June 11, 2025 • 17 mins
This episode explores the nuanced relationship between potential, possibility, and purpose, and how understanding these concepts can empower individuals and organizations—especially in libraries, theological education, and higher education—to cultivate professional wellbeing and inspire positive change.
Quote of the Episode: “Potential is, full stop. And potential will always be there no matter which choices we're presented with and which decision we ultimately make. Potential, that extant capacity to become something in the future, persists and changes shape as our future changes shape through our choices and decisions.”
Key Themes:
- Potential vs. Possibility: Myka distinguishes between potential (the inherent capacity to develop in the future) and possibility (the paths that become available when potential is activated). Possibility flows out of potential, but both need to be grounded in a clear sense of purpose to lead to meaningful transformation.
- The Role of Purpose: Purpose acts as the anchor that gives meaning to both potential and possibility. Myka shares her own journey clarifying Fosgail’s purpose and how this clarity has shaped the firm’s direction and methodology, including the development of the FLIP-R coaching approach.
- Opening Possibilities: Opening possibilities is not just about envisioning what could be, but about connecting to purpose, exploring present potential, and intentionally choosing which paths to pursue. Myka emphasizes that potential is ever-present and shaped by context, not diminished by past choices or current limitations.
Reflective Questions: Myka offers five reflective questions to help listeners recalibrate their thinking around purpose, potential, and possibility:
- Where is the unexplored potential in this situation?
- What possibilities can you imagine?
- What would it take to open new possibilities?
- How does your purpose align with the situation, and where are the points of friction?
- With greater awareness, how might you connect with potential to open those possibilities?
Read the companion blog post: https://www.fosgail.org/blog/2025/06/10/2026-06-10_reflecting-on-3-ps/
To sign up for the Fosgail Field Notes newsletter: https://www.fosgail.org/discover-more/newsletter/
To join the Fosgail Community: https://community.fosgail.org
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(00:13):
Hello and welcome to the fourthepisode of The Fosgail Mindset.
I'm your host, Myka Kennedy Stephens,founder and CEO of Fosgail, a
coaching and consulting firmspecializing in libraries, theological
education, and higher education.
My goal for this podcast is to sharecontent that focuses on awareness,
(00:34):
attitudes, and practices that helpcultivate professional wellbeing
for those who seek to support thedevelopment of a compassionate
and well-informed human society.
In this episode, I'mreflecting on potential.
My original intent was toexplore potential as a way of
getting out of siloed thinking.
(00:54):
I was going to tie it in to some of theprinciples I talked about in my book,
Integrated Library Planning, whichpresents a framework for libraries
that blends strategic planning withoperational planning and evaluation.
Exploring potential can help breakdown the barriers between one mode of
thinking and another building bridgesbetween those compartmentalized spaces
(01:18):
our brains construct to help us manageand understand the information we hold.
However, my brain had different ideasabout developing that thought further.
Every time I set my mind to thinkingabout the topic of potential, my brain
was hijacked by another train of thoughtthat's been running a constant circle
(01:41):
within me over the past few weeks.
What's the connection betweenpotential and possibility, and what
might it mean to open possibilities?
What I came to realize is thatpotential and possibility must
be grounded in purpose to lead tomeaningful transformation and change.
(02:04):
Any conversation about potential orpossibility will lack significance if it
does not also draw on a sense of purpose.
Let me explain.
First, let's look at the connectionbetween potential and possibility.
Potential and possibility are relatedwords that are often used synonymously.
(02:25):
Oxford languages defines potentialas an adjective that means, "having
or showing the capacity to becomeor develop into something in the
future," and the plural of possibilityas meaning, "unspecified qualities
of a promising nature; potential."
However, I understand these twoterms and their relationship to
(02:48):
each other in a more nuanced way.
I see possibility as somethingthat flows out of potential.
While potential is something that'spresent and extant, surviving and
being shaped by the conditionsor circumstances surrounding it.
One requires action and imaginationto be brought into being.
(03:11):
The other is persistentyet changing and adapting.
As someone who naturally defaults todoing and action-oriented tasks when
under stress, I think this is part of thereason why I found it uncomfortable to
sit with the concept of potential as Icontemplated the topic of this podcast.
