December 2, 2025 • 60 mins
In this engaging conversation, Michael Collins from Wandering Wolf Productions shares his journey from military service to exploring ancient sites around the world. He discusses his passion for uncovering the mysteries of history, the importance of community in this exploration, and his favorite locations, including Baalbek and the Grand Canyon. Michael emphasizes the need for collaboration and support within the community of history enthusiasts and encourages listeners to explore their local history. He also shares his aspirations for future travels and the joy he finds in pursuing his passions.
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Speaker 4 (00:56):
Static, Welcome to another broadcast of Broadcasting Seeds tonight. We're
here with Michael Collins from Wandering Wolf Productions. This is
gonna be a good one, folks. Michael, tell us who
you are, what you do and where we can find you.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me on. That's
a good question. I I don't know what I'm doing
half the time, so thank you. A good question. I
have a YouTube channel. I travel around the world filming
ancient sites and documenting sites, sharing that with people, host tours,
(01:41):
and we're doing conferences now, so stay pretty busy. But yeah,
all things ancient. Really it's amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
What's the best place to find you?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I think most people are my mayby familiar can go
to my YouTube channel, Wandering Wolf, and then uh, my
website's Wandering Wolf Productions dot com and then you can
find me on all socials at w Wolf Prod p
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Speaker 4 (02:14):
All right, yeah, awesome, simple, very simple, very simple some people. Man,
it's all like you have congruency. A lot of people have.
They're just all over the places like a man.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I wouldn't be able to find my own stony get
as easy.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
As as as possible, right, Oh man. So first question
I like to ask everyone is what was like your
your entry into this this world that we're in. And
I and I say high strangeness because it kind of
blankets the entire thing. You know, you're not really a
(02:52):
per se, cryptid guy, but you do ancient sites and
that goes down all kinds of rabbit holes, you know.
So what's what's the thing that got you into this
this world that we're in here?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, man, you know some of it touches on things.
We're talking just a minute ago. We're both veterans, and
thank you for your service. By the way, didn't we
just have a you two Veterans Day or something? No,
Veterans Day is next week next week, okay.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Yeah. The only reason I know it's Veterans Day is
because I'm a marine. Yeah, and it's the day after
the Marine Corps birthday, so we're kind of crazy about
the night two and fifty years this year. So it's
the same with the Army, though it was the Army's birthday. Yeah,
maybe that's what you're thinking of. It was like a
week ago or two weeks ago. I was a marine
(03:44):
in the Army, so I just never learned the army stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, you kept you kept the marine mentality the whole time.
I bet they loved you.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Now they hated me, So that's that was that was
kind of made me want to do it more.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, yeah, you know, so I served during an interesting time.
I was serving I was in in in the military
in the Army during when nine to eleven happened, So
I was already enlisted and going through some training. When
nine eleven happened, I was out in the field. So things,
(04:25):
as far as military life goes, everything changed dramatically. You know,
we had open bases. You could just anybody could drive
on base and off base, and motor pools were left
wide open. And by the time I got out back
from the field and the training I was doing, everything
(04:46):
was locked down. It was just totally different. And you
know that. So the following couple of years I had
been training for Kosovo, everything shifted to Iraq. My unit
was training for Kosovo and and everything shifted over to Iraq. Well,
(05:09):
I came down on orders during the training that I
was doing when nine to eleven happened for Korea, so
I didn't get to go with my unit, and I
ended up over in Korea. And you know, it was
an interesting time. There were some things that happened, but
you know, if you're serving in the military, you've got
to get a peek behind the curtain of how things
(05:30):
really happened. And there were a lot of things that
didn't make sense about nine to eleven to me. And
I don't know where people stand, but for me, you know,
there's no way I can watch those towers fall and
not see debt charges. You know, it was just clear.
It's just clear as day that they're blowing out a
level by level, and if you've worked with explosives, I mean,
it's just it's obvious. And that started churning around in
(05:53):
my head. And I was sitting there for several years.
And then when I was getting out, you know, there
were some other things that were really you know, they
were trying to make I was two weeks from getting out,
and they were trying to make me do the anthrax
vaccine and I said no, they didn't like that, but
I was getting out in two weeks.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
And.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
You know some of those things. As the years progressed,
I got more and more interested in things like ancient
history and stuff. Right, So, you know, at the time,
there wasn't this big community of people. I don't even
know if YouTube existed way back then, but then you
know when YouTube did kind of start and come around
and it became a thing, there wasn't this big community
(06:38):
of and you know, plethora of content on ancient history.
So what was everybody watching that was into this stuff. Well,
they were watching ancient Aliens. And I was seeing places
that I'd never heard of before because of that show.
So whether you you know, believe in aliens and that
aliens built everything or not, that was a lot of
people's first introduction to some of these sites around the world.
(07:02):
It was for me. And as people started creating more
and more content on that on YouTube, I started doing
deep dives and going into rabbit holes, all sorts of topics,
not just ancient history stuff but everything. And I was
working in a career that I hated. I was working
in sales. I ended up finally finding my way into,
(07:23):
you know, somewhat of a career doing sales work after
the military. And that went on for twelve years, ten
twelve years something like that, and I was just miserable
and it led to a whole host of issues in
my life. And what I realized was, you know, none
(07:47):
of I was making great money, and it didn't matter,
it didn't matter how much money I was making. I
wasn't happy. And that was just I realized, you know,
that was just not enough for me. I needed something more.
I need up dating a girl and she traveled a lot,
and I ended up down in Peru and I went to,
you know, my first megalithic site, which was Saxy Wuman.
(08:08):
As soon as I went to that site, put my
hands on those stones, I just knew that that was
what I wanted to do. I had quit my job
already and I was about a year into that. I
decided I was going to travel for a year, went
to that site. I knew that's what I wanted to do,
and I didn't know what I was doing. I had
no experience filming or anything like that, and I just thought,
(08:30):
maybe I can just pump some videos out. I had
an army buddy and we'd connect after we both got
gotten out of the military. Every year do hikes and
stuff like that. Heep carry a GoPro around my buddy
Kirby and make these these hiking videos. And I thought, well,
maybe I can do that with this started doing that
and it just kind of grew into this thing that
(08:51):
I decided I wasn't going to quit on and and
that you know, that's what I did. Is a lot
of times I weren't I wasn't making any money, YouTube,
wasn't paying the bills, no, and you know it. You know,
I think it took me years to get over a
thousand subscribers, and then at some point, you know, my
(09:17):
content I think started resonating with people to the point
where the channel started growing and and some of that
was calculated. I knew there were places that I wanted
to go and see that I thought would be really
great that nobody else did at the time. It was China,
and I felt like if I got over to China
and filmed long U Caves and yang Shan Quory, I
would have something that people would have to pay attention to,
(09:39):
because at the time there were only pictures and they
were old. And so I I got over there and
filmed that site and then released it and it and
it did. People were coming to my channel to watch
those videos. Now you can find all sorts of videos
on those on those places, but at the time I
(09:59):
believe I was the only person that had gone there
and filmed it right, and so that really helped the
channel grow. And then I just really started enjoying getting
to some of these more far out locations and places
that were less known about or had not been documented. Well,
that's getting harder to do these days, because everybody's doing
it now, right. But I really enjoy that getting out
(10:23):
to really far out places that are pretty hard, and
I like the travel aspect of it. Everything that's involved
in doing that and pulling it off, I really enjoy.
There's a short version for you of how we got
from there to hear I suppose.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
So, what's your favorite place that you've ever been?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh, ball back, probably it's just amazing to you. Yeah,
it's I've said this many times before. It's kind of
like the Rosetta stone for ancient stone working features at
megalithic sites. It literally has everything at that location, you
(11:10):
can find everything. And Lebanon and of itself is just amazing.
There's there's things there that aren't even recognized yet. And
you know, we're stumbled upon a quarry that hadn't been
identified at a known religious site. There's a site there
(11:30):
for one of Jesus' first miracles where he turned supposedly
turned water into wine. Yeah, and there's a quart that's
it's on a quarry. There's a quarry there and everybody
just walks by it and it's like railings and stuff
built up and you just walk past all of that,
all of the quarry to get down to this cave
where the miracle happened. But you're and it's just it
(11:51):
was blowing my mind. It's just like does anybody know
about this? Like Lebanon's amazing and the other another trip
that places really stood out to me just for the
experience with Bolivia and going to see Puma Punku and Tiwanaku.
But Peru is incredible as well. I could live in
(12:12):
Peru and Ireland is what was one of my favorite trips.
But that that was that really both you know, both
sides of my family are Irish descent, and yeah, that
was really kind of uh special to me to be
able to do that. But yeah, it's hard to pick
just one. China That China.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Amazing can amazing. I can imagine. I during nine to eleven,
I was in Egypt when it happened. We were a
part of a multinational force there watching these the Israelis
on one side and the Egyptians on the other, making
sure that they're not fighting. Yeah, well we got to
(12:51):
take some are in our time and go to the
to Giza and it was pretty crazy. We got to
go there, We got to go to Alexandria and then
to Mount Sign Well it's what they call Mount Sinai
and whatnot, but who knows who knows that story that
(13:15):
if that's the actual mountain. Either way, we got to
go through Saint Catherine's monastery that's at the base of that,
and the monk that gave us a tours, this guy
he had lived there thirty five years, was from Ohio
just and showed us all the codexes and just this
library of this insane and I think we got to
(13:39):
see it because we got you know, it was it
was a special tour for us for military guys. But
then I got to walk Mount sina I walk up.
