Free the Rabbits: Joel Thomas on Elite Bloodlines and the Spiritual Battle Ahead

In this episode of Podcasting Seeds, host Bennett speaks with Joel Thomas, the creator of the Free the Rabbits podcast. They delve into Joel's journey into the world of high strangeness, exploring conspiracy theories, Gnosticism, and the influence of the Catholic Church. The conversation also touches on the bloodlines associated with Jesus, the Merovingians, and the Priory of Sion, culminating in a discussion about the Antichrist and the potential implications of these bloodlines in the future.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:41):
So with you turn in better guards of mind.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
That's broadcasting Seeds, and were breaking the design of design. Yeah,
yeh yo yo, straight from the broadcast sad.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of pot Broadcasting Seeds.
Today we've got Joel Thomas really doesn't need an introduction,
But for those that do not know you, Joel, can
you tell people who you are and what you do?

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yeah, my name is Joel Thomas, and I am the
host of Free the Rabbits podcast. I'm also a musician,
and I also make documentary films with Merkele Media and
Dark Collar Productions, and we run around all over the
place hunting weird, the strange, anything in between. And we've

(01:38):
got some really cool series coming out next year too,
in addition to all the films that are already out
at merkelfilms dot com. So I am in to a
whole lot, and I've got some other things behind the
scenes that I'm not talking about yet, but I got
some other things I'm working on too, So stay pretty busy.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Excellently absolutely, So what's the place you want to drive
people too?

Speaker 4 (02:00):
If you want to just go to Joel Thomas Media,
actually go to link Tree slash Joel Thomas Media. That'll
get you to every single thing. So you go there,
you can get access to all of it.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, just because you know, sometimes we have favorites, right,
like I hate Facebook, but I love Instagram, so right,
you know, things like that. So the one question I
ask everyone that comes on is, and you know, you
keep it as shorter as long as you want, because
we have some other stuff to talk about. But what

(02:33):
got you into this world of high strangeness.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, so I would say that my parents, specifically my
mom did when I was a kid. So I have
been into the cryptids, UFOs conspiracy theories since I was
probably five or six years old, and I'm forty four now.

(02:58):
So I say that to say, I've seen the conspiracy
world change involve for good or bad over the last
you know, thirty five years, and I think that I'm
able to look at things with a little bit different
lens than say somebody who just got into stuff around

(03:20):
twenty twenty or earlier. And I think that people that
got into conspiracy theories maybe around twenty sixteen, when we
had the big craze that went down with Trump getting
in an office and you know, we had Pizzagate and
all those things. That was kind of when people first
got the mainstream taste of conspiracy theories. And then when

(03:43):
twenty twenty hit, obviously we had a lot of craziness
going on around the world, and that spawned off a
whole other group of people to get involved with conspiracy theories.
So again good and bad. It's good that people can
see things a little bit differently, But at the same time,
I think there's definitely a manipulative force behind the conspiratorial

(04:07):
and truther or world as well. And I know you're
very familiar with cast Hunstein and what I call the
cast Sunstein effects, so I'm really big on him specifically
an agent and vermule in the paper they wrote and
how it really shaped what we now know is the
truth or community. And I do think that the government
entities are involved with a lot of what I like

(04:29):
to call the mainstream conspiracy theories. And I know Truther's
conspiracy theories. Hate hearing that word put together, but it's true.
So once you get out of what we call the mainstream,
you have the conspiratorial world, and then you've got to
mainstream within that, because if you try to use logic
or critical thinking against some of these mainstream conspiracy theories,
then they treat you just like the mainstream people do.

(04:51):
They say you're a psyop or a fed or controlled op,
or whatever they want to use to discribe any kind
of critical thinking. And my take on conspiracies is this,
they absolutely exist. We know that some of them verbatim
exists per the CIA files that have been released over

(05:12):
the last fifty plus years. So that's a fact conspiracy
theories are a little bit different than conspiracies because those
are something that are a little less tangible to prove.
But we do have some that have a lot of
evidence to point towards there being something not right. It
just gets a little too much when people get tribalistic

(05:32):
and then they are fighting over their favorite theory, like it's,
you know, God's word or something. So that to me
is why I started for the Rabbits. But to your
point of when it started when I was a kid,
I've actually funny enough. I've Got My mom sent me
these man about a year ago, and I laughed when

(05:53):
I got them from her, and she sent me these
two books I had as a kid. I have literally
the portal I will Meyer when I was a kid
I used to read, and then I've Got My Life
is Bigfoot Breath, which was the other one that I
read as a kid too. So yeah, I've been in

(06:13):
this for a long time. So I went from watching
it being really fringe and it just being a few
people that had these ideas, and then I remember, in
like the early two thousands, more people started taking it
on board, but it was still very much in its infancy,
and people just sharing ideas around a campfire, and you'd

(06:33):
have a guy talking about flat Earth and a guy
talking about civilizations on the moon, and they can have
a civil conversation and it wasn't fighting over the shape
of the Earth and you're going to hell if you
don't believe it's flat or something like that, which is wild.
And you've got people that actually say that now, which
is super strange to me. But I know you and

(06:56):
I have talked at in link that the last event
we were at together, and we talked a little bit
about some of this kind of stuff and just how
that the truth or world is something that I think
needs some voices of reason in it, people that can
at least try to think with logic and reasoning and say, hey,

(07:18):
this hot new thing, let me put it to the
fire and the test of actual research and see if
it holds up. And I think there needs to be
bolder people in this space that are willing to take
the shrapnel. I don't know if you ever watched that
movie with Ben Stiller and who else was that Jack

(07:39):
Black Ohic Thunder, Tropic Thunder. You know at the beginning
when he's getting lit up by all the bullets, and
he keeps getting up. Gotta be willing to do that.
Will you take a bunch of hits.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
You got to have a couple of bullet sponges, man.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
You got to.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
So I think that there are more people now coming
forward that are becoming voices the space that are challenging
some of these quote unquote mainstream conspiracy theories that everybody
loves and saying, look there might be some truth here,
but also know that there are government entities manipulating them too.

