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Speaker 1 (00:10):
All right, we are live. Tim, tell us who you
are and what you do.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hey, thanks for having me on. Happy to be here.
I'm Tim Constantine. I have a podcast called sixth Sensory Podcast.
I focus on hidden history, alternative theories. They're a little
conspiracy in there, and just anything else that kind of
fits in between the cracks between those topics there and
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kind of just go where my interests lead me. And lately,
like it's just been fun getting to talk to other people,
you know, from around the world essentially and getting all
those different perspectives. So at the end of the day,
I think my show has grown because of all the
different perspectives that I've been able to bring in. So
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that's what it's kind of become lately.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Sure, where so where where can people find you? It's
the best place?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, and I know better. I should have said that already.
I know better. Been doing this for at least a
year now. So I'm on. I'm on. I'm on Spotify, Apple, YouTube,
and Patreon.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Okay, well, now where do you want people to go?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Let's just you know, if you like Spotify, stick stick
to Spotify, come find me on there. But yes, I
do video on Spotify on Spotify. Yeah, but I'm trying
to talk about Okay, I'll tell you, I'll tell you
about all about it. But uh yeah, I'm trying to
get people to come to my YouTube to answer your
question because I just started that racon.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
No, I got it. We were talking about how people
there's just people some some folks in our space, uh
are So yeah, it's tough. YouTube's tough, It really is.
But at the end of the day, a lot of
people are like, screw on my mine even gonna deal
with them? And then if you do either, you're a sellout.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well that's see. I mean, I'm I'm with you there.
I've put off being on YouTube for a long time
because of everybody I know in this space was being
censored on there.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Oh and they still are mostly mostly.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And I haven't hit that yet, you know, knock on
wood and but but there are episodes that I won't
put up there because I know, you know, I'm just
asking for it if I do. Yeah, and I don't know,
like on that vein, are there things that you don't
want discussed on? There's certain words you don't want discussed
on here.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh no, just do what you gotta do. I don't care.
I'll figure it.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Out, you know, like the JAB or any of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I always, yeah, I don't ever want to censor my
you know, because so what I'll do is, like we
talked about before, I'll either you know, I might maybe
I have to edit it or whatever. But at the
end of the day, I don't want to have to
do that. But sometimes you do because the way that
I answer folks in there sellout stuff is that's how
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I'm making money. Yeah, you know, and you can find
the unedited plenty of places, and you know, and I
think in the end we should all try to probably
build our own place that we can say whatever we
want you but but you know, that's a it's a
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tall order.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I'd love to see, like the the alternative to YouTube
pop up where there's.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Ye I mean, rumble is okay, right.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, but the place that's going to get the views
and get bring in people and all that and nothing
gets rumble.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
But you know, when they're trying, they are doing way better.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But you know, I could see Spotify becoming the next
YouTube and I think that they're trying to do that.
I get emails from them and it, you know, just
kind of reading between the lines and those emails, it
does seem like they're trying to move towards a YouTube
like model. Yeah, and I think they're trying to get
people to go to video and they're you know, they're
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taking these steps towards that. So we'll see, we'll see
and and you know, so far, so good with Spotify.
They have they've been great with me, They've let me.
I've only had one episode experience just a little bit
of censorship. But I don't think it was people at Spotify.
I think it was somebody with a back channel. They
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came in because you know, I was talking about a
whistleblower and there was censorship just dripping down all the
wall surrounding this case. It's this guy was on you
or Sorry, he was on Reddit. He decided to come
out and read it. And the thing with that is like, uh,
you know, not everybody wants to do the day of
a grush thing and and do lights camera action book
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deal Jeremy corfil By this. Not everybody wants all that attention.
So this guy decided he was going to come out
on it. Maybe it was four Chan first and then
he moved to Reddit, but either way, it was read
it and uh, it was only up for about two
days and read it, took it down, and that's that's
a that's a big problem. Read it. We were talking
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before we before you hit record, we're talking about this
infiltrated infiltration stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yes, I used to stick up for Reddit. I used
to think it was a cool community for people to
go and talk about alternative stuff, edgy stuff, whatever. It's
totally infiltrated by the I mean I just put out
some some UFO footage a week or two ago. It
was up for two hours on Reddit, and they took
it down. They took it because what happened was people
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were starting to comment on the footage and say, oh wow,
this actually looks legitimate, and as soon as people started
saying that, they jerked it.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah it's rough, it's rough. So with that being said,
what is Since I always ask the question, I guess
what got you into this this high strangeness space? You know? Well,
and what what was your gateway?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Well for high strangeness?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Well, I know they're distinctly different, but like you know,
how everything kind of rhymes yeah a little.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Bit, right, It's always been I've always just kind of
had a natural inclination for the high strange part, and
maybe even conspiracy too, because that is kind of where
my show is going, more towards us, towards trying to
untable history so we can get a better perspective of it,
and and conspiracy as well. I don't think I'll ever
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call it a conspiracy show, but that but that plays
because there is this there's a conspiracy around every corner
once you start to figure out what really happened with
our past. Yeah, but high strangeness. To answer your question,
I had my first UFO siding when I was seven.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
And then when I was ten and a half, right
before I turned eleven, and we moved into a house
that was I guess you could just call it a
haunted house. This stuff has always just kind of followed
me around, you know, Like when we bought this house,
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I went in first run. You know, we pull up,
I get out of the car first, and I just
run inside because I have a brother and I'm trying
to find I'm trying to pick a bedroom before he
picks his back. So I run up stairs a two
story house, right and I'm running upstairs trying to get
the edge on him. And you know the people who
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lived there, I think they had two or three daughters.
They took everything, they stripped the place clean. So I'm upstairs.
Soon as you walk up the stairs, right in front
of you is a is a closet door, and then
there's the bathroom, and then there's all the bedrooms. Right,
so I look at the bedrooms first. I picked my
room already. I felt drawn to one of the rooms.
