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all right. On the twenty one CD podcast, Who are
You and what do you do?

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Well, I'm John from the twenty one CD podcast. Obviously
I do all that kind of stuff over there. I'm
pretty much the one man team right now. So I
run that show, and I think that probably I guess
who I am is.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
That show is pretty much my whole identity, but I
think my mission, what I really like try to be,
what I try to do, is somebody who somebody who
looks at the timeline of humanity a little bit differently
than we've been told. You know, growing up, we're always
told all this stuff about evolution and how it might

(02:48):
might have formed us, or you know, what God is
or what God isn't and wish God to choose, all
that kind of stuff. And I've just slowly started realizing
over time that you know, I don't. I don't think
we know the whole story. So I guess what I
do is is I try to I try to find
different ways of looking at the story that we have

(03:11):
in different lights that make more sense than the story
we've been given. And that's kind of what I try
to do on the show and most of what I
investigate my free time as well.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, so how long have you had the show?

Speaker 4 (03:27):
The show is about two years old, but I did
take six months off, and so I guess it's really
like a year and.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
A half, right, what So, the one question I really
like to start out with is what even headed you
down this into this?

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Like?

Speaker 2 (03:46):
What's your gateway to this whole crazy world of high strangeness.
And I mean it's such a broad thing, right but
yet all connected to an extent, So what what was
your gateway to all this.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Oh man, Well, I've always I've always believed in things.
My dad is a he's very spiritual, and he believed
in these things. And so, like I remember, even before
I was allowed on the internet, he would be downloading
websites for me to view on my computer of you know,

(04:27):
like bigfoot investigations and stuff like that. And so from
a very young age, I was listening to, you know,
the screams in the woods and seeing the evidence, and
I just always kind of believed that there was something
else out there. And then as I started getting older,
you know, my life changed a little bit. My my

(04:50):
dad ended up happening upon this. It was a cult
that basically ended up shaping more of how I viewed
reac and I ended up spending a lot of times
in the woods in those days because we were way
way out in the wilderness of Missouri. I'll call it

(05:11):
the wilderness because it was redneck territory. So it was
just way out there, and so I was always out
in the woods and had a lot of strange experiences
out in the woods. Out there. I was younger, preteen,
but old enough to sort of see science. I guess
you could say and that only strengthened my belief in

(05:36):
the supernatural. And then as I got into my twenties,
I started having real experiences that felt like, now it's
beyond I'm no longer waiting for my first experience. I'm
no longer the guy who just believes but has yet

(05:56):
to see evidence. I believe that I've actually seen evidence.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
And so.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
After all of that, you know, now I just can't
forget it. So now I'm onto researching the different things like, well, okay,
if these, if these beings exist. So if I'm going
to be so bold as to say that I had
a when to go experience in the woods in Wisconsin
next to a burial mound, if I'm going to actually

(06:22):
say that out loud, then I have to kind of like,
you know what I mean, Like you have to like
why do you think you had that experience? Why was
it this? Why was it that? Why was it here?
And why do you think you had it of all people?
And so those are the things that I've been researching
more and more, and I'm in the realm of now,

(06:46):
like the Watchers and the Book of Enoch and the
Nephilum and the you know, Samyaza and Azazel and the
the the powers that they brought to humanity, and the
beginning and how well not the beginning, but the beginning
of their venture on Earth, and how they you know,

(07:06):
all the the manipulation of genes and genetic stuff and
all that. I've sort of moved beyond the I want
another Bigfoot experience or I want another experience, and I'm
more into the realm of what is happening, like these
things are here. Hollywood is how Hollywood worships these creatures

(07:29):
and and and the I mean, look at all the
mo the horror movies and everything involving cryptids. I mean,
we worship these monsters, but we don't consider it worship.
But we love seeing them on film, we love reading stories.
And podcasts like this are proof too that we are
all in love with this side of reality that we

(07:50):
don't understand. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that,
let me be clear. I just think that there's more answers,
and they're much deeper than hidden speed seas in the woods.
I think there's something much deeper here. And so that's
kind of my realm of research these days. And I
spent a lot of time out of the country doing it.

(08:12):
I spent a lot of time. I just got back
from Iceland not too long ago, where I was looking
for elves. I was actually looking for the hole the folk,
the hidden people there, which is sort of a species
in between elf and man. And it was my second
time there, so I did. I did a couple of
weeks there where I was looking for evidence again. And

(08:34):
I just returned from Columbia and South America doing some
stuff down there that was a little bit different. And
that's that's where this happened. And you know, I I
go all over the country as well. Here in the
next few weeks, we're gonna me and my brother are
going to end up in the north Woods up here
in Wisconsin. I don't know if you ever made it

(08:57):
that far north, but it's it's basically, it's it's way
the heck up there. Yeah. Yeah, and we're gonna be
talking to some of the indigenous tribes there because there's
there's still reservations out here, obviously you know that.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, we have them here too. It is crazy.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
I mean, a lot of your your reservations, a lot
of the tribes that were on your reservations were actually
forced up into our area. That's that's where all our
rounds came from. All our burial mounds in Wisconsin, most
of them came from the dwellers in Illinois. So it's
it's really you know, it's a lot of that kind
of stuff too, where it's I like to look at

(09:37):
at those people for for history more than I like
to look at history books. So the closer I can
get to indigenous tribes, which is a lot of what
I'm doing in South America these days, the better in
my opinion. And it occurred to me because I was
driving around about a month ago. I got lost because

(09:58):
I put in my GPS on my on my car,
and that's your first mistake. Never trust your cars onboard GPS,
and I put on there. You know, I wanted to
get to Michigan. This place in Michigan, I was trying
to go to Menominee, and uh, I ended up in
the middle of the Menominee Reservation instead. And the Menominee

(10:18):
Reservation is in the middle of nowhere. It's just forest.
And what my GPS did, instead of bringing me to
the town of Menominy, it brought me to the reservation
of Menominy. And it's put me smack dab in the
middle of it. No house is to be seen. I
got bad feelings, but I figured this would be a
great place to make a movie. So that's what we're

(10:39):
gonna end up doing here in the next few weeks,
trying to see if there's any cryptids out there and
and talking to some of the natives about it. Yeah,
that's kind of my m man. That's that's what I really,
I really pursue. And at the same time, you know,
I take the battle to the forces of evil, whoever
they may be, whether you believe they're you know, my

(11:00):
episode coming out on Wednesday is coincidentally all about this.
But I'm a good attempt to redefine Satan because I
just think that Satan, Satan's a little bit like our
origin story, where we've sort of just taken him for
what it is, taken him for what we've been given
the description of him is. And I just don't think

(11:23):
Satan is what we've been led to believe, based on
my research and religion the Catholic Church, how he was created,
what his sort of description is, and how his description
is actually nothing like that in the Bible. All that
kind of stuff. So that's kind of my thing. I
try to expose it all.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
I'm headed down the same road, especially with the the
biblical stuff. I've kind of veered off of the well
because the cryptid stuff took me to the biblical stuff.
And yeah, it's a whole rabbit hole, it is. And
I agree with the whole Satan thing. It it's not

(12:07):
even a name, it's a job title, so.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Right, it's a job title. The accuser or the uh
he's the one who, in my opinion, Satan's task, and
of course he's he's not a good guy. But Satan's
task is to expose the shortcomings of man and laugh
at them, to ridicule God. But in a way, he's

(12:32):
almost like an attorney. He's almost like somebody who just
comes out and judges prosecutor exactly, look what you're doing,
look what you've done. And if you haven't done it yet,
he'll convince you to do it, and then you'll do it,
and then he'll say, look what you've done. But the
interesting thing is that Samyaza and Azazel, the two hundred
that came down, they are the ones that actually changed humanity.

