March 1, 2025 • 26 mins
The Distracted Librarians podcast turns 1 today! On today's episode, Nicole, Drew, Killian, and Amanda reflect on the past year - what was expected, what wasn't, and where they'd like to go next!
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Nicole (00:00):
Hey there.
Welcome to "The DistractedLibrarians" podcast.
We are your friendly neighborhoodbookworms with a penchant
for all things pop culture.
Drew (00:10):
Picture this as our digital campfire,
where we dive into our latest obsessions,
analyze our favorite distractions,
and rediscover the joy of reading.
Killian (00:18):
Whether you're a media enthusiast, a book lover,
or just need a break from the daily grind,
you've come to the right spot.
Amanda (00:25):
So kick back, relax, and get delightfully distracted
with us.
Nicole (00:30):
Hey everybody.
On today's episode of "TheDistracted Librarians,"
we are celebrating our oneyear anniversary episode.
Drew (00:38):
Woo.
Nicole (00:39):
Yeah, it's been one year.
That's like crazy, right?
Killian (00:42):
It's wild.
It seems like longer and notthat long all at the same time.
Nicole (00:47):
There's a lot of mixed feelings.
Definitely.
Yeah.
So we're gonna kind of go over some of the things
that have happened over the past year
and I don't know, talk about some things
that we didn't expect andmaybe some things we'd like
to do in the future.
So what did we think podcastingwould be like when we
(01:07):
started?
Amanda, you're like the newest.
Amanda (01:10):
So I'm the newest, Nicole
It feels like this all happened very fast
because it's only been, well, almost
Drew (01:18):
It's been like almost seven, eight months, yeah.
Amanda (01:21):
Yeah, six months, I was gonna say,
there were a lot of things that I thought,
I think I was a little surprised about.
It is a conversational podcast,
but that's not necessarily easy.
So I think that
(01:41):
because we know each other as librarians,
or at least a certain extent,
Drew and Killian have knowneach other for longer.
Group (01:49):
Yeah.
Amanda (01:50):
I think that the conversation flows easier than you
think it would.
Which is really great.
And I think also becausemaybe it's a combination
of us like working in customer service
where it's like you'rejust used to talking
to people all day long anyway.
Nicole (02:07):
Absolutely.
Amanda (02:08):
But yeah, it's simultaneously
scarier than I thought it wouldbe to be in front of a mic
and also a little bit easierthan I thought it would be.
Nicole (02:21):
Oh, good.
Amanda (02:22):
If that makes sense.
Nicole Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I remember when we first started
and walking into thisroom for the first time
and having the microphone in front of me
and thinking, oh mygoodness, what have I done?
(group laughing)
But now, like, I love being here.
(02:42):
I think this is great.
It's nice to have a microphonein front of my face.
It's a little weird.
I didn't know that I wouldever really feel that way,
but like I kind of haveembraced it at this point
that I like doing this.
Drew (02:56):
Yeah, I know for me, this was the only part
that I was like,
actually prepared forwhen all of this was being
talked about,
I'd been, you know, recorded before.
And this wasn't the like, weird part.
The weird part was like thepromotion of the podcast
and the constantly having tocome up with episode topics
and like the generalmaintenance of the thing.
Nicole (03:16):
Sure.
Drew (03:17):
This was the part I was least concerned with.
Nicole (03:19):
Oh, okay.
Well, good for you.
Killian (03:21):
The microphone didn't really phase me.
I have been vaguely on the internet.
I exist.
I sit in front of a microphone
and play DD with my friends every week.
So I am used to a microphone.
My microphone is not nearly as nice.
But I think, yeah, the, I don't know,
for me, we've all talked about it
before, how weird it is tojust have that, like, oh,
(03:44):
we make this thing andwe have fun doing it,
but then people listen to it.
Nicole (03:48):
Yes.
Killian (03:49):
And like, it's very cool,
but it's just like, oh, every time
that hasn't gone away.
Nicole (03:54):
Sure, sure.
Amanda (03:55):
Does anyone dislike hearing their own voice?
Nicole (03:58):
I, it took me, I would say probably six months
of editing and orlistening to the episodes
after they came outfor me to just be like,
that's my voice.
And it's okay.
Amanda (04:12):
Yeah, yeah.
Nicole (04:13):
You know, it was like, I don't know.
When I was a kid, I'd hearmyself on a, you know,
somebody's answering machine,I'm taking it way back.
Amanda (04:21):
No, of course.
Nicole (04:22):
But like, I would hear my voice
and I'd say, oh my gosh, Ican't believe I sound like that.
And I'm sure so many people feel that way.
That is such a common thing.
But it's like I had to beinundated with it, my voice,
in order to finally justsay, okay, that's it.
And it's fine, it's okay.
Drew (04:40):
Yeah, I know, the first time I was, you know,
assigned captioning dutiesfor one of these episodes,
I put on the episode to startand Nicole starts the intro
and then I come in next in the intro,
I rage quit the program.
(group laughing)
I closed the tab with a quickness.
Nicole (04:58):
Oh my gosh
Drew (04:59):
because I was not emotionally prepared for it.
Nicole (05:02):
Yeah.
Amanda (05:03):
It takes some getting used to.
Nicole (05:04):
It really does.
Amanda (05:06):
Yeah.
I never was like a big fan of my voice,
but then listening to it, you'rejust like, oh gosh, that's
what I sound like sometimes.
And then you get sort of used to it
and it's a little bit easier.
And then there's likethis acceptance, surrender
to the whole.
Nicole (05:23):
Yeah.
And then, not to mention that
after time, I don't know,
but I feel like I'm alittle bit more conscious
of the way I speak now in a way.
Like, I'm trying to annunciate
and make sure that people can hear me
and I'm not just like,blah, blah, blah, blah.
Doing that kind of stuff.
So I think about it a littlebit more when I'm sitting here.
Killian (05:43):
Cannot wait for the captioning to pick up that
sound.
(group laughing)
Nicole (05:47):
Yeah, that'll be fun.
Somebody try to spell that out for us.
But yeah, I also kind
of thought we were gonnajust be in a closet at
the library somewhere
'cause there was no spacefor us to have a podcast.
There were a couple roomsthat we could potentially use
and we had some equipment.
But being able to be here at BCTV has been
really, really nice so.
