April 15, 2025 • 31 mins
Love 'em or hate 'em, it's hard not to have an opinion about Disney movies - and the Distracted Librarians are no exception! On today's episode, Nicole, Drew, Killian, and Amanda discuss their favorites (and maybe some they aren't so fond of).
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Nicole (00:00):
Hey there.
Welcome to the "DistractedLibrarians" podcast.
We are your friendlyneighborhood bookworms
with a penchant forall things pop culture.
Drew (00:10):
Picture this as our digital campfire
where we dive into our latest obsessions,
analyze our favorite distractions,
and rediscover the joy of reading.
Killian (00:18):
Whether you're a media enthusiast, a book lover,
or just need a break from the daily grind,
you've come to the right spot.
Amanda (00:25):
So kick back, relax,
and get delightfully distracted with us.
Nicole (00:30):
Hey, everybody.
On today's episode of "TheDistracted Librarians,"
we are gonna be talkingabout Disney movies.
Drew (00:37):
Finally.
Nicole (00:39):
Not just Disney movies,
but we're gonna do three movies we loved
and one that we didn't love.
That's the nicest wayof saying that, right?
(participants laughing)
Drew (00:50):
One that missed us culturally.
Nicole (00:52):
There we go, yes.
So who wants to start?
Amanda (00:57):
I'll start 'cause I have a feeling mine is gonna be
the first in chronological order.
Nicole (01:02):
Oh, wow. Amanda
(participants laughing)
So my favorite is "Fantasia."
Okay. Amanda
which I think...
I didn't realize it was made so early.
And looking back, I'm like,"This is ahead of its time,
"like by a lot."
Just like so many beautifulvisuals set to classical music.
(01:27):
The other thing that Ididn't realize is that
when I watched "Fantasia" as a kid,
it started with "Peter and the Wolf."
Does anyone remember that segment of it?
Yes.
Amanda (01:41):
So that wasn't in the original.
Nicole (01:42):
Oh. Amanda
like short that was madein 1946 that ended up being
added onto like the video distribution.
Oh, okay.
Amanda (01:57):
So it's not actually part of "Fantasia."
It's like an extra short added on.
Nicole (02:02):
Oh, interesting.
Amanda (02:03):
But "Peter and the Wolf" was also really
significant to me
because you have thispiece of classical music
that introduces charactersby different instruments.
One character is the oboe,
another character isthe clarinet, et cetera.
(02:27):
And I think that's such a interesting way
to experience music andtell a story with music.
And then also, who doesn'tlove ostriches and hippos?
Drew (02:41):
Right. Nicole
I love, love that so much.Amanda: Like performing a
ballet.
Just like pure fantasy,as the name suggests.
I love it.
My other favorite is "Dumbo," 1941.
Nicole (02:56):
Okay.
- I had a real love forelephants as a child
So there's that.
And there's just a couple of scenes in it.
And I haven't actually seenit since I was a child.
But like what I rememberis the mom of Dumbo
being separated from her kid
(03:18):
and then them reaching throughthe bars with their trunks
and like crying.Nicole: Yes.
Amanda (03:23):
And that is as emotional and impactful a moment
you can have as a child.
Nicole (03:28):
Yeah, absolutely. Amanda
And then we have "Pete's Dragon," 1977.
Oh, "Pete's Dragon." Amanda
action.
So that also felt super fresh as a child.
(participants laughing)
No, that was really exciting.
Amanda (03:48):
And I'm sure in the 1970s,
maybe that was also a new technique.
But every kid wants to believethat a dragon can appear.
Nicole (04:00):
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Amanda (04:01):
From a cave and be your friend.
And then they brought that to life.
Nicole (04:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
I know with "Dumbo," "Dumbo" comes
with mixed reviews
depending on, you know,like when you saw it.
You know, I was born in the '80s,
so like I saw it at a certain time.
And people that have seen itin other generations are like,
"Ah, there's some stuff therethat's a little weird or crazy
(04:26):
"and not necessarily neededfor a children's movie."
Amanda (04:30):
Should I do a rewatch, or no?
The other thing, like what hasactually aged appropriately?
Nicole (04:37):
I watched it, like I said, as a child
and then I showed it to my kids.
And there were some thingsthat didn't really translate.
Like I remember like loving that film.
And then my kids' reaction to it was not,
they did not have thatstrong love for it as I did.
(04:57):
So, I don't know.
Maybe it doesn't translateover the time and over period.
Killian (05:04):
And see, I know I've seen it,
but I couldn't tell you thestoryline of that movie.
Drew (05:09):
Me either.
Killian (05:10):
'Cause I didn't watch it regularly as a child.
I think I watched it maybe once or twice
and it did not stick.Nicole: Yeah.
I mean, I distinctly recallthe drunken elephant scene
where there's like multicoloredelephants and bubbles.
And, I mean, it seemspretty wild actually,
but very much like "Fantasia."
(05:30):
So I can kind of see.
Amanda (05:32):
Only one year apart. Nicole
What did your kids think of that scene?
Nicole (05:37):
They wanted to know what was going on.
Because they were pretty little.
And I was like, "All right, well children,
"we will talk about alcohol.
(participants laughing)
"This is what you don't do."
But anyway. (laughing)
Amanda (05:50):
In the 1940s, were these animated films
made for kids?
Or were they made for adultsor the family at large?
Nicole (05:57):
Probably for the family at large, I would say.
Because even in othermovies from that time,
like "Pinocchio," there's adrunken scene in "Pinocchio."
And it's like, now we're justmaking parents happy in a way.
Like, "Oh, there's thisthing that's going on."
'Cause those kids had nobusiness getting drunk
(06:19):
and smoking cigars and all of that.
So, yeah.
- Any other favorites?
Killian (06:28):
I'll talk about mine.
Mine are not deep cuts for favorites.
They are simply what they are,but for different reasons.
So one of the earliest favorites of mine,
which I am told was the firstmovie I ever saw in theaters,
which means I saw it when I was one.
I obviously do not remember this,
but it was "Little Mermaid."Nicole: Okay.
(06:49):
That movie had a huge impact on me as a kid.
I remember watching it almost every day
for a chunk of my life.
And every time "Kiss The Girl" came on,
I would stand on my dad's feet
and we would dance around the living room.
Nicole (07:06):
Aw, that's so cute. Killian
movie
and particularly that song
have always had a veryspecial place in my heart.
There are movies that Imight like the story more,
but the emotions attached to that one
put it up there on the list.
Totally.
Killian (07:24):
"Kingdom Hearts" Little Mermaid levels do
damage it some,
but that's another story.
I am also a book person,
and so I have to say"Beauty and the Beast."
Because the library.Amanda: Yes, that library.