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I know that now. Now, I know that there was
maybe something supernatural to it. Now and I'm not trying
to get wu woo on you at all.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I know, go right ahead, man, okay, but you know,
and I get deep into that now.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I wasn't planned talking about this today either, but I could.
I could break down why maybe I was. I felt
more inclined for that room. But anyway, the closet, I
just I picked the room and I just, for whatever reason,
I go to this closet and I open up the
closet door. Empty closet except on the top shelf, the
previous people left a Wigi board. I find the Oigi board,
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of course, because I'm the I'm the weird kid who
has the UFO side. He's a seven, right and I
take it downstairs and I showed my mom and I
could tell by look on her face that she was
not happy about it. My parents are they're they're Christian,
they're very involved with church. So there was a you know,
that was that was a no go. So she took it,
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and I think that she took it off the premises.
I think she went, I don't know where she She
didn't throw it away in the trash around the house.
She took it somewhere down the road and threw it away,
which was which was good. But so I didn't think
anything else of it until we started having and still
I started having all these weird attacks as a middle
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schooler in this room. And now, you know, twenty twenty,
you know, you look back and you think, you try
to put all the pieces together, and I realized that
whoever was messing with that Ouiji board in that house
probably had established a gateway or a port or where
they don't call it there some sort of yep. And
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so because that's the kind of activity we were dealing with,
there is like you would hear somebody. It sounded like
kids running up and down the steps at night, and
it was clear as day. You know it was. It
was so it woke my dad up. It was so.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It was the whole family too. It wasn't just yeah
yeah so.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And I mean I could just go on and on
with that house, and I won't do that today. But
I guess to answer your question, we'll see after that.
When we were when I was fifteen, we moved to
I was probably around fourteen. Anyways, we moved to Appalachia proper. Okay,
I wasn't far from there already, but we moved to
Appalachia and we moved into a community where there was
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I mean, honestly, man hand on the Bible, bigfoot activity
or something. Something was going on there. Like the kids
in youth group came up to me. There was There
was one girl in particular. I thought she was crazy,
but she came up to me not long after we'd
been living there, and she goes, have you seen them yet?
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And I was like who? And she's like the people
who live in the woods, but they're not people something
she said something along, So I was like, man, this
girl's nuts. Then I lived there up through high school.
Right when I graduated high school, I was still living
in that community. My girlfriend when I was a senior.
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She lived right down the road for me, and she
had had a bigfoot experience where one she lived down
this long, windy driveway, one walked right out in front
of her car and made eye contact with her. Scared
her to death. Like when we get back from dates,
she would have to like, you know, it'd be dark out,
we'd be right in front of her house and she
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would pull right up to where all she had to
do was just kind of run into the front door, right,
but she'd have to work up the wheel to get
out of a car at night. She was and this
was she wasn't like a bigfooter. She wasn't like watching
the documentary as few as they were at the time.
She wasn't into that whole bigfoot culture. It wasn't anything
like she just saw something weird and I and I
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always I was always asking her, like, well, what what
was it? She was like it was like a man,
like a big old hairy man, but that except it
wasn't a man, right, So it's just like, and I
could go go on and on and all the stories
like this, but I've always just had I don't know,
I've always been haveing these close encounters.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, you've always been It's always been in it. You've
always been in it. Yeah, I understand. See, Bigfoot's my jam.
That was my gateway. I'll have to a paranormal activity. Yes, Well,
because I grew up in a haunted house, right, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
It was weird to call it that, right, Yeah, but
it's the best way to really was Yeah, it's the
best way to convey the idea of what you're trying
to you know.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, And I lived there until I was ten ten
or well, I guess it would have been more like twelve.
But anyway, Yeah, man.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I could tell you stories on end about about that
community growing. They they wouldn't talk about the older people
in the community. Anybody over forty would not would not
speak about this. And I think that's why to this
day I've talked to a lot of Bigfoot researchers who
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they kind of roll in that North Carolina area. This
was in North Carolina by the way.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, and it's one of like four places.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
They don't know about this town because the people have
literally it's the town secret that there's I'll just put
it like this sasquatch or sasquatch like activity there I
don't know what this.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Is, what what town?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Well, i'll tell you after, okay, because I don't want
to put.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
The no I got you, I understand, and that's I
was gonna say.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
But absolutely, okay, I won't tell I'll tell you. I'll
tell you a couple of specifics though, just because I
don't want to put these people on blast. I mean,
I really want to be the one guy who breaks
the fifty years or one hundred years of silence that
they've somehow managed to maintain because nobody knows about this
place because they don't talk about it. But if you
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live there long enough, you start to realize something's going on.
And I've heard older people in that community say, because
I have a family friend now from the time when
we live there, I still go to her cabin. And
last time I was up there at her cabin, we
got to talking, you know, late night, and I told
her some of my stories and she said, and she said,
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it was the wood booger, the bogah, and she just
she wouldn't go any further into it. She left it
at that. But basically, where I live, where I was
experiencing all this was if you it was, it was
It was great. Actually, like every morning when I got
up and went to the bathroom, if you looked out
my bathroom door, it was it looked like a painting.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah it was. It was just like you calling it
the wood bugger. I know ish where it's at, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
because it's one of my favorite places in the world,
is that Appalachian Corridor from Virginia all the way down
through Tennessee. I just love it there, western North Carolina,
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eastern Tennessee, southern Virginia in West Virginia as well. I
love it there. Man. I am literally drawn to it
and have been since the first time I visited. So well,
you're you're like me.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
It sounds like when whenever you roll in to that area,
that region that you just laid out, I get this feeling.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
M hmm.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It's a very spiritual place. It's a very sacred place,
and if you're a certain type of person, like it
sounds like you and I are, you feel drawn to it,
like there's a magnetism to it. And I mean even
up into the Shanandoah, which you out there.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, Blue Ridge and all that manutes yep. But yeah,
so basically from like Winchester, Virginia, South.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, so it's pretty awesome, I'll tell you this. So, yeah,
so my I had a mountain across the street, uninhabited mountain, undeveloped.
