October 29, 2024 • 55 mins
Join us in this episode as we delve into the fascinating evolution of Nintendo, tracing its origins from a humble trading card company to a global gaming giant. Discover how Nintendo overcame numerous challenges, from almost being derailed by Atari to the pivotal moments that led to the creation of iconic games like Donkey Kong and Super Mario Bros.
We'll explore interesting anecdotes about the development of the Nintendo Entertainment System (NES), including its innovative marketing strategies and the various bundles that captivated gamers worldwide. Learn about the key figures behind Nintendo's success, such as Shigeru Miyamoto and Howard Lincoln, and their significant contributions to the company.
Our special guest, Darryl, shares his fond memories of classic NES games like Duck Hunt and Super Mario Bros., while we discuss the impact of these games on the gaming industry. Plus, uncover the intriguing backstory of Mario's name and the unexpected hurdles Nintendo faced along the way.
Tune in for a nostalgic journey through the history of Nintendo and its groundbreaking influence on the world of video gaming. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to the Nintendo legacy, this episode is packed with insights and entertaining stories that highlight the company's remarkable journey.
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Let me tell you how creative Spongebob is. Spongebob is grown.
Spongebob is... Spongebob situations. Yeah. Spongebob is grown.
Yes. A man lives on his own, goes to work. Work, yes. Has one best friend, Squidward's half. Yes.
Right? Yeah. Has got to deal with the fucking shitty boss.
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Yes. Mr. Crash. Yes. This is grown man stuff. Right.
With great writing. The first three seasons, obviously. but any other thing
after that is terrible. Falls off. Falls off hard.
Hard. Cam. Cam what? Spongebob.
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Spongebob. Lives in a pineapple under the sea.
You're lying, man. Spongebob square pants. No. Jinx, you owe me two sodas. We did it twice.
All right. Two sodas it is. Yes.
Or we're just got two beers that's fine too that'll work you
know what was grown as well bugs bunny was grown was it
(01:04):
yeah i don't know a lot of violence bugs bunny
was also racist yes it was yes it had a lot
in it like wow so what
i found out was you know how like in those like the older cartoons when they
started doing the yelling or any of the characters did the yelling it was always
mel blank that did it they just always changed the pitch in mel bank i think
(01:26):
was the character was the creator yeah yeah yes he was the one that always did the yelling scenes,
interesting things you learn yeah because if you there was
a video i saw said male blank doing all yelling scenes and cart in looney tunes
i'm like what so i listened to it i'm like oh my god it is him but this they
just changed the pitch on each one of them yeah some of them is just him some
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of them is just him it's like oh that's interesting i'll go find that video well i think it's in my
history i'll send it to you okay oh yeah
yeah i'm ready you sure yeah i'm ready
we got the intro now didn't it didn't mean this is all gonna be fun after colony
159 welcome to a great episode of the game past like a podcast i'm eric proceeding
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to doc kishan and we have our special guest Yes,
Daryl here with us. Hi, times two.
And today we are going to talk about the Nintendo Entertainment System,
known as the NES, for the kids who like to talk in anagrams. Yes, I believe so.
(02:35):
That's a new word to me. So most
people may know the 8-bit system by the Famicom or the family computer.
The system was released in Japan on July 15th of 1983, here in the States,
we know it as the Nintendo Entertainment System.
Say that one more time for the folks in the back.
(02:58):
Window entertainment system prestige worldwide wide wide wide.
Prestige worldwide putting in the man hours it was released october 18th 1985.
I guess when they released in 85 it was only shipped to new york and los angeles
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for obvious reasons because it was new york you know big market and they want
to see hey let's sell there so the first year was new york what they did was if i remember correctly,
they had they went to all retail stores i
think it was like between five and six hundred retail stores and
what was it they they did
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a risk free so they set up they did all their setup free they
did all themselves and all this good stuff and they had athletes come
and present the system them so the consumers that
was in the store yeah so the the uh the athletes
and the execs would be there presenting the system there was one douchebag it
was one there was one retail store i can't remember i can't remember the mall
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it was but would not allow nintendo to they would set up they would be able
to set up but they would not allow them to turn on the games because they
wanted to track the wrong crowd how would you track
the wrong crowd racism i had one
actually this is in the states or japan this was in new york okay new york this
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was in new york oh okay yeah well i wouldn't say racism i'd say prejudice would
be a more yeah accurate word for that and the nes got a worldwide release on september 27th of 1986.
That was also risk, I'm sorry to interrupt, but that was also risk-free.
So they didn't make any money after three months. Really? Mm-hmm.
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Did not know that. Yeah. They wanted to get their stuff out there.
So it's like, look, after 90 days, if you don't make whatever it is,
then just give us our cut and we'll leave. Right. That's pretty much it. Okay.
Now they're like, we're staying forever. We're making a year contract. Yeah. They did.
The 80s was a heck of a decade. Yes. Especially for video gaming. Yeah.
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Hiroshi Naomichi. He was Nintendo's president at the time in 86.
And he stated that he wanted arcade games to be placed on cartridges that could be played at home.
Masaya Yuki. You, Maria. Okay.
He was the person that designed the NES. He also had a hand in,
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you know, everyone's favorite game, Duck Hunt.
Who doesn't love Duck Hunt? That's a classic right there. And he
also had a hand in making the super nintendo so speaking
of duck hunt so uh nintendo actually had
something that was very similar to they had laser ranges so
they came out with something called the light gun and it
was just a just a laser laser gun and it
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gained so much popularity that they made ranges for it yeah but then there was
an economic crisis in japan and they actually had to shut them down they said
game over know who they want no puns flip flip flip flip flip flip flip game over.
(06:17):
Oh my goodness so the NES had a retail price of $179 and in today's world or
market it's equivalent to $522 dollars and 65 cents. Mm-hmm.
The NES sold 61.91 million and million consoles worldwide.
(06:44):
It was discontinued in the States on August 14th of 1995 and in Japan on September 25th, 2003. Why?
It was time just to move on. Oh, it was time to move on? Yeah.
2003? What was... I missed that part. I was reading. What was discontinued? The NES.
Nintendo Entertainment System. They stopped making it in 2003? In Japan.
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And japan oh wow that was a long run yeah
that's a long run yeah in the states they stopped in 95
but yeah 95 well that didn't
that the wow that was the sony playstation was out
by then sega saturn so what the
sega genesis was was it sega
32x or it has 32x right yeah what
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else was out there the 3do that was
a lot of game systems out at that time and then
super nintendo obviously superseded did it yeah that's true
it was just japan so 2003 that's
a long time long time the best-selling game was
super mario brothers 40 million units sold i mean one thing that contributed
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to that was it was a packing game so yes true legend in the game pac-man he
was he was part of the 1983 crash by by the way. Was he? Mm-hmm. Mm-mm.
The best standalone game was Super Mario Bros.
2, which sold 10 million units. Ha ha, and that's my favorite one. What?
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And we went over this on the last episode when we talked about Mario,
so if you wanted to check that out, you definitely should because- Don't be
like Wart. Make sure you eat your veggies.
Yes, eat your veggies, and just understand that Mario has antisocial disorder. Amen. Continue.
Or maybe you. Who knows? You never know. In the U.S., the NES launched with 17 games.
(08:36):
This included Ten Yard Fight.
Great game, by the way. Is it good? Yeah. I saw it was like a,
it's a football game. Yeah. Whenever you hike, the ball goes.
Yeah, I remember that game. We had baseball.
Clue Clue Clan. Or, sorry. Clue Clue Clan.
Okay. Clue Clue Clan. We're ending the podcast right now.
(08:59):
Wow we're ending it clue clue clan wow duck hunt excite bike golf euromite hogan's
alley ice climber kung fu pinball stack up super mario bros tennis wild gummin and wrecking crew,
this one became that starred mario and just went and just hammering things could
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it have led to him becoming insane,
probably by the time his girl kept getting kidnapped I would go insane too man you just gotta wait,
he does know he's getting he's on it he's on it but you gotta listen to the
rest of it man it's when you listen to it you're gonna be like oh my god what are these two thinking.
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So Nintendo officially licensed 1384 games 672 were released in Japan 186 released
in the states and 19 of them were released in the pal countries mm-hmm,
Yeah, PAL games, they don't run well. I think people with the Sony PlayStation
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Mini can figure that out.
So, speaking of games, there's some tidbits that I found out.
First off, where's my notes here?
Scrolling through my notes. So, actually, before the Famicom came out,
they had something called the AVS, which was the first model.
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It was a top loader you would be able to load the
games in but they come to find out that you can copy cartridges
and make games for them really so
how could they copy the games i thought
i didn't get too much into it i only asked i remember digging
through that nintendo put in a chip
i guess that would not allow them to play
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copy games yeah it'll it'll it'll so it was a chip it was on a timer it was
like one to two years okay or or they couldn't put any of the famicom games
and onto other systems for like two years that's what it was okay yeah i think
that's what it was but yeah there was a chip on there didn't allow you to do
that but they did the top 40 games,
for that and excite bite was once that's what got me on this subject but other
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than that yeah you were able to copy games and play it on the abs that was and
they presented it in i think it was It's an 85 at CES. Nobody bought it.
So that was the beginning of 85. And then later on is when later on that year
is when Nintendo came out.
Came out. And that's when you were you were entering the cartridge into the system.
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So they had to they actually created Rob for this, too, because they had all
kinds of equipment. They had like keyboards, mouses, stuff like that.
And they people thought that it was just too much for kids.
Lies. Nice. But Rob, Rob and it's an infinite wisdom.
A lot of people liked Rob. Robotic operating buddy.
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Rob was actually a really good compliment to the NES.
A lot of people were into that. So they started buying Rob. They sold like.
I didn't know it was that popular. Yeah, it was really popular.
I think it only worked on two games. I guess Euromite required it.
And the other one was, what was it? Duck Hunt.
Duck Hunt? Yeah. No, Rob probably shot it down for you.
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So a couple other tidbits with nintendo which
i thought were interesting so i was just i was just uh talking with daryl earlier
about this so they had hanafuda cards so the original person original president
for nintendo nintendo was actually a car a trading card company the hanafuda
cards or flower cards were sold in the kanto region and also whatever region that hanaf,
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yamaguchi was from i can't remember but yeah and then the yakuza actually used
them for gambling didn't they i did read that nintendo was fearful of the yakuza
yeah grabbing all the consoles who,
is not fearful of the yakuza those people i don't
want to mess with right so i guess that's when they switched up like
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their release schedules what happened so in
1907 so all this started in 1899 mind
you so nintendo's been out for a while just not on the
game side yet that's where my mind is blown
yeah yeah when you go down and realize all these
companies were one thing and then i guess they diversified something
else like holy cow so they got they were in 1907 they were the first manufacturer
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of trading card companies in the west and then by 1929 they were the largest
trading card company amazing on cards yeah just on cards that's crazy i guess
those are form of Entertainment,
what did you say? 1927? 1929.