(03:35):
My brain was also more than willingto follow the distraction toward
ruminating on possibility, especiallyafter conversations I've had over the
past several weeks about Fosgail'stagline, which is Open Possibilities,
and what it means exactly.
I am in the midst of preparing to exhibitat two library conferences this summer.
(03:59):
This feels like a huge step and rite ofpassage for me as a small business owner.
It's one thing to put yourself outthere on social media where people
can either react or not to thecontent that you put out there.
You don't have to see them scrollpast your content to move on to
something that's more interesting.
You don't have to watch themavoid eye contact or whisper to a
(04:22):
colleague before just walking on by.
But exhibiting at a conference offers mean opportunity to talk face-to-face with
people, to make new connections, and tohear about their hopes and challenges
in a way that's nearly impossibleto recreate in a digital landscape.
Thinking about it is bothexciting and terrifying.
(04:45):
The amount of preparation forexhibiting has been a heavier lift
psychologically and creativelyfor me than I expected it to be.
It is first and foremost a marketingopportunity, and I've spent the past
15-plus months in a very reflective andintentional space with marketing, thanks
to the support of the Better Bolder Bravercommunity (shout out to Frances Fogel!).
(05:11):
As I contemplated my booth design,giveaways, and lead capturing methods, I
found myself returning to questions thatI've been trying to answer for months.
Who is my audience?
What are they looking for?
What will this mean to them?
Fosgail's tagline, Open Possibilities,has become the lightning rod for a
(05:33):
lot of these thoughts and questions.
I chose this tagline early in my businessdevelopment, and it's been on the
Fosgail website since the very beginning.
I really like it and I've become ratherattached to it for better or for worse.
But what does it really mean?
And am I successfullycommunicating what I mean by it?
(05:56):
In order to answer these questions andfully understand what "open possibilities"
means to me, both generally and withinthe specific context of Fosgail,
I have to circle back to purpose.
I founded Fosgail because I believethat professionals who desire to infuse
(06:17):
their work with values and purpose, whowant to inspire positive change in their
communities and who seek to supportthe development of a compassionate and
well-informed human society, deserve tohave someone in their corner cheering them
on and empowering them to learn, integratenew knowledge, problem-solve, and reflect.
(06:40):
I gave this coaching and consultingfirm the name Fosgail, because I
believe openness is a key componentto fulfilling this purpose.
And Fosgail is the ScottishGaelic word for open.
What was initially one of severalcore values that I use to articulate
what inspires and supports Fosgail'smission has become a guiding principle.
(07:04):
Finding the roots of openness inFosgail's purpose now allows me
to better understand potential.
In clarifying Fosgail's purpose.
I have made several decisionsthat shape our potential as a
coaching and consulting firm.
Clarity of purpose has carried overinto clarity of potential, and this
(07:26):
clarity helps me to solidify the aspectsof awareness, attitudes, and practices
that comprise the Fosgail Mindset.
It also recently helped me tore-articulate the methodology that I bring
to my coaching and consulting approach,which I'm now calling the FLIP-R approach.
The Fosgail Mindset and our trademarkedFLIP-R approach to coaching and consulting
(07:52):
is not going to resonate with everyone.
And you know what?
That's okay, because both of thesedevelopments were brought forth by
clarifying purpose and they're evidenceof Fosgail's potential to support
future clients in their meaningful work.
Seeing clearer potential makesit easier to set a strategic
(08:15):
direction and open possibilities.
Which brings me full circle to thequestion that's been my preoccupation
for the last several weeks.
What does it mean to open possibilities?
If potential is always present, shapedby context and circumstance, then
possibility becomes the various pathsthat might be taken and realized.
(08:39):
Possibility flows from potential.
It is a thread that may be followedto the next point in time and space; a
point in time and space where contextand circumstance may be different.
Opening possibilities means connectingto a sense of purpose, exploring the
(09:00):
potential of the current situation,and imagining all the threads
that extend from that potential.
Each of these threads leadsto a unique possibility.
Some may be pursued and reachedsimultaneously or in tandem, while
others might be mutually exclusive.
(09:20):
Choosing which threads to followand acting on that decision
is what opens possibilities.
And that's where I see Fosgail beingmost effective as a provider of
coaching and consulting services.
We can help you discover purpose, explorepotential, and open possibilities.
