In this enlightening episode of The Fully Connected Podcast, host Chris Jones, LSCSW, sits down with licensed therapist Christina Winesberry from Indigo Butterfly Counseling for a deep dive into the world of spirituality, mental health, and the complexities of modern relationships.
Christina shares her unique perspective on what it means to be an Indigo Child and explains why so many people identify as spiritual rather than religious. Together, Chris and Christina break down the stigma surrounding spirituality in the Black community and explore how our phones and social media are silently sabotaging our personal connections.
Listeners will hear Christina’s thoughts on handling tough situations, breaking free from self-sabotage, and her incredible success story of helping a client overcome crippling anxiety. Christina also shares her candid thoughts on why she avoids labeling her clients, the dangers of spiritual bypassing, and how mental health can sometimes be intertwined with deeper spiritual issues.
Whether you're navigating relationship challenges, exploring your spiritual path, or simply looking for insightful tips on personal growth, this episode offers something for everyone. Get ready to challenge your mindset, laugh, and reflect with Chris and Christina as they bring clarity and connection to life's biggest questions.
Chapter 1: Introduction and Podcast Beginnings 0:00 - Coming Up! 1:01 - Show Starts!
Chapter 2: Therapy and Spirituality 2:24 - Christina Talks about Therapy at Indigo Butterfly Counseling 3:20 - What is an Indigo Child? & Spirituality 5:09 - "I'm Not Religious, I'm Spiritual" - The Meaning of the Saying
Chapter 3: Spirituality and the Black Community 8:35 - Stigma of Spirituality in the Black Community 11:58 - The Best Way to Practice Spirituality
Chapter 4: Benefits of Therapy and Society 14:17 - The Benefits of Therapy 15:36 - Christina's Thoughts on Society
Chapter 5: Dark Night of the Soul and Tough Times 17:46 - What is a Dark Night of the Soul? 19:32 - How To Walk Through Tough Situations
Chapter 6: Success Stories and Mental Blocks 21:00 - Christina Shares a Client's Success Story with Anxiety 24:40 - How Our Mind Can Hold Us Back
Chapter 7: Relationships and Technology 27:01 - How Phones & Social Media Destroy Relationships 28:31 - Christina's Thoughts on Modern Dating 29:18 - Fears of Leaving an Unhealthy Relationship
Chapter 8: Social Media and Connecting With Others 32:14 - Problems with Social Media 33:43 - Issues with Connecting When You're Operating on a Different Frequency
Chapter 9: Boundaries and Self-Worth 37:03 - Setting Boundaries to Take Care of Yourself 38:45 - What is Self-Sabotage? Self-Preservation and Self-Worth
Chapter 10: Unhealthy Relationships and Choices 41:41 - Why People Stay in Unhealthy Relationships 45:10 - You Always Have a Choice
Chapter 11: Labels and Spirituality in Mental Health 46:42 - Christina Shares Why She Does Not Like Labeling Clients 50:56 - Are Mental Health Issues Due to Spiritual Issues?
Chapter 12: Happiness and Society 52:12 - This is Bigger than Happiness! 56:06 - Christina Talks About Working with the Homeless in Oakland
Chapter 13: Scarcity and Spiritual Bypassing 57:44 - Scarcity and Lack Mentality 59:48 - What is Spiritual Bypassing?
Chapter 14: Materialism and Happiness 01:05:03 - "Buying Things Does Not Make You Happy, They're Just Identity Boosters"
Chapter 15: Advanced Beings and Erykah Badu's Tea 01:10:08 - How Would Advanced Beings on Other Worlds Organize Their Society? 01:12:44 - Would You Drink Erykah Badu's Tea?
Chapter 16: Awakening and Collective Consciousness 01:13:10 - How To Know if You're Going Through an Awakening & What's the Purpose 01:16:00 - Toxicity of Social Media, Collective Consciousness & Self-Awareness is Key
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