(12:56):
They are the ones who actually gave us weapons and
makeup and mirrors and sigils and all that kind of stuff.
Those are the angels that you really have to look
at and consider to be the real forces of evil,
the ones that are chained, you know, that that have
been captured, and that all are also.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
In there's a reason they're in the pit exactly.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
The reason that, yes, exactly, they're held in this suspense
period for the final judgment. But the in my opinion,
the root of all evil actually comes from Semyaza, not
so much Satan and.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Well and I would agree. I don't want to cut
you off, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's it's the same
kind of thing as I and I've been saying this to,
you know, on other shows and with friends of mine,
is that we don't know the actual name of the enemy.
We we know characters of you know, multiple folks, but
like Lucifer again is just a made up Latin word

(13:57):
that it's not made up, but it's a it's a
Latin translation of you know, light bringer or shining one. Right,
And at the end of the day, Lucifer is not
the name that we need to know, and neither is Satan,
because Satan and whoever the enemy is or like the

(14:17):
leader of the enemy is not. I feel like maybe
we do know the name, we just don't know who
the person is or that entity.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
Is, right.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
But I would say, because the Bible does talk about
Satan's little season and Satan being released from the pit, well,
then it makes sense it's somebody that's in the pit, right,
So why wouldn't it be like Semyaza.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Well, and we know that Samyaza is in a pit somewhere,
we know that exactly, you know, so we know that
he's beneath the ground somewhere, whether it's a mountain or
a desert or wherever. We're not exactly sure. Obviously, you know,
Hillary Clinton would have found a way to find him
if we knew. Like, it's it's kind of like.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
When somewhere, I mean, wasn't she looking for like feels
above during the Afghan War or something like the uh, well,
the resurrection Chamber of Gish.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yeah that's what. Yeah, you're right. Yeahs So like it's
it's you know, like it's just there's a reason we
don't know. But interestingly enough, you mentioned the names, and
Semiyasa is one of the only angels allegedly according to
these ancient texts, that knows the name of God, and

(15:33):
that is why he is the ultimate sort of evil,
is because he has been entrusted with the name of God.
And the concept is that we can't handle the name
of God as humans. If we knew the name of God,
we would literally explode into a billion pieces. And so
and maybe the planet would like who knows what would

(15:56):
happen just by the utterance of his name, and and
Samyaza allegedly does. And so that that gives me this
this concept, this idea that names are more powerful than
we give them credit for. And the very utterance of

(16:17):
certain names is witchcraft. The very, especially in rhythms, tones, whatever,
it's it's very. It gives a whole different perspective to
what witchcraft is, what magic is, because we don't want
to believe in magic. We don't want to believe in
that kind of stuff. It can't possibly be true. That's
this kind of stuff we put in Disney movies. My

(16:38):
little you know whatever, My my little cousin watches that
and it's it and goes around and plays Harry Potter
in the woods like that's that's what we believe magic is.
Because we've been desensitized to it. But magic is actually real,
and I've seen it. I've seen things I can't explain,
done by my medicine men and women, and done by

(16:58):
indigenous people, and and done by non indigenous people, just
done by people who dabble, because people dabble, and there's
some very When you see some of that stuff, your
concept of reality can't stay the same. And and I
believe that when all especially these pop stars like Lady Gaga,

(17:24):
some of these other ones that I just can't think
of off the top of my head that I have pinned,
but you know, ah, her little witch Idol that she's
always idolizing, Jokovic or whatever her name is. All those
people they actually say names. They're not just out there

(17:48):
dancing and making music. They're saying names, and they're doing
actual spells. And that's not just for entertainment. And so
I look at that evil and I see, you know,
as soon as we start learning some of these names,
which I believe is part of the hidden knowledge that
will come, and we've already gotten all of this, this knowledge.

(18:11):
We weren't supposed to get swords and knives and daggers
and makeup and mirrors. And I'm not saying that you
can't do any of these things or have any of
these things, but it's written that this is stuff that
we weren't supposed to have all at once, and yet
we did. And I believe that now the mission is

(18:32):
we have to learn the names. Once we start learning
the names, once we start being able to put our
fingers on them, the false gods, you're going to start
showing up again. Yeah, Yeah, the ones that are tangible
and that we can actually see and that can smite us.
You know, it's it's a it's a mandarier world than
we give it credit for.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
We have a we have a historical figure that you
know that's in the Bible, plus other occult stories and
extrachanical canonical books and all kinds of tales and across
the eons about somebody who use those names very effectively,

(19:15):
and that's Solomon. And a lot of the power is
in the name, right, I mean, just look at when
you see exorcisms or things like that. They always need
the name. They don't need it, but it helps, right.

(19:36):
I also know there's some stuff and you know, I
get a little gets a little froggy with deliverance ministry.
But either way, you've got all these occult type organizations
that hold these name like lists of names, and they
hold them right here and they their secret right. Why

(19:58):
why is that? Because it holds power?

Speaker 6 (20:01):
Right?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
So I absolutely agree with you. Where where did the
name twenty one? And most people, I think a lot
of people might not know what twenty one CD is?
Do you want to talk about that? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (20:16):
So twenty one CD stands for twenty first century Dystopian.
And the reason that I chose that name is because
before I even started my show, it was it was
it was an identity that I created. I'm a filmmaker,
so I made movies under that title. And I started

(20:41):
realizing that, you know, there's so much more to being
a twenty first century dystopian that makes sense than being
this twenty first century utopian that they would like us
to believe we are. And I started, you know, really
digging into what a dystopia actually is, and I came

(21:02):
to the conclusion that we're not living in this utopia
that all of our politicians and leaders want us to
believe we are, or at least we're only a couple
of years. It's always we're a couple of years away.
We're a couple of years away from this utopia. And
it got me thinking, you know, we're in a constant
state of censorship, We're in a constant state of being monitored.

(21:28):
Monitorization is at an all time now. This is being
monitored right now because of this riverside thing that we're
doing here. I'm probably going to get an AD for something.
You know, Like we're constantly being monitored, whether it's by corporations, politicians,
the FEDS, or people like me. So like there's somebody
always watching. And I just feel like twenty first century dystopian.

(21:57):
It really brings the sci fi to you, and it's
like you are living in a science fiction novel. We
are in nineteen eighty four right now. Does nobody realize that,
like Blade Runner is literally only a few years away.
We I mean, Tesla just out unrolled. They're robot that
Musk wants to have in every household by twenty thirty

(22:19):
or whatever it is, and you know, we've got they.
I think it was Yamaha invented a horse that you
could ride through the countryside. It's a robotic horse, and
they're like, yeah, it's like basically the new ATV and
it's just it's crazy that people don't understand, you know,
we have the microplastics and how in about thirty years

(22:41):
they're anticipating the human body to no longer be able
to have its own children. And that's why there's such
a huge push right now for artificial berths based on
you know, DNA and stem cells all that kind of stuff.
They basically construct a baby for you in an artificial pot.
You can get this done. It's one of the reasons
that Ukraine War is as crazy as it is is