I mean, you can take camels, but I decided to
walk it and it took like six hours and it
was awesome. So that I love those things, man, I
love I love history in general. So I guess what
(14:04):
about So you've got North America, but what about the
United States in particular. I think we had talked about
this when we were on Called Rejects together, and I
think we brought it up.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I brought up what was onere of the.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Places in America that just kind of blow people's that
blow your mind a little bit, you know. I know
we talked about the Sage Wall, but there's got to
be other places too.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, Sage Wall is amazing and I've I've really been
trying to plug them a lot lately as far as
they've done a lot of research on that site, and
they have made that all public It's released on their website.
It's Sage Mountaincenter dot org. And so they have a
whole notes, whole page uh there with all of the
(14:59):
release all their data from the research they've been doing
up there, so light are ground penetrating, radar lab analysis
of the stones and stuff. They've released all that publicly now,
which is amazing. And Yeah, Montana's great and that's a
great site to visit. There's other places here in America.
(15:21):
And I think that people aren't fully aware of how
much ancient stuff is here in America.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
There's a.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Massive mound culture that existed here in America. And there's
literally I think millions of mountains across the usk and stuff.
And Kahoki is incredible. You can walk right up to
the top of that, which is amazing. There are Dolmens
(15:53):
up in New York. Yeah, Yeah, and Chance, I think
it's balanced Rock is really impressed some one up there
in New York. I actually have a video on that,
just just to walk through video showing walking around it
and showing it but on my channel, which was really good.
So there's a lot of places, and obviously if you
get into the American Southwest, you know, you really get
(16:14):
into places like Choco Canyon in different places like that
that are pretty incredible. And then petroglyphs and things, yeah,
that are really worth looking at and exploring.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
What's the American Stonehenge up and yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, I got a video out on that one too
on the channel. It's it's it's interesting. I would like
to make a I did a video on that where
I just filmed me walking the site, but I'd like
to take that footage and do a more introspective video
where you're getting some more details and information because some
(16:52):
of that that video just it didn't it's just showing
you the site. There's no dialogue or anything. But yeah,
it's a really cool site. And the owner, you know,
I'm sorry but I can't remember his name off the
top of my head. I got to talk with him
for a bit and it's really interesting. He's running that
whole site and has been for years, and it's it's
(17:12):
it's really cool. It's set up and done well for
access to visitors.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I haven't been up there, and I don't want to go.
So it's not that far.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
From me, and it's not far from a balanced rock, right,
relatively speaking, you got to keep in mind on me
from Texas.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
So right, so the East Coast is a little.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Everything floats comparatively, at least on the East comparatively.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
When I get up there, You're like, oh, it's it's
an eight hour drive. That's nothing here. You can't get
almost anywhere in eight hours in the Northeast. So I
mean you're you're going from New York to Maine, So yeah, exactly, absolutely, Yeah,
(17:55):
uh so, what what do you think? And you brought
up ancient Amian's earlier, so it's kind of peaked. My
I just went and saw them. They're like road show
that they do. Yeah, last year it was pretty it
was interesting. It's pretty funny. I've watched all the I've
watched so many of the episodes, But what do you
(18:17):
think is going on in the Grand Canyon? Man?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I tell you what, Man, that's that's one of those
places that I've wanted to just sneak off into and
just explore.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
It.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I think it totally makes sense. There's all sorts of
features if you dig into about the Grand Canyon that
don't make a lot of sense. There's you know, I mean,
if you go look at the names of some of
the peaks there in the Grand Canyon, it's Temple of
the Snakes, Temple up. They're all Egyptian names for all
of these supposed natural features there in the Grand Canyon, right,
(18:53):
They're all named after Egyptian you know, temples and things.
And then you if you start looking at them really closely,
you have a lot of really like ninety degree angles
and stuff, and some of those cliff sides where you know,
if it was carved out by water, that shouldn't be
(19:14):
the case, right, and then you wouldn't think so. Yeah,
And if you've seen enough collapsed ruins and ancient ruins
as I have, they really do have a feel of
uh ruins, you know. Just it's easy to let your
(19:36):
mind look at some of those those spots and and
see what they might have been actually if we were
if you're if you're choosing to look through them of
the lens of potentially being ancient ruins that are just
in total disrepair and collapse. And then obviously, you know,
you have the stories of what was the what the
(19:56):
gentleman's name was that.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I can never remember it.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, that explored down there and reported on finding Egyptian artifacts,
went back to the Smithsonian with those reports, and then
they took him off of the assignment, and then all
of that area became off limits eventually, right so, and
then those areas are still off limits. And I've explored
the Grand Canyon. I've done Rim to Rim and stayed
(20:23):
and slept down inside the Grand Canyon, and it, if
you know, it's wild. It feels like you're in a
lost world type of situation, you know, And uh yeah,
I'd really love to go off trail out there into
those areas.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
And it's just like why did they I mean, they
say it's a safety issue, but it's like, come on, man, Like.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well I think And I don't know if we talked
about this on a Colt's rejects or if it was
somewhere else, but you know, I've said this for years
that if we want to find ancient more ancient stuff
in America we're going to have to look at that.
I don't think people realize how much of the US
(21:11):
is effectively off limits because of the federal government, you know,
designating it as protected land or federal land or you know,
closed to two people. And honestly, you know, if you
(21:33):
really want to put your conspiracy hat on, you can
go back to when all of you know, when they
designated all of this land across the country as national
parks and federal land. Yeah, that that was more of
a move to like hide these different locations in areas
where there may may be things worth investigating. It's hard
(21:59):
to say that, you know, you know, what are you
gonna know? You I mean, unless you can go out
there and explore it, you'll never know.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
It's it's like why would they do that? Though, Like
it's one of those things like you sit there and
you just try to ponder. It doesn't make any sense
unless they're trying to control the narrative. But why why
does it even matter? Like, I, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It's a real you know, I think it would you know,
if we found evidence of ancient civilizations and stuff you
know you're talking about in America, we'd have to rewrite
in our entire all history, not just American history, that
would rewrite world history. And then you know, there's been
a carefully crafted narrative of manifest destiny when you know,
(22:55):
people were coming over here and settling the land and
moving into to the to the land from Europe. This
this idea that had been pushed for so long of
the you know, the whole concept of manifest destiny and
and different things like that. Right, so you know, it's
a whole rewriting of history, world history, because you'd have
(23:18):
to look at, well, where did these if people built this,
then the narrative that we have about the people that
we're already here is wrong. Yeah, and you know the
people that did come over here and create that who now?
I mean, it raises tons of questions, it does it,
(23:42):
you know, and it's interesting, it's interesting. That's those are
interesting concepts to explore, for sure.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
And I think it's bizarre that though, and I understand
people you get this a lot in this uh, in
this community right with with you know, everything from cryptids
to to even biblical stuff to everything. Is that what
ends up happening is is like bottom line is we
(24:10):
don't know shit and as soon as something new comes,
they're like, Okay, this, this is what happened, you know,
like Clovis, so this is what we found. This is it?
This must be the first, you know, Clovis first, that
whole thing, right, and there's no and we're going to
(24:33):
stay in this little box. And because it's easy and
it accounts for everything and anything below there, we're not
going there.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
You know, I've never really understood academic the academic need
to present things as final and figured out.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
And they do it with everything day, the proverbial day, right.
I mean they do it in Egypt, they do it,
they do it everywhere. The academics that whatever they dig
their heels in, it's like this is it. And then
they end up having to shift the goalposts when somebody
dies or somebody has so much you know, incontroversial convertible
(25:14):
data or proof that they have to move the goalpost
then and they it's like they just don't want to
do it, or maybe not the goalpost, but the first
down markers. Right, It's like that chain is like so
heavy to try and move for anything that just people
get that tonal vision in it. I don't understand. It
(25:36):
drives me crazy, and I do. I do understand it
because I've now that I've been in like the Sasquatch community.
I get why these people hold on to this, you know,
blood and bone to the death. It is because that's
what their entire livelihood is based on. So I get it.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
But you know it, and maybe you can understand this
a little bit because compare this a lot of times.
It's an easy mindset to understand coming from military background,
because I have a lot of friends that have been
in combat and done differ different things that that you know,
(26:15):
if you if you try to talk to them about
that a lot that a lot of these wars and
different things have been none of them have been for
the reasons that we've been told. It wasn't some greater
ulterior motive. It was all for profit, and it was
all for all sorts of other different things that that
that it puts into question the things that they did,
(26:39):
and that's too difficult to look at, right, So they
doubled down and their whole identity for the rest of
their life becomes about on the military service, right, because
they can't face the idea that some of the things
they did were not were not that maybe in some scenarios,
(27:01):
they were the bad guy because they were fooled, right,
And and so you have that same type of mindset,
especially in academic circles where you've built you know, if
you're a guy that's been an archaeologist, for example, and
you've been chasing a theory and stuff and you've built
your whole career for thirty years on this, and you're,
(27:23):
you know, a tenured professor, and you've put out multiple
books and you've contributed to this idea, you don't want
to You're not gonna want to. You you have every
reason as a human to resist the idea that everything
that you've done for the last thirty years could be
(27:43):
not accurate. And it was just a piece of the puzzle.
It wasn't the answer, it was just a part of it, right,
And and that's hard for people to do, just like it,
it's hard, i think for veterans a lot of times
to look at their service in a way that's reflective
of all the information. And so it's it's it's a
(28:04):
tough mindset, and so approaching things with the idea that
we don't know anything. We're just asking a lot of questions.
And as you really get down to what truth is.
You can start checking off boxes, but most of the
time questions just lead to more questions and stuff. But
the cool thing about that is it starts painting a
bigger picture, right, instead of this narrowly focused idea of
(28:28):
some linear development of our timeline throughout history. It's much
more complicated than that, and you know, it leaves space
for your brain to really, you know, better understand the
world and what you live in a lot of times
it's practical even to you know, in the present, in
(28:49):
your present day, in your present time, and how you
move through the world. Anyways, two cents on that a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
No, it's amazing, it's good. Absolutely, I just yeah, I
know that this has made me less rigid in my
thought processes. You know, is because as soon as you start.