Drew (06:09):
When I worked at Troy,
I recorded two podcast episodes there.
They have one there thattwo of the workers run.
And then they always bringin a guest every episode
to talk about their special thing.
I was there for the "Gilmore Girls"
and the "Mean Girls" episodes.
Nicole (06:24):
Okay.
Drew (06:24):
Because that's who I'm as a person.
Killian (06:26):
They are good episodes.
(group laughing)
Drew (06:29):
And they do it all in house.
Nicole (06:32):
Okay.
Drew (06:32):
So they have all of the microphone equipment there.
They set up the meeting roomspecifically for it that day
and like, set up and tear down.
They do all of the sound editing,
the captioning, all of it.
So that's a little bitof what I was expecting
coming into this project.
And I'm so happy thatis not our experience
that we've been ableto have this, you know,
(06:54):
community partnershipthat makes the gig easier.
Amanda (06:57):
And have we ever explained the whole dynamic of
how we come to BCTV?
We have a room that's already set up.
Really nice microphones.
Nicole (07:09):
Yeah, I mean, the podcast studio was created
before we even walked into the place.
And they've been really great with us.
And they edit for us.
We just do our captioning and post things
and then, that's that.
So we really kind ofhave like the cushy part
of the podcasting, you know,
but we have help so.
Killian (07:30):
The few things we've done where we have edited,
it's such a process.
And that was, Emily did a lot of
that and I did a lot of that.
And having done that, I'mso grateful we don't have
to do that for every episode.
Nicole (07:45):
Yes.
Drew (07:47):
Yeah, Emily editing the one
or two that she did waswhen I truly felt like
out of my depth in this.
Nicole (07:53):
Oh yeah, she really knew what she was doing.
For sure.
And I was like, yeah,someone's gonna have to like,
send me a video or something.
I don't, I don't know how to do that.
All right.
Did we have any bigsurprises along the way?
For me, it was the firsttime that I realized
that people were listening to us
that were not in this country.
That was, I was like, whoa,where did you find us?
(08:16):
So yeah.
If you're, if you're notfrom this country, hi.
Killian (08:20):
Hello, it's so wild.
Every time, like I'm a stats nerd.
I like looking at our podcast stats
and every time I see a newcountry, even a new state
that like we haven't seenbefore, pop up on there.
I'm just like, how did you find us?
I want to ask you, where'd you find us?
Nicole (08:37):
Yeah.
Killian (08:38):
Please tell us.
Nicole (08:39):
Yes, email us, let us know.
(group laughing)
Drew (08:42):
Mine was definitely the first time I had a
patron come up to me at the desk
And start talking about the podcast.
Nicole (08:47):
I love that.
Drew (08:49):
I am at the advantage, disadvantage,
however you look at it, of being A,
the only guy on the podcast
and B, the only malelibrarian in the library.
So I think it's pretty, youknow, apparent that it's me.
You know, the rest ofthe people in the group,
people would have to know your name,
(09:09):
like follow you at leasta little to put the name
to the face or put thevoice to the face, whatever.
I don't have that distance,
so the first interactionthat I had was like six
or seven episodes in witha member of the friends.
Nicole (09:22):
Okay.
Drew (09:23):
And that was wild.
You know, A, just the having to remember
and defend the positionthat I took in whatever
that episode was that was recorded
three or four months prior.
But also just like theconcept of the engagement.
Like it's so easy to come into this room
(09:45):
that is empty except forus and put out the episodes
and, you know, feel fulfilledin the project overall,
but not really acknowledge that
there are people on the other end of it.
And that's been the weirdest thing
that we actually like have listeners.
Nicole (09:59):
Well, and I've gotten
so many random texts from otherstaff members saying like,
I wanted to, you know, shout at you
and tell you exactly how Ifelt about the thing you said.
And I'm like, well, you'redoing it so good for you.
Drew (10:12):
Right now.
Nicole (10:13):
Yeah, so, or people chasing me down the hall
and saying, I have feelings.
I'm like, okay, let's talk.
So, I don't know, Ithink that's really cool
'cause it also, it bringsstaff closer to us too.
They get to know us in adifferent way that they might not,
you know, just from working together,
being in different departments, et cetera.
Killian (10:32):
Well and especially it lets us talk about things
outside of what we specificallydo in our departments.
Like Nicole and I don'talways talk about kids books.
And stuff with youth.
We are whole people
who have opinions on other things too.
But we don't always get to talk
about those at work.
So, you know, peopleget to kinda get to know
(10:52):
that side of us as well.
Nicole (10:54):
Definitely.
So what are some kind oflike unforeseen issues
that we might have had along the way?
Amanda (11:03):
So I've been told I have a difficult time getting
close enough to the mic.
So surprisingly,
I guess mic distance andprojection is important.
Not very surprisingly.
So that's been a learning curve for me.
And that's like, so, so basic.
(11:24):
But along with that is like,are you projecting enough?
Are you enunciating enough?
How are you presenting yourself?
It's taking me back to communications 101.
And I think that's actually really useful
as a reminder in general.
But you know, of course wewant to be our best selves
(11:47):
on here because we want people to listen.
Nicole (11:50):
Yeah.
That I think ties intowhat I have seen is that
just being professional
and trying to keep a certain level
of professionalism in our conversations,
'cause we are people like we said before.
And you know, just makingsure that some of the topics
that we bring here, like get the respect
that they really deserve from us so
(12:12):
that we can either educate our audience
or just kind of, you know,
put it out there in a tasteful way.
Yeah.
Drew (12:20):
I know for me the scheduling
of it all was the hardestaspect and I didn't expect that
because we locked down this time.
We have a set recording time
that we've made sure months in advance
that all of us are clear for.
And I figured that'd be the easy part.
But with the episode releasing
and we do two episodes a month
(12:40):
and you know, making surethat someone is available
and isn't too bogged downwith programs or vacations
or what have you to captionthe episode, to put it up
on podbean and YouTube.
All of it.
Every step of it.
There have been, you know, a couple of,
you know, March 13-14swhere we're like, oh my God,
(13:02):
there's an episode coming out in two days.
Killian (13:04):
Who's captioning this?
Nicole (13:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Killian (13:08):
For me, like because I handle the social media
stuff for it because it's partof what I do at the library
anyway, just kind of thescheduling of that also
because we put that intoa scheduling system.