(08:14):
So absolutely, I think that's why I started for the rabbits.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah. I think so many people are so quick to
put all their eggs in one basket because it's neat
and tidy and people want you know, you just talked
about it a second ago, where people want to people
want clean and this is what I believe in. This
is it, and anything outside of that I just can't handle.

(08:41):
So yeah, so all this stuff rhymes. Man, there's no
if and the butts. You can and it's that uh,
you know, like a board where it's got all the
strings and everything. It's you can do that with all
this stuff. So I one hundred percent agree. So so yeah, man,

(09:03):
let's talk about some bloodlines.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Right when I met you for the first time. Yeah,
we'll definitely talk about specifically the supposed bloodlines of Jesus
and then what I think that those bloodlines actually are,
because I do think there are groups that are protecting
bloodlines throughout the world, and I think that the version

(09:30):
that they're masquerading as Jesus' bloodlines aren't actually his, but
something far more nefarious. But these Gnostic groups like the Cathars,
the s Scenes, the Manicheans, Mandaeans all down through have
which also infiltrated on the Catholic Church side of things.

(09:51):
When we're talking about the Templars, and we'll talk about
the priory sign today Rex DEAs today, and we'll get
into how all of those different groups are working together
to protect what they say is the messianic line of
Jesus Christ. And they don't believe that Jesus was divinity
at all. He was a prophet, not to say that

(10:13):
he didn't have prophetic powers and he did things that
would be mystical because all these groups are gnostics, so
they believe that you can ascend and you can become
essentially an ascended master, and you can become one of
these Mahatmas or Secret Chiefs or whatever what group wants
to say in Theosophy or the Golden Dawn, or we

(10:34):
can trickle it down to the Ordo Templi orientis the Oto,
we can go into the AA that Crawley started. Any
of those kind of have those same ideas and it's
all rooted in Gnoscissism and the occult. And I think
that again, the Bloodlines of Jesus is super interesting. I mean,

(10:55):
I think a lot of us remember The Da Vinci
Code when it came out, and Holy Blood, Holy Grail
the book and everybody was really going nuts when the
Da Vinci Code came out. And it was a fun movie.
And I actually went back recently when I did this
series to watch it again and I enjoyed it again
later on in life. So it wasn't the movie wasn't enjoyable,

(11:17):
But I take it completely as fiction but also truth
at the same time, in the sense of a lot
of what they were saying in the movie lined up
with a lot of historical research that you can look
at and say, well, these groups existed and they are protecting.
What they're saying is this messianic line of Jesus Christ.

(11:37):
It's just that Jesus didn't have any kids, and the
fact that they are promoting that he had children because
they want to take away the idea that he was
the embodiment of God. And they also want to raise
Mary Magdalen on a pedestal, which essentially is the Gnostic

(11:59):
idea of the device feminine, which would be the opposite
of the Christ. So and she would be Sophia. So
that's kind of what is the underlying meaning and all
that because they want to bring Mary Magdalene up to
on par with Jesus in this entire thing, and because
she bore his children, than they are on the same level,

(12:22):
which again I don't agree with at all, because if
you believe that Jesus is God, no man is on
the same level of Jesus. So as we get into this, though,
we're going to talk about some names, and I mentioned
him already, Rex Dais, We got Knights Templar, we'll briefly
mention the Rosicrucians, mayor Vingians prior Sion. We'll talk a

(12:43):
lot about today, and there's a couple of early things
that we need to bring up. First, We've got the
dispo sinning and the dispo sinny is the relatives of
Jesus Christ. And sometimes that gets with this Rex Dais
and people say, oh, the bloodlines of Jesus, and well, okay,

(13:07):
his brothers and sisters. We don't know of any sisters biblically,
but we do know brothers because we know Matthew thirteen
fifty five talks about is this not the carpenter's son
or not his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas. So
we do know that he had brothers and that they
were very important in the early Church days after he
ascended to go back to heaven. So we do know

(13:30):
that the disposini was very important in the early Church days.
As a matter of fact, they dealt with a lot
of pushback from the governments. And we know the early
Church really had it tough. I mean a lot of
the apostles were being beheaded and killed, and you know,
stone in the streets for being Christians. This is before

(13:51):
obviously that Constantine came along and made it the Roman religion.
And there's a whole other rabbit hole with all that, obviously,
and that does tie into this too though, because you
had the Catholic Church going on but they were fighting
these Gnostic groups that were claiming to be protecting the

(14:13):
bloodlines of Jesus, while simultaneously the Gnostic groups were infiltrating
the Catholic Church and running groups out of there like
the Templars and the Rescrutions and some of these other
different factions. Right, So in essence, it's the same it
is is now in politics, right. That's what the politics
were of that age, was religion. So you had a

(14:36):
nefarious cabal behind the scenes that was Gnostic and occult
through and through that was manipulating both of these groups,
and they were simultaneously infiltrating the Catholic Church and running
a lot of nefarious ideas out of it.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah, it's absolutely wild. I can't the whole Catholic Church
gives me the willies in the first place, just because
of what I mean, if you go back to in
the history, it's just how it's how it's even got

