September 4, 2024 • 13 mins
Welcome to the Gamma System. In this riveting episode, we dive into the compelling witness testimony of Dr. Carol Rosin, who recounts her experiences and insights from working closely with the renowned scientist Wernher von Braun. Von Braun, a key figure in Operation Paperclip, had access to top-secret projects and foresaw the manipulation of public perception through fear tactics.
Dr. Rosin, the first woman Corporate Manager at Fairchild Industries, shares her journey from being von Braun's spokesperson to becoming a staunch advocate against space-based weapons. She reveals von Braun's predictions about the successive enemies that would be used to justify the militarization of space, from the Russians to terrorists, and eventually, to extraterrestrial threats.
As Dr. Rosin unpacks these scare tactics and their real motives, she urges us to stay vigilant and question the narratives fed to us. This episode is a call to awareness, urging listeners to research, think critically, and resist the manipulation by the military-industrial complex.
Join us as we explore the chilling foresight of von Braun and the ongoing efforts to control public perception through fear, culminating in the ultimate "alien card." Stay informed, stay vigilant.
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(00:00):
Welcome to the Gamma System. I have today a part of Dr. Carol Rawson's witness testimony.
But before we delve into her details, we need to understand that somebody else
is mentioned in her testimony.
Werner Von Braun. Werner Von Braun was the product of Operation Paperclip.
(00:23):
After World War II, the Russians in the United States were in a race to obtain
the Nazi scientist, and Wernher von Braun was one of them, and he was recruited by the United States.
So he had a need to know of top-secret projects when it came to new technologies
being developed for the United States. Dr.
(00:46):
Carol Rawson was the first woman selected as Corporate Manager of Fairchild
Industries and was a spokesperson for Wernher von Braun in the last years of his life.
She founded the Institute for Security and Cooperation in Outer Space in Washington, D.C.
And has testified before Congress on many occasions about space-based weapons.
(01:08):
And she says, I am a space and missile defense consultant and have consulted
to a number of companies, organizations, and governments and departments,
even the intelligence community.
I was a consultant to TRW working on the MX missile and other weapon systems that we didn't need.
When I was a corporate manager for Fairchild Industries in 1974 through 1977,
(01:35):
I met the late Dr. Werner Von Braun.
And at the time, Von Braun was dying of cancer.
The very first day that I met him, he had tubes draining out of his side.
Yet he was tapping on the desk telling me, you will come to Fairchild Industries
and you will be responsible for keeping the weapons out of space.
(01:58):
The way he said it, the intensity in his eyes.
He asked me to be his spokesperson when he was too ill to speak.
And for the next four years until his death in 1997, I did this for him.
What was most interesting to me was the scare tactics strategy he said was being
(02:19):
used to manipulate the decision makers and the public.
That those who used these scare tactics were the real enemy.
Back in 1974, the Russians were the identified enemy.
We were told that they had killer satellites, and they were coming to get us and control us.
(02:42):
When I went to Russia in the early 1970s, I found out that they didn't have
killer satellites, that it was a lie. In fact, the Russian leaders and people wanted peace.
They wanted to cooperate with the United States and with the people of the world.
Von Braun said terrorists will be identified as the next enemy after the Russians,
(03:08):
followed by a third world country, and we will call them crazies.
We now call them nations of concern. CERN.
In 1977, I was at the meeting in Fairchild Industries in a conference room called the War Room.
In attendance were people in the revolving door game.
(03:29):
They worked as consultants, industry people, and or military and intelligence people.
They worked in the industries and they revolved themselves through these doors
and right into government positions and vice versa.
There were a lot of charts on the wall that identify enemies with obscure names
like Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi.
(03:51):
This was in 1977.
This was the next enemy against whom we were going to build these space-based weapons.
There was $25 billion being expended in the space-based weapons systems for
future war in the Gulf so that these people could then sell the next phase of
weapons to the public, and the D.C. decision makers.
(04:15):
Translated, this Gulf War was actually being created just so these people could
dump the old weapons and create a whole new set of weapons.
I stood up in this meeting and said, excuse me.
Why are we talking about these potential enemies against who we are going to
build space-based weapons if, in fact, we know that they are not the enemy at
(04:36):
this time? Nobody answered.