But I have to actually do it before then
and put it into the scheduling system.
And I usually do like websiteposts at the same time.
And there have definitely been like, oh,
(13:32):
this comes out 12 hours from now when
I need to get this scheduled.
Drew (13:36):
Yep.
Nicole (13:37):
Yeah.
Killian (13:38):
Not quite 12 hours, like 15 hours.
But it's, oh yeah, the 15th is tomorrow.
What is time?
Nicole (13:47):
Yeah.
So what are some things thatwe might do differently?
Like if we could go back
and make any changes, what would we do?
I think personally for me,
when we did our bookstore adventure,
I would've made surewe had two microphones,
'cause we were taping ourselves in a car.
(14:11):
There were two of ussitting in the front seat
and two of us sitting in the backseat.
And we had one tiny littleportable microphone in the middle
of the car between thefour of us that we were not
so good at projecting at.
And so listening to itafter I was like, Emily
and I sound like we'respeaking from a tin can
(14:32):
and you guys sounded Drewand Killian sounded great,
but we had so much tosay and it was so good.
I just wanted it to sound better.
Drew (14:39):
Yeah, in hindsight we really did put the microphone
down in between the twopeople whose voice carries.
Killian (14:44):
Yeah.
(group laughing)
Oops.
Nicole (14:47):
Not our best moment, but we tried something
different and I'm likeso glad that we did it
'cause it was really, really fun.
So any tweaks that we woulddo for like future episodes
or, I mean personally I wouldget us another microphone.
Drew (15:02):
Yeah.
Amanda (15:03):
I know, so since we record on a schedule
and we record a couple episodesat a time, it's sort of hard
to be timely if something happens,
say in world events or in the news
and you want to be ableto do something that sort
of compliments that.
It's like really hard to do.
Nicole (15:24):
It can be, yeah.
Amanda (15:25):
I don't know if there's a solution for that,
but similarly, if there isa special month or an event
and we haven't givenenough leeway to be able to
prep that episode, schedulethe recording, record it,
and then process it for distribution,
(15:46):
we may have missed our chance.
So I think it's one ofthose things where we
work ahead of time.
I wish we could somehow belike a little bit more timely,
but also maybe like plan out like.
Nicole (15:59):
Clairvoyant.
Clairvoyant.
Just be able to see into the future
and plan out what was happening.
Amanda (16:04):
A year ahead maybe.
Nicole (16:05):
Yeah.
Amanda (16:07):
Which is like really difficult
because on top of the podcast recording,
we're planning summer reading.
Drew (16:14):
Exactly.
Amanda (16:15):
In like February.
And so there's all these things
where you're lookingahead working six months
to a year ahead.
So I wish we would maybedo a little bit more of
that while also havingthe constraints of, well
we have, this is one sort
of small aspect of our job.
(16:37):
Right, so like there's the other things
that the day-to-day, the programming,
the collection development,these other like timelines
that we are also dealing with that
maybe take precedent to this.
Hate to say that otherthings take precedent,
but I think they do.
But yeah, sort of like thepush and pull of being timely,
(16:59):
but planning like way ahead in the future.
Killian (17:03):
Well and this is a little peek behind the curtain.
The episodes don't always come out in the
order we record them in.
Nicole (17:09):
Yes.
Killian (17:11):
So we sometimes manage to be a little more timely.
This episode, for example,
we're recording at the end of February
to come out at the beginning of March
for that one year anniversary.
Nicole (17:23):
I think this is the closest turnaround
that we will ever have ever done.
Killian (17:25):
It's terrifying.
Nicole (17:27):
A little.
Killian (17:28):
A little stressful, a little bit scary.
But we've had some, some quickturnarounds on things before
and I think the ability to be
that flexible is something I wasn't
necessarily fully expecting.
But the fact that wehave some episode topics
that we're like, yeah, thiscan kind of go anywhere.
Nicole (17:43):
Anywhere, yeah.
Killian (17:44):
So if we need to push it for something, we can.
But still, if something comes up
and we don't have a recordingdate right away it's hard to
be as timely as we might like.
Nicole (17:54):
When we started, we had no idea how to do that at
all.
Killian (17:58):
No.
Nicole (17:59):
We did not have a schedule at all.
So like it took us, whata good six to nine months
before we were like, ohhey, we should do an episode
for this particular time period.
It's happening slowly.
Killian (18:12):
I think it was the Halloween stuff.
Nicole (18:14):
Oh, it was the Halloween stuff.
Killian (18:15):
That finally was like a little bit planned ahead.
Nicole (18:17):
Oh, an SRP, Summer Reading Program.
Killian (18:20):
Yep, that happened too.
Drew (18:22):
I know the game changer for me was when we
established the Teams group chat
because you know, we're allon on very different schedules
and even if we are in thebuilding at the same time,
I may be on morning desk shift,
you may be on afternoon desk shift
and we still don't reallyget a chance to talk.
So the establishing of like this thing
that Emily could put herthoughts into on her Monday night
(18:45):
closes and then we couldrespond Tuesday morning.
Total game changer.
Nicole (18:51):
It's been really nice.
Also, that whole chat iskind of crazy sometimes
because we are who we are.
But anyway, so I am really proud to say
that we have 1700downloads of our podcast,
which is wonderful.
I believe we have 24 episodes.
(19:11):
I think it was 24 when I looked.
Drew (19:14):
Because that's a full year, yeah.
Nicole (19:15):
Which I think is fantastic.
Amanda (19:17):
That's an accomplishment.
Nicole (19:18):
Really exciting.
And you know, some
of our favorite episodeshave been Guilty Pleasures on
YouTube is one of ourmost popular episodes.
And then our intro episode hasbeen our most popular on all
of the other streaming services.
Killian (19:37):
It's always fun to see when we release a new
episode and that will get, you know,
the day we releaseepisodes is there's always
a spike in listeners, but we'll also see,
we see what episodespeople are listening to
and seeing people go backand listen to that intro
'cause maybe they found us for a topic
and then they're like,oh, who are these people?
And I'm just like, hi, welcome every time.
(20:01):
It's just really cool to belike, oh, they were like,
I'm obviously assuming thatsomeone was interested enough in
what we were saying in thatepisode that they did find
to then go back and listen to that intro.