1907 was when they were the first manufacturer in the West. So TV wasn't around then?
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No, not at all. You sure? TV in 1907?
Maybe. Radio was. So entertainment was radio trading.
Okay. So then let's see, you had a couple family changes in the presidency. Yeah.
Nintendo actually got renamed at one point to Nintendo Company Limited,
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and they struck a deal with Disney to make playing cards for them.
Wow. Yeah, they tried other things. They failed at rice bowl packaging.
So just things you buy from the grocery
store, I guess, or maybe surprise packages. Oh, here's a rice bowl.
They tried to do a Love Hotel. A Love Hotel. Yeah. Oh, yeah,
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they're into that thing.
Well, I mean, yeah, they're kind of like a pretty open, but perverse.
Country in a sense and not in a bad way right not a
bad way i guess it's just normal for them yeah social
but unless like you're one of those
weirdos on the train groping people that you should be
you should be shot and stabbed again i'm extreme but you
you know whatever some punishment for doing
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something wrong right right and then love hotel not
the love hotel that should be consensual on both ends that's not
the oh i'm taking your love hotel so you know what this means no no
that's not how that works uh that works so everyone consent is
important consent is important females consent yes communicate
is this okay it's not oh is that is
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this not okay please communicate anyway signatures
that's what we yeah well no that's for nda that's a totally different story
that is for that you know what daryl daryl don't talk about ndas just like in
Dave Chappelle that skit yeah we need signatures yeah we need signatures we got warrants.
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The other thing was they had a taxi service Nintendo had a taxi service Nintendo had a taxi service yes.
Yeah they all failed though it's alright they're just winging it at this point
yeah well I mean they're trying different things they probably got a lot of
money from the Disney deal,
yeah you know so they're like oh yeah let's try it but then back in 69 they
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entered they wanted to go back to the root so they actually made a research
and development team and they wanted to get back to the roots of entertainment,
so that's what they did their first entertainment once they their first entertainment
item was the ultra hand which is the little extendy thingy it's like a has like
two grips on the end and then has it's like a zigzag thing you extend it and
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it just like it reaches out oh yeah yeah,
yeah nintendo uh first originated that
they sold 1.2 million copies okay and then and then later on the laser gun or
the light gun came out after i told you that yeah well did they change the name
of the zapper or is that different the zapper like for a duck hunt yeah no i
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don't think so okay just that laser gun yeah i would say laser gun,
Here's a good one that you would like. Nintendo partnered with Mitsubishi.
And they made the color game 6 and 15. So, actually, they were...
I mean, that sounds really bad now that I think about it. Why? The color game.
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Oh, no. You're playing with words. Remember, Mitsubishi was known for making
electronics. That makes sense.
So, they were two different items. I didn't really go into detail on what they did,
but they were video game systems which really revitalized
nintendo so there was a little story that
i stumbled across too that i think it was who was it it wasn't sakurio because
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he was the one that ran away but yeah so we'll do a little insight on the people
that were here so fitsujiro yamauchi was like the the original president who
did the cards right then he had sakurio yamauchi Fucci,
who was the son-in-law at the time, he was the president and wanted to expand,
but, you know, basically it was like a lot of, it was too much,
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he ran away, he ran out on his kid son, his kids, his wife, the family, the company.
I believe when Fucci's, God, I can't remember his name again,
Fuzzi Giro, there you go, he was back in power, but then had a stroke.
Bless his heart. Yeah. So his grandchild, I don't think it was Hiroshima. It could have been.
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But he became president in 1949. So he was helping out his grandfather.
He fired all the managers that were under his dad, basically. He said, go.
He said, clean it up. I mean, that's pretty much how the Romans did it.
That's how the Greeks did it. Standard practice. Yeah, standard practice.
Instead of just killing them, he just fired them.
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And then they named, so I said NCL, which is Nintendo Company Limited.
The first name change was actually Nintendo Karuda.
Something like that.
Let's see. Okay, so they came out with a color game, a color game 6 and 15.
And then Yamauchi actually called a good friend of his because their son was.
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Got done with engineering or I don't know if it's software engineering or design,
but it was none other than Shigeru Miyamoto.
Yes. Our guy behind Mario.
Called him after he called his buddy to see if his son wanted to come on in 1977 when he graduated.
And that's when he became head of, well, not head of Nintendo yet,
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but part of the research and development team. Yes. Nice.
They said, here, you're going to have this duty. duty brought nintendo
back on its feet so nice let's see
i just got i just got a wealth of knowledge
right now so then another son-in-law utakawa married one of his daughters he
was in help with the research and development development team too as well so
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they wanted to go ahead and expand nintendo at this point so we sent utakawa
to canada canadia to set up,
operation okay and then they eventually set up key operation in new york was
where the whole thing was only starting in one city and seeing how that how
it went yeah that makes sense,
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so do you want you all want to know how mario was developed actually how mario
got the name mario yes and how he might be insane he's not was it was it not
the landlord it was the landlord his His name is Mario Sagali.
Came in, stopped production. They
were late on rent. Came in and stopped production just to yell at Urakawa.
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Out of kawa no yeah just just stop the
whole line in there and say i'm making a whole bunch of
cabinets he's like no no that's it no one's making nothing until i
get my money yeah i want my money he was just a real estate guy he didn't care
what was in there as long as he got paid yeah so he was mad so mario looked
like the landlord no no that's where he got the name oh yeah he got the name
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yeah some italian guy some come on you sure oh yeah it was italian Who's the
Italian guy? Sagali? Come on now.
Hey, I'm not disputing that. He may look like him. I don't know.
Oh, no. He definitely looked like an Italian guy. All right.
Cool. Pull up the picture. I'll pull up the picture for you.
So, yeah, we had that. So the first arcade cabinet that actually came out was
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Radar Scope, and it was terrible. Horrible. Terrible.
And so that was the first endeavor in New York, mind you. That was the first
endeavor in New York. They actually moved Nintendo to Seattle to be closer to Japan.
And Arakawa was like, yeah, I can't do this. He can't. As far as moving over there?
No, as far as like running this company or doing what it is.
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I don't know. I mean, I'd be discouraged, too. I've made like so many odd cabinets and no one liked it.
It was my it was most of it was my idea, along with other people.
So what did he do? What did he do? So this is when Yamauchi said, no, fuck you.
You're going to stay over there. Good. And I'm going to give you $50 million,
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and you're going to go ahead, and you're going to push the hell out of this product that we got.
And this is when Donkey Kong first came over to the States. Facts.
60K units were sold over $100 million cash.
Cash money. So he had to pay back that 50.
So where were we at? 81?
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This was 81, yes, or somewhere around there. And then, so Donkey Kong made the scene.
Bon Jovi made the scene, yes. but MCA Universal.
People who published donkey kong nice okay
it was like yeah you have 48 hours to hand
over all your assets because you are you are in
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copyright infringement copyright infringement with who
mca universal for what for
using donkey for using for using donkey kong because
it was infringing on king kong so my
man my man i got i had i had to put his name down howard lincoln put his name
not down i had you know what howard lincoln shout outs to you because if this
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didn't happen nintendo wouldn't be here today okay so howard lincoln met with
sid sid shine uh sheen heart sheenberg.
Scheinberg scheinberg yeah sid scheinberg who is the president of mca universal
and and what do What do you tell Scheinberg?
What do you tell Scheinberg? Well, this was the attorney they were talking to first.
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And he said, we're not handing anything over.
No, we're not. We're not doing this.
And you know what? I want to know if you have the rights. I want proof that
you have the rights because I'm not buying the damn Brooklyn Bridge is what he said.
So he wasn't taking the shakedown lightly. No, he wasn't taking the shakedown
lightly at all. Oh, so a couple of weeks later, they go over to Sheinberg's
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place in California. I think it was.
They go to the MCA Universal headquarters. They sit in the conference room.
And so Sheinberg, funny enough, Sheinberg thinks that they were going to go
ahead and just concede defeat.
They were going to concede defeat.
And then Howard, he was like, oh, well, I'm so glad that you guys come to your senses.
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Is how it was like oh hell no i just came to tell you straight to your fucking face.
That we're not doing anything and we're not settling on anything until we get
proof we looked at this from top to bottom gave them the stolen cold number one finger huh yeah,
and that's the bottom line because howard lincoln said so
that's a hard no yeah and you want
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to know something mca universal did not have any
proof that they owned king kong no way really i
feel you like you're patronizing me so hold
on i would never so they made the king kong movie then what
they not have rights themselves no they didn't because you want to know
something else mca was in was in a in a predicament in a copyright infringement
(24:58):
as well with i can't remember who it was uh and they proved that dog that king
kong was actually a public entity that he wasn't owned by anybody so mca got
off they didn't they didn't get punished for it but then they went after Yes, yes.
Because they saw the vision. Yeah. So you know what, MCA? Y'all can kiss toes. I don't care.
I don't care. I'm glad Howard looked at you right in the face and said, No, we're not here.
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And said, you know what? This is going to be slow, and it's going to be painful.
It's not going to be quick, and you're not going to get any Vaseline from this. Burn.
Amen to that that's awesome so then yamaguchi was oh adekawa was like hey you
should be vice vice president of nintendo and yes he was boom yeah he left the
(25:44):
law firm and everything lincoln did this howard lincoln yeah put his foot down
to lincoln is he alive i don't know.
I don't know he could be there was a guy by the name of john kirby who also
i i don't know what his role was in this, but Nintendo gave him 30, 30 K and for no reason.
Yeah. No, not for no reason. There was a reason.
(26:06):
There's no reason. There's probably, you probably, Oh, he probably was the firm,
the firm leader that, or the guy that owned the firm that Howard Lincoln worked at. Oh, maybe. Okay.
That's the only thing I can, I can think of the game 30 K and they gave him
a yacht, a yacht. Yeah. Yeah.
Gave him a yacht in the eighties. In the eighties. Yeah. No,
not a yacht, but a sailboat.
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All right. we'll go to sailboat so how are we leaking sorry to
interrupt go ahead alive he is 84 years
old he's 84 yeah 84 and he
is the former ceo of the seattle mariners as well oh wow man get out of here
but i feel i'm being patronized again no i'm just blown away with this knowledge
(26:48):
so he went from nintendo to the owners part owner of the mariners yeah wow because
remember nintendo was It was based in Seattle.
I can't talk. Of America, it was based in Seattle.
That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. So shout out to Lincoln. So yeah, shout out.
Yeah, once they got, and like I said, after that, they did the AVS system,
(27:13):
which was the first model of the Famicom.
They did the little pop-up stuff, pop-up shops, 90-day risk-free.
And that year, they had 100,000 units sold, or not sold, but shipped over to
America and sold half of it, so 50K.
And yeah, that's... I like hot cakes.