(15:13):
with the point where you had all the infiltration from
the Gnostics and then the rise of the Jesuits, and man,
that stuff gets wild. It's it's almost too much to handle, right,
So go get That's why you got to take it
and bite you can't. You can't eat the whole elephant
at one time.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
And I think too, one thing that I try to
be real cognizant of when I'm researching the Catholic Church
and different church fathers that came out of there and
different people, they weren't all bad, and there were some
great leaders that were within the Catholic Church that had
great ideas. Some of them actually let the Catholic Church

(15:51):
over those ideas too, you look at Martin Luther. But
we definitely have some people who during a period of
time where for you to get access to the Word
of God, you needed to be able to learn how
to read and write, you need to learn in some
cases Latin, and some of those guys went through the

(16:11):
church to be able to learn the Word of God.
And I don't think that as a whole that the
Catholic Church is evil through and through. But I do
think the original origination point started as a very political idea,
and I do think there were some good people that

(16:34):
were involved early and involved later, even involved now. But
then it's like anything, right, the higher you go up,
the more infiltration you see from people who want to
manipulate the good that's in it. So it's kind of
a mixed bag. But I will say though that the
Catholic Church was very influential in manipulating a lot of

(16:57):
ideas throughout history.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Oh yeah, I mean they definitely, they definitely wove. Well,
it's one of those things that's they were the original
I guess you could call them like media companies, right.
They controlled the message, and if they controlled the message,
they controlled everything. They were very good. Well they're probably

(17:22):
still one of the best in the world at it
controlling a message. So that's a huge thing.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Absolutely, And to swing back into this this Sposceni and
what they get confused with a lot of time is
rexdais and it's translated to king God or God king,
And it depends on who you talk to about who
rexdais is, what they're involved with. There's a lot of

(17:50):
theories that overlap with European families into the lineage of Jesus.
They're kind of the main thread, right, They're the ones
because they're the ones that are inner in with all
of these different bloodlines that are talked about, the Merivingians,
we talked about the Sinclair's. We can get into some
of the other groups like the prior scion rexdis is

(18:12):
kind of the hand, the hidden hand behind all of it.
And there's some writings that were in the late twentieth
century that popularized the idea, and they purportedly trace it
back to the lineage of these temple priests, the Zadakite
line and the sons of Zadok, which Zadok has talked

(18:33):
about and the prophecies of Ezekiel and Zadok was a
high priest in Solomon's temple at the time. So these
Zetagite priests were of God. But according to what ended
up coming out of their bloodlines later is this rex
Deis group. And they're a wild group man. So they

(18:56):
are interesting in the sense that they have titles that
are names that we recognize in the Bible, Melchizedek, Michael, Gabriel,
and every generation has one has in Melchizedek, Michael has
a Gabriel, and purportedly the way that their temples and

(19:19):
schools work. And this isn't for the baby Ears just
to give anyone listening. It's not going to be a
great thing to listen to. But the rex Days priesthood,
they operate two boarding schools in the temple complex, and
they have one for boys and one for girls and

(19:40):
at the privileges. And they also what they do is
when the girls become of age, they deflower them and
then marry them off the husbands who raise the children
of the priest that violated the young girls, and then
the children they bring back into the temple and they

(20:02):
do it all over again. And they basically are trying
to continue these bloodlines and supposedly of one such union.
This is where Jesus came from and he was fathered
by a priest with the ceremonial name Gabriel. So this
is their story. Obviously I don't believe it, but this

(20:24):
is their story of what they believe. And what they've
tried to do is protect this messianic blood line of Jesus,
who is there I wouldn't even say Messiah, just more
of a Messiah like character, but combined with the bloodline
of Mary Magdalene, they have these children in these bloodlines

(20:47):
that they protect out of it. Now, when we get
to the end of this episode, I'll suggest what I
think is actually the bloodlines and what they are. But
I also think this is narcissis one on one right,
it's the steps to devalue Jesus. It's to take away
his divinity and to take away our responsibility to him

(21:09):
and our ability to give our life to him and
become safe right. And it kind of lends into what
now we see in the New Age movement with Christ's consciousness,
that everyone can reach this state of Christ. We can
all become Christ right if we do enough good word right,

(21:30):
right exactly. And the truth is, when you give your
life to Christ, he is but it is but correct.
It's not something you can manifest by yourself by doing
good enough or no man's good enough. The Bible talks
about that, and that's the key is giving your life
to him. And when you do, then He begins to

(21:53):
manifest in you things that you never knew possible. And
the way that you connect to people and the way
that you view life and the way that you grow
as a human being. All these things happen, but it
doesn't happen on your own. And that's the ego part
of narcissism, right. It's killing the ego by growing the ego,
is what I always say, because they always say they
kill the ego, so they can, you know, beat up

(22:16):
the demiurge to get into the Pleroma and become an
ascended master. But there's a lot of ego involved to
get to that point. So you're really not killing the
ego crisis to take up your cross and follow him.
That's killing the ego is realizing that you're not good
enough and you'll never be good enough.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, man, kill the ego to grow the ego. I
mean it sounds it's that that goes across a lot
of different things, not just narcissism, but you know everything,
even like the military, they break you down to build
you up, right, it's that whole especially, and I find
that it happens with things that where they need to

(22:54):
program you not right, not you know, not just like hey,
I'm the way, follow me and that's it. Right, You
don't need to know breaking down of ego at all
other than that's just part of the belief. And I
mean you do have to break down your ego, but
it's done differently.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Of course, So right, absolutely, and more on the ego.
The s Scenes they're a great group that are very
interesting because they're very connected to the Cumaran Caves and
the Dead Sea because they had cities there or a
city there, and they dealt with a lot of the

