Hybrid Agendas, Soul Traps & Canaanite Codes | w/ The Biblical Hitmen - The Broadcasting Seeds Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, I'm here with Stephen and Jesse from the Biblical
hit Man.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Gentlemen, how are you good? Good? Start with which one
you on?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
You guys, cheers? But tell us who you are and
what you do.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Rock paper, scissor shoot? Go ahead, Jesse, all right, I
want to go ahead. Name I'll be I'll be the
adult here go ahead. Yeah, my name is Jesse. I
am a residential plumber out in Las Vegas, and we
are The Biblical hit Manure we're pretty fresh in the game.
But yeah, man, we're we're really enjoying the podcast community.

(01:28):
We're going to the Brohemium Groves. We got invited that
that's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
And we talked about that last week.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, and I bought my tickets today, so there we go. Boom.
I bought my flight tickets to Leesburg or to Orlando,
so that's going to be a blast. But yeah, man,
off to you, Stevie. I don't want to take up
too much time.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
No, Yeah, I'm Steven and you know, I'm one of
the hosts of The Biblical hit Man. You can find
our show on YouTube. The Biblical Hitman on YouTube pretty
much on everything Instagram, x, Facebook and Instagram. You can
check us out there. But for myself, I'm a career
fireman here in the Central Florida area and I do
that full time and I also podcast full time. And

(02:08):
you know, life's been great. It's been fun. The journey
of you know, starting a podcast and kind of getting
in the game and getting in the mix, you know,
with with the community that you know, pretty much put
your show's about, you know, what we like to talk about.
It's all kind of like you know, has a lot
of connections and similarities and stuff. But man, it's been

(02:28):
a lot of fun. It's a lot of work. And
I tipped my hat to the guys that've been doing
it longer than we've been doing it, because you know,
it's incredible work and dedication and it's fun.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, Stevie's been stealing your broadcasting seeds term a lot lately.
I've noticed we're broadcasting seeds Bro's.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
For her man. That's what I was there for. You know.
It's an awesome name, man, you know, and we talked
about so many topics, you know, with you know, with
your show and other shows and everything, and it just
kind of throws a little golden nugget out there to people,
and you know, tickles the curiosity to go research it
themselves and then they'll end.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I mean, at some point you got to harvest those seeds, right,
But and that's what the knowledge is.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
So you plant them, let them grow, and you know,
exactly rep yourself. Right.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, so where did the name Biblical hit men come?

Speaker 4 (03:27):
I'll let CEV take that one away that was all him.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
It's funny because when we first started out, when we
all because we're missing Taylor, Taylor's he's our He's our
third guy. And really me and Jesse started a well,
we had we were a part of a different show,
you know, talked about similar things, just outside of a
biblical lens, but we were we were a part of
the post podcast scheme a little bit. And this was

(03:53):
probably like four years ago or so, and you know,
things just kind of fell through again. Like going through
the those experiences, you start seeing how it is to
how to get along with a show together. It's like
a band pretty much, but right and I mean I
hear that comparison a lot. You know, it's like a
band's and it really is. But anyways, me and Taylor

(04:14):
linked up because we were kind of both of our
shows were a part of a multi media group and
so we collabsed a few times and really we kind
of just hit it off. We were talking about, you
know a lot of the things we get into the
show now. And you know, Jesse was always a part
of our show. You know, he didn't know it or not,
but he was always like a part of our show.

(04:35):
You know, he he'd always.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Be like the only guest.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
He was like the only guys. You know, he's like
a quick feeling guy. And Andy Man tonight, right exactly.
But our show was called Remnant Warriors Podcast, and so
we all three just kind of coming together and you know,
it started becoming fun, and so we were we were like, hey,
let's uh, let's rebrand the show. It's gonna be the

(04:59):
Biblical hit Man. If you look at the logo, you
can kind of see in the background it's like a
dystopian world where you've got you know, dog Man, Bigfoot.
You know, you got UFOs, aliens and fallen angels and stuff.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Describe the character. So Stevie's the Book of Eli.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah right, you can see.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
This story, right and likes hit Man forty seven or
whatever that is, right, that.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
It was a forty one something like that.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yeah, I think it's forty seven.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
I don't know that.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Maybe, all right, give it a goog and then I'm,
of course the one and only John Wick baby boy.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
So that's it.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
A beard, you know, Oh yeah, he doesn't have a beard.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
He doesn't have a beer.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
I have a put dog though, similar.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, but the name the Biblical hit man. We we
kind of put it together, and my thoughts about.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
It were, uh, you know, it was all you man,
you totally.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
It's kind of like we talk about the things in
the world, we talk about supernatural things per se, and
and the majority of the world doesn't doesn't go to
the Bible with these things, and so we do. And
really we've just been letting the truth just do its thing,
you know, and it naturally, you know, becomes something that

(06:12):
just takes out narratives for shows you a different perspective
on things where you know, I think people at the
end of their conclusions would go, yeah, you know, God's real.
Stuff's real. There's a lot of history to it, a
lot of it's hidden from us, and and and but
you know, we get into a bunch of that stuff.
But that's the Biblical hit men, and that's kind of

(06:33):
where we ran with that. And it's been it's been
a hit.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Yeah, it's been. It's been great.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Well, the Remnant Warriors was like Stevie really was like, dude,
when you look up Remnant Warriors, it's it's you see
it a lot of different places. So we didn't want
to we wanted to be more unique and more original. Well,
it's a good idea.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
I heard your name.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
I was like, what everybody does that?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
I'm trying to remember. I got to look back I
first time I heard that name.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
I'd love to hear this kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, I think you guys are on NDS. Yeah, of course, right, nice,
I think that's where I heard you first. Yeah, shout
out to those guys.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Those guys are Yeah, they are awesome. Well, speaking of
BROHEMI and Grove, shout out.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
To David Top those guys invited us there and other
that I cannot go.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Annoyed that I can't go. I almost didn't.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I have to go to Colorado next week and then
Montana play, you know, Man of Many Hats play Adult
play adult. So yeah, my whole family lives in Colorado,
so I my mom's Yeah, I wouldn't say she's she's
not she's she's old. So I've got to go help

(07:48):
I've got to go help her out.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Okay, that's good.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
So the question I ask, and I'll just ask Jesse first,
it's the same question for both of you. But since
we're we've started this trend, what got you into this
whole world? Of high strangeness. That's what I'll call it,
because it's not just biblical, it's not just cryptids, it's
not just paranormal, it's not UFOs, it's all of it.

(08:15):
So I just call it high strangeness. So what got you?
What planted the seed in you to enter this universe?

Speaker 4 (08:25):
I got a long story, and I'll try to keep
it short.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Brother.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
It's from childhood. I lived in a house that was
built in the late seventeen hundreds, maybe late eighteen hundreds.
I might be off on that debt, but I grew
up in Geneva, New York. And you're well aware you're
in New York as well. Yes, so very old house,
very old town, certainly haunted.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Lakeside in awesome Lakeside.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
What's that I said? Awesome Lakeside down, beautiful, beautiful town.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Lots of big wine wine town as well, rugged though old,
very old rundown. But I grew up in that house,
had a lot of encounters that I didn't really experience.
And then my father moved into a big brickware house
in Lyons, New York, and it's right across from the
Erie Canal, and it's a very old brick warehouse, and
that's where I saw my first ghost and maybe the

(09:15):
only ghost I ever saw. We lived on the second
floor of this massive brick warehouse, very old, and I
was walking down it was like the sun was going down.
I was walking down the hallway and then I looked
to the doorway. There's only one way up, one stairway up,
very long stairway up, and there's a window right there.
So the sun was just going down and I see
like this, this silhouette of what looks like to be

(09:36):
my dad wearing a baseball cap, and I was like Dad.
I looked at him, like Dad, Dad, and then he
didn't respond to me, and I started, I guess I
started to scream. And then I was just sitting there,
frozen in fear, and my dad grabbed me from the
left side out of nowhere, and I remember he had
his glasses on, he had a softball bat in his hand,
and I'm like, oh, that wasn't my dad. And then

(09:57):
we both looked at the door where he's like, what
are you screaming at? The thing was gone, So I
guess that's my first encounter. Like I held on too
that my entire life, and then I had many more
encounters after that, but that's what I held on to
it and that's what really sparked my eventually, because I
was scared of that for a while and I had

(10:18):
to stay in that warehouse by the way, I had
to live there, so I slept under the cover. Still.
I was like fourteen, so you know, it was uh
and I was probably I didn't say my age. I
was probably around seven and a half eight years old
around that time. But yeah, that's what started it all
for me, that experience, and I had many more. I
saw little red dots. I was in the Adirondecks in

(10:38):
upstate New York around this a year or two later,
little red dots going behind the moon, back and forth,
buzzing around behind the moon, and I'm like, what is that?
You know, just stuff you hold on to from childhood.
I'll never forget it, you know. It's a fascinating to me, absolutely, But.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, it's crazy. You know. I have a few, a
few stories, but just kind of just condense it all.
You know, I've had quite a few sleep paralysis experiences.
You know. I don't think it's what science is trying

(11:14):
to solidify this experience, as I think it's a real,
a real experience. But anyways, that was like I would say,
sleep paralysis is a big one for me to where
when I've had these experiences happen to me, usually I'm
talking about Jesus or the Bible or something the night
before with whoever. But this one experience I had, we

(11:36):
had a big conversation in a dorm room with a
bunch of you know, different people, boyfriend's girlfriends. You know,
it's kind of like I get together. Anyways, the conversation
came up pertaining to the Bible, and you know, I
kind of just got into it. I knew the Bible
at that time, and you know, anyways, just kind of
having a conversation with all these people. But anyways, the

(11:56):
night comes and end up going to sleep and I
remember waking up. I was awake in the middle of
the night. I could move my feet, the sheets were moving,
but I was like paralyzed man and just filled with fear.
I knew something was kind of that there was this
presence around me, and so where my senses were picking
up the presence, my eyes followed and I locked eyes

(12:19):
with this thing that was a big shadow figure right
probably like nine feet tall. It was. It was kind
of like bigger than the doorway because its head was
kind of like blocking that top doorway silk. And as
soon as I kind of had an idea what it
was and it knew that I was having those thoughts,
it zoomed right up next to my bed pretty quick,

(12:42):
like supernaturally quick, ope, and and it just started strangling me.
And so I'm choking. I'm getting choked in my sleighing
in bed, and I remember I just prayed to God
and just you know, like take this away from me.
I need your help, you know, pretty much like fear
of impending doom is like what I had. And so
my right arm broke free, and so I went and

(13:03):
choked it. And as it's like in this tussle with me,
it's it's also speaking a different language, like a like
a like a dark voice. I don't know, maybe an Okian.
Maybe it was ancient Latin or something, right, the language
of mordor right, right, man, dude, but what something something

(13:28):
like that? Right? Yeah. What kind of made this whole
experience real even more real for me is is, uh,
my girlfriend at the time was lying next to me,
and she saw the whole thing and so she saw
me grabbing with my arm in the air, because when
I woke up out of the same with her right,
I'm just kidding side right, she was grabbing my arm

(13:52):
wow from from its reach, you know. And so that
one was pretty gnarly. Man. And and you know, I've
had a few other supernatural experiences where where I've gotten
some confirmation from certain things. But you know, there's definitely
a realm that we can't see. We try to figure
it out. I don't think we'll ever be able to
figure it out, honestly, but it's very.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Fascinating unless something changes, something, you know, I mean, there's
a time that will change.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
But we're just not there yet.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Mean by that, after the you know, the Second Coming,
the all the stuff, you know, revelation, I believe after
all that that.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Will everyone will finally believe.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
They should allegedly, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
So I and even with that being said, as we know,
which we've we've talked about this, Stephen and I have
at least you know that, you know, even after the
Millennial Rain, it's not over, you know, not technically, we
still got one more, one more tussle with Gog Magog
and yep, the whole thing after you know, Satan marches

(15:06):
on Jerusalem. So but we'll see at the end of
the day the Kingdom of God, you know. Yeah, I
feel like like most of this will be revealed, right, Yeah,
it's it's.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
It says something about like people like you that have
the ability to I don't know if you can see
oors all the time? I do. I do recall when
we had you on our podcast that you said that
you could see orus and I found that fascinating because
in general, there is people all over the world and

(15:38):
it's well documented, it's everywhere that have all these abilities
that I don't have, and then most people don't have.
And it's like, where does this come from? Is it
like that rh negative bloodline? You know? Is it is? It?