(23:01):
because that is the number one baby factory in the world,
and so it's all underground. And and you're our friend
Milania Djobovich, I can't I don't think that's her name.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
What is her name, but it's something like that though
she's you.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Know, that's why she's an ambassador for Ukraine, even though
she's Serbian and she's she's in charge of all that
kind of stuff. Like it's it's, uh, yeah, let me
look her up real quick.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, that's what I'm doing.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
I mean her arts Like you're like, wait, what, we're
gonna find this quick.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
They don't want us to find it because it's my
stuff is shutting down. Oh man, just.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Look up Lady Gaga Spirit Cooking and you'll find her. Yeah,
La Marina Abramovich. Yeah yeah, that that witch. And that's
what she is. She's a witch. And it's funny that
it's it's funny that I can't remember her name. Maybe
that's part of the curse. But I've done so much

(24:15):
research on this woman. I've seen every single art fixture
that she's ever created, dating back to when she was
a child. I've seen everything that she's done, and it
it just she's really the one that illuminated to me
that the the upper class is is a you know,
leave ditty aside and Epstein and all that kind of stuff. Man,

(24:39):
you've got a dream adrinachrome. You've got you know, frazzled.
I can't say that you actually will get from that,
but you've got all that stuff and it We're living
in a world that runs off of cannibalism, and cannibalism
is the reason that the Nephilum had to be smited

(25:00):
with the flood. In my opinion, they they began to
engage in such widespread consumption of humans themselves. The humans
began to follow suit. These were demi gods and gods,
These were Hercules and Medusa. These were, you know, these
beings that were on the earth with humanity, waging war

(25:22):
for them, beside them, helping them build structures and teaching
them the ways of their fathers, the fallen ones, and
so of course they engaged in cannibalism. Of course, they
engage in all of that kind of stuff. And I
think that somewhere along the line it became pretty mainstream
that the blood of the innocent will give you certain

(25:44):
qualities under the right you know, the right situation.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
So what was the thing about McDonald s lately.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Yeah, there was something about how like their burgers are
like made of human flesh.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah yeah, yeah, right, uh, rumors McDonald's use as human
meat in their food says. These rumors have been debunked
as false, but you know, I mean.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
I've also seen some stuff that the McDonald's logo has
literally been found in grimoires and whatnot as.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
As something similar. Yeah right, I just saw that too.
So it's one of those things like once you start
heading down these rabbit holes, man, you can't oh, and
they'll like intersect it underground too, and you're just like man,
and it starts to make your head explode.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Dude. I loved myself in my in my office for
days sometimes because I just can't get enough of it.
And when you start going to the and in that way,
you have to be really careful. Some people have told
me that they're like, you know, you have to be
careful because doing too much research could also venture you
into the realm of your more being captured. You're more being,
you're being taken in versus because somewhere in the Bible,

(27:02):
and I'm not the best I have a horrible memory,
but somewhere in the Bible, it talks about how you
shouldn't be focusing on these things too much. You shouldn't
be investigating these things too much because they're not the point.
They're a distraction, and so more, more or less, what
I try to do is focus on humanity's reaction to

(27:27):
these things more than these things. I went to college
for sociology, so I'm very interested in the way that
society is impact by things.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Your problem, yeah, it is hug whole problem. No, I'm
the same way. I like my favorite courses that I
took were always sociology. It's fascinating and sociology, psychology and
anthropology like oh my god, Like I definitely went into

(27:59):
the wraw o thing, but would probably be like straight
jacket if I had gone the other route.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
I mean, if you you have to know when to
cut yourself off at a certain point, we do because.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
The pursuit of knowledge is basically what the what the
Bible says is sometimes you have to tread lightly and
and you've got to cut yourself off plus protect yourself.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
Right.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, I've definitely become a firm believer in prayer and
protecting myself from some of the stuff because I've had
some crazy experiences with you know, entities, and you know,

(28:47):
I've talked about them on other podcasts and my audience
knows that ad nauseum. So I'm not going to get
into you know that, but it it uh, you know, scary,
scary shit that really just makes you change your whole reality.
And if you if you just ignore it, like I don't,

(29:08):
I think it just totally messages you up. So I
understand what you're talking about for sure.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Yeah, And and once you do get a visual, it's
game over for you. Like you're just gonna I guess
not really. There are those people who have their sightings
and then they just keep it under wraps for their
whole lives, and then somebody find out that, you know,
grandpa saw a big foot in the woods and he
never told anybody. And oftentimes those are the best stories.
But it's you know, it's it's yeah. Lately, I've I've

(29:40):
been trying to limit myself a little bit because, especially
once you start getting on the dark Web, there's just
there's just some stuff there that and I mean you've
seen everything, Yeah, you kind of get it. You've you've
been all over.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, there's so much stuff you can't unsee and uh yeah,
frankly we're not meant to see it. Really, I don't know.
I don't know, I don't know the answers, right.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
Don't say I don't say you're sorry or anything. But
on on the dark Web is where I first Uh
it's where I found out that my mom was murdered,
and uh, I know that's a big bombshell, but it's
that is also part of the reason that I can't
stop my research is because the things that I uncover

(30:31):
oftentimes relate so deeply to my personal life that it
does feel like there is some kind of something speaking
to me through the screen, and I don't know if
it is or not, but I was I was digging around,
and I was looking at uh, I was looking at
nothing related and yeah, I you know, her situation came

(30:54):
up and and sure enough I was just then filled
with and this had this happened at the beginning of
this year. This is relatively new, and I haven't talked
about this on my show either, but this is like,
you know, I saw what I saw, and it was horrible,
and I had to then go on this whole wild

(31:16):
goose chase, which ended up bringing the cops to my
doorstep a lot of times, and oftentimes when I wasn't
expecting them. And it's part of the reason that I
ran away to Colombia is because it was getting to
the point where after I found that and I started
doing my own digging, it turned out that a lot

(31:37):
of people were very interested in that. And I don't
know if it's because I'm the Sun or what, but
as you reach out to agencies and stuff like that,
and you're like, hey, it's me, because what a lot
of people don't realize is that my entire life, I've

(31:58):
had to use a moment. I've had to use various
different aliases and names because of the way that my
dad chose to raise his family, and because of that,
a lot of crimes were committed and happened around this
group that we were involved with, and this whole situation

(32:21):
blew up to the point where he is hunted to
this day because of things that are in his past
and as a byproduct me being his firstborn son and
the only biological son of my mother, It's just caused
a lot of issues in my life. And when I

(32:45):
start pointing fingers, asking questions and making accusations, a lot
of stuff starts happening. So, yeah, the dark web, man,
I don't recommend it, no exactly.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
I mean, like my kids, I have four daughters, and
they're always like, well, what do you what do you
mean when you say the dark web? And I'm like,
I'm just gonna leave it there. I'm not I'm not
even gonna you know, it's a good thing, put it out. Yeah, right, So, man,
one of these things that I'm super interested about because

(33:18):
I've never met another person that I know of that
has had a when to go experience. So can you
talk about that a little bit.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Yeah, and let me clarify one thing. This the when
to go is like an assumption because by by all
accounts it is it appears that you can't really have
a when to go encounter. You know, through all the
research that I've done in everything, it appears that there's

(33:52):
only ever been one person that maybe escaped a whin
to go encounter and he ended up killing and cannibalized
his entire family. And that's where the whend to go
psychosis diagnosis, which is legit by the way, it comes, right,
that's where it came.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
I don't think a lot of people know that that so.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
And that's and that's crazy, right, because that's one more
way that you can kind of be like, well, okay,
so is this a way that they're trying to hide something?

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Like right?