(23:37):
scrolls that we found in the Comraan Caves as well.
And reportedly Jesus was a member of the s scene
segment of Jewish society, and they are the ones that
essentially started protecting the royal Davidic bloodline of Jesus. And

(24:00):
there were this mystic Jewish community there around during the
Second Temple period that flourished in the second century BC.
And they also think that they seceded from the Zadakite priests.
So you got this rex deis that's interwoven in all
of these different groups, even all these Gnostic groups. And

(24:23):
what's interesting is is that according to the story of
the essenes Is that Jesus was removed from the cross
when he was still alive, so he never died. And
then they proclaim that Jesus then married Mary Magdalene and
they had two children, so they had to split her

(24:44):
in Jesus up because they had to protect the children.
So Mary heads off to France and she ends up
with the Renleis Chateau, and we're going to talk about
that place. That's a very interesting place when it comes
to the priory Scion documents that were supposed to be discovered. Also,
there's a demonic statue of Asthma Deus there and we'll

(25:04):
talk about why. Asthmadis is also at this chapel, and
she heads to this rend Leys chateau, the home of
the Cathars, Mary Vingians, Esscenes, Allain's Rex Deis, Templars. They're
all there in this one epicenter. And the other son
was said to have migrated to England with Joseph of Arimathea,

(25:27):
and that's where the Priory of Scion began talking about
Mary Magdalene being the Chalice, the holy grailed Rose. That's
where the rosie cross comes from. In rose re Crucianism,
the rose represents Mary Magdalen. She is the Chalice. And
that's where even in the movie The da Vinci Code,

(25:50):
when they talk about da Vinci's painting the Last Supper
and how the one that's drawn isn't actually one of
those Dipoles, it's actually Mary Magdalene, which I agree with.
I think that da Vinci did that on purpose, and
I think that was his goal. Absolutely. I don't think
that he did this without thinking ahead of what they

(26:15):
were trying to hide and we talked about just now
this ren Leat Chateau and how we started finding out
about these weird documents, these prior to Scion documents that
were supposedly found there in the eighteen nineties. There was
this father Sonya and he supposedly discovered these Cathart documents,

(26:39):
and they tracked Mary Magdalene to Jesus and Jesus's blood
lines and they had these genealogies and they chronicled the
survival all the way to the Merryvingian blood lines. Right,
So what's weird is he finds these documents and then
becomes stupid wealthy and he ends up building this Tower

(27:03):
of Magdalene there at ren Lay Chateau, and he's this,
you know, poor father, but all of a sudden finds
these documents, has all this unbelievable wealth, and he's getting
it from the Church, which is also interesting. So of
course the Gnostics will say the Church was paying him

(27:24):
off to not put out the information because they knew
that if people found out that Jesus wasn't really the
son of God and he had children, that don't shape
Christianity at its core. Really, that's the game that they've
always said, that's why that the church did that. I
think it's a double move. I think that that's really
the thing that they want you to see. But ultimately,

(27:46):
what they're really protecting is these other bloodlines that is
going to end up being something very significant in the
end times, and it will be something that's presented as
a massiaic type thing figure, but it's not going to
be what they're saying that it is, that it's Jesus' bloodlines.
Got So what's interesting is this Tower of Magdalene. He

(28:11):
builds the Tower of Magdalene to honor Mary Magdalene after
he finds these documents. Right. So the other part that
was really interesting though in the chapel this statue of
Asthmo Deis and man, this statue of Asthma DEAs is wild.
So if you know anything about demonology and asthmadeis, Asthma
Davis was the Garter as the guardian of secrets. So

(28:35):
Asthma DEAs very interesting that they put this prominent demonic
figure statue in the chapel that you can see to
this day. And it is bizarre, but it makes sense
if Asthmadeus is the Garter of secrets and they are
protecting this secret bloodline, the Royal Cup, the Chalice, which

(29:02):
would be Mary Magdalene and subsequently her blood lines that
spawn out of it.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
That's wild. Guardian of Secrets asthmadeus. I can't believe it's
in the chapel.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
It's really interesting. You could again just type in ass
and the Google search engine or something. You probably but.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
I'll probably put like a picture of it, like overlaying
once we get through this, like uh yeah, yeah, wow,
that's that's wild. Yeah. That was always something that that
hit me about the that story that Dale. I mean,
you know, it's a book, it's it's a great story.

(29:47):
But like the how the Merrivngian Kings, how that whole
blood line just there again, that's probably an episode on
itself with the Meravngians and how they.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Did a whole episode of the MARRIVINGI and the fisher
Kings they called.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Them, Yeah, the fisher Kings right, And that's some rabbit
holes man.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Absolutely, I mean, what's really interesting. One of the queens
was said to have made it with the Quinnatar, which
also slid into the blood lines, which I think that's
a little more plausible for talking about where these blood
lines are really coming from and we're talking about hybrids,
and we're talking about napheline blood lines, but that was

(30:29):
said to have happened as a part of these Marivngi
and Fisher King blood lines, and that's part of their lore. Wild.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Have you ever been to any of these places over
I've been to the Chapel and Scott the Sinclair Chapel.
The symbolism all over that place is absolutely It just
will blow your mind. You can't believe that they actually
have it there. You're just like, wait, seriously, yeah, and

(31:03):
then and then to have it and call it a
chapel right right now? I know that you know, just
like a lot of things, that it was built as
a chapel. But a lot of times, you know, you've
got places where other religions will come in and they'll
like overtake. You literally think this place would be like
a pagan building and right that the church just came

