October 3, 2024 • 59 mins
Welcome to the Dark Side of the Rainbow. Join host Robert Wallace in this Gays Against Groomers production as he engages in a powerful conversation with Shiry Sapir, a passionate advocate for children in Arizona. Sapir, who previously ran for superintendent of education, continues to lead initiatives to protect children from various threats, including the trans agenda.
In this episode, Sapir discusses the importance of parental rights and the need for school choice legislation. She highlights the troubling trends in public schools, such as the indoctrination of children and the erosion of parental authority. Sapir passionately argues for the preservation of childhood innocence and the necessity of empowering parents to direct their children's education and medical decisions.
Wallace and Sapir also delve into the broader societal implications of these issues, touching on topics like critical race theory, social-emotional learning, and the impact of these ideologies on the military. They emphasize the importance of a strong moral foundation and the need for parents to unite in the fight to protect their children.
For more information about Shiry Sapir's work and how to get involved, visit shirysapir.com. Follow her on X at @shirysapir.
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Welcome to the Dark Side of the Rainbow. I am your host, Robert Wallace,
and this is a Gaze Against Groomers production.
Today, we have Shiri Sapir on with us. She's an advocate for children in Arizona.
She, just a couple of years ago, ran to be superintendent of education here in Arizona,
and she continues running coalitions and initiatives to protect children in
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every aspect of their life, including but not limited to the onslaught from
the LGBTQIA plus trans agenda.
How are you doing, Shuri? I'm doing great, Howard. How are you? Fantastic.
Well, it's an honor to have you on. You're a good friend.
You're an amazing advocate for children. Anybody can go to shurisapir.com.
That's S-H-I-R-Y-S-A-P-I-R.com.
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And you can learn more about her initiatives. As it says right across the top
of her page, this is a rescue mission to protect the kids. It's that simple.
I mean, they are coming after our children.
And sadly, they've used the platform, the LGBTQ platform, to completely twist
the truth, which is innocence is something that we must allow kids to have until they are adults.
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That's something we cannot take away from them for no cause.
So he took the truth, he twisted it, and now they made it so that it's not politically
correct anymore to correct people who come to children and ask them for their
pronoun or their sexual preference when they're seven or eight.
And that's where us mama bears decided to rise up and say, no, no more.
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You can't keep that lie going and we'll let it be. We're not politically correct.
We don't want to be politically correct. We must protect our children.
And that's what we're trying to do. I love that. That's so amazing.
There's not many things as inspiring these days as seeing parents rising up
and taking an active role in protecting their kids in an area that they should
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have never had to have been on the front lines of.
You should be able to trust the schools, but you can't anymore.
So you've helped to move forward different types of legislation and policies and initiatives.
School of choice was a big thing. Can you tell us about how you pushed that forward?
Yes. Thankfully in Arizona, we got very lucky and hopefully this will not change,
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but we got universal ESA empowerment scholarship accounts to pass legislation.
And we have it now as a, an option in Arizona.
And the reason that we push for that is very simple and logical.
If you You as a school going to push propaganda and dogma that we are against,
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then we want our kids educated. We have to have options.
It's that simple. If I can't homeschool because I'm busy as a mother in my business,
then I want to have other options.
And for those who object that, it's obvious that they have an agenda because
they want to capture this captive audience within their walls and brainwash
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them and demoralize them.
So school choice, to me, was the most logical thing to pursue because then we
don't have to fight you, the school.
You do whatever you want to do. If parents decide that they want their seven-year-old
to be asked about their sexual preferences, that's great.
Send them there. But other parents who want to protect their children,
in a sense, have options.
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So we got that passed with the Republican majority here in Arizona.
And sadly, a lot of the Democrats are doing everything they can to take that
away because they know that parents are now moving in groves away from the public schools because,
specifically because of this LGBTQ and restroom issues and all these other things
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that parents just don't want to have to deal with in the schools.
And I think hopefully it's going to happen more, you know, countrywide.
We need that in a lot of other places, but I think it really is up to the voters
to make sure that they're voting in people.
And I tell that to everyone who wants to listen, you know, a lot of people are
one single issue voters, right?
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It may be abortion, it may be taxes, whatever the case may be.
This year and in the next few years, I think we all need to come together as
the one single issue and it's our children.
So it doesn't matter if I disagree with you on abortion or if I disagree with
you on any other issue gone, you know, Second Amendment, whatever the case may be.
When it comes to children, we all need to be unified behind the idea that we need to protect them.
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And at least in the next couple of cycles, if we elect people that understand
that, that will push for school chores, that will push to protect children,
we may actually maintain a sane and honest and moral society.
So that's why we're pushing for school chores. That's why everybody should be
pushing for that in their states.
And hopefully once we get that settled, it's going to be a lot harder for them
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to continue to push that agenda because they know, hey, Shiri is going to walk away with her children.
Maybe we just need to tone it down a bit. And that's what we're trying to achieve.
You know, you raise an interesting point. You know, the single issue voters.
I think a lot of times get had because they take an issue like abortion or they
take an issue like some kind of social justice cause,
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which is really used as a Trojan horse in order to get in a bunch of country
destroying, morality destroying policies in place.
And when it comes to the schools, as you were saying, you know,
people are leaving the public schools in droves. I think on your website,
as of 2021, you were seeing it was 38,000 children had left the school.
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And I'm sure that has gone up a lot. It's now 20,000, 80,000.
So before ESA, before universal ESA passed, which was about less than two years ago or went into effect,
we went from about 11,000 children on ESA, which were primarily special needs
and other specific reasons That's why they were able to receive those funds
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separate from the public schools.
And now we have close to 80,000 within a year and a half.
So this message is loud and clear. And that's why they're so afraid of because
they know that when the parents have the option, they're taking that option. They don't want that.
And that's why they're fighting so hard to take away ESA in Arizona and not
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to pass it in other states.
You know, when it comes to the parents' bill of rights.
This is something that you discuss on your website also.
Can you go into the details of that? Why do parents need a Bill of Rights?
How is it empowering to them? And what should they learn from that?
It is shocking to me that in a distant society, we even have to spell that out
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and put it into statute, right?
I mean, I gave birth to these children.
They cut my stomach in order to take them out of my body.
I created them. Me and God, if you believe in God, if you don't believe in God, that's fine. It's you.
But it's definitely not a principal or a superintendent in a school.
They for sure were not part of that creation.
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So again, sad that we even have to spell that out. But since we have.
Although the parents will have rights to say, hey, parents have the right to
direct the education of their children.
You know, if I have a specific religious preference, and this is a free country,
we're supposed to be able to exercise our freedom of religion.
And if I have specific morals and worldviews,
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I should be able to put my children in institutions that align with those worldviews
because I cannot teach something at home and then send them to our adversaries
and enemies of those ideas and have them preach something completely different
to our children. Not because we're close-minded.
Sure, they should be aware of a lot of other religions or a lot of other worldviews,
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but the schools have taken it upon themselves to brainwash and indoctrinate,
not just tell them, hey, there's other things out there.
Just know they are drilling our kids with those ideas that are against mine.
So that's a problem. That's why I should have my parents' Bill of Rights.
When it comes to medical decisions, this was specifically important and created,
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that's why that put the seed in me to run for office, was the entire gaslighting
of COVID and the masks and the vaccine mandates and keeping kids for years at
home on Zoom away from their children,
away from human contact, away from a classroom.
Room, in some cases, staying home to get more of the abuse and other issues
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that I had at home, where schools might have been the only escape they had in
the day away from the horrible realities at home.
So all of this was done, psychological effects, drug use, suicide, no proms.
There were so many issues that were all because of the schools deciding and
politicians decided to take away the rights of parents to decide all medical
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decisions on behalf of their children.
So that's another part of the statute in Arizona that is extremely important.
I think it was overridden quite a bit throughout COVID.
The school should have not been able to keep the kids at home.
They should have not been able to require vaccines or masks for the children, but they did.
So now we're also seeing the issues of transitioning children, right?
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The hormones that they're giving unbeknownst to the parents,
some cases around the country, they actually perform surgeries on these children
without the parents' consent, not to mention abortions.
And this whole idea of the whole child, whole community, it's vastly accepted in California.
California, the idea that you can have medical facilities in the schools,
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you know, it used to be that a nurse could not even give Tylenol to a child
without my consent, right?
Now they can cut off the breast of my child without my consent.
How did we go so far so quick within a matter of a few years to where society
should be sitting silent and say, yeah, sure, you can cut off vital organs of
my child without me knowing because they want and they know better than the parent,
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because the parents are so dumb and outdated and, you know, backwards.
All of that has to stop.
It has to stop immediately, actually. I can't even understand how we are having
this conversation without just, it's like, and I've talked to a few detransitioning kids, like the.
Consequences of those decisions of these children that their brain is not even developed,
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right, until 25 is so crucial and so detriment to their wellbeing later on in
life that I just can't understand how parents are standing by and saying,
we're going to give the school.
The right to make this decision. I sit with legislatures, even here in Arizona,
who said, well, but if a child is pregnant and she's too afraid to tell her
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parents, she should be able to come and talk to her teachers about that.
And they should be able to help her out.
It's like, no, you can't. If my child is pregnant, it's 15, I would like to know.
If I'm going to be mad at her or punish her or whatever, I'm going to handle
it at home. That's our issue.
But they've entered for that arena and we need to get them out of that arena as quickly as possible.
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And that's something that I don't understand what parents, and there's many,
but I understand how these parents are just saying, no, we're going to relinquish that right.
And that's something we need to fight for. So that's in a nutshell,
the Parents' Bill of Rights, very crucial issues, medical worldview and morals,
and of course, the type of education.
You know, I think one of the points that you just hit on, which is so important,
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is the basis for people's morality.
And this is, I think most people would agree, this is a form of spiritual warfare.
And our country does have a separation of church and state.
But what I think people conflate and fail to realize is that points more towards
not having a theocracy, not having a government ruled by religion.
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It doesn't mean that you don't have the right to practice your religion.
It doesn't mean that you don't have a right to make your decisions based on
your morals, based on that.
And so, you know, there are a lot of people who are feeling like,
oh, it's the Christian right who are attacking, you know, the child's right
to development and separation of church and state.
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And so I think it's important that people have that moral foundation,
of course, or some kind of moral foundation.
Or they will fall into the religion of this cultural Marxism,
of the LGBTQIA plus alphabet mafia.
So the separation of state and religion was always there to protect the church, not the state.
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It was there to make sure that there is no religious prosecution by the government
and not necessarily the religion.
And what you said is true to some extent, but the main idea was,
let's make sure that we're not going to have prisoners being sent to prison
because of certain religion that they're practicing.
And that's what happened at that time. That's in the Federalist Papers.
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So, of course, that was just like everything else, completely misconstrued and
told to the public that is not very educated to begin with right now,
that this is how things are.
And it's not true. So we live in America.
This is supposed to be the freest country in the world where you should be able
to practice just about anything, including being an LGBTQ community member.
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You can express yourself however you want to express yourself.
You want to be a drag queen show star?
Great. But to take that drag queen star and bring her to the library,
to the community library, to read books that are inappropriate or appropriate,
but with how they look in front of five-year-olds, that's where that freedom cannot maintain.
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You can be a dark queen star in the club or where adults only are allowed,
but you can't take it to the public domain and say, now this is going to be
acceptable by you parents.
And it's amazing because I see some parents literally coming and cheering and clapping.
And these ladies or men or whatever you may want to call them are wearing clothes
that I will not wear in front of my children.
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Why would I have a stranger wearing this kind of clothes in front of my children?
But all of this conversation, I feel like we always have to defend ourselves, right?
And we need to make ourselves explain and defend why we're thinking the way we're thinking.
It's as if, again, we're some sort of dinosaurs or homophobes. And you're my friend.
I've had gay friends my entire life.
