
and it's called you know, the series is called Sacred Magic.
(19:38):
And there's four of them by direction. So the first
one is the North, the second the East, the third
the South, and you know, the fourth the West. And
I explore I share a lot of very personal, vulnerable
parts of my path and I you know, I definitely
get triggered a little at the idea of how exposed
I am, like the idea of being seen in this
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way because you know, these little voices in my head.
You know, that's like, oh, that friend I had when
I was a senior in high school, how are they
going to feel about me sharing all these parts of me?
Speaker 5 (20:07):
They're going to judge me.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And so that shadow that I have, the fear of
being seen, which is part of my own witch wounding,
it has resurfaced, and I feel like we clear shadows
and they get retriggered, and then you know, hopefully we
learn the tools on how to actually address the shadows
and heal them over and over again, not to stay
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in them.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
To me, the idea of doing shadow work is to heal,
not to stay in the shadows. Like we're meant to
go in into our shadows to become better humans, you know,
better in whatever belief system or practices we have to
be better, and then you know, set them aside until
it resurfaces again and hopefully learn how to how to
heal yourself better as you go along. More tools, right,
(20:50):
more tools in your toolbox. Now the demonic side, So
let's talk about that. I do think that there is
a lot of misconceptions that when you are doing under
world or shadow work, or I consider myself a shadow walker,
meaning I walk into the very dark places in people's
lives very often alongside them because I'm comfortable holding that
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space to help show them where the light can be found.
And a lot of people feel super uncomfortable with the
idea of underworld or shadow world. And I will say that,
like with all things that include humans, there's darkness in
every area of our existence, the spiritual realm, the mental plane,
physical plane. Darkness is here. We all have experienced darkness.
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And you know bad people, you know bad spirits, and
so can can can doing a lot of shadow work
lead you to dark places that could open you up
to demonic experiences, maybe because if you get too caught
up in the shadows, you're allowing cracks in your energy field,
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and those cracks can allow you know, dark energy inside
of you. And I don't know your what your experience
is with this, but I know I have moved a
lot of entities out of humans, and those entities are
not bad spirits that have entered the humans. They are
dark balls of negative unprocessed trauma right and unprocessed pain
(22:20):
that lives inside of somebody's body so much that it
becomes its own sentient thing. So so yeah, that's a lot,
I'll let you.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Yeah, no, no, no, I no, I was just but this
is exactly where I wanted this to go, because it's
one of those things where people hear the term shadow
work and they think immediately, you know, demonic or something
along those lines, where it's actually more like, you know,
everyone has a light side and the dark side, and so.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, and if you think of if you think of
shadow work as just going into the parts of you
that you hide from the world exactly, or the parts
of you that you you don't even realize you still carry.
Right Like a lot of times, just even embarking on
any type of shadow work, you realize that you hold
so much subconsciously in your initial programming that it still
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just lives inside your body like an operating system, and
you don't even know that it's there. Shadow Work is beautiful,
and the way that it unearths these things that you
think do you don't even realize drives your day to
day life. And when you heal those parts of your
or you even just bring a little light to it, right,
I don't know who originally said this, but we I've
(23:36):
seen it and heard it all over social media. And
that's that you're not standing in the light if you
don't have a shadow.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Yeah, true story.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
So the difference, how do you how do you think
you can tell the difference between like intuition guiding us
or trauma talking to us.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I really love the way you worded that, because that's
not usually the way that I'm asked that question. It's
inside your body, right, and knowing how your body feels,
like what is a yes in your body? What is
a no in your body? What is a trauma response
in your body? You have to know yourself deeply enough
(24:21):
to be able to discern between the lens of fear, pain,
and trauma and the lens of guidance. So, for example,
in former parts of my life, I have been a
Krobmagon instructor, so I've spent a lot of years teaching
self defense, and I have interacted with a lot of
people who have experienced violence. And once you have experienced
(24:44):
something violent, you carry a foggy lens of fear right
that every time you walk around a corner or go
down a dark alley at night that something could recreate
that situation. And one of the most powerful ways to
learn self defense is to have situational awareness. Like we
teach people to trust what you feel when something feels off,
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trust that it is. But what happens if you have
trauma around physical violence and everything every corner you turn,
you know, creates that feeling of intuition that something bad
is going to happen. And so that's an extreme case,
but it's actually a really good study of how intuition
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and you know, trauma kind of come together. In most cases.
