Episode 27: A Father’s Battle Against Trans Ideology with Adam Vena

Welcome to the Dark Side of the Rainbow. Today we have Adam Vena. Adam has been fighting for his child who has been affected and taken over by the trans ideology. 

Adam shares his story, starting from when his son was two years old and how it all began with a text message of his son in a pink dress. Over the years, Adam has faced numerous challenges, including court battles, temporary restraining orders, and being completely cut out of his son's life. He discusses his struggles with the family court system, the lack of proper representation, and the impact of gender assessments ordered by the court.

Throughout the episode, Adam talks about the emotional toll this has taken on him and his family, the support he has received, and his ongoing fight to protect his son. He also shares advice for other parents who might find themselves in similar situations, emphasizing the importance of monitoring children's activities and maintaining open communication within the family.

Join us as we delve into Adam's heartbreaking journey and his relentless advocacy for his child's well-being. This episode sheds light on the complex and often controversial issues surrounding trans ideology and parental rights.

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to the Dark Side of the Rainbow. I am your host, Robert Wallace,
and today we have Adam Vina.
And Adam has been fighting for his child who has been affected and really taken
over by the trans ideology.
And he's been doing the work of a parental advocate.

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And so for that, we're grateful and we are so grateful to have you on today.
Adam, how are you? you. I'm good, Robert. Thank you for having me on.
I appreciate it. Thank you. Absolutely.
So for our listeners, can you give us some background as to how you found yourself in this position?
I found myself in this position when my son was two years old.

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My son is now six years old.
It started out by a text message from my son's mother of him in a pink dress.
And I received that text message and I showed it to my father.
And I specifically told my father, How could she do this to my son?
It was a complete blind side.
I would never have thought that she would put my son in a dress.

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And so I wrote her back. And I basically said, don't do this to my son.
My son is a boy, not a girl. Don't do this to my son.
Mind you, there was some choice words in those text messages.
But it was like, don't do this to my son type text messages.
So I had thought it had stopped. and on my son's this is where this is where

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it really starts to to kind of blow up on me my
son's birthday we had negotiated that she would have him on his birthday which
is the 25th and i would have him on the day after his birthday anytime that
we negotiated stuff with my son i always accommodated her you know to not i

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guess poke the bear or stir the fire like if she wanted him on Christmas.
She could have him on Christmas because I didn't want... Anyways.
So on his third birthday, we went out and we were potty training him at the time.
He came up to me and said, Daddy, I got to go to the bathroom. I said, great, buddy.
He said, do you need help or do you want to go by yourself? He said,
no, I want to go by myself.
I said, perfect. If you need some help, please let me know and then I'll help

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you out. He said, okay. So he finished up. He said, Dad, I need help washing my hands.
I helped to wash his hands as we were leaving the restroom. room.
He tells me that mom had bought him a pink dress.
And the way I am going to tell you and the way I'm going to tell your viewers
and your followers, I got down on one knee.
I looked him in the eye and said, hey, buddy, you're a boy and boys don't wear dresses.
He looked at me. He said, okay, daddy. And we went back to cake and ice cream.

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And a few days later, I'll be honest with you, Robert, it was really,
really bugging me why she would do this to my son.
It was really, really bugging me.
So what I did is I had sent out a group of text messages, 46 of text messages
in a row, basically stating, he's a boy, not a girl.
Stop dressing my son in girls' clothes. Again, with other choice words in those text messages.

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But never were there any threats of violence to her or to my son.
Never was there, I'm going to come and beat you up.
Never was, I'm going to come and take my son from you. Nothing like that.
It was basically saying, stop doing this to my son.
He's a boy, not a girl. And with that group of text messages,
she was able to get a temporary restraining order put on me.
And that was for her and for my son.

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And at that point on June 26, almost four years ago, was the last time I have
physically held my son Aiden.
So we end up going to court and Judge Hardy Silverman out of Pasadena orders
a gender assessment to be done on my son. mind you, I never had proper representation in my case.

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I, as if anybody has gone through the family court system or even a court system
for any type of thing, they know how expensive lawyers are.
I did, I called around and I did not have 50,000, $60,000 retainer just lying
around in my bank account. I don't know anybody this day and age.
I mean, maybe some people do,
but I just, I didn't have that type of money sitting around in my account.

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So I was referred to an attorney and this attorney, he didn't share the same
beliefs, but I felt that we could work around that.
And the reason why I'm telling you this is because judge Harvey Silverman ordered
a gender assessment to be done on my, at the time Aiden was three and a half, four years old.
And again, I spoke out against it in court, but my attorney felt that this was a good thing.

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So I asked to sit in on this
gender assessment and this is how bad the minors council my attorney and opposing
counsel are i asked to sit on the assessment and i said in court was something
as great as gender is right i should me the father should be able to sit on
the assessment i was denied denied to sit in at children's hospital.

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To give my story or my feelings on what's going on with my son.
I hired my own child therapist to sit in on this assessment.
They denied me my own child therapist, not to sway left or right,
but to sit in there and find out exactly how they're going to get to the step
to, I don't even know what the word is, how they're going to figure out what's
going on with my son, Aiden.

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They denied me that. And they also denied me a phone call.
So I have never spoken to the doctor at Children's Hospital of Los Angeles.
I have personally gone down to Children's Hospital of Los Angeles to speak with
this doctor. They will not allow me to speak with the doctor.
Never, never in this case has any of these groups ever sat the father down to

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ask me what is going on with my son.
I've asked in court, can we all four sit down and five sit down and discuss
what's going on with my son?
And they have never taken my opinions on this.
And I told the judge in court, I said, if you guys would have sat me down in
court, as I requested to find out what the father thinks going on with his son.

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You wouldn't have the pissed off father that you have on today.
But because it has been completely one sided, you have only taken her side on
this and you never come out and asked me, this is why I am so upset like I am in court.
This is why I'm so angry because we're dealing with a child a very young child
and I don't know all the I don't know what gender dysphoria is I don't know

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what gender curious is I don't know any of that but what I do know is that my
son never wanted to be this way when he was in custody with me when I had physical custody of Aiden.
He never showed an inkling that he wanted to be a girl.
He never wanted girl stuff. When we went shopping, he never,
he never, the only bad thing that little boy ever did is he chose the wrong

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baseball hat. We were at a, at a, at a hat store.
I was looking forward to buying him his first baseball hat. We were walking
around the store and he grabbed a Los Angeles angels hat, or I'm sorry, Anaheim angels hat.
And I, my heart stopped and I said, nobody, we don't, we don't wear that hat.
We, we wear the Dodgers hats.
So, but that's, but he never showed
an inkling that he wanted to be this way this is why

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i know that this is something that has been
been forced upon him and now what i
know now has been groomed upon him i mean robert they refer to my son in court
as my daughter my my son now has she her pronouns and my son goes by a girl's
name and they never allowed me to be a father to my son i was not

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allowed to speak about male stuff with my son.
I couldn't talk about his attire. I had to sit on FaceTime conversations that
were corner pointed as my son has earrings in his ear, fingernails polished, right.
Talking about dresses and everything like that. And I could not say anything about that.
If, and if I did, it would be a restraining order violation. Wow.