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I'm not a homophobe. I have no phobia from LGBTQ community whatsoever.
Not at all. I'm not afraid of them. I'm not against them. I just don't want
any of this to come in front of my... My son is nine-year-old. my daughter is 11.
I have a six-year-old son as well. They are so young and innocent.
Why would I have any stranger come and talk to them about sexuality of any kind?
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Why would I want that? Even if you're straight, even if you're straight,
I want you to come to my child, to my daughter, and talk to her when you're
a 30-year-old man and ask her when she's 11, how are you feeling about this, that, or the other?
That's the kind of conversations that they are saying, you're going to let us
happen to your children and you're going to be okay with it. And we're not.
And it has nothing to do with my religion. It has nothing to do with me being
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ultra-Orthodox or ultra-conservative or none of that. I'm just a mother to young children.
We need to continue with that message that our fight, just like your fight,
and I so appreciate Gays Against Rumors, because your fight is double important
because you are them as they're trying to annex you to their agenda because you're not, right?
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But just by virtue of being LGBTQ, but you're saying, no, this has to stop.
Just like your shirt beautifully says, let kids be kids.
This is all we're saying. Let kids be kids. And that's the message.
And if we can get people to rally behind that idea, and especially the LGBTQ
community, when they understand we're not against you, we're not hopeful,
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we want you with us because we need you to draw the line and say.
We're going to protect these children too.
If we all come together, I think we can make a difference.
Because if we don't, we're going to see a lot of mental issues for sure,
but a lot of, you know, pedophiles taking advantage of this situation.
And sadly, we have a lot of pedophiles in the school, you know,
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arena just because they're going to where they want to pray, right?
I mean, it would be a normal, I mean, not normal, but it would be a pretty standard
practice for a pedophile to say, I'm going to become a coach or I'm going to
become a school teacher because I can be around kids that I like to look at, right?
So that's where a lot of them are. I'm not saying all teachers are going to be pedophiles.
I'm not saying that at all. But I'm saying if we're going to allow this to happen
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in the schools, they're going to say this is where we're going to be attracted
to work because now we can do a lot of things that back in the day,
you know, all eyes would be on us and we'll never be able to get away with it. Absolutely.
You know, like you were saying, even beyond any sort of, you know,
higher moral or spiritual virtue, there is a primitive protection module in a parent.
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You know, they don't have to be taught anything by anybody who want to keep
their kids safe. That is something that is instinctual.
And so when we attack parents and we call them homegrown terrorists,
you know, for coming to the school boards and things like that,
we're attacking the most primitive responsibility and impulse in somebody who
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bears a child and invalidating that.
And it was put there, you know, in our creation, in this whole process in order
to keep us safe and help us propagate and protect us from...
Predators. And like you said, these predators are going to infiltrate places
that are supposed to be safe spaces for kids.
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That's the most logical thing for them apparently to do.
And we're seeing so many cases of teachers and others taking advantage of that position.
Exactly. But as you said, as you described this process,
we've been under attack as humans and societies now for the last few decades,
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where they try to demoralize us and wash off.
As you said, some instincts that are primitive, that are innate within us.
They try to wash off values that, again, the 10 commandments should be something
that everybody would say, yeah, we should follow that. Don't kill, don't lie, don't steal.
Pretty basic, right? They have taken that away from the public arena by law,
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you know, years ago, decades ago, they didn't want that to be showing in the
public space as if there's something wrong with telling children or humans of all kinds,
hey, these are kind of 10 things that you should not be doing.
That was the beginning of the process that we're seeing right now.
When they banned reading the Bible
in the schools and pray, they wanted to take God out of the equation.
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And again, you don't have to be religious to to accept what I'm saying right
now, they wanted to take God or the higher power or some higher authority that
is looking at you and keeping you in check, right? That's what religion is.
Some say, oh, it just puts fear in you. Well, fear like that might be good for
your own good too. You don't want to end up in prison doing wrong things, right?
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So there are some things that you should be able to follow, pretty basic.
They took that away and say, we're not going to have a society that is adhering
to those concepts, right?
Whether it's religion or just rule or law or just moral compass,
right? You should not be cheating.
You should not be stealing. They took that away.
And in the process, in the last few decades, they put laws to support that.
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They've changed rules and policies in the name of liberty and progressiveness and freedom.
There is no freedom of speech when you go into a Christian baker and say,
I want you to have a cake that has, you know, whatever written for a gay marriage.
There are thousands of other bakers in the world, in the country.
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Why do you have to go to someone that is such a big deal for them?
You know, if this is a big deal for someone, just let them be.
But they're saying, no, no, no. If you're not going along with us,
then you must be canceled. You must be sued.
You must be. So where does that end when we have a society that doesn't put
boundaries between one, you self-wishes, self-world views, and their freedom
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to act upon them, and other people just imposing their ideas and their wishes on them.
This has been a slow process. This hasn't happened in the last five years.
We are just now suddenly awake.
I have to thank COVID for that because it was so evident that they were coming
after us and suppressing us in ways that this country should not accept or the
world should not accept that we started to fight back. But this has been in
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the process for a long time.
And they've completely blurred the boundaries between wrong and right, between good and evil.
That's why you have, you know, satanic clubs in the schools.
Why in the world would you have a satanic club in school? I'm not talking about
have a non-religious, you know, club in the school where they preach,
you know, just evolution and they don't talk about God.
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If that's where you want to put your kid with your consent, right?
The parents should have consent to all these clubs, which they don't, by the way.
Send them there. But why have we jumped all the way to, let's talk about Satan?
That's where it's like, hey, we got to stop this. This is wrong.
And slow process, that's where we're at right now. And as parents,
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again, they don't want us to feel that, hey, I'm going to protect my child.
So how do you stop that from a parent? You slowly, through a long process,
make it, you know, unpopular,
unattractive, unacceptable to say certain things, to fight certain things,
because it's for, you know, if you're not going to put a mask on your child,
then you can make my child sick.
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If you're not going to let, you know, LGBTQ ask for a pronoun of my child,
of your child, then how is that going to make my child feel in the classroom?
If he wants to be asked for a pronoun, they want to be called.
You know, so they're making it to where you're so uncomfortable in your own skin.
And we are because we want to appease. It's just the human nature.
We want to appease. We want to be included. We want to help.
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But that's where they were able to cross that line and kind of blur it.
And now we're just trying to erase that blurriness and sharpen back that boundary
and say that boundary exists.
I'm going to let it go away. And that's the fight that we're in.
You know, that is so true.
What you were hitting on there is there is such hypocrisy in what is being imposed on us.
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For instance, in the realm of free speech, like with the cake you were mentioning,
it's free speech for me to say, you know, go, you know, congratulations,
you know, gays for getting married.
And that is free speech for them. But then they want to compel that speech into somebody else.
So now the baker, for instance, is like, I'm being compelled to use my speech
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in this way for this other person.
And, you know, I'm for gays, you know, getting married. I'm gay married.
But I totally get and respect and hope someone would be able to retain their right to disagree.
And we're seeing that in all kinds of ways.
The subversion of speech, the tricky turning around of arguments.
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And I don't think people realize that you can be just as clever with your arguments
and reframing things as they are in order to deconstruct what they've done or in order to,
if we find ourselves in some weird compromising place,
in order to bring ourselves where we want. I mean, that's really what's done.
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If one side says something, the other side just reframes it and says it the
other. And that's the whole problem with the emotional argument,
is we have people who are emotionally charged.
They say, you hurt my feelings, and so you can't say that.
And in a constitutional republic, as what we have right now,
or supposed to have, a republic if you can keep it, as Ben Franklin said,
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we have a government of laws, law and order.
And what they frequently said is we're in a democracy.
We're not in a democracy. We're not. And we hear that from both sides.
A democracy is a government ruled by mob law.
You have inalienable rights. That means they cannot be alienated from us.
Okay. They're inherent to us. And what we have right now is a popularity contest
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as to which of these inalienable rights we're going to lose this week.
Right. And it's exactly that. And what's beautiful about all of this is that
we think that they are the majority, but they're not.
They're very loud. They're well-funded. These are organizations that are funded by the billions.
And sadly, they hold the most important organizations that we have taken over our lives, right?
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It's the media, social media, a lot of the government, now the public schools.
So we feel like we are a minority.
But when you talk to most parents, most grandparents, the most people without
children, you don't have to have children to want to protect children.
They feel that it's pretty reasonable to ask to maintain the innocence of a
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child until they grow up and they can make their own decisions,
such as cutting vital organs out of their bodies, take hormones that are...
Having, you know, ramifications on their body and their well-being and their mind and so forth.
So we're not the minority, but we're not as loud because we've been accommodating.
Again, I initially, when this all started, especially with the LGBTQ,
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I felt that I shouldn't be speaking up so much because I may be,
you know, I may sound like I'm against LGBTQ, which I'm not.
And I I didn't know how I can make my argument about my children.
Hey, don't come to my child and ask them for their pronoun.
Don't come to my child and ask them what's their sexual orientation.
Don't tell my child that pink is for everyone. I tell my boys, pink is for girls.
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That's what I taught them since they were young. That's my prerogative.
That's what I want to teach them.
When they grow up and my boy's going to wear a pink t-shirt, good for him.
But when he's five, I still, as a parent, have the right to say that to him, right?
They tell me, no, if you do that, that you're a bigot, you are a hater.
No, I have friends that are gay.
I have nothing against them, but I was not sure how to go about it.
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But when it came to this full-fledged assault on kids,
they have administrators in the schools that actually have documents that we've
publicly requested and we have them, where they actually have the name of a
child for administrative use only.
Name of a child, what's their pronoun, preferred pronoun, out and whether the parent knows or not.
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So once we got a hold of these kind of documents, we realized that they really
don't care about what we say and how we feel about this.
They're going to do these things behind our back. And they do, they're doing that.
They have dead names here in Scottsdale, Arizona, in the school,
they have dead names, meaning a child's name is Robert and he goes in and he wants to be Jennifer.
He's called Jennifer in the school, but the parents don't know that.
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So I would like to know if the name that I've given my child is somehow changed.
And this is not a nickname, right?
This is a child saying, this is what I want to be called. And the school's saying,
we're going to call you that and we're not going to let your parents know. This is just wrong.
I think those rights that you were talking about are alive and well,
and they're worth fighting for.
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And it's tricky because they are experts of language construction, right?
They say things and it makes you pause and think, well, am I wrong?
Am I saying something wrong? Am I against the right ideas?
But we're not. So we need to deconstruct the construction of language and come
out and say loud and clear what is right and what is wrong. wrong because it cannot be both.
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Nothing can be both. I'm not saying it's wrong to be gay. It's right to be gay.
If that's what you want to be, it's wrong to bring it to children under the
age of 18 in any kind of way.
Now, if a child feels that they are gay and that's how the family,
you know, the family understands that they support it or they don't support it, it doesn't matter.
That's something that needs to be worked out individually, but you can't come
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and say, well, because somebody might feel gay, we're going to open all the
restrooms right now and allow boys to go in girls' restroom in the school where
they're getting dressed.
These girls are getting dressed in those locker rooms. I mean, can you imagine?
And I remember meeting when I was campaigning, I met a girl in South Arizona
and she said, you know, I was getting dressed in the locker room and the coach
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was standing and staring at me. She was maybe 12.
And she said, I didn't know who to talk to about this.
You know, so when you open that door to allow any men into that area,
then you are creating yourself a lot of problems.
A lot of boys that are just boys, they want to be funny.
They're curious. They want to check on these girls. They may not be gay at all.
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They find themselves more and more going into there because now it's allowed.
And that's always saying, hey, we just want to protect it. If somebody wants
to have one restroom that is for both, then great.
That's fine. But I want that my daughter will be able to go to a restroom that
is only with girls if that's what she feels comfortable.
It's like putting a condom machine in middle school. Why would you do that?