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Like, so, there's an actual condition that somebody can get,
and it's a mental condition where you can go through
a temporary psychosis that may become permanent where it forces you,
even if you're not hungry, even if you have an
alternative food supply, to cannibalize people, and it puts you
under such a psychosis that you will do it to

(34:42):
your own family. That is bizarre and it's rare allegedly,
but if you look at what's going on in Africa,
there's a lot of strange cannibalism for witchcraft going on
over there. It's a huge problem. There's actually a new
drug that's coming out that is so deadly and it's
made from the bones of humans. And I just saw

(35:04):
it on the news a couple of days ago, so
I haven't dug into it yet, but it's coming out
of like Kenya. And you know, when you look at
their body factories that they have there where they will
keep live people just so they can farm them for
their parts and whatnot, it's just like, you know, it
makes you look at the Wind to Go a little
bit different. So what I believe the Wind to Go

(35:26):
is is a demon, and I believe that it's a
demon that is able to essentially somehow create itself into
something tangible. And I used to believe that demons couldn't
kill humans, but I do think they can kill humans now,

(35:46):
and that's kind of like a scary, scary change in
my perception of demons. But because I used to believe that,
you know, when we were told we wouldn't be given
anything that we couldn't overcome, or we wouldn't be given
any temptation that we couldn't handle. I used to think
that meant, well, Okay, demons can't touch me, all I

(36:07):
had to do is have faith. That's not that's not true.
I mean, we see people being killed by evil all
the time, and that, in my opinion, is demonic activities,
especially these Christians that are being beheaded in China and
all these other places. And it's like that is the
effect of demons, and whether or not it's in a

(36:30):
monster form or a human form doesn't really matter to me.
So but when I said that I had a when
to Go experience, and I got on Tony Merkle's show
and had the episode When to Go Woods and all that,
it kind of started as like we didn't really know
what it was, so we called it a when to Go.
And now, in my opinion, I think it was more
of a skin walker type scenario because I've gone back

(36:54):
and I've looked at the area. But what ended up
happening was I was filming a movie, me and two
of my brothers and one of our friends, and we
were out in the forest on my parents' land, where
it's on the Fox River. It's sort of a sloping
forested river bank because the Fox River actually used to

(37:16):
be freaking massive, and so the banks are still there
from hundreds of years ago when they cut through the
earth without any prevention from all these locks and dams
that are on the Fox River now. And so we're
sort of on this forested ancient river bank and we're

(37:37):
filming this sci fi movie. We've built this we called
it the Tabernacle, and it's this giant fortress of sticks
and logs, and we built it out there. We had
a fire in there, and we could you could fit
four full grown men in it, and you know, it
was sort of the set for this film. And we

(37:57):
had been filming for about a week five day or so.
And on our last night of filming, I was I
lived in Milwaukee at the time, which is about two
hours from where this took place. I was, me and
one of my other brothers. We were going to go
to Milwaukee back home, and everybody else's the film was
gonna be wrapped up, and so we were all sitting

(38:20):
around the fire at night, and we've all grown up
in the woods, our entire lives. We don't just bring flashlights.
I know that sounds crazy, but we're the type that
aren't running around in the woods with guns and flashlights
all the time. Everybody thinks that's crazy, but I know
there's nothing out there that can kill me, so I
don't need to carry a gun. And it's also I

(38:43):
know these woods like the back of my hands, so
I don't feel like I need a flashlight. And you know,
if I do, it's certainly nothing that my cell phone
can't handle for me. So you know, like maybe I
drop something and I can just use my phone, so
I don't need a whole flat On this night, it
turned out we did need a flashlight, of course, because

(39:06):
as we're just kind of chilling around the fire, we
started hearing this like walking off and away closer to
the river, further down the bank, and it's walking through
the leaves because it's still on the forest part of
the this this area, and it's it sounds like it's

(39:26):
too it sounds like it's it's walking on two feet,
like it doesn't sound like this is some deer trapesing
through the underbrush, but it's big enough that we can
hear it. And we grew up in the country, so
we're not city kids who came out here, and we're
just like, oh, I wonder what it could possibly be. Like. No,

(39:46):
we know that there's only so many different types of
animals here. There's no bear in this part. If there are,
it's very few and far in between. The wolves are
further north. It would be very shocking to have a
wolf down here. The big cats are further north. And
so the biggest thing that this could possibly be is
a deer, and the second biggest is like a coyote.

(40:08):
The third biggest would be just the fattest raccoon. So
we're like going through all of this in our minds
and it becomes obvious that this thing is walking on
two feet. So me and my brother we go outside
away from the fire. So the fire is now behind us,
which would mean that we are illuminated by it because

(40:30):
this thing is on the other side of us. And
we're looking around and I might miss a couple of
details here, but we're looking around and we see we
see like eyeshine down where we're hearing this sound come from,
and there are massive eyes like I'm talking about like

(40:52):
like this big eyes, like bigger than human eyes, wide
and they're not blinking at all. They're forward facing, which
is indicative of predators. They are white, they're not illuminated,
but they are reflective. And we see this thing and

(41:13):
it's very low on the ground and it's almost like
as if you were to lay in the prone in
the push up position and sort of tilt your head
up so that you could look up while being in
a push up position. And this thing, I mean, it's

(41:35):
six inches off the ground, these eyes. And so we're like, okay,
so it's not a big animal. This has to be
the fattest raccoon or something like that. We'll go ahead
and we'll run with that. And so we just start
throwing sticks and we just start yelling. I've got a
shovel because we were digging out the tabernacle a little
bit for the fire, and so I take a stick,

(41:57):
I start banging on the shovel, and my brother takes
out his cell phone and is trying to like see
it with the light on his cell phone. And as
we turn because my other brother and my friend are
coming out now because they're like, oh, there is something

(42:20):
out here, so they're going to come out too, and
we're going to see what the heck is going on?
So that's four full grown dudes here, and like we're
ready to go, and at that moment that they come out,
we kind of turn to like look at them, and
as my brother takes his light off of the creature

(42:46):
for a split second, we lose sight of it. Obviously
the eyeshine isn't there anymore. We turn back the light
and the eyes have now ascended. They're like six and
a half feet in the air, but they're not in
a tree. And so now we are like really freaked
out because now we're back to think if this has

(43:09):
to be some kind of deer. There's like, how could
it be that big? Like how could it be that tall?
How could it be low? And then go up? Maybe
the head was down and then it turned up right,
But deer don't have front facing eyes. They're like horses.
Their eyes are on the side, and so we weren't
able to really define what it was. I, for some reason,

(43:31):
am convinced that this is this is some sort of herbivore.
So I go, I start walking through the dark like
an idiot. I just go down the hill just a
little ways, I maybe like three yards closer, so that
I can really take this stick that I've got in
my hands and hit this thing with it. I'm a
pretty good throw so like I go down there, I

(43:52):
hurl this thing my other brother. I don't hear it
because my other brother says, dude, it is staring right
at you. Back up here. I turn, I run up
the hill, and as he does that, it hisses. It
makes a hissing sound, and I don't know what that
could possibly be. But as it makes the hissing sound,

(44:14):
it disappears. So that was our experience. We flee up
to the house, and that's where the story really gets
weird because you can say, you know, like, well, it
could have been anything, and that's true. I'm not trying
to convince anybody that it was a when to go
or a skin walker. I don't know what it was.

