Breaking Barriers: Steven Alvarez's Path to Empowerment and Real Estate Success.

In this thought-provoking episode of GMRT experience, Steven Alvarez shares his personal journey of breakthroughs and challenges. Discover as Steven openly talks about his Hispanic heritage, the unique path he's carved out for himself, and the invaluable life lessons he's garnered along the way.

Captivated by how his move to venture into real estate transformed his life, Steven highlights his dynamic transition from a front office job to a full-time real estate professional. Immersed in the Hispanic community, he shares how this experience has boosted his aspiration to help others create their own path despite the numerous challenges and cultural restrictions.

Steven bravely discusses the dramatic moment when he was fired from his job and how this setback came to be an empowering turning point to pursue his dreams. He also reflects on his first podcasting stint with GMRT, emphasizing the emotional drive that fuels his mission in uplifting the Hispanic community.

Tuning into his spiritual sense, Steven openly shares how his unwavering faith played a significant role in his personal development and career journey. Acknowledge his unique perspective on service as the essence of professional success beyond traditional marketing tactics.

This engaging episode with Steven Alvarez will inspire you to take bold steps, encourage you to hold fast to your dreams, and remind you of the importance of genuine service to others. Listen in for a conversation rich in wisdom and experiences, illustrating the power of resilience, self-awareness, and authenticity in the face of adversity.

Episode Transcript

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Music.

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Yo, yo, what's up guys? Welcome to another episode of the GMRT experience.
It's a beautiful day today, man.
It's, I don't know what, what day is today?
It's a Tuesday. It's a Tuesday. Oh, it's Halloween actually.
Oh, it's Halloween. Yeah.
So when you guys listen to this, I don't know when that will be, but today's Halloween.

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So make sure you got your outfits. Happy Halloween. we going but
i'm excited for this episode guys we're gonna uh there's
gonna be a lot of game a lot of value for for you guys
the young bucks especially one of the
reasons why i'm excited to bring you on bro because you know
you're you're the hispanic community man yeah man i think you're probably my
first hispanic guy i'm hispanic too so but the reason why i wanted to bring

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you is it's because you know you know how it is man like here in the united
states like you know they they the Hispanic people, sometimes we don't think big. Yeah.
And you're one of those guys that in my circle that is Hispanic and you're out
there chasing your dreams.
So just introduce yourself and just tell us who you are, man.
Awesome. Well, name is Steven Alvarez.

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I've been in real estate here in Utah since 2016, full-time in 2018.
So the cool thing is I've been full-time since October 22nd, 2018.
And the reason I remember that is because that's the day I got fired from my
job. What year was that again? 2018. 2018. Yeah, October 22nd, 2018.
And that's just like a day that's always gonna be ingrained in my mind because
the day I got fired and the day I decided to kind of like you said, like chase my dreams.

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You know, it's a scary thing to chase your dreams. Yeah. And I know we've had
multiple conversations about it, but...
I'm super glad that I did because I wouldn't be where I'm at now.
I wouldn't have the connections that I have now.
Obviously, a part of that journey was like connecting with you on this whole
other level. It's always been knowing each other for a long time.
Yeah. I guess people should know that. Yeah, the whole backstory.

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He's probably one of the guys from all the episodes that I brought that I've
known the longest. Yeah. Yeah, I know.
Obviously, I'm a couple years older than Rainey, but Rainey was very close friends with my brother.
So when GMRT was getting started, obviously, like I saw that because I saw my
brother going out to like photo shoots and different things like that.

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And I was like, yo, what's my brother doing, you know?
And then, you know, eventually found out that you had him, you guys were like
working together or whatever, which I wish he would have continued,
you know, doing it. But everybody has their own journey and stuff like that, which is cool.
But I was able to see like the growth of your business and your brand from back then.
And obviously prior to that, obviously, you know, kids and stuff like that.

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That. But being able to see that it motivated me.
And, you know, we had a podcast that we were doing back in 29, no 2020, I think it was.
And I wanted to reach out to you because same thing, right?
There's not, there's obviously a lot of Hispanics doing it, but not young Hispanics
are out there chasing their dreams.
So I, you know, when I was thinking about people that I wanted to invite onto

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the podcast, you know, you were one of the first people that had popped up on the list.
And obviously I think prior to that, besides like maybe like high and stuff,
we never really had a of conversation so like you know
me reaching out to you like i didn't know if you're gonna be like you know who the
hell are you like what the heck you know it's because it's been so many years but you
know you graciously invited us when you're out in valley fair
mall and and i think that was my first podcast ever oh for real yeah i think

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that that it was it was either the first or the second but it was like and we
did it in the back of the store remember so we were sitting in like yeah yeah
the mic in the middle yeah yeah yeah dude that that that was man it feels like
it was for everyone. Yeah, no, it's crazy to think. Yeah, it was 2020.
But yeah, for me, it was like, it was a no brainer to like invite you on there. And I'm glad I did.

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And that kind of started like the whole like relationship, right?
Because I was able to see somebody younger than me out there chasing their dreams.
So like motivated me to like not have any excuses.
Because it's very easy. You know, we were talking about it with my buddy Brian
on the drive over here, that in the Hispanic community, we are very ingrained
to think of the negative things. Yeah.
Like we always think of everything that could go wrong.