(participants laughing)
Drew (07:44):
I had "Beauty and the Beast" on my list of three
and then realized I didn'twant to steal it from you
because you have actual merch.
(participants laughing)
Kililan (07:52):
I loved that movie.
I think it was the factthat there could be
a brown haired, like bookish princess.
And that was one of those...
Like seeing a characterthat looks like you
is really important,
and seeing a character thathas like interests like you
was very important.
(08:12):
And I simply love that movie.
And I was deeply upset.
As I got older, I was like,
"Oh, the differencebetween me and Belle is
"I cannot wear that much yellow."
(participants laughing)
Nicole (08:27):
Oh my gosh, there's so much yellow.
Killian (08:28):
Because I cannot, I cannot do yellow.
And I absolutely do notlike the color yellow.
So it's still like, you know, it's wild.
But I keep seeing,
I guess American Girl has put out a,
they put out a Collector'sEdition Belle doll a while ago.
It was like $300.
And I was like, "No."
But they're putting out a play version
that is the slightly more reasonable price
(08:52):
that as far as AmericanGirl Dolls go is, you know,
it's still expensive, butthey're putting out a Belle doll.
And I was like, "I could geta Belle American Girl doll."
So that might happen.
And then my last one ismy go-to anytime I'm like,
"I need to put something on the television
"and I don't know what it's going to be."
(09:14):
I will put "Hercules" on every time.
Drew experienced this living with me.
Drew (09:19):
Very openly confirmed. (participants laughing)
Killian (09:23):
And honestly, I would love to be able to be like,
"This is exactly why."
And I can't because I don't know why.
I just have, it's a comfort.
It's a good movie.
It has so little to dowith the actual mythology
of any of it.
So I can't even be like,
"I like Greek mythology, so I like this."
'Cause it's not.
(09:43):
But I like Meg, and I like the story,
and I like the music, andit just makes me happy.
And that's my thing with Disney stuff is
I don't often think too deeply about it.
I'm just like, I just wantwhat childhood me saw in it.
Nicole (10:01):
Yeah. Killian
for worse.
Sure, sure.
Drew (10:04):
All right, my absolute favorite of all time
will always be "TheGreat Mouse Detective."
It came out like threeyears before I was born.
Nicole (10:14):
I think we've mentioned this
on the podcast before, haven't we?
Drew (10:17):
Possibly.
Amanda (10:18):
Is it animated? Drew
Okay.
Nicole (10:21):
Is it Basil?
Drew (10:22):
Yes, Basil of Baker Street.
He lives in Sherlock Holmes's house
sort of Tom and Jerry style in the walls.
Amanda (10:31):
I'm trying to think if I've seen this.
Nicole (10:32):
I know I've seen it.
I can't remember it ingreat detail though.
Drew (10:37):
The villain is named Professor Ratigan.
And he is like a conman
trying to break into the upperechelon of mouse society.
So his like big affront iswhen people call him a rat,
which he objectively is.
Nicole (10:55):
Okay. (participants laughing)
Drew (10:56):
But he lashes out at every single one who tries.
And the banter betweenBasil and Dawson the doctor
is absolutely topnotch.
Professor Ratigan isvoiced by Vincent Price,
which is incredible.Nicole: Which I love, yes.
One of his last things he did.
He died early '90s, I think.
Nicole (11:17):
Okay.
Drew (11:19):
It's just so funny.
And you can see, it's the era of Disney
that sort of leads intothe Renaissance of the '90s
where they're just starting to figure out
what that animationstyle is gonna look like.
The scene in Big Benwith all the clock gears,
revolutionary.Nicole: Nice.
(11:40):
It's so, so good.
Nicole (11:41):
Okay, I feel like I'm gonna have
to make my kids watch this now.
Amanda (11:43):
I'm gonna have to watch this, yes.
Killian (11:45):
Like one of these days, we're gonna have to just do
podcast movie nightwhere we watch something
that we've talked about altogether.
Nicole (11:51):
Absolutely.
Drew (11:52):
We've already ruined each other's TV hours enough.
Nicole (11:54):
Well, when we did the spooky animated one,
I don't know how many times wewere just sending each other
horrible GIFs of things.
So we could do something that'sactually pleasant this time.
Killian (12:04):
A concept. (participants laughing)
Drew (12:07):
In terms of a recent favorite, I adore "Coco."
Nicole (12:11):
Oh, I love "Coco" too.
It makes me cry everytime, and it's ridiculous.
Drew (12:15):
Every single time.
But it's an interesting story.
I like the recent Disney trend
of not really having villains.
And instead, you know, thevillain is family hierarchy.
And the villain is gender roles, whatever.
Like the interesting thingsthat can come of that
(12:37):
where there isn't really a bad guy,
it's just a situation that needs to evolve
and isn't with the times.
But "Coco" is so much fun.
Miguel is a really good character for it.
Nicole (12:50):
I love "Coco."
And his dog Dante, thestreet dog, I love Dante.
Killian (12:57):
Drew did not prepare me for "Coco"
when he made me watch it.
Nicole (13:01):
Oh boy. Killian
(participants laughing)
Call him out and tell him.
Drew (13:07):
It was at like two AM. Nicole
Was everybody sobbing?Drew: Oh yeah.
Nicole (13:14):
Just ugly crying on the couch?
Killian (13:15):
Yep. Drew
I was so obsessed with it that I bought it
on Amazon Streaming Videobefore Disney Plus even existed.
Nicole (13:26):
Okay.
Drew (13:27):
And so, for a long time,
unless I wanted to borrowthings from the library,
that was like the onlyDisney movie I had access to.
So I watched it a lot.Nicole: Oh my goodness, wow.
The music is really great too.
So good. Nicole
And my last one is the deepest of deep cuts
that I didn't realize I could talk about
until we got into this room today.
Nicole (13:47):
We weren't sure if it was gonna be
an animated film discussion,or if it was okay
to go off on the tangents: the non-animated. (13:51):
undefined
Drew (13:55):
So this is the 1995 made-for-TV
"Escape to Witch Mountain"
starring Eric von Detten of "Brink!" fame
and Elizabeth Moss of "TheHandmaid's Tale" and "Mad Men."
Nicole (14:07):
Wow.
Amanda (14:08):
A movie that I've never heard of before.
Nicole (14:10):
Oh, I've heard of it.
I know I've seen it.
Drew (14:13):
It is iconic in how bad it is,
but in like such a good way.
Like the narrator of it hasthat like soft, slow drag.
Like every word I'msaying means something,
and you have to find the meaning of it.
(14:34):
(participants laughing)
The twins channel their magic
by putting each other's hands together,
and a purple light emits from their hands.
And then suddenly, they have telepathy.
Nicole (14:44):
Impossible. Drew
Like the entire conceptof it is alien twins
who are beamed down to earth,
who every seven years have the chance
to go back to their home planet.