It belongs to a Native American tribe. They the mountain
is sacred to them, so it's never been There's not
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even a shed up there, there's nothing. Wow, that's where
a lot of activity was happening, because I think that
nobody's lived on that mountain for a very long time.
Whatever this phenomenon is is is drawn. So that's where
we'd hear the screams and all that. So then then
there's then the mountain comes down, there's the road, and
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then up on a hill is my house. So I
got that perfect picture X view of the blue rich
mountains behind me. And then and I'll just I'll just
I'll sprinkle this into because I'm not trying to be
too cryptic. I just don't want to like put it
on blasts where this place is for these of course,
because they were really good, A lot of them were
really good to me and my family. But I'll just
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say it like this, not too far north of us,
it was Gaelics, Virginia, and I always heard strange rumors
coming out of GAELICX. They said that there's a you know,
a deep underground military base up there that's under it's
not it's it doesn't have any signs up or anything
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like that. It's totally covert, total clandestine military base up there.
And the rumor is is that they had some sort
of some sort of a chime era creature project or
they were they had some they had a big foot
up there, and they had it captured and then they
let one for you know how the stories go. But
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that's the rumors that there's the base there and that
they messed around with these creatures.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And you know what, maybe they did.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
It's possible.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
You never know, it's anything, frankly as possible at this point.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I mean, I just I had Alex pettakoffa on recently
from small town vis. He's a bigfoot guy, and he
was telling me the story because you know, he spent
a lot of time up in Alaska and and he
was up there talking to these locals and we talked
about this. We talked about how there's there's a commonality
in mentality between people who live in rural Alaska and
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maybe people who live in rural Appalachia, and that's this
celicism where they don't talk about this kind of stuff.
They don't want to tell you about bigfoot and their
bigfoot stories. But every now and again, some you'll meet
somebody who will say, well, I did have an experience,
and they'll talk about it. But there's the point is
is you're not talking to people who want to make
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up stories and want to They don't want to be
looked at as crazy, first of all, so they don't
They're not necessarily just feeding you a load. And he
was telling the story that he heard from a local
up there. This guy was on a snowmobile in a
very remote region and he stopped his snowmobile in a
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valley to roll a cigarette, and he saw us military
of some sort sort of guiding a what are we
going to call it, a troop of bigfoots that were
chained up and they were carrying something. I don't remember
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what he said they were carrying, but they went they
went up through this valley and they disappeared inside of
a mountain, like some sort of a dome inside of
a mountain. That's the story Alex was telling me on
the show. So it got me thinking again about you know,
the crazy Gaelic stories about this military base.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It doesn't surprise me. There's a lot of military up
in Alaska. There's a lot of bases. There's a couple
you know the rest. I say a couple, meaning there's
you know, a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, you got the Black Pyramid rumors up there.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, I don't know about all that. I've I've kind
of been digging a little bit, but I haven't gotten
deep because I uh I I had a Bigfoot experience
up in Alaska and that was crazy when I was
in London. I have but I don't want to get deep.
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And my audience is sick, hair and meat. I hear stuff.
So but at the end of the day, yeah, I
get it. Yeah, I gotta have Elexant drun a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
He's he's a he's a really solid guy, really solid guy.
I I've come to find because I said, you know,
my parents are very involved with church and growing up,
and I think maybe this was like preparation for me
to one day have the podcast. In a weird way,
growing up, we'd always have these people come through and
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the missionaries would all stay with us after church. The
missionaries from all around the world would always come end
up at my house around our big table, telling stories
late into the night. It's one of the best parts
of my experience growing up. And I've come to find
that all the Alaskans are the Alaskan missionaries. That's a
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different breed. It's a different breed of people all together
up there. And we had one guy. This guy was awesome.
I mean, I won't say his name, but he was
good friends with my dad. Whenever he would come to
North Carolina, he would take us up in his sesna,
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and I just have this great memory of going over
Pilot Mountain in this guy's sesna, and every time he'd
take a turn, you know, you're just you're completely on
your side, looking straight down through this little window, and
it's a kind of a heck of an experience. But
this guy would get around the table and he'd start
telling his his stories from Alaska. And one of the stories,
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I'm gonna try to get this right, and it's been
years since I've heard it, but he was out. Guy's
a hunter and he was scouting new places to hunt,
and he was trying to find a very untapped remote
region to hunt. So he's out in Assessina up there,
and he finds a place to land kind of a
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bald I think on top of like a hill if
I am, if I can remember that correctly, and grassy spot.
So he lands his plane. He's very remote. He gets
out and he as soon as he gets out of
the plane, he talks about how he stepped out onto
these weird rocks. Didn't think much of it. Goes around,
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the plane goes around to like the backside of this
hill where it starts to slope, find some sort of
an entrance down there, like a cave, and there's inside
the cave there is a big chunk of ice and
within that is preserved. I think he said it was
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a fully preserved dinosaur.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
So that story was unfolding after that for a long time,
like he would come he would come to North Carolina
and give people updates on it because a team of
people came in there to like sort of excavate the thing.
But anyway, he gets out. When he gets back up
to his plane, he starts looking around at those weird
rocks and it turns out that those were mammoth bones.
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Oh wow, And I think I've got this right. So
I'll just throw this in real quick because I can't
remember if it was a mammoth in the ice and
it was dinosaur bones or vice versa. I'm pretty sure
that was what was in case in the ice was
some sort of a dinosaur. Now, I know people these days,
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that's a that's kind of a hot topic. Not everybody
believes in in dinosaurs or whatever. But that's he found
something out there and it it went quiet because he
had a website up that was sort of documenting the
you know, the excavation process of this, and that website
has been taken down. I need to get in touch
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with it. But you know, that's one of the crazy
stories that I heard growing up about Alaska.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Of course it's insane. Yeah, it's awesome though, but it is.