When you learn how to heal where that first issue
came from and recognize that you will probably carry a
skewed lens in that area, then it allows you to
maybe add a second layer of verification in right. And
(25:48):
that's I teach a lot of people to because it's
not usually in all areas of our life. So let's
go back to that situation. If someone has experienced something
physically violent and they carry the a skewed lens around
that intuitive hit when they're outside, they likely don't have
that lens when it comes to what they should have
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for dinner, or what business projects to go to, or
what job they should take next like that lens is
probably a little more clear in another area of their
life when you know where your lens is a little foggy.
It just requires a little more time to think it through,
like a little more time to ask yourself, like and
I teach you with a hand on your heart and
a hand on your belly to ask and really connect
(26:31):
to your body and say, is this my intuition telling
me this? Or am I seeing it through the lens
of something else? And if we if you learn to
trust what that first thing that comes when you're listening
to your body, then it usually leads you the right way.
Even if your mind is saying but, but, but but
but you know your body is going to say something different.
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And it's really just important to know how to listen
to your bodies. Yeses, and your bodies knows ye understand.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I'm going to lighten it up a little bit. So
you've seen my podcast and what we talked about. So
one of the things I always ask people is do
you have any I guess you would call it supernatural
type experiences or things were like you go out in
(27:23):
the woods and you've seen or had an experience with
a cryptid or something like that, anything that pops into
your head that I.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Have so many, Okay, awesome, Okay, this will be fun. Okay,
So I'll tell you a couple of really great ones,
and these I'll start with some small ones. So I
sat on a deck a couple of years ago on
the island that I live on now, before I had
lived here, I was just visiting, and I was asking
this question of what it would be like to live here, right,
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because I live on a tiny little island out in
the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, and I was asking
this question. Was the middle of the day, the sun
is shining, you know. I had a bikini top on,
and I'm enjoying this beautiful backyard. And I noticed movement
to the right, and I looked over to this field
of gnarled oak trees and tall grasses, and there was
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a pond near there, and a group of energetic beings
that almost seemed to be outlined in white like chalk.
Maybe I'm walked through, and they were physically moving without moving,
as spiritual beings do. They moved across the fields and
(28:38):
stopped right in front of me, and I proceeded to
spend probably about ten minutes communicating with these spirits, and
some of them were super short. It was quite interesting
to me, and I'm I'm used to communicating with spirits regularly.
It's a normal part of my practice, but I don't
necessarily see them physically appear. But I'm really open minded
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to periods of time when the veil is lowered, so
I don't have a I don't get a fear trigger,
which I think sometimes stops a lot of people from
experiencing that. Right, So I allowed it to happen, and
I asked some questions and I received some information. And
you know, they in the way that spirits do you know,
they kind of telepathically give you information while you're seeing
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this like holographic thing in front of you. And I know,
I know, it's so bizarre, and yet I can tell
you in my line of work, this happens to people
all the time. They just don't have a place to
talk about it. This is a normal thing. And I
think that there was a Gallup study done during the
COVID years that asked how many people have experienced some
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type of spirit communication in their life, and it's like
seventy five percent a lot. It's a lot. So I
know that we think it's weird to talk about it,
but really people are like, oh yeah, I've experienced that
something like that. But they communicated to me, they give
me information for like ten minutes. They said this is
what you should expect, this is what we want, this
is what you do, and they were gone. I thought, Okay,
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that was quite interesting and again just a normal walk
in the life for me. So that was a super
one that I like. And I was just recently thinking
about that. Because I now live on these lands where
that happened, I can share some really great stories too.