(09:42):
Exploring potential can be trulyempowering when it's framed
by purpose and possibility.
Have you ever said, "they hadsuch potential," or have you heard
someone else saying that phrase?
I've heard this phrase too oftenthroughout my life, in reference
to myself, my friends, my children,or even my children's friends.
(10:09):
The usage of the past tense—hadpotential—is indicative of the
speaker's opinion on choices made bythe subject of the phrase, and that
opinion is usually a negative one.
The implication is that potentialhas been squandered or lost as a
result of choices that were made.
(10:29):
When caught on the receiving end of sucha statement, the effect on our self-esteem
and confidence can be damaging.
Life is made up of choices.
Each decision we makeleads to more choices.
Potential is not generated by somechoices or decisions and not others.
(10:49):
Potential is, full stop.
And potential will always be there nomatter which choices we're presented with
and which decision we ultimately make.
Potential, that extant capacity to becomesomething in the future, persists and
changes shape as our future changesshape through our choices and decisions.
(11:13):
For example, a person with artisticabilities does not lose their potential
by pursuing a career outside of art.
They have just as much potential asthey did before they made that choice.
What has changed, however, is that theirpotential is now shaped by the context
and circumstance of the decision to pursuea career outside of art instead of being
(11:38):
shaped solely by their artistic ability.
The same holds true forour work situations, our
institutions and organizations.
Being in a resource-deprived environment,like an underfunded library or a college
with declining enrollment, can be seenas a situation bereft of potential.
(11:59):
But in actuality, there's just as muchpotential in these situations as there
is in a resource-rich environment.
What is the difference is the context andcircumstance that's shaping the potential.
Getting caught up in the negative,like focusing on poor choices that were
made in the past or fixating on all thethings that are lacking, only amplify the
(12:21):
perception that potential is diminished.
If we choose instead to fully explorepotential and reference that exploration
with how we define our purpose,we're empowered to imagine and open
possibilities that are within our reach.
It's not always easy or straightforwardto flip your thinking from one of
(12:45):
limited potential to open possibility.
As illustrated by my own thought journey,we have to be willing to reflect on
purpose, potential, and possibility touncover the connections and imagine the
full spectrum of what the future may hold.
I've come up with five questions thatmay help you reflect and recalibrate
(13:09):
how you think of purpose, potential,and possibility if you're feeling stuck.
First (13:15):
where is the unexplored potential in this situation?
You may believe you've fully mappedout the situation and are aware of all
the avenues available to you, but it'salways helpful to go back and reexamine.
Try looking at the situationfrom a fresh perspective.
Hidden potential might be lyingin a place that's not visible to
(13:37):
you from your usual vantage point.
Second (13:41):
what possibilities can you imagine?
This question encouragesyou to dream a little.
While staying grounded in presentrealities, visualize possible futures.
Use all your senses and think ofwhat you can see, touch, feel, taste,
(14:02):
and hear in these possible futures.
Third (14:06):
what would it take to open new possibilities?
Once you've imagined somepossibilities, think through what
skills, resources, and tools mighthelp you to open possibilities.
Try to avoid eliminating anypossibilities because you don't have
the right skills, resources, and tools.
(14:27):
This is just about identifyingwhat would support you.
Fourth (14:31):
how does your purpose align with the situation, and
where are the points of friction?
This is an important reflective questionthat takes you deeper into what lies
underneath potential and possibility.
The points of alignment between ourpurpose and a situation positively
affects our perception of potential.
(14:54):
The points of friction between our purposeand a situation have a negative effect.
If there's more friction than alignment,this may be a signal to focus on potential
and possibilities that help realign you oryour organization with a sense of purpose.
And finally, fifth (15:12):
with greater awareness of your sense of purpose
and the possibilities you imagine,how might you connect with potential
to open those possibilities?
Harnessing all the potentialin a situation can empower you
to open amazing possibilities.
Especially when it is tethered inone direction to a deep sense of
(15:35):
purpose and in the other direction toa positively grounded future vision.
This is the place to proclaim,"there's just as much potential here
as there was before," and to silencethe dissenting voices who would
say that potential has been lost.
I hope you've enjoyed this reflection.
(15:56):
If you did and would like to engagein further conversation, I invite
you to join the Fosgail community.
