December 15, 2025 • 61 mins
In this engaging conversation, Nick Willard, host of the Almost Canon podcast, shares his journey into the world of the paranormal, discussing his early influences, personal experiences with Sasquatch, and the mysteries surrounding the Bennington Triangle. The discussion delves into the connections between ancient civilizations and modern supernatural phenomena, as well as theories on missing persons and the importance of exploring beyond biases in paranormal research.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
H broadcast seeds, broadcasting seeds, playing truth in the minds
(00:32):
of the people.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
All right, we are live, We'll not live recording life. Nick,
tell us who you are, what you do, and where
we can find you.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah. Sure, my name is Nick Willard. Uh. I live
here in Vermont, southern Vermont, a small little podcast called
Almost Cannon. Uh. And that's really it. I mean, I
I worked for the postal service. I spend most of
(01:07):
my time delivering mail. When I'm not doing that looking
stuff up.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I'm sure you take plenty of weird stuff as a
postal worker, though.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, oh yeah, nothing, nothing really cool yet, just like people.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
But yeah, what, so what first pulled you into the
world of like, you know, your podcast Almost Canon, you know, paranormal,
high strangeness, all the you know, supernatural whatever, because you
kind of touch on all of it. What got you
(01:45):
into this?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah? So, as far as I can remember, like, I've
always heard ghost or I guess it probably started all
with my aunts. She worked at a hospital, should always
tell spooky stories and talk about ghosts, like she had
an interest in ghosts. So that's where it started from that,
(02:09):
and then it moved on to like cryptids and Bigfoot
after I watched a documentary in like nineteen ninety eight.
It's it's old school Discovery Discovery Channel doc on Bigfoot
way before like paranormal you know stuff, and was on
TV every now and then they'd throw in something on
(02:31):
like the Lockedness Monster or Bigfoot Ghosts and things like that,
and it really kicked off from there. I can remember
when the Internet was like first became accessible. I was
just like looking up Bigfoot encounters and printing them off
and I'd have folders, and I totally wanted to be
a cryptozoologist when I was a kid, and my interests
(02:56):
really never stopped there. But other than that, I have
plenty of ghosts encounters and I've had one what I
I didn't see anything, but I heard it and I
know it had to have been a sasquatch encounter.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Right. Where was that?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah? That was on my my grandparents. My family there
own a bunch of land on this mountain called Mount Equinu,
Mount Ephram Sorry, and I'm gonna be talking about Mount
Equinox later on, but this mountains called Mount Ephraim kind
of like by my house a little bit. My grandparents,
my family owned a bunch of land. I've always I've
(03:40):
always hunted up there for as long as I can remember,
you know, ever since I was a little kid, ten,
ten years old or whatever, and this it's always been
kind of weird, Like I don't know, it's always it's quiet,
it's super quiet.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
She got this weird feeling that you're being watched, something
I've always felt. And I would go up there as
a kid and just hang out in the woods, explore
and things like that. But my encounter happened in twenty
and seventeen on opening day of rifle season, and I was,
you know, I'm like, I'm not too big in the hunting.
(04:17):
I'll go out every year, but I'm not picking a
spot and sitting there for hours. I'm walking around. You know,
this is hunting my grandparents' land, only I don't really
go anywhere else. I'm not worried about getting shot by
someone else. And there's only one other dude who hunts
this this land, and I just so happened to meet
him this hill. There's this long hill halfway up the mountain.
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There's this big, long hill. There's an old road that
goes he kind of bisects the property, goes all the
way to the top of the mountain, and I was
I'm starting shaking him. I was walking up that road
and as I'm going up the road, he's coming down
the road. Could tell like he was freaked out something
that just happened, and you could, I could just tell
(05:04):
his face was white.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
He was like yeah, wow.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
And I was like, I was like, how's the hunting,
And he's like, oh, man, I don't I'm leaving. I
just had this bobcat jump over the top of me.
I was sitting behind this rock. I was like, oh,
that that was weird. And he's like, yeah, went running
off in the woods. I'm getting out of here. I
was like, oh, that's super weird. I didn't think anything
of it at the time, and I was like, all right, well,
(05:27):
see you later. When I kept walking up the hill
and when I get to the top of this hill,
so this guy would have just came through this area.
At the top of this hill, maybe five minutes later,
maybe I start hearing what sounds like a turkey call.
You know, it's definitely something trying to sound like a turkey,
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but I knew it wasn't a turkey. Like I could
just tell, yeah, it was almost like it was like
a person, another hunter, trying to sound like a turkey. Uh.
I was like, that's that's super weird. You know, there's
there's no other hunters. The only guy that ever that
I've ever seen throughout years of being up here was
this guy. He just left. So I don't you know,
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this sounds like a person, but I don't think it's
another person. Now, there are some people from New York
who owned some property up there, but I've never seen them.
I was like, maybe maybe this is them, you know,
dicking around or messing around or something. And as I
kept so, I kept walking up the road, this trail,
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and you know, as I was the further the closer
I got to the sound, the more it started sounding
like a growl. So it it went from like turkey
kind of turkey, sort of turkey, you know, kind of
a growl, sort of a growl, full on growling. At
that point, I was like, what is going on? I
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had my uh my wife's got a brother who's who's
way younger than she is, and he was with me.
He was like ten years older something like that, eleven
twelve years old. And I pulled out a handgun and
I give it to him. I'm like, dude, hang on
to this. I don't know what's going on. Like, I
was full on panic mode and I had my rifle,
like I had my rifle at a sidearm and yeah,
(07:16):
and I was I was. I was panicking. I was like,
this is not right. There's some something. You know, something's
going on here. This has never happened to me up
there before. And tell where it was coming from. It
was this thicket of young growth. My uncle had had
just logged the area, so there were little saplings growing up.
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I can't see through it, but I could. I could.
I knew that's where the sound was coming from. And
then from behind me, I hear a thud free knock,
and I was like, that is super, super weird. You know.
I'd always assumed that this was just you know, tree
knocks are fake that you're gonna see on TV fighting
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big Foot or whatever like this, this doesn't really happen.
But I swear to God, it happened, and it got
my attention, and then whatever was in that thicket got
out of there. At that point, the dread filled me
and I was like, we got to go. And I
just turned around and left when I had my my
hunting rifle with me. I was fully loaded. I shouldn't
(08:25):
have been panicking or afraid of an animal, I mean,
but I was. Yeah, And I never saw anything that day,
but it had to have been a sasquatch. If it
was another hunter, then then he was playing a fast
and loose because I could have easily just pointed and
pulled the trigger. Absolutely that whatever was in there, man, that's.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
My that's your that's your solitary sasquatch story.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Mm.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
That's a good one though.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah. I mean I never saw I didn't see it,
but I've got like corroborating evidence that something's there and
it's only there like fall to spring. So I've had
My aunt has told me about hearing what she thought
was a cow in the middle of the woods, and
(09:22):
the guy that was walking down the hell obviously heard this.
And I've never talked to about this, but he had
obviously heard this, and I think this is why he
was getting out of there, and that bobcat that jumped
over him was probably spooked by whatever this was and
was getting out of there too, right.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Absolutely, Yeah, I was gonna ask you that if anyone
else has had any encounters there as well.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Hmm. I think there's a video on one of the
few videos that are that's on there about a Sasquatch
kill site, and that is where I had my encounter,
and it I had walked up there a few months
after this this had happened, was like January, and there
was a deer that had been totally stripped of its hair.
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Whatever had done this had had propped the deer up
against the fallen log, pulled all the hair off of it.
There wasn't a lot of blood, I would have you know,
I've seen coyotes and what they can do, and there's
like blood and gore and just it's a mess. And
this was a mess, but there was like very very
little blood. There was no carcass anywhere, and nothing left
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of it. I would you know coyotes they leave bones
and just like pieces behind. There was nothing. And I
tried to follow this this, you know, the trail. I
would see like a piece of hair here, a broken
stick here, and it was all it was. It was
like something had picked this up and walked off up
the mountain and with it. I brought my dog up
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and she was freaked out and I set my camera up,
my trail camera, but I never got anything. But I
honestly think that that a sasquatch. I'd killed a deer
right there and picked it up, brought it up the mountain.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, possible, definitely, Yeah, I use I don't even use
trail cams. Well, I use them now for deer obviously,
I use them for what they're actually made for. We
have some out on a property up north. I got
to go get this weekend because it's hot in season
here now. But I use them as bigfoot deterrent actually,
(11:49):
because I think that they can see the infra red
or whatever. Either way, they're very adverse to being photographed
or videoed, right, So I'm like, well, what better way
to keep your campsite safe? Then film everything right and
then you won't have to worry about it. So I
set cameras out whenever we do our research trips and stuff,
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and a night, once we get ready to go to bed,
I turn everything on. And we've never had an incident
since I started doing that. Otherwise we've had some incidents
where things came into the camp. So oh well yeah, yeah,
just annoying, and you know you won't to be able
to sleep, So now I just turn those on. And
(12:34):
we also have a driveway alarms, you know, like the
the things that will go dang down, you know, you
know what I'm talking about, Sue driveway alerts. We use
those as well.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
So either I'm definitely not. I would say I want
to go and investigate, but I don't. I haven't done
anything like that. I went on a ghost on. I
followed along on a ghost on last year for yeah,
Halloween special I did, And that was as close as
I got to any sort of investigation.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Doing any in first and investigations. Yeah, well, how was that?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Uh? It was? It was interesting. It was at a
state park reportably haunted. They had invited me. I had
done a video at like a TikTok video or something
on it and they had seen it and they invited
me to do this thing. And I put on this
little show, and then afterwards I had a ghost hunting
team that I've done work with in the past come
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and do an investigation. I followed along and there was
a point there where I had I we had been
getting some activity on this trail and happened to turn
like this to my side, and this white figure rushed
like bum rushed me. It's just like, oh, I was
like whoa, and then I was the only one who
(13:59):
saw it. But it was like it was it was white,
like it was shining, it was it was super weird.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Wow. Yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah. But uh.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So where the title almost Cannon come by? It's clever, clever,
very clever.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah. I actually don't really know if I used to
have a co host way back in the day and
it was something he had thought of. But it's like,
you know, like Cannon the official story and this stuff
is like almost it's.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Almost a little off beat, right Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
So when you when did you start the show? You
said you used to have a co host too.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Oh yeah, I feel like it's been years at this point,
like two years ago maybe something like that.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Dude, when you started it, did you invent in it
like as storytelling, investigation something in between, or just a
way to like just talk about stuff that hits you.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah. I was originally supposed to be like this was
a non believer. He didn't believe in any of this stuff,
so I was gonna like try and convince him of
some weird things. Then it just evolved into a complete
ship show. He just quit quit one day and just
(15:33):
he quit his job. I worked with him. He just
packed up and left and that was that was that.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, so do you what's what's your main spot? Like?