There's a spiritual coaching client that I have that I
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work with regularly, and I remember one of our very
first sessions. We were on zoom kind of you know,
on a screen like you and I are, and behind
her while she's on the screen, I slowly watched her
door shut like shut go from open, and I watched
it and I could see her watching it in the screen,
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and we both paused and we just watched the door
close and I said to her, you know, you have
a visitor, and she's like, oh, yeah, that that spirits
here off times that happens. And these are the stories
that I love where regular spirit interaction becomes normal. Now
some of the wilder ones. I have witnessed a particular
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type of spirit enter into a human's body and change
the body's complete composition, including voice cadence. And by the way,
this human opened for it like this was a this
was chosen because we are always in control, right, so
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this was a chosen thing. And it was really interesting
because what happened when that spirit left that human body
is that human had a such a wake up to
what is possible just from that one shifted experience. Now
she didn't do that again, it wasn't her preference. It
was discombobulating for her. But what happened is her spiritual gifts,
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like that dial got turned up so loud to where
she literally could start to see the crystalline grid on
the planet. She saw color like energy appear in colors.
So I thought that that was a super And these
are all winds, right, I'm sharing your stories that were winds,
winds or let's just say, positive experiences. Yeah, that's amazing,
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kind of cryptic. The more interesting side of things. I'll
tell you a really great story about me if you
would like. And this isn't cryptic, but it is pretty wild. Yeah,
the very first headless rite that I did, so I
told you about the one I did for Mystery School.
That was my second. The first time I did that ceremony.
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I had rented these houses that are called earth ships
in New Mexico, like half buried in the earth and
then one side is like all windows. So I knew
I was going to do this big ritual. It's the
first time I'd done something like this. I was going
to do it by myself. I rented this house and
it's a longer story how I got to that. That
part's not for today, but I knew this was going
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to happen. It was months in the planning. I get there,
you know, the day of the ritual, I did a
ritual cleanse and I had on this little sheer kind
of robe after because it's like, you know, thirteen acres
of private land, and I go outside to light the
fire for you know, preparation of the ritual, and both
of the doors slammed shut and locked, so I'm basically
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naked outside and there's there's nothing and earthships are this
big thick glass, right, because they're like solar powered.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
So it's not like You're not like Chimmy in the window.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
And I tried to break a window. I tried to
put a rock through the window. I tried to push
a barbie. I was willing to pay for anything to
get back into the house. And my truck was unlocked,
but there was nothing in it that I could use.
But what I did find was my combat boots were
left there because it was muddy when I was unloading
my truck, so my combat boots were outside. So I
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strapped on knee high combat boots pretty much naked, and
had to go on a quest to get help.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
Oh No, And many many, many, many many minutes and
miles of walking later, I found myself on this dirt road.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You know, the sun had gone down by now. I'm
having multiple panic attacks, like I had already opened ritual
space right like I was. I was already in an
altered state, and so I kept just thinking like why
is it? Like how am I not meant to do
this ritual? Like this is this a no sign? Like
what is happening? And I'm nervous and I'm sweaty, and
I'm naked and I have combat boots on and I'm
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walking down this dirt road trying to get to another
house because I had already gone to a few and
there were no people there. And I I'm walking on
this dirt road and I hear this noise behind me
and I'm like, oh, holy God, is it's a vehicle.
And I felt a mixture of relief that I'm going
to be helped and a mixture of nervousness because holy
goad zooks, I'm like, not clothed, looking wild, late night crazy,
(35:01):
And sure enough it was this young man pulled up
in a construction truck next to me where I turned
my head and his window was rolled down and his
mouth was like dropped wide open, and he's like, didn't
say a word, and I'm like, uh, can you help me?
I've locked myself out of house. And I had the
nervous babble. I nervous babbled a lot. Well, he helped me.