(44:35):
But when we got back to the house it turned
spiritual because we we go up there and my parents
have this this house where it has like a finished
basement and there isn't a backyard. You just go out
the back door and it's and you just you're in
the woods, and so we go that's the door we

(44:57):
always used, and so we went in there and you know,
we we go to sleep for the night. We tried to.
We just stayed up all night long, but we ended up.
Me and my brother A j the one that that
saw the eye shine with me. We went up stairs

(45:18):
to eat breakfast. We were staying there for you know,
this was the day we were going to go home
to Milwaukee, and we're gonna have breakfast with my dad,
my mom, and one of my other younger brothers there.
I've got a lot of siblings and uh that's the
whole cult thing. But but the uh, the uh. As
we're sitting down for breakfast, my dad said, and my

(45:42):
dad he believes in the Nephilum. He's I would call
my dad a bit of a prophet if I was
to call him anything. He's a philosopher of the biblical realm.
He's he you know, he believes that he's got the
calendar down and he thinks, you know, he knows the
rough idea of Christ, which all that kind of stuff.
He's like a big guy in that he's on these

(46:04):
online forums under names that you won't even tell me.
And and he he says, you know, what happened last night?
And I was like, what do you mean, because I
hadn't told him anything, and so I was like, what
do you mean, and he's just like, well, I heard
I heard a lot of commotion last night in the
middle of the night. So I wanted, you know, like,

(46:24):
what the hell happened? And so we tell him the
whole story that I just told you, and he says
to me, huh, you know, about a week ago, I
went downstairs and in the middle of the night because
I thought I heard something, and that back door was

(46:47):
wide open on its hinges. And that's very strange because
my only brother that lives with my parents is a
young boy and he's deeply afraid of the dark, and
he's also deeply afraid of the forest. He wasn't raised
in the same way that that I was. I mean,

(47:08):
we're twenty years apart in age, so it's not the
same upbringing. And and he would never use that door,
is the long story short. It's always dead bolted twice,
there's multiple locks on the door, and so my dad
told me, he's like, I never want you guys using

(47:29):
that door again, because there's something strange about that about that,
and he actually permanently then locked that door and Benjamin,
my other brother, the younger one. He says, you know,
I was laying in my bed and I saw something

(47:49):
through my window. And we're like, what are you talking about?
And he was just like, well, I don't know what
it was, but it was this giant black figure and
it just looked like a huge shadow and it walked
across my window and and that was the only time

(48:10):
he allegedly saw it. So we're here in all this,
we're putting the pieces together, and then out of nowhere,
this is all happening at the same time. So it's
like it's it's strange, it's like a movie, and like,
this is all happening. And my mom, who doesn't believe
in any of this stuff, she does she believes in,
you know, my stepmom. She believes in in in God

(48:34):
and Jesus Christ and do the best you can do
and all that kind of stuff. Be the best person
you possibly can and you know, love the children and
all that kind of stuff. And that's that's really it.
And you know, for the most part, she's a wholesome lady.
And she says, what are you guys talking about? And

(48:56):
you know, so now we tell her the story. And
because she's she runs her own business taking care of
kids and stuff, and so she was just kind of
half listening, and she said, this is all very strange
because just this morning, my friend texted me and she
said that she had a message for us, and that

(49:17):
she didn't know why she had this message, but she
was just sitting there and she felt compelled to text me,
I'm praying for you about the situation in the backyard.
And that's verbatim. Wow, verbatim, she said. And I was like,
what are you talking about? Yeah, So dude, I was like,

(49:41):
I was like, Okay, that's weird. My dad's freaking out,
you know, and like, well, because my mom doesn't talk
about this stuff. If you talk about this stuff in
front of her, she tries to go to the other room. Yeah,
because it's scary for her and she doesn't like believing
in that kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 (49:58):
And so.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
I asked her to clarify, and I was like, well,
what is Can you ask her like what that means?
And she did and then she said, you know, she
said she doesn't know. She just said that she was
she felt compelled to tell me that she's praying for
us regarding the backyard. Wow, And that's all she knew.

(50:21):
So now we're really curious. Now it's more of because
up until this point we were ready to just say
that this is just something in the woods that we
can't explain. We didn't immediately go to cryptids, and so
but now we're starting to feel like this is this
is a little bit deeper. We go down. I go
down with my other brother, and there are stick fixtures

(50:47):
in the woods like they say that sasquatch makes right,
and there are these exes like this in between these trees,
and they're exactly where we saw the eyes. But the
thing is, I had been running out in and out
of that whole area for five days filming a movie,
and so I would have seen that, and I would

(51:08):
have caught it on camera if it was actually there,
because I had filmed scenes that in that whole location, right,
and that wasn't there. And so now it was there,
and I've got pictures of all this, and I don't know.
I couldn't explain it. And so since then, you know,

(51:31):
and it skyrocketed on the charts of on Tony Merkle's
show and all that kind of stuff. So like the
name Whendigo just got concrete really fast, but I don't
know what it was. Dude.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah, no, I got you, I understand I I so,
I do a lot of investigations and we do I
say investigation, but a lot of research in the Allegheny
National Forest. And we actually have a picture that someone
gave us a it's a a guy like So, we

(52:09):
had a campsite next to us, which there's dispersed camping
in the Alleghany National Force.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Right.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
So when I say the campsite next to us, it's
it's literally a half a mile away, sure, and we're
like five miles in on some fire road. Right. Well,
he shows us because he's kind of freaked out. Somebody
had to somebody in our party had talked to him
previously because we were we had a lot of people

(52:40):
in this one campsite, and he went and talked to
them to see if possibly when they were leaving, because
then we would put overflow into that campsite.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Right.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Well, he goes, oh, you know, they talked. They ended
up talking about what we were doing there, and he goes, oh,
my gosh, let me show you something thing. So he
pulls a trail cam out and opens it up, and
you know how you can like, look at the trail cam.

(53:12):
There's a literal picture of a rake what I would
call a rake, just the white, lanky long I mean,
the arms are past the knees, man standing right next
to their tent. And now I have a copy of
this picture, so if you want to look at it,

(53:33):
you look at it, and it's not a good one.
I have access to another copy of it. But oh
my gosh, out in the middle of the woods, that beeping. Okay,
I was no because my my trash is getting picked

(53:55):
up so I can hear this. That's funny. But they
have big eyes, bigger because I think they're nocturnal.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
Whatever, dude think they live in the caves?

Speaker 2 (54:09):
I agree, So by you do you know Shane? Oh,
I hate names show uh inquiries of the Yeah, he's him.
And I talked about this plenty because wow, yeah, you
know again, caves, abandoned stuff, stuff like that. But that

(54:32):
that's what I think a lot of people are seeing.
But technically a rake isn't like a real name for them,
right who knows what they are? I don't know what
they are.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
I've seen some people even call him sasquatch.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Yeah maybe, like because it's like all gets fuzzy there, right,
like people consider when to go. Uh no, I don't
think that's correct. But you know, opinions are like asshole
colors and shapes and usually they all stink, so but

(55:09):
you know what I mean. So, uh yeah, that's pretty interesting.
So I wonder well, and another thing, and they have
a tendency of crawling.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Yep, sometimes upside down and backwards, like they're what the hell,
they're crazy? And like, I think that rakes are largely
responsible for a lot of the unexplained activity that goes
on in places like the Superstition Mountains, the Anisazi Valley,

(55:38):
the Valley of the Headless Men, that's that, I'm sorry,
the Anahani Valley in Canada, which is uh yeah, you know,
and then the Ansaz are further south. There are people
that disappeared. I believe that was Nephelo activity, but they Yeah,
I think that rakes are a lot of have a

(56:00):
lot to do with some of that kind of stuff,
because those rakes are the most realistic cryptid to me.
I think I believe in rakes more than I believe it,
and I haven't had a big foot encounter, so it's
like it's kind of biased for me to say this,
but I believe in rakes more than I believe in
like forgotten specie forgotten relic species in the world.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Yeah, I've had two Sasquatch experiences.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
Do you think they're spiritual?