Is it audio?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
So you have some presence on YouTube, but it's not
it's not.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Like, yeah, I'm not, I'm not like I guess I
really had him come on because he was in a band,
he had all the equipment and he knew what he
was doing. I have no idea what I'm doing, right.
I really even figured out how to upload videos onto
YouTube with like like hour two hour long videos with
(16:24):
pictures and other other than going through and doing everything
that takes hours to do, there's got to be a
fast away. I don't know how to do it. Yeah,
so I have not. I like recorded like two hours
of nothing except my logo and I was just gonna
like put that up and then tas audio over that.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, that's something that's a way that you can do
it too. That's what I did initially in the first
podcast I ever did. That's how we because we we
were audio only, so literally we had our logo up
and we would just put the audio over that, and
(17:11):
you know there's like I don't know how many episodes
of the podcast of not this podcast, old podcast, but
that was like twenty fourteen. So yeah, man, and so
that's how we did a lot of our stuff. I
don't even think this is really the first podcast that
(17:33):
I've ever done that that was most it was both
audio and video, and this one of course, because what
it's what I was used to started is just audio
and I had a picture like I do, like you know,
if you go back to like episode one or two,
that's how it is.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
So I do the videos, I do the video stuff.
But notes, dude, I'm a notes guy. I'm constantly editing
stuff in my in my show, on my video. There'd
be like I'd have to edit so much stuff and
to match that with audio, I don't know how to
(18:10):
have to go about doing that other than doing it twice.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
But yeah, so I'm not very technical. I don't have time.
I've got three kids, I've got a full time, full
time job.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah I get it.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
So yeah, i'd like to have a bigger YouTube presence,
and I mean I'm slowly working on it, but.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, you'll get there. It's possible, right.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, so you've you've what's what's the favorite topic that
you've covered on the podcast, Like what's your what's your
main like source of like research now or do you
just go down all kinds of different rabbit holes.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Well, definitely cryptids is probably the most popular that people
I get the most downloads and listens and stuff, but
it's actually not my favorite. It's my second favorite. I'm
a huge fan of like ancient civilizations and like lost
treasure and things like that. But people don't, I don't know,
don't don't seem to like it as much as I do.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, No, I love that stuff too, and I always
like weaving in like the religious aspects of it as well,
you know, and how religious rhyme, how everything rhymes.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
So that's like with my podcast, I have a whole
part that I have well, Sunday is just the Bible.
It's the supernatural parts of the Bible.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Wow, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And then you know you can take that and run
with it. So definitely, and anything folklore right or like
like ah, what the hell do they call them? Like
the pantheons, like Egyptians or the or those the Greeks,
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the mythology just run with it.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that they'd all
eyes together somehow. I like, if they're you know, the
these lesser gods, or they're like the the Nephilom. I've
had Gary Wayne on my show Wisdom on On on
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the Fay. I was huge on the Fay at one point,
and I was quizzing him on the Fay, and I
mean the way he explains it, there's no there's definitely
enough information out there to suggest that that these these
Nephilim giants, they they traveled the world and they made
up all these these uh not mono theistic, but the
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polytheistic religions. They became all these different gods that we know.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah that all the blood lines and everything, yep, yeah, sure, yep.
And if you notice the all the the majority of
all the those religions, those polytheistic religions, they all rhyme.
They're very similar.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
And so it's like it makes you think.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Well, yeah, there's definitely something connecting all of.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
It, Yeah, for sure. And I think it's just the
stories of the you know, the watchers and then the
other whatever what you would call elohem, you know, the
lesser gods are little g gods, right, yeah, I think yeah, Actually.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
It all plays in you. You would talk Sar. You
had talked about getting excited here. You had talked about
when I first, I don't even know if we were recording,
and I forget chaotic water, and this is where chaotic
water comes into play. And it's super interesting and how
it deals with primordial beings and connects all these these
religions together. It's super strange. There's something And I've been
(21:58):
getting super into what happened before Genesis, like there was
something going on before Genesis agreed, And I've been trying
to dig into that lately.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
And that's hard because there's not a lot, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yeah, I found one book. I think it's called Before Genesis.
I forget the author. I've tried to get her. I
sent her a message, but I never heard back from her.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
So what do you think is going on?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Oh? Man, I I have no idea. I definitely think it.
It's got something to do with with dimensions, different dimensions.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, I mean I think it was. There's got to
do something with it. Also, the cosmic cosmic war prior
to Genesis.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Right right, Yeah, And I guess that that's I would
include that in the dimension stuff, like like all these
dimensions and they all have these different different powers that
rule them, and they're all at war at some point.
And I mean, I don't really know how to explain it.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
You just feel in your gut this is how it was, right.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
And I even think kind of comes into play in
a way here in Vermont within the Bennington Triangle.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yep, some mild stories out of there, man.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's probably when when you think
of the paranormal in Vermont, there's really the only think
of like Emily's Bridge, the Northfield pig Man seems to
be pretty popular nowadays, and the Benning can Triangle. Those
are like our most popular you know, paranormal things, and
(23:59):
of them, probably Benning Contrine was the most well known.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, tell tell a story out of there if you kid.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah. I actually got a couple like personal stories from
people because I've done a lot of you know work,
I guess you could say with the Benning Contriangle. And
one of one of the stories I got was an
early early story. And I've always loved this story. It's
super creepy and it kind of blew my mind when
I first heard it and it was his dude. It
(24:29):
was It was early December, late November. He was up
on Gladston Burry Mountain. This is at the center of
the triangle, this Glastonbury Mountain, and he was up there.
He was cutting like evergreens to make Christmas Christmas reads,
(24:50):
you know, you guys, chainsaw running and over his chainsaw,
he heard somebody yelling for help, you know, in the distance.
It was he heard a woman yelling for help, like
and he was like, what was that? Did I hear something?
And he's like, no, I didn't hear anything. He's running
his chainsaw again and he hears it again. He's like, okay,
I definitely, I definitely heard something. So he turns his
(25:13):
chainsaw off, gets down out of the tree. He got permission,
and I don't know where he was on the mountain,
exactly up in the mountain in the middle of nowhere,
and the person's yelling for help, and then he hears
this lady yelling for help, you know, chainsaws off. So
he's like, there's definitely someone out here, and he kind
(25:37):
of you know, goes off into the woods and he
can hear her yelling for help, but he doesn't seem
to be getting closer. It's just it's just like keeps
getting equal distance away from him. But he doesn't think
anything at the time about that. He keeps going and
he reaches this swampy area, comes to the edge of
the swampy area up on the mountain somewhere, and ears
(26:01):
are yelling for help, and it's coming from inside the
swamp somewhere. You can't see her, you know, it's in
the swamp somewhere. He's like, well, this is super weird.
And then all of a sudden, he says, the mountain
sounded had come alive. He said the mountain had come alive,
(26:23):
Like there was heavy machinery within the mountain that had
just powered on, and it was coming from all around him.
Love him. He was like, I was so freaked out.
I just I got the hell out of there. But
I don't know, it's super weird story. I never really
knew what to think about it. Yeah, but I've got
(26:43):
like sasquatch stories of people being followed through the woods,
people hearing them. I've got it. Seems to be. I
seem to get a lot of strange weather. We're out
of nowhere, these storms just come in and they seem
to dry people out of certain areas and then once
they're out of that area that the storm is just gone.
(27:05):
I got a missing I got a time slip story
a couple of months ago from someone that was super weird.
And those are just the stories I've got. I mean,
there there's there's been missing people back in the fifties.
They're forty five through fifty. There are five people who
went missing, but there was even more people who went
(27:27):
missing before then that don't seem to really get the
acknowledgment that they deserve, especially because of one of them.
Go ahead, I was gonna say, because one of them
is super weird.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, I was gonna say, do you think they're linked?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I do? I do, I do. I have a I
have a theory that that I'm trying to I'm trying
to get started. I'm trying to get people to listen
to that I've never heard anywhere. I was actually on
I was interviewed on a Small Town Monsters. They came
and did a show on it. It hasn't aired yet,
but I was on that and I I I do
(28:11):
have a theory. I mean, I do think they're connected.
And it's one thought it was like cryptids maybe or
like Missing Forward one stuff, but it's much more sinister
than that.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Do you think it's much more sinister than that?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, And and that's maybe it is
Missing Forward one, depending on how you interpret what is
going on with that. Definitely, I think there's there's somebody
behind it. And the dates. I'll get into it if
you want it. Yeah, go ahead, man, Yeah, yeah. So
(28:51):
Ian can triangle here in Vermont. And there was a
point in time nineteen forty two and eighteen fifty seven
people went missing, but there's really only five that get
and they went missing from nineteen forty five to nineteen
fifty and that would be this dude named Middy Rivers.
(29:16):
He went missing on November twelfth, nineteen forty five, and
he's the kind of the first one that gets attention.
And he was a hunting He was a seventy four
year old hunting guide who was bringing this group out
in this area of the four is called Dickford Hollow.
This place pops up an awful lot in triangle lore.
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He was leading this group back to camp and he
wanted to get a head start, so he went ahead
of this group you've never seen again. That was the
last time anyone saw him. They you know, nothing has ever,
no one's ever found anything of him except for a
single unspent just laying by a creek, you know that
(30:02):
this creek that went through the path. I found this
bullet and that was it. That's all it's ever been found. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
super weird. And then Paula Weldon is the second. She's
probably the most popular, Like people do just full episodes
on Call of Weldon. She went missing on December one,
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nineteen forty six, so you know, about a year later.
She was eighteen years old. She was a college student
from the Bennington College that I don't believe this college
is active anymore, but i've it recently closed and I
have been. I've got so many ghost stories out of
that college from people who went there. And I also
(30:45):
think there's a cult that comes out of that college.