I ended up having to get in his truck and
(35:22):
go for a drive because there was no cell phone signal,
and we got help. And this whole story happens, okay,
And I mean I've literally died a thousand times in
this of embarrassment. By the time I got back into
the house and his name was Gunner, and somewhere in
my you know, hour of nervous babbling trying to get
me back into the house, I must have somewhere along
the lines mentioned that I had run because he kept
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asking like what are you doing outside of the house
like that, you know, like what's happening? And I, you know,
I'm private in my practices and situations like that. But
when he went to let me back in the house,
we had to go. He was able to dig into
the ground, found where spare key would dug into the ground,
and found the key let me in the back door. Well,
what he sees through the window is the stainless steel
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table surrounded by candles, looking like there's going to be
some sort of serious sacrifice. But really that was dexter
I'm sure, But what I mean that table was actually
where I was going to paint after. You know, I'm
an artist, so I paint after. But it didn't look
like that. So I sent him on his way, and
sure enough, ten minutes later, I hear this knock, knock,
knock on the door, and Gunner had returned and said,
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so you have rum, And I'm like, oh, gosh, okay, okay, Okay,
So here I am trying to decide am I going
to complete this ritual or am I going to be
tempted by this? And by the way, did I mention
I was single at the time, and he was super hot,
you know, like super hot, So I mean he's already
seen all my body parts by then. And I really
had to like sit with it for a minute, and
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I decided to complete the ritual. And I realized somewhere
along the way that that whole quest, that whole journey
was part of the ritual, like it was it was
all orchestrated as part of the ritual, because you know,
the headless ride is to die so you can be reborn. Well,
I literally died a thousand times of embarrassment, like I
you know, I probably sweat ten pounds of nervousness off
(37:10):
me and that so okay, so this is enough of
a wild story, right, like this is this is crazy. Well,
several months later, I was writing my first book, which
I haven't published. It is my I was writing my memoir,
and I could feel this every time I would write,
every time I was in a writing period, like this
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gigantic red winged bird was hovering over me, and I
almost would look up, like to my ceiling to see
if there was something there, because I could feel this
presence and it kind of changed and it looked like
an animal face, and then it kind of looked like
a bird, and then it was black, and then it
was red, and it was definitely a darker energy. And
(37:50):
I worked hard trying to communicate with it to understand,
like what this is. And because it was only happening
while I was writing, I didn't know. I just, you know,
sometimes we just don't always know, and sometimes it takes
time to figure things out. So I booked a reading
with a man in Colorado who is really comfortable doing
readings with darker energies, and I, you know, I explained
(38:15):
to him what I was writing. I explained to him
about this thing that's been hovering nearby, and we do
a little bit of shamanic work together and he stops
and he says, Okay, I got it. You have a
spirit guide that is a bear sark. And I say,
what's a bear sark? And he goes into the mythology
of Odin right in Odin's army that you know, men
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would turn into bear sarks in before battle you know,
in order to be unkillable, which is where the word
berserk comes from, you know, And they just become shapeshifters
and they're they're super powerful and the only way for
them to shape shift from a bear sark back to
a human is to throw hot coals at them or
the side of a naked woman. And I already to
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get like real tingly like when he said that, and
my voice goes like to n just hire and I say,
does my bear sark guide have a name? And he said, yeah,
his name is Ghannar.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Ghannar.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I I mean I if, I mean, if you've ever
if you've ever ever seen like a witch melt like
in shock, and I do a lot of shocking things,
so for me to be so shocked, like my my
head hits the desk, I start to cry. I'm laughing
and I'm crying. And I finally tell him the story
of what had occurred months before, which I didn't know
they were. They were so far apart in my own life,
(39:35):
I didn't put the two and two together. And he said, oh, yeah,
your your guide gnar. You know, at the sight of
you naked, picked you up on the side of the
road and he said to me, did you ever talk
to him after? And I said no, he gave me
his number, but you know, that was a pretty wild thing.
He's like, let's let's call it. I'm like, oh, my goodness, gracious, here,
I am like right back in my thousand Deaths of nervousness.