It's Yeah, it doesn't shock me one bet.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Unfortunately I never asked him about bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
M they're out there, man, and they are. It's that
whole uh, that whole theory of Uh, it's not a theory.
It's really proven that animals, you know, the farther north
you get, the bigger they are. And I think it's
the same is for sasquatch.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Right right, because once you get down into the swamps
of Florida, they have that skunk ape right in the
sad Yeah. Right, it's smaller because wellb like.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Five six feet maybe seven at the most. But you've
got reports from Alaska and Canada and even some places
over in Europe where you're talking ten twelve feet. That's
just the difference between an eight foot animal and a
ten foot animal. Yeah, it's two feet in height, but
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when you talk about width and weight, it's it's exponential,
it's unbelievable. So you're talking about you know, a twelve
foot or ten twelve foot, let's just say ten, that's
probably like a twelve hundred pound animal. That just blows
your mind to me, it does. Yeah, like if you
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were to need that out, no, no, but I keep
running and going after him.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
In my mind for there to be possibly some sort
of metaphysical angle to this thing, to his creature, to
whatever it is, because you know that a creature that big,
you would think would have to be eating all the time.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah. Maybe, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Well I'm with you, maybe right, you would think.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I mean, I really look at it in a biblical
kind of lens. I'm there now where I think there's
some stuff going on with like Nephlum, Yeah, I agree,
like some Nephelin blood or something. It's like fallen angel
something going on. I don't necessarily think they're just flesh
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and bone. I mean, I think they are, but I
also think there is a there's another aspect to them.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Have you heard bo Kennedy's take on that bow from
the book podcast?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I feel like I had. I've listened to a lot
of Bose, a lot of those stuff and I and
I just can't thank of it right off the top
of my head.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
But I'll do my best to just to just tell
this and I don't want to like completely tell his story.
But from what I remember, he had a lady on
who had some interactions with a bigfoot or a sasquatch,
and they seems like they became friends or whatever you
want to call it. They were talking to each other. Uh,
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this thing told her it was an elude and he
had remember, yeah, he'd never heard that before, but I
think he like kept it in the back of his mind.
And then some time went on he talked to Gary
Wayne about it, and Gary Wayne knew was familiar with
the term and it is a child of Nephelim. Yeah,
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goes way back into some old texts that word does.
And the way Bo says, it's like that was that
was like sparks. It's kind of like fireworks for him
because it's like, you know, he knew that this lady
wouldn't have known that word right right, And I've heard
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that that she was. I don't even know that she
was pronouncing it properly or anything like that. She was
just repeating something that something told her. And it turns
out to be this kind of obscure even for Bigfoot
slash Nephelin researchers or whatever I'm called. Eliud is not
the is not day one of Bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
And well because if you look it up, if you
look it up, it doesn't really there isn't really a
good definition out there, like Google. The Google machine doesn't
give you the definition of eliud.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I think they do not.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Really they might now, but.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
They didn't whenever he brought this out. They did not,
because I remember because I looked.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Right me too, and that's what I'm saying. So maybe
if you type it in now, but I do remember,
and it wasn't that the story too, where it had
told her that it's yeah, it was an lau, but
it was looking for salvation.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, some some sort of redemption because of.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
The nephel and blood. I think you have a problem.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Maybe they took it down.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Man.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
It was up a couple of weeks ago because I
had bo on and and I remembered the story and
I thought, you know, maybe we'll get into that. So
I looked it up and I typed in, EL, Now,
how do you think they spell that?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I think it's I spell it E l u e D.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Okay, I think that's it.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Or maybe it's e l e u D. Maybe that's
what it was eu D.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
That sounds more like it.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
EL.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
So now it's it's this is crazy because now it's
not coming up for me.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, so I'm telling you I don't. I think I
looked at it and for every I think I also
looked at it for Google in every single ud hell
are they called AI bought the chat GPTs. I think
I looked in Gemini and GROC. I think I looked
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in all of them.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
And Google's weird like that, man, I'm telling you, especially
once you get into this, you know this hidden history
stuff that I love so much. Uh, I had a
weird Google experience when I first moved out to Tennessee.
I got out here in the Nashville area, and uh,
I don't know, I just had a weird thought one day.
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I was just like, I'd like to know more about
the history here in this place, and like the Native
tribes and who was here before before it was Nashville.
And I remember I went to Google and I typed
that in like the Native American tribes in the Nashville
area or something like that. I reworded a couple of times,
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and every time Google said this was probably twenty sixteen,
twenty seventeen. The Google search resorts told me that this
was an empty valley before Nashville became Nashville and was settled.
And they even had a picture that came up of
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this guy, kind of a George Washington looking guy. He
was standing like this, like he's on the you know,
like he's like he's crossing the rubicon or something, and
he's pointing like this and he's looking out over this
empty valley of wilderness. They pulled that picture up and said, now,
the valley that Nashville's in was unsettled. It was an
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empty Valley before. So now that's total bs, total bs.
And I always tell people like I, so wish I
would have taken a screenshot of that, because man, I
just it's you know, it's ingrained in my head. But
I wish I would have. I wish I would have
captured that because it's it's it's a total lie. It
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goes back to everything that I'm trying to uncover here
and why you know, but come to find out, see
now now Google's changed. Now they'll pull up very generic
sort of bulletin points on you know, the Creek Indians
or whatever. Right they don't they won't fully give you anything,
(32:36):
but but they'll at least now they'll at least knowledge
that there was Native Americans here. But the truth behind
Nashville is way stranger than I think most people imagine.
And I don't claim to know the full truth, uh,
but I think it goes back to this this conversation
we've been having today about you know, the Sasquatch and
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and all that. I think that just actually Tennessee and
this region we've been talking about today has has a
more of a Narnia like history for yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
A giant that's a great way to put it right.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
There, Giants, sasquatch, little people, moon eyed people, they were
said to be. The Cherokee talked about these nocturnal creatures.