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Is? It?

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Is it a learned trait? Like for you, I remember
you said something about how you kind of something happened
to you.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
And I basically have I drowned?

Speaker 4 (16:02):
You drowned?

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Right?

Speaker 4 (16:03):
You had a death, You had a dying experience.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I had a near death experience that wasn't a near
death experience, Like I don't remember anything like I don't
I never saw a light, I never talked to Jesus.
I didn't, you know, none of that. I didn't have
a you know, life review or anything. I just remember
waking up spinning.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Faut water everywhere.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Wow wow, and uh, you know, some some guys that
I know were you know, pumping my chest and I
was on a on a rubber boat in the middle
of the you know, not in the middle but in
the Atlantic Ocean.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
So crazy.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
And then shortly thereafter like what is happening? Like I
literally went, I remember making an appointment with the you know,
I'm not this is not me, this is not my job.
It's my show, but this is not my time to talk.
But I'll tell the story.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, tell us.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
So but I went and made an appointment with our doctor,
you know, the dive the dive officer, Like, what is
happening to me?

Speaker 3 (17:00):
He thought I was insane?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
So I got I literally got sent to psych and
kind of told I was, you know, having trauma related
blah blah blah whatever, you know. And this was in
the nineties, so it was really before like PTSD was
really a thing before they called it PTSD, right, But
I didn't have I mean I did, but it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
That's how it was causing this, right, Yeah, you know,
near death experiences fascinating me. Man. And there's a book
I'm actually interested in. It's in my shopping cart, you know,
I'm gonna get it soon. But I was watching the
Sean Ryan show, right, and he had this guy on,
some Christian guy or whatever, but he was telling these stories.
This guy wrote a book. I forget exactly what the

(17:45):
books called, but he writes this book and it's just
a big compilation of all these near death experiences. And
he starts like sharing some of these stories and getting
into it. He starts sharing this one lady's testimony, and
she had this as she's in the hospital, right, she
codes goes into cardiac arrest. She levitates from her body

(18:07):
and above her she can just see like just a
just pure light and she's kind of like going up
towards it. But as she's going up towards it again,
she's dead, right, She's having like this astral maybe like
just like experience, right, who knows, right, which might be
that which might be that dimension which right in the
in the middle there that it's like a lobby or something.

(18:28):
But as she's levitating upwards, she rotates down and she's
looking over the whole entire operation that's going on, and
they're working the code. They get her back, but she's
she's not like in her body, and so they start
doing emergency surgery. And as they're cutting her open, they're
like one of the nurses or doctors or whatever starts

(18:52):
to like say, man, it stinks or something like that, right,
which you know that that happens, right, yeah, But but
she saw this happening, and as she's like up in
the air, she sees this this marking, like like this
stamp or or like a tag whatever it is on
on the blade of the fan that is like facing

(19:13):
the ceiling, right wow, wow, yeah, And she's seeing all
this stuff and anyways, the emergency catastrophe that's going on
right now, they ended up saving her. She she goes
back into her body and she starts telling everyone what
she saw in her experience. When she's out of the
ICU and she's out, you know, kind of like moving
out of that recovery, she was like wanting to go

(19:34):
back into the into the operating room and she wants
to go see that fan. Anyways, they they got Clarence
to go do it. She goes up in the fan,
or someone goes in like I'm sorry, someone goes and
takes a picture of the of the top of the fan.
It comes back and it's the same exact decal that
she saw, but it was like the company's serial number
and all this stuff, right, And so she ends up

(19:58):
also finding that the that healthcare worker who was in
the room, who I think it was a surgeon, who
said that she's stank real bad. And when she said
that to her, she said that her life changed, like
she just she her life changed. She started crying, you know,
she was just like the healthcare like how did you

(20:19):
know that? Yeah? And she's like yeah, you were laughing
at it, like like and I'm like wow, that kind
of blew me away. That stuff that that type of
stuff is intense.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
And can I tell a story real quick? It's the
same story, different story, and it's about someone I know.
No you can't, all right, Yeah, of course, dude. This
is this is from October first. This is a story
about the shooting in Las Vegas. And I'm not going
to name his name. He wasn't there. I had friends
that were there, and luckily none of them.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Are talking about the Mandalay Bay.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yes, October one shooting in Las Vegas at Mandeley Bay
at the Route ninety one festival. This story is the same,
very similar story you just told. And my buddy told
me he has a he has a family friend mother
and her two daughters. His family friends went to this
festival and as the shooting occurred, the mother got like

(21:19):
pinned to the ground straight from like the top of
her head, and she instantly died. And the daughters one
of the daughters was shot too, and the other daughter
was running. They're all running for their lives. And the
daughters ended up in a fenced area where they were
trying to jump, and the daughter dropped a family heirloom

(21:41):
bracelet on the ground, and they had daughters ended up surviving.
Well guess what, so did the mother. They found the
mother in the hospital. Long story short, and the daughter
said to the mother said, I'm so sorry, mom, I
got chills right now, bro, I got chills, chills, bro,
the mother said to the daughter. And the daughter said

(22:03):
to the mother, Mom, I love you. I'm so happier love.
I'm so sorry I lost the family heirlomb the bracelet,
and the mom goes, don't worry, I know where it is.
When I died, I went out of my body and
I followed you and I watched you drop your bracelet
right by the fence.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, I get. I just got chills to it.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
They went back and found the bracelet by the fence
where the mom said that she saw it.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
See, I mean, like, what is that right? Right? Like?
How do you chew that up and swallow that? I
mean I don't.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Know, man, Yeah, Like, so there's a book and this
was really my I had, So I kind of fought
it to an extent like no, this isn't you know.
I didn't know what was going on. But like with
me being able to sea, you can see like when
people like where they don't feel like if like you

(22:57):
were hurt or injured or something, right, like I could
tell you like without you saying you're like, oh I'm hurting,
And I could be like well wait and I could
probably tell you exactly where wow without you telling me.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Because I could see it. Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Just because the color well, because the colors are different,
It's it's so bizarre. I also see because the auras,
people have different color auras. So I literally can tell
you when someone's an evil person. Wow, just by the color,
just by the color of their aura.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
And what would is it? Is it generally the same
color or is it no?

Speaker 2 (23:38):
I mean it depends. It really depends on on you know.
I can tell people's moods. I can tell you know,
all the stuff just by It's a superpower for sure.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Sometimes you don't want to know because it just it's
a lot of noise. But it's not like I talk
to dead people or something like that.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
But I can kind of shut it off and turn
it on and turn it off to an extent. Can't
like see your guys as ours because it has to
be in person.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Interesting, That makes sense, it does.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, So, like.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
I always there's certain people I always want to meet.
One of them is Donald Trump. I've never met him
in person, I've ever seen him. I just want to
see him.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
That's it. I want to be able to see him.
You see him and he's like six foot six, and
you're like what you're enuffle of? Man, I feel like
you were actually a giant.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
One of the worst ours and I'll say it, I've
said it publicly many a time, but one of the
worst ouras I've ever seen, and it won't shock.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
You at all. Is Hillary Clinton?

Speaker 4 (24:35):
You saw her freend?

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, I actually did.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
I was on one of her security details for the
New York State Fair years ago and.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Yeah wow in Syracuse. Yeah yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
She was Senator Clinton. What was her? What was the aura?
It was awful.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
It was like the way I can describe is a
lot of it is like it had the color of
like motor royal.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Oh, you know what's funny.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
You say, she's usually not a good thing. You say
motor oil. And then I just immediately think of the
whole conspiracy with black goot.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Black Goo came to my mind immediately.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Brother, yeah, black man, the blackop. Did I read that
because of you? I don't know. Maybe I did. I
don't remember. Maybe we had we had an episode on it.
But yeah, it's gnarly.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
It's so much of a little gnarly. And she's not
the only one like that. I mean, there's others in
summer politicians. Some are just people. I've also dealt with
things that I knew were not of this earth because
they didn't have an whoa.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
They're just like black bro.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Like I mean, my wife and I had it in
an incident where we walked by something in our neighborhood
in the like at night when we were we were
on o'clock at night, and this thing was so evil.
It was like sucking light. That's that's how I felt
to me. Does that make sense? Like it was just

(26:05):
its kind of like a black hole, like it like
just sucks light. WHOA, That's how this kind of was.
But it was just in it, But it was a
it was a humanoid form like figure in like a hoodie.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
That reminds me of vampires.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Sort of, yeah, very much. So.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Do you remember there was a Stephen King novel that
he wrote and they made an HBO movie of it.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Do you show? Maybe? Damn it?

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I wish I could remember, but that's kind of what
it reminded me of, this hooded figure. And I literally, yeah,
my wife and I walked by it and it was
and here's here's how you know it besides that I
kind of pushed her off to the side and I
just like and I don't even know how to describe it,
because I also do rake. I'm a reiki practitioner as well,

(26:50):
so I I just pushed as.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Much light as I could.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
That's kind of how I felt like I I envisioned
myself just glowing like a like a like you know,
you guys have seen Harry Potter, right, yeah, but like
when he like the you know yeah yeah, with the
with the deer and right by the with the what
the hell is that called that ghost figure?

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Man, I can't you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
But like it was that blinding white light. That's how
That's like what I envisioned me doing.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Dude, you know what this reminds me of? You know
what you remind me of the movie Unbreakable with Bruce
Willis when he got on the train accident, I know
what you're saying, and he wasn't hurt. And then he's
after that he started knowing the bad people. He knew
where they were, what they were doing, and he would
walk past them or bump into them, and he just

(27:42):
he would he followed that remember the movie. He followed
that guy because he knew he was going to do
something bad.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Wow, And I don't know that person. I mean, I
guess I could if I wanted to, maybe something like that.
But so then we passed this thing, and you know,
I was like, yep. And as soon as I did that, though,
it reacted like it moved to the side, because otherwise
it was kind of straight at us, and that was
like one of my first real things of spiritual warfare.

(28:12):
But it shifted to the side and walked by us,
and we walked probably three or four steps. We both
turned around it was gone, jeez, I.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
This makes me think, you know, with the whole UFO
disclosure and whatever, that's going to look like, you know,
around the corner. But like, are are there different life
forms living with us here on earth?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Well, this is one of the things I want to
ask you because of your sleep paralysis stuff.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
At first, let me the.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
The Light After Dark or Light After Death is a
really good book about near death experiences.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Since we kind of got sidetracked.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Okay, yeah, that's called The Light After Death and obviously
the listeners, but it's The Light After Death, My Journey
to Heaven and Back by Vincent Todd Tolman and with
Lynn Taylor, and he's on a whole bunch of podcasts
and his story is pretty compelling. But I mean, some

(29:15):
of it you're like, I don't know, but it's it's
he was kind of like guided through heaven or something
like heaven through by his grandfather, but he didn't know
it was his grandfather. It's just a cool story. It's
just a cool story. You should and look it up
on YouTube because he's got a couple cool things and

(29:37):
he's like in ministry now and his story is really cool.
And I would love to have him on. I just
haven't reached out to him yet, And you guys would
probably want to have him on too. But Steven, I
know you probably enjoyed talking to Vicki Joy Anderson.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah. Yeah, And when we had her on our show,
we we talked about my experience, we talked about what
she has studied and understands from all that stuff. Right,
Like she's she's probably the most well researched person with
sleep paralysis, and she has an interesting take on it where,

(30:15):
you know, and when I mentioned kind of like the
astral realm, you know previously in the show, it's I
she kind of compares it as that that's the state,
that that's the experience that's happening. And you know, she
had mentioned as well, where it's the it's it's these
entities that take you into it. And so we've also

(30:36):
had Harley go mind blank with his last name Harley Braun.
Harley Braun, we've had him on the show, and he's
had you know, I mean multiple experiences with sleep paralysis
on a whole nother level, dude, to where like it's
almost like the movie Stranger Things. Man, it's like kind
of wild. But I don't know. I mean, I if
it is a case where these entities are able to

(30:57):
play around with, you know, spirit per se and I
know we kind of talked about on the show we
had you on with doorways. You know what if these
doorways kind of get accessed and and it's some some
form of consent to where now your your your You've
opened the gates right, so you know, whatever is outside

(31:21):
of your will is going to probably take place. I
don't know, you know. And if it's this realm where
it's either you know, nephelum disembodied spirits, you know, or
if it's like what you're what you say with this
whole supernatural you know, war, that's kind of like going on.

