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I did have a patient once who didn't know she had cancer at the time when she started taking glutamine, she was experiencing some stomach pain and some heartburn, and she went on the internet and she decided that she was gonna take glutamine.
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And within just a couple of months she found out that she had esophageal cancer.
And it was always kind of sitting in the back of her mind.
Was it because she did the glutamine? That it, she spit up the growth of that cancer? And I'll never forget that kind of feeling that she was having like the guilt, the dread.
And we don't want that to happen for you.
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So today's episode comes with a little bit of a disclaimer.
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This episode may feel a little bit challenging for some of you, especially if you're someone who has put a lot of hope into certain supplements.
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You might even be someone who kind of swears by essiac tea or I.
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Black seed oil or maybe you've read an inspiring story from someone who's gone through cancer treatment and saw fantastic results and they might have been on one of the supplements that I'm going to mention today.
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And the thing is that my goal, my job, is to provide you with the most, the most impactful changes in the safest changes when it comes to reducing the risk of cancer coming back.
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And I totally will listen with both ears open to people who have had a certain experience with certain supplements or a lot of people have certain experience with certain tech, like red light mats and things like that.
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But my ultimate goal is to make sure that I.
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You and the person that we're working with one-to-one are really focusing in on what is the most impactful thing between looking at the strongest research and also looking at you as an individual.
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Your medical history, your, your overall health history, not just your cancer diagnosis, also your blood work, your test results, all these kind of things.
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This is what should really determine your best supplements moving forward.
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And a lot of the time when it comes to choosing supplements if we think of it this way, if you ever see a commercial for toothpaste and it says four out of five dentists recommend Colgate toothpaste.
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Well, I feel like in the world of supplements, it's a little bit opposite in a way, where that it's usually one out of five.
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Health experts recommend this black seed oil, and unfortunately that one out of the five who's recommending this black seed oil is just the loudest and they're just saying the right words to get you interested and hopeful.
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And unlike the other four people who might be a little bit more based on research and personalization, this loud, one person is telling you to take this supplement, and that's what you're hearing.
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And again, be it, we wanna look at you as an individual as well as the, the best, the strongest research.
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But I also wanna hear the one of stories and the case studies and things like that.
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'cause there's still a lot in research that's not covered.
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So we wanna take it all into, into place here.
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And a lot of times when you walk through cancer, you're also left with a very little guidance, right? It makes sense to seek out anything that gives you this sense of control.
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And supplements can give you that sense of control a lot of the time.
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Especially when you're seeing that it's cancer killing, anti-cancer, things like that.
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Like that's what you want and you want to take your supplements so that you can do everything in your power to make sure that cancer doesn't come back.
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And that's great, that deep desire to feel safe again.
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It's so real.
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It's so valid.
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The root, the feeling to feel in control.
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It's great.
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We want that.
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It's motivational.
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You're great clients.
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But I really wanna bring clarity to a lot of the noise whenever we're doing a lot of these episodes.
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I've already done an episode on the best supplements for reducing cancer recurrence risk.
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I really wanted you to go back and listen to that if you haven't already.
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And the, the overall topic of that conversation was, was how to apply the supplements, not necessarily the best supplements, but what are the actions you want the supplements to take? And unlike a lot of the supplement marketing, it's not cancer killing anti-cancer, things like that.
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We actually wanna look at you and your picture of health and also the research and all the aspects and contributors to how does cancer start and grow.
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And that's how we apply supplements is to intrude upon those processes in the best way possible.
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But all of this aside, what we're gonna talk about today are actually the worst supplements for cancer.
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I will give you specific examples in these cases and how I've chosen these is more based on safety and yeah, actually it's safety, not even efficacy.
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They're just more safety reasons.
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We wanna make sure that they're safe for you to take.
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So let's go through why some supplements might sound promising.
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Why do people sometimes choose them and instead, like, why do we.
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Decide and advise people not to take these particular supplements.
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Because that can be harmful sometimes.
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And I feel like there's a lot of extra fear around supplements that necessarily, which shouldn't necessarily be there.
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So we have a lot of fear coming from your oncologist or pharmacist or radiation therapist, whoever it might be, and they're saying this might interfere with treatment a lot of times, or we just don't know.
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And I feel like that is taken, or that is said with a lot of love, but it's also not saying it's not taken with a lot of.
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Respect to the research.