It's nonsense, and it's so good.
And it doesn't exist anywhere.
I had to go throughlike back alley websites
(15:04):
to get a burnt DVD copy sent to me.
Like it legitimatelydoes not exist anywhere.
That's so crazy. Amanda
I might need to borrow it.Nicole: Absolutely.
Killian (15:15):
There we go, there's our movie night.
Drew (15:16):
Absolutely. Nicole
Nicole (15:19):
All right, well my favorites.
Okay, "Return to Oz."
I was going through alist of Disney movies,
and I was like, "Oh,'Return to Oz' is on here."
"I will absolutely put that down."
So "Return to Oz," I thinkI would consider this
to be kind of a cult classic in a way
'cause it's a really weird movie.
Drew (15:41):
I don't think I've ever seen that.
Nicole (15:41):
You've never seen it? Drew
Okay, well, you should watch it
and prepare to be uncomfortable.
Drew (15:48):
Yes. (participant laughing)
Nicole (15:49):
And well, I mean, I don't know
'cause I watched it when I was a kid.
So like, sometimes when youwatch something as an adult,
you just don't really get it.
You're just like, "Ah,okay, this is fine and all.
"But yeah, Nicole, this is not that great.
"We've been there."
Yes, Killian just showedme a cover of the copy
so that we could all see the illustration.
Killian (16:12):
Nicole, I have
questions.Nicole: Okay.
So first of all, Fairuza Balkis in it as a young girl.
Drew (16:21):
Ooh.
Nicole (16:21):
And she's amazing, of course.
There are a lot of interesting actors
that I, of course, cannotpull out of my head right now.
The story is that, of course,Dorothy came back from Oz
and she hasn't slept in forever.
And so her aunt says,
"We're gonna take you tothis crazy doctor in town.
(16:44):
"And he's gonna try toelectrically rearrange your brain
"so that you can sleep."
It's a terrifying scene.
They're trying to hookher up to this machine,
and there's peoplescreaming in the background.
And then, a girl comesand helps her escape
because the power goes outat like the last second.
(17:06):
And they escape, and thenshe wakes up in Oz again.
Okay, so then she meets awhole new cast of characters.
And there's a Nome Kingwho has taken the Scarecrow
and turned him into an ornament.
And there is a Pumpkinheadcharacter who's kind of goofy,
but my daughter loves his voice.
Amanda (17:27):
As you're describing this, I have seen this movie.
I'm like, "Wait a minute, I have..."
Nicole (17:34):
Oh yeah, the Scarecrow is a little terrifying.
So I took it upon myself to say,
"I'm gonna watch thismovie before this episode
"so that I really haveit fresh in my head."
This is why you have toomany details right now.
(participants laughing)
Showed it to my family.
And my kids, like when itsaid horror on Disney Plus,
(17:55):
I was a little like, "Ooh,maybe we shouldn't do this."
But I'm so glad we did.
My kids were not terrified.
It is spooky.
There's definitely parts of it
that I would say could be horror-ey.
That's not a word.
There's a part where PrincessMombi does not have a head
and she's chasing the little girl.
'Cause she can change her heads.
And she has like a cabinet of heads
(18:17):
that she just goes andgets a head and puts on.
It's fantastic, it's so good.
Yeah, that part was a little spooky.
Anyway, so it's great.
(participants laughing)
Amanda (18:29):
Will it give someone nightmares?
Nicole (18:32):
I don't think so. Amanda
- So I feel like thisis probably the movie
that made me weird.
Amanda (18:37):
I love that. Nicole
be it.
And in between this and "Labyrinth,"
like throw the two together
and that's kind of sumsup who I am as a person.
Can we make that our next topic,
things that made us weird?
Nicole (18:50):
Ooh, I don't hate
that.Drew: I'm not against it.
Okay, all right, on to the next movie.
Here we go.
My second favorite movie is "WALL-E."
Well, these are not inany particular order.
I love 'WALL-E."
Amanda (19:04):
Big endorsement there,
yeah.Nicole: He's so sweet.
And he loves his other littlefancy robot friend so much.
And I love a goodenvironmentally apocalyptic film.
(participants laughing)
But there's a hopeful ending.
And like, I don't know, there'ssomething about that movie
that really makes me happy.
(19:25):
Finally, "Moana."
I just have to put "Moana."
Killian (19:29):
Yes, "Moana" was good.
Nicole (19:30):
I will never not watch "Moana."
My kids will watch it,
and I'm just like, "Igotta sit in on this."
I will not be on my phone.
I will not be doing anything else.
I am watching "Moana" andsinging, because that's what I do.
So, is it anybody else's?
You guys like that movie too?
Amanda (19:49):
I love it, I have cried.
I mean, there's definitely like...
Nicole (19:53):
Oh, the grandma with the grandma stuff.
Amanda (19:55):
Yeah.
Nicole (19:56):
It's always the grandma stuff.
Come on, Disney.(participants laughing)
Amanda (20:00):
It's so good.
Just the sense of likeempowerment and destiny.
And the music is wonderfuland the visuals are great,
like the open ocean and et cetera.
Yeah, no, I think "Moana" is my favorite
to come out in the pastlike decade, I think.
Drew (20:19):
Easily. Nicole
There's nothing I can think ofthat's wrong with that movie.
All right, what do we not like?
What do we not love?(participants laughing)
We already talked a little bit about
mine, "Pinocchio."
Nicole (20:34):
Okay.
Drew (20:36):
I can't do it.
- I think 1940, it came out.
And A, there are several things
that should have stayed in 1940.
But also, just the horror of it all:
the whale scene, the PleasureIsland bit, the circus.
(20:57):
Like it's just nightmare on nightmare.
And as a kid, I ranscreaming from it, I'm sure.
I don't have an active memory of this,
but it feels very in my character.
(participants laughing)
I've sought it out acouple of times as an adult
on the like idea that "I'm gonna sit down
(21:19):
"and I'm gonna watch all ofthe Disney movies in order,
"like all the animated ones."
And so I've re-watched it acouple of times as an adult,
and it just misses me every time.
Killian (21:32):
Yeah, that's another one that I know I watched
as a kid,
but I don't really remember much of it.
I remember a little bit more,
but I can't separatewhat is from the movie
and what is just becauseit's in Kingdom Hearts.
It's another one that just,
it did not resonate with me as a kid
so I watched it not often.
Nicole (21:53):
Yeah, I mean, I remember loving it when I was a kid,
but then showed it to my children
and it was another one like "Dumbo"
where I had some splainin' to do.
Because there are just some very odd
cultural references and weird things in it
that are not great.
Drew (22:13):
Isn't there blackface in that one?
Nicole (22:14):
Mm-hmm, yeah.
Amanda (22:15):
Oh, I don't remember that.
