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July 30, 2025 33 mins

We sit down with Kirill Klokov, CEO of Truv, to break down everything lenders need to know about income verification providers. 

Vetting Income Verification Vendors

  • Why most providers use the same underlying data sources
  • The power of back-testing analysis on your own data
  • Smart questions sophisticated lenders ask during RFPs

The Consumer Experience

  • Why 35% of users drop off at bank login screens
  • How to build a smart "waterfall" approach (spoiler: start cheap, then hit instant databases)
  • The messaging that actually works with borrowers

Beyond Basic Income Verification

  • Why a "complete product" covers W2s, gig workers, benefits, and self-employed
  • How payroll data beats bank data for complex income situations
  • The complexity of underwriting sales reps vs. salaried workers

AI's Impact on Lending

  • How AI is eliminating manual QA and bug fixes
  • Why payroll data becomes more valuable as AI-generated fraud gets better
  • The future of mortgage loan officers (hint: they're not going anywhere)

Truv's New Business Model

  • Their shift from per-transaction pricing to "pay when the loan closes"
  • How this aligns incentives and removes upfront risk for lenders

Find Kirill Klokov on LinkedIn:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirillklokov/

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