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Yeah that's a pretty just for the start of video games in their company that
was a lot of a lot of shit they had to go through out of cow i had tats off
to him because i would probably just off myself off a cliff or something like
that after going through all the v i wouldn't have,
well you're a strong man no he gave me 50 mil i gotta do something i said before
(27:55):
the 50 mil before the 50 mil when everyone said my radar scope sucked i'm like
oh man Yeah, that does hurt. That stinks.
So, stepping away, or going back a little, marketing here.
So, a way that Nintendo would sell their product, you know, they switched up
their terms of, I guess, what we call a console. They called it a control deck.
(28:20):
Cartridges were not called video games. They were called game packs.
So, that's where those come from here. Did you know they had batteries?
The game packs? no the the you're talking
about the cartridges right or game packs yeah yeah they have
batteries they actually have a life cycle oh well
i kind of learned that with super nintendo because i
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guess the game would what not work or the the save data would be erased no it
wouldn't work so even blowing on them you know how you like blowing no that
never actually there was a detriment to it yeah to be honest oh come on it worked
every time yes exactly it always worked It always worked.
I think there's a disclaimer on there saying don't do that. Yeah,
(29:03):
there is. There is actually.
Don't blow or put any liquid on the chip, please. But we're pouring alcohol in there. So, yeah.
Is it going to work? So help me. Rubbing alcohol.
So Nintendo did, or at least for the US, you know how we like bundles over here. Yes.
So for the NES, you had your deluxe bundle. You had the basic set,
(29:27):
action set, then a power set.
Thanos not included. All right. You guys didn't like that joke? All right. Fine.
It was a beautiful joke. No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't.
The deluxe set, which went for $479.99 that we mentioned earlier.
(29:48):
It included ROB, but also included the NES Zapper, two controllers, two game packs.
We already mentioned ROB worked with Euromite and Duck Hunt.
And then in 87, they created another bundle. I guess you can call it the Control Deck Bundle.
Which went for $89.99. $89, Jesus.
(30:10):
That's the one I got, that $89. $89. Yes, that's the one.
And if you calculate it for today's market, 2024, it comes out to $262.76.
That sounds about right. And it came with no games, but it just did come with two controllers.
But then later on down the line, they did offer a bundle with Super Mario Brothers.
(30:32):
I think that's the one. For $99.99.
With the duck hunt. But the controllers thing, I only got one. I didn't get two. So,
Because I had to share with my sister. That was my disclosure.
It was my birthday present.
And then you only bought one controller? Mind you, the Neo Geo was still $600, people.
The Neo Geo was still $600. Now, mind you, the Neo Geo was a far superior system
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than the Famicom or Nintendo.
Yeah, but only the rich of the rich could afford that. No, that's not true.
We can get it by any means. Yeah, by any means. I hear you.
And then in 88, the action set was released for a market price of $109.99,
which in today's money is $321.15.
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So you got your control deck, two controllers, the zapper, and a dual gamepad.
Two games. I feel like I got robbed. Well, I mean, you might have. Marketing.
Well, hey, you know what? Let's get into this real quick about Atari that I
was mentioning earlier.
These whores. Let me tell you, first off, first and foremost.
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Speak your mind. I will. I will. You know what?
I'll say it with your chest. I'll say it with my chest.
Are you ready for this? Yes. Atari almost ruined Nintendo.
Almost ruined them. He's been waiting all day to say this. Yes,
I have, because I had to give Howard Light, I mean Howard Lincoln. Howard Lincoln.
Put some respect on the name. Yeah, I will. He's 84. He owns the Mariners.
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Like, yeah, I'll put respect on it.
The man's got money. but here's the thing Atari and Nintendo we're gonna make
make something happen all right and they were like oh yeah we'll collab this
time the Atari was like we'll collab we'll do this we'll do that and from an
attorney from a previous attorney from Atari what do you say they were not going.
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To buy any of the famicoms why did they
want their own because they wanted to study what they had
in their system they wanted their own so yeah
they wanted to figure out what was going on why they were so successful or going
to be successful all right into atari and here's the thing here's the thing
before all that came about i can't remember what ces it was i think it was like
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84 wasn't 85 I think it was 84, one of the earlier CESs.
But ColecoVision had Donkey Kong on their new console, and that ruined everything.
Shut the game down. That ruined all talks with Atari.
That ruined the relationship with Coleco. But it was for good reason.
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I'm glad Coleco did that.
I'm so glad Coleco did that. Me too. too because atari
was just gonna wheel and deal and just take
nintendo for what they're worth so atari your
bitch asses were the ones that crashed the market in 1983 getting these poor
sub par games and no one's buying them thanks atari thank you atari thank you for crashing it R.I.P.
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To Atari. Dirt bags.
Scum of the earth. I wouldn't go that far. Oh, okay. I thought we were going that far. No, not yet.
We're getting there, though.
So, Daryl, since you're the guest, what memories do you have of the Nintendo
Entertainment Center? I have great memories.
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I was mad at the Mario game where you, you know, once you defeat the dragon,
that was it. It was nothing else.
The dragon? Yeah, you got to keep playing the game and stuff like that, man.
My favorite memory was Duck Hunt. Duck Hunt? Yeah, I used to get mad.
I'm still stuck on the dragon. What dragon are we talking about?
Talking about Bowser? Yeah. Oh, wow. He's a tortoise, man.
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Yeah, but, like, it didn't continue. It was like eight worlds.
Well, which one are you talking about? The first one. That was like eight worlds.
I know, but I wanted more.
They can only do so much with a Nintendo. That's true. I wanted more.
I mean, I understand. I get it. I wanted more. I get you. Yeah.
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I got more with Duck Hunt. That's where I shine.
I don't think I ever beat that game. I think I played the first few rounds. With Duck Hunt? Yeah.
And wasn't that game partnered with, it wasn't partnered,
but then you had like the disc to do it too like you
had the ducks and then you had the disc right oh yeah i
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don't remember yeah excuse me i don't remember the disc yeah was
it afterwards yeah i think of like an in-between level yeah
so you can shoot the duck one level then the next one shoot the
disc i hated the disc well they're
hard to understand yeah i think at the time you could
just point the gun anywhere like it right and
it was like i mean it's early technology you had to be up on the screen to shoot
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something like i don't know it's probably why i can't see no so duck hunt's
your favorite yeah okay great memories mine was mario 2 mario 2.
Still chasing that girl no i mean there's no
chasing in that one that was i said this in
the last podcast but i don't know if you've played mario 2 did you play mario i
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didn't play mario 2 mario 2 was actually a whole totally different
game how was it different uh well it was
like he was having a dream i just yeah it was
like he was having a dream basically and it was a whole different like
realm all the rest of good stuff and it was a different game entirely in
japan oh that's why you like it well i
mean it's just a different twist okay but all right
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once it brought over to the states they didn't think that
i guess i guess you would call that an rpg at
the time maybe but they didn't
think it was going to be accepted so they re-skinned
it with mario characters as the main characters
that was the first game you could use that was
the first time you could use princess and toad oh that
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is right you're right you're right you can pick things
up or pick up your veggies yeah yeah eat your
veggies kids i'm sorry eat your veggies i'll take that back i think you're right
two is the best one yeah two was it was it was obscure it was it was interesting
for sure it's out of the box i don't know i didn't really like two i think probably
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because it was different not the norm you always want to go against the zelda
zelda was also my My favorite.
I haven't played, I didn't play Link's Adventures of Zelda 2. I didn't play that one.
But the first one, I remember I was about four or five when I actually beat
that game at that time. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Took it up. I never, well, I played it, but maybe like five minutes.
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I never owned it. I'm like Eric. I wasn't really a big Zelda thing.
Oh, man. I don't like you two already.
No, no, you're a big Zelda guy too. I became a fan for Link of the Past.
That's probably more what i remember first before or that was probably when
i was introduced to zelda then going back and playing the older ones like what
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is this this is not cool graphics,
it's not the best no but yeah zelda what was the other one that i played a lot,
growing up all right i'm not wing commander wing commander was super nintendo,
how far can i fly away from my base yeah and then lose and then run out of fuel
never come back it's like yeah well this ain't happening god i can't remember
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that third game i always played i know 10-yard fight was one but it wasn't like
my super favorite but i believe,
was madden on nintendo no no don't don't play me no madden was not on nintendo
wasn't on super nintendo yeah first madden was 92 i appreciate yes 92 guys 93
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yeah yeah okay super nintendo,
God, I can't remember my other game I liked.
Those are the only ones that I knew about, Zelda.
Super Mario Brothers, yeah. That's all I did. Duck Hunt. That's all I knew.
There was one game. It was really obscure. It was like you could,
you'd like dig, but I don't remember the name of it.
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I don't know. It was kind of like a dark game, but I don't know.
It might have been for Super Nintendo too. Gotcha.
I can't remember, but there was another game that I did play a lot.
So the game, I remember it was like a track and field game. and it came with
the well the game pad yeah that was a good one that was that one was always
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fun you like that one I did,
bust out the game pad never heard of running and play yeah you would like do
the hurdles and like you really have to jump up or jump from the pad and it'll
the character would jump yeah yeah I remember that or the long jump mm-hmm,
I wasn't blessed to have that game I'm sorry opening up another beer boys and
girls yeah that's what I'm talking about gosh so you can either stand run in
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place or you can use your hands to activate the buttons is that how you became
a stellar athlete that's it right there nintendo helped me out.
Yeah he was a high school hurdler people just so you know was
it the 200 or the 100 we're both i did wanton high
hurdles do you did high hurdles yeah yeah
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it was a hurdle then did they
call it you never done anything like that
when i played basketball he was hiding that
talent then we're moving along yeah don't be
don't be don't be downplaying it this man was a hurdler he
was only hurdle in the family i did not get that gene i
just ran for a year you got it for a year yeah
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i wanted to try for lies lies she's talking
about and the second game was like this monster truck
game monster truck yeah oh was it.
The racing one it had a little bit of a racing
album oh it's called bigfoot that's what
it was bigfoot that sounds familiar yeah i guess
it sounds familiar i don't think
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i played it though but it does sound familiar if you
check it out you too you probably have yeah i
think with all the stuff being said if obviously life
and its infinite wisdom didn't get these things in
order we wouldn't have nintendo systems today we wouldn't have
a switch we wouldn't have the wii we'd have the wii u we wouldn't have whatever
the hell else that came out with no we would not have any of them yeah like
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if those playing cards wasn't even an idea i don't think we would have had it
no so what what uh hidden info you got for us there i don't have no no good info.
All right i don't all right you heard
it you heard it best from the from the mouth of the dude it
was it was a long time it was a long time ago so i
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don't have any hidden oh i got a story what's that so you you met re right no
and he's our younger brother i don't think so no i haven't this was in timricks
so re was there correct yeah i didn't know was Was that when he went up to Jacksonville?
I believe so, yeah. Or not 07, where were we at?
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2010? 2010? December?