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'cause there is research out there showing that a lot of things are safe during radiation therapy and chemotherapy and don't necessarily interfere with your med medications.
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Some do, definitely and we wanna be cautious about that, but we can't just blanket statement everyone and say, no, you shouldn't be on those supplements.
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Just do your conventional therapy because there is good research out there showing that we can help people to get through their therapy better.
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And to even feel better, heal better post-treatment too.
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So we can't just poo poo all supplements.
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We definitely have to put put strength where strength is due here, and advise people to take them where it's safe.
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But today, let's talk about where they might not be safe.
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Without further ado, let's start with glutathione.
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So glutathione is a powerful antioxidant.
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It can help with detoxification, which is something that a lot of people feel they need to do post-treatment when they've gone through all the chemo medications or the radiation.
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And what radiation does is it kind of kills the cells and you have to push those through your system and just heal all the tissue that's been damaged.
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Perhaps you've been on some medications, whether it's for surgery or.
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Other reasons, immunotherapy, things like that.
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You just feel like your body's a big sludge of messy things that you don't want anymore.
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So glutathione is a common thing, or NAC YL cysteine is a common thing that people will go toward because it's been marketed and shown to help with liver support, detoxification support.
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Also it helps with a boosting immune function too.
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And a lot, I know a lot of you are struggling with the low white blood cell counts and just like a sluggish immune system.
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And also glutathione has potentially shown a role to, to improve DNA repair.
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And all of these are very important for cancer.
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So why am I saying that we shouldn't be using glutathione to detoxify or to boost immune immune function or for DNA repair? The current, the concern is that if cancer is still present or if your risk of recurrence is even high, we, we wanna limit antioxidants in high doses especially like glutathione, which is a strong one.
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Because it might actually protect cancer cells.
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Some studies suggest that antioxidants can reduce oxidative stress in cancer cells, and that's going to keep the cells from not dying.
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We don't want that to happen whenever it's cancer cells.
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Also, there's been research showing that potentially glutathione can promote chemo resistance, meaning that if you're taking it while you're in chemotherapy.
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Which a lot of the times we work with people who finished chemotherapy, but we do have some people who are still in chemotherapy, but it might encourage the chemotherapy to not work anymore.
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'cause it's kind of like allowing the cells to adapt to the treatment or protect itself from the treatment.
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Also there's some research showing that glutathione may even promote cell growth and possibly even the spread of these cells, the cancer cells, to other parts of the body.
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So we do wanna be cautious if someone has active cancer or is very recently post-treatment.
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Also like a lot of the therapies will continue to work in the body, even post your last session.
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So we definitely wanna be careful whenever we are applying certain supplements that they're not gonna interfere with a lot of the treatment or protect the potential cancer cells that are still dying off or hanging out behind.
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So that being said, we do recommend glutathione quite often.
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So if you are a client, you're like, oh my gosh, I'm taking glutathione, you guys told me to.
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It's probably 'cause we've assessed all of this and it, it is because we've assessed all of this, we're very, very cautious with all of our supplements.
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But what we, what we do to determine if someone is a good fit for glutathione is one, we make sure that their treatment is completed.
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Usually we wait at least one month, if not three months.
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Sometimes post-treatment before we would start recommending a glutathione supplement.
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We also look at epigenetics with a lot of our clients or all of our clients, which tells us a little bit more about how does your body create antioxidants and support your body with reactive oxygen species and free radical damage.
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If we see that being a little bit low in someone, then we will recommend something like glutathione.
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Of course, we're already doing a lot of the other things that are gonna naturally allow your body to boost glutathione as well, such as certain foods and magnesium.
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So we are looking at green leafy vegetables, cruciferous vegetables.
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We're looking at even sulfur containing foods, which would be the cruciferous vegetables, but even eggs can help pro produce glutathione.
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And then making sure your magnesium and a lot of your micronutrients are all topped up too, that can help with your body's own natural production of glutathione.
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A lot of this comes down to like the saying that the dose makes the poison so your body naturally producing glutathione is actually something we do want.
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It produces a certain level that can protect against any damage that might encourage further cancerous changes to happen.
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But if we're giving someone a supplement, again, it's gonna be a higher dose, more concentrated.
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We wanna make sure that it's fully warranted for their body and that we're not doing anything to protect the cancer cells.
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We're doing things more to boost the overall functions of the body.