They just went on with the meeting as though I hadn't said anything.
That was it for me. I had to resign from the position. I could do no longer work in the industry.
In 1990, I was sitting in my living room looking at the money that had been
(04:58):
appropriated for space-based weapons research and development program,
and I realized that I had to come down to that number, about $25 billion.
I said to my husband, I am now going to sit and watch CNN television and wait for the war to happen.
My husband told me I had finally gone over the edge.
(05:22):
Friends said, you have really gone too far this time.
This is not going to be a war in the Gulf. Nobody is talking about a war in the Gulf.
I said, there is going to be a war and I'm going to sit here and wait for it
to start. And it happened right on schedule.
As part of the Gulf War, we in the public were told that the United States had
(05:45):
been very successful in shooting down Russian Scud missiles.
We were rationalizing new budgets based on the success.
In fact, we found out later it was all a lie that had been used to appropriate
more money to make more weapons.
Von Braun's next enemy was asteroids.
He kind of chuckled the first time he said it. After asteroids,
(06:08):
it would be what he called the alien E.T. threat.
And that would be the final scare tactic.
Over and over during the four years that I knew him, he would remind me, remember, Raquel?
The last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons
against aliens, and all of it is a lie.
(06:32):
He was too afraid to tell me the details.
I am not sure that I could have absorbed them if he had told me the details.
But there was no question that
that man knew it was and was on the inside because he had a need to know.
I found out later that he had a need to know.
(06:53):
Finally, Von Braun told me was that there is an accelerated effort in place,
that there are people who actually believe that Armageddon should happen.
So we have to have these wars. That is only but a snippet of Carol Rawson's testimony.
(07:15):
And the reason why I gave you this testimony is because nothing is coincidence.
Nothing is by chance. There are efforts being planned in rooms.
There are wars being planned in rooms. so the military-industrial complex and
other industries working hand-in-hand keep making money.
(07:40):
We saw that Wernher von Braun had a need to know. He knew the details.
He didn't want to go into details on what he knew.
But there are schedules of wars being planned out.
Back then, it was the Russians. after the
russians the terrorist qaddafi salam
(08:02):
hussein right and after the terrorist third world countries unstable nations
right after that is going to be the asteroids and after the asteroids the alien
card and when we say the alien card it actually means that.
They're going to pump so much money into misinformation so that the aliens are seen as threats.
(08:30):
So we develop a fear of the ETs.
So we develop a national or even global fear to aliens, therefore,
to justify the spending of weapons in space and advanced weapons systems.
Because if you really think about it, we don't even need these kinds of weapons.
Do we need more weapons? Do we need more weapons?
(08:52):
We don't need what the kinetic weaponry that we have right now.
It's enough to annihilate nations, annihilate continents, annihilate wars.
But we have established as the nation the funds for them to pursue other weapons.
And they are pumping out these enemies so they keep getting more money to fund their weapons systems.
(09:20):
The alien card and now you've seen that
you've seen it in hollywood you see it
every day on the history channel you see
it every day on the alien channel and so forth
and and all these other programs that they always always always talk about aliens
are the enemy we should fear them these alien abductions are constant these
(09:45):
these animal mutilations it's that's the fear card that That they've been playing for a while.
So you fear the ETs. And therefore you give them money.
To develop these weapons. To protect you quote unquote. But no.
The aliens are not the enemy. We are the enemy.
Ourselves. If we. No let me rephrase that. If they knew.
(10:09):
The aliens knew that we were a threat to them. A long time ago.
We would have been annihilated a long time ago. We would have been annihilated
the day we develop. In use. the atomic bomb.
That would have been the day that we would have been a speck,
a burnt rock floating in space.
They don't need to be abducting. There are other testimonies that I have here,
(10:34):
other testimonies of soldiers and high-ranking individuals that are part of these tactics,
these deceiving tactics of them also coming off as aliens and abducting people
who got too close, people who saw what they shouldn't have seen,
people who heard what they've heard.
(10:56):
Therefore, there is a detachment in the Air Force and in the Army that does
these simulated alien abductions to keep scaring the public,
to keep scaring the people, to fear them, them that they are here to mutilate
you to experiment on you to to traumatize you but no,
(11:21):
it's part of the alien card it's part
of the last enemy card because they are running out of enemies if you really
think about it they ran out already of the russians and now they're trying to
push again like oh the russians are are coming back they are trying it's not
gonna work this time the terrorist oh the terrorist they keep coming back and this and this and that.
