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November 18, 2025 41 mins
In this episode of Broadcasting Seeds, Philip Milburn discusses his journey into researching obscure medical technologies, particularly focusing on Orgone Energy and its applications in pain relief. He emphasizes the importance of not replacing professional medical advice with his findings and shares personal anecdotes about the effectiveness of Orgone Accumulators. Milburn also addresses the ethical considerations of sharing medical knowledge and the impact of his work on individuals suffering from chronic pain. The conversation culminates in a call to action for listeners to explore these technologies and contribute to the ongoing research.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (01:00):
Hey everybody, and welcome to another episode of Broadcasting Seeds.
I've got Philip Milburn here today. Philip, tell us who
you are, what you do, and where we can find you.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Who I am. I'm someone that spent the last five
years researching various types of obscure and little known medical advances.
Chiefly this, which will be unpacking, doesn't look impressive, but
I'll hold that thought, and I want to put at
the top of this I'm not identifying myself as a
doctor or seeking to pull people away from what an

(01:34):
actual medical professional would tell you. Don't take my word
over theirs. But this is to give you something to
think on, not to replace actual medical advice. So you've
got to put out at the very top absolutely. Now,
forgive me what was the second part of your question?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Who I am, who you are, what you do, and
then where people can find you?

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Okay, What I do is upload a lot of footage
videos that explore little known medical technologies such as organometer,
the Royal Raymond, Rife beam, the M six hundred, the spectrochrome.
Don't know if you recognize any of those names.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, the Rife machine for sure.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yeah, among many others. I won't go for a complete list,
but we dedicate ourselves to researching and in any way
highlighting the potential of this plus whatever else I can
piece together. Now, sadly, I want to make in M
six hundred because one component will detonate my entire budget.
So that's out, but I do have a video that's
about one month old exploring its history and its influence.

(02:42):
And where you can find me is that Anomaly Research
Labs on YouTube and on the advice of Treble's Garcia,
who introduced us to each other. I will be come uping.
I will be coming up with some other social media
accounts in order to gain a better standing Rumble Instagram.
They're not, yeah, might be at the time of this
being seen.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Right, Okay, what was that again?

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Anomaly Anomally Research Labs gotcha?

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Okay? Now, basically, what got you into this whole world
of doing this?

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Well, I'd like to break that up into two pieces.
What got me into it and what made me stay?
Because what made me stay isn't far more profound. Got
What got me into it was I sat well, lay
on my bed, bored out of my mind in summer
of twenty twenty two for obvious reasons, and ironically, I
was replaying some pretty ugly stuff in my head from

(03:46):
somebody I used to know, and before we begun to
fully hate each other, this person showed me some conspiracy
theory videos on stuff they don't want you to know.
That's kind of the oldest known conspiracy theory channel. Have
you heard anything of it? So I didn't hear that.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Sorry, I had him, I had my mic muted. Sorry,
my dog was barking. Yeah, I have heard of it.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, one of the old I think the oldest conspiracy
theory figure on YouTube. Sadly they're not much active anymore,
and we're very much ahead of that time, sort of
the grandfather of the WI files today. And Yeah, while
I was flicking through these by the dozen and developing
a little bit of interest, I came across one called

(04:32):
orgone Energy, which I misread as Oregon energy at first,
so it was something to do with a geotherm plant.
And in short, this is a very simplified history. It
talked about the works of Wilhelm Reich, who very carefully
examined human psyche, government, and electromagnetism, and I began arguing
there was a sort of sort of overlapping zone between

(04:57):
them in which you could from that work a lot
of human well being in more ways than one. You'd
have to take a careful read of his stuff because
it's quite complicated. But in the later mid to late
stages of his career he began to invent the orgone accumulator,
that being this device, which is three layers, Well his

(05:19):
original was three layers. This is three and four, So
in this case three layers of cotton and four layers
of cotton and three layers of metal inside of this.
In nature, they are diamagnetic and ferromagnetic, respectively, with the

(05:41):
the effect being that when put back to back like this,
they begin concentrating an unseen energy of electromagnetism that how
do you phrase this? Are you familiar with how pain
works in the human body on a more complex like
physiological scale. Yeah, I'll just say this for those that aren't,