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So we're helping with immune cell count, we're helping with DNA repair, we're helping with the the detoxification of the liver as well.
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So glutathione and NACN acetylcysteine, we are very cautious about when it comes to, do we recommend these for people or not? And really we recommend it based on their treatment history.
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Where are they at? Is there any evidence of disease still? We can even look at things like Signatera results and I'll do sign Terra results in another day.
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But you can look it up.
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Signatera, S-I-G-N-A-T-E.
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I don't know if it's RRA or just ra.
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So sign Terra.
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Just overall we wanna look at you.
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What's going on for you? Is it something where your body needs a little boost from going through the chemo medications and the stress, and does your body have a decreased ability to produce antioxidants and glutathione? Then we would figure out that glutathione would be a, a benefit to you.
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So very personalized there.
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Alright, the second one I wanna talk about is glutamine.
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So we just talked about glutathione.
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This one is glutamine.
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So glutamine is an amino acid.
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It helps with repair of the gut lining.
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It's also very good for supporting someone with mouth sore from certain chemotherapies or even diarrhea from certain chemotherapies.
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And while we will recommend it short term, for a lot of people, long-term supplementation may feed certain cancer cells, certain cancer types, we don't know exactly which ones will feed off of glutamine versus more, versus ones that don't feed off glutamine as much.
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But some, some tumors are particularly dependent on glutamine as a fuel source.
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So we're a little bit picky.
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If someone do, does have active cancer again.
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Or a high risk of recurrence, we will stay off the glutamine Although we will recommend it very short term for someone who has mouth sores or diarrhea.
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'cause like it can cut those symptoms off so quickly.
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But it's not like we want you to be on it for months at a time.
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A lot of the times in the functional medicine world.
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More than probably a conventional medicine world, someone will get a recommendation or like a prescription from their functional medicine naturopathic doctor, and they potentially forget when they were told to stop taking it or the, the functional doctor expected them to come back and they were gonna.
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Do the follow-up care and they never actually came back for the follow-up appointment to say, this is what happens, this is when you stop it.
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So, so many times we get people coming to us and they've been on something like B12 for example.
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They're like, oh, I was on, I started B12 like two years ago 'cause my B12 was low and I'm still taking it for the last two years.
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And then we test their blood work and their B12 is like through the roof.
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And we're like, we, we need you to stop that and we don't need you to be on that any longer.
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I find Glutamine is one of these as well, where.
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So I went to see a functional practitioner or just kind of looked it up on the internet themselves and they started taking Glu glutamine because it was very good for their gut health 'cause they were experiencing some gut issues and then they just continued to take it forever.
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I did have a patient once who she had esophageal cancer and she didn't know she had esophageal cancer at the time.
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When she started taking glutamine, she was experiencing a lot of GI distress.
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So, she was having like a little bit of diarrhea and.
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Some stomach pain and some heartburn.
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And she went on the internet and she decided that she was gonna take glutamine.
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And within just a couple of months, she found out that she had esophageal cancer.
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And it was always kind of sitting in the back of her mind, was it because she did the glutamine, that she spit up the growth of that cancer? And I'll never forget that kind of feeling that she was having, like the guilt, the dread.
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And we don't want that to happen for you.
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We definitely wanna be clear on what is safe and what should be taken short term versus long term and glutamine again.
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Super safe, especially if you're still in chemotherapy because as you're receiving chemotherapy, the glutamine is going to, well, basically glutamine causes the cells to grow a little bit faster of your di digestive lining.
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And that's how it helps to resolve the diarrhea and the mouth source is 'cause it's repairing those cells much more quickly.
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But if you're in chemo, chemo targets the fast growing cells.
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So if the glutamines causing it to grow faster, the chemo's still gonna be taking care of that.
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We can get you through your treatment more effectively by getting rid of those mouth sores so that you can eat better, have more energy, and continue on your directed treatment plan.
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That we can reduce the diarrhea from chemotherapy so that you don't have to lower your dose of chemo or anything like that.
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Then we're gonna give you the glutamine because we know that the, the chemotherapy is gonna be taking care of any fast-growing cancer cells for you.
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But long-term, I would say that we are actually super cautious and we do not necessarily recommend glutamine post-treatment for anyone.
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Unless they've got major digestive issues, and then we'll only give it to them for like a month if that.
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And we'll monitor.