Yeah, Reeves should have been still there by then. Yeah, he was.
I can remember that, yeah. That's when we went to, whatchamacallit, to the apartment.
Yeah. So yeah, 09, 10. Yeah, so we had just found the Nintendo in the garage, right?
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Speaking of, we're just talking about Nintendo. We just found the Nintendo in
the garage, and I'm excited. We found all the games.
No way. Yes, yes. So they had this hidden in the garage?
Not at Simric, not at Simric, not at Simric, not at Simric. This was before
you came about. Okay, okay.
We were in Merritt Island at the time. He's telling his story. My bad. Go ahead.
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Thank you, kind sir. You're welcome. welcome so it's
all about him i don't want to get it no uh so
we we
have this thing we have this system and i'm like oh man
we got all the games we got both controllers we got the gun we found everything
nice we would have still had it today uh-oh well hey re not has got his hands
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on it i remember coming we had it for all of two weeks not even a week a week
and maybe a couple days after finding it, I come home and I'm like, yes,
I'm going to go ahead and play some Nintendo and have a great time. And what happened?
I feel like you're patronizing me again. I'm not. I'm just asking a question.
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It was filled with lotion. What?
Every orifice you could think of on that system was filled with lotion.
I think I would have kept this a little bit quiet on this one.
No, no. I'm not going to. No, no. I'm not going to.
Lotion. You know what? Now you're taking this one too far.
This was a three-year-old boy putting lotion on a system. Hey,
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you did not put an age on it. You said lotion everywhere.
Okay. Well, there's lotion everywhere. On every orifice of every game.
Oh, now it makes sense. Okay. Everything. The controllers.
He just didn't know. He was like, oh. He didn't know what he was doing.
Gotcha, gotcha. As much as I wanted to throw him through a brick wall.
But, man, we would have still had that today. We would have still had that today
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had he not wanted to go on adventures with lotion.
This goes here. This goes there. Oh, my God.
Okay. Even on the insides, I mean, he got a little small hand,
so he's like all up in the cartridge bay. It's everywhere.
It's all over the windows. You couldn't save it? No. There was no saving that.
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There was no saving that.
There was no saving that. I was hurt. I cried.
Sounds like something Eric would do. I would never.
I bet you wouldn't. I bet you wouldn't. No. Think about it.
You bet you would? No, I think my Nintendo stopped working, and I just threw it away.
I don't know where. I know we kept it in, you know, when we kept moving and
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moving and moving, but I don't remember even firing it up again.
Just got put in a box and said, gone. Goodbye. Yeah. See you later.
But, you know, if we would have had that now, do you know how much it would be worth?
Do we know? Well, Sean, do you know the value of a Nintendo Open or Seal?
Open. Well, not still, because you know everybody cried them things over.
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I got that for you right now.
Let's pull this off the shelf. I meant to give it to you on your 10th birthday,
but we forgot. I know you can go to GameStop and trade them in, though. Yeah, you can.
Unfortunately, I wouldn't. No comment. No comment. You sound pretty upset about
that lotion situation. I am.
But I also am an employee at GameStop, too, so. Nice. I have to...
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Tread lightly in what I say, unless you go by at the paywall and listen.
Conflict of interest. No, no, it's not conflict of interest. It's business.
Yes, business. All right, so an NES loose, which would be the system.
I don't know. It could be just the system. It could be a system,
a controller, a system without cords, a system with cords.
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You're looking at $77.55.
$77, yep. And mind you, in the 80s, you could buy.
New one for like $70. $70. And then if you're looking at complete in box with
everything box intact, manuals, controllers, or whatever it is,
and this is for the two controller system, this would be $117.
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I might as well keep it. I thought it was worth more than that. Oh, it gets better.
But wait, there's more. The action set, this is for the PAL version of Nintendo's system.
The action set, which comes with two controllers looks like mario and duck hunt
and the gun you're looking at 173 96 loose,
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complete in box 275 it's almost like getting your money back yeah it is basically
yeah you're getting your money back yeah you got the super set which comes with
it looks like four control with four controllers let me see this yeah there
was a set out there it came with like four Four controllers.
Four controllers. I don't know what game that is.
(47:05):
And, yeah, a controller port. What game is that? Oh, is that the one with,
like, the wireless port? Yeah.
That's mighty rare. Yeah, I like that. No, no, it's not wireless.
There's a wire that goes from there to that. Okay.
But, yeah, you're looking at loose $180.
Complete in box, you're looking at $275. Yeah. Wow. Sealed.
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Sealed is $885 Yeah, that's a whole different ballgame Graded New Almost $1,000,
That's what I'm talking about Just because someone takes the time to grade it Jeez,
That's what I'm talking about I guess Let's see Hand it down from generation
to generation So I went back to the
first one The NES This is with the two controllers New Sealed is $1,030,
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Okay That's a little return Graded new is $1,133.
Can y'all cash that out? Or would it be a stock credit? Not at GameStop,
no. I was about to say. We do that on cards.
So anything that you got cards that's graded, I think the highest we've paid at my store was $600.
$600. Dang. For one card.
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One card. Employee does not have the safe or the code. I do. Oh, you do? Mm-hmm.
It's under my discretion if I want to give it to you or not.
Just kidding, I would. I mean, it's graded. It's in a box or whatever it is.
You know, I got to check to make sure if it's all accurate.
Because, like, the seal and the way the box looks and the way that the...
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No water damage boxes, please.
Not so much the water damage, but there's iced out areas, I guess.
And if it rounds out, it's a fake. If it's pretty squared off, it's real.
Real okay so from the beginning of nintendo we're talking about the nes to now have the graphics,
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changed have they improved have they better with each gaming console yeah with
yeah yeah i would say so what do you think i think mario is still the same to
me well that's funny that you say that it's funny that you say that did you
know that all marios that are side scrolling make more money than the 3D ones. No way.
I feel like I'm being patronized once again. I didn't know the answer. I'm sorry.
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I can see that. Because Mario 64, I could care less playing.
Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
Pump the brakes here, sir. He told you he woke up with violence. He did. He did.
You didn't like Mario 64? No. What? I just wasn't feeling it.
I even, when I picked up the, was it the collection for the Switch?
(49:54):
Still couldn't get you still got it right you know how much
that's rolling for right now the game yeah how
much i have it too i should have bought i thought
about it too i should i was gonna buy three of them oh
i was gonna be mine the other two were gonna be sealed yeah didn't think
about it but right now if you tell
him a number he's gonna sell it to you right now he's not gonna sell it
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to me he's gonna keep it that's what he's gonna do it's in the drawer right there
see it's in the drawer you're about to get rid of it right
now you got the box and and everything right yeah you're like
75 that's not bad 75 it
was more high enough not high
enough it'll probably get it'll probably i'll never
get rid of it yeah because there'll be that one day oh that one day that you
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want to play it yeah so i just picked up the nes championship game you know
i'm talking about yeah so does that have like i've seen the name but does have
like a bunch of collection of games yeah so it's nintendo world championship
there's a bunch of like games that
they speed ran on a tv show i can't
remember what it was but there was like sections of the
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game that they would speed run oh okay yeah so it's actually pretty cool you
there's actually a leaderboard that you can like each week it updates to see
who you can who you're going against oh yeah i'm not opening that bad voice
so i don't know i mean i might i'm gonna hang onto it for a while.
So I'm just, I'm looking, oh my God, look at this.
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So the Nintendo World Championship, just the base cartridge.
Going for $10,000. I'm sorry, what? And what do you have? I have the Switch version.
So you said the original? So it just came out like a couple weeks ago. This is the original.
Wow. $10,000? Yeah, $10,000. And the original?
Everyone check your grandparents' garage. I am in the wrong business.
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And the Nintendo World Championship Gold Edition. So it's the gold cartridge.
Almost $19,000. Wow. I remember the gold one. $18,900. That was a big one.
Big one. Mm-mm-mm. $18,900. That's what it goes for.
You got that, Eric? No. I know you do. I'm about to go to my grandparents' house.
Like, where that box at? I know you are. Did Grandma play games?
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So, in the back room, I don't know if she played games, but it was more probably
for the foster kids that came through.
But she did have a Nintendo in there. That game's gone.
So, yeah. Oh, you know what? I might open it. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to rip the Band-Aid off.
That game's gone, because, I mean, it's... Yeah, foster kids?
Come on, man. Yeah. it's it's worth the same amount i bought well less than
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what it's like 40 more than what i bought it for as we're worth so i don't know
i might open it and try it i wouldn't do that,
all right i won't do it it's got value to it don't do
it i'll just buy it buy another another you sure
you don't want to get rid of yours i'm sure yeah i'm
sure i'll keep it because it came with mario mario
mario sunshine mario galaxy mario galaxy
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i think i was interested in playing mario sunshine that
was a good one a lot of people like that one but a
lot of people like mario sunshine i heard yeah leverage i
was he insane then probably yeah we'll
have to look yeah i gotta hear this story i know you have to you really have
to down because you've been like hitting that like mario's antisocial what does
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that mean antisocial disorder yeah he fought for the girl man i don't know if
he loved her but he fought for her oh man you just gotta listen to it there's
There's so much that goes into it, man.
There's so much. And we even came up with more stuff as we did the podcast. Yes, we did.
As you went down that rabbit hole. As we went down the rabbit hole,
we came up with more situations and ideas than we thought starting.
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Did you talk about Luigi?
No. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we touched on him. Yeah, y'all touched on him.
But I never understood his role. What was his role? The younger brother.
Scared of what? He's scared of his brother.
No, he's not. Yes, he is. No, he's not. Yes, he is. He idolizes his brother.
He thinks his brother is one of the best humans there is, even though he's not.
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But he is afraid of Mario imploding because he's already on the path.
I'm going to research this. Nope, you got to hear it. You just got to hear the
podcast. You just got to hear it.
Because Luigi was never scared. Why do you say that? I don't know.
He seemed a little lonely to me.
Lonely, huh? Yeah. Hmm. I mean, Luigi is more, he's a, he's a,
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I would say he's timid. I don't think he's scared more or less than anything.
Yeah. But he never had to check that he was chasing. He had to check. He did. Mm-hmm. Daisy.
Okay. All right. Now I'm researching. Daisy. Daisy was this girl.
Remember, you remember the original Mario movie?
Yeah. And Luigi was yelling who? Daisy. Yeah.
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Daisy. Oh, Daisy. Help me.
Yeah he needs help i'll research mario look you just gotta wait for the podcast coming
i'll wait for it but or or you know what we can we can
we can actually let let you you want to let him hear it no you're
good you're good well you want to let him hear it because i'm i i really want
someone to read it i want to research it first because i think i research it
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i do because i want to see what y'all talking about all right i got a video
for you no actually you know what i'm gonna let you research it and then once
it comes out i'm gonna be like Like, yeah,
I'm going to be like, yeah, y'all are right.
All right. Well, thank you guys for listening. I know this kind of went on a little long.