Nicole (22:17):
Yeah, well, they have a little warning at
the beginning
that says, "Some of thethings you may see here"
or whatever.- Yeah.
Drew (22:23):
And I do respect them for that warning.
It's very, "We recognize thatthis is a sign of the times.
"We are actively choosing not to censor it
"because that would behiding away the fact
"that this is a part of our history."
So I respect them for that,
but also don't need to personallyengage with it. (laughs)
Nicole (22:43):
Right, right, right, yeah.
Kililan (22:48):
Still lookin' at me 'cause mine's the
controversial one.
So I wouldn't even necessarily say...
You say like, pick your least favorite.
I don't know, I can't quantify it.
But the most controversialmovie that I don't like
of the Disney lexicon,
I don't like "Toy Story."
(23:09):
(laughs) Horrified gasp.
Drew (23:12):
You told us that before the episode started
and I already emotionally blocked it out.
(participants laughing)
And now you saying it again is rude.
Killian (23:21):
Like, I don't know.
I think it just wasn't onethat I loved when it came out.
And then everybody loved it so much,
and I think I like itless because of that.
Nicole (23:31):
Yeah. Killian
it.
To me, I don't know,
all of the toys suddenlybeing able to be alive
and have feelings,
that's a really hard thingto deal with as a child,
at least me as a child.
It made existing aroundtoys harder for me.
Amanda (23:55):
Did you read "Velveteen Rabbit?"
Kililan (23:57):
I did. Amanda
Killian (23:59):
No. Amanda
I feel like it's similar in theme.
And like, to me it was like this nostalgia
to then revisit this other story
from when I was even youngerand I thought was very special.
And I will say, I have not seen
all of the "Toy Story" movies.
I have seen "Toy Story1" and "Toy Story 2."
(24:20):
I honestly don't rememberif I've seen "Toy Story 3."
I liked "Toy Story 2" better.Nicole: Okay.
I think I liked Jesse.
I think that's what made"Toy Story 2" better for me.
But I don't know.
I am the weird person whodoesn't love "Toy Story."
Nicole (24:38):
Yeah, I mean, I didn't mind it
when my kids wanted to watch it.
It's not something I'm goingto put on on purpose. (laughs)
I'm not gonna do that to myself.
And they don't wanna watch it anymore,
and that's totally fine.
So that was actually one ofthe movies that I was okay
(24:58):
with it kind of not beingas popular in my home.
So I kind of agree with you, Killian.
Killian (25:05):
I also had a really hard time with like Sid
and his destruction of the toys.
And like, that hurt me.
Nicole (25:10):
Yeah. Killian
Drew (25:14):
One of my core emotional memories is
the breakdown I had in thetheater for "Toy Story 3".
I don't remember if it was like the summer
between high school and collegeor the summer after college.
But whichever one itwas just hit at a really
where-am-I-going-from-here moment.
(25:36):
And I was not prepared for that.
Nicole (25:38):
Okay.
Killian (25:41):
All right, I feel like I haven't seen
"Toy Story 3."
Because as you're saying that,
I'm like, "I don't think I've seen it."
(Drew laughing)
Amanda (25:48):
I remember "Toy Story 3" being
just as emotionally impactful,I think, for those reasons.
Yeah, do I wanna watch Toy Story again?
No.
Did I love it at the time?
Yes.
But I hear you, I hear you.
Not everything lands.
One of the things I didn't love,
(26:11):
I liked it when I saw it asa kid, was "Cool Runnings."
However, it is a live actionabout a Jamaican bobsled team.
And it just is just so,
(26:33):
the whole movie is basedoff of like stereotypes.
Drew (26:36):
Yes.
Amanda (26:38):
Not that that's not a bunch of Disney movies,
but it's just one of those things
where it's very cringey,does not age well.
I think I have heard some commentary
about "Cool Runnings" lateron that it was just, you know,
(27:03):
if you are a Jamaican person,
to like see that movie and seehow Jamaicans are portrayed,
or just like every stereotype
portrayed in one movie as a set,
that it's sort of tough.
So it's one of those things that, again,
just like having the disclaimer
(27:25):
in front of Disney movies on Disney Plus.
You know, "We are an evolving society
"that hopefully we will do things better."
But I don't thinkeverything ages well, so.
Nicole (27:38):
That's true.
Amanda (27:39):
That was just one example.
Yeah.Nicole: All right.
Well my least loved movie was "Tarzan."
And I know this is anotherone that may be controversial.
Drew (27:58):
I'll back you up in a second.
(participants laughing)
Nicole (28:00):
So, first of all, I wasn't around
or would I have cared about "Tarzan"
when I was a young person.
So I did not see it.
I wasn't young anymore,that's the whole thing.
And watching it with my kids,
I was like, "Well, this is a fun story.
"Like I get the deal aboutTarzan and all the thing."
I saw the Brendan Frasermovie, so I know the story.
(28:21):
However, it is kind of like,
I'm sure the movie itself is fine.
The story is fine.
The music makes me wantto go cry somewhere.
I cannot listen to that much Phil Collins.
(participants laughing)
I cannot do it.
And then my kids are like,
"Let's listen to the 'Tarzan' soundtrack."
And I'm like, "Please, no.
(28:42):
"I don't ever wanna listento the 'Tarzan' soundtrack."
So yeah, that's reallymy biggest complaint.
Killian (28:48):
See, and I like, yes, the story's good, fine, cool.
I like the animal characters.
I love the soundtrack to that.
And it's not just thePhil Collins of it all.
Nicole (29:02):
The Phil Collins of it all.
Killian (29:03):
When I was in band in high school
and we went to Disney World,one of the things that we did
was we played throughthis "Tarzan" medley.
Nicole (29:14):
Oh, okay.
Killian (29:15):
And like, they put the audio of us playing it
to clips from the movie.
Nicole (29:20):
Okay. Killian
So again, I have anemotional attachment to it
for weird, very individual reasons.
Sure, sure, sure.
Drew (29:27):
So, and I had this conversation like four days ago
with Lauren at the library.
So shout out, Lauren, you're coming up.
"Tarzan" the movie, wonderful.
"Tarzan" the music, wonderful.
They don't go together.
Amanda (29:45):
Interesting.
Drew (29:46):
You know, every movie especially of that era
in the Disney Renaissance,
all of the songs are, youknow, sung by the characters
and written to move the plot forward
or tell us more about the characters.
And this feels like a jukebox musical
where it's just thesesongs on top of this movie.
And especially for the era that it's in,
it's just a complete mismatch for me.
(30:06):
So like, I'll enjoylistening to the soundtrack.
And I feel like I'd enjoy the movie better
if the music wasn't there.
Nicole (30:13):
Yeah, fair enough. Amanda
Absolutely. All right, well thanks for listening
and we will see you next time.