Speaker 2 (56:29):
I do. I think I Actually, I'm gonna say it.
I'm going to commit. Yeah. So many people have asked
me this question, and I've been very leary to commit,
but now I'm committing for the first time to an audience.
I think they're laud. I think that they are descendants
of the nephilin. That's that's what I think. I think.

(56:53):
I think the closest person, like if you take one
of the big names, and this is genre, the person
that I think is closest to what they're actually what
they actually are, is La mar Zuli. I think they're
the theory on is what my opinion. Now, that doesn't

(57:15):
mean that they're all evil or bad. I feel like
maybe there are populations of them because I've heard so
many reports and stories of people that have that have
had like telepathic conversation, people like people that I've met

(57:39):
and know and like I wouldn't say no, but that
I've met and was able to make judgments, you know,
character judgments in person. And we can talk about that later.
Why but h and they've told me that, you know,
they've had conversations with with these things and that they're

(58:01):
not evil, but some of them are. A lot of
them are. I don't know, you know, but that's what
I think. I think that there's also a some sort
of we're all kind of in holding pattern, waiting for something. Well,

(58:21):
does that make sense?

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Yeah? I mean, I'm going to be talking about this
on Wednesday. But my idea is that we're in the
seventh day still God's resting man, and we're we never
made it to the eighth day, and the eighth day
is going to be redemption and rebuilt, and you know,
the kingdom and what we're in now is is a

(58:48):
transitional period. We're literally in purgatory right now. Not that
according to the Catholic idea yet, but you understand what
I'm saying. We're in limbus and we are allowed to
be just like Job was, you know, sort of caught
in his own world where he has to undergo all
of these trials and tribulations, and we're in the same
they're in the same position, and so I agree with you.

(59:13):
In short, I do think that they are spiritual entities,
and I do think they have supernatural qualities. I think
they can teleport, I think they can communicate via telekinesis,
and I think they're dangerous a lot of the time.
I think when people think about feral people in the woods.
So I have two real ideas. One is that there
are actual tribes of individuals out there, hybrids and not.

(59:34):
But also I think a lot of that and missing
four one one activity is attributed to these sasquatch entities
that are are beyond physical capability physical capabilities alone, They
have a spiritual quality to them that makes them impossible
to find, makes them impossible to photograph. You know, everybody

(59:55):
likes to say, well, oh, if you saw it, why
didn't you get a photograph if you had your phone
or all these high tech phones these days, But you
can't get a picture of it. It's not like that
because light doesn't make them the same way. And so
that I'm I'm of that opinion as well. I've yet
to see something, but they they do tell me that

(01:00:16):
my encounter with the skin walker or whatever we want
to call it, is more akin to sasquatch encounter than
anything that I get a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Now, I don't disagree either, because I've also seen and
heard reports of them crawling like that, like just off
the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
That's so creepy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
There's actually a really good story, she actually calls it.
So it's a Manda, the Sasquatch lady as what we'll
call her, right, okay, and that's what she calls herself.
But she works at the Expedition Bigfoot Museum in North Georgia,
and she has an encounter that she talks about and
she calls it the bear skin rug creature because it's

(01:00:58):
the only way that she could describe it is that
literally was moving like a rug acrust. I hate the
forest floor, right, I hate that? And uh yeah, it's
but it's a really good encounter.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
It's like what so it's kind of like they say,
like if you're if you think something's out there but
you're you're not seeing it, look up. That puts a
whole new perspective on it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Look down too, Yeah, look down too, for sure. So
I mean whenever I go, because you know, we I do.
I go out in the woods quite a bit, and
I've gone out once alone, and I'll never do it again.
Twice twice actually once, Yeah, anyway, it doesn't matter. But
I've had many a camera, three cameras specifically, and and

(01:01:50):
three cameras and two cell phones completely suck dry of
when I should have actually gotten a picture. I've also
had recording issues where things were recorded before a certain
moment and things were recorded after a certain moment, but
there's there's nothing but static in between, So there's a

(01:02:12):
manipulation there. And I actually sleep when I sleep out
in the woods. I have a rooftop tent on my
SUV now, But when I used to sleep like in
a tent, and I didn't use any deterrence, I would
there's times when we had something was messing with our

(01:02:34):
tent period. If fans are but no, ifans are buds right.
What that was exactly, I don't know. But then I
started using trail cams and driveway lasers as a deterrent.
Guess what all activity ceased at night at least where

(01:02:55):
those things covered. Just saying they're int elegent, whatever it is,
I don't know exactly, but I think that's my theory.
So that's where I'm going.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
I mean they're probably related to all these uh drones
that we were seeing flying around Jersey and all this
all of a sudden is nothing. That's just commercial drones. Like,
it's just so many things that as soon as you
start getting eyes on them, they'll just explain away somehow.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
So I don't Yeah, it's all you know, it's all confusing,
and you know, but that's by design, I think, so, yeah,
for sure, So talk to me a little bit about
you brought up Iceland earlier, and you don't need to

(01:03:46):
go into detail on stuff, but if you want, you know,
you go into as much detail as you want. But
what is it something like seventy five percent or seventy
percent of Icelanders icelandic.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
Yeah, Icelanders believe in elves yea like that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
It's a it's a it's a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
Yeah, it's it's it's uh, it exceeds half for sure.
And it's when you go there. I've been there twice,
and when you go there, it's even more obvious. And
it's it's the belief is like so strange because it's
almost like I'm trying to think of have you ever
seen that movie The Village? Yeah, it's like that, where

(01:04:29):
like you go there and like people believe in a
monster in the woods, even if they haven't seen it.
It's but they're not like scared of it because they
just know, like if they just follow the rules, then
nothing bad will happen. It's exactly like that. It's a
cultural like acceptance that that elves and and hidden people
exist in Iceland, and they also believe in trolls. Although

(01:04:52):
it's my personal opinion and I said this in my
documentary that the trolls were Nephelum who were actually a
Nihi in Iceland. I believe there was an Apocalypse style
battle that went on in Iceland and that's why the
island is the way it is. People hate it when
I say that, But when you go there and you
go to places like Dimu Borger and you see what

(01:05:13):
they call stargates and portals, and you realize that these
these cracks in the earth go down nobody knows how deep.
And they say that there's cathedral sized caves underneath them
and all that kind of stuff. There's actually caves that
you can go there that were dug before Jesus Christ
entered the idea. And it's just like where do these

(01:05:34):
who dug this like and they're like massive stone tunnels.
So like I believe that that whole area was once
overrun with entities that weren't supposed to be there. I
think it was like sort of like a place you
don't want to go and yeah, like a like a
haven for Yeah, and even the early Icelanders they called

(01:05:56):
it the land of the gods, like it was a
place that was very very strange and magical. And so
the people there as there's not many and it's like
under it's under half a million people. I think it's
like something like three hundred thousand people live in.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Iceland, yeah, around three hundred thousand.