(06:03):
What you get is you get a signal in whatever part.
So if I claw myself, I can feel that you
had a signal that travels up to your brain, and
then another one travels back down in a very quick
amount of time, saying what type of pain to issue
at what intensity in the correct area. Now, the pain
relief signal is the same. So if you take this

(06:27):
and you get this channel of electromagnetic energy, it has
such a close resemblance to the pain relief response that
the human brain issues. Your body can't tell the difference.
It's a bit like if I sat you in front
of five colors and I said they are scarlet, ruby, crimson, red,
and brick, you wouldn't be able to give me exactly
which was which unless you're a career painter or some

(06:50):
such thing, right, So it's kind of like spoofing, and
what you end up with is it will cite you
into not feeling not all. It doesn't fix every everything,
and I'm again, this is just any dog black current,
but I'm told off multiple people it fixes a wide
range of pains and makes them feel as if they
aren't there or they almost aren't there.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
So it just lessens I mean, well, it could take
it all away, but it mainly lessens pain.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Takes it away to a larger degree. It can vary
from person to person and different types of pain, but
I was told off of going all the way back.
The first time I used this on myself, I felt something,
and I think I felt slightly more emotionally stable, for
want of a better word, than I told myself, No,

(07:38):
let's be stingy here. I'm going to class that one
as a placebo effect because I didn't want to celebrate
too early. Then I went to a then friend of
mine who had post for secondly pain syndrome. Are you
familiar with that?

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I am, well.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
I gave it to him and I said, look, I'm
not expecting much of it, but just human me. So
he does, and after a few minutes I say, well anything, Yeah,
I can't feel a thing. And I said, is this
are you? Are you coming up with some sick joke here?
And he said he wasn't. And I didn't buy it
at first, but the thing that won me over was
the fact that he's an inept actor and if he

(08:14):
wanted to fake being happy, he couldn't. So that told
me it was real, and that was quite exciting. So
then I took it throughout town to anyone I could find.
I gave it to a florist that had pain in
both of her feet. In one foot, it took the
pain away almost entirely. In the other one, it did
it took away an amount, not so much, but it

(08:34):
was worth having. I gave it to the man running
the record store just up the road for arthritic pain,
which has since become one of our most frequent targets
because it's just so ubiquitous. Behind one other, which I'm
going to get to and he said the pain faded significantly. Now,
to be fair, it didn't fix everything. There were some
people who said it did nothing. And I don't know

(08:56):
exactly what it does and doesn't heal at this point,
but it was hugely uplifting to me in a time
when I was going through quite a bit. Dare say.
I'm not going to give you that full story, but
it gave me something to believe in.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, so will that you got it from? Where did
you find like the plans, the or the how did
you come up with the what you've got right there?

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Subject to some research I found out that the Oregone
accumulator that was made in nineteen forty was a full
box you could get into, kind of like a parcel.
You could sit in it, but you couldn't stand up
in it, and people would get inside these things, which
had three layers of fur magnetic and diamagnetic material which

(09:46):
we made. They were made in their day to stop
the big sea and to also stop emotional blockages, so
that you would feel more emotionally open and stable and
maybe even sexually liberated. Now speaking on that, I can
say it did something to fix my emotional coldness to
a degree. If I put it on my heart, it

(10:08):
will make me feel a bit less traumatized and numb.
So yeah, I think it has some purpose there. I've
also had people say that just resting it on your
head is good for relaxation, not physical pain relief in
that case, just feeling better.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Okay, now, aren't there the opposite of this too? Is
it an orgon generator?

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Orgone generator? There are organs? If you're describing this now,
I need to make a disclaim.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
That that's what I'm talking about right there.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah, so this one doesn't work. It was given to
me by a then friend and it's it's just decorative.
This one is storeboard. He didn't know what to look for.
I've got a real one. If you'd like me to
fetch it.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Well, that's not really necessary. I was just wondering if
it's like what, so what did I can't remember? I
had looked in the building one a while back, you know,
just with resin and a bunch of different things. But
what did they do versus what your accumulator does.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
I'm sorry, you're cutting out quite badly there.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Okay, So okay, is it better?

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Nown No, it's still frozen. I'm seeing you with your
hand positioned like this. Okay, okay, your audio is coming
through all right, Yeah, okay, I think we're good. Could
you repeat that?

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, looks everything stabilized. It looks like So the the
what is that called? Or it's not the not the accumulator,
the other thing? What are they called?