(31:27):
in and took it over. But it's not. That's not
the story. So it's wild. All these things are wild.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Love it, yeah, absolutely, And that's the more. That's a
lot of what I found when I was doing this
research about the supposed bloodlines of Jesus. It's it gets
even deeper. So you were just talking about the Sinclair's
and we can kind of shift into the prior Scion
and how that really comes to be. And as Sinclair Clan,

(31:55):
they were the Scottish guardians for the preservation of the
Templar slash rex day as slash prior to Zion Gnostic
bloodline of Jesus, which is pretty wild. And this Scottish
Templar alliance actually started in eleven twenty eight and this
is when the Templar founder, Hugh d Payan came along

(32:17):
and he met with King David, the first of Scotland,
and this was after the Council of Troy's where Saint
Bernard des Claravo. They integrated this whole Celtic Christian Church
within the Gnostic Cistercian order, so they actually were able

(32:38):
to hide themselves with in Catholicism by doing that, and
then King David ended up ascending to the throne and
that's when the Celtic Christian Church was struggling financially and
then the elders decided that they could connect with these templars,
specifically Saint Bernard, and he was super wealthy, and then

(33:01):
they just merged with that Cistercian order, which was ended
up being the Sustercian Abbey's, so it ended up being
a branch of like monks and nuns that broke off
from the Benedictines. And again they were all connected to
Bernard of Claravo and this Latin rule which was the Templars.

(33:25):
So basically everything was connected. It's like lego pieces. It
all connects to this bloodline, supposed bloodline of Jesus that
they're all protecting in this clan Sinclair, and they were
the barons of what Roslin and we can get the
Rosalind Chapel correct. So that's where we started getting into

(33:50):
the deeper aspects of the Les Dossier's secrets, and that's
where we start out more about these grand masters, these
leaders that are supposedly running the Priory Brotherhood, and that

(34:13):
was a really interesting piece of information that's talked about
a lot in most of the Holy Blood Holy Grail series,
the book. And then you've got obviously DaVinci code. Anything
that talks about these blood lines of Jesus, you're going
to see the prior sign. Now if you go to
places like Wipedia or any of these other spots. Obviously

(34:34):
they're going to try to discredit Plantier, who brought forth
these documents that he said he found in Roslyn Chapel.
But what's funny is even in that movie they talk
about how and this is a fact, and you can
find this in the mainstream sources, that he was pressured

(34:55):
to come out and say that he forged these documents.
So he actually did and come forth for a long time,
and they actually pressured him to do so, which I
think that Pierre planned hard. I feel like that he
I think it was just a shell game. I think
he was in on the shell game. I think it

(35:17):
was Hey, listen, we want you to go forth and
say you were pressured to do this. So it's the
ultimate SiO. They all were in on it. So I'm
going to go forth act like I'm pressured to say
that it's a forgery, when in essence it really is
a forgery, but it actually is a bloodline that we're protecting.
So it's a multi layered PSIO.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah, just the you know, these are not the drids
you're looking for, you know, getting them, get them out
of the way. Like that didn't happen that long ago.
I mean that that only happened in like the fifties.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Right, nineteen sixty four actually.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
So the sixties, fifties, sixties, Yeah, And they just played
it off like it was a scam.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Right right, And I think that was the scam. Act
like a scam, right, act like it's a scam to
make people feel like that he got pressure to do it,
so it makes people put more eyes on it to
think that it is real.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
But I think, like I've heard people that I've heard seeing,
you know, things about people that actually analyzed the documents
and they couldn't tell that they were forgeries either. Some
of them they could, but some of them couldn't. They couldn't.
It was that if they're forgeries, they're the best they've

(36:35):
ever seen.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Right, right. So when this list of grand Masters came
forward in nineteen sixties, Pierre Plantard came out, and what
was interesting enough about it was he said that he
was the last grand Master. So that's where a lot

(36:57):
of people say that it's a forgery, because he was
just trying to create this kind of new secret society
and put himself at the top of it. And I
get that way of looking at it, and I'm not
saying it couldn't be true, because you know, I'm open
minded to course any of this stuff being a complete scam.
So we don't know for sure. But what's interesting about

(37:18):
it is the names that are talked about their ties
in their tie into too occult practices throughout history. And
also Plantard's knowledge of the genealogies in the bloodlines was
super interesting too, So I found what he said to

(37:40):
be compelling enough to say, yeah, I think there probably
is a prior sign. But I also think that they
again played this shell game to say it's fake, to
make you believe that it's real, when in essence, the
bloodlines are fake, but they are protecting a blood line.

(38:02):
It's just not Jesus' if that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Gotcha.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
So a lot of names on us too that are
pretty wild. Nicholas Flamel's on their leader. Ar Da Vinci
obviously would be on there, Robert Flood another big occultist,
Robert Boyle another one, Isaac Newton is a very interesting
one that's on there too. Charles Radcliffe was on there.
We got John Cocteau and he was the last one
before Plantard, so he was what they said was the

(38:27):
last grand master before him. So it's pretty wild. And
it is said to have started and founded in France.
They don't know exactly when. Obviously, we got to track
it all the way back to the original, which would
be Geesaws Jean de Geesaurs, and that was in the

(38:48):
late eleven hundreds, so we're talking a long time ago
when this actually started. But again, the Priory Sign was
just an offshoot from rex Dais and Sinclair's and all
these other groups that had been protecting it. It was
just the new incarnation of what was protecting these bloodlines.