What I've learned is that as soon as you start
to think you know it, you get slapped in the
(29:20):
face and then no, no, no, little boy, you don't
know nothing. Yeah, because here's how it is, at least
for this week, right, What are some Is there any
place that you haven't been that you would love to
go to?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
India and Greece and Russia and Greece. Out of all
I've been to so many places, hundreds and hundreds and
hundreds of ancient sites and around the world, and I
still haven't been to India Greece, which is crazy.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah, India's wild man. Yeah, yeah, I've only got a taste.
Like it was like a you know, like like get touchdown,
hang out, and then we were off again. It was
wild and culture.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Man.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, It's just it's so different I I you know,
I tried years ago for several years to get over
to India, and something kept happening where I had to
cancel those trips and and then the opportunity so many
other things started happening. It didn't get back on the
(30:36):
on the radar, and it is now and I'm hoping
to get over there maybe in twenty seven. India is
a place where when I go, I want to be
there for a month or two. There's so much to
see and it's such a massive country. You know, it's
going to take that long and I still won't even
come close to seeing everything. But and then Greece is
(30:58):
one that I'm hoping to knock out next year. Uh,
because I got to get over there and visit Greece.
That's crazy that I haven't been to Greece. You know,
I've been everywhere else in the Mediterranean, right except for Greece,
which is crazy. So I've been to Spain and Italy
and Egypt and Turkey and everywhere, and you know, Lebanon and.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
I literally you had to like leap frog Greece to
get to here, I.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Know, right, and Malta been, like I've been to all
those places and I haven't been. It's just crazy. So
I need to get over there. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
So you never got to go to Kosovo, did you you?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
No? No, No, I got to to Korea. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Man, I can tell you too. I'm I love. I
spent a year in Bosnia and man, it's just that
it's does mountains have secrets, Like there's there's stuff that's
really old, like you know, I mean we were spending
time every day we drove by this castle, right that
(31:57):
was up perched on like the side of a mountain,
and that castle was built in the you know, like
ten something, uh, And it's just like to see something
like that, yeah, and just know that there's other things
around it that are even older. You're just like, man,
this is wild.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
But my buddy. We joined the military together, and we've
been friends since I was a kid, since I was
a teenager. We're still best buds today. We joined together
and he ended up going to Kosovo and Bosnia. He
did a tour over there and then, but he only
ever had really cool things to say about that his
(32:40):
time over there, even though he was over there on
you know, combat missions. Yeah, he still loved his time
over there.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Same. Yeah, the food the other thing. I'm a kind
of a foodie, so I love the different foods everywhere. Yeah,
same part of the I'll eat anything, and I actually
end up getting save whatever.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I never get That's well, I wouldn't say I get sick.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
It's just there's times I'm like, oh, yeah, probably shouldn't
have done that, but whatever, And I was like whatever,
and I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
But you know, that's one thing I feel really I
drink the water, I eat the food. I never get sick.
I'm really lucky about that. And it's works out pretty
well considering that I travel so much. So it's it's
that's nice. And I always feel like I need to
knock on wood after I say that, or I next.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Trip, you know, getting like treggonosis or something.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
You know, but I pet life straw with you.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, I pet all the animals, I eat all the food,
I drink all the water. I don't know, it's whatever.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
That's awesome. Yeah. So I've been doing this. I've been
doing a lot of research on headwaters, right, and they're
like temples and religious based stuff that's built next to
these headwaters. And so many of them are in India,
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you know that they have they have temples at the
headwaters of like every single major river in India or
you know, going up even into Nepal and Bhutan and whatnot,
where all the glacial runoff comes from. And I can
only imagine the temples and what those you know, some
(34:33):
of them have been there thousands of years, unreal, and
they're up to you know, I wouldn't say up to date,
but they're they're maintained.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
So Adams Bridge in India, No, so there's a you know,
scientists always said it was just a natural feature. But
there was a this uh what looked like underwater, but
they said it was a natural reef that connects India
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to Sri Lanka. And there's an ancient Indian story about
the king's and his wife being stolen from another by
another king, if I had that right, and escaping over
to Sri Lanka, and then that other king building a
(35:24):
bridge to get over to them. And then they've found
recently in the last decade or so, I think they
have proof now that that is an actual bridge. It's
an ancient bridge and you can see it under where
you can see it from Google Maps.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, and wanted to get down there and check it out.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
But Africa. What about Africa?
Speaker 4 (35:45):
You've been in Africa that you brought up Adams Bridge.
Have you ever been down to like South Africa, like
Adams Calendar and places like that.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
No, No, Egypt the agency extent of my travels in Africa, Unfortunately,
I'd like to explore more.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Have you heard about Adam's Calendar. No, it's a megalithic
stone circle down in South Africa, believed by some to
be one of the oldest man made structures in the world.
They're talking like seventy five thousand years old. Really, Yeah,
so it was nicknamed it's nicknamed Africa's Stonehenge. But so,
(36:30):
I can't remember the guy that I first watched this
on It's unbelievable. There's there's this Adams calendar, but then
there's all these other structures that just dot. They're all
around it, and you're talking about hundreds of these structures.
So you should look it up online.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Absolutely, potentially one of the oldest man made structures in
the world, pre dating Stone Henge and Giza by a lot,
you know.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, so that's right up my alley. You know, these
places that don't get a lot of the attention are
hard to get to. Yeah, it's one of those.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
It is. And you've got that, and then obviously like
you have the Rishot structure. Have you been you haven't
been there now right now? Yeah, I don't even know
what to think of that. It's one of those.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Things, you know. I get asked that every once in
a while, and it's not really on my radar. It's
not it's not a place I'm really.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Ye same, Probably I'm good listening to Jimmy Corsetti talk
about it.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, there's other guys doing it. There's Archaic lens Is
out there right now, I think, or wait here, he's
just posting a lot of stuff from his trip out
there right now on Twitter and David Stig Stig has
Go has been out there several times, so they've got
videos out on it. Yeah, it's not not really on
(37:57):
my radar as as kind of a point of interest
people who are documenting it and diving into that. I
really like to go to places where it's you know,
there's clear megalithic ruins. The megalists are really intrigued me.
And the older the better, you know.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Yeah, for sure, it's like this place I don't know,
I can't pronounce, like it's like the bio blue as
GRL stone ruins, right, And that's Adam's Calendar's part of that.
But it's like this ten thousand square kilometers wow, like
one hundred and fifty kilometers long north to south and
(38:39):
about fifty east to west. The area is estimated to
have once been occupied by the Baco some of the people.
But that's a huge area and there's just these stone
ruins all over it.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yeah, I have to check that out.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
So, and it's one of those places that's not it's
like on the I wouldn't say it's desert, but it's
you know, it's like that air like kind of more
like a savannah type. So stuff is kind of preserved
because it's getting you know, it's not very humid. There's
just it's pretty cool. So anyway, it's a place that's
(39:17):
always hit me because I've heard about it. I have
a family that lived in South Africa and Botswana, so
they they're they were straight like Afrikaans.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Folks, and this was really interesting.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah, so I heard it from that when I was
young originally, So yeah, pretty neat and cool.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
You learn something new every day, right, new I was
we were talking before the stream and this is funny.
I mean funny. I kind of feel ashamed. And I
was hanging out with Hugh Newman from megal Limania over
in the UK and he was giving me crap for this,
but you know, I went over there. It did this
(40:04):
stone hinge equinox thing where you can walk all amongst it. Yeah,
and then he's like, hey, you got to come with
me tomorrow. We got to go down to Avebury and
I was like, okay, what's there. He's like, well, it's
like the world's largest stone circle. And I was like what.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I was like, I've never heard of it, and he's like,
what do you mean you've never heard of it? I'm
like I'm like, I don't know, man, I never UK
has not been a place that I've just like been
like I'm going to go check out all all this
ancient stuff and for whatever reason, you know what I mean, Yeah,
but there's so much stuff to see over there, actually.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
So much stuff. And I've always wanted to go to
Scotland and like gone through above the Hadrians Wall. I mean,
not that so much stuffed because nobody ever talks about
the Picks because we don't really know much about them, right,
But there's all kinds of ruins, yeah, things of them,
(40:59):
and it's like just don't know because they didn't, right,
they didn't, they didn't do any of that.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
And yeah, Scotland's beautiful. It's that's a beautiful trip. I
did it the year a couple of years ago. And
then Ireland's incredible. It's amazing. It's got New Grange and
Dolmens everywhere.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
And yeah, the Dolmens I did. The other thing that's
cool are those chalk like the chalk Pyramids or the
chalk mounds that they make out of chalk and not
in and that's more in England, right that you know,
I'm talking about them.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
The like effigies, the pictures and stuff all.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
That, but these are these are actual mounds that are
made with chalk. They like long barrow, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, I check that out recently on my trip.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Yeah, like Silbury Hill, which is in Avebury. Yeah, I'm
not far from Stonehenge, right, but yeah, all that's pretty
close to each other and it's covered with like uh sod,
but underneath it's all chalk, right, just like what are
(42:18):
we doing?
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Man?
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Is it like a lookout tower? What is it?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
What do we do?
Speaker 4 (42:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, the one I visited out there, it was on
a hill. Yeah, it was kind of like what is this?