(39:57):
And I pull out my phone while we're right there,
and I call his number, and of course it's not
in service. So it was this wild, wild experience. And yeah,
yeah it was. And there's so many things that had
to happen inside of me and my comfort to be
uncomfortable in the spiritual realm for that to happen.
Speaker 8 (40:20):
That.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah, that's one of my favorite stories.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Yeah, that's pretty neat.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, wild. I do write about it in my book,
so you know, if anyone ever buys my book, you're
gonna you're gonna see my my shock at it. And
the person who did the reading for me when he
when he saw the whole experience, he had this like deep,
I want to call it like a Santa Claus or
like a you know, like a nourse. He's like a
nourse God laugh. So his laughter I think it reverberated
(40:48):
through lifetimes. When he heard the story and he kind
of did a bow to Ghannara and said, well done
and taking care of your woman. And I'm like, I
don't know how I feel about any of this.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
It's really it's really funny.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
It's wild.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
It definitely is. Do you kind of, with that being said,
do you believe that, I guess in this time that
we're in now right a heightened spiritual conflict or is
that more of a perception that's part of an awakening
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process itself.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Hm hmm, Okay, let me let me switch kind of
energies to talk about that. I mean, yes, I do.
I think spiritual warfare is happening right now at a
at a very serious scale. And I believe that the
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more that we do work on ourselves to keep our
frequency at a certain level in openness and exploration and
connection to divinity, and I feel like one awakened human squashes,
you know, like three hundred of the darker side of
spirituality that is kind of seeping in. Yes, I actually
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know it to be true. I know spiritual warfare is true, right.
I know it's real right now, and I'm thinking about
how deep we can go into the discussion. But this
spiritual warfare that's happening right now is for our consciousness, okay, right,
it's to take away you know, sovereignty and freedom, which
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requires you to have a level of consciousness about yourself
and the world at large, because you are only truly
free when you realize it's only you that's going to
be able to rescue you and understand the cycle of
your soul and connect it to nature. I mean, true
freedom comes when you strip away all the material you know,
things and addictions and you know, distractions. I mean that
(43:01):
part over there is true freedom, and everything is working
against humans living in that space right now, and with
that comes a lot of dark A lot of darkness
is being fired at people and they're swallowing it without
realizing they're swallowing it.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. No, I tell.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Me what you think about that, because you talk to
a lot of people I do.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
I would agree there's definitely a spiritual warfare of some
sort going on. Whether it's yeah, I mean, and it's
obviously light and dark. I mean that's how you know,
I describe it at least, right, And there absolutely is,
and it's definitely a war for the mind, for consciousness
(43:44):
or you know, and this is why I talk about folks,
and I don't really talk about it on my episodes much,
but there's so many people that are just silent even inside.
They're just I don't like to say dead inside. They're
just like non player characters. They're nty seeds. I know,
we hear this phrase all the time. So it's like
(44:07):
I look at it as a way that they're being bombarded,
like you had said, with all of this, just to
keep them in their shell, keep them down and quiet.
So I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it. Actually, And then
you have other folk, folks that are awake, and I guess,
you know, I don't want to get into the verbiage
(44:28):
with that, but you know, there's people that are that
are present and actually in the fight, and then there's
people that I think have already shut down to the fight, right,
and our job is to wake those people up. Yes,
So that's kind of how I view it. By the
reason that my podcast it's called broadcasting seeds because that's
(44:52):
what I'm doing. I'm throwing seeds, broadcasting them to the world, right,
So just trying to wake one person enough, you know,
one person at a time.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
So that's that's my.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
I agree, and thank you for sharing that. I I
knew you felt that way, but I wanted to I
wanted you to verbalize it here because I do think
that in most instances, you know, non player characters are
probably not listening to this show, but their friend might be,
their friend might be, their partner might be, their neighbor
might be, and and then that conversation can happen. And
(45:27):
I do see it. It is possible to be so
awake that that energy itself impacts other people without you
having to even have the words, like, I do believe
that energy of a wackedness it just impacts how much
you live, how you live that that does create influence,
And there's lots of ways. I mean, you're doing it,
(45:47):
I'm doing it. I think that we're all here to
play different roles too, write like non player characters are
filling a role. Not really, I mean, we're all here
to play rules. And I tell people that non player
characters wake up when it's time to wake up.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
True, And.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Everybody's version of what a wake looks like is so
divided right now. And the trap that you see everyone
falling in is that if you don't wake up, this way,
you're now part of the wrong side of the war.