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Why would we bring in sexuality on steroids in front of these kids when we are
trying to preserve their innocence?
Sense, not because again, because we're backwards, we're ultra religious,
we're, I'm a girl, I know how dangerous it is for a girl out there.
I know how dangerous it is for a boy, by the way, even more so with pedophiles
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out there, they like them even more.
This is not something that we want to allow to happen.
We don't want this kind of traumas. You can't recover from that.
These kids can never come back from these kind of traumas. It's our job to protect them.
That's all we're Yeah, you raise some more excellent points there.
You know, when it comes to the bathrooms, all it takes is an arbitrary verbal
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declaration and gender fluid.
So today I feel like a girl, so I'm going to go on the girl's bathroom and you
get away with anything that way. And then, you know, on the other hand,
we have the gay proliferation movement.
And that's really what this is about, proliferating, making more gays.
You know, now they're saying somewhere around 20% or 40% of Gen Z identify somewhere
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on the LGBTQIA plus spectrum, which they've got such a broad umbrella under queer, you know. Yeah.
And this is, you know, this is all done like, you know, in the cash report,
it's discussed like, where's all this, where's this explosion of trans identifying
or queer identifying youth coming from?
And it's, it's more than just a social contagion. This is being implemented from the top down.
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Robbie Starbuck in his film, The War on Children describes the Hollywood concept
of the mere exposure effect.
It's probably more of a psychological concept. and this is
just if you put anything you can just throw crap on a wall
and there's going to be somebody clings to it somebody's going to embrace it
and and elaborate on it and so
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these themes are verbally spread they're spread in social media they're spread
through oh one of your classmates gets infected with this idea i'm a dog now
all of a sudden it's in my head and you got that whole thing going and we're
and it's really installing mental illness and that can be spread merely with
an idea, merely with the confusion,
with the body dysmorphia and the gender dysphoria.
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It's like, oh, I don't like my body. My body's wrong. Or maybe I'm feeling a little feminine.
Maybe that means something. Maybe I'm a lot feminine or vice versa.
This is being spread in order so that the parents can't really fight because now it's instilled.
The kids are fighting for it on their right to be sick.
Exactly. And it's so right what you're saying.
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It's It's really merely just an idea that they're putting out there in just kids' minds.
And these kids, we were all young. We were all teenagers. It's such a confusing time.
Anyways, there's so many questions. You're changing physically.
They may not be your best years as far as how you look, right?
All these hormones, you know, you change.
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This is a prime time to get somebody who is so vulnerable to say,
I don't like my body. I don't like how I look.
I don't like that I'm not being asked to the prom. I don't like that.
I don't have a boyfriend or a girlfriend.
Maybe I should be on the other side because maybe they will accept me.
Maybe I'm more attractive to them.
All of this confusion that has nothing to do with just inherently be gay,
like yourself and others, that something in the process that whenever you found
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it, but you found it solidly, right? You knew, right?
That's different than just 25%, according to the UCLA, 25% of the children in
California don't identify as the gender that they were born in. That's one out of four.
That sounds like a lot. You know, I'm looking at my.
Classmates i'm 45 throughout my you know throughout my
years and and even the mill you know the military a lot
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of them that we knew were gay then and there were very few i mean i can probably
count them in two hands the entire from from first grade to you know i was the
time i was 20 they're gay one came out very later much later in life but that's
it it's not like 25 percent of us suddenly said,
yeah, no, we want to be something else. No.
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So what changed in this generation that is so vast, right? Something changed.
What is it? It's the influence. It's the brainwashing. It's the making it cool
to be coloring your hair purple and saying, I don't identify as anything.
I met someone and she says, my son, he's dating a girl who's identifying as a boy.
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And I said, do they realize that they're just in a heterosexual relationship?
Like the fact that she's identifying as a boy and he's dating her,
it doesn't mean that he's gay because he's with a female.
It doesn't mean that she's a boy because she's dating a man,
right? So they're in a heterosexual relationship, but they're trying to make it so what? Cool?
Or what is that? It doesn't make any sense. He's not really attracted to a man
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or he would go with a man. And she's not really attracted to a female because she is with a man.
So that tells you that it's just, it's silly and And it's ridiculous.
And it's just confusing to all of us. Now, I suddenly have to go around and
be sued if I address someone as a he or she because of what they look like and
they don't feel like it that day.
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And now my compelled speech is to say exactly how they feel that day,
which I may not be able to say from their physical appearance,
but I offended them. And now I can be sued.
And by the way, I know people that got fired for that, coffee shops and others,
when they They said, you know, they referred to someone as what they thought
they were physically, and it wasn't the case, and they got fired.
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And that's going to just get worse and worse. The more they're dealing with
Title IX and other, you know, the more it becomes the law of the land,
the more issues we're going to have as employers, as customers, as everything.
And kids too in school, you know, they are taking kids out of the classroom
to the principal's office and say, you need to refer to this child with this pronoun.
And sometimes you don't know, you don't know what they are because they're one
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thing today and they're one thing, you know, the next day. So all of that is
just, again, 25% of the kids, 30% of the kids, 40% of the kids,
that's a high number. That's a number that has to do.
Now, back in the day, you would have torn jeans as a fed or whatever.
Now, it's taken to the next level. Now, they're giving them hormones.
The second some child says, I think I may not be what I am, they're pumping them with hormones.
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Slow down your horses. There's time for hormones. They can do it later on after
they're 18, 19. Let's make sure that this is not just some social experiment.
This is not some confusion. They don't have other issues.
And at that time they can start changing and do what they need to do.
Don't start it so young. That's what we're saying basically.
And that is unacceptable to them because we are not accepting and we're hating
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our children and our children cannot talk to us.
They cannot talk to us because you're talking to them, because you're taking
them to the side and saying, hey, you have issues with your parents.
And I can tell you, counselors go around the schools and that's where they're
infusing the schools with counselors right now, not with school officers,
not with good teachers, but with counselors. Why?
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Because they know there's a lot of behaviorism and psychology that they've learned
to bring their knowledge to how they're executing They're executing their plan.
They're bringing all these counselors in and they're asking kids for no reason
during lunch, do you have any issues with your parents? Is everything okay at home?
Every child, it's not normal if a child is not going to say I have problems
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at home with their teenagers, period.
I'm sorry. We all had problems with our parents in our teenage years.
It's part of growing up. You're becoming a rebel. You don't like what they say.
You want to dress how you want to dress. You want to stay up late at night. It's normal.
But they're tapping into that and they're making the children feel as if their
parents are the worst thing that ever happened to them when it's just a normal
teenage process that they have to go through.
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That's when they tap into them when they're so vulnerable and that's when they
change their minds and hearts. And that's what we need to, again, stop.
So true. True. They are putting a wedge between the children and the parents
and the kids love it because it puts them in charge.
And of course the parents hate it because now they're not just losing control
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over the growth process and the trajectory of their child, but they're actually becoming an enemy.
And in a lot of ways, a lot of times they're losing their children.
You know, especially if little Johnny becomes little Sally, you just killed Johnny to them.
Like their whole life has changed these kids are playing
off the notion like they feel like they're raging against
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the machine by denying the binary you
know like oh if i just say i'm a girl you know that's gonna mess you guys up
and they don't like that so i'm gonna do it and a lot of it's done in spite
and they don't realize they're creating like a split personality in themselves
and it's gonna come it's gonna come back and get them the most vulnerable kids are oh you were gonna say
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something the most vulnerable kids are autistic
or somewhere in the autism spectrum they're already
gay or whatever the case may be
which already has its own aberrative you know
qualities with it and that makes them subject to the sort of manipulation depression
trauma i mean we are taking the most innocent and the most vulnerable and then
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weaponizing them against society against themselves their parents and the future
of the country right and in the process While this is all going on.
They've been doing some other things to add to that confusion and that vulnerability.
So they've created an academic level that is just sub-prime, right?
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The critical thinking is not even part of learning anymore.
So when you're not a critical thinker, you cannot think. Again,
it's all driven on emotion.
You always feel, feel, feel. When you feel, feel, feel, and you're not thinking, you're very lost.
It's, you know, you don't want to be in that place. That's when people take
medication. They go to psychologists and psychiatrists. There is depression involved.
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You cannot be in that emotional state all the time. You have to be,
you need to be there sometimes.
We have to be empathetic and sympathetic and we have to be there.
We have to process through emotion, but we have to be able to rise to the logical
and rational thinking to be able to really deal with a problem, right?
So they're disengaging kids from that ability through their learning,
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through social emotional learning.
That's why that is a huge part of learning right now. Social emotional learning,
that used to be exactly for autistic children and special needs children.
When they were not able to communicate on a very basic level,
that's when the social emotional learning came in and they've taught them,
hey, instead of hitting, you need to use your words, right? This is the kind
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of mythology that was going into that.
Right now, social emotional learning is practically in every curriculum in most
schools around the country.
And that's, again, processing with emotion everything that you read,
everything that you learn.
So there is bias in everything that you understand.
There's no ability for you to understand facts versus how it's perceived or how it affects someone.
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Well, that is a fact, right? If there is a war somewhere, that's a fact.
How it affects someone, that's a different story.
Who is right and who is wrong, that's also something that you need to learn
based on facts, not how it affects the minority that is involved in the story,
for instance, right? So they're taking that away.
So that's been going on for a long, long time, that lower academics and the
social-emotional learning being put into it. And also the critical race theory
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and the hatred of this country.
When you hate where you are, when you hate the country that you live in,
when you hate your family, when you hate yourself, all of that hatred puts you
in a very, very vulnerable place.
You're in a very, very easily manipulative place that they need you to be in.
Because when you're strong, when you feel strong with your family,
I have a good family, I have good parents that are behind me.
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I have a country that I can be proud of. You see, as I'm talking,
my body rises up because I feel strong, right?
But this country is terrible and the world is awful and humans are terrible
because of what they do to climate.
And my family is terrible because it's so religious.
Look at that child. So, of course, they can take him and they can snag him for
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whatever it is they want to indoctrinate him with.
That's what they've been doing so the lgbtq is
like the agenda right now it's like the cherry on top because
they're going to try to make it where it is you know all wars have started either
from religion you know it's social right it's social economic it's religion
it's it's geography it has to do with the people right so now they're turning
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people based on gender they figured that That's why the intersexuality,
that's why critical race theory have joined that LGBTQ together.
So now it's not just about race anymore because it's becoming a harder and harder argument.
It doesn't matter how much you want to bring up slavery in America.
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There is more interracial couples.
In 10 years, it's going to be really, in 20 years, it's going to be a hard argument
because there is really no real racism in America.
There is some racism and some people that are hating. That's for sure.
But it's not like you can't fly if you're Black or you cannot drive in the bus
or you cannot marry someone or some of the things that were illegal.
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You can't vote. None of that is happening. So in 20 years, that is going to be lost.
They had to come up with something else to create conflict. Well,
gender sounds like a great idea.
And that's why they're bringing us against each other. They started with feminism,
sending women to work away from their children because that's more important.
Don't breastfeed because that's not cool at all. All the things that,
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again, that's a primitive instinct of a mother.
I have three children. It's what you want to give them as soon as they come
out of your body. You want to feed them, right? Whatever you have.
That's what you want to do.
No, don't breastfeed. Go to work. Go climb the ladder of corporate.
So that was the beginning of that. That's breaking up the family.
We're going to pay you more if you're not with a husband.
That's specifically true to minorities.
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So they've created that. And now that gender fight that they're creating,
I think, is that last level for them to be able to really break us apart.
So now suddenly, if you're not with them, you're against them.
And now they created that war between us.
And that's where we're at. So true. So self-evident.
You know, I had a little revelation while you were talking about SEL and the
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scriptural verse that goes, as a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.
And, you know, we attribute thinking to the mind and feeling to the heart.