(31:41):
I see it as as a as a like what's
the reason they do this? Right? Maybe it's a Maybe
it's to try and manipulate your mind.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
And they want your body. I think they want to
be they want.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Your body, right. I mean, we me and Jesse have
done an episode in the past with you know, our
previous previous show, and there's a state of oppression that
takes place with sleep paralysis for sure, and we all
know that oppression is the first stage of possession, right,
and it just slowly grows over time to where you know,

(32:16):
you've fully given consent for this thing to access you know,
whatever wants and needs it it thrives for. But we've
also looked into what does this look like in the
science field, you know, and there are science people, there
are scientists that are working on trying to understand it
more fully. You've got a secular look at it to

(32:37):
where it's just a bunch of chemicals firing in the
brain and you know they'redjusting it, justifying it for those things.
But you have studies that I've also looked up and
peer reviewed to where they've done sleep studies with people
and people that have high potential and you know, a
high rate of having these experiences. And at the conclusion

(32:59):
of one of the studies that I looked into, I
think it was like seventeen hundred patients or something, they
started to lean towards that sleep processes is actually the
state of oppression to where this entity is is trying
to weaken you down and manipulate your mind and your

(33:20):
beliefs and all this kind of stuff, and then boom
they have access. There was an experience that Billy, that
someone in has had, well, I was going to relate
that to an experience of someone that we know in
the whole you know, social media things, and it's Billy Carson, right, Like,

(33:42):
Billy Carson had a sleep prolyssis experiment with aliens and
it changed his life. It manipulated him into doing what
he's doing now. And so that's kind of like where
I'm getting at with that. Maybe it's who knows, Maybe
he's possessed. I don't know, but yeah, no, I mean
maybe it was. I think he's manipulated, manipulated, Yes, he's.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Manipulated like and but like certain things, and and maybe
he was turned into a agent of misinformation.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Sure, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
We kind of know at this point. But he I
think he believes a lot of what he says.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
I agree, of course, yeah, I agree. He got cooked
by wes Uf cooked cooked. That's God's plan right there, baby, Yeah, right, but.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
So I guess what I was getting at is there's
a difference between possession and oppression, right, and so, but
if you're oppressed enough, at some point, you're going to
be like, God, make this stop.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Right.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
And so if they wear you down, the enemy wears
you down enough, you're just going to open a door
at some point. Whether so, I also think it's hooked
into I think we had this conversation where we talk
about Satan or the Satan, the enemy, the you know,
the Hosaton, whatever you want to say. But at the
end of the day, there's entities whose jobs it is

(35:07):
is to break you down and and make you slip, right,
And then they take that and they go to you know,
the judge who is whether it's God, Jesus, you know
what I mean, and say, hey, it's it's just like
the Thestan did with Job said well, yeah, Job loves you,

(35:29):
but only because he's rich.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
Stev was just talking about that.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Right, only because he's rich. So then they God was like, yeah,
go ahead, take it. See what he does. And that
messes with people's heads because they're like, wait, wait, like
I worked hard for this, Like but then you realize
that it's one of those things that you have to
realize this isn't about you and your stuff. This is

(35:55):
about you having faith and believing in God and Jesus
and know Jesus.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Is your Lord and savior.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Right, you know that's what it's actually about. It's not
about all this other crap.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Right. And also for me, like I wanted to bring
this up, there's a there's we all know this. We
just talked about how New York is haunted.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
You know, I think the whole damn state's hunt, the
whole damn states.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
But think about it, going back to like natives, right,
like insane.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Yeah, you got the Triangle, that's the Massachusetts Triangle. I
can't remember. The Bridgewater Triangle is that water Bridgewater? That
with King Philip, which his name is not King Philip.
It was an Indian chief, but they named him King Philip.
That was a horrific bloodshed like Gettysburg style, maybe even

(36:43):
worse like Manassas. Yeah, and and this this is where
I'm going with this. So me growing up in a
haunted house, in a haunted brick warehouse, which was it.
I wouldn't call it haunted, but there was spirits in there.
They were there. I was never tormented or necessary oppressed,
maybe approached, I guess you could say. But my point

(37:04):
with this is that there's there's the hitchhikers factor to
these entities, especially demonic entities. And if you're in a house,
you live in a house that had been whatever you
want to call it, an Indian burial ground. Usually the
occultists perform rituals which arise these spirits which they're trapped

(37:25):
in this certain place. That's how I believe it. And
you're there, you're the wrong place at the wrong time,
and you're going to get tormented. But if you go
to places like maybe Skinwalker Ranch or these other places,
there's this hitch hiker effect that will follow you home,
and that is one of the more rare things. But
I believe certainly it is demonic and sorts, and it

(37:48):
is a little bit different from and I think it's
similar to like having like pushing against the barriers of
evil and loving Jesus Christ and proclaiming and exposing darkness,
really exposing the truth and bringing people to the light.
I don't think they like that, so I think that
is a part of that one.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, well, there's actual stories of like Sasquatches, like sasquatch hitchhiking.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
To their own following.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, and you know that's a slippery slope.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
But have you seen the video of that, the video
of the guy that went out and was like this
thing followed him home.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Well Scott Carpenter talks about it where he's like, they
started messing with me in my house. Where does he
live in East Tennessee. Well he's dead now, actually, I
and then the the you know like La Marzouli wll
say they took him out, they took him off, something
took him. But he's he's one of the people that

(38:55):
also he would rebuke, rebuke big Foot and dog man
and stuff that he came in contact with it and
it would leave him alone. Because he was a big
part of the Melbourn Ketchum DNA sasquatch DNA genome project.
He collected a lot of evidence for it and what

(39:17):
he's convinced that it's they're l eued right right, right,
So we've talked about.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
This, Yeah, who's who's the guy that had that like
big big foothead that was like it didn't look real.
But he's like trying to convince everybody and it was
this massive giant head, like have you seen that?

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (39:36):
And he had he did like like a bunch of
videos on it.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Man, he pushed it out there and it looks so fake.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
But I can't well, it's because it was vacant. I
can't remember.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
The way he was talking was too like, look at guys,
look what I got, Like I cut the hat off
and the no, No, it was weird. That was a
weird video.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
You see that other guy? Ye, some folks that I
don't know. Man. I was having thoughts, you know when
we had our conversation with the show, we had you
on with the whole lu topic and everything, and I
kind of started like digging into it a little bit more.
And there's a verse here because it's like, how do

(40:19):
we get the concept of bigfoot, doc man and all
of these hybridized creatures? You know, how do we have
an explanation for that? Right? But doing some digging, and
I found in Jude one, in a Jude one Versus
six and seven, it says and the angels with which
kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation,

(40:42):
he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness. Unto the
judgment of the Great Day, even as Salomon goamore in
the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over
to fornication and going after strange flesh. Are set forth
for an example, suffering vengeance and eternal fire. Well what

(41:03):
is that? What is it? Jude one, verse six and seven.
And so what we have here, you know, from my understanding,
is we have two examples of the same exact thing happening.
It's just history of repeating itself. And it's talking about
basically the time before the flood, which it's referring to

(41:26):
the angels that send right, abandoned their heavenly estate. This
is Genesis six, and so the flood happens, right, the
flood happens after that, then we have Sodom and Gomorra,
which is where I think the second incursion was. I
think I think that's where we have the giants. This
is where we have the Nephilom, you know, in those

(41:48):
days and after. So what makes complete sense? Yeah, but
the crazy that the one connection I made here. But yeah,
the one connection I made here, and it says giving
them they just talking about Solomon Gomorrah, right, it's comparing
the two situations before the flood in Salomon Gomora and
showing you that, hey, that's exactly. It's in like manner

(42:10):
and it says giving over to yeah, yep, and it
says giving over to fornication and going after strange flesh.
And so strange flesh is other flesh. It's it's not
male or female, it's other flesh.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Because when they say other flesh, it's actually the Greek
is it's a carros terras literally other flesh or different flesh, right, right, right, right,
not just so it suggests not just immortal sexuality, right,

(42:43):
heteros transgression of uh, creating order, humans engaging in non
human entities, right period. Yeah, yeah, I think I think
that's that's a huge thing.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Steven, I think yeah. I think too. In Solomon Gomorrah,
I think they were they were breeding with animals. I
think that they were breeding with other weird strange flesh.
And what's funny is I mentioned this to Jesse and
we actually brought it up one time and looked at
it together, and it's this scene from the movie three
hundred and so you kind of have like the it

(43:21):
kind of feels biblical in a way, right with like
weird things going on with the Persian guy thinks he's
a god, shows like he's kind of like Nimrod right
in a way, but think he's he's a giant. He's
a giant, he's huge.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah, and there, but there's there's there's actual stories of
them like this. So what I love about three hundred.
I don't mean to cut you out. Oh you're good,
roll with it, but that's exactly what happened, is like,
those are the stories told the way that the stories
were told. Like Frank, what's his name? Frank, the guy
that wrote three wrote it that way. He wrote it

(43:54):
from the supernatural view of this. He didn't he didn't
write it at as the Odyssey tells it or the
whatever it is, the.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
Right It was an all chemical process. Xerxes walked into
the water as a normal man and then came out
a giant, a.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Giant, and then all these different like weird entities that
he had in his court.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
He became a he became a good breem. Yeah, basically at.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
All, dude, he had like bathomet type people, androgynist folks
and and animalistic hybrids.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Sodom and goodmory. I mean, just look at the way
they reacted to the angels.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Right exactly exactly. There was fornication present, there was lust
in their heart for like that was that wasn't anything. Well,
I think they knew the story. I think they knew
what was going on before the flood. I think they
were like, dude, this is let's do this again. We're
going to rule the world. Yeah right, We're going to

(44:56):
create men of renown. You know what I'm saying. It's
why absolutely it is. That's great, that's wow. But but
you know, I think so. So my connection with this
is if that was happening in Sonom and Gomorra and
with the context of that verse, it's telling us the
same thing happened in the you know, Genesis six times right,

(45:17):
and if the incursion of hybridization was happening, you know,
the the offspring of the Nephlom. I can see the
connection with the Lau thing, especially with some other people's
experiences right that you know, you've shared on our show
and stuff.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
It's it's weird, there's a connection. There still gaps. But
we talked about this with Bennett as well. Like the
last episode we had him on What's Up with Saint Christopher.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
And that the dog man.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
Yeah, what's up with that guy? He was saved, you know.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Absolutely, but he's he's absolutely.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
He's depicted as a as a dog man. It's the
deal with that. That's so crazy.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Well, I mean you have dog men, you have lion men,
you have actually have I think that there's some.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
There's some that moab people, the linemen.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Yeah, right, minamoa. There's a there's a verse I want
to read for you. You're gonna love it. It's I
think it's out of revelation. But anyways, it's when the
it's when the uh you know these alien looking scorpion
things come out of the pit, right, but they have
a body, the face like a lion, but like a man.