Now and that story has gotten kind of spun a
little bit. But in my copy of Myth of the
Cherokee by Mooney in the other room there he went
straight to the Cherokee, got a direct account of the
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moon eyed people. They say they had black eyes because
they were they only came out at night. They were nocturnal.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Some some black eyed children stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, yeah, they were like these little pill black eyed,
some sort of erase of humanoids. So like that's part
of this, right. I'm trying to think about how I
launched into this part. There's another aspect to Nashville that
(34:03):
I came across. I don't have the article in front
of me, but I have it. I do have it saved.
I was looking into something to do with the Civil War,
and I was looking in some old magazines and I
found this magazine. It's not in print anymore. It's called
AG's and the Intelligencer. I think the version I was
(34:27):
reading was out of Cincinnati or something like that. Don't
quote me on that, but they had an article in
there that caught my eye because it said Nashville So
and this was this was an article that was put
out about four or five years after the Civil War ended,
late eighteen hundreds. And this article goes on to talk
(34:50):
about this cave cavern tunnel kind of a thing that
they found here that went they said it went about
a mile underneath Nashville, and they were excavating it. And
the impression that I got is that this was something
that got uncovered sometime during the Civil War because there
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was a heavy amount of troops here and I think
they found this hole in the ground and they started
utilizing it or it got blown open. I don't know
what happened, but anyway, after the Civil War they let
people come in and look at it, and I do
think it had been looted at that point, but they
were still talking about some of the weird stuff they're
finding in this tunnel. Now this is underneath Nashville, proper right,
(35:37):
and it talks about how they found a sarcophagus in there.
They found huge vases with weird Eastern style symbols on them.
They found an assortment of knives and swords that had
strange engravings on the handle. Basically, they didn't recognize this language.
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These guys were looking at it and they couldn't place it.
They're like, it's not Egyptian, it's not Greek. They didn't
know what it was, right, something that dates back to
an earlier time. And they said that the tunnel goes
for a mile underneath Nashville and it ends somewhere beneath
Fort Neglie. Fort Neglie is a star fort. And you know,
(36:25):
I don't know how much you've looked in the star forks,
but like it seems like the star forks, especially the
ones over here in North America, date back to an
earlier era.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
So I was like, for sure.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
So, and in this article they're talking about how all
this stuff they're finding is leading them to believe and
just they actually made the blanket statement in this article
that there was a mysterious race and an here and
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it was a part of an ancient civilization. Now you
won't find any of this stuff in a history book.
I'm lucky enough that I found this article because and
it's kind of it's crazy. At the end of the
article they talk about how one of the guys who
was excavating. This was involved with like a local college,
and he was talking about how he was wanting to
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do a full report on this and publish it. And
you know that never that never saw the light of day. Right, So,
but they say in the article there was somebody here,
an ancient civilization here in Nashville before before it became Nashville.
And and if it's anything like the rest of North America,
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whoever it was probably predated the Native Americans as well,
because the Native Americans tell you that they didn't build
the mounds. Somebody came in before them, the mound builders.
This enigmatic race and the deep yeah, yeah, and the
deeper you go, the more you start running into giants. Yeah,
(38:11):
it's not crazy conspiracy theorists on the internet talking it is,
But they're not the originators of this giant talk. It's
the Native Americans themselves telling you there was a race
here before them, and many of them were giants. And
I know the bones, and I know that people don't
want to talk about it, but because it's nobody wants
to go there. But some of these giants were white.
(38:35):
And we're in such a such a highly charged there's
there's too much racism in the air right now. Everybody's
worried about, you know, being on the wrong side of that,
and I get that. But nobody wants to say that
there was a race of white giants that predated the
Native Americans because they don't want to be seen as racist.
(38:56):
But that's what the Native Americans say.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I don't think they were all right, but yeah, but
there are probably not one.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Well, yeah, if you go back.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Far enough, I think a lot of them talk about
red hair giants too. So you have those all over
the world, even even in South America.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, so it goes back to a bloodline. Bennett. Yeah,
I believe that. And like you know, I thought when
I came on today, I thought I was going to
get into the occult Nazi stuff. I think we may
have talked about that, and I'm glad, Like I like
the direction this is gone. You know, we could do
that some other time.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Oh, absolutely, but do another one.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
So many stuff that I've found through studying Nazi occultism
is that they on all that airy and stuff. It
goes back to guys who believed in the net One.
There's a group of I call them the Shamans of
the Third Reich because a group of guys old occultists
from turn of the century Germany who nobody talks about
who inspired the Nazis. They all looked up to this
(39:58):
group of occultists like uh Jeorde, Vaughan Lynx, uh Lance
is another one, uh Carl Villaget Hoffenheimer. There's there's a
there's a lot of these guys. But anyways, they were
looking into the Nazis worked looking into the bloodlines. They
had a group called the Ona Nerve based Society. It
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was like in a cult archaeologist society that then that
the Nazis had put together. They were going all around
the world. They were looking for they were looking for
the bloodlines. And Tibet they went to the lost city
of Lahasa, poked round in those records. They were measuring
people's faces. They were looking for this blodlight. They went
to Iran and Iraq as well. You know, and in
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modern times we know Gilgamesh like he's one of these
god kings priest kings with the But here's what's interesting,
and I want to tie this in what you just
said about Nephelin being in North America. Then he's also
went to the cannery Islands. That's this little group of islands.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Right here, right off coast of Africa.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Right off the coast of Africa. They were looking into
a race of people called the Guanches or the Gaunches.
They were said to be light skinned slash white Middle
Eastern people who were giants as well. They had been
(41:28):
pushed out of the Middle East. They they were they
were partially Canaanite and Amorites, you know. And if you
look in the bottle and you see yeah, you know,
Caleb and Caleb and Joshua pushed them out of the
Middle East and they moved up over the top of Africa.