(39:11):
And obviously it dissolved in nineteen fifty six, and then
of course Plantard came out in the sixties and said that,
oh it was fake, it wasn't real. And then, of course,
interestingly enough, all these books started coming out about it,
and these guys believed it even after they said that
it was a hoax. They're kind of like you and me. Yeah,

(39:33):
he was pressured to come out and say it was
a hoax. And we've seen plenty of people do that.
We don't listen, man, We know plenty of UFO cases
in the nineteen forties where people were talking about it,
and then all of a sudden they came out and said, nah,
it didn't really happen. And then you come to find
out later they said, I just said that because I
needed everybody to get off my back end the government
pressure stuff.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
When they get pressured, man, right, I mean you see
people cop to they didn't even commit yeah, willingly, just
to make it stop. So I can only imagine that
the pressure put on some of these folks to play
along like there. Of course, of course they're going to

(40:15):
and they're going to tell you whatever will get you
to leave them alone, period.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
Absolutely, man. And the other thing about Plantard that was
interesting that he came out and said that he was
actually of the male line of the Mayor of the Indians,
and he was a direct to send it of Dagobert
the second and he was the next great monarch prophesied
by no Stra Damis. So he went really deep with it,

(40:44):
saying that he was the man and he was the
last grand master of the prior scion, which listen, he
probably played up a lot of that, I'm sure he did.
And again he could have just been a front man
to push this ida out and play it and spin
it in a certain way to make it look even

(41:06):
more like a hoax. And I think to your point
that people that looked at the documents, yeah, some of
them could have looked like forgeries, but there were a
lot of historians that study texts that said, man, this
doesn't look like it's a forgery.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Well. One of the things that's crazy too is because
those documents now are in the French National Library, but
I think they're almost impossible to look at. I think
that they won't let people look at them from what
I've heard.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Yeah, that's super interesting. And generally speaking, if they don't
let anybody look at them, not even people who have.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Academics, right, correct, Like you've got to get all kinds
of different like it's you know, one of those layered
tiered clearance things. That's just why this as wild.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Dude, So for sure, Man, so kind of to swing
it into what I think that these bloodlines are, and
it's I don't think it's any secret. I've kind of
hinted towards what I think that they probably are when
you're looking at Rextais and the prior Scion organizations and

(42:23):
what they're protecting all these gnostic groups, the Essenes, the Cathars,
the Manicheans, all these different groups. What are they actually protecting? Well,
I think, and I know other people who look at
these groups as being real, that they're protecting a bloodline
for sure, and that would be the blood lines of

(42:43):
the Antichrist. And I think that the bloodlines of the
Antichrist aren't coming from a bloodline of Yashia. I think
they're coming from some sort of fallover of nepheline blood
lines of the past. And I think that's where we're
going to get the inversion and in the end days
of what Jesus was, because the Antichrist is a figure

(43:08):
who's going to mirror what Yashua did, and he's going
to pronounce himself to be a Messiah and essentially trick
the Jews at least for the first for a bit,
you know what I mean, before he runs up and
the files the temple. So I think that we can

(43:29):
look at that and say, well, that makes a lot
of sense, especially since they put this so heavily out
in the zeitgeist over the past thirty to forty years.
I mean, they've been pumping this out there and we're
seeing new incarnations of it now You know what even
spawned me to even want to do this series was

(43:50):
the fact that I kept seeing people after I had
done an episode about RH negative and it was part
of my Good Nephlin series, and I had done a
whole piece about our H negative and where it could
come from. Obviously we don't know a whole lot about it,
but there were a lot of people saying that I
have URH negative and it's the blood line of Jesus.

(44:11):
I have the Jesus blood line in me. And that's
the one that's been rolling around really hard here lately.
And it's back to that thing that I preach on
my show all the time. It's this need for people
to feel special. Well, I've got the special blood. Oh
I'm a star seed. Oh I'm an indigo child, I'm this,
I'm that, instead of just knowing that in God we're
all special and yeah, there are things that each of

(44:35):
us have that others don't, but it doesn't make us
any better than anyone else. And I think that's what's
happening now. People think they have this mystic power and
maybe they do to a point, right of it, right
right for sure, And that just spawned me out in
this hole. I'm gonna do this blood lines of Jesus
thing thoroughly and really go into where that they come from,

(45:00):
who is actually connected to them, Why they would want
to even create this idea that Jesus had a bloodline
when we know that he didn't, and what would be
the motivation for them to do that. Well, if you
create this hidden secret that is being protected, and then
you release it at the right time and say that

(45:21):
this is the guy that came from the bloodline of Jesus,
this is the actual Messiah, this is who we've been
waiting for all along, and then you get the Jews
to buy into it too, well, then you got the
whole recipe for the end times right there. And I
think that in the end, there'll be groups that come forward,

(45:43):
whether it's Rex Daeis or one of some of these
other secret groups, and they'll produce documentation that historians will
get a hold of, they'll be able to look at
and they'll quote unquote verify that this is of the
bloodline of g Jesus, and it will flip the world
upside down if that happens. And obviously we know that

(46:10):
in Daniel eleven twenty one it talks about he will
be succeeded by a contemptible person who has not been
given the honor of royalty. So we know that he's
going to not be of the blood line of Jesus,
not the Dividic blood line in that sense. However, I
do think that there's a precedent to say that he's
going to come out of one of the tribes of
Israel and come from this Davidic blood line, obviously not

(46:33):
of Jesus, but of the Davidic blood line. So I
think there's something to be said for that too, especially
when we're tracking all the bloodlines like Scota and all
these ones that end up over in Scotland and Ireland,
and you go down that whole rabbit hole of the
Twaha data none, and that's when you start seeing, okay,
Twaha data nine are all tied up in this and

(46:54):
from most accounts, those were giants that had quote unquote
magical powers. So that lends in this idea of the
nepheline too. So you've got this other connection that's interwoven
into this idea of the blood lines of Yeshia, and
I believe in the end that's what we're going to
see some version of that, right. I don't know how

(47:15):
they're going to present it. I don't know exactly who's
going to present it, but it makes a lot of
sense if we have all of these groups throughout history
that have tried to protect this bloodline, protect the chalice, Right,
what are they protecting it for? And if it's something
they're protecting, it's got to be something that's significant. And

(47:35):
if we know it's not the blood lines of Jesus,
what is it?

