For over a century, dogs—especially beagles—have been used in laboratory experiments, enduring unnecessary suffering for products designed for humans. Despite scientific advancements and the passage of the FDA Modernization Act 2.0, which allows alternatives to animal testing, many research labs continue these outdated and cruel practices.
In this episode of The Counter, we sit down with Ellie Hansen—animal rights activist and award-winning writer—to discuss why laboratories are still using dogs for experiments, the misconceptions about animal testing, and what can be done to end this unethical and ineffective practice.
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🚨 Trigger Warning: While descriptions in this conversation are mild compared to what the dogs endure, some listeners may find the content distressing.
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For more information on the FDA Modernization Act 2.0, see the following:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/5002
https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(23)00254-1/fulltext
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10617761/
https://cn-bio.com/us-fda-modernization-act-2-what-does-it-mean/
https://www.npr.org/2023/01/12/1148529799/fda-animal-testing-pharmaceuticals-drug-development
https://centerforahumaneeconomy.org/2024/02/06/fda-required-to-implement-animal-testing-reforms
https://www.science.org/content/resource/new-path-new-drugs-finding-alternatives-to-animal-testing
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Ellie Hansen Bio
Ellie Hansen is an award-winning writer and animal rights activist. She holds a B.A. degree in Mass Communications and Public Relations from Bloomsburg University. Ellie’s published works include two books and magazine articles focusing on profound human relationships with dogs.
In 2015, Ellie adopted two beagles who were used for much of their lives for pharmaceutical research in undisclosed U.S. laboratories. Both dogs were severely traumatized and needed extensive rehabilitation to acclimatize to their new lives outside the laboratory. Witnessing their resilience and uncovering the facts about dogs used for research inspired Ellie to write her second book Laboratory Dogs Rescued: From Test Subjects to Beloved Companions (2021, McFarland & Company Inc. Publishers).
Ellie is currently the producer and host of the Dog Research Exposed Podcast dedicated to disseminating information related to ending this cruel and outdated practice of using dogs in chemical and biomedical research worldwide. In early 2024 she embarked on a national tour with Dog Research Exposed to personally deliver signed petitions to facilities still using dogs for experiments. As of August 2024, Hansen has visited over 20 research facilities in 13 states and driven over 13,000 miles. Hansen also successfully planned and orchestrated the first-ever protest at Marshall Farms in New York State—the largest factory farm breeder of beagles and other animals for experimentation in the U.S.
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