But anyway, this lady missing, this girl, she was eighteen
years old, she was a sophomore. She was last seen
by an older couple, like she had randomly just like
was like I'm going to go on a hike of
December late it was late in the afternoon, Like nobody
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knows what she was thinking, and she was never seen again.
Nothing has ever been found of her. There is a
little bit of evidence that plays into my theory that
I really don't hear a lot of because it kind
of it plays out of a lot of people's paranormal
(31:29):
aspect of what they believe is going on. But I'll
get into that in a second. And then the next
dude who went missing is James Tedford, and this is
a super weird one. He went missing on December one,
nineteen forty nine, so exactly three years later, you know,
to the day, and he was he was on a
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bus heading from Saint Albans back to Bennington. He lived
at a soldier's home. He was a veteran of World
War One and he was coming back from Saint Albans
visiting family or something like that, and it said that
he just disappeared off the bus. No one ever saw
him get off the bus, like all his stuff was
(32:12):
left on the bus. But the only thing that's weird
about this is that his wasn't reported missing till a
week after. This is something you don't hear a lot of,
so people's memories might be messed up. Yeah, there's some
you know, but he's the third one. The next one
that went missing in this time frame is a little
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boy named Paul Jepson. He was eight years old. He
disappeared on October twelfth, nineteen fifty, and he had been
sitting his mom went to like they had pigs at
a town dump and his mom went to feed the
pigs and he was sitting in the truck and when
she got back to the truck, he was gone. Never
found anything of him again. We're like a strap racked him,
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you know, with dogs and stuff, to the edge of
a road, so he wasn't on the mountain close the
track through this roan. People think that someone you know
picked them up. Makes sense to me. Yeah. And the
next one who went missing was this lady named Freda Langer.
She went missing like three weeks after, sixteen days after
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October twenty eighth, nineteen fifty. What's interesting about Freeda Langer
is she's the only one who was ever found, and
she was found like seven months after she had gone missing.
I believe she was like found face down in Somerset Reservoir,
kind of like off where this river comes out of
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this reservoir. She was found like in that area, said
that she had drowned, but they had checked this area
she wasn't there, you know previously, which is kiny. This
is when you get into the missing for one stuff. Yeah,
and those are the main ones, and we hear a
lot about sorry I switched my page over here, but
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there were other people who went missing, now the main ones,
like I said, but there are two others that I
think really play into this whole thing. They don't get
the attention they deserve. And one of them is this
this little boy named Melvin Hills. And not much is
known about this kid at all other than he went
missing on October eighteenth, nineteen forty two. So it still
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plays in It's still October November December like in nineteen
forty two. So and the next one after him, and
this is the this is a super super weird one
is this dude named Carl Hendrick. Now, this guy went
missing on November eleventh, nineteen forty three. He you know,
(34:56):
he was hunting with I think his brother and his
cousin and and he didn't return to camp. They they
kind of were like, what's going on? And they couldn't
find him for three days. They ended up finding him
and he I've been squeezed to death. Something had squeezed him,
broke his ribs where his rib punctured his lungs, and
(35:17):
that is how he died. And there are stories that
say his rifle was bent and around like something id
dent it, and they they chalked it up to a
bear attack. That's that's what it's officially right that, that's
what it's officially named as those are them? Are those
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are the main question saying yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
And so are all these in the triangle?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah? Yeah, And you know, there's like there's stories that
there's forty people who have gone missing, but these are
really the only ones we do know. There was that
dude who went missing a two years ago, found after
you know, a day or two, and he reported some
weird things like he had just he had been up
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on the mountain before, you know, he was a local,
and he had just got completely lost, like something like
everything was foggy and he just got really confused. And yeah,
so a lot of people think like he was he
was on the edge of crossing this veil because the
mountain is considered cursed. The Abenaki who lived in the area.
(36:30):
They they they considered it cursed because the four winds
met at the summit. They would bury their dead on
the mountain, but they wouldn't actually you know, hunt or
settle on the mountain. And they had worn settlers to
not you know, don't go up there, don't don't you know,
don't stay up there. And it worked for a while.
(36:52):
I mean, Bennington was settled, and it took you know,
almost one hundred years for them to settle Blatston Bear,
but they, you know, they did eventually. They had turned
it into this logging town, cut down all the trees,
and when the trees were gone, they couldn't make any
(37:12):
more money because they had been like it was it
was a major charcoal port, so they were getting all
the charcoal for all these you know, you know, iron
kills and things like that. And then when the trees
dried up, they were like, oh, let's turn it into
a resort. So they they built that. They you know,
built a casino and a grand hotel and it only
lasted a year and there were no trees left. So
(37:34):
this huge flood came through and wiped everything out. They
had a tram that went up the mountain that was
gone and it turned into a ghost town, and it's
a ghost town today. There's you know, no buildings left,
but nations there. You know there it was a popping
town at one point. So there's like all these foundations
everywhere and that that's kind of like the Gladstonbury curse.
(37:57):
It got to them. But when I what really excites
me before I get into this, there are also Native
American Abanaki stories of a man eating stone on the mountain,
and I'd always interpreted this as a like like a portal, right,
(38:20):
like you're gonna step on the stone and you're gonna poof,
You're gonna go to another dimension. Like I like we
had briefly talked about earlier. This is where it all
kind of plays into this, and that the Abanaki's creator
deity resides at the summit of this mountain. His name
is is uh table Dac. It's very interesting character I've done.
(38:44):
I've done a lot of work on him. But well,
I'll stay away away from that right now because it's
kind of boring. But it at the same time it's
super interesting. It plays into a whole lot of of
like ancient civilizations. There's these mysterious stone carns up there.
We we have a group here in New England called MIRA,
it's New England Antiquities Research Association, and they go all
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around all these ancient sites, you know, like Viking is this? Viking?
What is this? They go all these sites and they
deemed these carns to be ancient, like the Abinaki didn't
build them. They say they could be upwards of a
thousand years old, if not more. Where are they They're
on the mountain, and they're on the summit of the mountain.
(39:27):
They're like five hundred feet below. Yeah. I've done some
work on that, and I searched everywhere I possibly could
define carns. So they're for people who don't know a
carn is like stacked stones, right, So yeah, and I
found carns that matched these stones coming out of Maine.
And there's an interesting parallel between Maine and in this
(39:52):
area because the Abenaki tribes that lived in Maine they
also worshiped this same god that lived supposedly at the
top of this mountain, but the other because the Abanaki
were part of a the Wabanaki Confederacy. So there's a
bunch of different tribes and but the other tribes, so
it was like the paneb Scot I believe they were called.
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They worshiped the same god as the Abanaki, but the
other tribes within this confederacy didn't. They worshiped the Great Spirit.
I don't know, it's super weird, gets kind of boring,
but at the same time, it's super there's something really
weird going on there.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, that's the stuff that ties everything together though, yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yeah, yeah. And and just I guess, just really quick,
there's a mountain in Maine. There's this I'm scared that's
said to live. It's like a thunderbird, and I want
to I want to say it's called Pomono the top
of my head. And supposedly this thunderbird is the pet
(40:55):
of So it's weird that the bird, the pet lives
in Maine and the god lives in Vermont, and these
two areas are connected. It's just I don't know some
of the weird going on there. But what I really
wanted to get into when it comes to the Bennington
Trila and my crazy theory, is that a lot of
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people don't like the idea that these people went missing
were you know, the victims of a serial killer. Like,
I don't like that idea either, really, and I try
to stay away from that for as long as I could.
But I think that there's something behind this. And there
is in the next town above Bennington, major town there is.
(41:42):
It's called There's a town called Manchester. And there's a
mountain in Manchester. There's a really rich town. There's a
mountain that overlooks Manchester Equinox. And there was this dude
who in He started doing this in nineteen thirty nine.
(42:02):
He began buying up huge tracks of land on this
mountain and his name. Now this is all. I don't
know if I can get in trouble for saying this.
You're not so I'm gonna say this is all allegedly
or this is this is something that I'm making up.
I don't know. I don't know if I can get
in trouble for this. His name was doctor Davidson, and
he was super super famous, popular guy and he was
(42:26):
like this super super smart chemist and he began buying
up all this land on now Equinox. This dude had
got his doctorate from Columbia University. He had worked he
had helped develop mustard gas in World War One and
(42:46):
he led he worked for this company called Union Carbide
and he led Union Carbides Manhattan Projects contract directly under Oppenheimer.
And he was developing some sort of way to enrich
uranium via a gaseous diffusion. I don't know if this
(43:09):
is what he was doing. This dude was super smart.
He was deep into these military contracts. This is where
it starts getting into some conspiracies. And he worked at
oak Ridge and he worked there for many, many years.
This is I don't know how deep into oak Ridge
you are, but there's a lot of weird things supposedly
coming out of there. So yeah, this dude, or before
(43:33):
he goes to oak Ridge, you know, he's buying up
tracks of land on this mountain. He's coming home, he's
buying up more land and he decides he wants to
build a ski resort on this mountain. So he he's
friends with the behind perhaps Blue Ribbons. He talks to
this guy, the owner with this company, like these guys
are friends. And he's talking to this guy and he's
(43:55):
like the dude, the Papskuy's like, you're not going to
get any snow up, Pierre, don't finish building this thing.
I don't even bother with a ski resort. But he
had already built a lodge on this mountain. There's this
huge building and it stood for many many years. Now,
(44:17):
while the building was never finished, it was finished enough
that people stayed in there. People lived in there, you know.
And while he was started building a paved road that
went all the way to the top of the mountain.