Or they were like, I'mgonna listen to the intro
before I listen to thistopic I'm interested in
because I want to knowwho these people are
and where they're coming from.
And that's just, that's really cool.
Nicole (20:18):
It is really cool.
Drew (20:19):
My favorite thing looking at the stats is
that there's always anotherbump like four or five days
after the episode comes out.
I assume when like Spotify or Apple
or whatever figure out how
to market us within the algorithm.
Nicole (20:32):
Yeah.
Do you guys have a favoriteepisode that we've done?
I'm sorry, I'm totally throwing this at at
all of you without any.
Amanda (20:42):
I would say the bookstore.
- Okay.
Nicole (20:45):
Yeah.
Amanda (20:46):
Bookstore Adventure.
Nicole (20:47):
Yeah, it was fun.
Killian (20:47):
I want to do that again that was fun.
I also really enjoyedour D and D episodes.
I have a love hate relationship with them
because I did do someof the editing of those
and that was a nightmare.
But that was also just a lotof fun to bring something
that I really enjoy
and to get to share it with you guys,
(21:09):
but also like, do that for podcast.
The podcast as part of myjob was just a lot of fun
of world's colliding.
Nicole (21:15):
It was super fun.
Drew (21:17):
Weirdly, my favorite was the other duties
as a signed episode that we did live.
Nicole (21:21):
I actually really liked that episode too.
Definitely.
Drew (21:24):
'Cause we were dreading it.
Nicole (21:25):
Yeah.
'Cause it was scary.
Killian (21:28):
We were so scared.
Nicole (21:28):
We're like, there's gonna be people looking at us
and like, we're kind ofdoing like a, I don't know,
like a 101 on podcasting,
but not really like wewere just doing it in front
of a studio audience,
but like also trying to make sure
that people were getting agood gist of what we're doing
and what it's like.
Drew (21:47):
And the subject matter was also a blast
because you know, youdon't think of, you know,
squirrel invasions in thelibrary as a part of our jobs.
Killian (21:55):
I tell that story so often.
Drew (21:57):
I know.
Killian (21:58):
I wasn't even there for it.
(group laughing)
Nicole (22:01):
My favorite episode was the Spooky Stories episode.
Killian (22:05):
That was a good time.
Nicole (22:06):
Even though it is so different than anything else
that we've done.
It was just so random andjust personal stories.
But it just made me really happy.
Killian (22:14):
I will never forget yours
and Emily's face at the part of
that story you hadn't already heard.
Nicole (22:18):
Yes, it was really good.
Drew (22:20):
I missed recording that episode
because I was sick so I made sure
that I would be the one to caption it,
so I could still experienceit and it was hilarious.
Nicole (22:29):
Yeah, it was really fun.
It was really fun.
We'll have to do another one this year.
Just, yeah.
Different stories.
Okay, does anybody have any hopes
or goals for the next year,our next year together?
I was thinking we need t-shirts.
Drew (22:46):
Absolutely.
Nicole (22:47):
I've been talking about that forever.
Killian (22:48):
I like that we have been talking about swag for so
long. We gotta actually do it.
We just gotta.
Amanda (22:53):
What about baseball caps?
Nicole (22:54):
Ooh.
Amanda (22:55):
Do you guys like hats?
I do.
Nicole (22:57):
I do.
I would wear a hat.
Drew's face says, no thank you.
Drew (23:02):
He has such lovely hair.
It would be ruining it.
Killian (23:05):
It would crush his hair.
Good for the hair.
Drew (23:08):
I could get one of the ones with the like
extended top so it just like sits top.
Nicole (23:13):
So it fit in there.
Amanda (23:15):
Or a visor.
Drew (23:16):
Ooh.
Killian (23:18):
There you go.
Nicole (23:19):
Bring the visor back.
Drew (23:20):
Soccer mom, sun visor, I'm down.
(group laughing)
Nicole (23:25):
Anything else?
Hopes and dreams.
Drew (23:27):
I would love to see continued staff involvement.
I think the best of episode
where we recorded the extra staff members
was a really, really cool thing.
And be that like guests
or like overall guestsor just quick things.
Whatever it happens to be.
(23:48):
I really liked that idea.
And I want to see us do more of that.
Killian (23:56):
I mean, I already said it,
I want to do thebookstore adventure again.
Version 2.0 with two microphones,
'cause I think there's someways to make that even more fun.
There's definitely more places to go.
Amanda (24:09):
Yeah, John K. King.
Have you been there?
Nicole (24:13):
Not the one downtown.
We did do the one that's in Ferndale.
Amanda (24:17):
So the one downtown is my favorite.
It's massive.
It's dusty.
Nicole (24:22):
It has the smell.
Amanda (24:23):
It has the smell.
I would just love to likedescribe for people what
that experience is like
and get people excited about that place
'cause it's really special.
Nicole (24:33):
They also have a special collection
that you can make an appointment to see.
Amanda (24:38):
Oh, cool.
Nicole (24:39):
Which I would like to make an appointment to see.
So maybe we should make that happen.
Amanda (24:43):
I think that's, yeah, that's a goal.
Killian (24:45):
If we do that again, I will be there
with my phone doing like vlog style
things for social media too.
Drew (24:50):
Absolutely.
Killian (24:51):
That will be a thing for the record.
Nicole (24:53):
I, and you know, another thing too is I would love
to collaborate with a bookstore.
I think that would be super fun.
So, you know, even, I knowwe've done our little tours
and we've kind of talkedabout the bookstores
and what we like aboutthem and everything,
but like if any bookstore, local,
independent is interested inworking with us, it would be
so fun to do something with you.
(25:14):
So let us know.
(group laughing)
All right.
Well thank you for listeningand we'll see you next time.
Thank you for joining us for this episode
of "Distracted Librarians."
Drew (25:27):
Many thanks to BCTV for their support in recording,
editing and releasing this podcast.
And to the friends of the library
for sponsoring closedcaptioning on every episode.
Killian (25:36):
If you have any questions
or suggestions, feel free to reach out
to us at distracted@btpl.org.
Amanda (25:43):
Until then, keep those pages turning
and those screens lighting up.
We'll catch you in the next episode.
Emily (25:50):
The views and opinions expressed in
"The Distracted Librarians" podcast
do not necessarily reflect those
of Bloomfield Township, BloomfieldTownship Public Library,
Bloomfield Community Television,
the Birmingham Area CableBoard, or its producers
or production staff.
