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August 27, 2025 69 mins

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In this wealth-meets-wellness episode, I sit down with Jon Sabas — entrepreneur, author of "Healthy Wealthy Longevity," and longevity advocate — to tackle the elephant in the room we've somehow avoided for 90 episodes: money and why high-earners are still stressed about finances.

From exposing why financial literacy doesn't automatically come with high income to revealing how health became his ultimate competitive advantage, Jon drops serious truth bombs about building sustainable wealth while actually enjoying your life for the long haul.

Whether you're a high-performer throwing money at problems, stressed about cash flow despite a great salary, or wondering how to balance career ambition with actually living, this conversation will transform how you think about true wealth and longevity.

What we cover:

✔️ The high-earner paradox: why smart people make terrible money decisions

✔️ Financial literacy reality check: do you know your personal net worth right now?

✔️ Why "throwing money at problems" creates more problems

✔️ The Blue Zones controversy: what's real vs. what's storytelling (and why it matters)

✔️ How health became Jon's ultimate business competitive advantage

✔️ Environment design: making healthy choices the default choice

✔️ The retirement fallacy: why 65 is the new 45 and planning for 50 more years

✔️ Type-A health obsession: when biohacking becomes another addiction

✔️ The 4 AM advantage: building sustainable high-performance rhythms

✔️ Why your emergency email at 2 AM probably isn't saving lives

✔️ Gadget-free zones: finding balance between tracking and feeling

Jon doesn't just preach wealth-building — he reveals how true prosperity combines financial success with physical vitality and why the wealthiest life is one lived fully for as long as possible.

Timestamps: 00:00 – Breaking the money taboo: 90 episodes in and we finally go there 05:02 – High-earner financial stress: why smart people make dumb money moves 11:08 – Financial literacy test: do you know your net worth right now? 18:23 – The root cause revelation: why throwing money at problems fails 26:02 – Health as competitive advantage: how fitness transformed his career 31:59 – Blue Zones breakdown: controversy, credibility, and what really matters 40:15 – Environment design: making healthy choices effortless 46:56 – Type-A health obsession: when tracking becomes toxic 53:52 – Marathon lessons: balancing obsession with relationships 58:56 – The 4 AM formula: sustainable high-performance rhythms 01:02:08 – Retirement fallacy: planning for 108 years old

Resources:

  • Jon's book: "Healthy Wealthy Longevity: The Good Things in Life for as Long as Possible"
  • Website: johnsabas.com
  • Follow Jon on social media: @johnsabas
  • Longevity Financial Partners: Jon's latest venture

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