And it's it's funny because I did. I didn't know
how I was supposed to get out there. There are
no clear markers, and I ended up driving my car
all the way up to it through a field and
(42:46):
then realized that that that you were supposed to like
park way off it was like a mile hike and
I just to it across farmland basically. Oh and I out.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
No, I don't think it was you that we were
talking to, but I feel like I was talking not
that long ago about a guy that we're all over
the place right now. But down in South America we're
talking about like the Inca, right, and or even you know,
just where they lived obviously is very mountainous, right, and
(43:25):
there's these little like lookout who where did I hear this?
I don't remember, but they somebody was looking at these
little lookout things that are like perched on like the
side of some of these mountains, like you've got like
Machu Pichu and and other things, but you've got these
little tiny like they literally like century spots where it
(43:48):
looks like they might have communicated with fire, like the
British are coming whatever, the Spanish are coming, and their
light and watch tower fires like Lord of the Rings
or something, right, and that they've got them dotted. There's
you can get up into one and you can see
something like one in every single direction. I can't remember
(44:11):
who was talking about that. I guess it wasn't you, though.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
There is an incredible country, just fascinating.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
We don't know anything about Peru. I mean, there's so
much that's hidden, all the all those cultures, buying culture,
all of it. It's so such a mystery. But yeah,
there's so much there, but yet it's such a mystery.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
So yeah, absolutely, it's perusic. I think only just begun
to reveal all of its secrets.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Yeah, the jungle, I mean, you get I could live
with light iron things like that. It's changed the game,
but it's still you still have to get there.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, it's that's that's that's an amazing country. It's just
like you know, and I look at Cusco kind of
like the roam of South America. It's just that's such
an amazing I love it there. I love that city.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
And you say you can live in Peru.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Oh yeah, I could live in Peru. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
Do you like kooi?
Speaker 2 (45:21):
It's okay, it's greasy.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
Folks don't know what kooi is. This guinea fit.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
We did a I did a tour there last year,
and our last dinner together, we did a big traditional
kooi meal and brought it. Everybody brought it out, and
a lot of the people were just like freaked out.
The girls were freaked out. Well what they did was
they brought out these cooked guinea pigs, but they put
(45:51):
little dresses and hats on them.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Oh my god, wow, that's amazing. You know.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
So obviously some of the the ladies on the tour
were like what the hell you know? They were like yeah,
crying and uh but everybody tried it. Kuy's it's good,
but it's not there's not a like a ton of
It's not like eating a chicken or something. There's not
a ton of meat on it. Like no, it's like
a squirrel. Yeah, it's really greasy.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Or fat little things.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Yeah, so it can be. You know, that's one of
those those I may have an iron stomach, but that's
one of those meals that can kind of upset your
stomach a little bit because the meat is just so greasy.
But yeah, it's fine. I don't typically unless it's like
for like what we did there and that on that
tour for Peru. It's like a you know, a kind
(46:47):
of a special thing or whatever.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
Yeah, potatoes coo and potatoes about what you got in
absolutely so kind of uh get towards like wrapping it
up a little bit. One of the things that I
love to do my last question usually to folks is
(47:13):
because the name of the podcast is broadcasting seeds, and
that's what we're all about, is planting seeds in people's minds,
right and watching them grow. And I always like to
give the guests an opportunity to plant some seeds.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yeah, it's funny because you know, talking with my writer today, Okay,
who's amazing. We do we co host a live stream
and on my channel weekly and I think right now,
(47:51):
I think, you know, moving forward, it's at least within
this community, I think that the most important thing is,
you know, this is a when you're when we were
talking about when we're talking about exploring history and looking
into all these ideas. I think all lines of thought
are reasonable, and I think it's important for people to
(48:14):
remember that just because you don't agree with something, or
you think that that line of thinking or research is
off base, it's still important for people to pursue those
paths independently. Like everything bears fruit if people if their
ultimate goal is that they're looking for truth. And so
I think moving forward and especially you know, into this
(48:38):
next year, as things continue to grow and grow, because
we're not ever going to run This is the cool
thing about this area of interest is we're never going
to run out of new stuff. There's always going to
be new stuff being discovered and new ideas being presented
in ways things change and shift in terms of our
understanding of the past. And I think it's really important
(49:01):
for people to to be supportive within the community, to
to get plugged in places because the things are getting
big enough that that that's one of those things that's
really important. And and the thing that keeps resonating with
me is community and collaboration. And so you know, understanding that,
(49:25):
you know, if you and I have different opinions on
aliens or cryptids or something, that's fine, where's our common ground? Right? Yeah,
And and and even insofar as you know, communicating or
working with people in academics, you know, in the academic
(49:46):
field of you know, making it easy for them to
start understanding that we are their target audience if they
want to grow and keep up and not have programs
and things shut down at universities the way they've been happening. Yeah,
there's there's they're gonna have to meet us in the
(50:08):
middle were we are their target target audience. But let's
do that with open arms, you know, in a way
that's you can I think the critique and accountability are
things that need to happen one hundred percent, but we
you know, we can do it in a in a
kind manner. And so the things that have been really
resonating for me and have always resonated me with me.
(50:30):
Was for starting all this, and really once I started
getting going, was wanting to inspire people. I shared a
bit about my story and I can't tell you how
good it feels. You can't. I can't put a price.
I was making way more money back then than I
am now, and I was miserable and I wake up
(50:52):
every day now and I'm grateful and I'm happy, and
I can't put a price tag on that. You couldn't.
I would never go act just to get those paychecks
to where I was before and give up what I
have now. And so I and one of the biggest
things that came from all of this of me doing
all this and wanting to inspire people to find that
(51:14):
for themselves as well and different things as that was
meeting people and really valuing people. And so I think
that that's where the community aspect really comes in and
connecting with people, because I do believe that, you know,
we talked a little bit about stuff like America and
looking at sites in America. I do believe there's more
(51:34):
to find, and I know I totally understand that not
everybody can go off and travel all around the world.
But there's plenty of things that people can do and
explore in their own backyards. I live in Austin, Texas,
and there's cart ruts here. There's multiple cart rut sites here,
and I know places like that all over the country.
So there's something near you that you could be involved in,
(51:57):
and you could go take a hike on a weekend
and take trues of and then share it with the community.
Get involved somewhere on social media or in your favor
and you know your favorite content creators, live streams and things,
and talk to people and connect or go to conferences
and connect with people in person. There's all sorts of
(52:20):
stuff that people can do. And by doing that, your ideas,
people's ideas and their theories and different things that they're
working on. They get to be bounced off of other
people's thoughts and ideas and hear new perspective, and that's
how we'll grow things even quicker. And that goes for
all different areas, not just megalists and stuff, which is
what I'm into, but every kind of branching alternative area
(52:47):
of interest. Right, So that would be if I was
going to plan a seed that would be it is
is uh, you know, be the thing that you want.
If if you want growth within the community, be that growth.
If you want friends within the community, go be a friend.
If you want to see things get worked one more
in this way, and don't be discouraged by numbers and
(53:09):
things on you know. I mean, if I let that
discourage me. When I started this, I'd quit years ago
because it took me almost five years just to get
up to any kind of semblance of probably longer than
that of of like is this happening? And so yeah, yeah,
I'm like what am I doing? Like, I'm just making
(53:31):
videos for nobody? Is what it felt like for half
a decade? Yeah and so.
Speaker 4 (53:38):
And then one day just yeah it clicks right, They like,
holy shit, here I am.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yeah, stick with it and contribute people, you know, I
think everybody has something valuable to share, whether it's their
opinion or like I said, going out for a hike
and taking pictures and sharing that.
Speaker 4 (53:55):
Yeah, what's what's the old adage that they attributed to God?
But it's not it's not him. I don't think I
thought I had them. Oh there it is. Be the
change you wish to see in the world.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
That's so good. Yeah, like so true, because what happens
is if you be that thing, you'll see that thing
reflected back to you. Yeap, you know.
Speaker 4 (54:22):
Absolutely. I want to be a podcaster and a filmmaker.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
There you go, and then you just start and then
just stick with.
Speaker 4 (54:31):
Just got to do it. Can't do it unless you
do it.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Can't do it unless you do it right. Sometimes it's
really simple. We're the ones that make it really hard.
Speaker 4 (54:39):
Yeah, getting our expectations.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
A lot of times, getting our own way. Yeah sure, yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:45):
Man, tell people where they can find you again.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
Yeah, absolutely. YouTube channels Wandering Wolf that's with an a
A lot of people spell it wo, but it's wa wandering,
wandering around, wandering and then uh, my website's Wandering Wolf
Productions dot com on and again all my socials are
(55:10):
w Wolf p R O D. I do tours so
if people want to join me on that. I've got
a book coming out, should be out before the end
of the year, and started doing conferences for our con
We have a conference going on in Scottsdale December fifth
through the seventh Quest for Ancient Civilizations. It's going to
(55:33):
be a banger. We just announced this week. We've got
Randall Carson coming on. He just joined us. Randall Carson
will be be there with us and uh a whole,
a whole amazing lineup and I'll be speaking there December. Yeah,
be nice and I guess I don't know.
Speaker 4 (55:56):
I love I love Scottsdale.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
So yeah, yeah, so yeah you can. You can find
all my stuff. You can watch my footage on Ancient
Aliens and different TV shows. Also, uh, do a lot
of your own footage for stuff.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
Awesome. Yeah, So thank you for coming on, man, man,
thank you for having me, absolutely and we'll do it
against him.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
Love it, love it.