(07:47):
This year's situation is surreal. Yeah.
And again, I have made some mistakes in this situation and I,
and I own those mistakes, but the mistakes I've made, Robert do not warrant
the, the criminalization that has been brought upon me.
It does not warrant me being removed from my son's life just because I don't, I feel a different way.

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I believe in a different way in what's going on with my son.
They have completely criminalized me. They've criminalized the grandparents.
The grandparents have not seen Aiden in four years.
And from what I have found out is that they haven't seen him because they're not gender affirming.
And that was the key word from opposing counsel is that they're not gender affirming
because they heard my father in a conversation say, say that,

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that, that his grandson is not a girl, but a boy.
And they use that against the grandparents for them not to see them.
I mean, we've gone, I went seven months, we went seven months talking about
visitations with my son. and every time I agreed to one of their stipulations,
they always threw something ahead of me. They gave me another stipulation.

(08:53):
I had to agree to this. And so I agreed and they kept steamrolling me and roadblocking me.
They had no inkling or they never wanted to give me my son back.
And I received an email stating, Adam, sorry, but we dropped the ball on visitations.
Mind you, Robert, I was calling them once a week to find out what I needed to do.
Do I need to call supervised visitations? do how

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much does it cost when are we going to start and we
i never received emails back from miners
council opposing council nothing like that
or even my even my council and then i get
the email saying adam we dropped the ball on visitations and when they say they
dropped the ball but what did that mean exactly that there's just nothing that

(09:36):
can be done well if there was nothing to be to be done then why did you why
did you say we're going to set up visitations with you Why did you tell me that
we were going to schedule supervised visitations?
That's why I know that they kept stringing me along like a dog, right?
On a leash, teasing me to say, oh yeah, we're going to give you your son back.
But then they had no intention of giving my son back.

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The reason why I know that again is because they never told opposing,
they never told the judge that there was grandparents involved.
Even the judge said, if I would have known grandparents were involved,
I would have granted visitations for the grandparents, right?
Judge Harvey Silverman out of Pasadena looks at minors council,
says, minor council, I want this to be taken care of right away.

(10:18):
We're going on almost a year and a half and his grandparents have not seen that little boy.
Minors council did nothing. My parents had to reach out to minors council.
Minors council is supposed to be the person that is going to advocate for the child.
This minors council never advocated for my son.
The other reason why I know that is because I'm still sitting on Christmas gifts

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from four years ago that they could not negotiate to give to my son.
Wow. So dropping the ball is putting it lightly.
That's very charitable. It sounds like this is beyond negligence and so sad.
I'm so sorry for what you're going through.
What a travesty. So your son, and he is your son. Yes, sir.
He is not being given...

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What kind of representation is he? Is he coming out and then just repeating what he's being told?
Is he not being given a voice because they're making assumptions?
Where is he? I have no idea, Robert. I have no clue. They have completely cut
me out of that little boy's life.
The assessment at Children's Hospital Los Angeles was 90 minutes long, right? Right.

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And from what I read from the first assessment is that Aiden was very upset.
He didn't want to be there. Of course, he's four years old. He only spoke five
minutes with the doctor and the rest of the time was with the mother.
So how can you get a proper assessment done with a child in five minutes?
You're just doing the assessment.
You're, you're, what's the word I'm looking for? You're, you're going along

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with what the mother says.
Well, the mother could be pushing anything, right? Could be
saying anything to the doctor to get what she wants and you
can't you can't get a proper assessment in in five
minutes with a child especially a five-year-old a four-year-old at the
time you know and so the assessment comes out that he's gender curious right
that's what the assessment is that he's gender curious but they have treated

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Aiden as if he is full transgender he had they have treated him as if he has
full blown gender dysphoria.
My, my son didn't have gender dysphoria.
He had, he was gender curious, but they still affirmed him with a girl's name.
They still affirmed him with pronouns and they still affirmed him as,

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as my daughter all the time.
So who knows exactly what's being done to him on the outside that I can't see.
I'm, I'm pretty sure that he has a, a
queer therapist that is is pumping
that little boy with so much stuff opposing counsel is has pronouns herself
so i've never had a fair shake in this case robert never i've never never tell

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us a bit about your she your ex-wife or ex-girlfriend ex-girlfriend.
Can you kind of characterize her personality? And, you know,
obviously she's having everything to do with the ideas that are coming into Aiden's head.
So would you have ever suspected that she would have gone down this route?

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No, sir. I would never expected this to go down this route that she's going
down. I've always, I've never spoke ill about my son's mother.
If you watch any of my videos, I've done one video that completely cursed her
out in a video. but 99% of the time, I never speak ill of my son's mother.
I never even speak ill of my son's mother in court, right?

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I have always said that besides what she's doing to my son, which is horrific,
at least I know my son is gonna be clean, well-fed.
He's always gonna have a roof over his head and he's always gonna have some
type of safe environment.
So I know my son is protected in that way, but what she's doing on the other
side of, of, I guess, affirming or pushing this, this, this new gender on my

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son is, is completely wrong.
I think that almost outweighs the good that, that I know that she's doing.
Does that make sense? Yeah, it totally makes sense.
You know, I just can't help, you know, I've just devastated hearing,
you know, the details of your story.
I've heard it before, but, you know, just listening to you, you know,
as, as a man, you are clearly a man in the stereotypical sense and, you know,

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you have the masculinity that comes with manhood and to have this whole thing
come from left field, this what James Lindsay calls the clarification of the
American child, you know, enter into your life.
All of a sudden it's just gotta be so confusing.
Why and how can this actually be happening?
Yeah. Yeah. It's like you said, it's completely from completely from left field.

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Adam, I, all the things that I had to worry about for my son,
this was definitely not one of them.
Definitely not one of them. I mean, she's got another son from a previous relationship
that has autism. And I know that autism runs.
They don't know. I guess I don't know exactly how it runs, but that was one
of my fears because I know it's genetic almost when it comes to autism.
I've got severe learning disabilities and ADHD.