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Monitor the dose as well, because there's a difference between whenever some people take it at five grams per day and then some prescriptions for like irritable bowel disease or whatever might be up to like 15 grams per day.
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We wanna be cautious and focused whenever we're choosing glutamine for people for sure.
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Alright, so that was glutamine.
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So we did glutathione, we did glutamine.
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Now I wanna talk about iron.
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It's another one that again, we do recommend often, kind of like glutathione.
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We recommend iron quite often, but we only recommend it when our clients have low iron.
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Whereas again, it's one of the things like the B12 where someone's like, I had low iron a couple years ago, so I start taking it, but no one ever told 'em to stop it.
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And they're just kind of bringing their levels up high.
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And the other reason we see a lot of people on iron is 'cause they've got a lot of fatigue and they think that iron's going to resolve it.
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But really if your iron levels are already adequate and optimal, so we're saying about above 50 maybe 50 to like a hundred, 150 on blood work.
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Then we don't want you to be taking an iron pill.
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But I would say the majority of our clients actually have very low iron and they have a lot of fatigue.
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And the reasons are, whether it's because of the cancer treatment that they went through, had an impact on like their red blood cells or their, their.
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Their iron, their ability to keep iron in their body that'll allow lower their iron.
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So we're always testing someone's ferritin as well as their iron panel on blood work because we wanna see if you're low, you definitely can safely supplement.
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But if it's already adequate levels on blood work, like I would say around 50, then we probably wanna make sure that you're not taking a supplement at all.
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The reason being is that.
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The high iron can actually be a fuel for cancer cells.
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It likes to eat it, it likes it to, to eat it in order to proliferate, and also if we have high iron levels.
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It could either be due to inflammation.
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So if we're testing someone's ferritin and it's high, that could be typically a sign that they have a lot of inflammation in the body.
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And also having a lot of high ferritin, like having that ferritin being high is contributing to inflammation.
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So not is, not only is inflammation causing high ferritin.
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High ferritin is causing more inflammation and oxidative stress, and these are both contributors to cancer cell changes and causing them to start in the first place.
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And also encouraging cancer to grow is that inflammation and oxidative stress.
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So we wanna be careful about that.
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So really we only recommend iron if you've had your blood work done recently and only whenever your ferritin is below 50.
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And really, if you're below 50 and you otherwise feel good, you don't have a lot of.
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CO because iron plays a role in so many things.
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So if you don't have a lot of fatigue, if you don't have a lot of shortness of breath.
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If you don't have a lot of anxiety or depression, 'cause adequate iron has also been shown to improve anxiety and depression.
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If you, I'm trying to think of other ways that iron is beneficial, but basically if you don't have any symptoms of why iron being low and but your, your levels are below 50, then we still wouldn't necessarily supplement depending on how low it is.
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But if you've got symptoms.
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And it's 50 or like below 50, then we would probably wanna supplement.
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If it's above a hundred, 150, then we definitely don't wanna supplement for sure, because that could be fueling the cancer growth.
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So again, I wanna be clear on this one 'cause I know a lot of my clients are listening and they're like, well, I was told to take iron.
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You were told with good purpose because your ferritin is probably below 50.
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And potentially you might be vegan, vegetarian, and we've got you on like a low dose maintenance iron over time as well.
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But if your iron is high, we definitely don't want you on iron and it's rare that we see that.
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But I just wanna put out there so that everyone knows that iron at high doses is not necessarily the best thing for you to be taking.
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Because it might encourage cancer to start and grow.
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All right, so the fourth and last one I wanted to chat about today is something that I feel like we'll get a lot of feathers ruffled as well.
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But I do stand very strong in my belief that apricot seeds are not something that we want cancer survivors taking.
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The reason is that there's actually amygdala that's produced, which is thought to be the anti-cancer impact, which is the B 17, but apricot seeds actually produce cyanide in the body.
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And yes, the levels are low, but so many times we've got people coming to us and they're afraid of every little thing from their, the, the microplastics and non-organic foods and things like that.
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But here they are taking apricot seed with the cyanide being produced in it and.
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I just feel like if we're gonna be if we're gonna be so in depth with choosing specific clean foods and clean products, that I feel like your supplements should be definitely clean as well and not producing cyanide in your body.
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The big reason I'm not on this apricot seed train is that there is no research.
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We might have one study and I, I've searched for it.
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I have had so many people on Instagram say like.