(46:29):
It's like wild. Yes, it's like that.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
There's a movie, Wow, the Scorpion King.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yes, no, I tried. But so while while you're looking
at that, sat Christopher. He was a Canaanite man, right
can canon night man, especially large and strong. Converted to Christianity,
he wanted to serve Christ by using his to carry

(47:00):
people across the dangerous river, and one day he carried
a small child. He became heavier with each step. That
child reveled revealed himself to be Christ carrying the weight
of the world and martyred under emperor the deec i

(47:21):
u s the CEUs Desias third century a d. There's
also the dog headed version, right, and based on early sources,
is yes, a dog headed man, humanoid creptid in Christian
sainthood the Acts of Saint Christopher. Why the dog had
some claim it's a mistranslation of the word Canaanite, but

(47:43):
either way, Canaan you know, the people from Canaan weren't
you know.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
Human anyway, brings it up all the time, and so
it's fascinating.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Nephlim el e you you know, preademic, humanoid, whatever you
want to call these people, right, uh or a misunderstood
tribe of beast men.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Wow, you have a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I mean, think about all of mythology, not just Christian mythology,
but Greek and Phoenician and you know, Egyptian and Indian
and one of the things that so many we don't
really talk about, like Chinese, and you really mean you realize,
like when Nero people were accusing Nero of being the Antichrist,

(48:27):
there's a guy who's ruling all of Asia almost you
know that nobody ever talks about too so, and I
don't even know a lot about it. I it's something
I really want to look more into. But all these
pantheons have they don't rhyme. They might not be exactly
the same, but they rhyme.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
You said this last time. I thought I found that interesting.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
So they're they're what you just call the little g gods.
I mean, Zeus it was, you know, he's got you
know him? And do you take any of them? And
they're they're little g guys. And so I think that
they're all obviously I'm not the only one who thinks this,
but they're all fallen angels there as what does Gary
Wayne call a lot of these things the mafia godfathers

(49:14):
right right, which which are actually the watchers the folks
that are in the celestial mafia godfathers.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
That's what he can that's what he says.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah, So you know, like Dronos, Yeah, Sam, I l
I mean with me, these names are scary, you know.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yeah. And I talked to yesterday.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
I did an episode with the guy from twenty one
CD John If you guys have ever heard of him,
check his podcast out, and he is he's convinced that
Samuel is the.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Enemy the one same time.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Yeah, that sam Ael is the main adversary here, which
would make sense in all honesty if you really look
at it.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Yeah, I wanted to circle back around when we were
talking about these he goats and these as, Yeah, the Satyrs, right,
and that's even it's even in the Bible right, like
it is Isaiah chapter thirteen twenty one, kind of kind
of with kind of with Bigfoot too, yes, yeah, And

(50:25):
when you look at it, you know, there's connections with Bapphamet,
there's connections with Pan. We got a pan. This all
this the damn goats is, man, there's something. There's something
to it, man. And and maybe it's Bigfoot related as well.
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
It's this whole hybrid stuff, right, all the hybrid stuff.
There was a girl who was just done, I don't know, man,
what's his name? U Bo Kennedy gets some really good guests.
He just had this girl on who was talking about
her boyfriend, fiance at the time or whatever was possessed

(51:04):
for like three years she was with this guy and
they talk about how she would like line her. So
we're just talking about like the goat stuff. She would
put salt around her bed, right, and she found that
demons couldn't cross the salt line, but fallen angels could.
And there's one fallen angel that insisted that it was Lucifer.

(51:29):
And one time it got on the bed and then
got off the bed, but left a footprint in the salt,
and it was half like goat.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
It was like a hoof print, right, isn't that crazy?
It's crazy?

Speaker 2 (51:44):
But it was possessing her boyfriend. Yeah what, but it
left the that track and I think she took pictures
of it, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
But I mean, think of all the mythical creatures Minotaurs, yeah, satyrs, senatars, lions, tigers, bears,
you know, right, yeah, asquatch why not? Yeah, that's asquatch?

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
I mean there's even ports of yeah, like bigfoot people
like they conflate it all. But like goat men in
the US.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Right, interesting, I'm not too familiar with the goat men
in the US.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
But I'm trying to remember, trying to remember where, but
I know that there is Have you guys, Have you
guys ever caught the movie or watched the movie? Cabin
in the woods. Yeah, of course, dude, that's the one
with Who's So it's basically a group of five young
friends and they go they get this trip or something

(52:43):
in to where they go out into this cabin. But
they don't know that they've been manipulated the whole time
to come to the cabin. The whole they've been chosen
to come to the cabin, right. And anyways, it's they
terrorize these this group of young people in the cab
in the cabin in the woods, right, and they're in
this enclosed system.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
It's like a Truman show of horror, and it's like
a big government op. It's like they got this big
underground facility where they have all this technology that's controlling. Yes, yes, Well.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
The thing is too is that they're doing rituals. They
have to do the rituals. They have to get these
five people to the cabin, right, and each person is
fulfilling like an individual, you know, personality, which it needs
to that personality needs to get sacrificed to this god.
And if they don't or if they are not successful
at this ritual, the whole world ends, right. The the

(53:38):
SCP creatures zero zero one. Well, Segurtley Reaver h is
in the movie and she basically says that they're the
gods of old, which is kind of like maybe fallen
Angel reference. Yea very fallen Angel reference. But anyways, I've
always had this, uh it's tickled my curiosity ever since

(54:01):
we had one on one on our shows, mister Homunculous, right,
so he he kind of brought me, brought this concept
to my mind, and so it's it's what if they
are like what if it's like a just a different,
a compartmentalized, you know, black op project right off to

(54:23):
the side to where maybe they they've extracted some sort
of angelic DNA and they're they're they're doing a science
experiment now of this incursion where they're building chimeras, they're
building homunculuses, They're they're building these bodies for hosts to
take them. Right, and we know that there's like incubus

(54:43):
and succubi and all these kinds of other female and
male spirits out there in the demonic world. But it
just makes me think, like, is it possible that there's
an operation that the governments are running way you know,
I mean funded through a breakaway civilzation you may say,
and and they're doing d n A I v F
experiments with you know, yeah, right, and those things to

(55:11):
the public. You know, they're releasing them in four one
one areas. They're releasing them in these You're starting to
sound like Taylor Studie.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Oh god, it's why wouldn't it that you know, you
have the deep underground you know, the dunans, the deep
underground military bases and and all these things, and a
lot of people go missing in national forests and like
why are are the cryptids guardians for these places?

Speaker 4 (55:37):
And you know, you guys know about the the the
Mammoth Cave system.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well there's I have a map overly.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
Yeah, the map Overly is.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
You know, it's you know, it's crazy system to go
from New England all the way down to over to
Indiana and all the way down through the Appalachians.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Yeah, the Virginia and down close to almost Louisiana.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Right like the furthest Ize scenes Georgia.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
But I think right, but no, no, no, I think
you're right. So that's the Mammoth Cave system. And it's
like when you overlap all the missing people in that area.

Speaker 5 (56:14):
That's pretty scary. Yeah, yeah, that's wild. No, I wanted
to finish this last point. But basically in the movie
The Cabin of the Woods, they're releasing these demonic entities,
you know, and that's kind of like what the spirit
behind it of of you know, either the zombies or
the ghost woman or the werewolf, right, because they have

(56:35):
all these weird cryptids that are in there too in
the mix. But we know like that the host that's
you know, running the show is like evil. So I'm like, man,
is it like are they doing and if there's rituals
behind the movie too? Right, so are they doing rituals
to summon the spirit into the hole mounkey list and
now release them out?

Speaker 3 (56:54):
And it's just wild, dude. But Carrie who Karen Wilker's
the Mess sounds familiar? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
So she she's written a book, I think it's called
Stolen Seed, and she's been abduct She's a life long
alien abductee and she's one of the people that.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Lifelong means that she's been she's been abducted since she
was a little good, like more times than she can count,
not anymore, because she found Jesus interesting allegedly that stopped it,
nipped it in. And she's done a lot of work,
but really good book actually, but she works with La Marzouli,

(57:36):
who and I bring up. I just think he's on
a lot of stuff. He's been doing this for a
long time's og, you know. And a lot of people
don't like you either love him or hate him. And
I don't think love him hate him is a thing.
But a lot of people, you know, he's he's made
a living doing this, right, But he really I think
he's one of the people that actually gives a shit, right, you.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
Know, somewhere from an undisclosed location.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
You can see, you can you can see as he's
getting older, he's just is like not I think he's
losing he's having less care like meaning in how he
says things. I think it's just become a more open mic,
you know. I love it, a.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Little less sensor self censorship there, right.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Yeah, And I think he's angry. I think he's a
little I think he's pissed.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
I just saw a video of him the other day
and loses it or something.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
Yes, it was actually really good. You should watch it.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Watch it.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
He does he's he gets a little he gets a
little ruffled. You don't see him that way.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Very good. I love it. But his his.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Whole theory, along with Karen Karen kind of substantiates a
lot of this is that there is an alien and
I say alien breathing program. Well, what they believe is
that it's the actual defallen that they're building an army.
That's what like cattle mutilizations are about all these things,

(58:57):
Like with the cattle mutilization mutilations, a lot of times
the reproductive organs are taken right, yes, yes, And their
theory is is that they're creating artificial wombs to also
whatever you are talking about.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
You live in New York and I live in New York.
I lived in New York. We know that cows are
very hardy animals and they're very easy. They take them
and they eat grass. They're hardy, they can live through everything.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
So they have a very similar structure that it wouldn't
be hard to turn that into artificial wombs.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
For anything whatever.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
And stolen seed, uh, satan seed, you know the bad
side of all this, Now, what are we making? But
that's that's kind of now, that's a very low level
way of explaining this. But she she also they also
say that the Grays, the gray aliens are basically they're

(01:00:02):
not aliens. They're like meat suits for Nephelin.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Right right, or something along those right right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Yea, some of this stuff is very fancy, tastical and
people are shut up, like, we lost half the viewership,
They're still gonna be this is going to get seventeen
views on YouTube, you know what I mean. But and
I don't care, But that's that's what I'm saying. And
that type of stuff is insane. Yeah, but yet man,

(01:00:33):
it seems plausible to me every every day.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Yeah. So are you guys, Are you guys familiar with
the Collins Elite?

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
I've heard.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
Yeah, Well there's a book that's out there. It's called
Final Events, and it's a guy who goes in and
just basically blows the lid open too. What the Collins
Elite was, It's almost like a Project Blue Book, but
it was. It was a separate or organization. It was
full of scientists, military officials, intelligence officers, people highly high

(01:01:06):
in the hierarchy of the government. And it was a
Christian organization. Basically, this was the bias belief right, that
they went into this study and research and developed a
whole program behind it, and basically their whole conclusions with
this whole thing is that they claim that these UFOs,

(01:01:27):
these aliens whatever it is, can speculate all day on it,
but that they're demonic entities. And this program from if
you look it up, if you google it, it's pretty
hard to kind of find and to see what the
program was about. But there's a lot of independent journalists
that have gone and talked about it. There's a lot
of FOYA documents that have come out, and it's released right, like,

(01:01:49):
no one knew what Operation Mockingbird was till the FOYA
got released and it got around social media and all
that kind of stuff, especially four to five years ago,
and everything kind of just started. It's like Conspira, She's
became like a big popcorn machine, dude, And it was
just things were getting you know, I mean, people had
nothing else to do four years ago but just to
stay home at some point, right, I mean, and that's

(01:02:12):
where you got a lot of podcasting and groups of people,
you know, starting to use their voice and wanting to
you know, talk about these countries and critically exactly it
was a wake up call for a lot of people, right,
but like, what what is you know? The meat suit
thing is mind blowing. Kind of just circles me back

(01:02:33):
to the ho monkey list thing right right around. Shout
out to Wan, Yeah, shout out to Wann't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
I had him on the podcast set. I need to
get I need to get on that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
Oh yeah, he's filled with that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
I've seen him on so many podcasts. Yeah he's I'm
a fan, but he uh yeah. It's one of those
things like you're like, okay, do I want to open
that right now?

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
And here's and here's the thing too, here's here's the thing.
Start to get the meat on my mic. But there's
a book back here. It's called Exo Vaticana and it's
written by Tom Horn. And you know, he talks about
this idea of cameras and homunculuses and all of these
you know, public genetic programs and organizations that that the
quotes he shows you in his book about just the

(01:03:22):
ethical views that these scientists have. It's kind of scary
because the whole time, yeah, well, the whole concept of
a mad scientist. I never knew what that looked like
until you actually your ethics are tested by hearing what
people say. When it comes to creating life. It's like
a whole Frankenstein movie all over again, dude, right, Like

(01:03:44):
it's which they're coming out with a Frankenstein movie.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Because yeah, why doesn't someone just make a Bible movie?
That's like I know it didn't actually like the Bible,
I know, like like I've said this before, Phil Jackson
or not Phil Jackson, the guy did Lord of the Rings.
Come on, man, get on it, Like you can do this,
you can turn the Bible into the Yeah. I don't

(01:04:11):
think they want that though, because people will be like, wait,
what that's in the Bible? Like would it would just
wake everyone up? And of course they don't.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
I think it could lead to like a spiritual revolution
absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
So it's like we need to get a hold of
somebody at Angel Studios to get after it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Say, well, we'll get a hold of Jesse's dad, We'll
get a hold of Gary Wayne. I'll be an actor.
Jesse can be an actor. If you want to play
a role, let's go, well, all play Bigfoot.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
That posters I've played some roles before. You can't really
see it, but that poster I'm on the front of
a gun magazine right there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
I played a couple I did a couple of commercials.
I was I was like a hit man. That's the
weird part about this.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
That's funny. That's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
Hey man, we can do it, dude. You could be
you could be Bigfoot.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
I'll be a sator and then Doc Brown could be
the the Indiana Jones guy in the movie where he's
like he's encountering with all these things and he's like,
what did I do?