(11:45):
It's not working so they need more money is these wars they are noticing is
not enough then they want more
money they want more allocation so that's the next card we need to stay.
Vigilant of the tactics that they are being used on us folks i invite you to
(12:06):
stay vigilant student, do your research.
Don't be gullible. Be smart about it. Thanks.
Welcome to the Gamma System. I have today a part of Dr. Carol Rawson's witness testimony.
But before we delve into her details, we need to understand that somebody else
is mentioned in her testimony.
Werner Von Braun. Werner Von Braun was the product of Operation Paperclip.
(00:23):
After World War II, the Russians in the United States were in a race to obtain
the Nazi scientist, and Wernher von Braun was one of them, and he was recruited by the United States.
So he had a need to know of top-secret projects when it came to new technologies
being developed for the United States. Dr.
(00:46):
Carol Rawson was the first woman selected as Corporate Manager of Fairchild
Industries and was a spokesperson for Wernher von Braun in the last years of his life.
She founded the Institute for Security and Cooperation in Outer Space in Washington, D.C.
And has testified before Congress on many occasions about space-based weapons.
(01:08):
And she says, I am a space and missile defense consultant and have consulted
to a number of companies, organizations, and governments and departments,
even the intelligence community.
I was a consultant to TRW working on the MX missile and other weapon systems that we didn't need.
When I was a corporate manager for Fairchild Industries in 1974 through 1977,
(01:35):
I met the late Dr. Werner Von Braun.
And at the time, Von Braun was dying of cancer.
The very first day that I met him, he had tubes draining out of his side.
Yet he was tapping on the desk telling me, you will come to Fairchild Industries
and you will be responsible for keeping the weapons out of space.
(01:58):
The way he said it, the intensity in his eyes.
He asked me to be his spokesperson when he was too ill to speak.
And for the next four years until his death in 1997, I did this for him.
What was most interesting to me was the scare tactics strategy he said was being
(02:19):
used to manipulate the decision makers and the public.
That those who used these scare tactics were the real enemy.
Back in 1974, the Russians were the identified enemy.
We were told that they had killer satellites, and they were coming to get us and control us.
(02:42):
When I went to Russia in the early 1970s, I found out that they didn't have
killer satellites, that it was a lie. In fact, the Russian leaders and people wanted peace.
They wanted to cooperate with the United States and with the people of the world.
Von Braun said terrorists will be identified as the next enemy after the Russians,
(03:08):
followed by a third world country, and we will call them crazies.
We now call them nations of concern. CERN.
In 1977, I was at the meeting in Fairchild Industries in a conference room called the War Room.
In attendance were people in the revolving door game.
(03:29):
They worked as consultants, industry people, and or military and intelligence people.
They worked in the industries and they revolved themselves through these doors
and right into government positions and vice versa.
There were a lot of charts on the wall that identify enemies with obscure names
like Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi.
(03:51):
This was in 1977.
This was the next enemy against whom we were going to build these space-based weapons.
There was $25 billion being expended in the space-based weapons systems for
future war in the Gulf so that these people could then sell the next phase of
weapons to the public, and the D.C. decision makers.
(04:15):
Translated, this Gulf War was actually being created just so these people could
dump the old weapons and create a whole new set of weapons.
I stood up in this meeting and said, excuse me.
Why are we talking about these potential enemies against who we are going to
build space-based weapons if, in fact, we know that they are not the enemy at
(04:36):
this time? Nobody answered.
They just went on with the meeting as though I hadn't said anything.
That was it for me. I had to resign from the position. I could do no longer work in the industry.
In 1990, I was sitting in my living room looking at the money that had been
(04:58):
appropriated for space-based weapons research and development program,
and I realized that I had to come down to that number, about $25 billion.
I said to my husband, I am now going to sit and watch CNN television and wait for the war to happen.
My husband told me I had finally gone over the edge.
(05:22):
Friends said, you have really gone too far this time.
This is not going to be a war in the Gulf. Nobody is talking about a war in the Gulf.