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Right?

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Yeah, I've always been of the mind I guess that
when we talk about the Antichrist, I think we're talking
about more than one possible person, right. I think like
you're saying, you've got this You've got this tree, and
you've got all these little branches that come off of

(48:01):
it that are all from the same route, right, from
the same bloodline. But there's so there's different houses within that, right,
just like any royal family, right, And you've got little
like in any given generation, there's probably three to four
different people that could step up to be and they're

(48:23):
groomed to be this guy. Right. That that's my theory,
that's kind of my running theory. I don't know how
accurate that is it just feels what feels right to me.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
I don't think you're off. And I think they're always
trying to push this to the forefront, and I think
they've been thwarted because it's not time yet, right. I
think you're right. I think you have.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
I just think they're being over ready, right, or you know,
they're like trying to be the boy scout. As a
boy scout, they're trying to be prepared, right and have
all kinds of things that they can that they can
just do when tim is right.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
So no, I think you're spot on with that assessment
and what they've tried to do over the last two
thousand years for sure. And I do think eventually, when
it all culminates and the Beast rears his ugly head,
then I don't believe in the slightest that when he

(49:22):
does that, he's going to be something that people fear.
I think people are going to love him. I think
he's going to represent peace and hope and all the
things that we want out of what will eventually be
a world leader, right Yeah, And I think that right exactly,
And he's going to represent the Messiah, and that's how
the Jews are going to get tricked, and that's how

(49:43):
they're going to at least for a few years, for
a few years for sure, until you know about halfway
through the tribulation and then you see this, Yeah, this
whole thing unfold. But yeah, I do believe that the
bloodlines or the Jesus blood lines exist in a format

(50:05):
that they are protecting. Now, I don't believe that it's
actually his. And again, there's so many rabbit holes that
spawn off from this. I mean, it's a massive series
that I did on it, so people can go check
that out if you want to hear the like Tony
Merkle says, the Encyclopedia version of what I do.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
So that's great. Yeah, but you, I mean, you've done
episodes on all this stuff, so folks check it out.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Man.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
I mean, one of the first things that ever drew
me to your h was the when you filled in
for Tony. I think this was like two years ago,
maybe you filled in for him when he was on vacation,
and he kind of started talking about the good Nephelum,
right right, and that just sent me down this rabbit

(50:56):
hole of talking and just doing mad type of search
on David's Mighty Men just you know, Oh yeah, just amazing.
I love it.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Yeah, that's one of my favorite series. I'm working on
a fifth part to that now. So I've got a
fifth part I'm going to put out at some point
with that. I just wrapped up my Little Seasoned Conspiracy
Theory series and it ended up being it ended up
being over twelve hours. Oh man, So it's six parts.

(51:28):
I haven't even dropped the last two parts yet. They're
on the way. And I went deep, man, I went
as deep as I possibly could. I did just in
an ordinate amount of time in hours of research on this,
and I've just felt very compelled to do it because
I feel like that it really lends to what I've said,
where conspiracy spiral out of control and people don't have

(51:54):
a foundation to really look at these conspiracy theories through
a logical and biblical lens, and then once it spirals
out of control, people just start buying into whatever because
it sounds good, it's sexy. I'll call them the sexy conspiracy.
It's sexy and it is, like the Little Season is
a very sexy conspiracy.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Absolutely, I mean, and it just makes you think period.
I love stuff like that, right, Like the rapture that
sent me down so many different rabbit holes. I'm trying
to pre trib med trib maw no trip.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Right, like maybe he believes there's three, so you know
he might not be wrong either, So he's got a
good precedent for it. I've talked about it, so it's
it's interesting. And I think for me what really spawned
me to want to do that series was one is
you feel right in my soul? And I said, I
really need to look into this and just see at

(52:51):
the root core biblically what's being said. Plus I want
to look at all these tertiary ideas coming out of
it and see who's involved. You know, what is going
on with new chronology and losing seven hundred to a
thousand years time. Who are the guys pushing this? You
know that's something that people don't ask is and you
know my show very well. I love studying people, and

(53:13):
you find out a lot when you study people and
what they're involved in. And to me, when I was
able to research, hey, here's Anatoy Famenko and here's Gunner
Hinson and some of these guys who are saying that
we're missing all this time. But what do they believe
about Jesus. That was my biggest deterrent from the little

(53:34):
season was, man, these guys are holly not Christian, and
they don't believe that Jesus is who he says he
is at all. And how is a Christian? Am I
supposed to take rightward what these guys have to say
about timeline missing?