And I believe that finished in nineteen forty seven. And
while you know, these people who were building the road
were staying in this hotel or the lodge. This is
(44:42):
a lot of information and I'm trying to spit out
at once. Let's see, I wrote some dates down. So
nineteen forty seven he finished. It's called Skyline Drive. And
he had built this lodge in the early so right
around people start going missing in the Bencon Triangle. This
(45:04):
dude's building this lodge. Now in nineteen fifty, between nineteen
fifty and nineteen fifty two, doctor Davidson underwent this profound
spiritual transformation of some sort, like he's getting super spiritual
(45:24):
all of a sudden, right as people stop going missing
from the Bencon Triangle, you know. And in nineteen fifty three,
Davidson donate seven thousand acres this land to this mysterious
Catholic order of monks called the Carthulians. I can't pronounce it. Carthulians,
(45:52):
I think is what it's called. These guys they take
a vowel order, a vow of silence, They make wine,
and he donates all this land to these monks. They
in nineteen sixty to nineteen seventy, the Carthulians construct the
(46:12):
Charterhouse of Transfiguration on the western slope, you know, of
this area. And they're kind of they had been staying
in this lodge and they moved out of the lodge
and the mid nineteen sixties, early very early nineteen seventies,
(46:34):
so the lodge kind of it's getting no use anymore,
nineteen sixty five ish, no, you know, it becomes abandoned
and decrepit and it falls in eventually. Now, in the
mid two thousands, kind of hit the Internet that there
was a cryogenics lab on Mount Equinox. Yeah, let's see
(47:01):
if I can bring it up. Sorry, try and bring
something up here really quick.
Speaker 4 (47:10):
So I had heard of a Wikipedia entry that there
was cryogenics lab on the Mountain.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
It had gone out of business in the nineteen sixties,
so right right around the time that they shut down
this this ski lodge and that you know they were
they were freezing people who had high IQs. Was I was,
(47:44):
I guess the thing behind this cryogenic lab they were
they were working with with high IQ individuals. And there
was a Wikipedia page at some point. It's been deleted
since then, but I had gone on to chat GPT
and I had I tried to work some magic on there. Now,
I know chat GPT isn't the greatest thing to use,
(48:04):
but it can definitely search the web better than I
can about this thing. It says, I'm just gonna read
what it says really quick. I know we're running close
on time here, but it says there is an archived
mirror of this page that does include a section saying
an abandoned now collapsed tunnel boring dating to the mid
(48:29):
nineteen sixties would have provided access to a subterraining cryogenics receptacle.
A private Vermont based firm, renew Ink, had planned to
preserve the bodies. And then it kind of goes on.
I didn't get to see it all, but you had
this organization, you know, supposedly freezing these people that went
(48:52):
out of business right around the time that this key resort,
you know, becomes officially abandoned. All these dates kind of
they fit together very well. I think there's something going
on there. And the fact that this guy deep into
these military contracts, I don't think, especially out of Oak Ridge.
(49:13):
I don't think it's out of the question that they
were doing some really messed up experiments and his own
like secret lab, you know, within or beneath this this resort.
That's kind of my theory that I that I thought of.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Wow, I kind of like it though, I mean, it
definitely piques your interest. And by the way, chat GPT
is awesome. I don't care what people say. At the
end of the day, it's it's just a tool, right, so.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
Yeah, you can use it, right exactly, got to be
specific and ask certain questions. But I I mean, I
believe what it says. Somebody deleted this and it was
able to find this deleted Wikipedia entry, so.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, that's wild man oh man. Yeah, Bennington Triangle. See,
I love it. I just took like two pages worth
of notes because I love the native stuff as well.
So I live in Iroquois country, right, So there's so
(50:21):
many stories from that from that tribe, well, the six tribes,
seven tribes, right. Then I love to start looking into
other ones too, And I actually grew up in Connecticut.
There's a lot of stories out of there too. So, man,
you just opened up, You just opened up a can
(50:42):
of worms in my brain.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
I've done deep dives into this tall ball that God. Yeah,
and this super ancient, like six thousand year old. Even
before the Native American tribes were around, there was this
group of people called the Red Paint people who lived
(51:07):
in on like the main coast, and it kind of
plays into all that and how I believe that they
quite possibly were Venetians Cannonites who had come over here
and found one of these these these Nephilum. And then
Nephilum is Taba back and he's living in the Bennington
Triangle in Glasstonbury Mountain. Like he's sleeping, right, he's putting
(51:31):
off this energy and this weird stuff's happening. And there's
this cult that I had briefly mentioned, and they're connected
to this whole thing, and they're like trying to raise
him up.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
What the heck? I love it what is that the
Bennington Oh it's the cult that's at the college. Is
that what you were talking about?
Speaker 3 (51:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (51:53):
Yeah, wild man, I love it. I love it all.
So with things wrapping up, go ahead and give me.
So this is obviously the show is called broadcasting Seeds,
and it's about, you know, planting seeds in people's minds
(52:13):
so they can run with their their own stuff or whatever. Right,
So could you plant a seed in the audience's minds
for us? I mean it could be life lessons, it
can be about something that people need to look into whatever,
you know.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
All right, Yeah, so you know, we hear a lot
of the Benning Control, the Bridgewater Triangle, but we don't
really hear, you know, all these other triangles. People don't
really hear about the Bennington Triangle like it. I feel
like some people know about it, but a lot of
(52:50):
people don't. And I suggest that people go and they
just there's so many interesting stories out of there. I
don't like that one. Can I start over? I talked
enough about the Bennings and try I really think that
there is something that connects all of this, maybe not
(53:16):
all of it, but there is a connecting force behind this,
whether it is religion. Uh, whether it is dimensional, I
don't know. I have no idea, but things, it's it's
a lot, a lot deeper. There's something going on that's
a lot deeper than Yeah. I mean, even the stories
(53:43):
of Sasquatch being interdimensional, it's being able to travel, travel
between the spirit world and this world. You know it
it's just you. You you gotta look past all that.
You know, you got to look at the inner story.
You got to look past your biases. Because when you
(54:06):
do that, when when if you're like, no, it's a
it's an ape and right, and you know North America,
that's all it is, then you're you're you're throwing away
so much data and so so many different stories that
that you could learn something from. So I think it's
important that people really dig into these stories and try
(54:28):
not to get caught up in the weeds of it all.
Speaker 2 (54:32):
I agree, man, one thousand percent. It's uh for sure, people,
did you know, it's like we get into this because
my whole gateway was Sasquatch to the whole thing. I mean,
and as a kid, I had like a I had
a pretty hardcore experience when I was ten eleven, and
(54:53):
it just changed me forever, you know, and so uh,
it's those types of things like to people don't like
the WU or people don't like to dabble in the
supernatural side of it. I mean it even shows just
in you know, everyday life with like the Bible. People
don't want to hear it. They don't want to hear
(55:14):
the no no, no, no, no, we you know the supernatural.
As we get is that the you know, Jesus resurrected
and that's it. That's all I want to hear, right
right right right right, No, So I get it. Uh,
tell everybody where they can find you again.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (55:35):
My show's main. My podcast is audio. You're not going
to find it on YouTube. I do have some videos
on YouTube, but really like Apple podcast or Spotify or iHeartRadio,
you know, Andora whatever you if you listen to a
podcast on it, then I'm on that I do. I
(55:55):
do have a Facebook page where I poste in a
TikTok page and Instagram or I post a lot of
stuff that I don't post on the show, so it's
cool to check that stuff out. A lot of little
stories like five ten stories. I do a lot of
long foreign podcasts. You know, hour hour and a half
stuff like that. So you can find the podcast on
(56:16):
Apple or Spotify, a lot of the little little interesting
things on TikTok or Instagram, Facebook. Awesome that Almost Cannon
sorry almost Canon. Yeah, almost Cannon podcast.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Almost Cannon podcast. I'll make sure I put all the
links in the show notes too.
Speaker 3 (56:34):
Oh cool.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
Thanks for coming on, man, awesome stories. I love the
I love the I love the Bennington Triangle stuff. I
mean I've known about it for years, just never I've
just never made it over there, right, yeah. Yeah, I
mean I've gone to the you know, over it, to
the Triangle and Massachusetts, Yeah, the Bridgewater, the Bridgewater, trying
(57:00):
the Hackamuck Swamp and all that stuff, you know, But yeah,
Bennington's closer.
Speaker 3 (57:07):
We're coming up on the anniversary of the disappearances, so no,
you know, November December. Yeah, it'd be interesting to check
it out. I actually haven't even been there. I've been
in the Triangle, but not to the places where you know,
the people were last seen.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah right, so man, well, who knows, maybe maybe we'll
have to take a trip.
Speaker 3 (57:34):
Yeah, that'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (57:36):
Yeah for sure. All right, brother, enjoy your night and
thanks for coming.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
On, Yeah, no problem, thanks for having me.
Speaker 5 (57:43):
I was raised on maps and compizzla, steal my thel readiest,
time to quiet, too quiet to trust, like the earth
was holding his breath in and started to walk these
trails a hundred and read the stories, memorized the sun,
its bennington, whispers and pine and stones. But nothing prepares
(58:08):
you for being lone. No, then the ground spoke once,
not allowed, not fast, just heavy enough to stop prepair.
He wasn't a roy you was in screams.
Speaker 3 (58:26):
The study the trees to cut through me.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
You don't ask if your bravor arm sometimes forst just.
Speaker 5 (58:34):
Sells you along. I've turned my back. I chose to live,
left dancers there. I couldn't give somethings out there. I'll
want to be seen, just to fund In the trees
and the space in between.
Speaker 3 (58:55):
You can study disappearances.
Speaker 5 (58:57):
By the mild names called are deep in histories far
all hunters, hikers gone without trace, like the land itself
erased the place. I've read the theories, old and new,
magnetic lines, things passing through, but standing there hard in
my chest.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
Knowledge means nothing. When instincts has.
Speaker 5 (59:21):
Left, the dark fell coats, the silence spin like something new,
exactly where. When he was in a roario, was in
a screams to bud in the trees that cut through me.
Speaker 2 (59:37):
Fear, don't care what you think you know.
Speaker 5 (59:40):
Nature reminds you who.
Speaker 3 (59:41):
Was really in control.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
I turned my fast, I chose.
Speaker 5 (59:45):
To live, left answers there. I couldn't give some.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
Things out there or wanna be seen, just to boot
in the trees, in a space in between. Maybe it
(01:00:10):
was nothing, maybe it was more.
Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
Maybe I'll keep secrets when up you for any more.
Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Every culture tells the same old tail, places where the braves.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Still fall on, not ele, not come just ordered in time.
Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
He was in a roar, was in a scream, just
the third in the trees that followed me.
Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
You don't run.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Because you bec scared.
Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
You run because something else was there.
Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Ill still he when the night goes still and the
wind drops over against the song, question, state with the ball.
Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
Before the dawn.
Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
I lived with my birth in my.
Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Name in text.
Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
Some mysteries don't want you back.
Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
No proof, no sign, no.
Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
Victories, just the bud in the trees. You're still walking
with me
H broadcast seeds, broadcasting seeds, playing truth in the minds
(00:32):
of the people.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
All right, we are live, We'll not live recording life. Nick,
tell us who you are, what you do, and where
we can find you.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah. Sure, my name is Nick Willard. Uh. I live
here in Vermont, southern Vermont, a small little podcast called
Almost Cannon. Uh. And that's really it. I mean, I
I worked for the postal service. I spend most of
(01:07):
my time delivering mail. When I'm not doing that looking
stuff up.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I'm sure you take plenty of weird stuff as a
postal worker, though.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, oh yeah, nothing, nothing really cool yet, just like people.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
But yeah, what, so what first pulled you into the
world of like, you know, your podcast Almost Canon, you know, paranormal,
high strangeness, all the you know, supernatural whatever, because you
kind of touch on all of it. What got you
(01:45):
into this?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah? So, as far as I can remember, like, I've
always heard ghost or I guess it probably started all
with my aunts. She worked at a hospital, should always
tell spooky stories and talk about ghosts, like she had
an interest in ghosts. So that's where it started from that,
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and then it moved on to like cryptids and Bigfoot
after I watched a documentary in like nineteen ninety eight.
It's it's old school Discovery Discovery Channel doc on Bigfoot
way before like paranormal you know stuff, and was on
TV every now and then they'd throw in something on
(02:31):
like the Lockedness Monster or Bigfoot Ghosts and things like that,
and it really kicked off from there. I can remember
when the Internet was like first became accessible. I was
just like looking up Bigfoot encounters and printing them off
and I'd have folders, and I totally wanted to be
a cryptozoologist when I was a kid, and my interests
(02:56):
really never stopped there. But other than that, I have
plenty of ghosts encounters and I've had one what I
I didn't see anything, but I heard it and I
know it had to have been a sasquatch encounter.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Right. Where was that?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah? That was on my my grandparents. My family there
own a bunch of land on this mountain called Mount Equinu,
Mount Ephram Sorry, and I'm gonna be talking about Mount
Equinox later on, but this mountains called Mount Ephraim kind
of like by my house a little bit. My grandparents,
my family owned a bunch of land. I've always I've
(03:40):
always hunted up there for as long as I can remember,
you know, ever since I was a little kid, ten,
ten years old or whatever, and this it's always been
kind of weird, Like I don't know, it's always it's quiet,
it's super quiet.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
She got this weird feeling that you're being watched, something
I've always felt. And I would go up there as
a kid and just hang out in the woods, explore
and things like that. But my encounter happened in twenty
and seventeen on opening day of rifle season, and I was,
you know, I'm like, I'm not too big in the hunting.
(04:17):
I'll go out every year, but I'm not picking a
spot and sitting there for hours. I'm walking around. You know,
this is hunting my grandparents' land, only I don't really
go anywhere else. I'm not worried about getting shot by
someone else. And there's only one other dude who hunts
this this land, and I just so happened to meet
him this hill. There's this long hill halfway up the mountain.
(04:42):
There's this big, long hill. There's an old road that
goes he kind of bisects the property, goes all the
way to the top of the mountain, and I was
I'm starting shaking him. I was walking up that road
and as I'm going up the road, he's coming down
the road. Could tell like he was freaked out something
that just happened, and you could, I could just tell
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his face was white.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
He was like yeah, wow.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
And I was like, I was like, how's the hunting,
And he's like, oh, man, I don't I'm leaving. I
just had this bobcat jump over the top of me.
I was sitting behind this rock. I was like, oh,
that that was weird. And he's like, yeah, went running
off in the woods. I'm getting out of here. I
was like, oh, that's super weird. I didn't think anything
of it at the time, and I was like, all right, well,
(05:27):
see you later. When I kept walking up the hill
and when I get to the top of this hill,
so this guy would have just came through this area.
At the top of this hill, maybe five minutes later,
maybe I start hearing what sounds like a turkey call.
You know, it's definitely something trying to sound like a turkey,
(05:48):
but I knew it wasn't a turkey. Like I could
just tell, yeah, it was almost like it was like
a person, another hunter, trying to sound like a turkey. Uh.
I was like, that's that's super weird. You know, there's
there's no other hunters. The only guy that ever that
I've ever seen throughout years of being up here was
this guy. He just left. So I don't you know,
(06:09):
this sounds like a person, but I don't think it's
another person. Now, there are some people from New York
who owned some property up there, but I've never seen them.
I was like, maybe maybe this is them, you know,
dicking around or messing around or something. And as I
kept so, I kept walking up the road, this trail,
(06:31):
and you know, as I was the further the closer
I got to the sound, the more it started sounding
like a growl. So it it went from like turkey
kind of turkey, sort of turkey, you know, kind of
a growl, sort of a growl, full on growling. At
that point, I was like, what is going on? I
(06:52):
had my uh my wife's got a brother who's who's
way younger than she is, and he was with me.
He was like ten years older something like that, eleven
twelve years old. And I pulled out a handgun and
I give it to him. I'm like, dude, hang on
to this. I don't know what's going on. Like, I
was full on panic mode and I had my rifle,
like I had my rifle at a sidearm and yeah,
(07:16):
and I was I was. I was panicking. I was like,
this is not right. There's some something. You know, something's
going on here. This has never happened to me up
there before. And tell where it was coming from. It
was this thicket of young growth. My uncle had had
just logged the area, so there were little saplings growing up.
(07:38):
I can't see through it, but I could. I could.
I knew that's where the sound was coming from. And
then from behind me, I hear a thud free knock,
and I was like, that is super, super weird. You know.
I'd always assumed that this was just you know, tree
knocks are fake that you're gonna see on TV fighting
(08:03):
big Foot or whatever like this, this doesn't really happen.
But I swear to God, it happened, and it got
my attention, and then whatever was in that thicket got
out of there. At that point, the dread filled me
and I was like, we got to go. And I
just turned around and left when I had my my
hunting rifle with me. I was fully loaded. I shouldn't
(08:25):
have been panicking or afraid of an animal, I mean,
but I was. Yeah, And I never saw anything that day,
but it had to have been a sasquatch. If it
was another hunter, then then he was playing a fast
and loose because I could have easily just pointed and
pulled the trigger. Absolutely that whatever was in there, man, that's.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
My that's your that's your solitary sasquatch story.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Mm.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
That's a good one though.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah. I mean I never saw I didn't see it,
but I've got like corroborating evidence that something's there and
it's only there like fall to spring. So I've had
My aunt has told me about hearing what she thought
was a cow in the middle of the woods, and
(09:22):
the guy that was walking down the hell obviously heard this.
And I've never talked to about this, but he had
obviously heard this, and I think this is why he
was getting out of there, and that bobcat that jumped
over him was probably spooked by whatever this was and
was getting out of there too, right.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Absolutely, Yeah, I was gonna ask you that if anyone
else has had any encounters there as well.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Hmm. I think there's a video on one of the
few videos that are that's on there about a Sasquatch
kill site, and that is where I had my encounter,
and it I had walked up there a few months
after this this had happened, was like January, and there
was a deer that had been totally stripped of its hair.
(10:18):
Whatever had done this had had propped the deer up
against the fallen log, pulled all the hair off of it.
There wasn't a lot of blood, I would have you know,
I've seen coyotes and what they can do, and there's
like blood and gore and just it's a mess. And
this was a mess, but there was like very very
little blood. There was no carcass anywhere, and nothing left
(10:41):
of it. I would you know coyotes they leave bones
and just like pieces behind. There was nothing. And I
tried to follow this this, you know, the trail. I
would see like a piece of hair here, a broken
stick here, and it was all it was. It was
like something had picked this up and walked off up
the mountain and with it. I brought my dog up
(11:06):
and she was freaked out and I set my camera up,
my trail camera, but I never got anything. But I
honestly think that that a sasquatch. I'd killed a deer
right there and picked it up, brought it up the mountain.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, possible, definitely, Yeah, I use I don't even use
trail cams. Well, I use them now for deer obviously,
I use them for what they're actually made for. We
have some out on a property up north. I got
to go get this weekend because it's hot in season
here now. But I use them as bigfoot deterrent actually,
(11:49):
because I think that they can see the infra red
or whatever. Either way, they're very adverse to being photographed
or videoed, right, So I'm like, well, what better way
to keep your campsite safe? Then film everything right and
then you won't have to worry about it. So I
set cameras out whenever we do our research trips and stuff,
(12:14):
and a night, once we get ready to go to bed,
I turn everything on. And we've never had an incident
since I started doing that. Otherwise we've had some incidents
where things came into the camp. So oh well yeah, yeah,
just annoying, and you know you won't to be able
to sleep, So now I just turn those on. And
(12:34):
we also have a driveway alarms, you know, like the
the things that will go dang down, you know, you
know what I'm talking about, Sue driveway alerts. We use
those as well.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
So either I'm definitely not. I would say I want
to go and investigate, but I don't. I haven't done
anything like that. I went on a ghost on. I
followed along on a ghost on last year for yeah,
Halloween special I did, And that was as close as
I got to any sort of investigation.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Doing any in first and investigations. Yeah, well, how was that?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Uh? It was? It was interesting. It was at a
state park reportably haunted. They had invited me. I had
done a video at like a TikTok video or something
on it and they had seen it and they invited
me to do this thing. And I put on this
little show, and then afterwards I had a ghost hunting
team that I've done work with in the past come
(13:37):
and do an investigation. I followed along and there was
a point there where I had I we had been
getting some activity on this trail and happened to turn
like this to my side, and this white figure rushed
like bum rushed me. It's just like, oh, I was
like whoa, and then I was the only one who
(13:59):
saw it. But it was like it was it was white,
like it was shining, it was it was super weird.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Wow. Yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah. But uh.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So where the title almost Cannon come by? It's clever, clever,
very clever.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah. I actually don't really know if I used to
have a co host way back in the day and
it was something he had thought of. But it's like,
you know, like Cannon the official story and this stuff
is like almost it's.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Almost a little off beat, right Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
So when you when did you start the show? You
said you used to have a co host too.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Oh yeah, I feel like it's been years at this point,
like two years ago maybe something like that.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Dude, when you started it, did you invent in it
like as storytelling, investigation something in between, or just a
way to like just talk about stuff that hits you.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah. I was originally supposed to be like this was
a non believer. He didn't believe in any of this stuff,
so I was gonna like try and convince him of
some weird things. Then it just evolved into a complete
ship show. He just quit quit one day and just
(15:33):
he quit his job. I worked with him. He just
packed up and left and that was that was that.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, so do you what's what's your main spot? Like?