But when we start to take those emotions, I've been treated unjustly or this isn't right.
And we start to think with it, thinking in our heart. So we become.
So they get you all riled up by feeling sad, by feeling it's not fair.
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And now let's think and talk and speak from this place and operate intellectually
from this emotion of injustice.
And then what do we got? We turn out a whole army of little Maoist activists,
warriors, social justice warriors.
And so, yeah, there's a lot of brainwashing happening in that process.
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You mentioned that you have a military background, too.
How do you feel when you see our military generals coming out,
you know, trans and pushing the flag,
you know, the queer progress flag and all of this and all of these new rules,
you know, to borrow a term from James Lindsay,
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queerify the military?
Awful. There is a place that we want a whole lot of testosterone and toxic masculinity
and all of that in, and that's our military.
Because sadly, the armies that we are in war, whether declared or not with,
which is China and Russia, I can tell you right now, there's a whole lot of
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testosterone going on there.
And that's what we need to keep it. There's some things that you don't have
to impact every aspect of your life in society with, with an idea or with,
with whatever you want to call LGBTQ.
I don't want to call it an idea. It's an item. It's something that happens.
That's right. That's for those people that are to make that fall into how you
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teach in school, to make that how you operate an army, an army,
these people need to go in, you know, you don't, But I,
you know, and I was in the Israeli military and there was always,
you know, even when you have girls and boys in the same unit,
right, even if they're not gay, there are issues there. There's attraction.
There's all kinds of things that you want to try to eliminate the best that
you can for their own safety.
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This is not a joke, right? You cannot, you know, get attracted to each other,
a man and a woman in a watching, you know, tower and they start making out and
they're getting shot at, right?
I mean, there is a boundary that we have to make sure that we keep safe for
the sake of those warriors and soldiers to be strong in what they do,
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clear-minded, not involved emotionally and all of that, right?
So that can happen, again, between, you know, look at Top Gun, right?
You all saw the movie, like it creates, there's something there.
So when we're bringing that in to the military 10 times fold,
then we're just asking for more problems because now it's between men and men in there.
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Now, not to say, I'm sure gay men throughout history have joined the army,
right? And they were who they were, right?
But it wasn't becoming so okay to whatever, whatever it is that they're trying
to do with those policies, right?
They're bringing critical race theory also into the military.
They're trying to weaken them, again, by working on so much emotion and political correctness.
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And we can't have our soldiers working from a place of emotion.
We need them clear. We need them sharp. We need them clear.
To the point and, and just take orders and go and execute them the best way they can.
And that is not something that they can do when it's all about emotions.
You know, they had our generals write a letter of, of, of apology for being
a white supremacist, you know, just because they're white.
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It's like, no, you can't have that done in the military. You should not have that done.
They should not apologize for being, you know, white men.
And, and it's just, it's just the whole thing is just, it's getting out of hand
as we talk about it, somebody with a little bit of rationale should say,
you know, this is all just a little excessive.
It's just too much. And that's where we are. I think it's too much.
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And I think we need to leave our military alone.
We need to let them do what they do best, what they've done best for years.
And all of these changes are weakening us. And the problem is,
again, if we had enemies that were weak too, that would have been fine.
But we have some really strong enemies and we need to make sure that we are prepared for them.
And we need to make sure that we don't have people installing policies that
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are going to weaken our men.
Exactly. Like we have, these opposing armies are full of like barbarism and
very barbaric attitudes. You know, we're in a first world country.
Some of these are not so first world. They're not so gentle and kind.
And we've spent all of our time emasculating our men, which is what we need.
We need strong men being strong men.
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We need women being, you know, feminine women, women being the helpmate or supporting
the the men, men taking care of the women and children.
We need that hierarchical structure that we've lost, like back when you were
alluding to the feminist movement.
And because of that, the structure's gone, the children are being reared up
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and coming out with all sorts of problems.
I was raised without... My dad had left when I was young and had some stepdads and stuff, but...
I didn't realize, now I'm almost 40, I didn't realize the effect psychologically.
I thought I was just unfortunate. I didn't realize all my weakness coming up
and going through school was so based out of the psychological vulnerability
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that I felt because I was missing something that would have been brought to
me that my classmates with fathers had.
I didn't realize that that was because I didn't have that structure at home.
And now I look back and I can reconstruct, you know, and fix myself by,
you know, getting caught up finding a good mentor or some, you know,
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spiritual path or something to fill that in, you know, to help me become something different.
But that's what we're doing when we encourage fatherless homes,
when we get the women off to do jobs in the male workplace.
And I should be careful I say that because I'm all for women doing any role that she wants.
And I think they've proven they can do that. And if they want to do that,
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they should be able to do that. Yeah. But there's been, I think,
unanticipated consequences to this movement.
And, you know, now we're seeing, you know, you see some funny memes where they're
like, oh, there's going to be a draft.
And all of a sudden the trans people are like, you know, in here like, oh, I'm a woman.
And it's like, you know, this, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, there's a draft.
And then I'm sorry, the other way around. It's a man saying,
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I won't sing. I'm a man. All of a sudden she's in the kitchen again. Oh, it's the draft time.
Oh, I'll be here. Wait for you. And it's It's like, yeah, you know,
when stuff gets real, we're going to like kind of fall back into a gender roles a lot more.
We're going to see why, you know, we've just been playing this game.
It's funny that you say that, but it's exactly it's exactly true because they
are trying to say, you know, I can go on maternity leave, even though I don't
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really, you know, as a man, even though I don't even I didn't give birth and
all of these other things. I can be on my period.
I have a friend whose daughter is in nursing school, and now she's being taught
that men can be pregnant.
And she's in nursing school because it's like, what is she going to do when
a man comes in and says that he's a woman, but he has the organs of a man, right?
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She needs to be able to treat him biologically.
So, again, this is not about gay. The trans movement is a whole different level
of changing the rules on so many levels.
And, again, we all have to be careful because I have nothing against trans people.
But again, when you're saying that you're one thing and then you're getting
in and you have a whole different, all different organs, you're going to be
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treated biologically because biologically we cannot change yet.
It's going to change. I'm sure as we, they're going to be able to find ways to change that.
But right now we are what we are biologically and we need to be treated that
way medically and otherwise.
So when it comes to the military, something came to mind that I posted a year
ago. So you could see a commercial of the American Marine Corps.
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I don't know what that was.
You know, and it was animated, you know, to recruit, right? It was animated.
And she was, oh, I was raised by two mothers in San Francisco, California.
And I did this and I did that and come and join me. And side by side,
they were showing the Russian military commercial, right?
To recruit like boots, boot shops, like, you know, their muscle.
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And I was thinking to myself, you know, you look at us, I should send it to
you. You should post it. It's like, something is wrong with this picture.
Something is really, really wrong with this picture because this is,
and our enemy saw our commercial too.
They know that this is the military they're going to have, they're going to be able to fight.
And that's not good for us. Like we have to be really careful when it comes to that.
And that's all we're saying. You see, we are very logical and it doesn't matter
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how much you're going to call us bigots and liars.
And the more I talk, the more I know that I am very rational because I am accepting
of all. I am okay with everyone being whatever it is that they want to be.
But when it comes to children, it's a different story. When it comes to military,
it's a different story. When it comes to the workplace, it's a different story.
You cannot go into workplaces and wash them off as if those individuals that
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you have employed for you don't have certain religious rights,
certain religious attitudes,
certain moral worldviews that you need to not force and compel them with something else.
And it's done too. A lot of the training and a lot of other things that are
going on right now in a lot of corporations and companies.
It's all completely compelled speech to those people that work in there.
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And if you're not going through those trainings where they tell you that you
need to treat your fellow, you know, co-workers in a certain way because of
whatever they want to, they feel like they are that day,
then you're in trouble. And we can't allow that to happen.
And back to your point, as far as you growing up and all these other issues,
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this is emphasizing even more why this fight is so important.
Children have a lot of problems in their families. Most families are not perfect.
Most families have a lot of issues,
especially the divorce rate is so much bigger now than it used to be.
So a lot of times, and then there's just so much going on.
We have to make sure that they know that they're victors, not victims.
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When you are a victim, but you refuse to accept that victimhood,
you are more likely to succeed in life because, you know, sure,
my upbringing wasn't perfect, your upbringing wasn't perfect,
but we rise above it, right?
We went on, we went forward, we forced our way to the top because we wanted to be successful.
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We wanted to be strong. We had that power innate within us. A lot of children
don't. So when they're already coming from a weak place and you're weakening
them more, you're just setting up a whole generation, a whole generation to
be failing. And we see that in them.
They are not creative. They are very much involved with their,
and you know, everybody's a bully.
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It's like, and I'm sorry if I'm going to sound insensitive for saying that,
but everybody gets bullied when they're in school.
Bullying and getting bullied is is is an
integral part of growing up on the level of course
if you're being you know destroyed and of course we need to
get involved in that but now you're being bullied for kids are
saying oh you're a bully for just talking to them
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for just conversing to them at some point if you're
going to be so weak at heart how are you going to deal with the
real problems that the world is going to give you if you're going to
get a trophy no matter participate just for
participating how are you going to get that great job and
that great job interview and win that job if
you're just thinking that you're supposed to be getting it just by virtue of applying for
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it like it doesn't work this way in the real world and if you're
not going to prepare kids to the real world then we're
going to have a whole lot of people in the next generation that are just incapable
of achieving and that achievement is crucial for you again for your core strength
for your emotional stability they don't have that if you're never succeeding
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and you're just getting getting getting and you're just entitled entitled entitled you're never
going to be able to achieve anything, you're going to bake it hard and you're
not going to be successful.
And with everything else that's going against them, with AI,
you're going to have to be a whole lot more creative with the kind of jobs that
we're going to have for these kids because so many of them are going to be replaced,
already are being replaced by AI.
We need to make sure that we are more logical than these computers, right?
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Logical, not emotional and not as smart because they have a lot of data in them.
But we need to be more logical in the way that we think.
So we're going to be able to create these kind of jobs after the day after in five and 10 years.
Because, you know, being a writer, you're not going to need writers anymore
pretty soon with chat GPT.
I mean, all of these editors, logo designers, all of these things are going to be replaced by AI.
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What are you going to do? We need to make sure that we prepare these kids to
think critically to be able to overcome this new challenge that they have.
And I don't think the schools are preparing them for that when they're all they're
dealing with is, and literally that's all they're dealing with,
LGBTQ, pronoun, critical race theory, social emotional learning. That's all they do.
It's a shame. You know, we only got a minute left, but to that,
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I think the only way that we're going to be able to get one up on AI is we have
to remember AI has access to the whole library of world knowledge.
AI has access to the skill set, the technical knowledge of how to do basically everything.
It can construct and stylize anything any way it wants.
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But what it really doesn't have and won't be able to master is a moral structure.
A sound philosophical basis.
And, you know, when it comes down to it, understanding at the heart,
you know, due to others as you'd have them do unto you or, you know,
what it is to be selfless or what it is to consider things in the light of,
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you know, perhaps you subscribe to karma,
what goes around comes around or whatever you sow, you reap.
You know, machines can do away with all those silly notions and just pull through,
steamroll over whatever to get something done.
And but that is what makes us human. That is where the spirit of man comes in.
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And that is something unique that you have as a human being that no machine
can actually truly replicate in fullness.
So with that, Sherry, I want to thank you for joining us.
Would you please share your social media, your website and any other way or
any other thing you'd like to get people connected to? Thank you. Yes.
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So sapiraz.com, S-A-P-I-R-A-Z.com is my website.
My Twitter is my full name, S-H-I-R-Y, S-A-P-I-R, Sherry Sapir.
Yeah, please join us if you have any ideas, if you want to be involved in the
schools, if you want to run for school board, very important,
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especially here in Arizona, we're helping you guys, training you.