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Oh my god, turn it turn it into like oh
my gosh. Yeah, that's funny, But seriously, that's what really
needs to happen to blow the lid off all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
You know, Well, isn't Mel Gibson working on something maybe
the Passion of the Christ or I.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Think he is, But again, that's not what we need.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
I think. I mean, I think he's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
It's pretty awesome, Like Passionate of the Christ is an
amazing movie.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Yeah. When I when I heard him on Get Some Act,
That's what I'm saying, dude. When he was on Joe
Rogan's show, he kind of talked a little bit of
what he's gonna model it around and how I am
it implied to me that he was talking about like
fallen Angels. So yeah, he's like he's gone a little

(01:05:53):
rogue now, which is good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
I mean after that movie where there was the Aliens
where they were like holding his eyes open, you guys
that I can't it's insane that movie. He's just kind
of lost it really, just not not in a bad way,
just he's off the reservation from there. It's not the
right way to put it either, but you know what

(01:06:17):
I'm saying, he's definitely he's not one of the blessed
Hollywood folk anymore. Yeah, he's funding his own movies now.
It's like it's gone. You know, No, you're not going
to make that movie, Kevin. Oh, yes, I am right,
I will make it, and you know whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
Yeah, they gave him the dose. He's running with it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Yeah, hell's kind of doing the same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Speaking about Hollywood hard sharp turn. Did you did you
hear that Mike Myers got brought up in the ditty case?
No way, you didn't hear this yesterday? Mike Myers, Shrek,
Shrek himself.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Austin Powells, Austin Austin Follower.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
Yeah, he he literally didt he's former former agent or
former assistant. Mike Myers reached out because apparently did he's
that guy Mike Myers reached out to Diddy and wanted
to have a meeting with the CIA at Langley. Can
you believe that? So this happened, This happened, This happened,

(01:07:24):
Give it a goog. He did have the meeting. Mike
Myers went and toured Langley and then had lunch with whomever.
And this was, after all, he did all the Austin Powers,
so he was like an English spy in Austin Power.
So that was his role. Yeah, and this is after
all the movies were already made. So it's just it's
just kind of odd the way it's worded. The article

(01:07:46):
I read was just like kind of like, yeah, he
just toured like it's like he went to the museum
as well or something like you that. They said, It's
like cool, So did he had the connect? Interesting? He's
like the you know, the Epstein hip hop guy. Just
I thought that was funny.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
A little crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
I mean, yeah, well, did you guys also see speaking
of like people coming back from the dead kind of
thing with Epstein? But this is did you see that
the Argentinian president is releasing all the papers that they
have on Hitler.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
I heard about that briefly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Yea, because we know, we basically know at this point
that Hitler lived another twenty years in Argentina after yes, yeah,
even fathered more children. Sure, yeah, so so yeah, but
the Argentinian government is declassifying all their stuff on it.
I mean, we do have alpine villages in the mountains

(01:08:45):
of Argentia.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
No, right, I think there's octoberfests there. There's huge one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
But can you so it's October fests in Spanish.

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
In Spanish, that's very dark beer in Spanish.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
I even think some of the architecture also resembles yeah,
like insane. Well there's golly, I'm sure. Yeah, we're all
hidden at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
If you ever watched the show on History called Finding,
I think it was called Finding Tim Kennedy, right, Tim
Kennedy and Marty Scoveland and a couple other guys they're
they're all veterans, were on that show.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
And yeah, I have a question. I have a question
for you. What are your thoughts on that community in
that podcast world.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
I was for a long time were Yeah, my first
two podcasts were The first one was called Cigars and
Sea Stories, which was just Marine Corps Jackassery came out
around the same time as like Drinking Bros. And and
that whole stuff. We kind of, you know, I'm not
saying we're anything like them. We never got that big,

(01:09:56):
but you know, we had a we we had a
lot of followers, right, and it was.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Just it's a big community, man, It's huge.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
But then we transition to a more like helping veterans
in that podcast was called Change the changeer pov podcast.
But yeah, like veteran entrepreneurship is a pretty big thing.
Like it's a big community, right, with some really really
cool folks in it, But the veteran community in general, I.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Mean, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
Do you just try to stay out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
I'm just not in it like I used to be.
I I with the veteran entrepreneurship stuff. I definitely mentor
veteran entrepreneurs quite a bit. I am part of the
infrastructure that kind of goes around with veteran entrepreneurship. I
don't care if they hear these things. I talk about
it freely anyway. I let my freak flag fly. Yeah,

(01:10:56):
you know, even at even at these events. But yeah,
I mean full of a lot of good people. But
I mean it's just like any other community.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
I don't know, I don't know, it's pretty well.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
It seems like a lot of conflict them all. It
seems like it's like you get.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
All give me your take because then I can play
off of that we both have.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
I don't think it's a bad thing. I just think
that what we're what we're seeing is the personalities on
the ground, you know, on the line with military guys.
It's it's come into the podcast realm where it seems
like it's a you know, like it's a dick swinging contest.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
It's not only that, but it's it's like specific but
I met specifically specifically who's telling the truth and who's
not telling the full truth?

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Like their ship there no ship there. I was in
the jungle, you know whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Stories.

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
Yeah, And you know what I was telling my buddy
last night. He wants to buy his kid a BB gun,
and I like going out to the desert shooting guns.
And I've I've you know, I've I've brought myself into
the world. I was telling you about the magazine I
worked for a company that was called g Site and
we made dry fire training cartridges that were laser cartridges.
We had an app. They just went out of business.
I would I would go to a shot show and

(01:12:17):
it was a lot of fun. I got into the
I got into the realm, so I kind of understood
show Jesus man, cool stuff. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
The times have you just saying oh, yeah, well dude,
I'll tell you a story.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
If you guys want to hear it, yeah, go for it.
I want you to finish though.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
Okay, So long story short. My buddy's buying a gun,
and I'm like, dude, the whole, the whole like military
realm and like a gun safety world, and like the
etiquette of everything is very complicated. But I told him, like,
the most important thing is to eliminate your bad habits,
and you got to figure out what bad habits those are.
Like that's as a as a civilian and as a

(01:12:52):
as a normal person shooting a gun. Da da da
da da eliminate the bad heabies want to show his
kid out of shoot, Like, you need to learn that first.
And it's very complicated. But let's transfer to the military
aspect of the military round. I consider the military and
I'm a civilian. My brother's twenty two years maybe he
just retired. He was a weapon specialist on a boat

(01:13:13):
somewhere off and somewhere multiple times. Whatever. But the military realm,
with specops and stuff, it's over analysis paralysis in my opinion.
And these guys are just like on every millisecond, every millimeter,
like they're covering every millimeter and it is so wild

(01:13:33):
to me. And then you watch them go to the
podcast room and you see them do the same thing
in the podcast room where they're like, I'm going to
I'm gonna I'm gonna analyze what this guy's saying. I'm
gonna read his book. I'm going to analyze every millimeter
of what he's saying. And the moment he slips up,
I got hired to get him.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Yeah, I know, everybody embellishes. Everybody you know has their
own recollection right of and you know there like I
always say opinions like assholes and everyone's got one, and
they usually I'll.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
Think, right, well, it's like were you there? Yeah, that's
as simple as that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
And who cares? Who cares?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Right, It's not a life or death thing here, not
not not recounting it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
Right, Just like Steve, you're saying it's an ego thing,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Ego, and I always I can't with the ego.

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
What do you think about it?

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Ego?

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
There's a lot of ego in our u you know,
and all this too. And it's like I am, I
am a guy, and you know we've only talked twice,
but I think you know, at the end of the day,
I am a rising tides raises all ships guy, right,
And so I'm going to help you guys out do

(01:14:53):
the best that you can.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
Whether you're bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Than me, smaller than me, we can all learn some
thing from each other, right, right, and one years old.
I'm fifty one years old, right, and I've been in
this game for a while, not just the podcast game,
but I'm a entrepreneur, like I've run and sold businesses
so and stuff like that, like I do. We all

(01:15:16):
do things that nobody knows a damn thing about because
we don't talk about it on our online persona. Right now,
if you dig into each other, if I dug into Steve,
and I could probably find out where he went to
school and where he grew up. I could find out
how many property how much property taxes he's paying.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
You know what I mean, right, But but you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
It scares me, he says that because I know the
property tax that Stevie pays and it is phenomenal, and
he has found a loophole. But I cannot believe you
brought that up.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
That is right, I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
Just saying right now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
And this is why in the last two weeks I've
been accused of being a fed three times.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
Well, I don't I don't blame them.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
I am not a fed. Just so you know, I
don't know if I mean I was like you, But
see I do I do.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
You know when when you get to a certain point
in life, you you know things that other people just
don't like or you know how to find them. Right,
You can find out anything, man, you really can't. So
it doesn't mean you're a fed, right, It means I.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Mean I'm a paid. It doesn't mean I'm a paid.
What was it? What was it today?

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
You got one today?

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
Huh? Yeah, Well it wasn't just me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
It's it's the friends that we have. You you're friends
with them too, You've had them on your.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
No way, let's let's go through this, let's see it
trouble Garcia Yu.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Got accused of being a anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
I'm not a little bravery, right, I didn't. I didn't
meet him.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
He's such a good dude, such a good guy, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:16:51):
I really enjoyed. I wasn't for that. I wasn't there
for that podcast, but I listened to it and I
was like, dude, this is I like this guy because
I'm from Las Vegas. E d C came here and
like all my friends went and did that. I've never been,
but I saw the community build and I totally understand
exactly everything he was saying.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
I mean, I've done plenty. Let me put it this way.
Since you live in Vegas, you know Nellis Air Force Base,
been there? You know what goes on on Nellis Air
Force Base. Yes, I've been on nels the Air Force
Base a lot, doing a lot of training, shooting a
lot arounds.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
I've worked for the original og drone guys predator drones.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
But you know, so there's just stuff that happens when
you're in the military and folks that you get, you know,
exposed to, I mean like I was in Yeah. Anyway,
so you've worked at Nellis no, I just trained a
lot there, wow, well, in and out for probably about
two years. And we used to just go there and

(01:17:54):
bury our asses and brass.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
Yeah, it's fun. I do the same thing in the
desert as well, but not well, I don't have enough
money to bury that much brass.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Right, But and that was you know, that was like
contract day, government contracts.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
What did you think about the fighter jets buzzing the
houses nearby all day, like all morning every day?

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
And I don't know, probably not. I mean, it's not abnormal.
It depends on where you live, I guess so.

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
But the base is right there, there's so many.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
Go there loading next to an Air Force bace. What
do you expect?

Speaker 4 (01:18:25):
Man, it's so crazy to me, dude, they I mean,
because I.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
Think, doesn't nell Ust Toll have F fifteen's there? I
have no clue. I don't remember that. It doesn't matter.
I own.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
I'm a partial owner in a defense company where we
make stuff that glows in the dark, but only in
the infrared spectrum.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
So we have.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
A like one of our flagship products is a kran.
It's the best way to describe it. It's a cran
that you can write with and The only way that
you can see it at night is with night vision goggles,
so it glows. It's like a chems. It's like a
keem light, but an infrared kem light that you can write.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
With, right, kind of like Disney, you know Disney used
to do with Jake Paul.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Don't don't cut?

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Yes, and we so we we make some we make
some crazy products for the war fighter, I guess is
what you could say that's crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Yeah, well how about the new fort that's that's gonna
get drop?

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
And now what did they come out with an F
five two that's like an ancillary Yeah, I mean it's
like the F twenty two and five right, it's the
same kind of one as a multi roll in the
other one is a air superiority fighter.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
What are your thoughts with AI being the superior controller?

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Terrifying?

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
Like that? I don't know, man, you think of the
movie's stealth exactly? Well? Yeah, remember or like determinator or
like where are we going? Why are we going?