Hey there.
Welcome to "The DistractedLibrarians" podcast.
We are your friendly neighborhoodbookworms with a penchant
for all things pop culture.
Drew (00:10):
Picture this as our digital campfire,
where we dive into our latest obsessions,
analyze our favorite distractions,
and rediscover the joy of reading.
Killian (00:18):
Whether you're a media enthusiast, a book lover,
or just need a break from the daily grind,
you've come to the right spot.
Amanda (00:25):
So kick back, relax, and get delightfully distracted
with us.
Nicole (00:30):
Hey everybody.
On today's episode of "TheDistracted Librarians,"
we are celebrating our oneyear anniversary episode.
Drew (00:38):
Woo.
Nicole (00:39):
Yeah, it's been one year.
That's like crazy, right?
Killian (00:42):
It's wild.
It seems like longer and notthat long all at the same time.
Nicole (00:47):
There's a lot of mixed feelings.
Definitely.
Yeah.
So we're gonna kind of go over some of the things
that have happened over the past year
and I don't know, talk about some things
that we didn't expect andmaybe some things we'd like
to do in the future.
So what did we think podcastingwould be like when we
(01:07):
started?
Amanda, you're like the newest.
Amanda (01:10):
So I'm the newest, Nicole
It feels like this all happened very fast
because it's only been, well, almost
Drew (01:18):
It's been like almost seven, eight months, yeah.
Amanda (01:21):
Yeah, six months, I was gonna say,
there were a lot of things that I thought,
I think I was a little surprised about.
It is a conversational podcast,
but that's not necessarily easy.
So I think that
(01:41):
because we know each other as librarians,
or at least a certain extent,
Drew and Killian have knowneach other for longer.
Group (01:49):
Yeah.
Amanda (01:50):
I think that the conversation flows easier than you
think it would.
Which is really great.
And I think also becausemaybe it's a combination
of us like working in customer service
where it's like you'rejust used to talking
to people all day long anyway.
Nicole (02:07):
Absolutely.
Amanda (02:08):
But yeah, it's simultaneously
scarier than I thought it wouldbe to be in front of a mic
and also a little bit easierthan I thought it would be.
Nicole (02:21):
Oh, good.
Amanda (02:22):
If that makes sense.
Nicole Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I remember when we first started
and walking into thisroom for the first time
and having the microphone in front of me
and thinking, oh mygoodness, what have I done?
(group laughing)
But now, like, I love being here.
(02:42):
I think this is great.
It's nice to have a microphonein front of my face.
It's a little weird.
I didn't know that I wouldever really feel that way,
but like I kind of haveembraced it at this point
that I like doing this.
Drew (02:56):
Yeah, I know for me, this was the only part
that I was like,
actually prepared forwhen all of this was being
talked about,
I'd been, you know, recorded before.
And this wasn't the like, weird part.
The weird part was like thepromotion of the podcast
and the constantly having tocome up with episode topics
and like the generalmaintenance of the thing.
Nicole (03:16):
Sure.
Drew (03:17):
This was the part I was least concerned with.
Nicole (03:19):
Oh, okay.
Well, good for you.
Killian (03:21):
The microphone didn't really phase me.
I have been vaguely on the internet.
I exist.
I sit in front of a microphone
and play DD with my friends every week.
So I am used to a microphone.
My microphone is not nearly as nice.
But I think, yeah, the, I don't know,
for me, we've all talked about it
before, how weird it is tojust have that, like, oh,
(03:44):
we make this thing andwe have fun doing it,
but then people listen to it.
Nicole (03:48):
Yes.
Killian (03:49):
And like, it's very cool,
but it's just like, oh, every time
that hasn't gone away.
Nicole (03:54):
Sure, sure.
Amanda (03:55):
Does anyone dislike hearing their own voice?
Nicole (03:58):
I, it took me, I would say probably six months
of editing and orlistening to the episodes
after they came outfor me to just be like,
that's my voice.
And it's okay.
Amanda (04:12):
Yeah, yeah.
Nicole (04:13):
You know, it was like, I don't know.
When I was a kid, I'd hearmyself on a, you know,
somebody's answering machine,I'm taking it way back.
Amanda (04:21):
No, of course.
Nicole (04:22):
But like, I would hear my voice
and I'd say, oh my gosh, Ican't believe I sound like that.
And I'm sure so many people feel that way.
That is such a common thing.
But it's like I had to beinundated with it, my voice,
in order to finally justsay, okay, that's it.
And it's fine, it's okay.
Drew (04:40):
Yeah, I know, the first time I was, you know,
assigned captioning dutiesfor one of these episodes,
I put on the episode to startand Nicole starts the intro
and then I come in next in the intro,
I rage quit the program.
(group laughing)
I closed the tab with a quickness.
Nicole (04:58):
Oh my gosh
Drew (04:59):
because I was not emotionally prepared for it.
Nicole (05:02):
Yeah.
Amanda (05:03):
It takes some getting used to.
Nicole (05:04):
It really does.
Amanda (05:06):
Yeah.
I never was like a big fan of my voice,
but then listening to it, you'rejust like, oh gosh, that's
what I sound like sometimes.
And then you get sort of used to it
and it's a little bit easier.
And then there's likethis acceptance, surrender
to the whole.
Nicole (05:23):
Yeah.
And then, not to mention that
after time, I don't know,
but I feel like I'm alittle bit more conscious
of the way I speak now in a way.
Like, I'm trying to annunciate
and make sure that people can hear me
and I'm not just like,blah, blah, blah, blah.
Doing that kind of stuff.
So I think about it a littlebit more when I'm sitting here.
Killian (05:43):
Cannot wait for the captioning to pick up that
sound.
(group laughing)
Nicole (05:47):
Yeah, that'll be fun.
Somebody try to spell that out for us.
But yeah, I also kind
of thought we were gonnajust be in a closet at
the library somewhere
'cause there was no spacefor us to have a podcast.
There were a couple roomsthat we could potentially use
and we had some equipment.
But being able to be here at BCTV has been
really, really nice so.
Drew (06:09):
When I worked at Troy,
I recorded two podcast episodes there.
They have one there thattwo of the workers run.