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Speaker 4 (00:56):
Static, Welcome to another broadcast of Broadcasting Seeds tonight. We're
here with Michael Collins from Wandering Wolf Productions. This is
gonna be a good one, folks. Michael, tell us who
you are, what you do and where we can find you.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me on. That's
a good question. I I don't know what I'm doing
half the time, so thank you. A good question. I
have a YouTube channel. I travel around the world filming
ancient sites and documenting sites, sharing that with people, host tours,
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and we're doing conferences now, so stay pretty busy. But yeah,
all things ancient. Really it's amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
What's the best place to find you?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I think most people are my mayby familiar can go
to my YouTube channel, Wandering Wolf, and then uh, my
website's Wandering Wolf Productions dot com and then you can
find me on all socials at w Wolf Prod p
R o D.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
All right, yeah, awesome, simple, very simple, very simple some people. Man,
it's all like you have congruency. A lot of people have.
They're just all over the places like a man.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I wouldn't be able to find my own stony get
as easy.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
As as as possible, right, Oh man. So first question
I like to ask everyone is what was like your
your entry into this this world that we're in. And
I and I say high strangeness because it kind of
blankets the entire thing. You know, you're not really a
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per se, cryptid guy, but you do ancient sites and
that goes down all kinds of rabbit holes, you know.
So what's what's the thing that got you into this
this world that we're in here?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, man, you know some of it touches on things.
We're talking just a minute ago. We're both veterans, and
thank you for your service. By the way, didn't we
just have a you two Veterans Day or something? No,
Veterans Day is next week next week, okay.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Yeah. The only reason I know it's Veterans Day is
because I'm a marine. Yeah, and it's the day after
the Marine Corps birthday, so we're kind of crazy about
the night two and fifty years this year. So it's
the same with the Army, though it was the Army's birthday. Yeah,
maybe that's what you're thinking of. It was like a
week ago or two weeks ago. I was a marine
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in the Army, so I just never learned the army stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, you kept you kept the marine mentality the whole time.
I bet they loved you.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Now they hated me, So that's that was that was
kind of made me want to do it more.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, yeah, you know, so I served during an interesting time.
I was serving I was in in in the military
in the Army during when nine to eleven happened, So
I was already enlisted and going through some training. When
nine eleven happened, I was out in the field. So things,
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as far as military life goes, everything changed dramatically. You know,
we had open bases. You could just anybody could drive
on base and off base, and motor pools were left
wide open. And by the time I got out back
from the field and the training I was doing, everything
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was locked down. It was just totally different. And you
know that. So the following couple of years I had
been training for Kosovo, everything shifted to Iraq. My unit
was training for Kosovo and and everything shifted over to Iraq. Well,
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I came down on orders during the training that I
was doing when nine to eleven happened for Korea, so
I didn't get to go with my unit, and I
ended up over in Korea. And you know, it was
an interesting time. There were some things that happened, but
you know, if you're serving in the military, you've got
to get a peek behind the curtain of how things
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really happened. And there were a lot of things that
didn't make sense about nine to eleven to me. And
I don't know where people stand, but for me, you know,
there's no way I can watch those towers fall and
not see debt charges. You know, it was just clear.
It's just clear as day that they're blowing out a
level by level, and if you've worked with explosives, I mean,
it's just it's obvious. And that started churning around in
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my head. And I was sitting there for several years.
And then when I was getting out, you know, there
were some other things that were really you know, they
were trying to make I was two weeks from getting out,
and they were trying to make me do the anthrax
vaccine and I said no, they didn't like that, but
I was getting out in two weeks.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
And.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
You know some of those things. As the years progressed,
I got more and more interested in things like ancient
history and stuff. Right, So, you know, at the time,
there wasn't this big community of people. I don't even
know if YouTube existed way back then, but then you
know when YouTube did kind of start and come around
and it became a thing, there wasn't this big community
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of and you know, plethora of content on ancient history.
So what was everybody watching that was into this stuff. Well,
they were watching ancient Aliens. And I was seeing places
that I'd never heard of before because of that show.
So whether you you know, believe in aliens and that
aliens built everything or not, that was a lot of
people's first introduction to some of these sites around the world.
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It was for me. And as people started creating more
and more content on that on YouTube, I started doing
deep dives and going into rabbit holes, all sorts of topics,
not just ancient history stuff but everything. And I was
working in a career that I hated. I was working
in sales. I ended up finally finding my way into,
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you know, somewhat of a career doing sales work after
the military. And that went on for twelve years, ten
twelve years something like that, and I was just miserable
and it led to a whole host of issues in
my life. And what I realized was, you know, none
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of I was making great money, and it didn't matter,
it didn't matter how much money I was making. I
wasn't happy. And that was just I realized, you know,
that was just not enough for me. I needed something more.
I need up dating a girl and she traveled a lot,
and I ended up down in Peru and I went to,
you know, my first megalithic site, which was Saxy Wuman.
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As soon as I went to that site, put my
hands on those stones, I just knew that that was
what I wanted to do. I had quit my job
already and I was about a year into that. I
decided I was going to travel for a year, went
to that site. I knew that's what I wanted to do,
and I didn't know what I was doing. I had
no experience filming or anything like that, and I just thought,
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maybe I can just pump some videos out. I had
an army buddy and we'd connect after we both got
gotten out of the military. Every year do hikes and
stuff like that. Heep carry a GoPro around my buddy
Kirby and make these these hiking videos. And I thought, well,
maybe I can do that with this started doing that
and it just kind of grew into this thing that
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I decided I wasn't going to quit on and and
that you know, that's what I did. Is a lot
of times I weren't I wasn't making any money, YouTube,
wasn't paying the bills, no, and you know it. You know,
I think it took me years to get over a
thousand subscribers, and then at some point, you know, my
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content I think started resonating with people to the point
where the channel started growing and and some of that
was calculated. I knew there were places that I wanted
to go and see that I thought would be really
great that nobody else did at the time. It was China,
and I felt like if I got over to China
and filmed long U Caves and yang Shan Quory, I
would have something that people would have to pay attention to,
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because at the time there were only pictures and they
were old. And so I I got over there and
filmed that site and then released it and it and
it did. People were coming to my channel to watch
those videos. Now you can find all sorts of videos
on those on those places, but at the time I
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believe I was the only person that had gone there
and filmed it right, and so that really helped the
channel grow. And then I just really started enjoying getting
to some of these more far out locations and places
that were less known about or had not been documented. Well,
that's getting harder to do these days, because everybody's doing
it now, right. But I really enjoy that getting out
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to really far out places that are pretty hard, and
I like the travel aspect of it. Everything that's involved
in doing that and pulling it off, I really enjoy.
There's a short version for you of how we got
from there to hear I suppose.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
So, what's your favorite place that you've ever been?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh, ball back, probably it's just amazing to you. Yeah,
it's I've said this many times before. It's kind of
like the Rosetta stone for ancient stone working features at
megalithic sites. It literally has everything at that location, you
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can find everything. And Lebanon and of itself is just amazing.
There's there's things there that aren't even recognized yet. And
you know, we're stumbled upon a quarry that hadn't been
identified at a known religious site. There's a site there
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for one of Jesus' first miracles where he turned supposedly
turned water into wine. Yeah, and there's a quart that's
it's on a quarry. There's a quarry there and everybody
just walks by it and it's like railings and stuff
built up and you just walk past all of that,
all of the quarry to get down to this cave
where the miracle happened. But you're and it's just it
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was blowing my mind. It's just like does anybody know
about this? Like Lebanon's amazing and the other another trip
that places really stood out to me just for the
experience with Bolivia and going to see Puma Punku and Tiwanaku.
But Peru is incredible as well. I could live in
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Peru and Ireland is what was one of my favorite trips.
But that that was that really both you know, both
sides of my family are Irish descent, and yeah, that
was really kind of uh special to me to be
able to do that. But yeah, it's hard to pick
just one. China That China.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Amazing can amazing. I can imagine. I during nine to eleven,
I was in Egypt when it happened. We were a
part of a multinational force there watching these the Israelis
on one side and the Egyptians on the other, making
sure that they're not fighting. Yeah, well we got to
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take some are in our time and go to the
to Giza and it was pretty crazy. We got to
go there, We got to go to Alexandria and then
to Mount Sign Well it's what they call Mount Sinai
and whatnot, but who knows who knows that story that
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if that's the actual mountain. Either way, we got to
go through Saint Catherine's monastery that's at the base of that,
and the monk that gave us a tours, this guy
he had lived there thirty five years, was from Ohio
just and showed us all the codexes and just this
library of this insane and I think we got to
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see it because we got you know, it was it
was a special tour for us for military guys. But
then I got to walk Mount sina I walk up.
I mean, you can take camels, but I decided to
walk it and it took like six hours and it
was awesome. So that I love those things, man, I
love I love history in general. So I guess what
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about So you've got North America, but what about the
United States in particular. I think we had talked about
this when we were on Called Rejects together, and I
think we brought it up.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I brought up what was onere of the.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Places in America that just kind of blow people's that
blow your mind a little bit, you know. I know
we talked about the Sage Wall, but there's got to
be other places too.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, Sage Wall is amazing and I've I've really been
trying to plug them a lot lately as far as
they've done a lot of research on that site, and
they have made that all public It's released on their website.
It's Sage Mountaincenter dot org. And so they have a
whole notes, whole page uh there with all of the
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release all their data from the research they've been doing
up there, so light are ground penetrating, radar lab analysis
of the stones and stuff. They've released all that publicly now,
which is amazing. And Yeah, Montana's great and that's a
great site to visit. There's other places here in America.
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And I think that people aren't fully aware of how
much ancient stuff is here in America.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
There's a.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Massive mound culture that existed here in America. And there's
literally I think millions of mountains across the usk and stuff.
And Kahoki is incredible. You can walk right up to
the top of that, which is amazing. There are Dolmens
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up in New York. Yeah, Yeah, and Chance, I think
it's balanced Rock is really impressed some one up there
in New York. I actually have a video on that,
just just to walk through video showing walking around it
and showing it but on my channel, which was really good.