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
Can I can? I say this real quick? Ran into
a lot of fascinating people throughout the last nine years
here as a residential plumber in Vegas, all over the place.
I mean a lot of crazy people. Some stories I
think might be out there, some are not. I ran
into a guy that was like eighty six years old,
like seven or eight years ago, and he told me,
it's a long story short. He told me, like, all

(01:20:18):
the aircraft you see, he worked on the SR seventy one.
He said, all the aircraft you see is is an
antique by the time it's disclosed to you. Yeah you
believe that, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Yeah, So like the F one seventeen, the stealth fighter.
But I don't know why the hell they called it
the F one seventeen, but that was the Gulf War.
That was the one that was flying in the rag Dad. No,
it was the It's like the the not the bat Wing,
the smaller one that looks like a triangle.

Speaker 4 (01:20:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
I mean that plane started to being developed in the sixties, right,
and we didn't really it didn't make its debut on
combat until the nineties.

Speaker 4 (01:20:56):
So yeah, right, right, Well, what makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
A lot of it was almost obsolete before it even started,
because then you have the B two bombers, which are
still being used now.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
The bat Wing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
I mean, dude, we have some terrifying stuff. It's actually
not even fair. I mean, it's fair and that that
is a deterrent right, And that's what have people have
to understand. When you have such superiority with certain things,
there's got to be somebody in the way. It's what
it is is can we as a nation and our

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leadership use that responsibly? And that's that's the ship we
run into. These are the problems that we run into
because it's like having that omnipotent god. That's you've got
to have somebody with a big ass stick that's going
to keep people from keep people online and on. The
US has traditionally been that way. Yeah, well we've lost

(01:21:53):
a lot of credibility.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
The thing is it's like, yes, kind of has like
generation five fighters as well, or generation you know, working
on generation six, but they have like three of them.
Even if they had twelve of them, it doesn't matter.
It's just not a fair fight.

Speaker 4 (01:22:11):
It's it's not man. The stuff I've seen out here
in the desert and the sky all in the same place.
You wouldn't believe me if I told you it's and
I'm positive it's the military. It's aerospace, aerospace programs, biglow.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
It's insane.

Speaker 4 (01:22:24):
Yeah, it's if I absolutely, there's no explaining it to you,
Like there's the stuff I've seen out in the desert,
Like there's only been a few things, a couple three things.
It's undescribable. It's insane. It's just like you would think
that's a alien technology.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
Yeah, well and maybe it is.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
Yeah, maybe it's maybe it is angel technology.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
Or for yeah, dude, you know what's crazy. I'm looking
it up here. And one of the things about the
forty seven that I found most interesting with its AI
is that it's AI can learn from battlefield conditions and
it and it adapts to evolving threats and scenarios. So
with that concept, I think of, you know, normal AI

(01:23:10):
basically which what we use on everyday basis pretty much which.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Large language models are you know, that's not it's AI,
but it's not a.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Right right right, And for its case, you know, I
looked up and I was like, you know, how does
AI learn? Like what's the what's the processor behind it?
And so I found that it's called r l h F.
It's called reinforcement learning from human feedback. So it's basically
pulling in all the data and it's like synthesizing its

(01:23:40):
own humanity. And but from everything else in the world,
you know, and every one of the reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
They keep it on the lag too, so they can
control it more. Yeah, right, so they keep it in
a closed loop most of the time.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Well, isn't it scary we're up against something that's studied.
Oh wait, we know sky nets kind of. It's just
when well, it's it's that we're in the stage where
it's learning and it's studying, but it can also be
you know, like all that could be used against us.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Yeah, the f I mean it's terrifying, Steven.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
You have the is going to start learning tactics, it's
going to start learning strategies.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Here's here's what we have to The only way that
I can get through all this and this is and
and I think this is just lessons learned.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Is first off, we believe in Jesus Christ, right, and
that whatever is going to happen is going to happen. Wow,
And that and that really we can we can. I mean,
this goes for all the ship that we do anyway
with knowledge, Like the search of knowledge is good, but
it can go overboard, right, it can take control of us,

(01:24:55):
especially with things that we can't control. Sometimes it's cool
to know, but what is knowing?

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Get you right?

Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
Brother? AI has taken over. It's taken over.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
It's absolutely going to take over. And there's nothing that
we can do.

Speaker 4 (01:25:10):
There's nothing that we can do.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
And Door's box.

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
And you know the crazy thing is that we opened it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
We did. Well, what did the pope open? You opened something?
Something that was weird? That was the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:25:23):
Did you see the guys with the out the ear?

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
Yeah? What was that?

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
I mean, were they wearing or was it normal men
wearing those you know the weird mask with the blue men?
But what was going on there? No, that's what I mean.
But you know, how like when you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
We know about the mask game with I don't know,
but but but what I'm saying, So where I'm going
with this though, is that Yes, I think as humanity
goes forward, maybe maybe, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
This is a theory I heard put forth a little
while ago. Maybe the Antichrist is Ai.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
Okay, dude, dude, you're opening up a whole another We
me and Stevie have gone down this right now.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
Basically great minds think alike? Man, that's it?

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
What's the image? Stevie described the image?

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Do you want me to bring this up. Just just
just do it as best you can as broadcasting seeds. Stevie,
I know exactly where to go.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Give me a second here, you just dumped bees all
of that right into the to the freaking why.

Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
Did Okay, let me say this first before Stevie talks,
says that why did why did Elon Musk just go
on Joe Rogan whatever a few months ago, a couple
months ago, and he said, listen, we have AI right
now that's smarter than the smartest person on the planet.

(01:26:45):
But by twenty twenty nine or twenty thirty, we will
have an AI smarter than every single human on the
planet combined. There's no stopping you. Now, there's no stopping it.
He didn't say there's no stop I added that, but
he he's saying those that's the timeframe. By twenty twenty
nine or twenty thirty, we are going to have an

(01:27:05):
AI that is unstopable. It can do whatever it wants. Yeah, man,
that's Genesis, that's the sky.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
Neet. Well, I'll tell you what. I'll make these two
comparison comparisons right here, right So when we look at
the life of Christ, we know that the devil is
going to imitate everything that He did and invert it
in some way or shape or form. You know, Christ
went through childhood, he was a baby, went through childhood,

(01:27:37):
went through adolescens, went through young adulthood, and then you know,
at the age of thirty started his ministry, right, And
so what I see with that is God took the
process of of you know, going through all of those stages.
Now AAI is going through those same stages. And when

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you dig into Revelation thirteen, it's probably one of the
most impactful chapters in Revelation talks about you know, talks
about the false prophet, talks about the man of Sin,
talks about the image of the Beast, and this whole
ritual that goes on in the midst of all of
these characters coming together at this point in time. And

(01:28:24):
you know, when I get into the Image of the
Beast and I look at it, we'll read it right here.
So it says in Revelation chapter thirteen, first, let me find.

Speaker 6 (01:28:37):
It here real quick, okay, okay, okay, all right. So,
and it was given unto him to make war with
the saints and overcome them. I'm sorry, let me go
up a little bit more butchering.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
That's real quick. Hold on, let me find it here.
Continue on, let me find this thing on.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
Have you guys ever heard of the book or watch
the show American Gods.

Speaker 4 (01:29:02):
Write that one down.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
It's on Stars.

Speaker 4 (01:29:05):
It was like stars og.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
Oh yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Like seventeen through twenty one, like you know, nineteen seven
twenty Old American Gods. You know, it's called American Gods,
and it's basically it's it's actually a book by Neil.

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
Gammon, I think, so you say his name, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
And it's a mythological fantasy adjacent novel that that kind
of explores what happens when the old gods, and that's
i'll say, the old gods, like little g gods right
from various world religions, find themselves displaced in modern.

Speaker 4 (01:29:53):
Whoa, oh dude, I'm gonna have to check that one out.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
It's a little twisty god's like Odin, which his name is,
and so so it's it's educational too because it it's
actually Odin. But his name in the book and in
the show is mister Wednesday. What what But you guys
know what Wednesday is named after Wolden. It's Wolden's Day.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
I did not know that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
Yeah, so just take what what it'll do is it's
a it's just a lesson in wolden Day. What's that
that's Wednesday. Look at the origin of Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Yeah, yeah, Wolden's Day. Yeah right, something like that, Odin's Day,
we Day, wedness Day. Right. But I say that every
time I read it, every time, every time, every time.
All right, well, let's hear this verse. Okay, oh, go ahead,
go ahead, all right, So right, Revelation thirteen. This is

(01:30:54):
talking about the beast right coming out of the sea,
this huge Atlantean style empire, and there's a false prophet character,
there's a man of sin, right, and so we're here
at Revelation thirteen. Verse fourteen. It says, and to see
with them that dwell on the earth, by the means
of those miracles which he had power to do, on

(01:31:15):
the side of the beast, saying to them that dwell
on the earth, that they should make an image to
the beast which had the wound by a sword and
did live. So this man, who is not you know
fully possessed by Satan, just yet suffers a fatal headwoond
he dies and it, you know, is and is again right,

(01:31:37):
So we have that inverti and we have that exactly,
we have the counterfeit of what you know of what
he's doing against Christ, right, and so after that it says,
and he had power to give life onto the image
of the Beast, that the image of the Beast should
both speak and cause that as many as would not

(01:31:58):
worship the image of the East should be killed. Like
right there is the apotheosis ritual of the Antichrist, like
we have. We have when you look at Washington d C.
You see that there's a you know, a lot of
Roman and Egyptian architecture, and it's there for a reason.
Do you have the obelisk which is in front of
the Egypt all that ancient Ocyrus rising, all of that,

(01:32:22):
all those rituals right, Well, when you look at when
you look at that tradition and you look at that
ritual and you look at the ancient cultures that have
gone through it, they're trying to usher in their God.
But they they they they do it with every pharaoh
and president that comes through the system. They're just waiting

(01:32:43):
for that reincarnation process to take place.

Speaker 5 (01:32:46):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
So when we're looking at the image of the beast.
He's like, it says here, it says it's it says
right here, you know we should this is after the
death and resurrection, not resurrection, reincarnation. It's reincarnation, right, because
it's not it's not the man that actually died, it's

(01:33:08):
now it's sitaning sort of. Yeah, that's how I kind
of look at from from my perception with with the
image of the beast, because it says after the death
of that person, you know, it's given life into the image,
after they created this this image. You know, maybe it's
a homunculous because when I think of this, of this
scenario playing out, it reminds me of the movie X Men.

(01:33:31):
It reminds me of the movie X Men Apocalypse where
they in the beginning, right in the beginning of the movie,
you have this ritual that's taking place where it's trying
to transfer the consciousness of the main number one mutant
from its dead state into a new living body. And
I mean, when you look at Washington, d C. We

(01:33:52):
have the crypt of George Washington, then we have the
potheosis of George Washington. It's the same thing. And maybe
this is what happens. I don't don't know, but it's
ai consciousness that goes.

Speaker 4 (01:34:03):
Into this imagine thing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
Hear me out right here.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
It's transhumanism as well.

Speaker 4 (01:34:09):
Yes, that's exactly what it is. So imagine Elon Musk
is sitting on an operating table and they're putting a
chip into his head and then he flat lines and
then he comes back to life, and then he wakes
up and now he is sentient or whatever you want
to call.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
Well, he's not himself anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:34:29):
He's not himself anymore. He's not his original self.

Speaker 5 (01:34:33):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
No, man, there's there's so many Oh, it just gets
so wild, and like theories go wild, they do.

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
You know what's crazy too is the movie the movie
Avengers Age of Ultron. The same scenario is playing out.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Well, I mean even Harry Potter man looking at you know,
he doesn't have his body anymore, and there's all this
hero's journey stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
Then you know Harry had a like should have been
a mortal headwound.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
Yeah, and he.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
Lived and they lived, right, So I mean you know
what I mean? So if is wild, Wednesday is Woden's Day.
Tuesday comes from Old English Wolden's Dag meaning Woden's day.
The Anglo Saxon form of Odin is Woden the all Father.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
Thursday is Thursday Thursday. You know what that makes me
think of? Now? It makes me think like when this
let's say that when this process is taking place, they're
going to use these days with their actual meaning. Maybe, right,
idea is Frigg's day or Freyer's day, depending on the source. Right,
I can't Odin be compared to like Lucifer or Zeus or.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
Yeah, well Thorp could definitely be compared to Zeus Odin.
You know, there's there's so many different correlations there, right,
I mean, bottom line, like god Odin was the god
of wisdom, war, death, poetry, magic, prophecy, sacrificed his eye
for the wisdom, right, hung himself from the world tree,

(01:36:13):
pierced by his own spear for nine days to gain
knowledge of the ruins. Right, Like, there's so many corresponding
and allegorical things that go on here, you know, with
the little g gods. Lots of esoteric and like biblical
parallel stuff. Right, It's insane and no, yeah, but American

(01:36:39):
Gods is actually really cool show. It just kind of
gives you an insight to some of the other from
around the world. So what I've found myself doing is
like pausing and like looking up the different gods at
they're talk I mean, Easter Rights, you know, Eustra. I mean,

(01:37:03):
it's so blatant ishtar.