So please reach out. We need as many boots on the ground to fight the fight
with us. Well, amen to that, sister.
So this has been Robert Wallace with Gays Against Groomers. If you're not following
us already on Twitter, please go.
I'm sorry. Go just look up at Gays Against Groomers. You'll find us there. We're on Instagram.
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you can email podcast at gaysagainstgroomers.com.
So until next week, thanks for joining us.
Welcome to the Dark Side of the Rainbow. I am your host, Robert Wallace,
and this is a Gaze Against Groomers production.
Today, we have Shiri Sapir on with us. She's an advocate for children in Arizona.
She, just a couple of years ago, ran to be superintendent of education here in Arizona,
and she continues running coalitions and initiatives to protect children in
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every aspect of their life, including but not limited to the onslaught from
the LGBTQIA plus trans agenda.
How are you doing, Shuri? I'm doing great, Howard. How are you? Fantastic.
Well, it's an honor to have you on. You're a good friend.
You're an amazing advocate for children. Anybody can go to shurisapir.com.
That's S-H-I-R-Y-S-A-P-I-R.com.
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And you can learn more about her initiatives. As it says right across the top
of her page, this is a rescue mission to protect the kids. It's that simple.
I mean, they are coming after our children.
And sadly, they've used the platform, the LGBTQ platform, to completely twist
the truth, which is innocence is something that we must allow kids to have until they are adults.
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That's something we cannot take away from them for no cause.
So he took the truth, he twisted it, and now they made it so that it's not politically
correct anymore to correct people who come to children and ask them for their
pronoun or their sexual preference when they're seven or eight.
And that's where us mama bears decided to rise up and say, no, no more.
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You can't keep that lie going and we'll let it be. We're not politically correct.
We don't want to be politically correct. We must protect our children.
And that's what we're trying to do. I love that. That's so amazing.
There's not many things as inspiring these days as seeing parents rising up
and taking an active role in protecting their kids in an area that they should
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have never had to have been on the front lines of.
You should be able to trust the schools, but you can't anymore.
So you've helped to move forward different types of legislation and policies and initiatives.
School of choice was a big thing. Can you tell us about how you pushed that forward?
Yes. Thankfully in Arizona, we got very lucky and hopefully this will not change,
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but we got universal ESA empowerment scholarship accounts to pass legislation.
And we have it now as a, an option in Arizona.
And the reason that we push for that is very simple and logical.
If you You as a school going to push propaganda and dogma that we are against,
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then we want our kids educated. We have to have options.
It's that simple. If I can't homeschool because I'm busy as a mother in my business,
then I want to have other options.
And for those who object that, it's obvious that they have an agenda because
they want to capture this captive audience within their walls and brainwash
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them and demoralize them.
So school choice, to me, was the most logical thing to pursue because then we
don't have to fight you, the school.
You do whatever you want to do. If parents decide that they want their seven-year-old
to be asked about their sexual preferences, that's great.
Send them there. But other parents who want to protect their children,
in a sense, have options.
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So we got that passed with the Republican majority here in Arizona.
And sadly, a lot of the Democrats are doing everything they can to take that
away because they know that parents are now moving in groves away from the public schools because,
specifically because of this LGBTQ and restroom issues and all these other things
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that parents just don't want to have to deal with in the schools.
And I think hopefully it's going to happen more, you know, countrywide.
We need that in a lot of other places, but I think it really is up to the voters
to make sure that they're voting in people.
And I tell that to everyone who wants to listen, you know, a lot of people are
one single issue voters, right?
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It may be abortion, it may be taxes, whatever the case may be.
This year and in the next few years, I think we all need to come together as
the one single issue and it's our children.
So it doesn't matter if I disagree with you on abortion or if I disagree with
you on any other issue gone, you know, Second Amendment, whatever the case may be.
When it comes to children, we all need to be unified behind the idea that we need to protect them.
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And at least in the next couple of cycles, if we elect people that understand
that, that will push for school chores, that will push to protect children,
we may actually maintain a sane and honest and moral society.
So that's why we're pushing for school chores. That's why everybody should be
pushing for that in their states.
And hopefully once we get that settled, it's going to be a lot harder for them
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to continue to push that agenda because they know, hey, Shiri is going to walk away with her children.
Maybe we just need to tone it down a bit. And that's what we're trying to achieve.
You know, you raise an interesting point. You know, the single issue voters.
I think a lot of times get had because they take an issue like abortion or they
take an issue like some kind of social justice cause,
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which is really used as a Trojan horse in order to get in a bunch of country
destroying, morality destroying policies in place.
And when it comes to the schools, as you were saying, you know,
people are leaving the public schools in droves. I think on your website,
as of 2021, you were seeing it was 38,000 children had left the school.
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And I'm sure that has gone up a lot. It's now 20,000, 80,000.
So before ESA, before universal ESA passed, which was about less than two years ago or went into effect,
we went from about 11,000 children on ESA, which were primarily special needs
and other specific reasons That's why they were able to receive those funds
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separate from the public schools.
And now we have close to 80,000 within a year and a half.
So this message is loud and clear. And that's why they're so afraid of because
they know that when the parents have the option, they're taking that option. They don't want that.
And that's why they're fighting so hard to take away ESA in Arizona and not
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to pass it in other states.
You know, when it comes to the parents' bill of rights.
This is something that you discuss on your website also.
Can you go into the details of that? Why do parents need a Bill of Rights?
How is it empowering to them? And what should they learn from that?
It is shocking to me that in a distant society, we even have to spell that out
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and put it into statute, right?
I mean, I gave birth to these children.
They cut my stomach in order to take them out of my body.
I created them. Me and God, if you believe in God, if you don't believe in God, that's fine. It's you.
But it's definitely not a principal or a superintendent in a school.
They for sure were not part of that creation.
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So again, sad that we even have to spell that out. But since we have.
Although the parents will have rights to say, hey, parents have the right to
direct the education of their children.
You know, if I have a specific religious preference, and this is a free country,
we're supposed to be able to exercise our freedom of religion.
And if I have specific morals and worldviews,
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I should be able to put my children in institutions that align with those worldviews
because I cannot teach something at home and then send them to our adversaries
and enemies of those ideas and have them preach something completely different
to our children. Not because we're close-minded.
Sure, they should be aware of a lot of other religions or a lot of other worldviews,
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but the schools have taken it upon themselves to brainwash and indoctrinate,
not just tell them, hey, there's other things out there.
Just know they are drilling our kids with those ideas that are against mine.
So that's a problem. That's why I should have my parents' Bill of Rights.
When it comes to medical decisions, this was specifically important and created,
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that's why that put the seed in me to run for office, was the entire gaslighting
of COVID and the masks and the vaccine mandates and keeping kids for years at
home on Zoom away from their children,
away from human contact, away from a classroom.
Room, in some cases, staying home to get more of the abuse and other issues
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that I had at home, where schools might have been the only escape they had in
the day away from the horrible realities at home.
So all of this was done, psychological effects, drug use, suicide, no proms.
There were so many issues that were all because of the schools deciding and
politicians decided to take away the rights of parents to decide all medical
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decisions on behalf of their children.
So that's another part of the statute in Arizona that is extremely important.
I think it was overridden quite a bit throughout COVID.
The school should have not been able to keep the kids at home.
They should have not been able to require vaccines or masks for the children, but they did.
So now we're also seeing the issues of transitioning children, right?
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The hormones that they're giving unbeknownst to the parents,
some cases around the country, they actually perform surgeries on these children
without the parents' consent, not to mention abortions.
And this whole idea of the whole child, whole community, it's vastly accepted in California.
California, the idea that you can have medical facilities in the schools,
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you know, it used to be that a nurse could not even give Tylenol to a child
without my consent, right?
Now they can cut off the breast of my child without my consent.
How did we go so far so quick within a matter of a few years to where society
should be sitting silent and say, yeah, sure, you can cut off vital organs of
my child without me knowing because they want and they know better than the parent,
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because the parents are so dumb and outdated and, you know, backwards.
All of that has to stop.
It has to stop immediately, actually. I can't even understand how we are having
this conversation without just, it's like, and I've talked to a few detransitioning kids, like the.
Consequences of those decisions of these children that their brain is not even developed,
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right, until 25 is so crucial and so detriment to their wellbeing later on in
life that I just can't understand how parents are standing by and saying,
we're going to give the school.
The right to make this decision. I sit with legislatures, even here in Arizona,
who said, well, but if a child is pregnant and she's too afraid to tell her
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parents, she should be able to come and talk to her teachers about that.
And they should be able to help her out.
It's like, no, you can't. If my child is pregnant, it's 15, I would like to know.
If I'm going to be mad at her or punish her or whatever, I'm going to handle
it at home. That's our issue.
But they've entered for that arena and we need to get them out of that arena as quickly as possible.
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And that's something that I don't understand what parents, and there's many,
but I understand how these parents are just saying, no, we're going to relinquish that right.
And that's something we need to fight for. So that's in a nutshell,
the Parents' Bill of Rights, very crucial issues, medical worldview and morals,
and of course, the type of education.
You know, I think one of the points that you just hit on, which is so important,
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is the basis for people's morality.
And this is, I think most people would agree, this is a form of spiritual warfare.
And our country does have a separation of church and state.
But what I think people conflate and fail to realize is that points more towards
not having a theocracy, not having a government ruled by religion.
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It doesn't mean that you don't have the right to practice your religion.
It doesn't mean that you don't have a right to make your decisions based on
your morals, based on that.
And so, you know, there are a lot of people who are feeling like,
oh, it's the Christian right who are attacking, you know, the child's right
to development and separation of church and state.
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And so I think it's important that people have that moral foundation,
of course, or some kind of moral foundation.
Or they will fall into the religion of this cultural Marxism,
of the LGBTQIA plus alphabet mafia.
So the separation of state and religion was always there to protect the church, not the state.
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It was there to make sure that there is no religious prosecution by the government
and not necessarily the religion.
And what you said is true to some extent, but the main idea was,
let's make sure that we're not going to have prisoners being sent to prison
because of certain religion that they're practicing.
And that's what happened at that time. That's in the Federalist Papers.
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So, of course, that was just like everything else, completely misconstrued and
told to the public that is not very educated to begin with right now,
that this is how things are.
And it's not true. So we live in America.
This is supposed to be the freest country in the world where you should be able
to practice just about anything, including being an LGBTQ community member.
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You can express yourself however you want to express yourself.
You want to be a drag queen show star?
Great. But to take that drag queen star and bring her to the library,
to the community library, to read books that are inappropriate or appropriate,
but with how they look in front of five-year-olds, that's where that freedom cannot maintain.
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You can be a dark queen star in the club or where adults only are allowed,
but you can't take it to the public domain and say, now this is going to be
acceptable by you parents.
And it's amazing because I see some parents literally coming and cheering and clapping.
And these ladies or men or whatever you may want to call them are wearing clothes
that I will not wear in front of my children.
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Why would I have a stranger wearing this kind of clothes in front of my children?
But all of this conversation, I feel like we always have to defend ourselves, right?
And we need to make ourselves explain and defend why we're thinking the way we're thinking.
It's as if, again, we're some sort of dinosaurs or homophobes. And you're my friend.
I've had gay friends my entire life.
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I'm not a homophobe. I have no phobia from LGBTQ community whatsoever.
Not at all. I'm not afraid of them. I'm not against them. I just don't want
any of this to come in front of my... My son is nine-year-old. my daughter is 11.
I have a six-year-old son as well. They are so young and innocent.
Why would I have any stranger come and talk to them about sexuality of any kind?
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Why would I want that? Even if you're straight, even if you're straight,
I want you to come to my child, to my daughter, and talk to her when you're
a 30-year-old man and ask her when she's 11, how are you feeling about this, that, or the other?
That's the kind of conversations that they are saying, you're going to let us
happen to your children and you're going to be okay with it. And we're not.