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Drew (00:10):
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Nicole (00:30):
Hey, everybody.
On today's episode of "TheDistracted Librarians,"
we are gonna be talkingabout Disney movies.
Drew (00:37):
Finally.
Nicole (00:39):
Not just Disney movies,
but we're gonna do three movies we loved
and one that we didn't love.
That's the nicest wayof saying that, right?
(participants laughing)
Drew (00:50):
One that missed us culturally.
Nicole (00:52):
There we go, yes.
So who wants to start?
Amanda (00:57):
I'll start 'cause I have a feeling mine is gonna be
the first in chronological order.
Nicole (01:02):
Oh, wow. Amanda
(participants laughing)
So my favorite is "Fantasia."
Okay. Amanda
which I think...
I didn't realize it was made so early.
And looking back, I'm like,"This is ahead of its time,
"like by a lot."
Just like so many beautifulvisuals set to classical music.
(01:27):
The other thing that Ididn't realize is that
when I watched "Fantasia" as a kid,
it started with "Peter and the Wolf."
Does anyone remember that segment of it?
Yes.
Amanda (01:41):
So that wasn't in the original.
Nicole (01:42):
Oh. Amanda
like short that was madein 1946 that ended up being
added onto like the video distribution.
Oh, okay.
Amanda (01:57):
So it's not actually part of "Fantasia."
It's like an extra short added on.
Nicole (02:02):
Oh, interesting.
Amanda (02:03):
But "Peter and the Wolf" was also really
significant to me
because you have thispiece of classical music
that introduces charactersby different instruments.
One character is the oboe,
another character isthe clarinet, et cetera.
(02:27):
And I think that's such a interesting way
to experience music andtell a story with music.
And then also, who doesn'tlove ostriches and hippos?
Drew (02:41):
Right. Nicole
I love, love that so much.Amanda: Like performing a
ballet.
Just like pure fantasy,as the name suggests.
I love it.
My other favorite is "Dumbo," 1941.
Nicole (02:56):
Okay.
- I had a real love forelephants as a child
So there's that.
And there's just a couple of scenes in it.
And I haven't actually seenit since I was a child.
But like what I rememberis the mom of Dumbo
being separated from her kid
(03:18):
and then them reaching throughthe bars with their trunks
and like crying.Nicole: Yes.
Amanda (03:23):
And that is as emotional and impactful a moment
you can have as a child.
Nicole (03:28):
Yeah, absolutely. Amanda
And then we have "Pete's Dragon," 1977.
Oh, "Pete's Dragon." Amanda
action.
So that also felt super fresh as a child.
(participants laughing)
No, that was really exciting.
Amanda (03:48):
And I'm sure in the 1970s,
maybe that was also a new technique.
But every kid wants to believethat a dragon can appear.
Nicole (04:00):
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Amanda (04:01):
From a cave and be your friend.
And then they brought that to life.
Nicole (04:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
I know with "Dumbo," "Dumbo" comes
with mixed reviews
depending on, you know,like when you saw it.
You know, I was born in the '80s,
so like I saw it at a certain time.
And people that have seen itin other generations are like,
"Ah, there's some stuff therethat's a little weird or crazy
(04:26):
"and not necessarily neededfor a children's movie."
Amanda (04:30):
Should I do a rewatch, or no?
The other thing, like what hasactually aged appropriately?
Nicole (04:37):
I watched it, like I said, as a child
and then I showed it to my kids.
And there were some thingsthat didn't really translate.
Like I remember like loving that film.
And then my kids' reaction to it was not,
they did not have thatstrong love for it as I did.
(04:57):
So, I don't know.
Maybe it doesn't translateover the time and over period.
Killian (05:04):
And see, I know I've seen it,
but I couldn't tell you thestoryline of that movie.
Drew (05:09):
Me either.
Killian (05:10):
'Cause I didn't watch it regularly as a child.
I think I watched it maybe once or twice
and it did not stick.Nicole: Yeah.
I mean, I distinctly recallthe drunken elephant scene
where there's like multicoloredelephants and bubbles.
And, I mean, it seemspretty wild actually,
but very much like "Fantasia."
(05:30):
So I can kind of see.
Amanda (05:32):
Only one year apart. Nicole
What did your kids think of that scene?
Nicole (05:37):
They wanted to know what was going on.
Because they were pretty little.
And I was like, "All right, well children,
"we will talk about alcohol.
(participants laughing)
"This is what you don't do."
But anyway. (laughing)
Amanda (05:50):
In the 1940s, were these animated films
made for kids?
Or were they made for adultsor the family at large?
Nicole (05:57):
Probably for the family at large, I would say.
Because even in othermovies from that time,
like "Pinocchio," there's adrunken scene in "Pinocchio."
And it's like, now we're justmaking parents happy in a way.
Like, "Oh, there's thisthing that's going on."
'Cause those kids had nobusiness getting drunk
(06:19):
and smoking cigars and all of that.
So, yeah.
- Any other favorites?
Killian (06:28):
I'll talk about mine.
Mine are not deep cuts for favorites.
They are simply what they are,but for different reasons.
So one of the earliest favorites of mine,
which I am told was the firstmovie I ever saw in theaters,
which means I saw it when I was one.
I obviously do not remember this,
but it was "Little Mermaid."Nicole: Okay.
(06:49):
That movie had a huge impact on me as a kid.
I remember watching it almost every day
for a chunk of my life.
And every time "Kiss The Girl" came on,
I would stand on my dad's feet
and we would dance around the living room.
Nicole (07:06):
Aw, that's so cute. Killian
movie
and particularly that song
have always had a veryspecial place in my heart.
There are movies that Imight like the story more,
but the emotions attached to that one
put it up there on the list.
Totally.
Killian (07:24):
"Kingdom Hearts" Little Mermaid levels do
damage it some,
but that's another story.
I am also a book person,
and so I have to say"Beauty and the Beast."
Because the library.Amanda: Yes, that library.
(participants laughing)
Drew (07:44):
I had "Beauty and the Beast" on my list of three
and then realized I didn'twant to steal it from you
because you have actual merch.
(participants laughing)
Kililan (07:52):
I loved that movie.
I think it was the factthat there could be
a brown haired, like bookish princess.
And that was one of those...
Like seeing a characterthat looks like you
is really important,
and seeing a character thathas like interests like you
was very important.
(08:12):
And I simply love that movie.
And I was deeply upset.
As I got older, I was like,
"Oh, the differencebetween me and Belle is
"I cannot wear that much yellow."
(participants laughing)
Nicole (08:27):
Oh my gosh, there's so much yellow.
Killian (08:28):
Because I cannot, I cannot do yellow.
And I absolutely do notlike the color yellow.
So it's still like, you know, it's wild.