Speaker 4 (11:41):
The organomic generation or pyramid? Does it sometimes refer to?

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah? So what do they do? What? What is that
supposed to do? Versus what the accumulator does?

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Well, the accumulator is more of a pinpoint thing, so
you can direct but somewhere that hurts for a concentrated effect,
like if you need something more acute, versus the generator
is kind of more passive and fundamentally weaker because it's
spread further. As you know, anything weakens when you give
it multiple tasks.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Okay, I was just wondering because I'd heard of those,
and I've seen them, and I've done a little bit
of studying on them.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
But do you mind if I go grab the real
ones to get people and go ahead? Well, sure, I'll
make this quick.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
No worries, don't don't uh, don't rush too bad.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
If I'd known this would come up, I would have
brought it in earlier and just now. The size isn't
that indicative. But what needs to be observed here it
this one visibly has copper inside of it, which is
an important factor. This one doesn't. This one also has
this this finish underneath that shows it's refined. You know,

(13:10):
it's clearly factory made. This one, on the other hand,
the fact that it's crude and visibly made by me
who doesn't have a factory actually means it's more effective,
if less pretty. I still think it's to look at.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Now, is there a certain type of metal that you
should use? And you have copper there, but in the
accumulator as well, is there Does it matter what type
of metal you use or are some more effective.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
We've got a how to guide on creating these on
my channel which we'll talk you through this. But okay,
what you're aim for is you get triple zero non
aluminium steel wool combined with pure cotton or pure wool,
not anything partly polyester. It'd have to be a pure composite.
Then it's just stitched together and we've got a Tesco's

(14:00):
potato tin on the inside of that thing. Now, in America,
I imagine you don't have those, but if you can
find something that's not a composite of aluminium or aluminum
if you prefer, then that would do the job.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Just fine, Okay, awesome, So go ahead, keep going. I
just have those slight questions.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
So one thing I covered while researching this as I
gave it to a female friend of mine well too actually,
and said, are you willing to test stress test this?
Tell me if it eases period cramps for me. So
they both said yes and took off with it. The
first one came back to me said it took an
eight out of ten severity to about one out of ten,
and I was overjoyed at that. I couldn't It's rare

(14:48):
that I get that happy. Think it was one of
the highlights of the year. And I don't just mean
because that year was abysmal for reasons. Besides, I was
very happy about it. So my other friend came back
to me, who had the copper eye UD inside of her.
You know what those are? Yes for our audience, that doesn't.
It's a sort of poor modal IUD made to either

(15:10):
prevent pregnancy or pain or some of the symptoms of
the period cycle. But for our purposes. What we end
up with is it copper retains energy, including an especially electromagnetic,
so it's got a sort of overdosed and stayed too much.

(15:30):
It wasn't free flowing, and what we wound up with
was the pain backfired in her case and got worse.
Now I border a drink to say sorry for that.
We are still friends, and I kicked myself, but we've
not had that problem again, so we do learn from
our mistakes. And I've wanted for a long time for
people to research this so that all women, well almost

(15:52):
all women, I hesitate to say all, but almost all
women and a lot of men who get injured and
hurt for reasons besides can benefit from it. In fact,
I'd be shocked if you didn't either, if you either
were not or didn't know of someone that fell into
one of these categories somewhere.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
So how do you spell it? Just so the audience
can know.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
It's not an official word in the dictionary for the record,
but it's a O R G O N E M
E T E R.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
I do believe, all right, We're gone, all right? So
what is the thought behind why this works?

Speaker 4 (16:50):
That is a very good question. It might it may
take a while to put that to you in Reich's thinkings,
bear with it. This is extremely complex. I can do it.
Originally it started with a critique of psychoanalysis, if you
can believe it, where Sigmund Freud left a sort of

(17:12):
u vaguely defined answer as to what the origin of
the sex drive was? Is it physical or is it mental?
And no matter how carefully you read psychoanalysis, you tend
to walk away with the response of something like that.
There's not much you can take from it. So Raich
looked at more closely, and he said, Okay, the origins

(17:35):
are part physical, part mental, and they go here, here
and hear, and he put this two Sigmund and Anna Freud,
who criticized him very harshly, threw him out of a
reception and then outed him to the Gestapo. He fled
to Norway and barely escaped the gas chambers, and ironically

(17:56):
he had a falling out in Norway, fled to the
US and barely as the gas chambers twice. But with
regards to how this amounted to the electromagnetic thing, honestly,
I myself have wandered for years. I understand his point
about the floor of psychoanalysis and how he corrected it.
But how he then took that and decided that electromagnetic

(18:18):
devices could be interlaid with it. That's really difficult to explain.
But here we are. I have experimented with it in
my own time. So how does what was your question?
Originally you're asking how he knew about this?