So there's a lot of places, and obviously if you
get into the American Southwest, you know, you really get
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into places like Choco Canyon in different places like that
that are pretty incredible. And then petroglyphs and things, yeah,
that are really worth looking at and exploring.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
What's the American Stonehenge up and yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, I got a video out on that one too
on the channel. It's it's it's interesting. I would like
to make a I did a video on that where
I just filmed me walking the site, but I'd like
to take that footage and do a more introspective video
where you're getting some more details and information because some
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of that that video just it didn't it's just showing
you the site. There's no dialogue or anything. But yeah,
it's a really cool site. And the owner, you know,
I'm sorry but I can't remember his name off the
top of my head. I got to talk with him
for a bit and it's really interesting. He's running that
whole site and has been for years, and it's it's
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it's really cool. It's set up and done well for
access to visitors.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I haven't been up there, and I don't want to go.
So it's not that far.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
From me, and it's not far from a balanced rock, right,
relatively speaking, you got to keep in mind on me
from Texas.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
So right, so the East Coast is a little.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Everything floats comparatively, at least on the East comparatively.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
When I get up there, You're like, oh, it's it's
an eight hour drive. That's nothing here. You can't get
almost anywhere in eight hours in the Northeast. So I
mean you're you're going from New York to Maine, So yeah, exactly, absolutely, Yeah,
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uh so, what what do you think? And you brought
up ancient Amian's earlier, so it's kind of peaked. My
I just went and saw them. They're like road show
that they do. Yeah, last year it was pretty it
was interesting. It's pretty funny. I've watched all the I've
watched so many of the episodes, But what do you
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think is going on in the Grand Canyon? Man?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I tell you what, Man, that's that's one of those
places that I've wanted to just sneak off into and
just explore.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
It.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I think it totally makes sense. There's all sorts of
features if you dig into about the Grand Canyon that
don't make a lot of sense. There's you know, I mean,
if you go look at the names of some of
the peaks there in the Grand Canyon, it's Temple of
the Snakes, Temple up. They're all Egyptian names for all
of these supposed natural features there in the Grand Canyon, right,
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They're all named after Egyptian you know, temples and things.
And then you if you start looking at them really closely,
you have a lot of really like ninety degree angles
and stuff, and some of those cliff sides where you know,
if it was carved out by water, that shouldn't be
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the case, right, and then you wouldn't think so. Yeah,
And if you've seen enough collapsed ruins and ancient ruins
as I have, they really do have a feel of
uh ruins, you know. Just it's easy to let your
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mind look at some of those those spots and and
see what they might have been actually if we were
if you're if you're choosing to look through them of
the lens of potentially being ancient ruins that are just
in total disrepair and collapse. And then obviously, you know,
you have the stories of what was the what the
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gentleman's name was that.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I can never remember it.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, that explored down there and reported on finding Egyptian artifacts,
went back to the Smithsonian with those reports, and then
they took him off of the assignment, and then all
of that area became off limits eventually, right so, and
then those areas are still off limits. And I've explored
the Grand Canyon. I've done Rim to Rim and stayed
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and slept down inside the Grand Canyon, and it, if
you know, it's wild. It feels like you're in a
lost world type of situation, you know, And uh yeah,
I'd really love to go off trail out there into
those areas.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
And it's just like why did they I mean, they
say it's a safety issue, but it's like, come on, man, Like.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well I think And I don't know if we talked
about this on a Colt's rejects or if it was
somewhere else, but you know, I've said this for years
that if we want to find ancient more ancient stuff
in America we're going to have to look at that.
I don't think people realize how much of the US
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is effectively off limits because of the federal government, you know,
designating it as protected land or federal land or you know,
closed to two people. And honestly, you know, if you
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really want to put your conspiracy hat on, you can
go back to when all of you know, when they
designated all of this land across the country as national
parks and federal land. Yeah, that that was more of
a move to like hide these different locations in areas
where there may may be things worth investigating. It's hard
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to say that, you know, you know, what are you
gonna know? You I mean, unless you can go out
there and explore it, you'll never know.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
It's it's like why would they do that? Though, Like
it's one of those things like you sit there and
you just try to ponder. It doesn't make any sense
unless they're trying to control the narrative. But why why
does it even matter? Like, I, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It's a real you know, I think it would you know,
if we found evidence of ancient civilizations and stuff you
know you're talking about in America, we'd have to rewrite
in our entire all history, not just American history, that
would rewrite world history. And then you know, there's been
a carefully crafted narrative of manifest destiny when you know,
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people were coming over here and settling the land and
moving into to the to the land from Europe. This
this idea that had been pushed for so long of
the you know, the whole concept of manifest destiny and
and different things like that. Right, so you know, it's
a whole rewriting of history, world history, because you'd have
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to look at, well, where did these if people built this,
then the narrative that we have about the people that
we're already here is wrong. Yeah, and you know the
people that did come over here and create that who now?
I mean, it raises tons of questions, it does it,
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you know, and it's interesting, it's interesting. That's those are
interesting concepts to explore, for sure.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
And I think it's bizarre that though, and I understand
people you get this a lot in this uh, in
this community right with with you know, everything from cryptids
to to even biblical stuff to everything. Is that what
ends up happening is is like bottom line is we
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don't know shit and as soon as something new comes,
they're like, Okay, this, this is what happened, you know,
like Clovis, so this is what we found. This is it?
This must be the first, you know, Clovis first, that
whole thing, right, and there's no and we're going to
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stay in this little box. And because it's easy and
it accounts for everything and anything below there, we're not
going there.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
You know, I've never really understood academic the academic need
to present things as final and figured out.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
And they do it with everything day, the proverbial day, right.
I mean they do it in Egypt, they do it,
they do it everywhere. The academics that whatever they dig
their heels in, it's like this is it. And then
they end up having to shift the goalposts when somebody
dies or somebody has so much you know, incontroversial convertible
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data or proof that they have to move the goalpost
then and they it's like they just don't want to
do it, or maybe not the goalpost, but the first
down markers. Right, It's like that chain is like so
heavy to try and move for anything that just people
get that tonal vision in it. I don't understand. It
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drives me crazy, and I do. I do understand it
because I've now that I've been in like the Sasquatch community.
I get why these people hold on to this, you know,
blood and bone to the death. It is because that's
what their entire livelihood is based on. So I get it.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
But you know it, and maybe you can understand this
a little bit because compare this a lot of times.
It's an easy mindset to understand coming from military background,
because I have a lot of friends that have been
in combat and done differ different things that that you know,
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if you if you try to talk to them about
that a lot that a lot of these wars and
different things have been none of them have been for
the reasons that we've been told. It wasn't some greater
ulterior motive. It was all for profit, and it was
all for all sorts of other different things that that
that it puts into question the things that they did,
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and that's too difficult to look at, right, So they
doubled down and their whole identity for the rest of
their life becomes about on the military service, right, because
they can't face the idea that some of the things
they did were not were not that maybe in some scenarios,
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they were the bad guy because they were fooled, right,
And and so you have that same type of mindset,
especially in academic circles where you've built you know, if
you're a guy that's been an archaeologist, for example, and
you've been chasing a theory and stuff and you've built
your whole career for thirty years on this, and you're,
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you know, a tenured professor, and you've put out multiple
books and you've contributed to this idea, you don't want
to You're not gonna want to. You you have every
reason as a human to resist the idea that everything
that you've done for the last thirty years could be
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not accurate. And it was just a piece of the puzzle.
It wasn't the answer, it was just a part of it, right,
And and that's hard for people to do, just like it,
it's hard, i think for veterans a lot of times
to look at their service in a way that's reflective
of all the information. And so it's it's it's a
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tough mindset, and so approaching things with the idea that
we don't know anything. We're just asking a lot of questions.
And as you really get down to what truth is.
You can start checking off boxes, but most of the
time questions just lead to more questions and stuff. But
the cool thing about that is it starts painting a
bigger picture, right, instead of this narrowly focused idea of
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some linear development of our timeline throughout history. It's much
more complicated than that, and you know, it leaves space
for your brain to really, you know, better understand the
world and what you live in a lot of times
it's practical even to you know, in the present, in
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your present day, in your present time, and how you
move through the world. Anyways, two cents on that a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
No, it's amazing, it's good. Absolutely, I just yeah, I
know that this has made me less rigid in my
thought processes. You know, is because as soon as you start.
What I've learned is that as soon as you start
to think you know it, you get slapped in the
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face and then no, no, no, little boy, you don't
know nothing. Yeah, because here's how it is, at least
for this week, right, What are some Is there any
place that you haven't been that you would love to
go to?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
India and Greece and Russia and Greece. Out of all
I've been to so many places, hundreds and hundreds and
hundreds of ancient sites and around the world, and I
still haven't been to India Greece, which is crazy.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah, India's wild man. Yeah, yeah, I've only got a taste.
Like it was like a you know, like like get touchdown,
hang out, and then we were off again. It was
wild and culture.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Man.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, It's just it's so different I I you know,
I tried years ago for several years to get over
to India, and something kept happening where I had to
cancel those trips and and then the opportunity so many
other things started happening. It didn't get back on the
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on the radar, and it is now and I'm hoping
to get over there maybe in twenty seven. India is
a place where when I go, I want to be
there for a month or two. There's so much to
see and it's such a massive country. You know, it's
going to take that long and I still won't even
come close to seeing everything. But and then Greece is
(30:58):
one that I'm hoping to knock out next year. Uh,
because I got to get over there and visit Greece.