It's a membership platform thatprovides a space for discussion,
encouragement, inspiration, and support.
The always open, forever free tier is opento anyone who is looking for a safe and
supportive space to explore the challengesof leadership in uncertain times and
(16:20):
cultivating professional wellbeing.
I hope to see you there.
I also encourage you to sign up forFosgail's newsletter Field Notes.
It goes out monthly and includes promptsfor reflection, the latest from our
blog and podcast, upcoming opportunitiesand behind the scenes miscellanea
and news from the Fosgail team.
(16:41):
Links to join the community and signup for our newsletter are in the
show notes, as well as a link tothe blog version of this podcast.
Thank you for joining me for thisepisode of the Fosgail Mindset.
Do subscribe using your favoritepodcast provider so that you can
receive new episodes as we drop them.
(17:02):
You will definitely want to tune in toour next episode, an extended conversation
with author and activist CynthiaChangyit-Levin on the topic of advocacy.
Until next time, I hope youfind open possibilities.
Hello and welcome to the fourthepisode of The Fosgail Mindset.
I'm your host, Myka Kennedy Stephens,founder and CEO of Fosgail, a
coaching and consulting firmspecializing in libraries, theological
education, and higher education.
My goal for this podcast is to sharecontent that focuses on awareness,
(00:34):
attitudes, and practices that helpcultivate professional wellbeing
for those who seek to support thedevelopment of a compassionate
and well-informed human society.
In this episode, I'mreflecting on potential.
My original intent was toexplore potential as a way of
getting out of siloed thinking.
(00:54):
I was going to tie it in to some of theprinciples I talked about in my book,
Integrated Library Planning, whichpresents a framework for libraries
that blends strategic planning withoperational planning and evaluation.
Exploring potential can help breakdown the barriers between one mode of
thinking and another building bridgesbetween those compartmentalized spaces
(01:18):
our brains construct to help us manageand understand the information we hold.
However, my brain had different ideasabout developing that thought further.
Every time I set my mind to thinkingabout the topic of potential, my brain
was hijacked by another train of thoughtthat's been running a constant circle
(01:41):
within me over the past few weeks.
What's the connection betweenpotential and possibility, and what
might it mean to open possibilities?
What I came to realize is thatpotential and possibility must
be grounded in purpose to lead tomeaningful transformation and change.
(02:04):
Any conversation about potential orpossibility will lack significance if it
does not also draw on a sense of purpose.
Let me explain.
First, let's look at the connectionbetween potential and possibility.
Potential and possibility are relatedwords that are often used synonymously.
(02:25):
Oxford languages defines potentialas an adjective that means, "having
or showing the capacity to becomeor develop into something in the
future," and the plural of possibilityas meaning, "unspecified qualities
of a promising nature; potential."
However, I understand these twoterms and their relationship to
(02:48):
each other in a more nuanced way.
I see possibility as somethingthat flows out of potential.
While potential is something that'spresent and extant, surviving and
being shaped by the conditionsor circumstances surrounding it.
One requires action and imaginationto be brought into being.
(03:11):
The other is persistentyet changing and adapting.
As someone who naturally defaults todoing and action-oriented tasks when
under stress, I think this is part of thereason why I found it uncomfortable to
sit with the concept of potential as Icontemplated the topic of this podcast.
(03:35):
My brain was also more than willingto follow the distraction toward
ruminating on possibility, especiallyafter conversations I've had over the
past several weeks about Fosgail'stagline, which is Open Possibilities,
and what it means exactly.
I am in the midst of preparing to exhibitat two library conferences this summer.
(03:59):
This feels like a huge step and rite ofpassage for me as a small business owner.
It's one thing to put yourself outthere on social media where people
can either react or not to thecontent that you put out there.
You don't have to see them scrollpast your content to move on to
something that's more interesting.
You don't have to watch themavoid eye contact or whisper to a
(04:22):
colleague before just walking on by.
But exhibiting at a conference offers mean opportunity to talk face-to-face with
people, to make new connections, and tohear about their hopes and challenges
in a way that's nearly impossibleto recreate in a digital landscape.
Thinking about it is bothexciting and terrifying.
(04:45):
The amount of preparation forexhibiting has been a heavier lift
psychologically and creativelyfor me than I expected it to be.