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yeah, just how what's the like? How does he know?
How did like? What's the mechanism behind it?

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Theoretically, at least theoretically, the mechanism is what I described earlier.
You can see it under a Karelian camera, for example,
and you can see defectoring cryogenic experiments that I've done myself.
We froze a bottle of water that was excuse me
a minute, were it was a bottle of water that
was contained inside of the two and when we took

(19:05):
it back out, what we ended up with was a
bottle that had a very clear, pretty form of ice
to it and was much smoother. Then we did the
same thing, same freezer, same amount in the same bottle,
well the same type of bottle, and it came out
kind of more jagged and crude. There was a visible difference. Yeah,

(19:30):
you could see it with your eyes. And as for
the experiments done by what pardoned me what I mentioned before,
Ah yeah, Currillian photography. Under Currilyan photography, you would see
a haze come out, more likely of this one, but
you'd see a haze come out. And I've got a

(19:50):
friend in the US who's volunteered to help me once
they've got some duties done, so they're looking to get
involved by December. And what you'd get is this sort
of purple red or even ultra violet glow coming out
that was explored by George Ritchell, who was using similar
devices in the two thousands in Africa. The one other

(20:11):
thing I'll say is as for the method of operation,
that was explored most in depth and scientifically by Hikolastic
in the nineteen eighties. And if you were to research
his study on orgone therapy, he would be the best
person to go to in terms of having worked in
a lab environment.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, okay, because I'm looking like reich Man. They came
after him hard about this, like the FDA. Actually that's
what I'm reading.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Well, the FDA are the lapdogs of the AMA. So
of course, of course, anything anything done by the FDA
is the AMA's fault, but not everything done by the
AMA is the FDA's fault. Not I would really put
it past them. They're about as bad as each other
to my eyes.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
So do you make these now to sell or not?

Speaker 4 (21:10):
I don't sell because I don't find that ethical. And
we're going to go into why in a moment's time.
It's pretty intense. Actually, I do make them, and I
give them away for nothing. Now full disclosure, I do
accept people's support on Patreon to enable me to do this.
But separate to that statement, never have I, and never
will I deny someone access to the information about one

(21:32):
of these things on the basis of financial inability, right,
That's not what I stand for. And I've given it
to people that couldn't pay. I've given it to people
that couldn't return anything other than a thank you, and
I would do it again. And as for the notion
of selling, this part is parts pretty nasty, okay, So

(21:55):
I apologize in advance. This is not going to be
easy for me. Back in twenty twenty two, doing our
very early stages, we were getting some traction piece by
piece off of the internet, you know, talking. We didn't
have any videos out back then, but I was talking
to people and swapping ideas smaller scale than what we're
doing right now, but a little bit informally at least,

(22:19):
and I was contacted by someone who explained to me
that they were suicidal with back paying due to nerve
damage in the just under the neck. And honestly, I
was quite concerned at that point, so I began trying
to offer them some reassurance, you know, on the emotional
and analytical level. I've tried to just calm them down,

(22:41):
and they were spiraling to a large degree. It was
a I'm not maligning that person, Okay, they had stuff
to go through. I'm not blaming them for the fact
that they were in the state that they were. That's
many other people's fault, not theirs. But you know, it
was proving difficult to talk them down. And then I

(23:04):
began talking about this, so they said to me, I'd
like to try one. What do I do? So I
said to them, look, here's some instruccles. I gave them
a different person's video, merco Cooley, who he discovered this
before I did him and his friends. But he's not
as he's I don't I don't wish to malign the man.
He's not as dedicated as I am, just judging by

(23:25):
the channel, he's a good, good content creator. And I
said to her, look, follow these instructions excluding this. Now
we don't have to do that anymore because we have
my video to go off of, and she did so
over the next few days. I think for about one week,
I would I would talk to her and try and

(23:47):
access her unofficial counselor as well as her guidebook for
this thing. And I don't wish to get into graphic
detail here, but I think you could sense it in
some of the things that she stated. There was this
really horrid undercurrent of where else am I going to
run to if this person isn't there? And what are they?