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So those three things when my son was born, before he was born and when he was
born, is something that I really,
really worried about was the autism and the learning disabilities and the ADHD
because I know how difficult for myself and seeing her son struggle with autism.
Autism, I know how difficult those things are.
And those were the things that I was worried about. I was never,

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I never would have expected my son to be this way.
Like I said, it was completely out of left field for me.
And as you just mentioned, things like autism,
these children are particularly susceptible to this ideology,
to being fed these narratives that, oh, you liked a Barbie one time,
so now you're a girl or whatever. Do you want to try a dress?

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Oh, oh, I think that's a pretty color. Oh, well, then maybe we can go all in on that.
And then so a parent who wants to get carried away and find fuel for those sorts
of thoughts and inclinations very easily.
And so at Gays Against Groomers, we don't believe any child is born into the wrong body.

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And you've probably heard the term munchausen by proxies, where a parent creates
this situation with their child that generates more attention back to them,
this doesn't have any benefit to a kid to start to assess their gender,

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oh my gosh, at such a young age.
And I think, Robert, I think this started very, very small, but once...
The judge got involved. The judge is gay also, and he first started out representing
clients in West Hollywood.
The therapists, the attorneys, I think that those three people played a huge

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role in steamrolling this completely out of control.
Does that make sense to you? I feel that if the judge and the attorneys were
removed from the situation, which I tried to get these people removed from the situation,
I think it wouldn't have steamrolled out of control as it is.

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But as soon as doctors, the attorneys, all these people that believe that what
they're doing to Aiden is right,
I think that's truly when it started to really steamroll out of control because
her previous attorney never referred to Aiden as my daughter,
never referred to him in those manners.
But it was only until the pro bono attorney from the Genesee Center got involved

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that it really started to get out of control with everything. thing.
Well, you've got a lot of people steering the ship and it sounds like Aiden
is probably completely being ignored if he does or says anything to the contrary
to where they've set their determination.
Because we know if there's one thing that will keep a parent from turning course,

(18:15):
it's the shame and the recognition that they had made this mistake and needing
to stay right and be right just so they don't have to confront the reality of
what they've done can be a motivating factor for keeping up with a bad decision
and putting good money after bad. Right. Yeah, it's...
The damage that has been done to my son, I truly feel, Robert,

(18:38):
is going to be irreversible.
Even if I do get my son back, because as of right now, they've got me on a five-year restraining order.
But technically, when you look at it, it's going to be an eight-year restraining
order because I was on a three-year temporary, and then they granted the five-year restraining order.
And that was only because of words.
They granted all of this only because of words that I spoke and because of the text messages.

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But there's never been any
violence never any physical violence we've all
it's only been words between her and i and the
only way that a child from what i understand the only way a child can
be removed from a parent or parents if there is abuse and neglect and there's
never been abuse or neglect between on her or him but they completely removed

(19:25):
me from his my son's life as if i was abusing and neglecting my son this just
sounds like a massive case of gaslighting I mean, if even I,
as a gay individual, if I was in the same situation,
I would be just as outraged by this.
And so, of course, they're using your masculinity, they're using your,

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you know, kids aren't born in the wrong body sort of perspective against you.
And to think that you wouldn't be upset is just so crazy to me.
I don't know any couple in the world who upon a separation, you know,
if one parent decided to go and start transitioning the child or the other parent wouldn't be upset.

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Like, how could you not be upset by that? Yeah. I mean, we've got Jeff Younger out of Texas.
We've got Ted Haduko out of Northern Southern California.
I mean, Jeff Younger, I guess, just had a case here in LA and that's going to
determine whether or not he's
going to get his sons at 12 is going to get his private areas removed.

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And that's going on right now. I'm getting off topic, but it's.
Like I've always said, I've made the mistakes, but the mistakes don't warrant
the criminalization that has happened to me.
It doesn't warrant the police having to come to my house.
I mean, mind you, before this, I had never stepped foot in a courtroom.
The last time I stepped foot in a courtroom, I'm 44.

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I went to the court because I got caught smoking cigarettes at 16 years old.
That was the last time I was ever in court.
I had no priors to this, not an alcoholic, not a drunk. I've got an amazing job.
I'm working 50, 60 hour weeks. So I'm not this deadbeat guy on the street that's
not taking care of his responsibilities or he's not doing this. I'm just a normal guy.

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And they have put me into this box with all these other people and they've treated me as such.
I understand that there's some cases out there, but I truly believe that you
have to look at these cases on a, on a, on a case by case basis.
You know, if a person doesn't have any priors or anything like that,

(21:34):
you shouldn't throw the whole book at him just because, you know,
he got upset with what his, how the mother is, is, is raising their kid,
you know, especially if there was no violence in the matter,
you know? Yeah, absolutely. That's insane.
So before we get back into this, what kind of advice or things have you learned

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that you could share with our listeners who maybe have gone through this,
could in the future go through this and may know somebody who's going through this?
I mean, obviously you have everything, it seems like working against you.
So, but I'm sure you've learned some things that may be looking back.
Yeah. My situation is different because it happened from within the home.

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You know, a lot of, some of these situations are happening in schools outside of the family.
The one thing I always tell people is monitor the cell phones with your kids.
Make sure you know exactly what that child is looking at on that phone.
The other thing I urge parents to do, I know things are different in every state,

(22:36):
especially here in California, but I would like to see the dinner table be brought back in the family.
When I was a kid, I thought it was stupid because I wanted to stay outside.
It was still light. I wanted to go play with my friends and everything like
that. But now that I've gotten older, I realized how important the dinner table was.
That's the place where mom, dad, and kids can sit down and talk to each other.

(22:57):
The parents can find out what's going on in their child's lives and really engage
with their child to find out because there's so much,
I guess, if you want to say wicked stuff going on in our system and in our states
that you really, you've got to stay extra vigilant in your child's life these
days. That is a great point.
Because they're not just coming after left or right kids. They're coming.

(23:19):
It looks to me that they're like, they're, they're coming after everyone's kid.
They don't care what side of the aisle you're voting on or anything like that.
They're just, I mean, you look at AB 1955 that they're passing here in California.
That's going to restrict teachers from telling the mother and dad or the father
and mother whether your son or your daughter has got a mental illness or something like that.

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And if they're struggling with their gender, they're going to hide that from the parents.
I mean, you can just see the war that's happening on the parents,
especially here in California. I can't speak on other states.
I can just see what's happening here in California. But there's an all-out assault
on parents and children here in the state of California.
And we there's no there's a few people that are that

(24:02):
are at the capitol fighting for us there's a few states
the statesmen that are fighting but there's not enough
to to really expose what is going on
here in california you know let's talk about the
war on children the film yeah you were
in that right no no that was a harrison tensley that was oh harrison that's
the other one you're just mentioning okay you guys the stories are so similar

(24:25):
but i was like you look way different than I told him I'd call him today to
find out how him and his son are doing. So I got to give him a call today.
Yeah. Yeah. That's good that you're staying in touch with people who are going
through the same thing. Absolutely.
There is. It's just like you said, this is not a right or left thing.