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
Yeah, and so it's it's not a lot of people.
But when you go there and see how they've developed,
they changed the course of roads away from these structures
that they call elf towers or elf churches. They have
all of these ideas that if you divert civilization away

(01:06:39):
from their land, nothing will happen to you. And the
farmers are especially like that out there, because sheep farming
is the main type of farming out Nothing grows there,
so like it's you know, you've got grass and you
don't even have trees because the Vikings cut them all down,
and so you've got just grass. So there's a lot
of sheep farmers out there. And I don't know if

(01:06:59):
you've seen that film by A twenty four it's just
called Lamb, but it's a great Icelandic film to watch
regarding some of the cryptid activity that they believe is
happening in Iceland. It's filmed in Iceland. It's a great film.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Lamb, Lamb or lam.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
Yep, just Lamb. Pretty pretty dark, sinister movie, but very good.
And and so I started doing some digging after my
first time there, I had an encounter, and so I
started doing more research and it took me a few
years to get all the research done and everything, but

(01:07:37):
I believe that there there is something going on there
as well. And one of the things that I discovered
was that even the Nazis went there during World War
two to sort of investigate some of these these stories,
right yeah, and these elf towers and churches and stuff.
They wanted to know, like what what's going on, just
like they went to look for Shambalah and all that

(01:07:59):
kind of stuff. That was kind of their mission to
come here. A lot of people don't know that. You know,
the Nazis were in Iceland, and that's one of the
reasons that the US actually basically in World War two
pretty much just told Iceland, look, you're a giant air
base for US now, and there's nothing you can do
about it. We got to stop the Nazis. And the
Icelanders hate that. They still consider it the invasion, the

(01:08:24):
United States invasion of Iceland just like we just like happens.
It's war though, right, But anyway, so like the the
I went to some of those locations this last time,
locations that I knew the Nazis went to, and yeah,
there's some weird stuff there. I totally believe that I

(01:08:46):
caught pan on film, and I actually I have it
on my YouTube channel. If you go and you watch
the Hold of the Folk, you'll see what I saw,
and you know it's it's staggering. So, now, did I
capture elves jumping from rock to rock? No, but you know,
what are the odds of me actually capturing that? And

(01:09:07):
if I did, everybody would just say I faked it anyway,
But you can see the faces that I show you
on film, and you can make your own decision. But
I I don't know, man, as I did. As my
travels went on there in Iceland. This second time, it
just became more apparent to me that this was this

(01:09:30):
was probably a giant battlefield or a place, one of
those places where God gave special attention to. I believe
there's apocalypse as we know nothing about, and I think
that some of them are restricted to very specific locations.
Maybe an angel fell there or something like. They literally
have this belief in this location in Demi borger that

(01:09:52):
that's where Satan came to the Earth and opened up
the gates of hell.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Well maybe maybe it's like we talk about Mount Herman, right, right,
do we really know? No, we don't actually know, just
like we don't actually know where like Mount Sinai is
right right, maybe instead of Mount Herman, maybe it was

(01:10:16):
Iceland very.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
Possibly, yeah, something like that, right right. But we also
don't you know, like the Book of Enoch was taken
out of Cannon, right, but we we don't know how
many stories like that occurred, since just because it was
recorded one time doesn't mean it's not still happening and
happening throughout time. I wonder sometimes like if there are

(01:10:39):
angels in heaven or wherever they are still rebelling, like
getting to the point where Okay, God's been sleeping forever
and I'm growing antsy. I mean, if it happened at
two hundred, why would it not continue to happen. We
know that there's hosts, right, We also know that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
If we talk about a second incursion for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
You know, yeah, I think it could be some shot.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Not for sure, but people do talk about that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
I just think it's something that's a lot like the
way we function on Earth. I think there's a whole
community of spiritual entities that we know nothing about, and
I think we do have, like allegedly the names of
several different types of angels that have been confirmed in
ancient texts and cross multiple religions, of course, but and

(01:11:29):
that is compelling to me. But I would argue that
these things behave a lot like we do, and they
want to experience the same things that humanity is able
to experience. And I think that part of that is
the tangibility I don't think that these angels have. They

(01:11:52):
it's almost like they are stuck in a spiritual form
to a certain point because they wanted our win it right,
so they wanted something we had that they didn't have.
I don't think it was just they wanted to corrupt
for the sake of correcting. I think that they were.
They gave in to temptation. They were not perfect, they

(01:12:13):
were not correct, and so because of that, they're constantly
searching for something on earth, and I believe that continues
to happen to this day. I don't think we're limited
to that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
I don't see why it wouldn't or how it couldn't
possibly be right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
And just like Sodom, are they all?

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
They're not all. I mean some that came later. They're
not necessarily you know, taking up and putting the pit right,
you know. I mean Timothy Alberino, Not that I believe
in everything that he says, but there he's when he
calls angels and I'll say angels for the lack of
a better term, when he calls them the elder race,

(01:12:53):
I think he's onto something right and that they were
created before or us. Obviously, they're like our big brothers
in God's family, right Yep, Yeah, for.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
Sure, absolutely, except they're below us.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Correct and in some ways. In some ways yes, and
some I think the ways that matter, they're below us,
but in essence, in a lot of ways, they're not
as as I guess as humans would perceive it, right, maybe.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
Yeah, it's an interesting idea because you know, everybody pictures
Adam as just this man, but like, I wonder what
Adam was really like because you have you have the
perfect Have you seen that movie Prometheus?

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Yes, it's like you have.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
Obviously Prometheus is a false god but or a deity
of some type, but yes, but he's sort of the
perfect figure of man. He's the he's the ultimate being.
And I feel like Adam was something like that, where
it was just like you're you're immortal. First of all,

(01:14:04):
you speak to God on a daily basis, to God himself.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
And literally, yeah, you literally walk through the garden.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
You walk through the garden and discuss stuff like that's great, diabolical,
that's crazy, and then you you factor in how even
that wasn't enough. Adam got lonely. And that's strange to
me because it's kind of like, you have immortality. You

(01:14:35):
you don't have this knowledge of woman. You don't know woman,
you know nothing of women because you're just you were
just created. You the only reality you have. There is
no what if God doesn't exist, there is no woman,
there is no nothing except what you have, what Adam
had in that moment, and he was this perfect being.

(01:14:56):
And so I really sometimes wonder like how angelic Adam
actually was, and if, like, what would happen if, for instance,
Adam wrestled Gabriel, would Adam just whoop his ass?

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
Would you just like you know, like? And so if
you look at it from that perspective, I think that's
what we will be redeemed too. And so it'll be
interesting to see where on the hierarchy we are in
in the in those days. But that's just a long
winded response.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Yeah, no, I get you. So I'm gonna we're gonna
start wrapping up. So I got two things first. The one,
it's a question that I've actually got to how much
of our current reality is a manufactured narrative in your opinion?

(01:15:50):
And or is it just like chaotic human nature playing out?

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
Well, I think there's two different things going on. I
think there's there are actual timeline changes, and those can
be I'm trying to think of like those are like
natural disasters. Those are like natural disasters, asterroids, flooding, all

(01:16:20):
that kind of stuff, stuff that just seems to happen
by the forces of nature, and I think that that
changes reality in small pockets.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Let's say we're talking like Mandela effect type stuff, or
we're talking about maybe that's that's a byproduct of that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
Well, Mandela effect goes back to Semyaza, if you ask me,
because I believe that he invented time. So like, okay,
so if you if you do so, the Mandela effect,
I would say, is demonic. What I'm talking about is
more like POMPEII like how or like the Mayan Empire.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Uh yeah, just total resets.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
The Anasazi people. Whatever happened in Iceland.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
What is that Anasazi thing? Was it the Cilostine prophecy
that was supposed to be from that? Do you know
what I'm talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Oh, but I don't want to derail you, that's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
And then then there's the other type of timeline shift,
which is very man made. And that's when we go
in and we wipe out civilizations, we dig out burial mounds,
We invent organizations like UNESCO and the Smithsonian, and they
become these government agencies that effectively tell you what the
story is and that's why everybody says archaeology is such