And then they always bringin a guest every episode
to talk about their special thing.
I was there for the "Gilmore Girls"
and the "Mean Girls" episodes.
Nicole (06:24):
Okay.
Drew (06:24):
Because that's who I'm as a person.
Killian (06:26):
They are good episodes.
(group laughing)
Drew (06:29):
And they do it all in house.
Nicole (06:32):
Okay.
Drew (06:32):
So they have all of the microphone equipment there.
They set up the meeting roomspecifically for it that day
and like, set up and tear down.
They do all of the sound editing,
the captioning, all of it.
So that's a little bitof what I was expecting
coming into this project.
And I'm so happy thatis not our experience
that we've been ableto have this, you know,
(06:54):
community partnershipthat makes the gig easier.
Amanda (06:57):
And have we ever explained the whole dynamic of
how we come to BCTV?
We have a room that's already set up.
Really nice microphones.
Nicole (07:09):
Yeah, I mean, the podcast studio was created
before we even walked into the place.
And they've been really great with us.
And they edit for us.
We just do our captioning and post things
and then, that's that.
So we really kind ofhave like the cushy part
of the podcasting, you know,
but we have help so.
Killian (07:30):
The few things we've done where we have edited,
it's such a process.
And that was, Emily did a lot of
that and I did a lot of that.
And having done that, I'mso grateful we don't have
to do that for every episode.
Nicole (07:45):
Yes.
Drew (07:47):
Yeah, Emily editing the one
or two that she did waswhen I truly felt like
out of my depth in this.
Nicole (07:53):
Oh yeah, she really knew what she was doing.
For sure.
And I was like, yeah,someone's gonna have to like,
send me a video or something.
I don't, I don't know how to do that.
All right.
Did we have any bigsurprises along the way?
For me, it was the firsttime that I realized
that people were listening to us
that were not in this country.
That was, I was like, whoa,where did you find us?
(08:16):
So yeah.
If you're, if you're notfrom this country, hi.
Killian (08:20):
Hello, it's so wild.
Every time, like I'm a stats nerd.
I like looking at our podcast stats
and every time I see a newcountry, even a new state
that like we haven't seenbefore, pop up on there.
I'm just like, how did you find us?
I want to ask you, where'd you find us?
Nicole (08:37):
Yeah.
Killian (08:38):
Please tell us.
Nicole (08:39):
Yes, email us, let us know.
(group laughing)
Drew (08:42):
Mine was definitely the first time I had a
patron come up to me at the desk
And start talking about the podcast.
Nicole (08:47):
I love that.
Drew (08:49):
I am at the advantage, disadvantage,
however you look at it, of being A,
the only guy on the podcast
and B, the only malelibrarian in the library.
So I think it's pretty, youknow, apparent that it's me.
You know, the rest ofthe people in the group,
people would have to know your name,
(09:09):
like follow you at leasta little to put the name
to the face or put thevoice to the face, whatever.
I don't have that distance,
so the first interactionthat I had was like six
or seven episodes in witha member of the friends.
Nicole (09:22):
Okay.
Drew (09:23):
And that was wild.
You know, A, just the having to remember
and defend the positionthat I took in whatever
that episode was that was recorded
three or four months prior.
But also just like theconcept of the engagement.
Like it's so easy to come into this room
(09:45):
that is empty except forus and put out the episodes
and, you know, feel fulfilledin the project overall,
but not really acknowledge that
there are people on the other end of it.
And that's been the weirdest thing
that we actually like have listeners.
Nicole (09:59):
Well, and I've gotten
so many random texts from otherstaff members saying like,
I wanted to, you know, shout at you
and tell you exactly how Ifelt about the thing you said.
And I'm like, well, you'redoing it so good for you.
Drew (10:12):
Right now.
Nicole (10:13):
Yeah, so, or people chasing me down the hall
and saying, I have feelings.
I'm like, okay, let's talk.
So, I don't know, Ithink that's really cool
'cause it also, it bringsstaff closer to us too.
They get to know us in adifferent way that they might not,
you know, just from working together,
being in different departments, et cetera.
Killian (10:32):
Well and especially it lets us talk about things
outside of what we specificallydo in our departments.
Like Nicole and I don'talways talk about kids books.
And stuff with youth.
We are whole people
who have opinions on other things too.
But we don't always get to talk
about those at work.
So, you know, peopleget to kinda get to know
(10:52):
that side of us as well.
Nicole (10:54):
Definitely.
So what are some kind oflike unforeseen issues
that we might have had along the way?
Amanda (11:03):
So I've been told I have a difficult time getting
close enough to the mic.
So surprisingly,
I guess mic distance andprojection is important.
Not very surprisingly.
So that's been a learning curve for me.
And that's like, so, so basic.
(11:24):
But along with that is like,are you projecting enough?
Are you enunciating enough?
How are you presenting yourself?
It's taking me back to communications 101.
And I think that's actually really useful
as a reminder in general.
But you know, of course wewant to be our best selves
(11:47):
on here because we want people to listen.
Nicole (11:50):
Yeah.
That I think ties intowhat I have seen is that
just being professional
and trying to keep a certain level
of professionalism in our conversations,
'cause we are people like we said before.
And you know, just makingsure that some of the topics
that we bring here, like get the respect
that they really deserve from us so
(12:12):
that we can either educate our audience
or just kind of, you know,
put it out there in a tasteful way.
Yeah.
Drew (12:20):
I know for me the scheduling
of it all was the hardestaspect and I didn't expect that
because we locked down this time.
We have a set recording time
that we've made sure months in advance
that all of us are clear for.
And I figured that'd be the easy part.
But with the episode releasing
and we do two episodes a month
(12:40):
and you know, making surethat someone is available
and isn't too bogged downwith programs or vacations
or what have you to captionthe episode, to put it up
on podbean and YouTube.
All of it.
Every step of it.
There have been, you know, a couple of,
you know, March 13-14swhere we're like, oh my God,
(13:02):
there's an episode coming out in two days.
Killian (13:04):
Who's captioning this?
Nicole (13:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Killian (13:08):
For me, like because I handle the social media
stuff for it because it's partof what I do at the library
anyway, just kind of thescheduling of that also
because we put that intoa scheduling system.
But I have to actually do it before then
and put it into the scheduling system.
And I usually do like websiteposts at the same time.