And it has nothing to do with my religion. It has nothing to do with me being
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ultra-Orthodox or ultra-conservative or none of that. I'm just a mother to young children.
We need to continue with that message that our fight, just like your fight,
and I so appreciate Gays Against Rumors, because your fight is double important
because you are them as they're trying to annex you to their agenda because you're not, right?
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But just by virtue of being LGBTQ, but you're saying, no, this has to stop.
Just like your shirt beautifully says, let kids be kids.
This is all we're saying. Let kids be kids. And that's the message.
And if we can get people to rally behind that idea, and especially the LGBTQ
community, when they understand we're not against you, we're not hopeful,
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we want you with us because we need you to draw the line and say.
We're going to protect these children too.
If we all come together, I think we can make a difference.
Because if we don't, we're going to see a lot of mental issues for sure,
but a lot of, you know, pedophiles taking advantage of this situation.
And sadly, we have a lot of pedophiles in the school, you know,
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arena just because they're going to where they want to pray, right?
I mean, it would be a normal, I mean, not normal, but it would be a pretty standard
practice for a pedophile to say, I'm going to become a coach or I'm going to
become a school teacher because I can be around kids that I like to look at, right?
So that's where a lot of them are. I'm not saying all teachers are going to be pedophiles.
I'm not saying that at all. But I'm saying if we're going to allow this to happen
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in the schools, they're going to say this is where we're going to be attracted
to work because now we can do a lot of things that back in the day,
you know, all eyes would be on us and we'll never be able to get away with it. Absolutely.
You know, like you were saying, even beyond any sort of, you know,
higher moral or spiritual virtue, there is a primitive protection module in a parent.
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You know, they don't have to be taught anything by anybody who want to keep
their kids safe. That is something that is instinctual.
And so when we attack parents and we call them homegrown terrorists,
you know, for coming to the school boards and things like that,
we're attacking the most primitive responsibility and impulse in somebody who
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bears a child and invalidating that.
And it was put there, you know, in our creation, in this whole process in order
to keep us safe and help us propagate and protect us from...
Predators. And like you said, these predators are going to infiltrate places
that are supposed to be safe spaces for kids.
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That's the most logical thing for them apparently to do.
And we're seeing so many cases of teachers and others taking advantage of that position.
Exactly. But as you said, as you described this process,
we've been under attack as humans and societies now for the last few decades,
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where they try to demoralize us and wash off.
As you said, some instincts that are primitive, that are innate within us.
They try to wash off values that, again, the 10 commandments should be something
that everybody would say, yeah, we should follow that. Don't kill, don't lie, don't steal.
Pretty basic, right? They have taken that away from the public arena by law,
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you know, years ago, decades ago, they didn't want that to be showing in the
public space as if there's something wrong with telling children or humans of all kinds,
hey, these are kind of 10 things that you should not be doing.
That was the beginning of the process that we're seeing right now.
When they banned reading the Bible
in the schools and pray, they wanted to take God out of the equation.
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And again, you don't have to be religious to to accept what I'm saying right
now, they wanted to take God or the higher power or some higher authority that
is looking at you and keeping you in check, right? That's what religion is.
Some say, oh, it just puts fear in you. Well, fear like that might be good for
your own good too. You don't want to end up in prison doing wrong things, right?
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So there are some things that you should be able to follow, pretty basic.
They took that away and say, we're not going to have a society that is adhering
to those concepts, right?
Whether it's religion or just rule or law or just moral compass,
right? You should not be cheating.
You should not be stealing. They took that away.
And in the process, in the last few decades, they put laws to support that.
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They've changed rules and policies in the name of liberty and progressiveness and freedom.
There is no freedom of speech when you go into a Christian baker and say,
I want you to have a cake that has, you know, whatever written for a gay marriage.
There are thousands of other bakers in the world, in the country.
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Why do you have to go to someone that is such a big deal for them?
You know, if this is a big deal for someone, just let them be.
But they're saying, no, no, no. If you're not going along with us,
then you must be canceled. You must be sued.
You must be. So where does that end when we have a society that doesn't put
boundaries between one, you self-wishes, self-world views, and their freedom
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to act upon them, and other people just imposing their ideas and their wishes on them.
This has been a slow process. This hasn't happened in the last five years.
We are just now suddenly awake.
I have to thank COVID for that because it was so evident that they were coming
after us and suppressing us in ways that this country should not accept or the
world should not accept that we started to fight back. But this has been in
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the process for a long time.
And they've completely blurred the boundaries between wrong and right, between good and evil.
That's why you have, you know, satanic clubs in the schools.
Why in the world would you have a satanic club in school? I'm not talking about
have a non-religious, you know, club in the school where they preach,
you know, just evolution and they don't talk about God.
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If that's where you want to put your kid with your consent, right?
The parents should have consent to all these clubs, which they don't, by the way.
Send them there. But why have we jumped all the way to, let's talk about Satan?
That's where it's like, hey, we got to stop this. This is wrong.
And slow process, that's where we're at right now. And as parents,
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again, they don't want us to feel that, hey, I'm going to protect my child.
So how do you stop that from a parent? You slowly, through a long process,
make it, you know, unpopular,
unattractive, unacceptable to say certain things, to fight certain things,
because it's for, you know, if you're not going to put a mask on your child,
then you can make my child sick.
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If you're not going to let, you know, LGBTQ ask for a pronoun of my child,
of your child, then how is that going to make my child feel in the classroom?
If he wants to be asked for a pronoun, they want to be called.
You know, so they're making it to where you're so uncomfortable in your own skin.
And we are because we want to appease. It's just the human nature.
We want to appease. We want to be included. We want to help.
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But that's where they were able to cross that line and kind of blur it.
And now we're just trying to erase that blurriness and sharpen back that boundary
and say that boundary exists.
I'm going to let it go away. And that's the fight that we're in.
You know, that is so true.
What you were hitting on there is there is such hypocrisy in what is being imposed on us.
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For instance, in the realm of free speech, like with the cake you were mentioning,
it's free speech for me to say, you know, go, you know, congratulations,
you know, gays for getting married.
And that is free speech for them. But then they want to compel that speech into somebody else.
So now the baker, for instance, is like, I'm being compelled to use my speech
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in this way for this other person.
And, you know, I'm for gays, you know, getting married. I'm gay married.
But I totally get and respect and hope someone would be able to retain their right to disagree.
And we're seeing that in all kinds of ways.
The subversion of speech, the tricky turning around of arguments.
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And I don't think people realize that you can be just as clever with your arguments
and reframing things as they are in order to deconstruct what they've done or in order to,
if we find ourselves in some weird compromising place,
in order to bring ourselves where we want. I mean, that's really what's done.
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If one side says something, the other side just reframes it and says it the
other. And that's the whole problem with the emotional argument,
is we have people who are emotionally charged.
They say, you hurt my feelings, and so you can't say that.
And in a constitutional republic, as what we have right now,
or supposed to have, a republic if you can keep it, as Ben Franklin said,
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we have a government of laws, law and order.
And what they frequently said is we're in a democracy.
We're not in a democracy. We're not. And we hear that from both sides.
A democracy is a government ruled by mob law.
You have inalienable rights. That means they cannot be alienated from us.
Okay. They're inherent to us. And what we have right now is a popularity contest
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as to which of these inalienable rights we're going to lose this week.
Right. And it's exactly that. And what's beautiful about all of this is that
we think that they are the majority, but they're not.
They're very loud. They're well-funded. These are organizations that are funded by the billions.
And sadly, they hold the most important organizations that we have taken over our lives, right?
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It's the media, social media, a lot of the government, now the public schools.
So we feel like we are a minority.
But when you talk to most parents, most grandparents, the most people without
children, you don't have to have children to want to protect children.
They feel that it's pretty reasonable to ask to maintain the innocence of a
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child until they grow up and they can make their own decisions,
such as cutting vital organs out of their bodies, take hormones that are...
Having, you know, ramifications on their body and their well-being and their mind and so forth.
So we're not the minority, but we're not as loud because we've been accommodating.
Again, I initially, when this all started, especially with the LGBTQ,
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I felt that I shouldn't be speaking up so much because I may be,
you know, I may sound like I'm against LGBTQ, which I'm not.
And I I didn't know how I can make my argument about my children.
Hey, don't come to my child and ask them for their pronoun.
Don't come to my child and ask them what's their sexual orientation.
Don't tell my child that pink is for everyone. I tell my boys, pink is for girls.
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That's what I taught them since they were young. That's my prerogative.
That's what I want to teach them.
When they grow up and my boy's going to wear a pink t-shirt, good for him.
But when he's five, I still, as a parent, have the right to say that to him, right?
They tell me, no, if you do that, that you're a bigot, you are a hater.
No, I have friends that are gay.
I have nothing against them, but I was not sure how to go about it.
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But when it came to this full-fledged assault on kids,
they have administrators in the schools that actually have documents that we've
publicly requested and we have them, where they actually have the name of a
child for administrative use only.
Name of a child, what's their pronoun, preferred pronoun, out and whether the parent knows or not.
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So once we got a hold of these kind of documents, we realized that they really
don't care about what we say and how we feel about this.
They're going to do these things behind our back. And they do, they're doing that.
They have dead names here in Scottsdale, Arizona, in the school,
they have dead names, meaning a child's name is Robert and he goes in and he wants to be Jennifer.
He's called Jennifer in the school, but the parents don't know that.
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So I would like to know if the name that I've given my child is somehow changed.
And this is not a nickname, right?
This is a child saying, this is what I want to be called. And the school's saying,
we're going to call you that and we're not going to let your parents know. This is just wrong.
I think those rights that you were talking about are alive and well,
and they're worth fighting for.
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And it's tricky because they are experts of language construction, right?
They say things and it makes you pause and think, well, am I wrong?
Am I saying something wrong? Am I against the right ideas?
But we're not. So we need to deconstruct the construction of language and come
out and say loud and clear what is right and what is wrong. wrong because it cannot be both.
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Nothing can be both. I'm not saying it's wrong to be gay. It's right to be gay.
If that's what you want to be, it's wrong to bring it to children under the
age of 18 in any kind of way.
Now, if a child feels that they are gay and that's how the family,
you know, the family understands that they support it or they don't support it, it doesn't matter.
That's something that needs to be worked out individually, but you can't come
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and say, well, because somebody might feel gay, we're going to open all the
restrooms right now and allow boys to go in girls' restroom in the school where
they're getting dressed.
These girls are getting dressed in those locker rooms. I mean, can you imagine?
And I remember meeting when I was campaigning, I met a girl in South Arizona
and she said, you know, I was getting dressed in the locker room and the coach
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was standing and staring at me. She was maybe 12.
And she said, I didn't know who to talk to about this.
You know, so when you open that door to allow any men into that area,
then you are creating yourself a lot of problems.
A lot of boys that are just boys, they want to be funny.
They're curious. They want to check on these girls. They may not be gay at all.
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They find themselves more and more going into there because now it's allowed.
And that's always saying, hey, we just want to protect it. If somebody wants
to have one restroom that is for both, then great.
That's fine. But I want that my daughter will be able to go to a restroom that
is only with girls if that's what she feels comfortable.
It's like putting a condom machine in middle school. Why would you do that?
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Why would we bring in sexuality on steroids in front of these kids when we are
trying to preserve their innocence?
Sense, not because again, because we're backwards, we're ultra religious,
we're, I'm a girl, I know how dangerous it is for a girl out there.
I know how dangerous it is for a boy, by the way, even more so with pedophiles
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out there, they like them even more.
This is not something that we want to allow to happen.
We don't want this kind of traumas. You can't recover from that.
These kids can never come back from these kind of traumas. It's our job to protect them.
That's all we're Yeah, you raise some more excellent points there.
You know, when it comes to the bathrooms, all it takes is an arbitrary verbal
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declaration and gender fluid.