Is it audio?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
So you have some presence on YouTube, but it's not
it's not.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Like, yeah, I'm not, I'm not like I guess I
really had him come on because he was in a band,
he had all the equipment and he knew what he
was doing. I have no idea what I'm doing, right.
I really even figured out how to upload videos onto
YouTube with like like hour two hour long videos with
(16:24):
pictures and other other than going through and doing everything
that takes hours to do, there's got to be a
fast away. I don't know how to do it. Yeah,
so I have not. I like recorded like two hours
of nothing except my logo and I was just gonna
like put that up and then tas audio over that.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, that's something that's a way that you can do
it too. That's what I did initially in the first
podcast I ever did. That's how we because we we
were audio only, so literally we had our logo up
and we would just put the audio over that, and
(17:11):
you know there's like I don't know how many episodes
of the podcast of not this podcast, old podcast, but
that was like twenty fourteen. So yeah, man, and so
that's how we did a lot of our stuff. I
don't even think this is really the first podcast that
(17:33):
I've ever done that that was most it was both
audio and video, and this one of course, because what
it's what I was used to started is just audio
and I had a picture like I do, like you know,
if you go back to like episode one or two,
that's how it is.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
So I do the videos, I do the video stuff.
But notes, dude, I'm a notes guy. I'm constantly editing
stuff in my in my show, on my video. There'd
be like I'd have to edit so much stuff and
to match that with audio, I don't know how to
(18:10):
have to go about doing that other than doing it twice.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
But yeah, so I'm not very technical. I don't have time.
I've got three kids, I've got a full time, full
time job.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah I get it.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
So yeah, i'd like to have a bigger YouTube presence,
and I mean I'm slowly working on it, but.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, you'll get there. It's possible, right.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, so you've you've what's what's the favorite topic that
you've covered on the podcast, Like what's your what's your
main like source of like research now or do you
just go down all kinds of different rabbit holes.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Well, definitely cryptids is probably the most popular that people
I get the most downloads and listens and stuff, but
it's actually not my favorite. It's my second favorite. I'm
a huge fan of like ancient civilizations and like lost
treasure and things like that. But people don't, I don't know,
don't don't seem to like it as much as I do.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, No, I love that stuff too, and I always
like weaving in like the religious aspects of it as well,
you know, and how religious rhyme, how everything rhymes.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
So that's like with my podcast, I have a whole
part that I have well, Sunday is just the Bible.
It's the supernatural parts of the Bible.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Wow, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And then you know you can take that and run
with it. So definitely, and anything folklore right or like
like ah, what the hell do they call them? Like
the pantheons, like Egyptians or the or those the Greeks,
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the mythology just run with it.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that they'd all
eyes together somehow. I like, if they're you know, the
these lesser gods, or they're like the the Nephilom. I've
had Gary Wayne on my show Wisdom on On on
(20:25):
the Fay. I was huge on the Fay at one point,
and I was quizzing him on the Fay, and I
mean the way he explains it, there's no there's definitely
enough information out there to suggest that that these these
Nephilim giants, they they traveled the world and they made
up all these these uh not mono theistic, but the
(20:48):
polytheistic religions. They became all these different gods that we know.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah that all the blood lines and everything, yep, yeah, sure, yep.
And if you notice the all the the majority of
all the those religions, those polytheistic religions, they all rhyme.
They're very similar.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
And so it's like it makes you think.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Well, yeah, there's definitely something connecting all of.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
It, Yeah, for sure. And I think it's just the
stories of the you know, the watchers and then the
other whatever what you would call elohem, you know, the
lesser gods are little g gods, right, yeah, I think yeah, Actually.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
It all plays in you. You would talk Sar. You
had talked about getting excited here. You had talked about
when I first, I don't even know if we were recording,
and I forget chaotic water, and this is where chaotic
water comes into play. And it's super interesting and how
it deals with primordial beings and connects all these these
religions together. It's super strange. There's something And I've been
(21:58):
getting super into what happened before Genesis, like there was
something going on before Genesis agreed, And I've been trying
to dig into that lately.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
And that's hard because there's not a lot, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yeah, I found one book. I think it's called Before Genesis.
I forget the author. I've tried to get her. I
sent her a message, but I never heard back from her.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
So what do you think is going on?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Oh? Man, I I have no idea. I definitely think it.
It's got something to do with with dimensions, different dimensions.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, I mean I think it was. There's got to
do something with it. Also, the cosmic cosmic war prior
to Genesis.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Right right, Yeah, And I guess that that's I would
include that in the dimension stuff, like like all these
dimensions and they all have these different different powers that
rule them, and they're all at war at some point.
And I mean, I don't really know how to explain it.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
You just feel in your gut this is how it was, right.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
And I even think kind of comes into play in
a way here in Vermont within the Bennington Triangle.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yep, some mild stories out of there, man.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's probably when when you think
of the paranormal in Vermont, there's really the only think
of like Emily's Bridge, the Northfield pig Man seems to
be pretty popular nowadays, and the Benning can Triangle. Those
are like our most popular you know, paranormal things, and
(23:59):
of them, probably Benning Contrine was the most well known.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, tell tell a story out of there if you kid.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah. I actually got a couple like personal stories from
people because I've done a lot of you know work,
I guess you could say with the Benning Contriangle. And
one of one of the stories I got was an
early early story. And I've always loved this story. It's
super creepy and it kind of blew my mind when
I first heard it and it was his dude. It
(24:29):
was It was early December, late November. He was up
on Gladston Burry Mountain. This is at the center of
the triangle, this Glastonbury Mountain, and he was up there.
He was cutting like evergreens to make Christmas Christmas reads,
(24:50):
you know, you guys, chainsaw running and over his chainsaw,
he heard somebody yelling for help, you know, in the distance.
It was he heard a woman yelling for help, like
and he was like, what was that? Did I hear something?
And he's like, no, I didn't hear anything. He's running
his chainsaw again and he hears it again. He's like, okay,
I definitely, I definitely heard something. So he turns his
(25:13):
chainsaw off, gets down out of the tree. He got permission,
and I don't know where he was on the mountain,
exactly up in the mountain in the middle of nowhere,
and the person's yelling for help, and then he hears
this lady yelling for help, you know, chainsaws off. So
he's like, there's definitely someone out here, and he kind
(25:37):
of you know, goes off into the woods and he
can hear her yelling for help, but he doesn't seem
to be getting closer. It's just it's just like keeps
getting equal distance away from him. But he doesn't think
anything at the time about that. He keeps going and
he reaches this swampy area, comes to the edge of
the swampy area up on the mountain somewhere, and ears
(26:01):
are yelling for help, and it's coming from inside the
swamp somewhere. You can't see her, you know, it's in
the swamp somewhere. He's like, well, this is super weird.
And then all of a sudden, he says, the mountain
sounded had come alive. He said the mountain had come alive,
(26:23):
Like there was heavy machinery within the mountain that had
just powered on, and it was coming from all around him.
Love him. He was like, I was so freaked out.
I just I got the hell out of there. But
I don't know, it's super weird story. I never really
knew what to think about it. Yeah, but I've got
(26:43):
like sasquatch stories of people being followed through the woods,
people hearing them. I've got it. Seems to be. I
seem to get a lot of strange weather. We're out
of nowhere, these storms just come in and they seem
to dry people out of certain areas and then once
they're out of that area that the storm is just gone.
(27:05):
I got a missing I got a time slip story
a couple of months ago from someone that was super weird.
And those are just the stories I've got. I mean,
there there's there's been missing people back in the fifties.
They're forty five through fifty. There are five people who
went missing, but there was even more people who went
(27:27):
missing before then that don't seem to really get the
acknowledgment that they deserve, especially because of one of them.
Go ahead, I was gonna say, because one of them
is super weird.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, I was gonna say, do you think they're linked?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I do? I do, I do. I have a I
have a theory that that I'm trying to I'm trying
to get started. I'm trying to get people to listen
to that I've never heard anywhere. I was actually on
I was interviewed on a Small Town Monsters. They came
and did a show on it. It hasn't aired yet,
but I was on that and I I I do
(28:11):
have a theory. I mean, I do think they're connected.
And it's one thought it was like cryptids maybe or
like Missing Forward one stuff, but it's much more sinister
than that.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Do you think it's much more sinister than that?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, And and that's maybe it is
Missing Forward one, depending on how you interpret what is
going on with that. Definitely, I think there's there's somebody
behind it. And the dates. I'll get into it if
you want it. Yeah, go ahead, man, Yeah, yeah. So
(28:51):
Ian can triangle here in Vermont. And there was a
point in time nineteen forty two and eighteen fifty seven
people went missing, but there's really only five that get
and they went missing from nineteen forty five to nineteen
fifty and that would be this dude named Middy Rivers.
(29:16):
He went missing on November twelfth, nineteen forty five, and
he's the kind of the first one that gets attention.
And he was a hunting He was a seventy four
year old hunting guide who was bringing this group out
in this area of the four is called Dickford Hollow.
This place pops up an awful lot in triangle lore.
(29:38):
He was leading this group back to camp and he
wanted to get a head start, so he went ahead
of this group you've never seen again. That was the
last time anyone saw him. They you know, nothing has ever,
no one's ever found anything of him except for a
single unspent just laying by a creek, you know that
(30:02):
this creek that went through the path. I found this
bullet and that was it. That's all it's ever been found. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
super weird. And then Paula Weldon is the second. She's
probably the most popular, Like people do just full episodes
on Call of Weldon. She went missing on December one,
(30:24):
nineteen forty six, so you know, about a year later.
She was eighteen years old. She was a college student
from the Bennington College that I don't believe this college
is active anymore, but i've it recently closed and I
have been. I've got so many ghost stories out of
that college from people who went there. And I also
(30:45):
think there's a cult that comes out of that college.
But anyway, this lady missing, this girl, she was eighteen
years old, she was a sophomore. She was last seen
by an older couple, like she had randomly just like
was like I'm going to go on a hike of
December late it was late in the afternoon, Like nobody
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knows what she was thinking, and she was never seen again.