When the Romans came in and conquered the top of Africa,
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the Romans further pushed them to the what would this
be the the west coast of Africa. So they over history,
you see him getting pushed further and further. So they
finally they make it to the Canary Islands. There's nowhere
else to go but ocean. Yeah, I think they jumped
off from the Canary Islands, these Nephelin canaan I am Orites,
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because there's a national or not. There's a natural uh
stream ocean current that flows from the Canary Islands, straight
to here, baby, straight to the Americas. All they had
to do, and I think they were seafaring to begin with.
I think they knew how to navigate oceans. But all
they would have had to do was get in a
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boat and just let it bring the letter go. But
here's where it gets interesting. The Amorites named themselves after
their chief deity amaru Amaru. Sounds a lot like Amaruka
(42:58):
or America. Right, that's my theory on that.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's a good one too.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
But either way, they came here, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
For sure, what was it here? Let me share something
with you real quick.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
And one of the things I've been trying to do
while you're pulling that up is I'm trying to shine
a little bit more light on this.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Can we see that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
I see that the Nazis interest in the Nephelin bloodlines.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
So yeah, So what this is is a picture of
the cave systems in the US. The green mm hm.
And obviously you can see where you grew up, right,
it's just covered with green. Right. But I've been watching this, ah,
(43:58):
so if you look at like Bigfoot and all this,
what the mounds and all of it, right, all this
the giants and now a lot of the Bigfoot stuff.
I just interviewed the the guy who runs the Bigfoot
mapping project. Right if you've never heard of that, it's
(44:18):
freaking really cool. Very well too, yeah, I'm sure he does.
But the number one amount of sightings now are coming
out of Pennsylvania. MHM. And and Ohio is one of
the next sites. Right, well, all this stuff too is
(44:40):
And you bring up that there's these So I just
watched this uh documentary show whatever you want to call it.
It's called Hellier. Yeah, I've seen it, had the goblins
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
I've seen it twice. I loved it, well, I was
in it held my interest enough for oh.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, and I'm in it and I'm loving it. But
it just shows you how this whole region, even from
like Vermont, you know, even through parts of New York
all the way down, all this is connected. So you
brought up Gilga, you brought up so Nephlin desk squad
(45:23):
keeps talking about how there's something going on in these
caves in southern Indiana. But I find it funny how
it overlays with a lot of the you know, where
you have all these native stories as well.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Oh, it's all connected like that right there.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Though. We talk about caves, we talk about water, we
talk about all these like.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
All the mounds are in Ohio.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Man, all the Gateway stuff, right, all the things.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
So yeah, yeah, there's a you know, there's a connection
as what you said gateway, there's a connection between vortex
ortal sites and the mounds of you know, West Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania.
Uh that just to go back to something you said
a minute ago, you said, it seems like a lot
of this bigfoot sightings now the main hub of those
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is in Ohio, Pitts Or Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Right, Pennsylvania and Ohio.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
That's where all the mounds are. That's where the majority
of the grounds.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Are, correct, a lot of them. I don't necessarily correlate
with the with the cave systems, but I sure think
that not that we know of correct, and I sure
think that there's a there's a possibility of you know,
underground who knows, man, whether it's like highways for.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Well, that's so I think that that's part probably what
originally this cave. This was probably a cave underneath Nashville
that these people had excavated and turned into some sort
of an underground yeah temple or something. I don't know.
They had sarcophagus down there, right, So I think it's
it was probably it may have been a repurposed cave,
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because there's there's caves all underneath Nashville. There's there's famously
caves underneath Vanderbilt University. They had to block them up
so the college kids wouldn't go down there. But apparently
they're extensive. Here's the thing, we don't know how extensive
these cave. We don't know the end of the cave system.
Nobody's been able to say how long it goes.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
No exactly. I mean, we know that they're there, right,
but they don't know how they connect. They don't know
how deep they go. They don't know we I said
they the proverbial they don't know.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Well, that goes back to the deep underground military basis too,
because I think that they've used it's kind of like Batman,
you know, he kind of built his back cave in
an actual cave. He took something that was already there ilary.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
You know.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
So yeah, it gets well, it gets you.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Know, there's there's the concept of the inner Earth and
I'm leaning towards YA as opposed to an A on that.
I think there might be. So this Narnia concept, right, giants, bigfoot,
little people, moon eyed people, et cetera. Especially the moon
(48:26):
eyed people, the latter there, they probably maybe came out
of the earth. There's it's weird.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Also the interdimensional stuff too, So it's like, you know.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Well, even Yale, Yale, you know, it was a Harvard.
Harvard recently put out a paper on the UFOs, on
UAPs or whatever they want to call them, and they're
they're throwing out the concept of of crypto terrestrials. Yes,
you know, I get red flags when when I see
Harvard talking about it. But at the same time, I
see crypto terrestrials coming out of the Native American legends
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as well, So I do think there's something to it.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Timothy Alberino did a pretty good breakdown of the of
that article. I can't remember which podcast he did it on,
but it might have been his own, but he, uh,
he broke it down pretty good.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
So well, I was looking at it like this when
when I see Harvard put out a UFO centric paper,
I see the current I see where the currents are
going yeah, Yeah, I sends up re flax, and I think,
you know, I know what's to follow. Once Harvard puts
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it out, You're going to get d C is going
to start echoing what they say, Hollywood all, you know,
the the mainstream. Essentially, he's going to start echoing that
because you know, Harvard is in d C. They're part
of this East co East coast hub of power for
the Western world. Yes, whenever they put out a narrative
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usually that's that's about to be you know, broadcasted.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Yeah, and it's like, oh, it's the you know Harvard
study states. Yes, and that's like, you know, that's the
word yeah. Basically for some of these folks.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
You know, I told you, I think I mentioned I
went up in that guy's plane over this area of
North Carolina called Pilot Mountain. It's a very interesting looking mountain.