So today I feel like a girl, so I'm going to go on the girl's bathroom and you
get away with anything that way. And then, you know, on the other hand,
we have the gay proliferation movement.
And that's really what this is about, proliferating, making more gays.
You know, now they're saying somewhere around 20% or 40% of Gen Z identify somewhere
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on the LGBTQIA plus spectrum, which they've got such a broad umbrella under queer, you know. Yeah.
And this is, you know, this is all done like, you know, in the cash report,
it's discussed like, where's all this, where's this explosion of trans identifying
or queer identifying youth coming from?
And it's, it's more than just a social contagion. This is being implemented from the top down.
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Robbie Starbuck in his film, The War on Children describes the Hollywood concept
of the mere exposure effect.
It's probably more of a psychological concept. and this is
just if you put anything you can just throw crap on a wall
and there's going to be somebody clings to it somebody's going to embrace it
and and elaborate on it and so
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these themes are verbally spread they're spread in social media they're spread
through oh one of your classmates gets infected with this idea i'm a dog now
all of a sudden it's in my head and you got that whole thing going and we're
and it's really installing mental illness and that can be spread merely with
an idea, merely with the confusion,
with the body dysmorphia and the gender dysphoria.
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It's like, oh, I don't like my body. My body's wrong. Or maybe I'm feeling a little feminine.
Maybe that means something. Maybe I'm a lot feminine or vice versa.
This is being spread in order so that the parents can't really fight because now it's instilled.
The kids are fighting for it on their right to be sick.
Exactly. And it's so right what you're saying.
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It's It's really merely just an idea that they're putting out there in just kids' minds.
And these kids, we were all young. We were all teenagers. It's such a confusing time.
Anyways, there's so many questions. You're changing physically.
They may not be your best years as far as how you look, right?
All these hormones, you know, you change.
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This is a prime time to get somebody who is so vulnerable to say,
I don't like my body. I don't like how I look.
I don't like that I'm not being asked to the prom. I don't like that.
I don't have a boyfriend or a girlfriend.
Maybe I should be on the other side because maybe they will accept me.
Maybe I'm more attractive to them.
All of this confusion that has nothing to do with just inherently be gay,
like yourself and others, that something in the process that whenever you found
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it, but you found it solidly, right? You knew, right?
That's different than just 25%, according to the UCLA, 25% of the children in
California don't identify as the gender that they were born in. That's one out of four.
That sounds like a lot. You know, I'm looking at my.
Classmates i'm 45 throughout my you know throughout my
years and and even the mill you know the military a lot
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of them that we knew were gay then and there were very few i mean i can probably
count them in two hands the entire from from first grade to you know i was the
time i was 20 they're gay one came out very later much later in life but that's
it it's not like 25 percent of us suddenly said,
yeah, no, we want to be something else. No.
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So what changed in this generation that is so vast, right? Something changed.
What is it? It's the influence. It's the brainwashing. It's the making it cool
to be coloring your hair purple and saying, I don't identify as anything.
I met someone and she says, my son, he's dating a girl who's identifying as a boy.
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And I said, do they realize that they're just in a heterosexual relationship?
Like the fact that she's identifying as a boy and he's dating her,
it doesn't mean that he's gay because he's with a female.
It doesn't mean that she's a boy because she's dating a man,
right? So they're in a heterosexual relationship, but they're trying to make it so what? Cool?
Or what is that? It doesn't make any sense. He's not really attracted to a man
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or he would go with a man. And she's not really attracted to a female because she is with a man.
So that tells you that it's just, it's silly and And it's ridiculous.
And it's just confusing to all of us. Now, I suddenly have to go around and
be sued if I address someone as a he or she because of what they look like and
they don't feel like it that day.
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And now my compelled speech is to say exactly how they feel that day,
which I may not be able to say from their physical appearance,
but I offended them. And now I can be sued.
And by the way, I know people that got fired for that, coffee shops and others,
when they They said, you know, they referred to someone as what they thought
they were physically, and it wasn't the case, and they got fired.
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And that's going to just get worse and worse. The more they're dealing with
Title IX and other, you know, the more it becomes the law of the land,
the more issues we're going to have as employers, as customers, as everything.
And kids too in school, you know, they are taking kids out of the classroom
to the principal's office and say, you need to refer to this child with this pronoun.
And sometimes you don't know, you don't know what they are because they're one
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thing today and they're one thing, you know, the next day. So all of that is
just, again, 25% of the kids, 30% of the kids, 40% of the kids,
that's a high number. That's a number that has to do.
Now, back in the day, you would have torn jeans as a fed or whatever.
Now, it's taken to the next level. Now, they're giving them hormones.
The second some child says, I think I may not be what I am, they're pumping them with hormones.
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Slow down your horses. There's time for hormones. They can do it later on after
they're 18, 19. Let's make sure that this is not just some social experiment.
This is not some confusion. They don't have other issues.
And at that time they can start changing and do what they need to do.
Don't start it so young. That's what we're saying basically.
And that is unacceptable to them because we are not accepting and we're hating
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our children and our children cannot talk to us.
They cannot talk to us because you're talking to them, because you're taking
them to the side and saying, hey, you have issues with your parents.
And I can tell you, counselors go around the schools and that's where they're
infusing the schools with counselors right now, not with school officers,
not with good teachers, but with counselors. Why?
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Because they know there's a lot of behaviorism and psychology that they've learned
to bring their knowledge to how they're executing They're executing their plan.
They're bringing all these counselors in and they're asking kids for no reason
during lunch, do you have any issues with your parents? Is everything okay at home?
Every child, it's not normal if a child is not going to say I have problems
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at home with their teenagers, period.
I'm sorry. We all had problems with our parents in our teenage years.
It's part of growing up. You're becoming a rebel. You don't like what they say.
You want to dress how you want to dress. You want to stay up late at night. It's normal.
But they're tapping into that and they're making the children feel as if their
parents are the worst thing that ever happened to them when it's just a normal
teenage process that they have to go through.
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That's when they tap into them when they're so vulnerable and that's when they
change their minds and hearts. And that's what we need to, again, stop.
So true. True. They are putting a wedge between the children and the parents
and the kids love it because it puts them in charge.
And of course the parents hate it because now they're not just losing control
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over the growth process and the trajectory of their child, but they're actually becoming an enemy.
And in a lot of ways, a lot of times they're losing their children.
You know, especially if little Johnny becomes little Sally, you just killed Johnny to them.
Like their whole life has changed these kids are playing
off the notion like they feel like they're raging against
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the machine by denying the binary you
know like oh if i just say i'm a girl you know that's gonna mess you guys up
and they don't like that so i'm gonna do it and a lot of it's done in spite
and they don't realize they're creating like a split personality in themselves
and it's gonna come it's gonna come back and get them the most vulnerable kids are oh you were gonna say
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something the most vulnerable kids are autistic
or somewhere in the autism spectrum they're already
gay or whatever the case may be
which already has its own aberrative you know
qualities with it and that makes them subject to the sort of manipulation depression
trauma i mean we are taking the most innocent and the most vulnerable and then
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weaponizing them against society against themselves their parents and the future
of the country right and in the process While this is all going on.
They've been doing some other things to add to that confusion and that vulnerability.
So they've created an academic level that is just sub-prime, right?
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The critical thinking is not even part of learning anymore.
So when you're not a critical thinker, you cannot think. Again,
it's all driven on emotion.
You always feel, feel, feel. When you feel, feel, feel, and you're not thinking, you're very lost.
It's, you know, you don't want to be in that place. That's when people take
medication. They go to psychologists and psychiatrists. There is depression involved.
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You cannot be in that emotional state all the time. You have to be,
you need to be there sometimes.
We have to be empathetic and sympathetic and we have to be there.
We have to process through emotion, but we have to be able to rise to the logical
and rational thinking to be able to really deal with a problem, right?
So they're disengaging kids from that ability through their learning,
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through social emotional learning.
That's why that is a huge part of learning right now. Social emotional learning,
that used to be exactly for autistic children and special needs children.
When they were not able to communicate on a very basic level,
that's when the social emotional learning came in and they've taught them,
hey, instead of hitting, you need to use your words, right? This is the kind
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of mythology that was going into that.
Right now, social emotional learning is practically in every curriculum in most
schools around the country.
And that's, again, processing with emotion everything that you read,
everything that you learn.
So there is bias in everything that you understand.
There's no ability for you to understand facts versus how it's perceived or how it affects someone.
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Well, that is a fact, right? If there is a war somewhere, that's a fact.
How it affects someone, that's a different story.
Who is right and who is wrong, that's also something that you need to learn
based on facts, not how it affects the minority that is involved in the story,
for instance, right? So they're taking that away.
So that's been going on for a long, long time, that lower academics and the
social-emotional learning being put into it. And also the critical race theory
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and the hatred of this country.
When you hate where you are, when you hate the country that you live in,
when you hate your family, when you hate yourself, all of that hatred puts you
in a very, very vulnerable place.
You're in a very, very easily manipulative place that they need you to be in.
Because when you're strong, when you feel strong with your family,
I have a good family, I have good parents that are behind me.
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I have a country that I can be proud of. You see, as I'm talking,
my body rises up because I feel strong, right?
But this country is terrible and the world is awful and humans are terrible
because of what they do to climate.
And my family is terrible because it's so religious.
Look at that child. So, of course, they can take him and they can snag him for
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whatever it is they want to indoctrinate him with.
That's what they've been doing so the lgbtq is
like the agenda right now it's like the cherry on top because
they're going to try to make it where it is you know all wars have started either
from religion you know it's social right it's social economic it's religion
it's it's geography it has to do with the people right so now they're turning
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people based on gender they figured that That's why the intersexuality,
that's why critical race theory have joined that LGBTQ together.
So now it's not just about race anymore because it's becoming a harder and harder argument.
It doesn't matter how much you want to bring up slavery in America.
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There is more interracial couples.
In 10 years, it's going to be really, in 20 years, it's going to be a hard argument
because there is really no real racism in America.
There is some racism and some people that are hating. That's for sure.
But it's not like you can't fly if you're Black or you cannot drive in the bus
or you cannot marry someone or some of the things that were illegal.
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You can't vote. None of that is happening. So in 20 years, that is going to be lost.
They had to come up with something else to create conflict. Well,
gender sounds like a great idea.
And that's why they're bringing us against each other. They started with feminism,
sending women to work away from their children because that's more important.
Don't breastfeed because that's not cool at all. All the things that,
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again, that's a primitive instinct of a mother.
I have three children. It's what you want to give them as soon as they come
out of your body. You want to feed them, right? Whatever you have.
That's what you want to do.
No, don't breastfeed. Go to work. Go climb the ladder of corporate.
So that was the beginning of that. That's breaking up the family.
We're going to pay you more if you're not with a husband.
That's specifically true to minorities.
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So they've created that. And now that gender fight that they're creating,
I think, is that last level for them to be able to really break us apart.
So now suddenly, if you're not with them, you're against them.
And now they created that war between us.
And that's where we're at. So true. So self-evident.
You know, I had a little revelation while you were talking about SEL and the
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scriptural verse that goes, as a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.
And, you know, we attribute thinking to the mind and feeling to the heart.
But when we start to take those emotions, I've been treated unjustly or this isn't right.
And we start to think with it, thinking in our heart. So we become.
So they get you all riled up by feeling sad, by feeling it's not fair.
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And now let's think and talk and speak from this place and operate intellectually
from this emotion of injustice.
And then what do we got? We turn out a whole army of little Maoist activists,
warriors, social justice warriors.
And so, yeah, there's a lot of brainwashing happening in that process.
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You mentioned that you have a military background, too.
How do you feel when you see our military generals coming out,
you know, trans and pushing the flag,
you know, the queer progress flag and all of this and all of these new rules,
you know, to borrow a term from James Lindsay,
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queerify the military?