Appreciate you listeners out there. Too long. Too long. Never too long.
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Yeah. Eric is going to sell it for 75. Thank you, Kajan. Yeah,
you're welcome. I'll keep the game. Prestige worldwide.
Wide. Wide. And we're out. Wide.
Let me tell you how creative Spongebob is. Spongebob is grown.
Spongebob is... Spongebob situations. Yeah. Spongebob is grown.
Yes. A man lives on his own, goes to work. Work, yes. Has one best friend, Squidward's half. Yes.
Right? Yeah. Has got to deal with the fucking shitty boss.
(00:21):
Yes. Mr. Crash. Yes. This is grown man stuff. Right.
With great writing. The first three seasons, obviously. but any other thing
after that is terrible. Falls off. Falls off hard.
Hard. Cam. Cam what? Spongebob.
(00:42):
Spongebob. Lives in a pineapple under the sea.
You're lying, man. Spongebob square pants. No. Jinx, you owe me two sodas. We did it twice.
All right. Two sodas it is. Yes.
Or we're just got two beers that's fine too that'll work you
know what was grown as well bugs bunny was grown was it
(01:04):
yeah i don't know a lot of violence bugs bunny
was also racist yes it was yes it had a lot
in it like wow so what
i found out was you know how like in those like the older cartoons when they
started doing the yelling or any of the characters did the yelling it was always
mel blank that did it they just always changed the pitch in mel bank i think
(01:26):
was the character was the creator yeah yeah yes he was the one that always did the yelling scenes,
interesting things you learn yeah because if you there was
a video i saw said male blank doing all yelling scenes and cart in looney tunes
i'm like what so i listened to it i'm like oh my god it is him but this they
just changed the pitch on each one of them yeah some of them is just him some
(01:47):
of them is just him it's like oh that's interesting i'll go find that video well i think it's in my
history i'll send it to you okay oh yeah
yeah i'm ready you sure yeah i'm ready
we got the intro now didn't it didn't mean this is all gonna be fun after colony
159 welcome to a great episode of the game past like a podcast i'm eric proceeding
(02:13):
to doc kishan and we have our special guest Yes,
Daryl here with us. Hi, times two.
And today we are going to talk about the Nintendo Entertainment System,
known as the NES, for the kids who like to talk in anagrams. Yes, I believe so.
(02:35):
That's a new word to me. So most
people may know the 8-bit system by the Famicom or the family computer.
The system was released in Japan on July 15th of 1983, here in the States,
we know it as the Nintendo Entertainment System.
Say that one more time for the folks in the back.
(02:58):
Window entertainment system prestige worldwide wide wide wide.
Prestige worldwide putting in the man hours it was released october 18th 1985.
I guess when they released in 85 it was only shipped to new york and los angeles
(03:21):
for obvious reasons because it was new york you know big market and they want
to see hey let's sell there so the first year was new york what they did was if i remember correctly,
they had they went to all retail stores i
think it was like between five and six hundred retail stores and
what was it they they did
(03:43):
a risk free so they set up they did all their setup free they
did all themselves and all this good stuff and they had athletes come
and present the system them so the consumers that
was in the store yeah so the the uh the athletes
and the execs would be there presenting the system there was one douchebag it
was one there was one retail store i can't remember i can't remember the mall
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it was but would not allow nintendo to they would set up they would be able
to set up but they would not allow them to turn on the games because they
wanted to track the wrong crowd how would you track
the wrong crowd racism i had one
actually this is in the states or japan this was in new york okay new york this
(04:27):
was in new york oh okay yeah well i wouldn't say racism i'd say prejudice would
be a more yeah accurate word for that and the nes got a worldwide release on september 27th of 1986.
That was also risk, I'm sorry to interrupt, but that was also risk-free.
So they didn't make any money after three months. Really? Mm-hmm.
(04:48):
Did not know that. Yeah. They wanted to get their stuff out there.
So it's like, look, after 90 days, if you don't make whatever it is,
then just give us our cut and we'll leave. Right. That's pretty much it. Okay.
Now they're like, we're staying forever. We're making a year contract. Yeah. They did.
The 80s was a heck of a decade. Yes. Especially for video gaming. Yeah.
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Hiroshi Naomichi. He was Nintendo's president at the time in 86.
And he stated that he wanted arcade games to be placed on cartridges that could be played at home.
Masaya Yuki. You, Maria. Okay.
He was the person that designed the NES. He also had a hand in,
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you know, everyone's favorite game, Duck Hunt.
Who doesn't love Duck Hunt? That's a classic right there. And he
also had a hand in making the super nintendo so speaking
of duck hunt so uh nintendo actually had
something that was very similar to they had laser ranges so
they came out with something called the light gun and it
was just a just a laser laser gun and it
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gained so much popularity that they made ranges for it yeah but then there was
an economic crisis in japan and they actually had to shut them down they said
game over know who they want no puns flip flip flip flip flip flip flip game over.
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Oh my goodness so the NES had a retail price of $179 and in today's world or
market it's equivalent to $522 dollars and 65 cents. Mm-hmm.
The NES sold 61.91 million and million consoles worldwide.
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It was discontinued in the States on August 14th of 1995 and in Japan on September 25th, 2003. Why?
It was time just to move on. Oh, it was time to move on? Yeah.
2003? What was... I missed that part. I was reading. What was discontinued? The NES.
Nintendo Entertainment System. They stopped making it in 2003? In Japan.
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And japan oh wow that was a long run yeah
that's a long run yeah in the states they stopped in 95
but yeah 95 well that didn't
that the wow that was the sony playstation was out
by then sega saturn so what the
sega genesis was was it sega
32x or it has 32x right yeah what
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else was out there the 3do that was
a lot of game systems out at that time and then
super nintendo obviously superseded did it yeah that's true
it was just japan so 2003 that's
a long time long time the best-selling game was
super mario brothers 40 million units sold i mean one thing that contributed
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to that was it was a packing game so yes true legend in the game pac-man he
was he was part of the 1983 crash by by the way. Was he? Mm-hmm. Mm-mm.
The best standalone game was Super Mario Bros.
2, which sold 10 million units. Ha ha, and that's my favorite one. What?
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And we went over this on the last episode when we talked about Mario,
so if you wanted to check that out, you definitely should because- Don't be
like Wart. Make sure you eat your veggies.
Yes, eat your veggies, and just understand that Mario has antisocial disorder. Amen. Continue.
Or maybe you. Who knows? You never know. In the U.S., the NES launched with 17 games.
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This included Ten Yard Fight.
Great game, by the way. Is it good? Yeah. I saw it was like a,
it's a football game. Yeah. Whenever you hike, the ball goes.
Yeah, I remember that game. We had baseball.
Clue Clue Clan. Or, sorry. Clue Clue Clan.
Okay. Clue Clue Clan. We're ending the podcast right now.
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Wow we're ending it clue clue clan wow duck hunt excite bike golf euromite hogan's
alley ice climber kung fu pinball stack up super mario bros tennis wild gummin and wrecking crew,
this one became that starred mario and just went and just hammering things could
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it have led to him becoming insane,
probably by the time his girl kept getting kidnapped I would go insane too man you just gotta wait,
he does know he's getting he's on it he's on it but you gotta listen to the
rest of it man it's when you listen to it you're gonna be like oh my god what are these two thinking.
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So Nintendo officially licensed 1384 games 672 were released in Japan 186 released
in the states and 19 of them were released in the pal countries mm-hmm,
Yeah, PAL games, they don't run well. I think people with the Sony PlayStation
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Mini can figure that out.
So, speaking of games, there's some tidbits that I found out.
First off, where's my notes here?
Scrolling through my notes. So, actually, before the Famicom came out,
they had something called the AVS, which was the first model.
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It was a top loader you would be able to load the
games in but they come to find out that you can copy cartridges
and make games for them really so
how could they copy the games i thought
i didn't get too much into it i only asked i remember digging
through that nintendo put in a chip
i guess that would not allow them to play
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copy games yeah it'll it'll it'll so it was a chip it was on a timer it was
like one to two years okay or or they couldn't put any of the famicom games
and onto other systems for like two years that's what it was okay yeah i think
that's what it was but yeah there was a chip on there didn't allow you to do
that but they did the top 40 games,
for that and excite bite was once that's what got me on this subject but other
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than that yeah you were able to copy games and play it on the abs that was and
they presented it in i think it was It's an 85 at CES. Nobody bought it.
So that was the beginning of 85. And then later on is when later on that year
is when Nintendo came out.
Came out. And that's when you were you were entering the cartridge into the system.
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So they had to they actually created Rob for this, too, because they had all
kinds of equipment. They had like keyboards, mouses, stuff like that.
And they people thought that it was just too much for kids.
Lies. Nice. But Rob, Rob and it's an infinite wisdom.
A lot of people liked Rob. Robotic operating buddy.
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Rob was actually a really good compliment to the NES.
A lot of people were into that. So they started buying Rob. They sold like.
I didn't know it was that popular. Yeah, it was really popular.
I think it only worked on two games. I guess Euromite required it.
And the other one was, what was it? Duck Hunt.
Duck Hunt? Yeah. No, Rob probably shot it down for you.
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So a couple other tidbits with nintendo which
i thought were interesting so i was just i was just uh talking with daryl earlier
about this so they had hanafuda cards so the original person original president
for nintendo nintendo was actually a car a trading card company the hanafuda
cards or flower cards were sold in the kanto region and also whatever region that hanaf,
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yamaguchi was from i can't remember but yeah and then the yakuza actually used
them for gambling didn't they i did read that nintendo was fearful of the yakuza
yeah grabbing all the consoles who,
is not fearful of the yakuza those people i don't
want to mess with right so i guess that's when they switched up like
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their release schedules what happened so in
1907 so all this started in 1899 mind
you so nintendo's been out for a while just not on the
game side yet that's where my mind is blown
yeah yeah when you go down and realize all these
companies were one thing and then i guess they diversified something
else like holy cow so they got they were in 1907 they were the first manufacturer
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of trading card companies in the west and then by 1929 they were the largest
trading card company amazing on cards yeah just on cards that's crazy i guess
those are form of Entertainment,
what did you say? 1927? 1929.
1907 was when they were the first manufacturer in the West. So TV wasn't around then?
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No, not at all. You sure? TV in 1907?
Maybe. Radio was. So entertainment was radio trading.
Okay. So then let's see, you had a couple family changes in the presidency. Yeah.
Nintendo actually got renamed at one point to Nintendo Company Limited,
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and they struck a deal with Disney to make playing cards for them.
Wow. Yeah, they tried other things. They failed at rice bowl packaging.
So just things you buy from the grocery
store, I guess, or maybe surprise packages. Oh, here's a rice bowl.
They tried to do a Love Hotel. A Love Hotel. Yeah. Oh, yeah,
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they're into that thing.