That's crazy that I haven't been to Greece. You know,
I've been everywhere else in the Mediterranean, right except for Greece,
which is crazy. So I've been to Spain and Italy
and Egypt and Turkey and everywhere, and you know, Lebanon and.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
I literally you had to like leap frog Greece to
get to here, I.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Know, right, and Malta been, like I've been to all
those places and I haven't been. It's just crazy. So
I need to get over there. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
So you never got to go to Kosovo, did you you?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
No? No, No, I got to to Korea. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Man, I can tell you too. I'm I love. I
spent a year in Bosnia and man, it's just that
it's does mountains have secrets, Like there's there's stuff that's
really old, like you know, I mean we were spending
time every day we drove by this castle, right that
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was up perched on like the side of a mountain,
and that castle was built in the you know, like
ten something, uh, And it's just like to see something
like that, yeah, and just know that there's other things
around it that are even older. You're just like, man,
this is wild.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
But my buddy. We joined the military together, and we've
been friends since I was a kid, since I was
a teenager. We're still best buds today. We joined together
and he ended up going to Kosovo and Bosnia. He
did a tour over there and then, but he only
ever had really cool things to say about that his
(32:40):
time over there, even though he was over there on
you know, combat missions. Yeah, he still loved his time
over there.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Same. Yeah, the food the other thing. I'm a kind
of a foodie, so I love the different foods everywhere. Yeah,
same part of the I'll eat anything, and I actually
end up getting save whatever.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I never get That's well, I wouldn't say I get sick.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
It's just there's times I'm like, oh, yeah, probably shouldn't
have done that, but whatever, And I was like whatever,
and I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
But you know, that's one thing I feel really I
drink the water, I eat the food. I never get sick.
I'm really lucky about that. And it's works out pretty
well considering that I travel so much. So it's it's
that's nice. And I always feel like I need to
knock on wood after I say that, or I next.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Trip, you know, getting like treggonosis or something.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
You know, but I pet life straw with you.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, I pet all the animals, I eat all the food,
I drink all the water. I don't know, it's whatever.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
That's awesome. Yeah. So I've been doing this. I've been
doing a lot of research on headwaters, right, and they're
like temples and religious based stuff that's built next to
these headwaters. And so many of them are in India,
(34:11):
you know that they have they have temples at the
headwaters of like every single major river in India or
you know, going up even into Nepal and Bhutan and whatnot,
where all the glacial runoff comes from. And I can
only imagine the temples and what those you know, some
(34:33):
of them have been there thousands of years, unreal, and
they're up to you know, I wouldn't say up to date,
but they're they're maintained.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
So Adams Bridge in India, No, so there's a you know,
scientists always said it was just a natural feature. But
there was a this uh what looked like underwater, but
they said it was a natural reef that connects India
(35:02):
to Sri Lanka. And there's an ancient Indian story about
the king's and his wife being stolen from another by
another king, if I had that right, and escaping over
to Sri Lanka, and then that other king building a
(35:24):
bridge to get over to them. And then they've found
recently in the last decade or so, I think they
have proof now that that is an actual bridge. It's
an ancient bridge and you can see it under where
you can see it from Google Maps.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, and wanted to get down there and check it out.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
But Africa. What about Africa?
Speaker 4 (35:45):
You've been in Africa that you brought up Adams Bridge.
Have you ever been down to like South Africa, like
Adams Calendar and places like that.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
No, No, Egypt the agency extent of my travels in Africa, Unfortunately,
I'd like to explore more.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Have you heard about Adam's Calendar. No, it's a megalithic
stone circle down in South Africa, believed by some to
be one of the oldest man made structures in the world.
They're talking like seventy five thousand years old. Really, Yeah,
so it was nicknamed it's nicknamed Africa's Stonehenge. But so,
(36:30):
I can't remember the guy that I first watched this
on It's unbelievable. There's there's this Adams calendar, but then
there's all these other structures that just dot. They're all
around it, and you're talking about hundreds of these structures.
So you should look it up online.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Absolutely, potentially one of the oldest man made structures in
the world, pre dating Stone Henge and Giza by a lot,
you know.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, so that's right up my alley. You know, these
places that don't get a lot of the attention are
hard to get to. Yeah, it's one of those.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
It is. And you've got that, and then obviously like
you have the Rishot structure. Have you been you haven't
been there now right now? Yeah, I don't even know
what to think of that. It's one of those.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Things, you know. I get asked that every once in
a while, and it's not really on my radar. It's
not it's not a place I'm really.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Ye same, Probably I'm good listening to Jimmy Corsetti talk
about it.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, there's other guys doing it. There's Archaic lens Is
out there right now, I think, or wait here, he's
just posting a lot of stuff from his trip out
there right now on Twitter and David Stig Stig has
Go has been out there several times, so they've got
videos out on it. Yeah, it's not not really on
(37:57):
my radar as as kind of a point of interest
people who are documenting it and diving into that. I
really like to go to places where it's you know,
there's clear megalithic ruins. The megalists are really intrigued me.
And the older the better, you know.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Yeah, for sure, it's like this place I don't know,
I can't pronounce, like it's like the bio blue as
GRL stone ruins, right, And that's Adam's Calendar's part of that.
But it's like this ten thousand square kilometers wow, like
one hundred and fifty kilometers long north to south and
(38:39):
about fifty east to west. The area is estimated to
have once been occupied by the Baco some of the people.
But that's a huge area and there's just these stone
ruins all over it.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yeah, I have to check that out.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
So, and it's one of those places that's not it's
like on the I wouldn't say it's desert, but it's
you know, it's like that air like kind of more
like a savannah type. So stuff is kind of preserved
because it's getting you know, it's not very humid. There's
just it's pretty cool. So anyway, it's a place that's
(39:17):
always hit me because I've heard about it. I have
a family that lived in South Africa and Botswana, so
they they're they were straight like Afrikaans.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Folks, and this was really interesting.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah, so I heard it from that when I was
young originally, So yeah, pretty neat and cool.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
You learn something new every day, right, new I was
we were talking before the stream and this is funny.
I mean funny. I kind of feel ashamed. And I
was hanging out with Hugh Newman from megal Limania over
in the UK and he was giving me crap for this,
but you know, I went over there. It did this
(40:04):
stone hinge equinox thing where you can walk all amongst it. Yeah,
and then he's like, hey, you got to come with
me tomorrow. We got to go down to Avebury and
I was like, okay, what's there. He's like, well, it's
like the world's largest stone circle. And I was like what.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I was like, I've never heard of it, and he's like,
what do you mean you've never heard of it? I'm
like I'm like, I don't know, man, I never UK
has not been a place that I've just like been
like I'm going to go check out all all this
ancient stuff and for whatever reason, you know what I mean, Yeah,
but there's so much stuff to see over there, actually.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
So much stuff. And I've always wanted to go to
Scotland and like gone through above the Hadrians Wall. I mean,
not that so much stuffed because nobody ever talks about
the Picks because we don't really know much about them, right,
But there's all kinds of ruins, yeah, things of them,
(40:59):
and it's like just don't know because they didn't, right,
they didn't, they didn't do any of that.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
And yeah, Scotland's beautiful. It's that's a beautiful trip. I
did it the year a couple of years ago. And
then Ireland's incredible. It's amazing. It's got New Grange and
Dolmens everywhere.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
And yeah, the Dolmens I did. The other thing that's
cool are those chalk like the chalk Pyramids or the
chalk mounds that they make out of chalk and not
in and that's more in England, right that you know,
I'm talking about them.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
The like effigies, the pictures and stuff all.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
That, but these are these are actual mounds that are
made with chalk. They like long barrow, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, I check that out recently on my trip.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Yeah, like Silbury Hill, which is in Avebury. Yeah, I'm
not far from Stonehenge, right, but yeah, all that's pretty
close to each other and it's covered with like uh sod,
but underneath it's all chalk, right, just like what are
(42:18):
we doing?
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Man?
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Is it like a lookout tower? What is it?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
What do we do?
Speaker 4 (42:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, the one I visited out there, it was on
a hill. Yeah, it was kind of like what is this?
And it's it's funny because I did. I didn't know
how I was supposed to get out there. There are
no clear markers, and I ended up driving my car
all the way up to it through a field and
(42:46):
then realized that that that you were supposed to like
park way off it was like a mile hike and
I just to it across farmland basically. Oh and I out.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
No, I don't think it was you that we were
talking to, but I feel like I was talking not
that long ago about a guy that we're all over
the place right now. But down in South America we're
talking about like the Inca, right, and or even you know,
just where they lived obviously is very mountainous, right, and
(43:25):
there's these little like lookout who where did I hear this?
I don't remember, but they somebody was looking at these
little lookout things that are like perched on like the
side of some of these mountains, like you've got like
Machu Pichu and and other things, but you've got these
little tiny like they literally like century spots where it
(43:48):
looks like they might have communicated with fire, like the
British are coming whatever, the Spanish are coming, and their
light and watch tower fires like Lord of the Rings
or something, right, and that they've got them dotted. There's
you can get up into one and you can see
something like one in every single direction. I can't remember
(44:11):
who was talking about that. I guess it wasn't you, though.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
There is an incredible country, just fascinating.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
We don't know anything about Peru. I mean, there's so
much that's hidden, all the all those cultures, buying culture,
all of it. It's so such a mystery. But yeah,
there's so much there, but yet it's such a mystery.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
So yeah, absolutely, it's perusic. I think only just begun
to reveal all of its secrets.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Yeah, the jungle, I mean, you get I could live
with light iron things like that. It's changed the game,
but it's still you still have to get there.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, it's that's that's that's an amazing country. It's just
like you know, and I look at Cusco kind of
like the roam of South America. It's just that's such
an amazing I love it there. I love that city.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
And you say you can live in Peru.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Oh yeah, I could live in Peru. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
Do you like kooi?