(01:17:32):
a hard field to break into. It's a hard field
to break into because you have to comply. You have
to tell the story. Remember it's his story. But that's
not God's story, that's whoever is writing the story, because
the story goes to the victors. So whoever conquers this
land gets to totally destroy the history of the previous people,
especially if they're mortal enemies. Like look at the case

(01:17:54):
of Genghis Khan or Alexander the Great Roman Empire, all
that kind of stuff. None of them were concerned with
preserving the history of the people that they conquered. There
were minor philosophers who were during that time, you know,
but there weren't like it's not like Alexander the Great
or Genghis Khan, We're like, we have to collect all
their relics and make sure their books are in order. No,

(01:18:16):
it was raping and pillaging endlessly until we all die,
That's what it was. And because of that, you do
have an element of time that is simply lost. But
so it's hard to answer the questions. But basically, what
I think is almost nothing within the past three hundred years,

(01:18:38):
five hundred years maybe can be trusted in America, in
the United States. I think it all ended, it all
changed again in the nineteen twenties. I think everything from
the nineteen twenties until now is completely fake. There's nothing real,
and it's real, as in, we're here and we can
touch it and we feel it. But the stories that
they tell us the architec extra is wrong. The history

(01:19:01):
doesn't make any freaking sense. I live a mile from
a burial mound that I go to daily to write.
I go out there to write, and I see evidence
in my backyard of a history that they don't want
to tell us existed. And so it's you have all

(01:19:22):
of these little time shifts going on constantly. And then
you do have Caesar, who invented the first real calendar,
and then Rome, of course became the Catholic Church. You
have Gregory the thirteenth, who then modified to make sure
Easter was not a pagan holiday anymore. And then he
added random days and took out random other ones, changing

(01:19:43):
the number once again. And then you have once the
stock market started coming into then we needed then we
needed time zones. We needed when businesses were going to
be open we needed when we could trade, and they
shifted time and gave us leap years and all that
kind of stuff, And so that timeline doesn't exist in
the way that it should. When God invented time, he

(01:20:06):
had two things, day and night, and he did it
seven times. And so as far as I'm concerned, that's
the only real time. Now. There is that Bible verse
that people like to point to where they're like, well,
Jesus said that there's twelve hours in the day. Well
he said that, but is that there's not, Like, let's
be honest, there's not twelve hours in the.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Day where I know, not in every day.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
Yeah, so what was he actually saying, Because either Jesus
was lying or he was saying something that he wasn't
he was saying something else with those words, And so
I believe that he was speaking to sort of like
our human idea of the twenty four hour day, but
that just so that we understood, but that that twenty
four hour day, in my opinion, was invented by Samyaza.

(01:20:52):
And so like this whole thing about the timeline and
about my reality, whether it's real or fake, I honestly
think that within the past one hundred years or so.
Almost none of the timeline is real and we are
effectively we were living on an invented timeline.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Oh, I would agree. Yeah. I mean the one thing
that is pretty consistent, believe it or not, or at
least an hour as we see it right now, is
the lunar cycles. And we've totally discounted all that.

Speaker 5 (01:21:27):
Yeah, it's like it doesn't make any sense, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
But that lines up with so many other things biologically
and with the way that we work, Like, how can
you ignore that?

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
But we do.

Speaker 4 (01:21:41):
We do. But anyway, because we try to control nature, right,
we try to force it to fit our schedule.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
In our construct right.

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
But the garden came before.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
So yes, absolutely so planting right, that's what this podcast
is about. The name broadcasting Seed. How do you what
is a seed that you would like to plant just
to get folks. I mean, we've talked about some pretty

(01:22:13):
stuff that people said swim, but what's something that that
you would like to put forward? A seed that you
would like to plant, you know, to kind of close
us out.

Speaker 4 (01:22:27):
Well, my motto for my show is don't drink the water,
question everything, and so the seed that I try to
plant in people's minds is perhaps it's a it's a
tree that grows, and the tree says I shouldn't be here.
The tree is representative of something that shouldn't be here,

(01:22:51):
and that thing that shouldn't be here, we need to
question why is it here? Why do we have these thoughts?

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Why is.

Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
God thought about? Why are these rules in place? And
do they actually make sense? So the biggest one, obviously
that I'm tackling right now is is Satan who he set,
who we are led to believe he is. And that's
a seed that I'm planting in somebody's head hopefully, like

(01:23:23):
question even the things that you know without a shadow
of a doubt, because you might be wrong. Because what
ends up happening is once we believe something, this is
what the human does, it's just natural. But like what
we end up doing is we find a solution that
satisfies us and we're like, okay, I know the answer, yeah,

(01:23:43):
and then we we're just like, Okay, I tackled that
now I don't have to worry about that. But where
did that answer come from? Who told you that answer?
Did you come to it yourself or did your pastor
tell you? Did your boss tell you? Did your brother
tell you? Who told you that? And so I see that.
I try to get everybody to plant themselves is in

(01:24:04):
their own minds. Please just question reality because the more
you question it, the more you realize it doesn't actually
make sense. And ultimately, regardless of that, have faith though,
because it's okay if it doesn't make sense, because in
the end, we don't need it to make sense. It's

(01:24:24):
not supposed to make sense for us. And so this
whole hunt for the answers is inevitably a hobby because
at the end of the day, the real matter is faith.
And if you have the faith, you're okay, man. But yeah,
but don't take everybody's answers just because they give them

(01:24:45):
to you. That's that's my my shtick.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
Gotcha perfect? And where can everyone find you?

Speaker 4 (01:24:54):
You can find me at twenty one Cdstudios dot com.
That's where all my links are. My main platform is YouTube,
although since Spotify is now doing video, I'm also heavy
on Spotify. But if you just google twenty one CD
podcast you'll find me anywhere. I'm kind of all over
the place, to be honest, I'm on Rumble all that

(01:25:16):
kind of stuff and I'm a very heavy visual creator,
so I primarily video versus audio. But I do also
make all my podcasts episodes audio capable so you don't
have to watch the video. I used to be a
truck drivers, so I get needing to just listen instead

(01:25:36):
of seeing all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Absolutely, pardon the I so right, So John, appreciate you
coming on, man, Yeah, of course, and we'll have to
do it again. It was a great time future here.
Let some time pass. I'm I'm sure there's plenty of
the crap we can talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:25:56):
When I get out of the north Woods. I'll come
see you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Yeah, man, all right, man, I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
See you guys.

Speaker 7 (01:26:03):
Yeah, I got bad thoughts that make my mind scared.
Hold me hostage and they don't fight fair. Who gonna
pray for me?

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
And wipe on my tests? Who's gonna save me? If
you're not right here? Move this darkness and make my
sight clear. Take me your way, because I don't like you.
Don't stop my past. They feel in the night here,
wake me up. I'm trapped in my nightmasses, trapped in my.

Speaker 6 (01:26:33):
Nightmas, trowning, trown in our mouth, the deepen apparition some
of all my demis, all my thoughts ill come making.

Speaker 7 (01:26:50):
Treason all alone.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
I'm gonna hear me screaming matter pasta sits on my fists.

Speaker 7 (01:26:56):
Regrets that stretched out for light years you can almost
touch the light means right there, body free but attracting
my nightmare.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
I'm don't let meet you all the life of fame.

Speaker 6 (01:27:08):
All my life is faith, and all my life is faced,
and that I was fake.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
I don't let mis jo.

Speaker 6 (01:27:15):
All my life is paying, all my life is pain
enough

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
We attracted my nightmas

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