Well, I mean, yeah, they're kind of like a pretty open, but perverse.
Country in a sense and not in a bad way right not a
bad way i guess it's just normal for them yeah social
but unless like you're one of those
weirdos on the train groping people that you should be
you should be shot and stabbed again i'm extreme but you
you know whatever some punishment for doing
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something wrong right right and then love hotel not
the love hotel that should be consensual on both ends that's not
the oh i'm taking your love hotel so you know what this means no no
that's not how that works uh that works so everyone consent is
important consent is important females consent yes communicate
is this okay it's not oh is that is
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this not okay please communicate anyway signatures
that's what we yeah well no that's for nda that's a totally different story
that is for that you know what daryl daryl don't talk about ndas just like in
Dave Chappelle that skit yeah we need signatures yeah we need signatures we got warrants.
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The other thing was they had a taxi service Nintendo had a taxi service Nintendo had a taxi service yes.
Yeah they all failed though it's alright they're just winging it at this point
yeah well I mean they're trying different things they probably got a lot of
money from the Disney deal,
yeah you know so they're like oh yeah let's try it but then back in 69 they
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entered they wanted to go back to the root so they actually made a research
and development team and they wanted to get back to the roots of entertainment,
so that's what they did their first entertainment once they their first entertainment
item was the ultra hand which is the little extendy thingy it's like a has like
two grips on the end and then has it's like a zigzag thing you extend it and
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it just like it reaches out oh yeah yeah,
yeah nintendo uh first originated that
they sold 1.2 million copies okay and then and then later on the laser gun or
the light gun came out after i told you that yeah well did they change the name
of the zapper or is that different the zapper like for a duck hunt yeah no i
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don't think so okay just that laser gun yeah i would say laser gun,
Here's a good one that you would like. Nintendo partnered with Mitsubishi.
And they made the color game 6 and 15. So, actually, they were...
I mean, that sounds really bad now that I think about it. Why? The color game.
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Oh, no. You're playing with words. Remember, Mitsubishi was known for making
electronics. That makes sense.
So, they were two different items. I didn't really go into detail on what they did,
but they were video game systems which really revitalized
nintendo so there was a little story that
i stumbled across too that i think it was who was it it wasn't sakurio because
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he was the one that ran away but yeah so we'll do a little insight on the people
that were here so fitsujiro yamauchi was like the the original president who
did the cards right then he had sakurio yamauchi Fucci,
who was the son-in-law at the time, he was the president and wanted to expand,
but, you know, basically it was like a lot of, it was too much,
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he ran away, he ran out on his kid son, his kids, his wife, the family, the company.
I believe when Fucci's, God, I can't remember his name again,
Fuzzi Giro, there you go, he was back in power, but then had a stroke.
Bless his heart. Yeah. So his grandchild, I don't think it was Hiroshima. It could have been.
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But he became president in 1949. So he was helping out his grandfather.
He fired all the managers that were under his dad, basically. He said, go.
He said, clean it up. I mean, that's pretty much how the Romans did it.
That's how the Greeks did it. Standard practice. Yeah, standard practice.
Instead of just killing them, he just fired them.
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And then they named, so I said NCL, which is Nintendo Company Limited.
The first name change was actually Nintendo Karuda.
Something like that.
Let's see. Okay, so they came out with a color game, a color game 6 and 15.
And then Yamauchi actually called a good friend of his because their son was.
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Got done with engineering or I don't know if it's software engineering or design,
but it was none other than Shigeru Miyamoto.
Yes. Our guy behind Mario.
Called him after he called his buddy to see if his son wanted to come on in 1977 when he graduated.
And that's when he became head of, well, not head of Nintendo yet,
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but part of the research and development team. Yes. Nice.
They said, here, you're going to have this duty. duty brought nintendo
back on its feet so nice let's see
i just got i just got a wealth of knowledge
right now so then another son-in-law utakawa married one of his daughters he
was in help with the research and development development team too as well so
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they wanted to go ahead and expand nintendo at this point so we sent utakawa
to canada canadia to set up,
operation okay and then they eventually set up key operation in new york was
where the whole thing was only starting in one city and seeing how that how
it went yeah that makes sense,
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so do you want you all want to know how mario was developed actually how mario
got the name mario yes and how he might be insane he's not was it was it not
the landlord it was the landlord his His name is Mario Sagali.
Came in, stopped production. They
were late on rent. Came in and stopped production just to yell at Urakawa.
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Out of kawa no yeah just just stop the
whole line in there and say i'm making a whole bunch of
cabinets he's like no no that's it no one's making nothing until i
get my money yeah i want my money he was just a real estate guy he didn't care
what was in there as long as he got paid yeah so he was mad so mario looked
like the landlord no no that's where he got the name oh yeah he got the name
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yeah some italian guy some come on you sure oh yeah it was italian Who's the
Italian guy? Sagali? Come on now.
Hey, I'm not disputing that. He may look like him. I don't know.
Oh, no. He definitely looked like an Italian guy. All right.
Cool. Pull up the picture. I'll pull up the picture for you.
So, yeah, we had that. So the first arcade cabinet that actually came out was
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Radar Scope, and it was terrible. Horrible. Terrible.
And so that was the first endeavor in New York, mind you. That was the first
endeavor in New York. They actually moved Nintendo to Seattle to be closer to Japan.
And Arakawa was like, yeah, I can't do this. He can't. As far as moving over there?
No, as far as like running this company or doing what it is.
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I don't know. I mean, I'd be discouraged, too. I've made like so many odd cabinets and no one liked it.
It was my it was most of it was my idea, along with other people.
So what did he do? What did he do? So this is when Yamauchi said, no, fuck you.
You're going to stay over there. Good. And I'm going to give you $50 million,
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and you're going to go ahead, and you're going to push the hell out of this product that we got.
And this is when Donkey Kong first came over to the States. Facts.
60K units were sold over $100 million cash.
Cash money. So he had to pay back that 50.
So where were we at? 81?
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This was 81, yes, or somewhere around there. And then, so Donkey Kong made the scene.
Bon Jovi made the scene, yes. but MCA Universal.
People who published donkey kong nice okay
it was like yeah you have 48 hours to hand
over all your assets because you are you are in
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copyright infringement copyright infringement with who
mca universal for what for
using donkey for using for using donkey kong because
it was infringing on king kong so my
man my man i got i had i had to put his name down howard lincoln put his name
not down i had you know what howard lincoln shout outs to you because if this
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didn't happen nintendo wouldn't be here today okay so howard lincoln met with
sid sid shine uh sheen heart sheenberg.
Scheinberg scheinberg yeah sid scheinberg who is the president of mca universal
and and what do What do you tell Scheinberg?
What do you tell Scheinberg? Well, this was the attorney they were talking to first.
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And he said, we're not handing anything over.
No, we're not. We're not doing this.
And you know what? I want to know if you have the rights. I want proof that
you have the rights because I'm not buying the damn Brooklyn Bridge is what he said.
So he wasn't taking the shakedown lightly. No, he wasn't taking the shakedown
lightly at all. Oh, so a couple of weeks later, they go over to Sheinberg's
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place in California. I think it was.
They go to the MCA Universal headquarters. They sit in the conference room.
And so Sheinberg, funny enough, Sheinberg thinks that they were going to go
ahead and just concede defeat.
They were going to concede defeat.
And then Howard, he was like, oh, well, I'm so glad that you guys come to your senses.
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Is how it was like oh hell no i just came to tell you straight to your fucking face.
That we're not doing anything and we're not settling on anything until we get
proof we looked at this from top to bottom gave them the stolen cold number one finger huh yeah,
and that's the bottom line because howard lincoln said so
that's a hard no yeah and you want
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to know something mca universal did not have any
proof that they owned king kong no way really i
feel you like you're patronizing me so hold
on i would never so they made the king kong movie then what
they not have rights themselves no they didn't because you want to know
something else mca was in was in a in a predicament in a copyright infringement
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as well with i can't remember who it was uh and they proved that dog that king
kong was actually a public entity that he wasn't owned by anybody so mca got
off they didn't they didn't get punished for it but then they went after Yes, yes.
Because they saw the vision. Yeah. So you know what, MCA? Y'all can kiss toes. I don't care.
I don't care. I'm glad Howard looked at you right in the face and said, No, we're not here.
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And said, you know what? This is going to be slow, and it's going to be painful.
It's not going to be quick, and you're not going to get any Vaseline from this. Burn.
Amen to that that's awesome so then yamaguchi was oh adekawa was like hey you
should be vice vice president of nintendo and yes he was boom yeah he left the
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law firm and everything lincoln did this howard lincoln yeah put his foot down
to lincoln is he alive i don't know.
I don't know he could be there was a guy by the name of john kirby who also
i i don't know what his role was in this, but Nintendo gave him 30, 30 K and for no reason.
Yeah. No, not for no reason. There was a reason.
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There's no reason. There's probably, you probably, Oh, he probably was the firm,
the firm leader that, or the guy that owned the firm that Howard Lincoln worked at. Oh, maybe. Okay.
That's the only thing I can, I can think of the game 30 K and they gave him
a yacht, a yacht. Yeah. Yeah.
Gave him a yacht in the eighties. In the eighties. Yeah. No,
not a yacht, but a sailboat.
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All right. we'll go to sailboat so how are we leaking sorry to
interrupt go ahead alive he is 84 years
old he's 84 yeah 84 and he
is the former ceo of the seattle mariners as well oh wow man get out of here
but i feel i'm being patronized again no i'm just blown away with this knowledge
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so he went from nintendo to the owners part owner of the mariners yeah wow because
remember nintendo was It was based in Seattle.
I can't talk. Of America, it was based in Seattle.
That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. So shout out to Lincoln. So yeah, shout out.
Yeah, once they got, and like I said, after that, they did the AVS system,
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which was the first model of the Famicom.
They did the little pop-up stuff, pop-up shops, 90-day risk-free.
And that year, they had 100,000 units sold, or not sold, but shipped over to
America and sold half of it, so 50K.
And yeah, that's... I like hot cakes.
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Yeah that's a pretty just for the start of video games in their company that
was a lot of a lot of shit they had to go through out of cow i had tats off
to him because i would probably just off myself off a cliff or something like
that after going through all the v i wouldn't have,
well you're a strong man no he gave me 50 mil i gotta do something i said before
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the 50 mil before the 50 mil when everyone said my radar scope sucked i'm like
oh man Yeah, that does hurt. That stinks.
So, stepping away, or going back a little, marketing here.
So, a way that Nintendo would sell their product, you know, they switched up
their terms of, I guess, what we call a console. They called it a control deck.
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Cartridges were not called video games. They were called game packs.
So, that's where those come from here. Did you know they had batteries?
The game packs? no the the you're talking
about the cartridges right or game packs yeah yeah they have
batteries they actually have a life cycle oh well
i kind of learned that with super nintendo because i
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guess the game would what not work or the the save data would be erased no it
wouldn't work so even blowing on them you know how you like blowing no that
never actually there was a detriment to it yeah to be honest oh come on it worked
every time yes exactly it always worked It always worked.