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This is an all-out assault on children, on their sanity, on their stability,
on their sterility, but everything that has to do with them growing up and maturing
to be a well-rounded and stable adult.
Right. And no, I was going to say, but when did puberty become this,

(25:07):
this, this horrific thing?
It's, it just seems like, you know, yeah, puberty is a difficult thing,
but it's something that you work through and everything like that.
But now it seems like it's the most horrific thing in the world to go through
puberty, you know? and we're just, I don't know.
I don't know where I'm going with this, but I just, it's not bad.

(25:28):
You just gotta work through it, but they're making it seem like it's this horrible
thing to go through puberty. And it's the solution.
That is exactly why they're making it a horrible thing. They make,
you know, top-down, the...
Media who's run by these corporations who's run
by these bankers who you know submit to
the united nations and the world economic forum all the way

(25:49):
down they make what is good bad and what is bad good because of their specific
agenda to destroy this country to destroy the family to destroy the individual
yeah and so it's almost like you know if you're getting a lot of pressure to do one thing or another,
then you probably know that you need to do the exact opposite because there's

(26:12):
probably something not good about that if they're encouraging it.
Yeah. I just started reading James Lindsay's book, The Queering of the American Child.
It's really, really interesting. I just started with the first chapter of the
history of the queer theory, and it's amazing how far it dates back,
this whole movement that has been going on.

(26:34):
So it's a difficult read because I'm not I'm not a very good reader,
but it's a very, very insightful, insightful book to read. Yes. James Lindsay.
He's amazing. We just had him on recently.
Oh, good. And also he's an upcoming film that I appeared in with him called
Beneath Sheep's Clothing, which comes out July 26, 2024.

(26:56):
I just saw it in Phoenix. It was really, really good, by the way.
Oh, good. I was in Sweden during that or I would have been there because I live here in Phoenix.
So I was sad to miss that, but I did get to go and do a screening up in Utah.
And so, yeah, so I don't have to tell you what that's about.
This is about how Marxism moved
into the USSR and it parallels what's happening with America right now.

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And, you know, this is coming through all different kinds of categories and
all different kinds of initiatives.
CRT, critical race theory, and DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion.
They're using things like SEL, social emotional learning.
We got all these acronyms for all these new little frameworks that they're implementing

(27:41):
in order to really purge the American spirit, in order to purge American traditions, family values.
It's an attack on straight white men and women.
Its attack on christianity and and
really any religion and so you see the
only thing that went left is this very extreme and

(28:03):
anti-humanistic sort of
agenda so they can take over and
come and destroy us i mean we're watching the cancer this is the
cancer yes yeah yeah james levy
i listened to him he said it's the i believe i'm using it right
the renormalization of what's kind
of going on they're taking the normal that we're all used to

(28:24):
and they're making this the new normal is that is
that correct yeah oh yeah that's completely correct
you know we've got people nowadays talking about you know
with our open borders that there's just a great replacement going on
a replacement of the american with the non-american
with this illegal asylum seeking situation

(28:44):
and we know that this is really just implementing uh dangers
in society obviously not everybody comes across
as a danger but you know out of 20 million people you know
we are you know the voting laws are changing everything is
changing and it's not a normalization towards anything good
nothing that has ever ended well historically yeah

(29:05):
yeah and i think going back real quick to one of the things that i just thought
of right now is that i wish they with my son i wish they would have treated
my son in the proper steps you know like i always one thing I went to gen spec
in Denver a couple of years ago.
And when I took out of that, that conference is that they're trying,
if their child is supposedly has gender dysphoria, they're going to treat it

(29:29):
a, B and C and D all the way up, right?
They're going to, they're going to, they're not going to push medications or
surgeries on the child. They want to treat it properly.
And that's what I wish they would have done with my son. I wish they would have
just gone, okay, something's going on. We're going to start with a.
Now we're going to start with B, but, but instead they went from A to Z with my son, Robert.

(29:49):
And, and I wish they would have, I wish they would have treated the proper steps
because most doctors treat, if you have cancer, they're going to treat you A, B, C, D, and so forth.
Again, they didn't do that with my son. They went, Oh, this is what he wants.
This is what he's, and now we're all the way over at the end of the, you know, thing.
So I know that medications and surgeries, I know a lot of people think,

(30:09):
Oh, Adam, you're thinking extreme.
Well, I'm not thinking extreme. I know that's on the table for my son.
I know it is because they've talked about it. So I can not, not stress out about that.
And I know, you know, that's the, that's the net.
If it continues down the road that it's going with my son, those are the next
steps for my son is the medications and the surgeries.

(30:30):
So I've got six years to stop it or six years for somebody in the state to put
a federal ban on that because we see it 26 states,
26, 27 states have banned puberty blockers
and surgeries we now see the uk is banned
it and now they're criminalizing doctors i believe i'm right
on that they're criminalizing doctors and physicians

(30:51):
for for doing these type of surgeries and giving the medications so i wish the
united well why the united states is not on board all of the united states is
not on board with how the uk is now handling all this is is really to be honest
with you robert is really discouraging
it's really really, really discouraging to see where the United,
as much problems as we have here in the United States, you would think that

(31:14):
protecting kids would be the number one goal.
You would think that we see Chloe, we see Laura, we see all these detransitioners
coming out and saying surgeries and puberty blockers did not solve my problem,
but yet we're still prescribing and we're still doing the surgeries,
even though we know that they're not helping.
You know, Marjorie Taylor Greene
has got a bill that Congress hasn't even sniffed, looked or voted on.

(31:38):
And that would make a federal ban on surgeries and puberty blockers on minors.
Well, this is why, you know, there's so much distrust of politicians these days
because they're not doing the things that any common sense person would be doing.
It's just like there's a bug in their ear. And then we have, you know,
the numbing of the average mind who's like feeding off of this trash called

(32:02):
the mainstream media and this progressive narrative that to go in this destruction is progressive.
There's nothing progressive about it. But I see what's happening to you, to your child.
This seems like a hostile takeover, a take no prisoner sort of approach,
full of gaslighting, which is what can be more infuriating than ignoring common

(32:28):
sense and then telling you you're the problem while doing something nobody's
ever heard of or thought of as though it's a solution.
Right. It's not a solution. You don't treat any other mental condition like
gender dysphoria or body dysphoria.
But California doesn't. Yeah. California doesn't treat the mental illness.
They just put a small bandaid on it and say that they fixed it.

(32:51):
You know, California it's again, I'll say it's, it's all about the money being,
I mean, family court is the most corrupt court in, in, in our system.
It's just a revolving door. They always continue the cases, continue,
continue, continue. And,
And it just keeps feeding the family court monster of, I need more money. I need more money.