(24:08):
You know, there was something of a They might have
expected some sort of exploitation. Now there wasn't any, but
I'm I think both of us were painfully aware that
there could have been. We didn't talk about it because
we didn't want to, but you know, that undercurrent was there,
and I dread to think what would have happened if
this had been on somebody who was much more cynical

(24:29):
than I am. And then that a while later she
told me that the pain had gone almost entirely from
about seven out of ten to one, and she'd taken
up riding a bike for enjoyment. She was socializing a
lot more with other people, and it did something for
the social isolation that she was experiencing. It was for
reasons besides the pain, the obvious stuff. It was a

(24:51):
really strenuous time in her life. And I'm not trying
to I'm trying to divulge too much there. But fortunately
they've recovered and gotten over it, and I now have
a girlfriend, So I'm really happy that they've been able
to do a huge one eighty on that. And I
dread to think because they told me they were thinking
about it on the day they heard about it. They

(25:12):
were seriously considering. Yeah, so that's that was the scariest
experience of my life. And I've been through plenty of things,
all right, So that's not coming from somebody who's inexperienced. Okay,
that was that your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Yeah, I'm I have folks that I'm a veteran and
with that, I was a peer support specialist for years,
so I absolutely understand. I understand being in that situation.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
So yeah, may ask what country. Did you serve in
the US both?

Speaker 3 (25:54):
I was in the Marine Corps and the Army. I
did time in both.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
So did you go abroad in a war?

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, a couple of times.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
Right, that's impressive. Well, yeah, that's thanks for that, because
it's we've helped each other. That same person helped get
me my spirits up following some really nasty ostracizing and
backstabbing the next year. And obviously I was in such
a state back then. They may have just gone and
returned the favor entirely because I was feeling so low myself.

(26:27):
I had this one tapeling in my head, she needs you,
You're not going anywhere. I think that was probably the
only thing stood between me and you get the idea.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah, agreed, Especially at that time, We're coming out of
the COVID and stuff was nasty, you know, things people were. Yeah,
it just wasn't a good time for anybody, I don't think,
but I sympathize.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
So yeah, well that was the most memorable experience. I'm
so glad it had a happy ending.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Absolutely, have you.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Any more questions?

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, So, I I really am. And so the reason
I'm I'm interested, You've got my interest piqued because of
it's the possibility of this helping people that I know, right,
So it's one of those things that with like your video,

(27:30):
we could make it on our own. We wouldn't need
to go out and buy it or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah. Absolutely, And you know I've always said of it,
if you have the if you're handy enough and you're
rich enough to make a loaf of bread, it's within
your reach. It's as simple as that.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Perfect. Wow, that's amazing. So I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, well, i'd be I'd be excited to hear if
it's helped anyone in your life. I'm not going to
ask for every detail. I'd just like to know it
had done some good. I'm not looking to invade anyone's privacy.
If a little feedback would come along to say it's
led to improvement in quality of life, that would be
greatly appreciated.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Absolutely. Yeah, Well, if we're able to do anything with this,
then we will. I will let you know. Absolutely, you'll
be the first to know.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Actually, thank you.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
So yeah, for sure, I think Treble's over it.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
The he's now called the Trebles Show, just changed from Trouble.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, he said he's going to see I actually was
on his podcast last night, but we talked probably daily.
So great.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Well, he's told me that he's going to be this
weekend getting the components together. I won't say for what,
because I don't want to be an oversharer, but it's
just nice to know that those gears are turning for what.
But yeah, I've got one person in Canada interested as well.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Okay, yeah, definitely, this is something I think that if
it you know, it's one of those things though, where
sometimes things just work for people and sometimes they don't
work for others, and who knows, because who everybody's different, right,
I mean, mechanically biologically we're basically the same, but sometimes