Awful. There is a place that we want a whole lot of testosterone and toxic masculinity
and all of that in, and that's our military.
Because sadly, the armies that we are in war, whether declared or not with,
which is China and Russia, I can tell you right now, there's a whole lot of
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testosterone going on there.
And that's what we need to keep it. There's some things that you don't have
to impact every aspect of your life in society with, with an idea or with,
with whatever you want to call LGBTQ.
I don't want to call it an idea. It's an item. It's something that happens.
That's right. That's for those people that are to make that fall into how you
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teach in school, to make that how you operate an army, an army,
these people need to go in, you know, you don't, But I,
you know, and I was in the Israeli military and there was always,
you know, even when you have girls and boys in the same unit,
right, even if they're not gay, there are issues there. There's attraction.
There's all kinds of things that you want to try to eliminate the best that
you can for their own safety.
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This is not a joke, right? You cannot, you know, get attracted to each other,
a man and a woman in a watching, you know, tower and they start making out and
they're getting shot at, right?
I mean, there is a boundary that we have to make sure that we keep safe for
the sake of those warriors and soldiers to be strong in what they do,
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clear-minded, not involved emotionally and all of that, right?
So that can happen, again, between, you know, look at Top Gun, right?
You all saw the movie, like it creates, there's something there.
So when we're bringing that in to the military 10 times fold,
then we're just asking for more problems because now it's between men and men in there.
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Now, not to say, I'm sure gay men throughout history have joined the army,
right? And they were who they were, right?
But it wasn't becoming so okay to whatever, whatever it is that they're trying
to do with those policies, right?
They're bringing critical race theory also into the military.
They're trying to weaken them, again, by working on so much emotion and political correctness.
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And we can't have our soldiers working from a place of emotion.
We need them clear. We need them sharp. We need them clear.
To the point and, and just take orders and go and execute them the best way they can.
And that is not something that they can do when it's all about emotions.
You know, they had our generals write a letter of, of, of apology for being
a white supremacist, you know, just because they're white.
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It's like, no, you can't have that done in the military. You should not have that done.
They should not apologize for being, you know, white men.
And, and it's just, it's just the whole thing is just, it's getting out of hand
as we talk about it, somebody with a little bit of rationale should say,
you know, this is all just a little excessive.
It's just too much. And that's where we are. I think it's too much.
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And I think we need to leave our military alone.
We need to let them do what they do best, what they've done best for years.
And all of these changes are weakening us. And the problem is,
again, if we had enemies that were weak too, that would have been fine.
But we have some really strong enemies and we need to make sure that we are prepared for them.
And we need to make sure that we don't have people installing policies that
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are going to weaken our men.
Exactly. Like we have, these opposing armies are full of like barbarism and
very barbaric attitudes. You know, we're in a first world country.
Some of these are not so first world. They're not so gentle and kind.
And we've spent all of our time emasculating our men, which is what we need.
We need strong men being strong men.
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We need women being, you know, feminine women, women being the helpmate or supporting
the the men, men taking care of the women and children.
We need that hierarchical structure that we've lost, like back when you were
alluding to the feminist movement.
And because of that, the structure's gone, the children are being reared up
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and coming out with all sorts of problems.
I was raised without... My dad had left when I was young and had some stepdads and stuff, but...
I didn't realize, now I'm almost 40, I didn't realize the effect psychologically.
I thought I was just unfortunate. I didn't realize all my weakness coming up
and going through school was so based out of the psychological vulnerability
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that I felt because I was missing something that would have been brought to
me that my classmates with fathers had.
I didn't realize that that was because I didn't have that structure at home.
And now I look back and I can reconstruct, you know, and fix myself by,
you know, getting caught up finding a good mentor or some, you know,
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spiritual path or something to fill that in, you know, to help me become something different.
But that's what we're doing when we encourage fatherless homes,
when we get the women off to do jobs in the male workplace.
And I should be careful I say that because I'm all for women doing any role that she wants.
And I think they've proven they can do that. And if they want to do that,
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they should be able to do that. Yeah. But there's been, I think,
unanticipated consequences to this movement.
And, you know, now we're seeing, you know, you see some funny memes where they're
like, oh, there's going to be a draft.
And all of a sudden the trans people are like, you know, in here like, oh, I'm a woman.
And it's like, you know, this, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, there's a draft.
And then I'm sorry, the other way around. It's a man saying,
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I won't sing. I'm a man. All of a sudden she's in the kitchen again. Oh, it's the draft time.
Oh, I'll be here. Wait for you. And it's It's like, yeah, you know,
when stuff gets real, we're going to like kind of fall back into a gender roles a lot more.
We're going to see why, you know, we've just been playing this game.
It's funny that you say that, but it's exactly it's exactly true because they
are trying to say, you know, I can go on maternity leave, even though I don't
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really, you know, as a man, even though I don't even I didn't give birth and
all of these other things. I can be on my period.
I have a friend whose daughter is in nursing school, and now she's being taught
that men can be pregnant.
And she's in nursing school because it's like, what is she going to do when
a man comes in and says that he's a woman, but he has the organs of a man, right?
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She needs to be able to treat him biologically.
So, again, this is not about gay. The trans movement is a whole different level
of changing the rules on so many levels.
And, again, we all have to be careful because I have nothing against trans people.
But again, when you're saying that you're one thing and then you're getting
in and you have a whole different, all different organs, you're going to be
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treated biologically because biologically we cannot change yet.
It's going to change. I'm sure as we, they're going to be able to find ways to change that.
But right now we are what we are biologically and we need to be treated that
way medically and otherwise.
So when it comes to the military, something came to mind that I posted a year
ago. So you could see a commercial of the American Marine Corps.
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I don't know what that was.
You know, and it was animated, you know, to recruit, right? It was animated.
And she was, oh, I was raised by two mothers in San Francisco, California.
And I did this and I did that and come and join me. And side by side,
they were showing the Russian military commercial, right?
To recruit like boots, boot shops, like, you know, their muscle.
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And I was thinking to myself, you know, you look at us, I should send it to
you. You should post it. It's like, something is wrong with this picture.
Something is really, really wrong with this picture because this is,
and our enemy saw our commercial too.
They know that this is the military they're going to have, they're going to be able to fight.
And that's not good for us. Like we have to be really careful when it comes to that.
And that's all we're saying. You see, we are very logical and it doesn't matter
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how much you're going to call us bigots and liars.
And the more I talk, the more I know that I am very rational because I am accepting
of all. I am okay with everyone being whatever it is that they want to be.
But when it comes to children, it's a different story. When it comes to military,
it's a different story. When it comes to the workplace, it's a different story.
You cannot go into workplaces and wash them off as if those individuals that
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you have employed for you don't have certain religious rights,
certain religious attitudes,
certain moral worldviews that you need to not force and compel them with something else.
And it's done too. A lot of the training and a lot of other things that are
going on right now in a lot of corporations and companies.
It's all completely compelled speech to those people that work in there.
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And if you're not going through those trainings where they tell you that you
need to treat your fellow, you know, co-workers in a certain way because of
whatever they want to, they feel like they are that day,
then you're in trouble. And we can't allow that to happen.
And back to your point, as far as you growing up and all these other issues,
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this is emphasizing even more why this fight is so important.
Children have a lot of problems in their families. Most families are not perfect.
Most families have a lot of issues,
especially the divorce rate is so much bigger now than it used to be.
So a lot of times, and then there's just so much going on.
We have to make sure that they know that they're victors, not victims.
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When you are a victim, but you refuse to accept that victimhood,
you are more likely to succeed in life because, you know, sure,
my upbringing wasn't perfect, your upbringing wasn't perfect,
but we rise above it, right?
We went on, we went forward, we forced our way to the top because we wanted to be successful.
(54:03):
We wanted to be strong. We had that power innate within us. A lot of children
don't. So when they're already coming from a weak place and you're weakening
them more, you're just setting up a whole generation, a whole generation to
be failing. And we see that in them.
They are not creative. They are very much involved with their,
and you know, everybody's a bully.
(54:24):
It's like, and I'm sorry if I'm going to sound insensitive for saying that,
but everybody gets bullied when they're in school.
Bullying and getting bullied is is is an
integral part of growing up on the level of course
if you're being you know destroyed and of course we need to
get involved in that but now you're being bullied for kids are
saying oh you're a bully for just talking to them
(54:44):
for just conversing to them at some point if you're
going to be so weak at heart how are you going to deal with the
real problems that the world is going to give you if you're going to
get a trophy no matter participate just for
participating how are you going to get that great job and
that great job interview and win that job if
you're just thinking that you're supposed to be getting it just by virtue of applying for
(55:04):
it like it doesn't work this way in the real world and if you're
not going to prepare kids to the real world then we're
going to have a whole lot of people in the next generation that are just incapable
of achieving and that achievement is crucial for you again for your core strength
for your emotional stability they don't have that if you're never succeeding
(55:25):
and you're just getting getting getting and you're just entitled entitled entitled you're never
going to be able to achieve anything, you're going to bake it hard and you're
not going to be successful.
And with everything else that's going against them, with AI,
you're going to have to be a whole lot more creative with the kind of jobs that
we're going to have for these kids because so many of them are going to be replaced,
already are being replaced by AI.
We need to make sure that we are more logical than these computers, right?
(55:49):
Logical, not emotional and not as smart because they have a lot of data in them.
But we need to be more logical in the way that we think.
So we're going to be able to create these kind of jobs after the day after in five and 10 years.
Because, you know, being a writer, you're not going to need writers anymore
pretty soon with chat GPT.
I mean, all of these editors, logo designers, all of these things are going to be replaced by AI.
(56:11):
What are you going to do? We need to make sure that we prepare these kids to
think critically to be able to overcome this new challenge that they have.
And I don't think the schools are preparing them for that when they're all they're
dealing with is, and literally that's all they're dealing with,
LGBTQ, pronoun, critical race theory, social emotional learning. That's all they do.
It's a shame. You know, we only got a minute left, but to that,
(56:33):
I think the only way that we're going to be able to get one up on AI is we have
to remember AI has access to the whole library of world knowledge.
AI has access to the skill set, the technical knowledge of how to do basically everything.
It can construct and stylize anything any way it wants.
(56:54):
But what it really doesn't have and won't be able to master is a moral structure.
A sound philosophical basis.
And, you know, when it comes down to it, understanding at the heart,
you know, due to others as you'd have them do unto you or, you know,
what it is to be selfless or what it is to consider things in the light of,
(57:16):
you know, perhaps you subscribe to karma,
what goes around comes around or whatever you sow, you reap.
You know, machines can do away with all those silly notions and just pull through,
steamroll over whatever to get something done.
And but that is what makes us human. That is where the spirit of man comes in.
(57:36):
And that is something unique that you have as a human being that no machine
can actually truly replicate in fullness.
So with that, Sherry, I want to thank you for joining us.
Would you please share your social media, your website and any other way or
any other thing you'd like to get people connected to? Thank you. Yes.
(57:57):
So sapiraz.com, S-A-P-I-R-A-Z.com is my website.
My Twitter is my full name, S-H-I-R-Y, S-A-P-I-R, Sherry Sapir.
Yeah, please join us if you have any ideas, if you want to be involved in the
schools, if you want to run for school board, very important,
(58:18):
especially here in Arizona, we're helping you guys, training you.
So please reach out. We need as many boots on the ground to fight the fight
with us. Well, amen to that, sister.
So this has been Robert Wallace with Gays Against Groomers. If you're not following
us already on Twitter, please go.
I'm sorry. Go just look up at Gays Against Groomers. You'll find us there. We're on Instagram.
(58:41):
You can go to GaysAgainstGroomers.com. And if you have any questions,
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you can email podcast at gaysagainstgroomers.com.
So until next week, thanks for joining us.
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