It is first and foremost a marketingopportunity, and I've spent the past
15-plus months in a very reflective andintentional space with marketing, thanks
to the support of the Better Bolder Bravercommunity (shout out to Frances Fogel!).
(05:11):
As I contemplated my booth design,giveaways, and lead capturing methods, I
found myself returning to questions thatI've been trying to answer for months.
Who is my audience?
What are they looking for?
What will this mean to them?
Fosgail's tagline, Open Possibilities,has become the lightning rod for a
(05:33):
lot of these thoughts and questions.
I chose this tagline early in my businessdevelopment, and it's been on the
Fosgail website since the very beginning.
I really like it and I've become ratherattached to it for better or for worse.
But what does it really mean?
And am I successfullycommunicating what I mean by it?
(05:56):
In order to answer these questions andfully understand what "open possibilities"
means to me, both generally and withinthe specific context of Fosgail,
I have to circle back to purpose.
I founded Fosgail because I believethat professionals who desire to infuse
(06:17):
their work with values and purpose, whowant to inspire positive change in their
communities and who seek to supportthe development of a compassionate and
well-informed human society, deserve tohave someone in their corner cheering them
on and empowering them to learn, integratenew knowledge, problem-solve, and reflect.
(06:40):
I gave this coaching and consultingfirm the name Fosgail, because I
believe openness is a key componentto fulfilling this purpose.
And Fosgail is the ScottishGaelic word for open.
What was initially one of severalcore values that I use to articulate
what inspires and supports Fosgail'smission has become a guiding principle.
(07:04):
Finding the roots of openness inFosgail's purpose now allows me
to better understand potential.
In clarifying Fosgail's purpose.
I have made several decisionsthat shape our potential as a
coaching and consulting firm.
Clarity of purpose has carried overinto clarity of potential, and this
(07:26):
clarity helps me to solidify the aspectsof awareness, attitudes, and practices
that comprise the Fosgail Mindset.
It also recently helped me tore-articulate the methodology that I bring
to my coaching and consulting approach,which I'm now calling the FLIP-R approach.
The Fosgail Mindset and our trademarkedFLIP-R approach to coaching and consulting
(07:52):
is not going to resonate with everyone.
And you know what?
That's okay, because both of thesedevelopments were brought forth by
clarifying purpose and they're evidenceof Fosgail's potential to support
future clients in their meaningful work.
Seeing clearer potential makesit easier to set a strategic
(08:15):
direction and open possibilities.
Which brings me full circle to thequestion that's been my preoccupation
for the last several weeks.
What does it mean to open possibilities?
If potential is always present, shapedby context and circumstance, then
possibility becomes the various pathsthat might be taken and realized.
(08:39):
Possibility flows from potential.
It is a thread that may be followedto the next point in time and space; a
point in time and space where contextand circumstance may be different.
Opening possibilities means connectingto a sense of purpose, exploring the
(09:00):
potential of the current situation,and imagining all the threads
that extend from that potential.
Each of these threads leadsto a unique possibility.
Some may be pursued and reachedsimultaneously or in tandem, while
others might be mutually exclusive.
(09:20):
Choosing which threads to followand acting on that decision
is what opens possibilities.
And that's where I see Fosgail beingmost effective as a provider of
coaching and consulting services.
We can help you discover purpose, explorepotential, and open possibilities.
(09:42):
Exploring potential can be trulyempowering when it's framed
by purpose and possibility.
Have you ever said, "they hadsuch potential," or have you heard
someone else saying that phrase?
I've heard this phrase too oftenthroughout my life, in reference
to myself, my friends, my children,or even my children's friends.
(10:09):
The usage of the past tense—hadpotential—is indicative of the
speaker's opinion on choices made bythe subject of the phrase, and that
opinion is usually a negative one.
The implication is that potentialhas been squandered or lost as a
result of choices that were made.
(10:29):
When caught on the receiving end of sucha statement, the effect on our self-esteem
and confidence can be damaging.
Life is made up of choices.
Each decision we makeleads to more choices.
Potential is not generated by somechoices or decisions and not others.
(10:49):
Potential is, full stop.
And potential will always be there nomatter which choices we're presented with
and which decision we ultimately make.
Potential, that extant capacity to becomesomething in the future, persists and
changes shape as our future changesshape through our choices and decisions.