And if you don't wake up this way, you sit
on that side of the line. When the truth is
(46:30):
there are a thousand paths to divinity. So how do
we how do we look at that in a bigger scope?
It's hard, Yeah, And I do you know, I sit
on something called the Wisdom Keeper's Counsel, and it's a
whole bunch of indigenous leaders and spiritual leaders all over
the world. And you know, some of the work that
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this group has done together has you know, written books
that get commissioned by the United Nations. Like it's a
group of very wise people. And I consider myself to
still be very much a learner in these meetings, like
somebody learning, although we all share equally, and I do,
I do think that there is there is positive hope
that the breaking down we see now is part of
(47:15):
what's going to be rebuilt with higher levels of consciousness attached.
And part of part of that is because the children
that are born now, they're coming in, like their souls
are coming into human bodies a little more awake.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
That we've ever seen, a little hotter.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
They're coming in a little hotter and I think that
maybe what we see in the breakdown in this warfare
time over our consciousness is necessary. And I try not
to think of it in the way that it's creating
greater division. It probably is, and hopefully, you know, hopefully
that it doesn't remain that way.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
Yeah, And I guess I like to think of it
as there's you know, you ever see it's it's I
kind of look at it as like armies of light
and armies of dark. Yeah, And I think that there
is a clear division most you know, there's always some
folks operating in the gray. And I don't mean just
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folks but things as well, operating in the gray. But
at some point, I think everything's going to have to
choose a side. And that's what I kind of feel coming.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Now, tell me about the armies of dark, because I
do think about this a lot. Like how if somebody
if you were to meet somebody at sitting at a
bar or coffee shop and you had this conversation and
you said armies of dark and they said, well, how
do I know to avoid that? What would you tell
them to look for?
Speaker 7 (48:39):
Right?
Speaker 4 (48:41):
You know what, that's a great question that I don't
have a great answer for right now either, And I
think I really have to go off well.
Speaker 5 (48:51):
And the word that I use is discernment.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
And I listen to my gut, and I listened to
my head, and I'll sit with it and I'll ask
sometimes too, you know, with things like this.
Speaker 5 (49:03):
Now, on that side of it, all my show or.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
My audience knows this. But I've also had I didn't
have a near death experience.
Speaker 5 (49:16):
I did.
Speaker 4 (49:19):
And I wasn't conscious. I wasn't I drowned, and I
don't remember anything. I didn't like walk up and you know,
towards a light or I didn't have any of these
things happened to me. But on the other side of it,
I woke up and realized that now I something was
different about my vision.
Speaker 5 (49:40):
And I could see people's.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
Like auras, or I could see light around them, and
that light was different colors sometimes and trying to learn
what that meant. Sometimes people are dark and that's a
telltale sign. So I kind of have a I look
(50:03):
at it as a superpower. It is, but I have
to see them directly. I can't even like have to
take my glasses off that kind of thing. I can't
see them through a screen it's got to be in person, right,
so you know, truly, I'd say dark characters are dark
(50:25):
literally to my eyes. I've even had some things that
are have no aura, so that makes it even spookier,
scarier to me.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
So yeah, like dark souls soulless.
Speaker 4 (50:42):
Yeah, or or maybe there's something attached to them that
shouldn't be you know, whether that's possession or oppression or whatever,
but there's something manipulating.
Speaker 5 (50:55):
So you're a seer, I guess you could say that.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Yeah, I think that you probably just answered that question,
which is in order to discern what's part of kind
of the dark forces, you have to know how your
body receives information because there's a lot of ways, right,
and and they're also if we go back to just
intuition like that, there's a feeling.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
Oh yeah, and I think most people have that ability, huh.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
But the thing is is we are conditioned to be
more polite than we are to step away from the dark.