(33:13):
We need more money. We got to continue this three months down the road.
And then the father or the mother or the parents that are fighting for their
child is having to fork out more money and more money to protect their kid or
just to be able to pay to see their kid.
Family court, in my opinion, needs to be completely defunded and restructured,

(33:33):
completely restructured because they say they're there for the child or they
say they're there to unify the family, but they don't do that.
But when in fact they split the family even further apart, going into debt,
spending loads of money, a father not being able to see his kid and then having
to pay for it to see his kid.

(33:55):
You know, there are a lot of fathers out there that are not bad,
but they're being railroaded by the system.
And then they have to pay different supervised visitations. They have to pay
God awful amounts for, for, for child support.
I mean, I'm paying $1,400 a month for child support to a child that I don't get to see.
I'm paying, I'm paying. My son has got top-notch medical, top-notch dental and

(34:18):
top-notch vision through my work.
You know, I have to keep him on my insurance or if I don't, it's a violation.
Wow. They've got you basically funding their agenda against you.
Yes. That's, you know, when it comes to the attorneys, when it comes to courts
and, you know, even real estate professionals, everybody, when there's a separation.

(34:39):
You know, comes in like a vulture in order to divorcing couple or separating
couple or family problems.
And they all want to profiteer off it. Yeah. Even if that means driving a wedge
further between you and your child or your ex in order to, you know,
profiteer off of that. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, with my son's mother, it was always pulling teeth, Robert.

(35:03):
When we had our normal visitation schedule, it was always pulling teeth.
The visitation schedule was Wednesdays, Saturdays, and then every other weekend
I would have Aiden. But on Wednesdays.
It was so hard to get her to drop him off. Even though I was at work,
I set that up for the parents, my grandparents to spend time with their grandchild.

(35:24):
And anytime that she dropped them off, it was an absolute world war three.
Well, he's crying. Well, I understand he's crying, but he's going to get over
it. You know, he's going to get over
it. Well, I don't like him seeing him crying. Well, he's going to cry.
She would, he's kids, kids cry, you know?
And sure enough, she would drop him off about five minutes later.
I would text her, call my mom. Hey, how's Aiden doing?

(35:46):
Perfectly fine. But it was always the problem of giving up control of the motherhood.
Does that make sense to you? She always felt that if somebody else was watching
one of the boys or both of the boys, that she was less of a mother.
And I always told her, you're not less of a mother because you're having somebody watch the kids.

(36:07):
You just need, every mother needs a break from their kids. That doesn't make
you less of a a mother. That doesn't make you a bad mother.
It's normal to take a break from the kids. But she couldn't grasp that it was
okay for somebody else to watch the kids.
You know, I'm going through a very similar thing with my nephew right now and

(36:27):
my brother and his ex-girlfriend.
And he's got the three-year-old and they separated and the mother won't let him see.
And then every time, oh, he's crying, can't talk, the grandparents can't see.
So a lot of what you're saying is really reminding me of
what i'm going through the only difference which is a major difference is she's
not transing okay okay that's huge

(36:49):
but um i don't i don't know if i i can
if you want to talk i i want to read something to
you i i i've been i apologize i've been so busy i wanted to send this to you
and i don't even know if i can find it because it's been it's been so long ago
since i i posted this but basically it was a couple years ago my son's mother
wrote the private school that I had Aiden in.

(37:13):
Basically saying that I want everyone to meet.
The little boy that dresses as a girl. And she wrote this to the whole entire
school and basically saying, oh yeah, it says, dear Busy B Dragon parents, my name is blank.
I am Aiden's mother. I've had the pleasure of meeting a few of you,

(37:35):
but I'm sure that you all know about Aiden, the little boy that wears dresses.
Up until recently, that is what Aiden wanted to be known as, but that has changed.
Aiden's three years old at this time. Aiden has come out as transgender and
is ready for the world to accept her for who she truly is.

(37:56):
She fully identifies as female, uses female pronouns, and uses girls' restrooms.
All of Aiden's friends have been great supporters during her journey over the past two years.
She is so happy to be living in this true life and was all very acceptable of the continued support.

(38:22):
And that was when my son was three. She sent that to all the parents in the school.
And the only way I found out about it is that it was a concerned parent at his
school that hit me up on Facebook Messenger and said, Adam, I believe you have
a right to know exactly what's going on.
And that was the email that I received from her.
And I read that and I about lost it in the cab of my work truck. I broke down.

(38:47):
I had to have my supervisor come pick me up because I drive a really,
really large trash truck.
I was completely distraught. I had to have him
come pick me up and someone had to drive the drive the work truck
back to the yard and that's when I knew that it
had gone complete 360 on me and
there was no in my opinion there was no coming back from it
now that is devastating your story makes me

(39:09):
want to cry I'm sure there are people crying just imagining having to go through
this and you know for as nice as you've been to your ex-girlfriend and your
attempts you know to not speak ill of her with the exception of all of I think
that is also very strong of you because, again,
most people would absolutely have lost it on this person.

(39:32):
Obviously, you did lose it, which is totally, I think, appropriate.
I think somebody needs to say something to her, especially to others.
You know, it's Robert, one thing they don't talk about in court is that,
yeah, me and her got into verbal arguments and verbal fights,
you know, but the one thing that they don't ever tell people is that I always
walked away when the fights got to a certain point, I would always leave the

(39:55):
house, get in my truck and drive away. way. I would go to a friend's house. I would go back.
I would go to my parents' house, spend the night at one of their houses and
then come back in the morning.
But when, in fact, that was the worst thing I could have done because it,
it made things worse the next day.
It was always, Oh, you're leaving me. Oh, you're never coming back to me.
We're breaking up. You know, if you leave, that's a sign that you don't want

(40:18):
to be a part of this family. And I've always said, no, it's not that I don't
want to be a part of this family.
I just don't want it to escalate to a different level. And by me leaving the
situation, removing myself from this fight, it's better for everybody.
You know, and I get that, you know, biblically, it says it's better to live
in the corner of your roof than in a house with a contentious woman.

(40:39):
And we're always told as children, you know, walk away, walk away.
And if you don't have an option to
remove yourself you know then you have
to compete especially if you're you know with an argumentative
person or you find yourself in that situation especially if you're worried about
kids having to be exposed to it that's a very choppy situation to be in because

(41:02):
you know it eats you up either way and so i totally get that i've you know i've
been married 10 years the other 14 years So congratulations.
Thank you. So welcome. Yeah, thanks. So I get that that crap happens.
So but in this case, it looks like it's been totally weaponized everything that
you've done against you.
And even though your situation is not that different than anybody else's in life and in real terms.