But I keep seeing,
I guess American Girl has put out a,
they put out a Collector'sEdition Belle doll a while ago.
It was like $300.
And I was like, "No."
But they're putting out a play version
that is the slightly more reasonable price
(08:52):
that as far as AmericanGirl Dolls go is, you know,
it's still expensive, butthey're putting out a Belle doll.
And I was like, "I could geta Belle American Girl doll."
So that might happen.
And then my last one ismy go-to anytime I'm like,
"I need to put something on the television
"and I don't know what it's going to be."
(09:14):
I will put "Hercules" on every time.
Drew experienced this living with me.
Drew (09:19):
Very openly confirmed. (participants laughing)
Killian (09:23):
And honestly, I would love to be able to be like,
"This is exactly why."
And I can't because I don't know why.
I just have, it's a comfort.
It's a good movie.
It has so little to dowith the actual mythology
of any of it.
So I can't even be like,
"I like Greek mythology, so I like this."
'Cause it's not.
(09:43):
But I like Meg, and I like the story,
and I like the music, andit just makes me happy.
And that's my thing with Disney stuff is
I don't often think too deeply about it.
I'm just like, I just wantwhat childhood me saw in it.
Nicole (10:01):
Yeah. Killian
for worse.
Sure, sure.
Drew (10:04):
All right, my absolute favorite of all time
will always be "TheGreat Mouse Detective."
It came out like threeyears before I was born.
Nicole (10:14):
I think we've mentioned this
on the podcast before, haven't we?
Drew (10:17):
Possibly.
Amanda (10:18):
Is it animated? Drew
Okay.
Nicole (10:21):
Is it Basil?
Drew (10:22):
Yes, Basil of Baker Street.
He lives in Sherlock Holmes's house
sort of Tom and Jerry style in the walls.
Amanda (10:31):
I'm trying to think if I've seen this.
Nicole (10:32):
I know I've seen it.
I can't remember it ingreat detail though.
Drew (10:37):
The villain is named Professor Ratigan.
And he is like a conman
trying to break into the upperechelon of mouse society.
So his like big affront iswhen people call him a rat,
which he objectively is.
Nicole (10:55):
Okay. (participants laughing)
Drew (10:56):
But he lashes out at every single one who tries.
And the banter betweenBasil and Dawson the doctor
is absolutely topnotch.
Professor Ratigan isvoiced by Vincent Price,
which is incredible.Nicole: Which I love, yes.
One of his last things he did.
He died early '90s, I think.
Nicole (11:17):
Okay.
Drew (11:19):
It's just so funny.
And you can see, it's the era of Disney
that sort of leads intothe Renaissance of the '90s
where they're just starting to figure out
what that animationstyle is gonna look like.
The scene in Big Benwith all the clock gears,
revolutionary.Nicole: Nice.
(11:40):
It's so, so good.
Nicole (11:41):
Okay, I feel like I'm gonna have
to make my kids watch this now.
Amanda (11:43):
I'm gonna have to watch this, yes.
Killian (11:45):
Like one of these days, we're gonna have to just do
podcast movie nightwhere we watch something
that we've talked about altogether.
Nicole (11:51):
Absolutely.
Drew (11:52):
We've already ruined each other's TV hours enough.
Nicole (11:54):
Well, when we did the spooky animated one,
I don't know how many times wewere just sending each other
horrible GIFs of things.
So we could do something that'sactually pleasant this time.
Killian (12:04):
A concept. (participants laughing)
Drew (12:07):
In terms of a recent favorite, I adore "Coco."
Nicole (12:11):
Oh, I love "Coco" too.
It makes me cry everytime, and it's ridiculous.
Drew (12:15):
Every single time.
But it's an interesting story.
I like the recent Disney trend
of not really having villains.
And instead, you know, thevillain is family hierarchy.
And the villain is gender roles, whatever.
Like the interesting thingsthat can come of that
(12:37):
where there isn't really a bad guy,
it's just a situation that needs to evolve
and isn't with the times.
But "Coco" is so much fun.
Miguel is a really good character for it.
Nicole (12:50):
I love "Coco."
And his dog Dante, thestreet dog, I love Dante.
Killian (12:57):
Drew did not prepare me for "Coco"
when he made me watch it.
Nicole (13:01):
Oh boy. Killian
(participants laughing)
Call him out and tell him.
Drew (13:07):
It was at like two AM. Nicole
Was everybody sobbing?Drew: Oh yeah.
Nicole (13:14):
Just ugly crying on the couch?
Killian (13:15):
Yep. Drew
I was so obsessed with it that I bought it
on Amazon Streaming Videobefore Disney Plus even existed.
Nicole (13:26):
Okay.
Drew (13:27):
And so, for a long time,
unless I wanted to borrowthings from the library,
that was like the onlyDisney movie I had access to.
So I watched it a lot.Nicole: Oh my goodness, wow.
The music is really great too.
So good. Nicole
And my last one is the deepest of deep cuts
that I didn't realize I could talk about
until we got into this room today.
Nicole (13:47):
We weren't sure if it was gonna be
an animated film discussion,or if it was okay
to go off on the tangents: the non-animated. (13:51):
undefined
Drew (13:55):
So this is the 1995 made-for-TV
"Escape to Witch Mountain"
starring Eric von Detten of "Brink!" fame
and Elizabeth Moss of "TheHandmaid's Tale" and "Mad Men."
Nicole (14:07):
Wow.
Amanda (14:08):
A movie that I've never heard of before.
Nicole (14:10):
Oh, I've heard of it.
I know I've seen it.
Drew (14:13):
It is iconic in how bad it is,
but in like such a good way.
Like the narrator of it hasthat like soft, slow drag.
Like every word I'msaying means something,
and you have to find the meaning of it.
(14:34):
(participants laughing)
The twins channel their magic
by putting each other's hands together,
and a purple light emits from their hands.
And then suddenly, they have telepathy.
Nicole (14:44):
Impossible. Drew
Like the entire conceptof it is alien twins
who are beamed down to earth,
who every seven years have the chance
to go back to their home planet.
It's nonsense, and it's so good.
And it doesn't exist anywhere.
I had to go throughlike back alley websites
(15:04):
to get a burnt DVD copy sent to me.
Like it legitimatelydoes not exist anywhere.
That's so crazy. Amanda
I might need to borrow it.Nicole: Absolutely.
Killian (15:15):
There we go, there's our movie night.
Drew (15:16):
Absolutely. Nicole
Nicole (15:19):
All right, well my favorites.
Okay, "Return to Oz."
I was going through alist of Disney movies,
and I was like, "Oh,'Return to Oz' is on here."
"I will absolutely put that down."
So "Return to Oz," I thinkI would consider this
to be kind of a cult classic in a way
'cause it's a really weird movie.