You know, I can I can tell you lots of
situations as a woman, and any woman that has lived
for a number of years, you know, we get exposed
to a lot of things that are uncomfortable to us.
Most of our lives. But we're taught to be polite,
Like we're taught to be polite and not to be rude.
(51:43):
And when you feel something dark or something weird, it's
it requires you to step away and just say no,
thank you, And that takes courage. So having it's not
just knowing when something's dark, especially if it's a group
of individuals or a human that's going to have impact
on your life, because that darkness can it can leak
(52:04):
in absolutely.
Speaker 5 (52:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
I'm the father of four daughters.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Oh my, so we could talk for a long time
about this thing.
Speaker 5 (52:13):
Some things teaching me a lesson?
Speaker 2 (52:15):
Yeah, well, and I can tell you, working with as
many women as I have doing self defense, that we
need to teach our children to not worry about being
polite as much as we do, to worry about listening
to what your body tells you. If something doesn't feel
good in any situation, you just get the f out
of there, period. Locate relationship, person, friendship, classroom, job like
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building anything. And that to me is that's a skill,
right to learn to listen to yourself and we need
to give permission to it. And I feel like that's
part of why I do what I do. So It's
like we just come to the crux of why it
matters so much for me to do the work I
do to help people find what their spiritual gifts are
to turn them on. Whether or not you practice witchcraft
(53:02):
doesn't matter to me. But being so sovereign and in
touch with yourself and your body, it's the way forward.
Speaker 5 (53:10):
Yeah. I agree.
Speaker 4 (53:12):
So this obviously, this podcast is called broadcasting seeds. So
plant the seed. This is one of the things I
ask everybody to do is go ahead and plant something
that you think is very important and broadcast that to
the yes to that.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
I know what it is, and I thought about this
before we connected today, and that's detox from the addiction
to your phone. You most importantly detalks from it. I
teach it in all my books and in all my classes.
I don't think that people even realize how addicted they
are to their devices. In fact, youth today have created
(53:53):
a term to go for a walk without your phone
and headphones, or to go do something without your phone
is called going naked it now and seriously, I mean
and I I people will they get twitchy, like if
if you don't have your phone with you for three
hours on a Saturday afternoon, people are like like, they're
like you could see it. Their bodies are like going
(54:14):
through like withdrawals. It's it's the it's the way that
you are most controlled right now. And so it's really
important and here and I'll give steps to practice it.
So start spending, you know, a couple of hours a
day with your notifications silence. Start there, do that for
you know, maybe maybe you pick a period of time
of one hour a day where your notifications are silenced.
(54:38):
The second week, when your notifications are silence, put your
phone in the other room. So the habit of grabbing it,
grabbing it, grabbing it, grabbing it stops. Right, So week two,
that one hour of time with notifications off, put your
phone in the other room, and just witness how many
times do you reach for your phone right and all
of a sudden you feel it right at work and
(54:58):
at home or when your grocery shop. And then from there,
start practicing leaving your phone behind whenever you can, walks
through the grocery stores, go back to making a handwritten
list if you need to, right like, go for a
walk without your phone. Start practicing, and eventually the way
it in my book I go through. There's a whole
ritual for this, because you are going to realize you
(55:20):
have an addiction. But the goal is to lead up
to one full day every month without your phone, full day, morning, noon,
and night. And you have to work into it, just
like you would detox from a drug. You have to
move slowly and practice it, you know, Like I have
rules in my house that no notification's on in my home. Ever,
so when my children come, when guests come, I have,
(55:40):
you know, I have. I live in a place where
people like to visit, so I have a lot of
I host a lot, and I have retreats, and there's
no notifications in my house. Like my house doesn't ding
alert or being ever. No, And it doesn't mean we
don't all check our phones a lot, it's just we're
not alerted to like, take control back of your attention,
(56:00):
take control back of your ability to go deep in
your mind and deep in your body. Because I promise
you that if your inclination when you have five spare
minutes while you're cooking chicken on the stove, if your
inclination is going to the stove, you have going to
your phone. You have missed that five minutes of connection
to your body, to your wisdom, to your spiritual gifts.