(11:13):
For example, a person with artisticabilities does not lose their potential
by pursuing a career outside of art.
They have just as much potential asthey did before they made that choice.
What has changed, however, is that theirpotential is now shaped by the context
and circumstance of the decision to pursuea career outside of art instead of being
(11:38):
shaped solely by their artistic ability.
The same holds true forour work situations, our
institutions and organizations.
Being in a resource-deprived environment,like an underfunded library or a college
with declining enrollment, can be seenas a situation bereft of potential.
(11:59):
But in actuality, there's just as muchpotential in these situations as there
is in a resource-rich environment.
What is the difference is the context andcircumstance that's shaping the potential.
Getting caught up in the negative,like focusing on poor choices that were
made in the past or fixating on all thethings that are lacking, only amplify the
(12:21):
perception that potential is diminished.
If we choose instead to fully explorepotential and reference that exploration
with how we define our purpose,we're empowered to imagine and open
possibilities that are within our reach.
It's not always easy or straightforwardto flip your thinking from one of
(12:45):
limited potential to open possibility.
As illustrated by my own thought journey,we have to be willing to reflect on
purpose, potential, and possibility touncover the connections and imagine the
full spectrum of what the future may hold.
I've come up with five questions thatmay help you reflect and recalibrate
(13:09):
how you think of purpose, potential,and possibility if you're feeling stuck.
First (13:15):
where is the unexplored potential in this situation?
You may believe you've fully mappedout the situation and are aware of all
the avenues available to you, but it'salways helpful to go back and reexamine.
Try looking at the situationfrom a fresh perspective.
Hidden potential might be lyingin a place that's not visible to
(13:37):
you from your usual vantage point.
Second (13:41):
what possibilities can you imagine?
This question encouragesyou to dream a little.
While staying grounded in presentrealities, visualize possible futures.
Use all your senses and think ofwhat you can see, touch, feel, taste,
(14:02):
and hear in these possible futures.
Third (14:06):
what would it take to open new possibilities?
Once you've imagined somepossibilities, think through what
skills, resources, and tools mighthelp you to open possibilities.
Try to avoid eliminating anypossibilities because you don't have
the right skills, resources, and tools.
(14:27):
This is just about identifyingwhat would support you.
Fourth (14:31):
how does your purpose align with the situation, and
where are the points of friction?
This is an important reflective questionthat takes you deeper into what lies
underneath potential and possibility.
The points of alignment between ourpurpose and a situation positively
affects our perception of potential.
(14:54):
The points of friction between our purposeand a situation have a negative effect.
If there's more friction than alignment,this may be a signal to focus on potential
and possibilities that help realign you oryour organization with a sense of purpose.
And finally, fifth (15:12):
with greater awareness of your sense of purpose
and the possibilities you imagine,how might you connect with potential
to open those possibilities?
Harnessing all the potentialin a situation can empower you
to open amazing possibilities.
Especially when it is tethered inone direction to a deep sense of
(15:35):
purpose and in the other direction toa positively grounded future vision.
This is the place to proclaim,"there's just as much potential here
as there was before," and to silencethe dissenting voices who would
say that potential has been lost.
I hope you've enjoyed this reflection.
(15:56):
If you did and would like to engagein further conversation, I invite
you to join the Fosgail community.
It's a membership platform thatprovides a space for discussion,
encouragement, inspiration, and support.
The always open, forever free tier is opento anyone who is looking for a safe and
supportive space to explore the challengesof leadership in uncertain times and
(16:20):
cultivating professional wellbeing.
I hope to see you there.
I also encourage you to sign up forFosgail's newsletter Field Notes.
It goes out monthly and includes promptsfor reflection, the latest from our
blog and podcast, upcoming opportunitiesand behind the scenes miscellanea
and news from the Fosgail team.
(16:41):
Links to join the community and signup for our newsletter are in the
show notes, as well as a link tothe blog version of this podcast.
Thank you for joining me for thisepisode of the Fosgail Mindset.
Do subscribe using your favoritepodcast provider so that you can
receive new episodes as we drop them.
(17:02):
You will definitely want to tune in toour next episode, an extended conversation
with author and activist CynthiaChangyit-Levin on the topic of advocacy.
Until next time, I hope youfind open possibilities.
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History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.