Drew (15:41):
I don't think I've ever seen that.
Nicole (15:41):
You've never seen it? Drew
Okay, well, you should watch it
and prepare to be uncomfortable.
Drew (15:48):
Yes. (participant laughing)
Nicole (15:49):
And well, I mean, I don't know
'cause I watched it when I was a kid.
So like, sometimes when youwatch something as an adult,
you just don't really get it.
You're just like, "Ah,okay, this is fine and all.
"But yeah, Nicole, this is not that great.
"We've been there."
Yes, Killian just showedme a cover of the copy
so that we could all see the illustration.
Killian (16:12):
Nicole, I have
questions.Nicole: Okay.
So first of all, Fairuza Balkis in it as a young girl.
Drew (16:21):
Ooh.
Nicole (16:21):
And she's amazing, of course.
There are a lot of interesting actors
that I, of course, cannotpull out of my head right now.
The story is that, of course,Dorothy came back from Oz
and she hasn't slept in forever.
And so her aunt says,
"We're gonna take you tothis crazy doctor in town.
(16:44):
"And he's gonna try toelectrically rearrange your brain
"so that you can sleep."
It's a terrifying scene.
They're trying to hookher up to this machine,
and there's peoplescreaming in the background.
And then, a girl comesand helps her escape
because the power goes outat like the last second.
(17:06):
And they escape, and thenshe wakes up in Oz again.
Okay, so then she meets awhole new cast of characters.
And there's a Nome Kingwho has taken the Scarecrow
and turned him into an ornament.
And there is a Pumpkinheadcharacter who's kind of goofy,
but my daughter loves his voice.
Amanda (17:27):
As you're describing this, I have seen this movie.
I'm like, "Wait a minute, I have..."
Nicole (17:34):
Oh yeah, the Scarecrow is a little terrifying.
So I took it upon myself to say,
"I'm gonna watch thismovie before this episode
"so that I really haveit fresh in my head."
This is why you have toomany details right now.
(participants laughing)
Showed it to my family.
And my kids, like when itsaid horror on Disney Plus,
(17:55):
I was a little like, "Ooh,maybe we shouldn't do this."
But I'm so glad we did.
My kids were not terrified.
It is spooky.
There's definitely parts of it
that I would say could be horror-ey.
That's not a word.
There's a part where PrincessMombi does not have a head
and she's chasing the little girl.
'Cause she can change her heads.
And she has like a cabinet of heads
(18:17):
that she just goes andgets a head and puts on.
It's fantastic, it's so good.
Yeah, that part was a little spooky.
Anyway, so it's great.
(participants laughing)
Amanda (18:29):
Will it give someone nightmares?
Nicole (18:32):
I don't think so. Amanda
- So I feel like thisis probably the movie
that made me weird.
Amanda (18:37):
I love that. Nicole
be it.
And in between this and "Labyrinth,"
like throw the two together
and that's kind of sumsup who I am as a person.
Can we make that our next topic,
things that made us weird?
Nicole (18:50):
Ooh, I don't hate
that.Drew: I'm not against it.
Okay, all right, on to the next movie.
Here we go.
My second favorite movie is "WALL-E."
Well, these are not inany particular order.
I love 'WALL-E."
Amanda (19:04):
Big endorsement there,
yeah.Nicole: He's so sweet.
And he loves his other littlefancy robot friend so much.
And I love a goodenvironmentally apocalyptic film.
(participants laughing)
But there's a hopeful ending.
And like, I don't know, there'ssomething about that movie
that really makes me happy.
(19:25):
Finally, "Moana."
I just have to put "Moana."
Killian (19:29):
Yes, "Moana" was good.
Nicole (19:30):
I will never not watch "Moana."
My kids will watch it,
and I'm just like, "Igotta sit in on this."
I will not be on my phone.
I will not be doing anything else.
I am watching "Moana" andsinging, because that's what I do.
So, is it anybody else's?
You guys like that movie too?
Amanda (19:49):
I love it, I have cried.
I mean, there's definitely like...
Nicole (19:53):
Oh, the grandma with the grandma stuff.
Amanda (19:55):
Yeah.
Nicole (19:56):
It's always the grandma stuff.
Come on, Disney.(participants laughing)
Amanda (20:00):
It's so good.
Just the sense of likeempowerment and destiny.
And the music is wonderfuland the visuals are great,
like the open ocean and et cetera.
Yeah, no, I think "Moana" is my favorite
to come out in the pastlike decade, I think.
Drew (20:19):
Easily. Nicole
There's nothing I can think ofthat's wrong with that movie.
All right, what do we not like?
What do we not love?(participants laughing)
We already talked a little bit about
mine, "Pinocchio."
Nicole (20:34):
Okay.
Drew (20:36):
I can't do it.
- I think 1940, it came out.
And A, there are several things
that should have stayed in 1940.
But also, just the horror of it all:
the whale scene, the PleasureIsland bit, the circus.
(20:57):
Like it's just nightmare on nightmare.
And as a kid, I ranscreaming from it, I'm sure.
I don't have an active memory of this,
but it feels very in my character.
(participants laughing)
I've sought it out acouple of times as an adult
on the like idea that "I'm gonna sit down
(21:19):
"and I'm gonna watch all ofthe Disney movies in order,
"like all the animated ones."
And so I've re-watched it acouple of times as an adult,
and it just misses me every time.
Killian (21:32):
Yeah, that's another one that I know I watched
as a kid,
but I don't really remember much of it.
I remember a little bit more,
but I can't separatewhat is from the movie
and what is just becauseit's in Kingdom Hearts.
It's another one that just,
it did not resonate with me as a kid
so I watched it not often.
Nicole (21:53):
Yeah, I mean, I remember loving it when I was a kid,
but then showed it to my children
and it was another one like "Dumbo"
where I had some splainin' to do.
Because there are just some very odd
cultural references and weird things in it
that are not great.
Drew (22:13):
Isn't there blackface in that one?
Nicole (22:14):
Mm-hmm, yeah.
Amanda (22:15):
Oh, I don't remember that.
Nicole (22:17):
Yeah, well, they have a little warning at
the beginning
that says, "Some of thethings you may see here"
or whatever.- Yeah.
Drew (22:23):
And I do respect them for that warning.
It's very, "We recognize thatthis is a sign of the times.
"We are actively choosing not to censor it
"because that would behiding away the fact
"that this is a part of our history."
So I respect them for that,
but also don't need to personallyengage with it. (laughs)
Nicole (22:43):
Right, right, right, yeah.
Kililan (22:48):
Still lookin' at me 'cause mine's the
controversial one.
So I wouldn't even necessarily say...
You say like, pick your least favorite.
I don't know, I can't quantify it.
But the most controversialmovie that I don't like
of the Disney lexicon,
I don't like "Toy Story."