(56:21):
And so that's the seed I'm going to give. And
I could talk about it all day long, but it's
by far the most popular podcast I've ever recorded is
How I Went like a notification free life, How I
built a notification free life. And that's the seed is
I like it detox from the addiction to your phone.
Speaker 4 (56:40):
So what's really cool is one of the things that
they've started doing in schools around the nation is they
have to lock up their phones during school. So that
was one thing that happened in our entire school district
where we live, and my wife works at the school.
Now what she's a explained to me, and I've seen
(57:02):
because I still have a daughter that goes to that
school as well, there's like fighting is down.
Speaker 5 (57:09):
There's just like all these behaviors.
Speaker 4 (57:11):
That have been like rampant for a long time are
all on the down because they don't have.
Speaker 3 (57:18):
It.
Speaker 5 (57:19):
Yeah, it's it's wild.
Speaker 4 (57:21):
And even if they're on their phone the rest of
the day, yeah, because they go they have to go
six seven hours with.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
No fune beautiful. I love it so much.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
It's that even the energy around the campus is different.
It's so amazing.
Speaker 2 (57:36):
So I will I will preach it as long as
I am alive here in this lifetime and maybe from
the afterworld, even maybe when I'm back to spirit form
and I'm visiting all my people, I'm gonna like drop
their I'm going to push their phones into like water glasses,
you know, like I'm gonna gonna hold this this this tight.
Speaker 4 (57:54):
So tell the audience again where we can find you.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
Yes, Moon Temple School dot is my mystery school site,
and I have lots of different classes, whether it's developing
your spiritual gifts or wanting to learn more about how
to you know, bring a witchcraft practice into your life,
or even how to walk a spiritual path. That's where
that can be found. Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, all the places.
(58:19):
Just search my first name. And there's unfortunately a lot
of fake accounts in my name, so just make sure
you're looking for the first one I know it's and
it's t A h V E R L e E.
And then my forthcoming book series comes out in the
middle of July next year, and so you can go
to Taverley dot com and sign up for the waitlist.
Speaker 5 (58:38):
Amazing. Yeah, it's been a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
Thank you, Thank you for coming on, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 9 (58:58):
Solwind on my fay saturaze paints the time, Oh dunes
or the secrets time forgot, the hide, footprints fade, quick waves,
washing cleans Still. The spirit in the shoreline knows what
(59:18):
we've seen. There's a hutch in the breeding like it's
calling your name. Whispers of the moonlight, never speak the same.
Speaker 8 (59:30):
Sol at the water rule, let the night behind, Let
the stars are bad in the back of your mind,
which your souls on the shore line, learning how to
secret between the world that and what's meant to be?
(01:00:06):
That house God like a beacon through the head. God,
you wonderers who drift through the day, shall sing stories
when the tide bulls and the answers come slow, but
they still come through.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Take a breath ta get it.
Speaker 9 (01:00:20):
Let the mold man on wine.
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
There's a temple in the tide.
Speaker 10 (01:00:25):
If you quiet your mind to let the water rose,
let the night be cood, Let the stars draw bad
in the bad of your mind.
Speaker 8 (01:00:39):
We're just solds on the shoreline, s burting how to
see between the world that is.
Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
And what's meant to be?
Speaker 8 (01:00:50):
Who the moon's got a rhythm.
Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Who the seeds got a sign?
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
When the spirit starts.
Speaker 8 (01:00:58):
Rising, you can feel all around at the hard road.
Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
That's your heart, a line.
Speaker 8 (01:01:08):
With the ball of.
Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
The deep and the way of time.
Speaker 8 (01:01:14):
Were your souls on the shoreline waited to be breathing
between the world that is
Speaker 10 (01:01:23):
And what's meant to me
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