I think there's a disclaimer on there saying don't do that. Yeah,
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there is. There is actually.
Don't blow or put any liquid on the chip, please. But we're pouring alcohol in there. So, yeah.
Is it going to work? So help me. Rubbing alcohol.
So Nintendo did, or at least for the US, you know how we like bundles over here. Yes.
So for the NES, you had your deluxe bundle. You had the basic set,
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action set, then a power set.
Thanos not included. All right. You guys didn't like that joke? All right. Fine.
It was a beautiful joke. No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't.
The deluxe set, which went for $479.99 that we mentioned earlier.
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It included ROB, but also included the NES Zapper, two controllers, two game packs.
We already mentioned ROB worked with Euromite and Duck Hunt.
And then in 87, they created another bundle. I guess you can call it the Control Deck Bundle.
Which went for $89.99. $89, Jesus.
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That's the one I got, that $89. $89. Yes, that's the one.
And if you calculate it for today's market, 2024, it comes out to $262.76.
That sounds about right. And it came with no games, but it just did come with two controllers.
But then later on down the line, they did offer a bundle with Super Mario Brothers.
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I think that's the one. For $99.99.
With the duck hunt. But the controllers thing, I only got one. I didn't get two. So,
Because I had to share with my sister. That was my disclosure.
It was my birthday present.
And then you only bought one controller? Mind you, the Neo Geo was still $600, people.
The Neo Geo was still $600. Now, mind you, the Neo Geo was a far superior system
(30:58):
than the Famicom or Nintendo.
Yeah, but only the rich of the rich could afford that. No, that's not true.
We can get it by any means. Yeah, by any means. I hear you.
And then in 88, the action set was released for a market price of $109.99,
which in today's money is $321.15.
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So you got your control deck, two controllers, the zapper, and a dual gamepad.
Two games. I feel like I got robbed. Well, I mean, you might have. Marketing.
Well, hey, you know what? Let's get into this real quick about Atari that I
was mentioning earlier.
These whores. Let me tell you, first off, first and foremost.
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Speak your mind. I will. I will. You know what?
I'll say it with your chest. I'll say it with my chest.
Are you ready for this? Yes. Atari almost ruined Nintendo.
Almost ruined them. He's been waiting all day to say this. Yes,
I have, because I had to give Howard Light, I mean Howard Lincoln. Howard Lincoln.
Put some respect on the name. Yeah, I will. He's 84. He owns the Mariners.
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Like, yeah, I'll put respect on it.
The man's got money. but here's the thing Atari and Nintendo we're gonna make
make something happen all right and they were like oh yeah we'll collab this
time the Atari was like we'll collab we'll do this we'll do that and from an
attorney from a previous attorney from Atari what do you say they were not going.
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To buy any of the famicoms why did they
want their own because they wanted to study what they had
in their system they wanted their own so yeah
they wanted to figure out what was going on why they were so successful or going
to be successful all right into atari and here's the thing here's the thing
before all that came about i can't remember what ces it was i think it was like
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84 wasn't 85 I think it was 84, one of the earlier CESs.
But ColecoVision had Donkey Kong on their new console, and that ruined everything.
Shut the game down. That ruined all talks with Atari.
That ruined the relationship with Coleco. But it was for good reason.
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I'm glad Coleco did that.
I'm so glad Coleco did that. Me too. too because atari
was just gonna wheel and deal and just take
nintendo for what they're worth so atari your
bitch asses were the ones that crashed the market in 1983 getting these poor
sub par games and no one's buying them thanks atari thank you atari thank you for crashing it R.I.P.
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To Atari. Dirt bags.
Scum of the earth. I wouldn't go that far. Oh, okay. I thought we were going that far. No, not yet.
We're getting there, though.
So, Daryl, since you're the guest, what memories do you have of the Nintendo
Entertainment Center? I have great memories.
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I was mad at the Mario game where you, you know, once you defeat the dragon,
that was it. It was nothing else.
The dragon? Yeah, you got to keep playing the game and stuff like that, man.
My favorite memory was Duck Hunt. Duck Hunt? Yeah, I used to get mad.
I'm still stuck on the dragon. What dragon are we talking about?
Talking about Bowser? Yeah. Oh, wow. He's a tortoise, man.
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Yeah, but, like, it didn't continue. It was like eight worlds.
Well, which one are you talking about? The first one. That was like eight worlds.
I know, but I wanted more.
They can only do so much with a Nintendo. That's true. I wanted more.
I mean, I understand. I get it. I wanted more. I get you. Yeah.
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I got more with Duck Hunt. That's where I shine.
I don't think I ever beat that game. I think I played the first few rounds. With Duck Hunt? Yeah.
And wasn't that game partnered with, it wasn't partnered,
but then you had like the disc to do it too like you
had the ducks and then you had the disc right oh yeah i
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don't remember yeah excuse me i don't remember the disc yeah was
it afterwards yeah i think of like an in-between level yeah
so you can shoot the duck one level then the next one shoot the
disc i hated the disc well they're
hard to understand yeah i think at the time you could
just point the gun anywhere like it right and
it was like i mean it's early technology you had to be up on the screen to shoot
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something like i don't know it's probably why i can't see no so duck hunt's
your favorite yeah okay great memories mine was mario 2 mario 2.
Still chasing that girl no i mean there's no
chasing in that one that was i said this in
the last podcast but i don't know if you've played mario 2 did you play mario i
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didn't play mario 2 mario 2 was actually a whole totally different
game how was it different uh well it was
like he was having a dream i just yeah it was
like he was having a dream basically and it was a whole different like
realm all the rest of good stuff and it was a different game entirely in
japan oh that's why you like it well i
mean it's just a different twist okay but all right
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once it brought over to the states they didn't think that
i guess i guess you would call that an rpg at
the time maybe but they didn't
think it was going to be accepted so they re-skinned
it with mario characters as the main characters
that was the first game you could use that was
the first time you could use princess and toad oh that
(36:38):
is right you're right you're right you can pick things
up or pick up your veggies yeah yeah eat your
veggies kids i'm sorry eat your veggies i'll take that back i think you're right
two is the best one yeah two was it was it was obscure it was it was interesting
for sure it's out of the box i don't know i didn't really like two i think probably
(36:58):
because it was different not the norm you always want to go against the zelda
zelda was also my My favorite.
I haven't played, I didn't play Link's Adventures of Zelda 2. I didn't play that one.
But the first one, I remember I was about four or five when I actually beat
that game at that time. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Took it up. I never, well, I played it, but maybe like five minutes.
(37:19):
I never owned it. I'm like Eric. I wasn't really a big Zelda thing.
Oh, man. I don't like you two already.
No, no, you're a big Zelda guy too. I became a fan for Link of the Past.
That's probably more what i remember first before or that was probably when
i was introduced to zelda then going back and playing the older ones like what
(37:39):
is this this is not cool graphics,
it's not the best no but yeah zelda what was the other one that i played a lot,
growing up all right i'm not wing commander wing commander was super nintendo,
how far can i fly away from my base yeah and then lose and then run out of fuel
never come back it's like yeah well this ain't happening god i can't remember
(38:05):
that third game i always played i know 10-yard fight was one but it wasn't like
my super favorite but i believe,
was madden on nintendo no no don't don't play me no madden was not on nintendo
wasn't on super nintendo yeah first madden was 92 i appreciate yes 92 guys 93
(38:26):
yeah yeah okay super nintendo,
God, I can't remember my other game I liked.
Those are the only ones that I knew about, Zelda.
Super Mario Brothers, yeah. That's all I did. Duck Hunt. That's all I knew.
There was one game. It was really obscure. It was like you could,
you'd like dig, but I don't remember the name of it.
(38:49):
I don't know. It was kind of like a dark game, but I don't know.
It might have been for Super Nintendo too. Gotcha.
I can't remember, but there was another game that I did play a lot.
So the game, I remember it was like a track and field game. and it came with
the well the game pad yeah that was a good one that was that one was always
(39:11):
fun you like that one I did,
bust out the game pad never heard of running and play yeah you would like do
the hurdles and like you really have to jump up or jump from the pad and it'll
the character would jump yeah yeah I remember that or the long jump mm-hmm,
I wasn't blessed to have that game I'm sorry opening up another beer boys and
girls yeah that's what I'm talking about gosh so you can either stand run in
(39:36):
place or you can use your hands to activate the buttons is that how you became
a stellar athlete that's it right there nintendo helped me out.
Yeah he was a high school hurdler people just so you know was
it the 200 or the 100 we're both i did wanton high
hurdles do you did high hurdles yeah yeah
(39:57):
it was a hurdle then did they
call it you never done anything like that
when i played basketball he was hiding that
talent then we're moving along yeah don't be
don't be don't be downplaying it this man was a hurdler he
was only hurdle in the family i did not get that gene i
just ran for a year you got it for a year yeah
(40:20):
i wanted to try for lies lies she's talking
about and the second game was like this monster truck
game monster truck yeah oh was it.
The racing one it had a little bit of a racing
album oh it's called bigfoot that's what
it was bigfoot that sounds familiar yeah i guess
it sounds familiar i don't think
(40:41):
i played it though but it does sound familiar if you
check it out you too you probably have yeah i
think with all the stuff being said if obviously life
and its infinite wisdom didn't get these things in
order we wouldn't have nintendo systems today we wouldn't have
a switch we wouldn't have the wii we'd have the wii u we wouldn't have whatever
the hell else that came out with no we would not have any of them yeah like
(41:06):
if those playing cards wasn't even an idea i don't think we would have had it
no so what what uh hidden info you got for us there i don't have no no good info.
All right i don't all right you heard
it you heard it best from the from the mouth of the dude it
was it was a long time it was a long time ago so i
(41:26):
don't have any hidden oh i got a story what's that so you you met re right no
and he's our younger brother i don't think so no i haven't this was in timricks
so re was there correct yeah i didn't know was Was that when he went up to Jacksonville?
I believe so, yeah. Or not 07, where were we at?
(41:50):
2010? 2010? December?
Yeah, Reeves should have been still there by then. Yeah, he was.
I can remember that, yeah. That's when we went to, whatchamacallit, to the apartment.
Yeah. So yeah, 09, 10. Yeah, so we had just found the Nintendo in the garage, right?
(42:11):
Speaking of, we're just talking about Nintendo. We just found the Nintendo in
the garage, and I'm excited. We found all the games.
No way. Yes, yes. So they had this hidden in the garage?
Not at Simric, not at Simric, not at Simric, not at Simric. This was before
you came about. Okay, okay.
We were in Merritt Island at the time. He's telling his story. My bad. Go ahead.