(23:09):
(laughs) Horrified gasp.
Drew (23:12):
You told us that before the episode started
and I already emotionally blocked it out.
(participants laughing)
And now you saying it again is rude.
Killian (23:21):
Like, I don't know.
I think it just wasn't onethat I loved when it came out.
And then everybody loved it so much,
and I think I like itless because of that.
Nicole (23:31):
Yeah. Killian
it.
To me, I don't know,
all of the toys suddenlybeing able to be alive
and have feelings,
that's a really hard thingto deal with as a child,
at least me as a child.
It made existing aroundtoys harder for me.
Amanda (23:55):
Did you read "Velveteen Rabbit?"
Kililan (23:57):
I did. Amanda
Killian (23:59):
No. Amanda
I feel like it's similar in theme.
And like, to me it was like this nostalgia
to then revisit this other story
from when I was even youngerand I thought was very special.
And I will say, I have not seen
all of the "Toy Story" movies.
I have seen "Toy Story1" and "Toy Story 2."
(24:20):
I honestly don't rememberif I've seen "Toy Story 3."
I liked "Toy Story 2" better.Nicole: Okay.
I think I liked Jesse.
I think that's what made"Toy Story 2" better for me.
But I don't know.
I am the weird person whodoesn't love "Toy Story."
Nicole (24:38):
Yeah, I mean, I didn't mind it
when my kids wanted to watch it.
It's not something I'm goingto put on on purpose. (laughs)
I'm not gonna do that to myself.
And they don't wanna watch it anymore,
and that's totally fine.
So that was actually one ofthe movies that I was okay
(24:58):
with it kind of not beingas popular in my home.
So I kind of agree with you, Killian.
Killian (25:05):
I also had a really hard time with like Sid
and his destruction of the toys.
And like, that hurt me.
Nicole (25:10):
Yeah. Killian
Drew (25:14):
One of my core emotional memories is
the breakdown I had in thetheater for "Toy Story 3".
I don't remember if it was like the summer
between high school and collegeor the summer after college.
But whichever one itwas just hit at a really
where-am-I-going-from-here moment.
(25:36):
And I was not prepared for that.
Nicole (25:38):
Okay.
Killian (25:41):
All right, I feel like I haven't seen
"Toy Story 3."
Because as you're saying that,
I'm like, "I don't think I've seen it."
(Drew laughing)
Amanda (25:48):
I remember "Toy Story 3" being
just as emotionally impactful,I think, for those reasons.
Yeah, do I wanna watch Toy Story again?
No.
Did I love it at the time?
Yes.
But I hear you, I hear you.
Not everything lands.
One of the things I didn't love,
(26:11):
I liked it when I saw it asa kid, was "Cool Runnings."
However, it is a live actionabout a Jamaican bobsled team.
And it just is just so,
(26:33):
the whole movie is basedoff of like stereotypes.
Drew (26:36):
Yes.
Amanda (26:38):
Not that that's not a bunch of Disney movies,
but it's just one of those things
where it's very cringey,does not age well.
I think I have heard some commentary
about "Cool Runnings" lateron that it was just, you know,
(27:03):
if you are a Jamaican person,
to like see that movie and seehow Jamaicans are portrayed,
or just like every stereotype
portrayed in one movie as a set,
that it's sort of tough.
So it's one of those things that, again,
just like having the disclaimer
(27:25):
in front of Disney movies on Disney Plus.
You know, "We are an evolving society
"that hopefully we will do things better."
But I don't thinkeverything ages well, so.
Nicole (27:38):
That's true.
Amanda (27:39):
That was just one example.
Yeah.Nicole: All right.
Well my least loved movie was "Tarzan."
And I know this is anotherone that may be controversial.
Drew (27:58):
I'll back you up in a second.
(participants laughing)
Nicole (28:00):
So, first of all, I wasn't around
or would I have cared about "Tarzan"
when I was a young person.
So I did not see it.
I wasn't young anymore,that's the whole thing.
And watching it with my kids,
I was like, "Well, this is a fun story.
"Like I get the deal aboutTarzan and all the thing."
I saw the Brendan Frasermovie, so I know the story.
(28:21):
However, it is kind of like,
I'm sure the movie itself is fine.
The story is fine.
The music makes me wantto go cry somewhere.
I cannot listen to that much Phil Collins.
(participants laughing)
I cannot do it.
And then my kids are like,
"Let's listen to the 'Tarzan' soundtrack."
And I'm like, "Please, no.
(28:42):
"I don't ever wanna listento the 'Tarzan' soundtrack."
So yeah, that's reallymy biggest complaint.
Killian (28:48):
See, and I like, yes, the story's good, fine, cool.
I like the animal characters.
I love the soundtrack to that.
And it's not just thePhil Collins of it all.
Nicole (29:02):
The Phil Collins of it all.
Killian (29:03):
When I was in band in high school
and we went to Disney World,one of the things that we did
was we played throughthis "Tarzan" medley.
Nicole (29:14):
Oh, okay.
Killian (29:15):
And like, they put the audio of us playing it
to clips from the movie.
Nicole (29:20):
Okay. Killian
So again, I have anemotional attachment to it
for weird, very individual reasons.
Sure, sure, sure.
Drew (29:27):
So, and I had this conversation like four days ago
with Lauren at the library.
So shout out, Lauren, you're coming up.
"Tarzan" the movie, wonderful.
"Tarzan" the music, wonderful.
They don't go together.
Amanda (29:45):
Interesting.
Drew (29:46):
You know, every movie especially of that era
in the Disney Renaissance,
all of the songs are, youknow, sung by the characters
and written to move the plot forward
or tell us more about the characters.
And this feels like a jukebox musical
where it's just thesesongs on top of this movie.
And especially for the era that it's in,
it's just a complete mismatch for me.
(30:06):
So like, I'll enjoylistening to the soundtrack.
And I feel like I'd enjoy the movie better
if the music wasn't there.
Nicole (30:13):
Yeah, fair enough. Amanda
Absolutely. All right, well thanks for listening
and we will see you next time.
Thank you for joining us for this episode
of "Distracted Librarians."
Drew (30:27):
Many thanks to BCTV for their support in recording,
editing, and releasing this podcast,
and to the friends of the library
for sponsoring closedcaptioning on every episode.
Killian (30:36):
If you have any questions or suggestions,
feel free to reach out tous at distracted@btpl.org.
Amanda (30:44):
Until then, keep those pages turning
and those screens lighting up.
We'll catch you in the next episode.
Emily (30:51):
The views and opinions expressed
in the "Distracted Librarians" podcast
do not necessarily reflectthose of Bloomfield Township,
Bloomfield Township Public Library,
Bloomfield Community Television,
the Birmingham Area Cable Board,
or its producers or production staff.
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