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Oh, my functional medicine doctor recommend apricot seeds, and I've even had functional medical professionals reach out to me.
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He's like, we recommend apricot seeds.
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Here's the research.
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I look into it.
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There's no actual research.
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It's like a rat study.
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Or a really, really poorly done.
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A case of two or three people taking apricot seeds and showing potential benefit.
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And to me, there's so many other things we could do that are way more impactful.
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And I, I really apologize if I ruffle anyone's feathers.
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This podcast is totally for you to take what works for you and leave what doesn't.
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But to me, I feel like apricot seeds, they don't work.
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So basically there's, there's no reliable evidence of benefit of apricot seeds.
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But there's definite risk of harm.
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'cause we even have human studies showing that people, and granted they take too many of the seeds, but they take many seeds over a longer period of time, or sometimes a lot in a short period of time, and they end up in the hospital because of the cyanide In these seeds, we're really not meant to eat the seeds, we're meant to eat the fruits of things, right.
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We just can't really break them down appropriately.
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Our body doesn't move things outta the body and appropriately.
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And then also it creates cyanide.
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It is toxic.
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So I'm really not on the apricot seed bandwagon here.
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Again, I do feel like we can be way more impactful and resourceful with what we're encouraging people to take.
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And there are way more effective, safer options than.
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Apricot seeds.
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Alright, so I hope you learned a few tidbits on here that can help you to navigate your supplement choices a little bit more safely.
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I just always have to point out you can't outs supplement the deeper contributors to cancer.
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We can't just take her human and expect chronic inflammation to be resolved.
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We wanna dig in a little bit deeper to see what is behind the inflammation as best as we can.
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We can't just take cancer killing supplements that are gonna talk tackle colon cancer cells whenever you've got a microflora imbalance and inflamed gut lining.
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We can't just expect a cancer killing supplement to kill off all the cancer cells when we should really be focusing on antioxidant support in your body through foods and stress reduction and things like that.
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Honestly, no cancer killing supplement's gonna make a true dent until we look a little bit deeper into what's going on in your body.
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What's contributing to cancer starting and growing, and how can we create this environment where cancer just doesn't wanna be? But I know that you're trying to do things right.
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I see your efforts.
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I totally commend you for it.
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I love it.
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Keep moving forward, keep seeking out information.
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I think it's fantastic.
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And I do find that the moment that you start to gather your own data and kind of block out a lot of the extra noise whenever you start to understand what do you really need for your body when it comes to more comprehensive blood work.
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Or just looking at your particular health history.
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Have you struggled with hormone issues or gut issues or stress or things like that? Those are gonna be the big needle movers.
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And you can always do lifestyle changes as well as supplements to encourage those big needle movers as opposed to latching onto cancer, killing this anti-cancer.
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That, and whenever you understand what's best for your body, you can lead with more intention and focus and it just, the world opens up, you feel less stress, you feel more motivated.
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It's less like a deer in a headlights, and you just can kind of feel like you're on the right track again.
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So that's where I want you to put your attention and your energy is into figuring out what works best for you.
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What are your facts and data? What is the research truly saying? Let's cut out the noise from Sally on the internet, although we'll listen to her a little bit, but we mostly wanna see is it really important for you? What is the most impactful thing, and not just do what someone else is doing.
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All right, so just a little recap and I'll let you go for today.
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So the supplements that we, my team and I will approach with caution whenever we're supporting someone who has finished cancer treatment or nearly finished cancer treatment and they're looking to feel better, reduce their risk of cancer coming back.
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The things that we're gonna be most cautious about are glutathione, which can be helpful in the right context.
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Again, we do recommend equate regularly, but we don't want it to be recommended in someone who has cancer 'cause it can be risky.
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Someone who has an active cancer diagnosis.
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Glutamine is okay short-term during treatment, but it's really not ideal long-term, and mostly we use it for managing side effects from treatment.
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Iron is essential only if you're truly deficient and apricot seeds are, we don't recommend them because they have clear toxicity issues and unclear benefits for sure.
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So thank you all for hanging out.
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I hope that was helpful to you.
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If you have any questions, you can go find me on Instagram at Megan Bernard nd and otherwise, here's to you Flourishing After Cancer.
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Thank you so much for joining me today on the Flourish After Cancer Podcast.
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If you love this episode, please be sure to leave a review and subscribe so you never miss an episode.
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Sending all my best your way, Dr.
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Megan.