(42:37):
Thank you, kind sir. You're welcome. welcome so it's
all about him i don't want to get it no uh so
we we
have this thing we have this system and i'm like oh man
we got all the games we got both controllers we got the gun we found everything
nice we would have still had it today uh-oh well hey re not has got his hands
(43:00):
on it i remember coming we had it for all of two weeks not even a week a week
and maybe a couple days after finding it, I come home and I'm like, yes,
I'm going to go ahead and play some Nintendo and have a great time. And what happened?
I feel like you're patronizing me again. I'm not. I'm just asking a question.
(43:21):
It was filled with lotion. What?
Every orifice you could think of on that system was filled with lotion.
I think I would have kept this a little bit quiet on this one.
No, no. I'm not going to. No, no. I'm not going to.
Lotion. You know what? Now you're taking this one too far.
This was a three-year-old boy putting lotion on a system. Hey,
(43:44):
you did not put an age on it. You said lotion everywhere.
Okay. Well, there's lotion everywhere. On every orifice of every game.
Oh, now it makes sense. Okay. Everything. The controllers.
He just didn't know. He was like, oh. He didn't know what he was doing.
Gotcha, gotcha. As much as I wanted to throw him through a brick wall.
But, man, we would have still had that today. We would have still had that today
(44:05):
had he not wanted to go on adventures with lotion.
This goes here. This goes there. Oh, my God.
Okay. Even on the insides, I mean, he got a little small hand,
so he's like all up in the cartridge bay. It's everywhere.
It's all over the windows. You couldn't save it? No. There was no saving that.
(44:29):
There was no saving that.
There was no saving that. I was hurt. I cried.
Sounds like something Eric would do. I would never.
I bet you wouldn't. I bet you wouldn't. No. Think about it.
You bet you would? No, I think my Nintendo stopped working, and I just threw it away.
I don't know where. I know we kept it in, you know, when we kept moving and
(44:52):
moving and moving, but I don't remember even firing it up again.
Just got put in a box and said, gone. Goodbye. Yeah. See you later.
But, you know, if we would have had that now, do you know how much it would be worth?
Do we know? Well, Sean, do you know the value of a Nintendo Open or Seal?
Open. Well, not still, because you know everybody cried them things over.
(45:14):
I got that for you right now.
Let's pull this off the shelf. I meant to give it to you on your 10th birthday,
but we forgot. I know you can go to GameStop and trade them in, though. Yeah, you can.
Unfortunately, I wouldn't. No comment. No comment. You sound pretty upset about
that lotion situation. I am.
But I also am an employee at GameStop, too, so. Nice. I have to...
(45:37):
Tread lightly in what I say, unless you go by at the paywall and listen.
Conflict of interest. No, no, it's not conflict of interest. It's business.
Yes, business. All right, so an NES loose, which would be the system.
I don't know. It could be just the system. It could be a system,
a controller, a system without cords, a system with cords.
(46:00):
You're looking at $77.55.
$77, yep. And mind you, in the 80s, you could buy.
New one for like $70. $70. And then if you're looking at complete in box with
everything box intact, manuals, controllers, or whatever it is,
and this is for the two controller system, this would be $117.
(46:23):
I might as well keep it. I thought it was worth more than that. Oh, it gets better.
But wait, there's more. The action set, this is for the PAL version of Nintendo's system.
The action set, which comes with two controllers looks like mario and duck hunt
and the gun you're looking at 173 96 loose,
(46:45):
complete in box 275 it's almost like getting your money back yeah it is basically
yeah you're getting your money back yeah you got the super set which comes with
it looks like four control with four controllers let me see this yeah there
was a set out there it came with like four Four controllers.
Four controllers. I don't know what game that is.
(47:05):
And, yeah, a controller port. What game is that? Oh, is that the one with,
like, the wireless port? Yeah.
That's mighty rare. Yeah, I like that. No, no, it's not wireless.
There's a wire that goes from there to that. Okay.
But, yeah, you're looking at loose $180.
Complete in box, you're looking at $275. Yeah. Wow. Sealed.
(47:29):
Sealed is $885 Yeah, that's a whole different ballgame Graded New Almost $1,000,
That's what I'm talking about Just because someone takes the time to grade it Jeez,
That's what I'm talking about I guess Let's see Hand it down from generation
to generation So I went back to the
first one The NES This is with the two controllers New Sealed is $1,030,
(47:54):
Okay That's a little return Graded new is $1,133.
Can y'all cash that out? Or would it be a stock credit? Not at GameStop,
no. I was about to say. We do that on cards.
So anything that you got cards that's graded, I think the highest we've paid at my store was $600.
$600. Dang. For one card.
(48:18):
One card. Employee does not have the safe or the code. I do. Oh, you do? Mm-hmm.
It's under my discretion if I want to give it to you or not.
Just kidding, I would. I mean, it's graded. It's in a box or whatever it is.
You know, I got to check to make sure if it's all accurate.
Because, like, the seal and the way the box looks and the way that the...
(48:42):
No water damage boxes, please.
Not so much the water damage, but there's iced out areas, I guess.
And if it rounds out, it's a fake. If it's pretty squared off, it's real.
Real okay so from the beginning of nintendo we're talking about the nes to now have the graphics,
(49:06):
changed have they improved have they better with each gaming console yeah with
yeah yeah i would say so what do you think i think mario is still the same to
me well that's funny that you say that it's funny that you say that did you
know that all marios that are side scrolling make more money than the 3D ones. No way.
I feel like I'm being patronized once again. I didn't know the answer. I'm sorry.
(49:31):
I can see that. Because Mario 64, I could care less playing.
Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
Pump the brakes here, sir. He told you he woke up with violence. He did. He did.
You didn't like Mario 64? No. What? I just wasn't feeling it.
I even, when I picked up the, was it the collection for the Switch?
(49:54):
Still couldn't get you still got it right you know how much
that's rolling for right now the game yeah how
much i have it too i should have bought i thought
about it too i should i was gonna buy three of them oh
i was gonna be mine the other two were gonna be sealed yeah didn't think
about it but right now if you tell
him a number he's gonna sell it to you right now he's not gonna sell it
(50:14):
to me he's gonna keep it that's what he's gonna do it's in the drawer right there
see it's in the drawer you're about to get rid of it right
now you got the box and and everything right yeah you're like
75 that's not bad 75 it
was more high enough not high
enough it'll probably get it'll probably i'll never
get rid of it yeah because there'll be that one day oh that one day that you
(50:35):
want to play it yeah so i just picked up the nes championship game you know
i'm talking about yeah so does that have like i've seen the name but does have
like a bunch of collection of games yeah so it's nintendo world championship
there's a bunch of like games that
they speed ran on a tv show i can't
remember what it was but there was like sections of the
(50:56):
game that they would speed run oh okay yeah so it's actually pretty cool you
there's actually a leaderboard that you can like each week it updates to see
who you can who you're going against oh yeah i'm not opening that bad voice
so i don't know i mean i might i'm gonna hang onto it for a while.
So I'm just, I'm looking, oh my God, look at this.
(51:19):
So the Nintendo World Championship, just the base cartridge.
Going for $10,000. I'm sorry, what? And what do you have? I have the Switch version.
So you said the original? So it just came out like a couple weeks ago. This is the original.
Wow. $10,000? Yeah, $10,000. And the original?
Everyone check your grandparents' garage. I am in the wrong business.
(51:41):
And the Nintendo World Championship Gold Edition. So it's the gold cartridge.
Almost $19,000. Wow. I remember the gold one. $18,900. That was a big one.
Big one. Mm-mm-mm. $18,900. That's what it goes for.
You got that, Eric? No. I know you do. I'm about to go to my grandparents' house.
Like, where that box at? I know you are. Did Grandma play games?
(52:03):
So, in the back room, I don't know if she played games, but it was more probably
for the foster kids that came through.
But she did have a Nintendo in there. That game's gone.
So, yeah. Oh, you know what? I might open it. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to rip the Band-Aid off.
That game's gone, because, I mean, it's... Yeah, foster kids?
Come on, man. Yeah. it's it's worth the same amount i bought well less than
(52:24):
what it's like 40 more than what i bought it for as we're worth so i don't know
i might open it and try it i wouldn't do that,
all right i won't do it it's got value to it don't do
it i'll just buy it buy another another you sure
you don't want to get rid of yours i'm sure yeah i'm
sure i'll keep it because it came with mario mario
mario sunshine mario galaxy mario galaxy
(52:47):
i think i was interested in playing mario sunshine that
was a good one a lot of people like that one but a
lot of people like mario sunshine i heard yeah leverage i
was he insane then probably yeah we'll
have to look yeah i gotta hear this story i know you have to you really have
to down because you've been like hitting that like mario's antisocial what does
(53:09):
that mean antisocial disorder yeah he fought for the girl man i don't know if
he loved her but he fought for her oh man you just gotta listen to it there's
There's so much that goes into it, man.
There's so much. And we even came up with more stuff as we did the podcast. Yes, we did.
As you went down that rabbit hole. As we went down the rabbit hole,
we came up with more situations and ideas than we thought starting.
(53:34):
Did you talk about Luigi?
No. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we touched on him. Yeah, y'all touched on him.
But I never understood his role. What was his role? The younger brother.
Scared of what? He's scared of his brother.
No, he's not. Yes, he is. No, he's not. Yes, he is. He idolizes his brother.
He thinks his brother is one of the best humans there is, even though he's not.
(53:57):
But he is afraid of Mario imploding because he's already on the path.
I'm going to research this. Nope, you got to hear it. You just got to hear the
podcast. You just got to hear it.
Because Luigi was never scared. Why do you say that? I don't know.
He seemed a little lonely to me.
Lonely, huh? Yeah. Hmm. I mean, Luigi is more, he's a, he's a,
(54:20):
I would say he's timid. I don't think he's scared more or less than anything.
Yeah. But he never had to check that he was chasing. He had to check. He did. Mm-hmm. Daisy.
Okay. All right. Now I'm researching. Daisy. Daisy was this girl.
Remember, you remember the original Mario movie?
Yeah. And Luigi was yelling who? Daisy. Yeah.
(54:43):
Daisy. Oh, Daisy. Help me.
Yeah he needs help i'll research mario look you just gotta wait for the podcast coming
i'll wait for it but or or you know what we can we can
we can actually let let you you want to let him hear it no you're
good you're good well you want to let him hear it because i'm i i really want
someone to read it i want to research it first because i think i research it
(55:06):
i do because i want to see what y'all talking about all right i got a video
for you no actually you know what i'm gonna let you research it and then once
it comes out i'm gonna be like Like, yeah,
I'm going to be like, yeah, y'all are right.
All right. Well, thank you guys for listening. I know this kind of went on a little long.
Appreciate you listeners out there. Too long. Too long. Never too long.
(55:29):
Yeah. Eric is going to sell it for 75. Thank you, Kajan. Yeah,
you're welcome. I'll keep the game. Prestige worldwide.
Wide. Wide. And we're out. Wide.
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