(29:13):
people's energies just don't take to things like this the same.
I'm not sure why that is, as I am a
reiki practitioner as well, or I could say that I
used to be, so this type of stuff really interests me.
That makes sense.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's I think it does have
some overlaps with reiki, and in reference to what it
does and doesn't help, I've yet to put this in
paper to get a very clear picture, but off the
top of my head, it does seem less effective against
muscular and tendon damage, whereas nerve damage it's quite good
with and bone damage. It's also quite good aiding.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
With Yeah, so more I wonder why it wouldn't be
as effective as soft tissue. I can't think of why
that would be.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
But I'm going to have that in writing at some point.
There's going to come a day when I can put
that in clear terms. I mean, I have wanted to
dedicate myself to this more. But in the span of
five years, I've had so much thrown at me. I
don't wish to sound like some whiny cry baby, but yeah,
I've I've had to turn my gaze elsewhere more than once.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Understand. So is this all that you dig into or
do you dig into some other stuff too, like maybe
some of the other ah? And what what made you?
I mean, I know you talked about it earlier, but
what really sparked this? Was it to who? Was it

(30:56):
to help? Was it to help somebody other than yourself
or was it just you? Well, it was just peach
your interest.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Well, essentially, it told me it might be a great
medical event. So I didn't need much more than that.
I just wanted to see if I could do anything
with it. And originally it was just okay, let's see
who we can help with this. But you see this
picture arguing with camera here here painted my father, this
one of venice. Well, he died sadly in twenty seventeen

(31:27):
from stomach cancer. And do I think that he'd still
be here if I'd known about this? Maybe I'm not
so sure. But if i'd known all of the things
that I know now about various other things, some of
which I'm not going to mention because you maybe hit
with censorship. Yes, I think he'll almost certainly be here
if i'd known that full rundown. And you know, I

(31:51):
think some of it is for him, A lot of
it is for that girl I mentioned earlier who was
who now you know is doing bike riding. It's just
too it's to anyone, but the two people closest will
be father and that girl who is like a sister
to me.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Okay, amazing, man, I'm really intrigued here.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Yeah, that's what I meant earlier. I got into it
to see just is it useful on any level? I
stayed because of them.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Two, gotcha? Yeah, that's yes, that makes sense. So what
else anything else to cover about it that you'd like
to say.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Quite possibly, forgive me, it's so sprawling. I find it
hard to track the last five nearly five and a
half years with this. But some of the don'ts of
using it right. If you have a copper IUD and
you want to use it for period pain or something
just similar to that area, don't because no one wants
to be around copper. If you've been exposed to nuclear radiation,

(32:55):
as in you're a survivor of Chernobyl or Fukushima, I
wouldn't recommend it, as this thing does not react well
with nuclear energy. If you've had the thing receive an
X ray or you've received it yourself in the last
few days, don't use it. Get that completely out of
his system, and then go. Don't send it through the
mail because it will receive an X ray and it

(33:17):
will become tainted. I found that one out the hard way. Also.
I'm very angry with myself how that was handled. Fortunately
that person made a recovery. So the hard ways for
it to go wrong. I'm not claiming it will fix
everything under the sun. I'm not claiming to be a doctor,

(33:37):
all right. I'll say that once more, don't take any
of this over actual medical advice.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Sorry, I'm rating. Yeah, we'll also put that in there. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Besides besides that, I'm not so sure. Just I try
and speak pure from the heart here off the back
of what I said earlier. It would mean more to
me than I could ever have words for if people
would start using this, talking about it, get the ball
rolling things to that effect as I would like to.
I'd like to believe that when we hit the year

(34:18):
twenty fifty, the term period cramps will be kind of
a relic or unheard of. I like the VHS tape
because anybody could just slap one of these on and say, right,
that's it. No effect, well, no feeling. Sorry, there's no
effect of the pain, not the thing, or for other things,
you know, injuries. I recall a man who broke his foot.

(34:40):
I used it on him, and he was really excited
and posed for a picture with me, and I had
to say to him, I'm happy for you. Treat that
thing like it's still broken. Don't sprint or jump or
dance anything to that effect. The pain is gone, you
still need to baby that thing. And I recall giving
it to two girls with juvenile arthritis. Well, they both

(35:03):
said they felt better. I'm of them posed for a
picture with me. I could have read this wrong, but
it felt a little bit flirtatious. So that's one thing
to keep in mind for the lads.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Gotcha, Okay, Oh man, I had a question.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
I just went thank your telling.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
I have continued use. I mean, are we talking about now.
Of course we're not talking. We're not doctors. You're not
a medical professional, but like continued use. Do you find
that with people that is it like, let's say they
have arthritis right somewhere, and is it a pain management

(35:44):
tool at that point or is it like it's not
like a cure, but it would.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Be more for pain management, right, Yeah, it's it's like
drinking some water. It doesn't fix everything. You're gonna have
to refresh. But you can just stick this thing on
an arthurisic finger or something. And I've been using these
things for five years. No side of well, no negative effects.
Oh wait, sorry, there's a little exception to that rule.