And there have definitely been like, oh,
(13:32):
this comes out 12 hours from now when
I need to get this scheduled.
Drew (13:36):
Yep.
Nicole (13:37):
Yeah.
Killian (13:38):
Not quite 12 hours, like 15 hours.
But it's, oh yeah, the 15th is tomorrow.
What is time?
Nicole (13:47):
Yeah.
So what are some things thatwe might do differently?
Like if we could go back
and make any changes, what would we do?
I think personally for me,
when we did our bookstore adventure,
I would've made surewe had two microphones,
'cause we were taping ourselves in a car.
(14:11):
There were two of ussitting in the front seat
and two of us sitting in the backseat.
And we had one tiny littleportable microphone in the middle
of the car between thefour of us that we were not
so good at projecting at.
And so listening to itafter I was like, Emily
and I sound like we'respeaking from a tin can
(14:32):
and you guys sounded Drewand Killian sounded great,
but we had so much tosay and it was so good.
I just wanted it to sound better.
Drew (14:39):
Yeah, in hindsight we really did put the microphone
down in between the twopeople whose voice carries.
Killian (14:44):
Yeah.
(group laughing)
Oops.
Nicole (14:47):
Not our best moment, but we tried something
different and I'm likeso glad that we did it
'cause it was really, really fun.
So any tweaks that we woulddo for like future episodes
or, I mean personally I wouldget us another microphone.
Drew (15:02):
Yeah.
Amanda (15:03):
I know, so since we record on a schedule
and we record a couple episodesat a time, it's sort of hard
to be timely if something happens,
say in world events or in the news
and you want to be ableto do something that sort
of compliments that.
It's like really hard to do.
Nicole (15:24):
It can be, yeah.
Amanda (15:25):
I don't know if there's a solution for that,
but similarly, if there isa special month or an event
and we haven't givenenough leeway to be able to
prep that episode, schedulethe recording, record it,
and then process it for distribution,
(15:46):
we may have missed our chance.
So I think it's one ofthose things where we
work ahead of time.
I wish we could somehow belike a little bit more timely,
but also maybe like plan out like.
Nicole (15:59):
Clairvoyant.
Clairvoyant.
Just be able to see into the future
and plan out what was happening.
Amanda (16:04):
A year ahead maybe.
Nicole (16:05):
Yeah.
Amanda (16:07):
Which is like really difficult
because on top of the podcast recording,
we're planning summer reading.
Drew (16:14):
Exactly.
Amanda (16:15):
In like February.
And so there's all these things
where you're lookingahead working six months
to a year ahead.
So I wish we would maybedo a little bit more of
that while also havingthe constraints of, well
we have, this is one sort
of small aspect of our job.
(16:37):
Right, so like there's the other things
that the day-to-day, the programming,
the collection development,these other like timelines
that we are also dealing with that
maybe take precedent to this.
Hate to say that otherthings take precedent,
but I think they do.
But yeah, sort of like thepush and pull of being timely,
(16:59):
but planning like way ahead in the future.
Killian (17:03):
Well and this is a little peek behind the curtain.
The episodes don't always come out in the
order we record them in.
Nicole (17:09):
Yes.
Killian (17:11):
So we sometimes manage to be a little more timely.
This episode, for example,
we're recording at the end of February
to come out at the beginning of March
for that one year anniversary.
Nicole (17:23):
I think this is the closest turnaround
that we will ever have ever done.
Killian (17:25):
It's terrifying.
Nicole (17:27):
A little.
Killian (17:28):
A little stressful, a little bit scary.
But we've had some, some quickturnarounds on things before
and I think the ability to be
that flexible is something I wasn't
necessarily fully expecting.
But the fact that wehave some episode topics
that we're like, yeah, thiscan kind of go anywhere.
Nicole (17:43):
Anywhere, yeah.
Killian (17:44):
So if we need to push it for something, we can.
But still, if something comes up
and we don't have a recordingdate right away it's hard to
be as timely as we might like.
Nicole (17:54):
When we started, we had no idea how to do that at
all.
Killian (17:58):
No.
Nicole (17:59):
We did not have a schedule at all.
So like it took us, whata good six to nine months
before we were like, ohhey, we should do an episode
for this particular time period.
It's happening slowly.
Killian (18:12):
I think it was the Halloween stuff.
Nicole (18:14):
Oh, it was the Halloween stuff.
Killian (18:15):
That finally was like a little bit planned ahead.
Nicole (18:17):
Oh, an SRP, Summer Reading Program.
Killian (18:20):
Yep, that happened too.
Drew (18:22):
I know the game changer for me was when we
established the Teams group chat
because you know, we're allon on very different schedules
and even if we are in thebuilding at the same time,
I may be on morning desk shift,
you may be on afternoon desk shift
and we still don't reallyget a chance to talk.
So the establishing of like this thing
that Emily could put herthoughts into on her Monday night
(18:45):
closes and then we couldrespond Tuesday morning.
Total game changer.
Nicole (18:51):
It's been really nice.
Also, that whole chat iskind of crazy sometimes
because we are who we are.
But anyway, so I am really proud to say
that we have 1700downloads of our podcast,
which is wonderful.
I believe we have 24 episodes.
(19:11):
I think it was 24 when I looked.
Drew (19:14):
Because that's a full year, yeah.
Nicole (19:15):
Which I think is fantastic.
Amanda (19:17):
That's an accomplishment.
Nicole (19:18):
Really exciting.
And you know, some
of our favorite episodeshave been Guilty Pleasures on
YouTube is one of ourmost popular episodes.
And then our intro episode hasbeen our most popular on all
of the other streaming services.
Killian (19:37):
It's always fun to see when we release a new
episode and that will get, you know,
the day we releaseepisodes is there's always
a spike in listeners, but we'll also see,
we see what episodespeople are listening to
and seeing people go backand listen to that intro
'cause maybe they found us for a topic
and then they're like,oh, who are these people?
And I'm just like, hi, welcome every time.
(20:01):
It's just really cool to belike, oh, they were like,
I'm obviously assuming thatsomeone was interested enough in
what we were saying in thatepisode that they did find
to then go back and listen to that intro.
Or they were like, I'mgonna listen to the intro
before I listen to thistopic I'm interested in
because I want to knowwho these people are
and where they're coming from.