Nothing has ever been found of her. There is a
little bit of evidence that plays into my theory that
I really don't hear a lot of because it kind
of it plays out of a lot of people's paranormal
(31:29):
aspect of what they believe is going on. But I'll
get into that in a second. And then the next
dude who went missing is James Tedford, and this is
a super weird one. He went missing on December one,
nineteen forty nine, so exactly three years later, you know,
to the day, and he was he was on a
(31:49):
bus heading from Saint Albans back to Bennington. He lived
at a soldier's home. He was a veteran of World
War One and he was coming back from Saint Albans
visiting family or something like that, and it said that
he just disappeared off the bus. No one ever saw
him get off the bus, like all his stuff was
(32:12):
left on the bus. But the only thing that's weird
about this is that his wasn't reported missing till a
week after. This is something you don't hear a lot of,
so people's memories might be messed up. Yeah, there's some
you know, but he's the third one. The next one
that went missing in this time frame is a little
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boy named Paul Jepson. He was eight years old. He
disappeared on October twelfth, nineteen fifty, and he had been
sitting his mom went to like they had pigs at
a town dump and his mom went to feed the
pigs and he was sitting in the truck and when
she got back to the truck, he was gone. Never
found anything of him again. We're like a strap racked him,
(33:01):
you know, with dogs and stuff, to the edge of
a road, so he wasn't on the mountain close the
track through this roan. People think that someone you know
picked them up. Makes sense to me. Yeah. And the
next one who went missing was this lady named Freda Langer.
She went missing like three weeks after, sixteen days after
(33:25):
October twenty eighth, nineteen fifty. What's interesting about Freeda Langer
is she's the only one who was ever found, and
she was found like seven months after she had gone missing.
I believe she was like found face down in Somerset Reservoir,
kind of like off where this river comes out of
(33:47):
this reservoir. She was found like in that area, said
that she had drowned, but they had checked this area
she wasn't there, you know previously, which is kiny. This
is when you get into the missing for one stuff. Yeah,
and those are the main ones, and we hear a
lot about sorry I switched my page over here, but
(34:11):
there were other people who went missing, now the main ones,
like I said, but there are two others that I
think really play into this whole thing. They don't get
the attention they deserve. And one of them is this
this little boy named Melvin Hills. And not much is
known about this kid at all other than he went
missing on October eighteenth, nineteen forty two. So it still
(34:32):
plays in It's still October November December like in nineteen
forty two. So and the next one after him, and
this is the this is a super super weird one
is this dude named Carl Hendrick. Now, this guy went
missing on November eleventh, nineteen forty three. He you know,
(34:56):
he was hunting with I think his brother and his
cousin and and he didn't return to camp. They they
kind of were like, what's going on? And they couldn't
find him for three days. They ended up finding him
and he I've been squeezed to death. Something had squeezed him,
broke his ribs where his rib punctured his lungs, and
(35:17):
that is how he died. And there are stories that
say his rifle was bent and around like something id
dent it, and they they chalked it up to a
bear attack. That's that's what it's officially right that, that's
what it's officially named as those are them? Are those
(35:39):
are the main question saying yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
And so are all these in the triangle?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah? Yeah, And you know, there's like there's stories that
there's forty people who have gone missing, but these are
really the only ones we do know. There was that
dude who went missing a two years ago, found after
you know, a day or two, and he reported some
weird things like he had just he had been up
(36:10):
on the mountain before, you know, he was a local,
and he had just got completely lost, like something like
everything was foggy and he just got really confused. And yeah,
so a lot of people think like he was he
was on the edge of crossing this veil because the
mountain is considered cursed. The Abenaki who lived in the area.
(36:30):
They they they considered it cursed because the four winds
met at the summit. They would bury their dead on
the mountain, but they wouldn't actually you know, hunt or
settle on the mountain. And they had worn settlers to
not you know, don't go up there, don't don't you know,
don't stay up there. And it worked for a while.
(36:52):
I mean, Bennington was settled, and it took you know,
almost one hundred years for them to settle Blatston Bear,
but they, you know, they did eventually. They had turned
it into this logging town, cut down all the trees,
and when the trees were gone, they couldn't make any
(37:12):
more money because they had been like it was it
was a major charcoal port, so they were getting all
the charcoal for all these you know, you know, iron
kills and things like that. And then when the trees
dried up, they were like, oh, let's turn it into
a resort. So they they built that. They you know,
built a casino and a grand hotel and it only
lasted a year and there were no trees left. So
(37:34):
this huge flood came through and wiped everything out. They
had a tram that went up the mountain that was
gone and it turned into a ghost town, and it's
a ghost town today. There's you know, no buildings left,
but nations there. You know there it was a popping
town at one point. So there's like all these foundations
everywhere and that that's kind of like the Gladstonbury curse.
(37:57):
It got to them. But when I what really excites
me before I get into this, there are also Native
American Abanaki stories of a man eating stone on the mountain,
and I'd always interpreted this as a like like a portal, right,
(38:20):
like you're gonna step on the stone and you're gonna poof,
You're gonna go to another dimension. Like I like we
had briefly talked about earlier. This is where it all
kind of plays into this, and that the Abanaki's creator
deity resides at the summit of this mountain. His name
is is uh table Dac. It's very interesting character I've done.
(38:44):
I've done a lot of work on him. But well,
I'll stay away away from that right now because it's
kind of boring. But it at the same time it's
super interesting. It plays into a whole lot of of
like ancient civilizations. There's these mysterious stone carns up there.
We we have a group here in New England called MIRA,
it's New England Antiquities Research Association, and they go all
(39:07):
around all these ancient sites, you know, like Viking is this? Viking?
What is this? They go all these sites and they
deemed these carns to be ancient, like the Abinaki didn't
build them. They say they could be upwards of a
thousand years old, if not more. Where are they They're
on the mountain, and they're on the summit of the mountain.
(39:27):
They're like five hundred feet below. Yeah. I've done some
work on that, and I searched everywhere I possibly could
define carns. So they're for people who don't know a
carn is like stacked stones, right, So yeah, and I
found carns that matched these stones coming out of Maine.
And there's an interesting parallel between Maine and in this
(39:52):
area because the Abenaki tribes that lived in Maine they
also worshiped this same god that lived supposedly at the
top of this mountain, but the other because the Abanaki
were part of a the Wabanaki Confederacy. So there's a
bunch of different tribes and but the other tribes, so
it was like the paneb Scot I believe they were called.
(40:14):
They worshiped the same god as the Abanaki, but the
other tribes within this confederacy didn't. They worshiped the Great Spirit.
I don't know, it's super weird, gets kind of boring,
but at the same time, it's super there's something really
weird going on there.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, that's the stuff that ties everything together though, yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yeah, yeah. And and just I guess, just really quick,
there's a mountain in Maine. There's this I'm scared that's
said to live. It's like a thunderbird, and I want
to I want to say it's called Pomono the top
of my head. And supposedly this thunderbird is the pet
(40:55):
of So it's weird that the bird, the pet lives
in Maine and the god lives in Vermont, and these
two areas are connected. It's just I don't know some
of the weird going on there. But what I really
wanted to get into when it comes to the Bennington
Trila and my crazy theory, is that a lot of
(41:15):
people don't like the idea that these people went missing
were you know, the victims of a serial killer. Like,
I don't like that idea either, really, and I try
to stay away from that for as long as I could.
But I think that there's something behind this. And there
is in the next town above Bennington, major town there is.
(41:42):
It's called There's a town called Manchester. And there's a
mountain in Manchester. There's a really rich town. There's a
mountain that overlooks Manchester Equinox. And there was this dude
who in He started doing this in nineteen thirty nine.
(42:02):
He began buying up huge tracks of land on this
mountain and his name. Now this is all. I don't
know if I can get in trouble for saying this.
You're not so I'm gonna say this is all allegedly
or this is this is something that I'm making up.
I don't know. I don't know if I can get
in trouble for this. His name was doctor Davidson, and
he was super super famous, popular guy and he was
(42:26):
like this super super smart chemist and he began buying
up all this land on now Equinox. This dude had
got his doctorate from Columbia University. He had worked he
had helped develop mustard gas in World War One and
(42:46):
he led he worked for this company called Union Carbide
and he led Union Carbides Manhattan Projects contract directly under Oppenheimer.
And he was developing some sort of way to enrich
uranium via a gaseous diffusion. I don't know if this
(43:09):
is what he was doing. This dude was super smart.
He was deep into these military contracts. This is where
it starts getting into some conspiracies. And he worked at
oak Ridge and he worked there for many, many years.
This is I don't know how deep into oak Ridge
you are, but there's a lot of weird things supposedly
coming out of there. So yeah, this dude, or before
(43:33):
he goes to oak Ridge, you know, he's buying up
tracks of land on this mountain. He's coming home, he's
buying up more land and he decides he wants to
build a ski resort on this mountain. So he he's
friends with the behind perhaps Blue Ribbons. He talks to
this guy, the owner with this company, like these guys
are friends. And he's talking to this guy and he's
(43:55):
like the dude, the Papskuy's like, you're not going to
get any snow up, Pierre, don't finish building this thing.
I don't even bother with a ski resort. But he
had already built a lodge on this mountain. There's this
huge building and it stood for many many years. Now,
(44:17):
while the building was never finished, it was finished enough
that people stayed in there. People lived in there, you know.
And while he was started building a paved road that
went all the way to the top of the mountain.