(41:28):
So, you know, a lot of this makes me wonder about, again, back to the mother.
And, you know, of course, I assume that she loves her child very much,
but it does sound like she has some she's adapted this queer ideology into her
life where to even think to recognize this in a child is like even beyond where

(41:52):
a lot of trans activists are. Right.
And I think that's big. Like I said, I don't think if the therapist,
the doctors, the attorney and the judges weren't involved, again,
like I said, I don't think it would have steamrolled out of the control.
So I also feel that my son's mother has been brainwashed further down the road.

(42:13):
I feel that she has been told, well, you know, if you don't accept this,
like we hear in detransitioners or to the detransitioner parents,
they're going to commit suicide at some point in life.
And that was probably, I'm not saying that's happened, but if that did happen,
I know her and that would have been a triggering force to continually force

(42:35):
this even further down the road.
I think they scared her to push this even harder. And again,
I believe that she was brainwashed to the point where we're at now.
And I would even go as far as to suggest that the whole country has been brainwashed
to the degree that, you know, the world, to the degree that we're accepting...

(42:57):
Again, the mental health conditions of gender dysphoria and body dysmorphia
almost always accompanied by some form of autism, depression,
trauma, et cetera, et cetera.
And then you add the extra layers of indoctrination,
you add what is being normalized, which is really a sexualization of children,

(43:20):
and then the promotion of these medical treatments, Puberty blockers,
hormone replacement therapy, and gender reassignment surgery as a solution to a mental problem,
you've created a perfect storm of insanity being set into by doctors,
being cemented into the minds of people who trust the experts and can't think

(43:43):
for themselves and have lost touch with their value system.
Yeah, I think people have lost touch with reality in general.
I think that all the decisions that I see being made is not based on facts.
It's all being based off feelings and emotions. Well, I don't want to hurt this

(44:04):
person's feelings or, you know, when in fact everyone's feelings get hurt,
you know what I'm saying?
And that's in my case, this case has been nothing has been ruled on feelings and emotions.
No facts, because if they would have gone on the facts of the case,
they would have seen, well, yeah, this father got upset, but this father never hit the child.

(44:26):
Out this father never hit her this father is not
an alcoholic he's not a drug addict doesn't have a criminal record
those are the facts in this case you know what mr vina you probably shouldn't
yell at her you probably shouldn't have called her name but we're not going
to remove your child from you you're going to be able to see your son you know
it's feelings i'm so sick and tired of feelings and emotions when it comes to

(44:48):
my case and other cases and and and when we see in sacramento.
Rule on facts. That's what you're supposed to do. And I can't end on a court
hearing. You're supposed to rule on facts and evidence, not feelings and emotions.
That is really at the heart of this. And that is part of what is so gaslighting about all of this.
If we turn everything around and we say, you know, well, you know,

(45:11):
me speaking of children, not being born in the wrong body hurts your feelings.
Well, how about for me where you're, where you say children can be,
and in this case are born in the wrong body that hurts
my feelings right then you really see what
this is about it's about a form of self-centered
narcissism because it's not

(45:31):
about feelings anymore now it's about my feelings are
more important than your feelings if you go on their playing field right and
we see that in all sorts of other places like
you know what is a woman and we say saying oh a woman
is a an adult human female and then
they say oh no no a woman is anyone who feels like
a woman and this is where it starts to get really sketchy because

(45:53):
there's people identifying as animals inanimate objects
so you say what is a man whoever feels like a man what is a dog whoever feels
like a dog i mean if you keep the logic going to protect the same idea you know
what is a light bulb whoever feels like a light bulb i mean now where does it
stop yeah we're completely off the rails yeah i mean i read a case that south

(46:15):
carolina was going to put.
Litter boxes in the bathroom for the children's that
the kids that feel that they're they're an animal
like why why
why why i mean i'm not i'm
not the sharpest tool in the shed i'm not you know i'm not an
intellectual i'm not i'm not the smartest guy but i
can my i mean if you guys want some of my common sense

(46:37):
i'm willing to give you you know my
common sense cup is is is completely full and
i'm willing to give it to some of these people to to really see
what they're doing because you know you you just it it's getting out of control
man it really it it's getting maddening to be honest with you it is maddening
you know as far as i can tell the people at the very top of this whole thing

(47:00):
all the way up to the people who are pushing the instructions down to our daily
lives and what surrounds us, they have made a joke out of us. They are laughing at us.
They're laughing at what they've turned humanity into. They,
they're probably hosting meetings where they're watching these advocates and
watching these people who are pushing this and they're laughing their butts

(47:23):
off that people are so stupid.
And I, and I hate to, I hate to say it cause I don't consider myself as a judgy
person, but this is pure stupidity.
You know you are self-degrading yourself you're degrading
yourself from a degrading downgrading
yourself from a human down to an animal down to a rock down to a void if you

(47:45):
could i mean you can't get that is like regressive thinking this is not part
of an evolution this is a devolution yeah we are i think we are digressing as
a as a society you know i really truly do we're not social people anymore.
We're so plugged into the damn phones. We're so plugged into social media.
I think social media has, you know, in my case, it helped me,

(48:08):
you know, cause I was in a bad spot, you know, just making good morning videos
to my son. That's how all of this started.
So social media does have, it can work for the good, but I feel that 90% of
social media is just ruining the humans in general. You know, I re I really do.
I think we're degressing as a human in society yeah i

(48:29):
mean we have not just algorithms we have
these social sciences and social and these scientists and
these people with their agenda they're watching everything that's
said they're engaging in the conversation they're they're paying
influencers they're you know putting whatever message
they want to the top and suppressing whatever message they don't
want to the bottom or removing it completely they're running

(48:51):
cancel culture and they really are doing the social
engineering which is very subtly
it feels very natural because the way we're presented with
this information people who are presenting it like oh it's
all grassroots this is what the people want this ain't what the people want
this is not normal this is a few people who have some loose wires in their head

(49:12):
getting a microphone and everybody else being forced to shut up and listen yeah
do you think question for you do you think this i guess this trans movement and the stuff
that's being put into school, do you think that's hurt the LGB community from
what you guys have started back,
I guess, in the 60s?
Do you think it has really, really put a black flag over your guys' movement

(49:38):
or your guys' community at all?
Absolutely. And that's actually really at the heart of what Gays Against Groomers is all about.
All of this indoctrination, sexualization, and medicalization or mutilation
of children that's being done in the name of the so-called LGBTQIA plus inclusiveness
movement is ruining the support. It's ruining the movement.