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Absolutely yep, So I just you do you have to
put it through the lens of why why are they
doing this? And what do they have to gain from
what they're saying? I mean, just absolutely, Yeah, it's wild.
So we are at like the fifty three minute mark,

(54:08):
so obviously this is called broadcasting seeds. I would like you,
and I ask every guest to plant a seed in
the audience's mind before we go.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
I would say, your best course of action with anything
in life is to seek God's will for you at
the root core.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
You know.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
I'll leave you with a nice verse that I've been
telling people a lot here recently, and it's Ecclesiastes seven thirteen,
and it says, consider what the Lord has done, man
cannot straighten what he has made crooked. And I it's
funny because you don't think about it that way because

(54:58):
you think that you know, straight is the way, narrow
is the way, and that's true. But what this verse
means is that our road isn't straight because we're not
supposed to see to the end. And God has massive hills, mountains,
He's got massive turns. We don't know if there's a

(55:18):
wolf around the turn, we don't know what's going on.
A lot of obstacles, right, And I think that's built
by design to teach us one how to trust him
and have faith in him, and then number two, it's
to have that reliance that we know that the plan
that He set out for us is best for us,

(55:39):
and we're willing to just take a step forward. I'm
not worried so much anymore about five years down the road.
You know, I've got plans. Obviously, you're supposed to plan,
and you're supposed to create, and you're supposed to look ahead.
But I also know that those plans can change depending
on what God has. So I'm getting more comfortable with
the here and now and not worry so much about

(56:01):
the end game, because, for one, I don't really know
the endgame.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
So the deeper we get into this, the less I
think I know, right right, right as it should be.
You really don't, So what have you got coming up?
Stuff that's coming up for you?

Speaker 4 (56:23):
So I've got a very interesting documentary series that's coming
out quarter one next year, and you and I have
talked about it. It's called Crowley's melon Heads, Children of
the Beasts. I spent about a month shooting it, so
seventeen days of shooting, but we were traveling all over.

(56:43):
We went to Utah, Connecticut, Upper Ohio, Michigan, all the
places the Meltonheads are seen. We also went out to
Utah to Salt Lake to get into some interesting Mormon
lore that tied into this whole occult Mellonhead project that

(57:04):
I was working on. Got a lot of really interesting
names involved with it too. Obviously, Tony Merkle's a part
of it, and Isaac Wishop, who a lot of people
know who he is too, so he's a big part
of this too. So it's gonna be a really interesting series.
Started out as a film project, but it got so
massive that it's going to be a series of mini
series that we're gonna put out. So it's gonna be

(57:26):
really interesting and it's gonna be our first really foray
into mixing heavily researched material with boots on the ground,
So I spearheaded the project with a ton of research
I've done on Crowley and his involvement with British Intelligence
and also this weird connection with him and these big
headed entities. So it's going to be a pretty fascinating

(57:50):
thing as far as the podcast goes, I've got a
ton of projects I'm working on with that and some
interesting people I'm gonna be working on too. I just
recorded for The Confessionals with Ed Maybury on a very
interesting topic, so that's come out at some point early
next year, so that'll be a lot of fun for people.
And yeah, that's pretty music I'm working on as well.

(58:13):
So I got a lot going on.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Well, just grind and grinding, baby grinding. Tell everyone where
they can find you again, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
The easiest place to find me is Joel Thomas Media's
I do this backwards every time. It's go to link
tree slash Joel Thomas Media. You can get to everything
from there, so all the things that I do you
can get right there. Any of the socials you like
I'm on, so you can go to there to find
me and obviously. The podcast Free the Rabbits is on
every platform. You go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, you can

(58:48):
go to YouTube where I do video, and I have
a lot of pictures and media that go up while
I'm talking about a lot of these things too, so
and I source as much as I possibly can and
with the research, so I can tell you where to
go find it, where to go read it. You know,
I'll suggest books to people to go check out too.
So it's a good time, So go check it out

(59:11):
you get a chance.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Absolutely, thanks for coming on, man, absolutely, man, I have blast. Yeah,
thanks appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Pull the veil back light in the tunnels.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
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the truth in the shadows lockdown like I have. It
was one deep through the blood camp, every the magic.
We cracked, the cold break, the change watch, the lies
all panic with the world from the trans Brito or

(59:46):
Rabbits fet around.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
They kept the truth in the shadows locked down like
I had. It probably plays in the dark if we
thrown it. We cracked the cold break, the change watch,
the lies all panic, Lift the veil from the world.
Rido Rabbits, Rieto rabbits.

Speaker 5 (59:59):
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the family trees.

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crown heads bown to this secret up sension. History ain't
and it's redacted in the margins. The code, the Holy Blood,
the mister reason Alarm and the Shepherd and the Serpent
both hunt for the garden. But the Lamb didn't die,
so these woz could keep barge. Ain't we questioned them reality?
And that's why the curbs turn conspiracy the fact and

(01:00:25):
the sleepers start their hear restatement walls up deception. But
we're tearing down the mirrors because the biggest evolution starts
ringing from the spirit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
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every of the magic we cracked the cold.

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the keys in the.

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Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
When the hunters gets slippy, every questions a bullet, when
the truth gets shoppy, they.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Want silence, but the spiver won't captive.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
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the truth in the shadows are down like a.

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Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
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Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
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the cradle, the cradle, We flipping the tables, We flipping
the tables, and.

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dig up the truth.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
Let the skeptics get from next and every legacy is
a weapon.

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Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
The future brains set, but the scheme still you net,
I'm they turning prophets. They can't censor of the stream
because every words a torch for the ones still us
seen rabbits run through.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
The tunnels with the secrets.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
The glen to the underground rises and we crashed.

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The machine misinformation. There's a prison, but were picking the locks.

Speaker 5 (01:02:14):
Every mind that wakes up at the back to the box.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
You can there read the truth.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
But the bomb still talks, and the coasts of the
pastel haunt Effrey, false guy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
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and panic jeul This abby the freedom freedom breed of Rabbits.

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Wake them up, wake them up, Priory and panic jewels
this abbit.

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Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
The mind is the battlefield. And we just saw the
audience free the rabbits. Freedom the rabbits, Free the rabbits, freedom,
freedom breed the rabbits.

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armed the audience. Freedom rabbits.

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