And I believe that finished in nineteen forty seven. And
while you know, these people who were building the road
were staying in this hotel or the lodge. This is
(44:42):
a lot of information and I'm trying to spit out
at once. Let's see, I wrote some dates down. So
nineteen forty seven he finished. It's called Skyline Drive. And
he had built this lodge in the early so right
around people start going missing in the Bencon Triangle. This
(45:04):
dude's building this lodge. Now in nineteen fifty, between nineteen
fifty and nineteen fifty two, doctor Davidson underwent this profound
spiritual transformation of some sort, like he's getting super spiritual
(45:24):
all of a sudden, right as people stop going missing
from the Bencon Triangle, you know. And in nineteen fifty three,
Davidson donate seven thousand acres this land to this mysterious
Catholic order of monks called the Carthulians. I can't pronounce it. Carthulians,
(45:52):
I think is what it's called. These guys they take
a vowel order, a vow of silence, They make wine,
and he donates all this land to these monks. They
in nineteen sixty to nineteen seventy, the Carthulians construct the
(46:12):
Charterhouse of Transfiguration on the western slope, you know, of
this area. And they're kind of they had been staying
in this lodge and they moved out of the lodge
and the mid nineteen sixties, early very early nineteen seventies,
(46:34):
so the lodge kind of it's getting no use anymore,
nineteen sixty five ish, no, you know, it becomes abandoned
and decrepit and it falls in eventually. Now, in the
mid two thousands, kind of hit the Internet that there
was a cryogenics lab on Mount Equinox. Yeah, let's see
(47:01):
if I can bring it up. Sorry, try and bring
something up here really quick.
Speaker 4 (47:10):
So I had heard of a Wikipedia entry that there
was cryogenics lab on the Mountain.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
It had gone out of business in the nineteen sixties,
so right right around the time that they shut down
this this ski lodge and that you know they were
they were freezing people who had high IQs. Was I was,
(47:44):
I guess the thing behind this cryogenic lab they were
they were working with with high IQ individuals. And there
was a Wikipedia page at some point. It's been deleted
since then, but I had gone on to chat GPT
and I had I tried to work some magic on there. Now,
I know chat GPT isn't the greatest thing to use,
(48:04):
but it can definitely search the web better than I
can about this thing. It says, I'm just gonna read
what it says really quick. I know we're running close
on time here, but it says there is an archived
mirror of this page that does include a section saying
an abandoned now collapsed tunnel boring dating to the mid
(48:29):
nineteen sixties would have provided access to a subterraining cryogenics receptacle.
A private Vermont based firm, renew Ink, had planned to
preserve the bodies. And then it kind of goes on.
I didn't get to see it all, but you had
this organization, you know, supposedly freezing these people that went
(48:52):
out of business right around the time that this key resort,
you know, becomes officially abandoned. All these dates kind of
they fit together very well. I think there's something going
on there. And the fact that this guy deep into
these military contracts, I don't think, especially out of Oak Ridge.
(49:13):
I don't think it's out of the question that they
were doing some really messed up experiments and his own
like secret lab, you know, within or beneath this this resort.
That's kind of my theory that I that I thought of.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Wow, I kind of like it though, I mean, it
definitely piques your interest. And by the way, chat GPT
is awesome. I don't care what people say. At the
end of the day, it's it's just a tool, right, so.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
Yeah, you can use it, right exactly, got to be
specific and ask certain questions. But I I mean, I
believe what it says. Somebody deleted this and it was
able to find this deleted Wikipedia entry, so.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, that's wild man oh man. Yeah, Bennington Triangle. See,
I love it. I just took like two pages worth
of notes because I love the native stuff as well.
So I live in Iroquois country, right, So there's so
(50:21):
many stories from that from that tribe, well, the six tribes,
seven tribes, right. Then I love to start looking into
other ones too, And I actually grew up in Connecticut.
There's a lot of stories out of there too. So, man,
you just opened up, You just opened up a can
(50:42):
of worms in my brain.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
I've done deep dives into this tall ball that God. Yeah,
and this super ancient, like six thousand year old. Even
before the Native American tribes were around, there was this
group of people called the Red Paint people who lived
(51:07):
in on like the main coast, and it kind of
plays into all that and how I believe that they
quite possibly were Venetians Cannonites who had come over here
and found one of these these these Nephilum. And then
Nephilum is Taba back and he's living in the Bennington
Triangle in Glasstonbury Mountain. Like he's sleeping, right, he's putting
(51:31):
off this energy and this weird stuff's happening. And there's
this cult that I had briefly mentioned, and they're connected
to this whole thing, and they're like trying to raise
him up.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
What the heck? I love it what is that the
Bennington Oh it's the cult that's at the college. Is
that what you were talking about?
Speaker 3 (51:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (51:53):
Yeah, wild man, I love it. I love it all.
So with things wrapping up, go ahead and give me.
So this is obviously the show is called broadcasting Seeds,
and it's about, you know, planting seeds in people's minds
(52:13):
so they can run with their their own stuff or whatever. Right,
So could you plant a seed in the audience's minds
for us? I mean it could be life lessons, it
can be about something that people need to look into whatever,
you know.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
All right, Yeah, so you know, we hear a lot
of the Benning Control, the Bridgewater Triangle, but we don't
really hear, you know, all these other triangles. People don't
really hear about the Bennington Triangle like it. I feel
like some people know about it, but a lot of
(52:50):
people don't. And I suggest that people go and they
just there's so many interesting stories out of there. I
don't like that one. Can I start over? I talked
enough about the Bennings and try I really think that
there is something that connects all of this, maybe not
(53:16):
all of it, but there is a connecting force behind this,
whether it is religion. Uh, whether it is dimensional, I
don't know. I have no idea, but things, it's it's
a lot, a lot deeper. There's something going on that's
a lot deeper than Yeah. I mean, even the stories
(53:43):
of Sasquatch being interdimensional, it's being able to travel, travel
between the spirit world and this world. You know it
it's just you. You you gotta look past all that.
You know, you got to look at the inner story.
You got to look past your biases. Because when you
(54:06):
do that, when when if you're like, no, it's a
it's an ape and right, and you know North America,
that's all it is, then you're you're you're throwing away
so much data and so so many different stories that
that you could learn something from. So I think it's
important that people really dig into these stories and try
(54:28):
not to get caught up in the weeds of it all.
Speaker 2 (54:32):
I agree, man, one thousand percent. It's uh for sure, people,
did you know, it's like we get into this because
my whole gateway was Sasquatch to the whole thing. I mean,
and as a kid, I had like a I had
a pretty hardcore experience when I was ten eleven, and
(54:53):
it just changed me forever, you know, and so uh,
it's those types of things like to people don't like
the WU or people don't like to dabble in the
supernatural side of it. I mean it even shows just
in you know, everyday life with like the Bible. People
don't want to hear it. They don't want to hear
(55:14):
the no no, no, no, no, we you know the supernatural.
As we get is that the you know, Jesus resurrected
and that's it. That's all I want to hear, right
right right right right, No, So I get it. Uh,
tell everybody where they can find you again.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (55:35):
My show's main. My podcast is audio. You're not going
to find it on YouTube. I do have some videos
on YouTube, but really like Apple podcast or Spotify or iHeartRadio,
you know, Andora whatever you if you listen to a
podcast on it, then I'm on that I do. I
(55:55):
do have a Facebook page where I poste in a
TikTok page and Instagram or I post a lot of
stuff that I don't post on the show, so it's
cool to check that stuff out. A lot of little
stories like five ten stories. I do a lot of
long foreign podcasts. You know, hour hour and a half
stuff like that. So you can find the podcast on
(56:16):
Apple or Spotify, a lot of the little little interesting
things on TikTok or Instagram, Facebook. Awesome that Almost Cannon
sorry almost Canon. Yeah, almost Cannon podcast.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Almost Cannon podcast. I'll make sure I put all the
links in the show notes too.
Speaker 3 (56:34):
Oh cool.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
Thanks for coming on, man, awesome stories. I love the
I love the I love the Bennington Triangle stuff. I
mean I've known about it for years, just never I've
just never made it over there, right, yeah. Yeah, I
mean I've gone to the you know, over it, to
the Triangle and Massachusetts, Yeah, the Bridgewater, the Bridgewater, trying
(57:00):
the Hackamuck Swamp and all that stuff, you know, But yeah,
Bennington's closer.
Speaker 3 (57:07):
We're coming up on the anniversary of the disappearances, so no,
you know, November December. Yeah, it'd be interesting to check
it out. I actually haven't even been there. I've been
in the Triangle, but not to the places where you know,
the people were last seen.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah right, so man, well, who knows, maybe maybe we'll
have to take a trip.
Speaker 3 (57:34):
Yeah, that'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (57:36):
Yeah for sure. All right, brother, enjoy your night and
thanks for coming.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
On, Yeah, no problem, thanks for having me.
Speaker 5 (57:43):
I was raised on maps and compizzla, steal my thel readiest,
time to quiet, too quiet to trust, like the earth
was holding his breath in and started to walk these
trails a hundred and read the stories, memorized the sun,
its bennington, whispers and pine and stones. But nothing prepares
(58:08):
you for being lone. No, then the ground spoke once,
not allowed, not fast, just heavy enough to stop prepair.
He wasn't a roy you was in screams.
Speaker 3 (58:26):
The study the trees to cut through me.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
You don't ask if your bravor arm sometimes forst just.
Speaker 5 (58:34):
Sells you along. I've turned my back. I chose to live,
left dancers there. I couldn't give somethings out there. I'll
want to be seen, just to fund In the trees
and the space in between.
Speaker 3 (58:55):
You can study disappearances.
Speaker 5 (58:57):
By the mild names called are deep in histories far
all hunters, hikers gone without trace, like the land itself
erased the place. I've read the theories, old and new,
magnetic lines, things passing through, but standing there hard in
my chest.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
Knowledge means nothing. When instincts has.
Speaker 5 (59:21):
Left, the dark fell coats, the silence spin like something new,
exactly where. When he was in a roario, was in
a screams to bud in the trees that cut through me.
Speaker 2 (59:37):
Fear, don't care what you think you know.
Speaker 5 (59:40):
Nature reminds you who.
Speaker 3 (59:41):
Was really in control.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
I turned my fast, I chose.
Speaker 5 (59:45):
To live, left answers there. I couldn't give some.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
Things out there or wanna be seen, just to boot
in the trees, in a space in between. Maybe it
(01:00:10):
was nothing, maybe it was more.
Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
Maybe I'll keep secrets when up you for any more.
Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Every culture tells the same old tail, places where the braves.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Still fall on, not ele, not come just ordered in time.
Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
He was in a roar, was in a scream, just
the third in the trees that followed me.
Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
You don't run.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Because you bec scared.
Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
You run because something else was there.
Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Ill still he when the night goes still and the
wind drops over against the song, question, state with the ball.
Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
Before the dawn.
Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
I lived with my birth in my.
Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Name in text.
Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
Some mysteries don't want you back.
Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
No proof, no sign, no.
Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
Victories, just the bud in the trees. You're still walking
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