(50:01):
It's ruining the purpose for the original gay rights civil activists.
We've been able to be gay married for 10, 15 years in some places.
We are able to walk outside without being stoned or ridiculed.
We have integrated with society, the churches have opened up their,

(50:22):
you know, hearts and minds to accepting all people.
You know, so-called both sides of the political spectrum have,
you know, it's not like...
You know, I don't face any discrimination whatsoever. I mean,
maybe if I go to a third world country or something like that,
but the only thing that gives people pause,
especially older people or people who are still have those traditional values

(50:44):
is what they're seeing, you know, when they think gay now, now they're thinking drag Queens,
you know, watching RuPaul in a kindergarten class, or now they're thinking,
you know, kids at pride parade, or now they think of kids wearing drag or why
looking at pornography books, you know, that are supposedly cartoon life experience
books, you know, that are really just sowing the seeds of perversion.

(51:04):
And so it has absolutely harmed us. And that is why it is so important that
us and any other group that we may find ourselves in that is participating along
the lines of this insanity.
And even if it's not this insanity, any other kind of insanity,
if you're not saying anything, that tacit agreement, that unspoken agreement,

(51:25):
just because you're not saying anything, It's taken for an agreement that is being tied to you.
So it's necessary that we all speak out and not assume that everybody knows
that we're not, you know, I'm a progressive, but I don't believe in all this other stuff.
But, you know, I guess, you know, some stuff will then say something or get
out of there because you are standing on a burning, sinking ship.

(51:47):
Yeah. And that goes with the gays too. It's like, don't sit there and be quiet.
If you're sitting at a gay bar and you're talking to your gay friends and they
start just either, you know, take up the right position or get away from them,
get out of that situation.
Don't sit there and get along with people just to have social niceties.
You will have much better friends and a much happier life if you socialize and

(52:12):
you hang out and you affiliate with people who are on the correct sides of these issues, as you see.
Yeah, and I'm so happy that Gays Against Screamers is on the forefront.
I mean, there's a lot of advocacy groups out there, but I think it speaks.
I think having Gays Against Screamers really, really out there on the forefront
and on the front lines of speaking out what they're doing to the kids is awesome. Awesome.

(52:36):
It really is because it speaks better from, I guess, if you want to say a straight
male speaking, I guess then they can label me as all the other things.
But when they when you guys do it, they can do that.
But you're like, wait a second. I'm in this community.
I'm just speaking out again for the for the kids and for the parents,
too, you know, that are that are fighting all this.

(52:56):
So I'm grateful that the Organization of Gays Against Groomers is out there
and really out there on the front lines for the kids and parents because we see the parents.
To getting hit hard. Yeah. You know, we definitely appreciate that.
You know, this is happening in every which area where their stereotypes aren't working.
You know, Joe Biden, for instance, saying, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black. Right.

(53:18):
And then, but if a black person wants to come and say, I'm voting for the other
candidate, whoever that might be.
And then now you've stereotyped me and you said that I can't because I'm black.
And this is a reverse form of racism. Or if you say, oh, because you're gay,
you have to be, you know, progressive or you have to be in support of this happening
at, you know, at schools or at pride parades with kids and all of that.

(53:41):
Now you've stereotyped me in a roundabout way.
You've slandered me. You've reduced me.
To this and you put me back into the chains
that we freed ourselves from you you want
to take away the independent thinking element and say this is
how you must think because you are this and they're doing that
to women and they're doing that to immigrants and they're doing that to every

(54:03):
demographic in order to shame people into the stereotypes so everybody's nice
and controllable and nobody's you know waking up their peers yeah i think that
i think this trans movement is really hurt women's rights.
I mean, I'm seeing it. I'm sure you're seeing it too.
I mean, again, where is everybody speaking up and protecting women from bathrooms.

(54:27):
From locker rooms, from, you know, like those are, should be their women's and
men's safe spaces when they go, when they go somewhere, they shouldn't have
to be in fear, but women are more in fear when they go to these, these public areas.
And we're allowing these, these, I guess, I
guess they're mentally ill people that believe that
there's something else and going into the women's locker

(54:48):
rooms i just don't understand how we as society have
thought that that's that's okay because i
i mean it doesn't take a rocket science to see that
it's it's it's that's horrible that that
people are not protecting women you know in
that situation correct yeah this is this
is going right into the schools it's going

(55:09):
into the gyms you know they got the what's that gym
i forget you know they're playing at fitness or
whatever you know right oh you know women you know men
can come into women's bathrooms you don't like it don't come here you know this
is all part of inclusive justice but when you see how the world's responding
you see the boycotts on you know bud light you see the boycotts on target you

(55:30):
know you see the boycotts on the tractor and supply i was shocked When someone dropped that story,
I was absolutely shocked about tractor supply.
I mean, just talk about, I guess, shooting yourself in the foot and not knowing
your demographic or not knowing your customer.
I mean, I just couldn't believe that when I saw that video, I was absolutely shocked.

(55:52):
And I'm still learning a lot about this. I still don't know 100% what a DEI is.
Thankfully, we have James Lindsay to teach us what all this stuff is.
So I'm still an infant in the infant stage when it comes to,
I guess, queer theory, DEI, all this other stuff.
So I'm slowly learning about all this stuff. But I think I'm just going to focus

(56:15):
on the queer theory and the gender ideology stuff.
I think that's all I can handle.
I mean, can you imagine? What are they going to go for next?
A trans steakhouse? A trans whiskey company?
I mean, this is like... Did you hit... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was going to say,
did you, I don't know if you saw that video of that radio show of that person

(56:36):
calling in that was a pedophile active activist.
And they're trying, I guess the lady was saying that they're trying to add the
P to the LGBTQ community.
Abbreviations, and they're trying to normalize pedophilia. I'm sorry,
what? I mean, they're...
That's a big, that's one of the unspoken or less spoken things,

(57:00):
but one of the most well-known parts of this whole thing is that this is leading
up to the normalization of pedophilia with the MAPS, M-A-P-S,
Minor Attracted Persons.
And they want to say, hey, you know,
kids can identify as any age they can identify as
attracted to older older 60 year old men can.