(36:10):
If you pointed at your stomach, there is a chance,
at least in my I'm gonna stop doing that now.
There's a case, and in my case, this is true.
It can make you kind of drunk and unfiltered and
have the effect of having had a few, you know,
So do not use one of these, especially on your
stomach or your head if you're driving operating machinery, or

(36:33):
you're talking to somebody other than the lads when you
go down the pub.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Yeah, understand. Okay, So this is this show is called
Broadcasting Seeds, and it's about planting seeds and people in
their minds at least. So what I'd like this is
the last question that I've got for you, is what

(36:58):
kind of seed would you like to plant in the
audience's mind.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
The seed I'd like to plant is take a careful
look at our studies, among others of this thing at
us Haikolastic. And if you are a skeptic and you've
got the if you're on the more skeptical side of things,
and you've got this stance of I'm not going to
take this from someone who's not a medical professional as
a twenty six year old and you know it's just

(37:25):
one research anecdotally. Now, those are all valid criticisms, but
I say go beyond being an armchair critic, and provided
you meet the criteria you're not on the don't list
for any of the reasons given. Create one, give it
to someone who needs it, and come and kick my tires.
I'm absolutely four people stress testing this. I'm not all

(37:47):
flash and no bang or all mouth, and I fully
admit it's not got one hundred percent success rate, but
I would like for people to keep an open mind
and make the effort with this thing. The cost to
assemble by either way hangs around about four English pounds,
got to not bad. And again, I don't make any

(38:09):
money off this, not necessarily. I'm not in this for
the money, all right. Anyone that would profit or exploit
off the misery of other people, to my eyes, deserves
I probably shouldn't elaborate on that. It might I'm not
going to elaborate on it, but you know, I'm not
in this for money, and not even fame. I don't

(38:30):
mind it, but primarily I just want to see people
get better and do some good here. So yeah, forgive me,
but that's that's the seed I would like to plant.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Is absolutely great. One again, tell people where they can find.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
You, normally research labs. Now, I hope to god this
thing doesn't end up all blurry but is that visible
to you? Yeah, it's blurry, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Well, I might be a to see it. I can't
see it right now, but I might be able to
own a regular.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Wonders of Technology. No, sorry, I can't. I don't think
that's worth it, So we'll just say you can find
me Anomaly Research Labs on YouTube. You could perhaps take
a picture of something and stick it onto this podcast
image if you like. But thank you so much for
having me. I mean, it's painfully rare that I can

(39:30):
get onto the stage with anyone. You are one of
three that have actually sat down with me. Sorry, four
one of them is in the works. But thank you
so much.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Amazing, I appreciate you coming on.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
I'm grateful to be here.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
Broadcasting seeds.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Broadcast they seeds planting truth in the minds of the people.

Speaker 5 (40:11):
Yo, check the signals. It's the war for your mental truth. Confidential.
But I'm breaking that stencil, stepping the booth like a
sagean fatigue dropping red pills. Seed. Yeah, I'm broadcasting seeds, history, mystery,
cryptids in the midst spiritual warfares more than just a
twist government lies. Yeah, I'm pulling the threat you're supposed

(40:33):
to cover up, bring the truth from the dead.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Big Foot footprints in the.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
Halls of the state, sun at the gate while the
heavens rotate, prophets and portals, signs.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
In the sky.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
You're asking why I'm showing you, Why fluff no script?
This the real narration, bennetts Heed, dropping heat for the
whole generation. True thunb cut, no headed, no plea. This
is broadcasting seeds. Come break bread with me, from the
shadows to the light. Here the fail with his tumb
broadcasting seas where the lions a bum moved on the breath,

(41:06):
with the mowas flewn in. Wake up, y'oll be taking
it back
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