If anybody wants to google it, it's got it's like
a knob. It looks like a dome, like a natural dome,
and there's all kinds of native lore surrounding it. But
with the main lore centers around there being a tunnel
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into inner Earth there that is sort of guarded and
inhabited by the little people. And there's a really interesting well,
I should probably say this. I think that many of
our cities used to be or have been cities for
a long time. I think places like Nashville, this has
been a city for thousands of years. We just built
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on top of a preexisting ancient civilization. I think the
same goes for Asheville, North Carolina, as well, because the Cherokee,
where they had some sort of a city down there
off the French broad and right where Asheville is today.
The Cherokee probably moved into a pre existing city that
was there built by an older rights. That's my theory.
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But anyway, one of the legends is that they were
in a time of famine, in a time of war,
in a time of heavy oppression, and one of their
shamans fasted for seven days and got in touch with
the little people at Pilot Mountain, and the little people
offered this tribe of Cherokee passageway to the underworld through
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Pilot Mountain to where they would not be hungry anymore,
they wouldn't be oppressed anymore, and they wouldn't have to
worry about warring neighboring tribes anymore. And all the people
had to do was fast for seven days like the
shaman did, and they'd be granted passage. And I you know, metaphysic,
we're talking about a metaphysical thing. You're a very esoteric
concept of entering a gateway going into the inner earth.
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And it's just so that's why I.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
And with the fasted state.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's there's a lot man, Yeah,
there's a lot of gateways to a lot of things.
But that's that's our this we're talking about our true history,
our true North American history here that has been offuscated,
been completely torn and stripped from us.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yeah, agreed, I mean, look at look at Uh did
you ever read Graham Hancock's book?
Speaker 2 (52:45):
I have it over there. I've read so I flipped
through it.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yeah, I mean I didn't read. I don't really read everything.
Usually I listen to it. I key books that I reference,
but yeah, that's one of Yeah, this is.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
The one I have here is this America before?
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Yeah, America before. And that's pretty amazing. It's pretty I mean,
it's insightful, right, but I think it doesn't even tell
half the story.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
It doesn't. And I have a lot of respect for
Graham Hancock, and this isn't a knock on him, but
you know, it says it here on the binding, it
says the key to Earth's lost civilization, right, and that's
what we're talking about here.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Well, I'm also convinced we I you know, I've never
really talked about a lot of this type of stuff,
but I'm pretty convinced that there was obviously an angelic
civilization here before man. Right, Right, there's a lot of
(53:50):
evidence for that, and there's a lot of evidence even
in the Bible that talks about it doesn't really state it.
It's just there's an illusion to it, right, And that
so much of these different places were probably built by
fallen angels or angels just in general. And we say angels.
(54:12):
I hate that word too. I don't hate it, it's
just the job title, what you mean. So it's like,
do we can we come up with another.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
Like a celestial It's just a different.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Race of there as as. And I do subscribe to
a lot of Timothy Alberino's h theories right as they
are what you would call the elder race. They are,
they're like precursors to us.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
They might be Eli, they might be the tear below
Eliud but yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
Right, or or maybe they were full blown of what
you would call and see this is the other part
of this thing.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
Yeah, but but then you run into diferent translations with
Elohem two, so it's kind of hard. I try not to.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
But well, what Heiser said about it, you know, it
was it's it's anything that's sometimes it's used as broad
as to sort of depict something that's not human.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
Right, or anything from the spiritual realm. Yes, type of thing, right,
But I don't think that they were. I think that
they were physical entities on Earth at one point. That's that.
That's kind of what I think.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Well, I think that they had that ability to come
down and take physical form as well. I mean we
see that in the uh is it the Sodom and
Gomoor story, the precursor to that event. I think it
was two angels came in and.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Yes, yes, and I can't remember which book that was in.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
They took human form. They come into the city. Lot
lets them in. He doesn't want to. He doesn't want
them to stay out in the courtyard of the city
or whatever, because he knows it'd be bad news for them.
But it talks about them sitting down and eating and
drinking with.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Yes, correct, had everybody in the city wanted to rape.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
Them, so they were probably beautiful and and could eat
and drink. That means they took some sort of a
human form.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
But they also knew I think that Gary Wayne or
I get it all mixed up now who was saying it,
but that they basically that area also was part of
the problem with creating Nephelin, and that they had had
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relations with angels before there to create Nephelin, and so
they were kind of like, how do I describe it.
I guess I'm just conditioned as conditioned to be subservient
to it. Like they didn't have a choice anymore. It
was like when yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
It was that that story good. That story we're still
talking about like the lot story, right, Yeah, that story
goes deep.
Speaker 1 (57:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
I love the esoteric Christian stuff because I think the
Sunday morning version of these stories just doesn't cut it. No,
there was something happening there with those people in that
city city that, like you said, it's like they wanted
to It's almost like they wanted to have children with
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them or.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
Yeah, no, it's like I look at it as like
a breeding colony.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
Yeah, or they wanted to get some sort of a
power from them.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
That because usually when people would have that was kind
of the reward, well at least you know for the
sons of the Sons or the daughters of men and
the sons of God. Initially that created the net one,
that was the that was the payoff as they got knowledge, right,
so who knows.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
I've always been suspicious as well. That. So Cain kills
Abel and he gets banished from that Garden of Eden
area or whatever, he goes off and starts his own civilization, right,
how does he how does that happen? He had in
(58:24):
some versions it to me it reads like he went
and found another civilization and then pro created with them. Now,
my suspicion has been that maybe they weren't fully human.
That's why they're not mentioned alongside of Adam and Eve
because we are a separate creature or creation to whatever
(58:45):
Cain went. So that means that Cain maybe was the
first Genesis six type maybe scenario.
Speaker 1 (58:53):
Maybe, Yeah, for sure, that's that's definitely one.
Speaker 2 (58:56):
Maybe it's amazing, right, but he.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
Also went or I think you know, he went and
found another I don't know if he found other people necessarily,
but definitely found a pre built place like a city
that already existed that maybe humans did not build right,
and then he inhabited that, and then who knows about
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the genetic part of it. It could be that there were.