Speaker 4 (01:37:06):
Yeah, right, it's crazy fertility God and so.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
Well, it's just and this is why the church you
can only take it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
So seriously with religion.

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
You know, the Word of God is totally different, so right,
you know, I mean, as we know, traditional American Christianity
is very watered down, you know, right. And I'm not
saying we need to go full deliverance ministry because that

(01:37:48):
has its own set of issues as well, right where
they corrupt things. And anyway, there's just got to be
like this, this tuditious thing where we figure out something
in the middle and what does the Bible say, right,
Because I think the rest is distraction, Like you and I,
Steven have talked a lot about the Satan's Little season,

(01:38:11):
my opinion is just a giant distraction to keep people
from coming. It's sowing seeds of doubt. Hence the name
broadcasting seeds. These are seeds of doubt. In people's minds.
What's really what does it really mean to be Christian?
What do I actually believe?

Speaker 4 (01:38:28):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Right, that's a big opinion of mine. Yeah, I think
that it's smoking mirrors, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:38:36):
The little Season thing, it's interesting. I mean, of course
it's interesting. It's just you know, I think there's a
lot of things that take place before the Little Season
that are kind of like it's like the scars that
are left on the earth for people to see. You know, Hey,

(01:38:57):
the you know wow talked about the millennial. You know,
all these things really happen, you know, in everyone's view.
So it's it's difficult to digest because a lot of
the you know, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
I think that people get so caught up in the
minutia of human thinking that it doesn't allow them to
think outside the box enough to understand the Bible completely, right.
I think that they're trying to play by our societal

(01:39:33):
and cultural rules and and take that and transfer it
to to a supernaturally induced document written by God through
other people.

Speaker 5 (01:39:45):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
Like, I've met a couple folks that they just can't
handle that. It's like, do you not understand actually that
the Bible is written as by different profits or different
people telling the same story, Like, so yeah, they don't,
they might not all remember it exactly the way they're right,

(01:40:07):
it's the same. So what you have to do is
take all those stories and yes you're going to jump
back and forth and back and forth, and you put
these things and where does everything rhyme and come together?

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
It's fascinating how it does.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
It does, Stephen actually does, but so many people don't
see it that way and because it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 4 (01:40:27):
To them, well, ignorance, lack of knowledge, lack of information.
I don't want to get into dispensationalism, but Stevie talks
about that a lot as well, and it's a fascinating topic.
Like I think it's really important to talk about. But
going back to the Little Season, I will counter the
there's also another side of it to where now you

(01:40:50):
have the people that didn't ever think of Jesus or
believe in the Bible start to think of Tartaria and
lost time and hitting time, and then they find out
they actually find out the story of Jesus and they
they they actually look into it and they are brought

(01:41:11):
to God that way as well, brought to Jesus.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
Yeah, you no, absolutely, you know that can happen to
the people that do that too, of course.

Speaker 4 (01:41:19):
You know that. That's but to say that though, to
go back to that, it's like what we got to
have ed Mabriam. You know we were so good?

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
Yeah, yeah, we have them on soon.

Speaker 4 (01:41:29):
I mean complicated topic.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
Yeah, it is, but it's not I it's yeah, no,
But I really don't think it's that because I think,
like I said, I think a lot of the folks
get caught around these little details of like the time stuff,
like but who cares, right, because here's the deal with
the Bible. Well, it doesn't even matter because some of

(01:41:53):
the Bible doesn't make sense either time wise, like the
and I don't even say it. You know, you've got
the six nine weeks, right, and then we're like.

Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
In this that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
In this limbo between the sixty ninth and the seventieth week, right.
But just the fact that we don't know how long
that is drives people insane. They're like, no, that can't
be real because we don't know yet. Well that's kind
of the point. Is it's not your time frame again,
it's this is the Bible again? Is not a story

(01:42:27):
about us. Either the Bible is a story about God
and it's his story, it's not ours.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
Well how could we you guys agree with that? But
I mean, there's only one way to learn who God is,
and it's it's it's it's his story, you know, you know,
And then a lot of people will bash you know,
well why well, if you knew this was going to happen, well,
why did he allow it to happen?

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
He lives outside of that, right, right, And people can't
grasp Well what I think.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
One thing that sticks to me too is like, how
else you know, because I'm a fan. We're all fathers,
you know, and I see life in a different lens now,
I actually see it from a little bit closer to
like God's I view of things.

Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
Right, You're taking care.

Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
Of them, frustrated as God? Do you think? Right? Well?
The thing is is I can't show my kid how
much I love them unless they make mistakes, unless they
do something that's wrong and I punish them and then
they feel hurt, and then I go and I show them, Hey,
I love you. It's okay, you know, gird up. You're

(01:43:35):
gonna screw up a lot more. But I'm right here,
but I have to teach you. You know, it's a lesson. Well.

Speaker 4 (01:43:41):
I love doing that with my eight year old son.
He's at the age now where that's exactly. I get
to sit down and have conversations with him. And when
I when I I don't want to say punish, when
I take his phone away, which he doesn't have a phone,
but when I take things away from him, and because

(01:44:04):
he's acting up and then or he's not doing what
I want him to do and he's not listening, and
I sit down with him at night and I go
over those things. I love you, buddy. I'm doing this
for your benefit. You will only get stronger if you
learn this and you learn discipline, and it's a beautiful

(01:44:26):
thing and your show rights, Stevie. That's exactly where the
true love comes. It's not like, hey, good job at
everything you do and give him a hug, give him
a trophy around every corner. It is the discipline. It
is the hard, hard road travel and then showing them, hey,
I love you. I'm bringing you down this road because
I love you.

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
Best way I've found. And I've raised four daughters and
my oldest is thirty and my youngest is sixteen, and
I am the poster child post or father for natural.

Speaker 4 (01:45:02):
Consequences, touch the how it stove.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
And it's it's hard to father that way a lot
of times, right, because you're like, dude, just listen to
what I tell you and everything will be okay. But
that's not how it works, not how folks learn children
children and people us to adults. You literally only learn

(01:45:29):
two ways, right, mindless repetition or blunt force trauma.

Speaker 4 (01:45:35):
Yeah, I mean it's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
Yeah, I mean, and and if you live life that way,
you just have to look at those things and that
part is black and white, but there's so much gray
in between, right, And that's this is kind of how
I think God is. And sometimes you get the blunt
force trauma, but a lot of it's mindless repetition, you know,

(01:46:01):
doing the right thing over and over again, even when
no one's looking. So we talk about character, right, Yeah,
you know, I.

Speaker 3 (01:46:08):
Don't know this whole this whole life that we live.
Our experience starts I guess at a certain conscious level
when we're young, and then it gets to a point
to where we're old, and then we look back and
we're like, I can't remember when I first started. I
can't remember the beginning. I can't remember the first few weeks, right,

(01:46:29):
or even months or years. I can't remember it. And
what's what's interesting to you, right, is because we every
man and every woman's going to experience the first death
right unless like you're raptured out of here for some reason.
But it when you look at life at from from
you know, ten x zoom right, if that makes any sense,

(01:46:50):
but you're super super zoomed out. You're looking at it
from a big scale. You know, when we see, you know,
life brought into this world, it went from one estate
to the other, like it went from the womb. It
went from where it was created. It went from where
it was created to where it was destined for. And

(01:47:11):
so I see the same thing with with life and death.
And and you know, our home is with Christ and
our home is after death. Pretty much our time here,
you know, we're it's like we're in the womb. Wow.
And and and we're with our our Earth, which is
Mother Earth, right, like the creator or not the Creator.

(01:47:33):
I'm sorry, but you know we can't. We came from
the Earth. It's like the umbilicaccord. Gonna get some hate
for that, but you know, you know what I meant.
But look at that, right, You've got the umbilical cord
at each of the baby. You got us created from
the dust, and so there will be that, you know.
Death to me is like is the birth you know,

(01:47:55):
to where I mean, we're a new body, right, it's
all we're in our actual state to where we're like, yes,
this is who I am.

Speaker 4 (01:48:01):
I don't know, you sound like a hippie state.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
It just totally makes sense, though, I mean, here's the
thing that was like so much makes sense, like the
I know, like reincarnation isn't brought and I don't mean
reincarnation and like a Buddhist type of sense, I mean
like near death experience, like the stories that a lot
of folks that have near death experiences come back with

(01:48:26):
this knowledge that we kind of are up in heaven
or whatever you want to call it, in this collective
type of consciousness to an extent, but it's not an
individ it's not a collect It is a collective consciousness,
but you're all individuals, right, And I don't know if

(01:48:49):
I believe that, but it sounds kind of cool, like
meaning like you chose to come down here, and learn
in the flesh, just like Jesus did.

Speaker 4 (01:49:03):
Right, did you choose to or did God give you that?

Speaker 3 (01:49:08):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
It's what I'm wondering because a lot of people talk
about contracts and they talk about things like this is
what I'm going down there to learn this time.

Speaker 4 (01:49:17):
It's fascinating when you look at the that spark of
light that they see in the womb of conception, Right.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
Isn't that crazy? It's like they have it on video, Yes,
they have it on video. What is that called? There's
a name for it though, but it's not the life
of life. Besides that smart as the a zinc something
or other and I.

Speaker 4 (01:49:36):
Oh, yeah, yeah, you think you're right, yeah zinca yeah yeah, no, yeah,
I think it's something with zinc.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
Yeah yeah, but it's that little flash, right, but I
don't know. And it's like that's when that consciousness is
put in in there, yeah, like souls.

Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
So like what is this?

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
What's crazy? Is that? John One actually kind of like
may reference this, so it says in the beginning was
the word that in the word was with God, and
the word was God. The same was in the beginning
with God. All things were made by him. And without
him was not anything made. That was made in him
was life, and the life was the light of men.

(01:50:19):
So I don't I don't know if you could take
that verse was the light of men, And I don't
know what that really means.

Speaker 4 (01:50:24):
Well knows well, I feel like sometimes men means humans. Sure,
it's not just it's not just like a man or
a woman right.

Speaker 3 (01:50:34):
In him life and the life was the light of men,
the living soul. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? Though?

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
Like, have you ever watched any of those near death
experience podcasts? Some of them are pretty they're wild, like wow,
like they're wild like but really touching, amazing stories.

Speaker 4 (01:50:53):
Right my dad Actually, we had my dad on and
he brought up a couple of them, and I've seen
him as well, and it's like, it's crazy how these
people had like they die either see Jesus or their
their loved ones, and they come back talking about seeing
their grandma or their mother and it's like or yeah,

(01:51:14):
just it's so accurate to a point to where it's like,
how do you not believe.

Speaker 3 (01:51:18):
You know what? You know what playing ground? I think
it can, it can, it can lean into though, I
think it could be a spiritual war right there too.
And this is from a near experience that I heard,
and it was a guy who basically he was dead.
He was in his ghost body outside of his you know,
his actual body, walking around and there's his family members
are there, right his his old family members are there,

(01:51:41):
but they're in like a younger form, and they're telling
him it's his time to go. It's his time to go,
come with us. And so he had this eerie feeling
because on the other side of him, this big pit
opened up and he just knew it was just like
full of it was just empty. It was that's a
turn right, right. But his family members were like, hey,

(01:52:05):
come with us, it's your time. And and so he's
like hesitant and he kind of and he's stopping himself
from fully committing, and this light shines from behind him
and he's like and as soon as the light shined
in his mind, he knew it was an impostor. He
knew it was an impostor. Absolutely yeah. And so when

(01:52:28):
that happened, his family members started to change and they
got upset and they went into the pit, and he
went he went back into his body, and he found
God and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
What, brother, Like, that's but that's the type of stuff
like that's spiritual warfare, just at a different level.