Speaker 2 (45:21):
It's okay, it's greasy.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
Folks don't know what kooi is. This guinea fit.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
We did a I did a tour there last year,
and our last dinner together, we did a big traditional
kooi meal and brought it. Everybody brought it out, and
a lot of the people were just like freaked out.
The girls were freaked out. Well what they did was
they brought out these cooked guinea pigs, but they put
(45:51):
little dresses and hats on them.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Oh my god, wow, that's amazing. You know.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
So obviously some of the the ladies on the tour
were like what the hell you know? They were like yeah,
crying and uh but everybody tried it. Kuy's it's good,
but it's not there's not a like a ton of
It's not like eating a chicken or something. There's not
a ton of meat on it. Like no, it's like
a squirrel. Yeah, it's really greasy.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Or fat little things.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Yeah, so it can be. You know, that's one of
those those I may have an iron stomach, but that's
one of those meals that can kind of upset your
stomach a little bit because the meat is just so greasy.
But yeah, it's fine. I don't typically unless it's like
for like what we did there and that on that
tour for Peru. It's like a you know, a kind
(46:47):
of a special thing or whatever.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
Yeah, potatoes coo and potatoes about what you got in
absolutely so kind of uh get towards like wrapping it
up a little bit. One of the things that I
love to do my last question usually to folks is
(47:13):
because the name of the podcast is broadcasting seeds, and
that's what we're all about, is planting seeds in people's minds,
right and watching them grow. And I always like to
give the guests an opportunity to plant some seeds.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yeah, it's funny because you know, talking with my writer today, Okay,
who's amazing. We do we co host a live stream
and on my channel weekly and I think right now,
(47:51):
I think, you know, moving forward, it's at least within
this community, I think that the most important thing is,
you know, this is a when you're when we were
talking about when we're talking about exploring history and looking
into all these ideas. I think all lines of thought
are reasonable, and I think it's important for people to
(48:14):
remember that just because you don't agree with something, or
you think that that line of thinking or research is
off base, it's still important for people to pursue those
paths independently. Like everything bears fruit if people if their
ultimate goal is that they're looking for truth. And so
I think moving forward and especially you know, into this
(48:38):
next year, as things continue to grow and grow, because
we're not ever going to run This is the cool
thing about this area of interest is we're never going
to run out of new stuff. There's always going to
be new stuff being discovered and new ideas being presented
in ways things change and shift in terms of our
understanding of the past. And I think it's really important
(49:01):
for people to to be supportive within the community, to
to get plugged in places because the things are getting
big enough that that that's one of those things that's
really important. And and the thing that keeps resonating with
me is community and collaboration. And so you know, understanding that,
(49:25):
you know, if you and I have different opinions on
aliens or cryptids or something, that's fine, where's our common ground? Right? Yeah,
And and and even insofar as you know, communicating or
working with people in academics, you know, in the academic
(49:46):
field of you know, making it easy for them to
start understanding that we are their target audience if they
want to grow and keep up and not have programs
and things shut down at universities the way they've been happening. Yeah,
there's there's they're gonna have to meet us in the
(50:08):
middle were we are their target target audience. But let's
do that with open arms, you know, in a way
that's you can I think the critique and accountability are
things that need to happen one hundred percent, but we
you know, we can do it in a in a
kind manner. And so the things that have been really
resonating for me and have always resonated me with me.
(50:30):
Was for starting all this, and really once I started
getting going, was wanting to inspire people. I shared a
bit about my story and I can't tell you how
good it feels. You can't. I can't put a price.
I was making way more money back then than I
am now, and I was miserable and I wake up
(50:52):
every day now and I'm grateful and I'm happy, and
I can't put a price tag on that. You couldn't.
I would never go act just to get those paychecks
to where I was before and give up what I
have now. And so I and one of the biggest
things that came from all of this of me doing
all this and wanting to inspire people to find that
(51:14):
for themselves as well and different things as that was
meeting people and really valuing people. And so I think
that that's where the community aspect really comes in and
connecting with people, because I do believe that, you know,
we talked a little bit about stuff like America and
looking at sites in America. I do believe there's more
(51:34):
to find, and I know I totally understand that not
everybody can go off and travel all around the world.
But there's plenty of things that people can do and
explore in their own backyards. I live in Austin, Texas,
and there's cart ruts here. There's multiple cart rut sites here,
and I know places like that all over the country.
So there's something near you that you could be involved in,
(51:57):
and you could go take a hike on a weekend
and take trues of and then share it with the community.
Get involved somewhere on social media or in your favor
and you know your favorite content creators, live streams and things,
and talk to people and connect or go to conferences
and connect with people in person. There's all sorts of
(52:20):
stuff that people can do. And by doing that, your ideas,
people's ideas and their theories and different things that they're
working on. They get to be bounced off of other
people's thoughts and ideas and hear new perspective, and that's
how we'll grow things even quicker. And that goes for
all different areas, not just megalists and stuff, which is
what I'm into, but every kind of branching alternative area
(52:47):
of interest. Right, So that would be if I was
going to plan a seed that would be it is
is uh, you know, be the thing that you want.
If if you want growth within the community, be that growth.
If you want friends within the community, go be a friend.
If you want to see things get worked one more
in this way, and don't be discouraged by numbers and
(53:09):
things on you know. I mean, if I let that
discourage me. When I started this, I'd quit years ago
because it took me almost five years just to get
up to any kind of semblance of probably longer than
that of of like is this happening? And so yeah, yeah,
I'm like what am I doing? Like, I'm just making
(53:31):
videos for nobody? Is what it felt like for half
a decade? Yeah and so.
Speaker 4 (53:38):
And then one day just yeah it clicks right, They like,
holy shit, here I am.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yeah, stick with it and contribute people, you know, I
think everybody has something valuable to share, whether it's their
opinion or like I said, going out for a hike
and taking pictures and sharing that.
Speaker 4 (53:55):
Yeah, what's what's the old adage that they attributed to God?
But it's not it's not him. I don't think I
thought I had them. Oh there it is. Be the
change you wish to see in the world.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
That's so good. Yeah, like so true, because what happens
is if you be that thing, you'll see that thing
reflected back to you. Yeap, you know.
Speaker 4 (54:22):
Absolutely. I want to be a podcaster and a filmmaker.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
There you go, and then you just start and then
just stick with.
Speaker 4 (54:31):
Just got to do it. Can't do it unless you
do it.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Can't do it unless you do it right. Sometimes it's
really simple. We're the ones that make it really hard.
Speaker 4 (54:39):
Yeah, getting our expectations.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
A lot of times, getting our own way. Yeah sure, yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:45):
Man, tell people where they can find you again.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
Yeah, absolutely. YouTube channels Wandering Wolf that's with an a
A lot of people spell it wo, but it's wa wandering,
wandering around, wandering and then uh, my website's Wandering Wolf
Productions dot com on and again all my socials are
(55:10):
w Wolf p R O D. I do tours so
if people want to join me on that. I've got
a book coming out, should be out before the end
of the year, and started doing conferences for our con
We have a conference going on in Scottsdale December fifth
through the seventh Quest for Ancient Civilizations. It's going to
(55:33):
be a banger. We just announced this week. We've got
Randall Carson coming on. He just joined us. Randall Carson
will be be there with us and uh a whole,
a whole amazing lineup and I'll be speaking there December. Yeah,
be nice and I guess I don't know.
Speaker 4 (55:56):
I love I love Scottsdale.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
So yeah, yeah, so yeah you can. You can find
all my stuff. You can watch my footage on Ancient
Aliens and different TV shows. Also, uh, do a lot
of your own footage for stuff.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
Awesome. Yeah, So thank you for coming on, man, man,
thank you for having me, absolutely and we'll do it
against him.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
Love it, love it.
Speaker 5 (56:22):
Footsteps from me.
Speaker 4 (56:28):
We wove this road.
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Be for the history of the.
Speaker 6 (56:58):
Truth theory, the names candle, falling, kingsy, every days, gone
forgotten lords and cause we hind agent those we.
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Rise weak crime.
Speaker 6 (57:14):
We ask who built this world of.
Speaker 5 (57:18):
I don't believe.
Speaker 6 (57:20):
What they say showing the childs get still.
Speaker 5 (57:24):
Watch the Last Cake.
Speaker 6 (57:27):
Where they say set as We're a giant party every
secret day, choose what's the very at Los civilization.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
We're bringing back.
Speaker 3 (57:44):
No more hesitation.
Speaker 5 (57:46):
We are.
Speaker 6 (57:52):
Your nerve from the battle ground.
Speaker 5 (58:02):
But that would say Chris Soil.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
We found strange symbols in the desert sand. Whose blood
soaked this sanction land?
Speaker 5 (58:10):
So ours falling?
Speaker 2 (58:11):
Let's just rise we see truth.
Speaker 6 (58:13):
Behind their sides by?
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slight dj by?
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We won't let them know. Feed out wearing no walls, start.
Speaker 6 (58:27):
Saying, Rida Rica? Where taking set off in the nowhere?
Speaker 4 (58:35):
Where the aliens?
Speaker 5 (58:36):
From there?
Speaker 2 (58:37):
Everything?
Speaker 6 (58:39):
Your susay?
Speaker 5 (58:40):
What's the very? Are true?
Speaker 2 (58:42):
B civilization?
Speaker 6 (58:44):
Shots we're bringing back down? No more hesitation? Shot?
Speaker 5 (58:50):
Were we our father?
Speaker 2 (58:57):
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Speaker 5 (58:58):
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Speaker 6 (59:00):
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clock when the truth trust here?
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Raget down that job.
Speaker 6 (59:19):
We'll chose some shadows and loose, but tonight we rather
gain every mystery from man. Was a master's half a
man last civilization.
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No mod inn.
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This is revelation. We were born missus. We'll never
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