It just does because the bottom line is when when
when you start going there, you're what it is. It's
counterintuitive to the way we live in the society. It's
a cultural problem because us having or marrying like our
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sisters or our cousins or our whatever is front that
is it's a no go. But back in those days
it really wasn't it. It was kind of normal, especially
when you live six seven hundred years. Yeah, you know
what I mean, if you're a five hundred year old Noah, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Yeah, as Adam, you know what I mean, I do,
as Adam and Eve continue to have kids, it's very possible.
You know, we'll just fit this into the scenario that
you just laid out. Three hundred years after Cain goes
to this civilization. Uh, maybe his sister who joined up
with and one of you know, maybe Adam somebody exactly.
(01:00:29):
So that's that's a possibility. Now, I'm not totally sold
on he he got with some half human hybrids and
had kids. I'm not sold on that.
Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
I think there are some theories that talk about that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
But what I do know is that he eventually has
kids and he begins the line of Cain. And that's
where things get really interesting because whether or not he
he uh had intercourse with a with a with something
not human. Put that aside. This is a who grew
up his dad was Adam. He had knowledge from the
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garden literally, and you know, when you talk about Sunday
Sunday services missing things in the stories of the Bible,
one of the things that they have completely missed is
the alchemical, esoteric. Dare I say accult elements of the
knowledge that Adam was given, we would we would look
(01:01:25):
on that today as a cult knowledge. I think I
think he was given just all kinds of of dense
dinse dnse, knowledge of the cosmos and mathematics, language, just
anything you could think of, advanced technologies, how to do things,
how to maybe levitate stars. You know, you can keep
going and going going. Kan whatever he gleaned, Kane had that,
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and Caine starts the line of Caine, and you start
to see some very interesting stuff come out of the
line of Kane. You see the bad Enoch, right, you know,
there's two Enochs. I just called him bad Enoch because
good Enoch being the guy who read the book v Noog. Anyway,
but you see Lamech. Lame's part of the line of Kine.
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Lamech has I think four kids. He's got tubal Cane, Jubilcane,
another guy, and then Nama.
Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Those kids were said to have been sort of like
keepers of the mysteries. They were whatever Caine gleaned back
in the day was passed down through this line of Caine,
through Enoch, through Lomech, and these kids had this I
think at this point it had become bastardized, got a
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garden knowledge. Yeah, I think they had. I think they
had taken this stuff and turned it into sort of
like what we consider witchcraft today.
Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
And I don't know, like you know, I talked to
you before we hit record. We were talking about the
Freemasons a little bit. I don't know how deep you
want to go into that, but you seem to be
somewhat knowledgeable on some of that and what I would
ask you is, did you have you ever come across
the concept of the nine vaults?
Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
No, I mean not that specifically, lots of stuff of nine,
but not necessarily nine vaults.
Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
So if you kind of look up nine vaults. Nine
vaults is a very old Freemason legend on this group
of kids Tuplicane, Gubilcane, Nama and where they stored the
knowledge that they had before the flood. And the legend
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goes is that somehow they caught wind that God was
about to wipe the flood or you know, destroy the
earth with the flood, and so they took all their
knowledge and put it into some sort of records, whether
that was on a test stone tablet. Yeah, they sealed it.
Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
In a.
Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
They sealed it in a in a room beneath the
Great Pyramids because Enoch, right, their great grandfather or whatever
he would be at this point, built the Pyramids with
the knowledge from Cain. So they stored this knowledge in
like an air type place underneath the pyramids so it
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would still be there for their hopefully their their lasting
you know, bloodline, to have access to after the flood.
And that's that's buried in some of the deepest darkest
corners of the Freemason's own, uh legacy story for sure.
But I I see it as probably being true, not
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because the Freemasons say it. I just think the Freemason
story just happens to back up this story already.
Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
I mean, they already know that a cavity exists under
the Sphinx Bingo. They know that for sure, but I
don't think. I don't know if it's ever been opened.
They say it hasn't, but who knows, and they won't
let anyone open it, you know what I mean. So, yeah,
but all the crap that just went on with the Pyramids,
who knows.
Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
So I'm going to see how that plays out. I'm
very interested in that. I mean, there's.
Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
You know, I.
Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Know, you got another interview.
Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Coming, Yeah, he's I'm waiting for okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
So unfortunately, well that's okay, you know, I'll just wrap
up that story with this. Yeah, just so we could
put a lid on it. I did come across so,
you know, going back to our talk about the giants
and stuff like that, this information has been found by
people and you know, groups, institutions come in. We know
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who they are, and they sort of they sort of
cover up the stuff. Well, there's a group of archaeologists
that were associated with the Smithsonian who have kind of
been their legacy has kind of been swept up. They've
been kept quiet. And and there's one guy in particular
who was in the twenties was doing excavations on the
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south wall of the Great Pyramid and he found a
cavern and they found a hall of records in there
and and just like the just like the two bul
Kane Nama myth goes, they found something and in the
records it talked about how the pyramids were created and built,
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and it talks about how they were built by a
group of Atlanteans.
Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Uh, and so that's and that fits into this for
me too, because I think that whatever that civilization came
started was probably Atlantis probably where we get those myths from,
probably or he started in Atlantis. Like, but there's this
guy who found it in the twenties and the British
government was was over on one shoulder and the Egyptian
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government was on the other and they I'll put the
cabage on it. They're like, we're not releasing this because
for sure handle it or whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
So there's yeah, that's a whole nother episode, the Atlanta stuff.
So yeah, so again, thank you so much for coming on,
and I'm sorry I've got to cut this a little short,
but tell everyone where we can find you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Absolutely again, great, great talking to you today. I really
liked for that win.
Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
It was that was cool.
Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
I know we could probably talk for hours. But yes,
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(01:07:49):
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Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Awesome Again, man, thanks for coming on, and uh, we'll
do it again soon because we could probably talk. We
could probably ten shows.
Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
So that sounds good.
Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
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Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
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Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
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Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
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Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
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ships of my face, regrets that stretched out for light years.
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body free by tract in my nightmare. I don't let
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