Speaker 3 (01:52:46):
Right, brother.

Speaker 4 (01:52:47):
My dad has been talking about the pan spermia kind
of the astronaut theory maybe, but no, that the the
soul catcher on the moon. You've heard of that, right,
So there's this reincarnation process to farm. It's a it's
a plan sper me like, to farm the souls, right.

(01:53:09):
And my dad's like telling me, and I've heard this.
He he heard this from me. He doesn't. I'm not
saying he fully believes it, but he's certainly souduced and
fascinated by it. And I rebuke that, I really do,
but he believes. He's like, well, I shouldn't say he believes,
but he was telling me. He goes. You know, some
of these people talk about like what if going to
the light is reincarnating into the soul catcher and then

(01:53:33):
you just keep you're in the you stay in the loop.
But what if you turn around and go the other
way where you should be? And I'm like, goodness, gracious,
I'm like, I'm like that sounds it sounds rough, but
I'm like, what you just said, just reminded me of that,
because it's like, dude, go towards the light, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:53:52):
Well, I just said, but here's this.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
I'm just reading this real quick. It's this core claim.
So it's the soul farm on the moon. So the
core claim is that the Moon is not a natural
satellite but an artificial or repurposed construct that acts as
a soul trap, soul recycling station, or spiritual farm operated

(01:54:15):
by arconic, reptilian or demonic entities. After death, human souls
are intercepted by a false light tunnel, are judged and
memory wiped, are reincarnated back on Earth for another cycle
of suffering. This is a This is described by some
as the soul trap matrix theory. I've never heard of them,

(01:54:42):
so a gnostic cosmology. Gnostic gnostics believe the world is
ruled by arkans or lower celestial beings who trap divine
sparks souls in flesh, which would just be like fragmented souls, right,
So fragmentation theory that they use them to like spark

(01:55:03):
clones and all kinds of.

Speaker 4 (01:55:05):
Eat their flesh, eat their soul, consume they're there. What's
it called their what's it called Stevie. When they they
take your they they absorb the loose energy energy.

Speaker 3 (01:55:20):
You know what's so funny in all the alien movies, Man,
they come here for a resource. They come here to
harvest something to either the water from the ocean and
you know, Battle of Los Angeles or if if it's
war the worlds where they're like, oh, we need the
humans to fertilize the planet and to make it abundant
with food. They were just you know, our bacteria killed them, right.

Speaker 4 (01:55:45):
I don't think it's hilarious about about the ocean and
about like one of these theories that the the UFOs
they're the reason why they go into the water is
because they power their ships with hydrogen. I don't believe that.
I think they live there.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
I think they Yeah, No, I mean this Stephen gets
into David Ike and reptilian agen and.

Speaker 4 (01:56:06):
Where did that come from?

Speaker 3 (01:56:07):
I fall him a little bit with some things and somethings.
Oh he gets wild.

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
But David Ike popularized blah blah blah, believes it helps
power the matrix simulated reality run by Reptilian over the lords.

Speaker 3 (01:56:22):
Yeah, well you.

Speaker 4 (01:56:23):
Know where he got that was, who's the one lady
from like the late eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundreds, that
talked a lot about so much stuff, which is freaky.
I had never really dove into her. I can't remember
her name, though. She talked about a lot about reptilians,
and that's where David Ike drew from her. From her books.

Speaker 3 (01:56:43):
What was her name?

Speaker 4 (01:56:44):
Famous? Famously, everybody in the community talks about her. What
was her name?

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
I mean the reptilians thing, you know, that could also
be teraphim, you know, I mean, if you really think
about it, if you want to bring it back to
the Bible, Seraphim are known now the snakes or their
reptilian angels or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:57:10):
Yeah, right, right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
I think we could probably go on for hours doing this.
I know, I love it, but we are at two hours.

Speaker 3 (01:57:22):
Maybe let's go. Yeah, we did it, did it.

Speaker 4 (01:57:25):
We did it, guys, broke the barriers. This was just
therapy for you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:57:29):
Thank you. Good.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
Hey, it turned into something I wasn't expecting. But that's
fine because it's not my it's my show, but it's
not my show, you know what I'm saying. I don't
like talking so much, but you know, yeah, Michael Heiser,
they bring him up here too. That dude's a wizard.
But either way, broadcasting seeds, right, what I want each

(01:57:51):
of you to broadcast your own seeds and plan some
seeds with our with my audience on you know, things
that you think on or that you would like people
to think on, and you know, plant some seeds.

Speaker 4 (01:58:07):
Wow, beautiful Steve Ego firstus time.

Speaker 3 (01:58:11):
Yeah, no, so first of all, you know, thanks for
having us on, man, and what a conversation it was.
But if I was to share anything, you know with
the audience, it's it's seek truth and you know, find
your own path to the truth, you know, and it
really it all comes from our interaction with you know,

(01:58:34):
what we have going on in our lives and our
world and all that. Everyone's experience is different. You know,
dive into conspiracies. I think it'll bring you to the Bible.
And if you dove into the Bible first, I'd say, hey,
trail it to conspiracies because there's there's so many connections, man,
you know, I think there's a lot of supernatural things,

(01:58:54):
especially the concepts that we get into and talk about
that have deeper explanation and deeper meaning. Just giving the
Bible a chance if that is, you know, tough to swallow.
But yeah, man, I mean, jeez, I think we broadcasted
a lot of seeds in this episode. I like, yeah,

(01:59:14):
you know, go back, man, you know, and some of
the things we brought up, you know, go check them out.
And you know, if you want to come and you know,
check out our show. You can find us on YouTube.
There's a bunch of broadcasting seeds on there, man, and uh,
you know, pick and choose which one you want to
dive into. No, We're on all kinds of social media's
to Instagram, x, Facebook and all of the places the

(01:59:39):
biblical hit.

Speaker 4 (01:59:41):
Amen. Amen, all right. My My message is we all
fall short of the glory of God, and we all
are an example of that, and try not to judge
so much. Try to try to keep an open mind
in a way to where you don't fall into traps.
I guess you can say, keep an open mind. I

(02:00:05):
not long ago falling into those those gnostic traps, and
I didn't know that very very not that long ago.
I've gained faith. And I had a story where I
was in my grandmother's bedroom after her funeral. I slept
in her bedroom after her funeral, and I was in
a really hard time in my life. And I was

(02:00:25):
on the ground and I was doing push ups because
I was just really angry. And I fell to the
ground and I was crying and I said, I said God,
I said, Jesus, specifically, show me that you're real. I
don't believe you're real. Just please show me you're real.
And I had a hand touch my back and it
lit my body up with warmth, and I sat up
and was like, well, it felt like it wasn't a

(02:00:49):
lot of people would say it's your grandma. Did not
feel like my grandma's hand. Ever since then, I tried
to look more into the Bible and to to follow
that way. And I fell again and fell again, and
fell again and fell again. So don't give up. Just

(02:01:09):
be a good person. That's that's my that's my Just
be a good person. Just try to try to try
your best to look for the truth.

Speaker 2 (02:01:17):
Like Stevie said, I I'm a firm believer that, like
when you bring up the gnostic trap, it's kind of
the way it is, right, It's it's very alluring, that
secret knowledge.

Speaker 3 (02:01:33):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:01:33):
This is why I think that the Little season is
Satan's little season. It's this this twisted like allure of
the secret knowledge and esoteric wisdom. You know that we're
all it's it's very alluring to.

Speaker 3 (02:01:47):
All of us.

Speaker 2 (02:01:48):
But at the end of the day, and this is
the seed that I'm going to drop today, and I don't.
I haven't really talked a lot about it. I mean, yeah,
I'm a Christian. I'm just getting deeper into this though.
If it's the lynch pin is not Jesus, something ain't right. Yeah, no,
absolutely it's And it's really that simple. It's really that simple.
If this doesn't if the lynch pin to all of

(02:02:12):
the stuff you're you're looking into or believing and what
you want to believe. If the lynch pin isn't that
Jesus Christ died for our sins, He's your Lord and savior,
it's not.

Speaker 4 (02:02:27):
Trust me, your life will change, your perspective will change.

Speaker 2 (02:02:32):
It will because a lot of the stuff will fall away.
It's yet, it's cool to look at it, but it
doesn't mean the same thing.

Speaker 4 (02:02:39):
You have to believe. You have to have faith.

Speaker 3 (02:02:41):
You do. You have to have that faith.

Speaker 4 (02:02:43):
And how you get brought there. I got brought there
from that. I can't say that you'll get brought there
from the same reason. I can't say how you'll get
brought there. I don't know, but just keep looking, keep
looking for the truth, ye and ask right, asking right to.

Speaker 2 (02:02:59):
Have a You can have a relationship unless you have
a relationship exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:03:03):
Just to just to capitalize on what you said about
the Little Season and stuff, there are certain things that
have brought people to the Bible, that there's certain conspiracies
that you know, gravitate people towards the Bible in whatever
certain way it is. But don't let the conspiracy be
the foundation of your faith. And if you can build
an actual relationship with Christ and work off that, that

(02:03:27):
would be a seed I'm broadcasting because don't don't let
these conspiracies that seem to have no end to the
to the rabbit hole, right not to where like for example,
that little season and with Tartaria and all this other
conspiracies that that lean people to that you know, Christ

(02:03:48):
already came and reigned. I compare it to very similar
things like like flat earth, right, Like, there's a lot
of interesting things with flatter right, but you just don't know,
and don't don't lean on the conspiracy so much to
having it be the structure of your faith. It's it's
reverse it. Because let's just say, who knows, right, Like

(02:04:10):
we talk about syops on the show all the time,
what if these are syops to get you to fall
away from the faith once it's been either exposed or
disproven or debong whatever it is. Because it'll shoot you down,
it'll destroy you. You'll be lost almost indefinitely because you're like,
whoa hold on? Where am I at?

Speaker 2 (02:04:29):
The powers that are trying to do this have been
doing this for thousands of years and they're really really
good at it, and they know exactly what you're thinking.
So how do you combat that? You combat that with faith.
That's what you combat it with.

Speaker 3 (02:04:44):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (02:04:45):
You cannot shake me now, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:04:49):
It seems easy, but it's not easy, right, So what
is it? What's the I used to say it all
the time. It's simple, but it ain't easy.

Speaker 4 (02:04:59):
Better say than done.

Speaker 2 (02:05:05):
Guys, Thank you so much for coming.

Speaker 3 (02:05:07):
No, thank you, man. I appreciate the opportunity and it
was a good time. I hope to do it again
in the future. Of course.

Speaker 4 (02:05:13):
Absolutely had a long episode. This was the.

Speaker 3 (02:05:17):
Longest for me.

Speaker 2 (02:05:21):
All right, Guys, appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (02:05:22):
Thank you, brother, Thanks brother.

Speaker 2 (02:05:24):
He who controls the mind controls the war.

Speaker 3 (02:05:30):
But first he must silence the noise. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:05:37):
Straight from the catacombs where the scrolls was hidden, wearing
monks chant versus in the Watchman's risen broadcast to see.

Speaker 3 (02:05:44):
Son it ain't just a show.

Speaker 7 (02:05:46):
It's a frequency shift from the realm below and crypto
speech from the outer courts with the bloodline of kings
and celestial reports god net for lung second a backpack
word while these reptile suits try to sense of the word.

Speaker 3 (02:06:02):
Yo, why step through.

Speaker 7 (02:06:04):
Portals with the micas my torch, dropping sermons so raw
They send drums to the porch. They several what I
spit can't silence the flame got angels in camera with
encrypted names were talking black ops and black robes, falling
stars with zip codes, Temple scrolls and tom codst peace
with ten horns and stealth mode from Mount Herman and
the Grand Canyon faults with a smith Sony and beeries.

Speaker 1 (02:06:27):
Humanity's false.

Speaker 7 (02:06:28):
But we dig with the pen slight slides with the flow,
like Elijah on the mountain when the fire hit the show, Yo,
this is spiritual warfare and Seyyo, Holy scripts flipping through
the technicolor eryo no fiction, just friction between realms, dropping
balls like prophecy with Angelly Helm. So when you tune in,

(02:06:49):
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(02:07:12):
and cast a doubt out.

Speaker 2 (02:07:15):
I want to sweat your homes and the TETANSPSIC sent it
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