I said, there is going to be a war and I'm going to sit here and wait for it
to start. And it happened right on schedule.
As part of the Gulf War, we in the public were told that the United States had
(05:45):
been very successful in shooting down Russian Scud missiles.
We were rationalizing new budgets based on the success.
In fact, we found out later it was all a lie that had been used to appropriate
more money to make more weapons.
Von Braun's next enemy was asteroids.
He kind of chuckled the first time he said it. After asteroids,
(06:08):
it would be what he called the alien E.T. threat.
And that would be the final scare tactic.
Over and over during the four years that I knew him, he would remind me, remember, Raquel?
The last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons
against aliens, and all of it is a lie.
(06:32):
He was too afraid to tell me the details.
I am not sure that I could have absorbed them if he had told me the details.
But there was no question that
that man knew it was and was on the inside because he had a need to know.
I found out later that he had a need to know.
(06:53):
Finally, Von Braun told me was that there is an accelerated effort in place,
that there are people who actually believe that Armageddon should happen.
So we have to have these wars. That is only but a snippet of Carol Rawson's testimony.
(07:15):
And the reason why I gave you this testimony is because nothing is coincidence.
Nothing is by chance. There are efforts being planned in rooms.
There are wars being planned in rooms. so the military-industrial complex and
other industries working hand-in-hand keep making money.
(07:40):
We saw that Wernher von Braun had a need to know. He knew the details.
He didn't want to go into details on what he knew.
But there are schedules of wars being planned out.
Back then, it was the Russians. after the
russians the terrorist qaddafi salam
(08:02):
hussein right and after the terrorist third world countries unstable nations
right after that is going to be the asteroids and after the asteroids the alien
card and when we say the alien card it actually means that.
They're going to pump so much money into misinformation so that the aliens are seen as threats.
(08:30):
So we develop a fear of the ETs.
So we develop a national or even global fear to aliens, therefore,
to justify the spending of weapons in space and advanced weapons systems.
Because if you really think about it, we don't even need these kinds of weapons.
Do we need more weapons? Do we need more weapons?
(08:52):
We don't need what the kinetic weaponry that we have right now.
It's enough to annihilate nations, annihilate continents, annihilate wars.
But we have established as the nation the funds for them to pursue other weapons.
And they are pumping out these enemies so they keep getting more money to fund their weapons systems.
(09:20):
The alien card and now you've seen that
you've seen it in hollywood you see it
every day on the history channel you see
it every day on the alien channel and so forth
and and all these other programs that they always always always talk about aliens
are the enemy we should fear them these alien abductions are constant these
(09:45):
these animal mutilations it's that's the fear card that That they've been playing for a while.
So you fear the ETs. And therefore you give them money.
To develop these weapons. To protect you quote unquote. But no.
The aliens are not the enemy. We are the enemy.
Ourselves. If we. No let me rephrase that. If they knew.
(10:09):
The aliens knew that we were a threat to them. A long time ago.
We would have been annihilated a long time ago. We would have been annihilated
the day we develop. In use. the atomic bomb.
That would have been the day that we would have been a speck,
a burnt rock floating in space.
They don't need to be abducting. There are other testimonies that I have here,
(10:34):
other testimonies of soldiers and high-ranking individuals that are part of these tactics,
these deceiving tactics of them also coming off as aliens and abducting people
who got too close, people who saw what they shouldn't have seen,
people who heard what they've heard.
(10:56):
Therefore, there is a detachment in the Air Force and in the Army that does
these simulated alien abductions to keep scaring the public,
to keep scaring the people, to fear them, them that they are here to mutilate
you to experiment on you to to traumatize you but no,
(11:21):
it's part of the alien card it's part
of the last enemy card because they are running out of enemies if you really
think about it they ran out already of the russians and now they're trying to
push again like oh the russians are are coming back they are trying it's not
gonna work this time the terrorist oh the terrorist they keep coming back and this and this and that.
(11:45):
It's not working so they need more money is these wars they are noticing is
not enough then they want more
money they want more allocation so that's the next card we need to stay.
Vigilant of the tactics that they are being used on us folks i invite you to
(12:06):
stay vigilant student, do your research.
Don't be gullible. Be smart about it. Thanks.
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