And that's just, that's really cool.
Nicole (20:18):
It is really cool.
Drew (20:19):
My favorite thing looking at the stats is
that there's always anotherbump like four or five days
after the episode comes out.
I assume when like Spotify or Apple
or whatever figure out how
to market us within the algorithm.
Nicole (20:32):
Yeah.
Do you guys have a favoriteepisode that we've done?
I'm sorry, I'm totally throwing this at at
all of you without any.
Amanda (20:42):
I would say the bookstore.
- Okay.
Nicole (20:45):
Yeah.
Amanda (20:46):
Bookstore Adventure.
Nicole (20:47):
Yeah, it was fun.
Killian (20:47):
I want to do that again that was fun.
I also really enjoyedour D and D episodes.
I have a love hate relationship with them
because I did do someof the editing of those
and that was a nightmare.
But that was also just a lotof fun to bring something
that I really enjoy
and to get to share it with you guys,
(21:09):
but also like, do that for podcast.
The podcast as part of myjob was just a lot of fun
of world's colliding.
Nicole (21:15):
It was super fun.
Drew (21:17):
Weirdly, my favorite was the other duties
as a signed episode that we did live.
Nicole (21:21):
I actually really liked that episode too.
Definitely.
Drew (21:24):
'Cause we were dreading it.
Nicole (21:25):
Yeah.
'Cause it was scary.
Killian (21:28):
We were so scared.
Nicole (21:28):
We're like, there's gonna be people looking at us
and like, we're kind ofdoing like a, I don't know,
like a 101 on podcasting,
but not really like wewere just doing it in front
of a studio audience,
but like also trying to make sure
that people were getting agood gist of what we're doing
and what it's like.
Drew (21:47):
And the subject matter was also a blast
because you know, youdon't think of, you know,
squirrel invasions in thelibrary as a part of our jobs.
Killian (21:55):
I tell that story so often.
Drew (21:57):
I know.
Killian (21:58):
I wasn't even there for it.
(group laughing)
Nicole (22:01):
My favorite episode was the Spooky Stories episode.
Killian (22:05):
That was a good time.
Nicole (22:06):
Even though it is so different than anything else
that we've done.
It was just so random andjust personal stories.
But it just made me really happy.
Killian (22:14):
I will never forget yours
and Emily's face at the part of
that story you hadn't already heard.
Nicole (22:18):
Yes, it was really good.
Drew (22:20):
I missed recording that episode
because I was sick so I made sure
that I would be the one to caption it,
so I could still experienceit and it was hilarious.
Nicole (22:29):
Yeah, it was really fun.
It was really fun.
We'll have to do another one this year.
Just, yeah.
Different stories.
Okay, does anybody have any hopes
or goals for the next year,our next year together?
I was thinking we need t-shirts.
Drew (22:46):
Absolutely.
Nicole (22:47):
I've been talking about that forever.
Killian (22:48):
I like that we have been talking about swag for so
long. We gotta actually do it.
We just gotta.
Amanda (22:53):
What about baseball caps?
Nicole (22:54):
Ooh.
Amanda (22:55):
Do you guys like hats?
I do.
Nicole (22:57):
I do.
I would wear a hat.
Drew's face says, no thank you.
Drew (23:02):
He has such lovely hair.
It would be ruining it.
Killian (23:05):
It would crush his hair.
Good for the hair.
Drew (23:08):
I could get one of the ones with the like
extended top so it just like sits top.
Nicole (23:13):
So it fit in there.
Amanda (23:15):
Or a visor.
Drew (23:16):
Ooh.
Killian (23:18):
There you go.
Nicole (23:19):
Bring the visor back.
Drew (23:20):
Soccer mom, sun visor, I'm down.
(group laughing)
Nicole (23:25):
Anything else?
Hopes and dreams.
Drew (23:27):
I would love to see continued staff involvement.
I think the best of episode
where we recorded the extra staff members
was a really, really cool thing.
And be that like guests
or like overall guestsor just quick things.
Whatever it happens to be.
(23:48):
I really liked that idea.
And I want to see us do more of that.
Killian (23:56):
I mean, I already said it,
I want to do thebookstore adventure again.
Version 2.0 with two microphones,
'cause I think there's someways to make that even more fun.
There's definitely more places to go.
Amanda (24:09):
Yeah, John K. King.
Have you been there?
Nicole (24:13):
Not the one downtown.
We did do the one that's in Ferndale.
Amanda (24:17):
So the one downtown is my favorite.
It's massive.
It's dusty.
Nicole (24:22):
It has the smell.
Amanda (24:23):
It has the smell.
I would just love to likedescribe for people what
that experience is like
and get people excited about that place
'cause it's really special.
Nicole (24:33):
They also have a special collection
that you can make an appointment to see.
Amanda (24:38):
Oh, cool.
Nicole (24:39):
Which I would like to make an appointment to see.
So maybe we should make that happen.
Amanda (24:43):
I think that's, yeah, that's a goal.
Killian (24:45):
If we do that again, I will be there
with my phone doing like vlog style
things for social media too.
Drew (24:50):
Absolutely.
Killian (24:51):
That will be a thing for the record.
Nicole (24:53):
I, and you know, another thing too is I would love
to collaborate with a bookstore.
I think that would be super fun.
So, you know, even, I knowwe've done our little tours
and we've kind of talkedabout the bookstores
and what we like aboutthem and everything,
but like if any bookstore, local,
independent is interested inworking with us, it would be
so fun to do something with you.
(25:14):
So let us know.
(group laughing)
All right.
Well thank you for listeningand we'll see you next time.
Thank you for joining us for this episode
of "Distracted Librarians."
Drew (25:27):
Many thanks to BCTV for their support in recording,
editing and releasing this podcast.
And to the friends of the library
for sponsoring closedcaptioning on every episode.
Killian (25:36):
If you have any questions
or suggestions, feel free to reach out
to us at distracted@btpl.org.
Amanda (25:43):
Until then, keep those pages turning
and those screens lighting up.
We'll catch you in the next episode.
Emily (25:50):
The views and opinions expressed in
"The Distracted Librarians" podcast
do not necessarily reflect those
of Bloomfield Township, BloomfieldTownship Public Library,
Bloomfield Community Television,
the Birmingham Area CableBoard, or its producers
or production staff.
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