(57:21):
Identify as a 14 year old girl and you
know and they want to blur all these lines they really
want the innocence of the child to be considered a
a fable a legend that
you know is tied to some bigoted old you know patriarchal
way of thinking and they want the normalization
of sexual freedom for every being down to

(57:43):
an infant it's it's a pure evil like
how can you get more evil than you
know when you you think that not to get religious because i quote all
those sorts of things but it's better it's better for a
man to have you know to be thrown in the ocean with the millstone around
his neck then for what's going to come out upon
him if he's violating the innocence and offending

(58:04):
these children the way they're they're doing it and so that's
the bottom line evil almost anything can be you
know forgiven you know but when you get down to a
certain level you know even like our spiritual
texts tell you you have reached the bottom of the barrel people you
can't get really any worse than this you're better off
killing somebody in a certain way than

(58:27):
you know raping and molesting and assaulting
little baby innocent children and you know
i think what really gets under everybody's skin is we have all been
little children we all have experienced being innocent
being around adults maybe we've been
you had our feelings hurt maybe we've been offended maybe.
We've been assaulted you know physically sexually

(58:50):
and we know how that scars you because.
You have nowhere to go you have nobody to talk to
and so we know that is one of the worst things you can
do and yet like you said they are trying
to normalize that yeah yeah i just our children
are there again i it sounds so cliche but our children is
the our most innocent and and our future and i see what's going on is they're

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they're just absolutely destroying a whole generation of children destroying
a whole generation of children and i'm i i i want to look to the future and
see where we're going to be at in 15 years.
And what I'm looking at is not the most brightest star to see where are this
generation of kids and the future generations are going to be.

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I mean, it's scary to think about, you know.
Yeah it's crazy you know we got transsexualism now
we're going to train transhumanism and now we're like oh it's all
ai man is not relevant destroy humanity yeah
man is machine and you know joe rogan says
we maybe we should have ai around the united states and i was like whoa whoa
easy easy easy i don't know if we need a computer telling us i've heard what

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yeah i've heard joe rogan also say that ai computers have told us not to trust
them and that they will I'm surprised he would even say something so stupid, honestly.
But I think what I appreciate about one thing I appreciate Joe Rogan is that
he every almost every episode he brings up what they're doing to kids, you know, and we don't.

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There's a few people that talk about that, but we don't have enough Joe Rogans.
We don't have enough talking heads, big talking heads out there to really show people what's going on.
You know, we need more Joe Rogans. I like the Chicago Bears,
so I can't believe I'm going to say this, but even Aaron Rodgers said that what

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they're doing to kids is absolutely wrong.
And we need almost normal guys like that or normal women, but they have huge
platforms to come up and speak and say, this is absolutely wrong.
You know, if we would have had, we were trying to pass, protect kids here in
California that would keep boys out of girl spaces that would stop puberty blockers

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and gender surgeries on minors.
And we, and the other one was, well, parental rights, right?
From a grassroots, we needed 500 and a half thousand signatures to get it on
this year's ballot, right?
We, we got grassroots, no money. money
we ended up collecting 400 000 signatures for
that for that petition and that was all grassroots

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that was just normal moms and dads taking time
out of their weekend or the week to go sit in front of a mall or something like
that go to a gun store or go somewhere to collect signatures think about if
we would have had a joe rogan if we would have had some big name guys out there
women saying look hey folks this is what's going on in california we're gonna
we're gonna going to give you money,

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we would have been able to raise the five hundred and a half thousand signatures
and we would have got it on this year's ballot here in California.
And Aaron Friday, I'm sure I know she was on your on your show a couple of weeks ago.
She she probably said that we would have gotten that bill passed in California
because the polling looks so good.
But we need it's it needs to go from a grassroots and we need the big time people

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to help the grassroots out now.
I mean, we see the left is so damn organized.
They just funnel money into these people to get them to show up at these places.
They pay them to collect signatures or whatever they're doing,
but we don't have anybody on our side helping us out when it comes to protecting
kids and parents. I mean, the DOJ is...

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Labeling parents as terrorists now, you know, so that just tells you again,
but we need more people to help the grassroots out to help us here,
and especially here in California to protect kids and parents.
Absolutely. And Joe Rogan is a great guy by the way, I shouldn't have said his
idea was stupid, but that was kind of dickery.
And he has brought up gays against groomers. He knows what's going on.

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And, and we absolutely, that is very sad how much got done and how far that
could have gone with just a bit more support and a bit more money and some of those other things.
And, you know, those things need to be taken up again. Hopefully,
you know, retreading those steps will be easier the second time.
As long as people don't lose hope on things actually happening.

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I think that's what the other thing that we, we need, we need,
I think parents need a win.
I think, I think Californians, I'm just speaking for California because I've lived here 44 years.
Californians need some type of win when it comes to, to our kids because the
morale for parents, I believe is truly, truly, truly low.
You know, I think the morale for most Californians that have some type of head

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on their shoulders and some type of common sense, the morale is really low here
in the state of California.
And I was down in seal beach collecting signatures. And one guy goes,
you know, I'm going to sign your petition, you know, for protect kids,
but it's not going to go anywhere.
And just to let you know, Most people are sick and tired of writing down our
names on these petitions for something that's good, but then nothing ever happens out of it.

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So if we don't get some type of win, some type of morale boost,
the status quo is going to stay the status quo, if that makes sense to you. Yeah, absolutely.
We can't keep going without wins. Most people aren't as strong as a lot of people
who are in the fight, hook or crook, you know, till death do them part sort of thing.
We only got a minute left. Okay.

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I just want to point out, you are a member of the mom and dad army coalition.
They are an important movement. Go to mom, army.com, dad, army.com started by seek Smith.
She's a friend of the show and worked closely with our founder,
Jamie, Michelle, the founder of gays against groomers in order to found that.
And they're doing amazing things. And so if you could just take a minute and

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just plug your social media or how people can reach you website,
anything like that. Yeah.
You can get me at Adam Vena, Adam.Vena on Instagram.
I do all my posting on Instagram. So that'd be A-D-A-M.
Last name is spelled V-E-N-A.
And starting July 1st, I will be starting my own podcast.
It'll be the same thing. It'll be the Adam Vena show. We're going to focus heavily

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on parental rights, kids, fathers, boosting the, I guess you want to say the alpha male.
Type stuff i'm gonna have a guys on to talk about kids
and hunting kids and fishing some of
my biggest things is golf hunting and guns so i'm gonna
i'm looking for people to talk about those
things but intertwine the the kids aspect into

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it and we'll touch on some touchy subjects
also but i want to kind of break it up
to some fun stuff some serious stuff it can't
be you know all serious so those are the main places that
you can get a hold of me is on on instagram i'm
on x a little bit or twitter but not very much excellent well
we need more alpha male channels i'm a

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beta male can't help it that's what i am no but you're doing you're doing you're
doing excellent work robert i mean doing these podcasts and shedding light on
what exactly is going on is is isn't is alpha male you know you know because
it's not easy it's not easy doing what speaking out against
some of the horrific stuff that's going on. So that takes a lot of courage.

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I appreciate that. And I absolutely appreciate that you're taking what you're
experiencing in your personal life and trying to parlay this into a warning
for the rest of the world.
Because that's one thing they want to do is to keep you quiet so they can persecute you.
And then you just suffer in silence. And that is not the way to go.
No, not at all. So yeah, well, hopefully we'll have you on again soon.

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