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And we live by that. Like, oh, don't trust so-and-so because of this or don't
do that because it's a scam.
Like everything is always like negative, negative, negative,
which obviously affects us in the way that we progress.
So that's been like a big mission of myself.
And obviously the people that I surround myself with is like to really educate
and help people, not just, you know, on the financial side, but more so the

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mindset. mindset because everything starts with your mind.
If you don't change your mind and the way you see things, you're going to be
stuck in the same situation always.
Yeah. So, and that's, that's transferable, right?
You transfer that to your kids and it becomes this generational thing where
then your kids grow weary and scared of doing things and there's no progress, like nothing changes.
So somebody in the family has to be that, that breaker, right? Of change.

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Yeah. And I don't know how, like your journey has been, but.
You know, in my family, I'm the one. Yeah, no effects.
I'm the one. Like, on paper, yeah, my dad is more successful than I am at this moment.
And I'm thankful for everything he's done for me.
However, he still has that Hispanic mindset on certain things, not everything.

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But it's like when you come here to America, and American people,
they live a different way. They live with that abundance mindset.
See the opportunities. opportunities building businesses and
you know and all that stuff so as you
come here as an immigrant and you're not like your dad you know is the one that's

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kind of like building the foundation yeah yeah and then it's up to you to take
it to that next level uh-huh yeah no that's exactly how i feel so like my parents
they moved here in i believe it's 87 to new jersey so my mom mom came here,
my grandpa, you know, sent for her to Guatemala and my dad like followed her.
So he took like a bus from Guatemala and bussed all the way from Guatemala to

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New Jersey to be with my mom.
And that's where like all my siblings and I were born. And like that always
sticks out to me, you know, like you said, like for a family,
a young couple, it's like leave everything they know to come to a country to
give us a better opportunity.
Like I don't, obviously when you're younger, you don't understand it,
right? You're just like, oh, it's normal, normal people do that.

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But when you start really listening to their story, you understand that that's not normal at all.
And it takes a lot of courage and guts to be able to do something like that.
Cause even me, like trying to think of like moving out of state or something
like that, I'd be like, damn, I miss my family. Like, you know,
my friends, like all that stuff, why would I leave?
But seeing like the sacrifices that they made, I don't take what I do lightly
or in, you know, being in this position, right? Like it's a big responsibility.

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And I know that my My parents didn't have, you know, bring me here to just be average, right?
It's, you know, you get caught up in the whole like American dream and things
like that, which for a lot of people, like the American dream is like,
you know, going to school, getting a job, buying your house, getting married.
It's like these like check marks of things that you have to do.
And if you do that stuff, then you're living the American dream.

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But I grew up different, right? Like obviously, you know, you grew up in Utah too.
There's like this huge bubble here about things that you have to do.
And if you don't do them, then you're like shunned or like whatever.
But I was able to see that. And I always knew like to question things.
And, you know, because to me, it didn't make sense how we lived in this part of town.

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And I have friends that did this and live, you know, this different lifestyle
of like boating and being able to go snowboarding and doing all this stuff.
And I was like, you know, why can't we have that? Right.
So I quickly realized like the whole school thing wasn't for me.
You know, like people say math wasn't math. And when you think about how much
school costs, how long it takes you to go to school and how much you're going
to make after you get out of school and how much you're gonna be paying back and stuff like that.

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You know, I went to Weber State State University for like two weeks and I quit.
What year was that? That was 20, I graduated 2007. So that was around that time, 2007.
Yeah, it was, it was the spring or sorry, the fall of 2007. Yeah.
So I had, I got accepted to Weber
State University and I got a couple of scholarships and stuff like that.
And I remember I went and like legit, I felt so out of place.

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I felt like something was off and I shouldn't be there. And I remember I went
two weeks and then I quit it. And I didn't quit going to school.
I just stopped going, but I started just working full time. I had a part-time
job and I decided, yo, I'm just going to go full time.
So I went to my boss. I was like, Hey, like I want to get full-time hours.
They're like, cool. And I just started working.
And at that time, obviously I was 18. So I thought the job I was working,

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I was a warehouse job. So I thought it was the coolest job ever.
I get to go to work in shorts, t-shirt and put my headphones in and just like
work and drive a forklift.
And I thought this is the life, right? And back then, 2007, minimum wage was $7.25.
So I was making $7.25 an hour and thinking I was a boss back then.
Dude, that's crazy because I have a similar story.

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Not like when I started working here in the United States, my first job was
Chuck E. Cheese. I remember, yeah. I was like the rat.
Yeah, you posted pictures about it before. Yeah. And here's the thing.
I think, do you remember this kid named Josh Gordiano?
Yes. I actually, people, a lot of people don't know this, but I actually had a business with him.

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Oh, really? Yeah, I didn't know. Yeah, it was a landscaping business.
Dang, yeah. So, but the kicker with that was like, now, I think about it sometimes
and I was the one pushing it. Yeah, yeah. I was like...
Trying to get the deals like i remember charging like 20
bucks but you you're talking about like you know
having that first job and all of that that's how

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i thought too when when i started working at chucky cheese i
was like dude i can i'm working
here in america yeah this opportunity the opportunity
and you start slowly realizing like
at least i did it was like dude there's more oh
yeah there is more out there and i was
fortunate enough to have like good managers at the

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time I didn't understand why they were so hard on
me yeah but now I'm still good friends with some of
them that's awesome they've seen some of the stuff that I do uh-huh and
dude and having that foundation with people that you know like can kind of lead
you and how to properly work yeah in the work field it was game changer for
me yeah no no it really is because there's not that many people who truly look

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for value in people and and encourage you to go out and chase like the bigger picture, right?
Because a lot of times when you go to work for like a company or just anybody
in general, they want to keep you for them, right?
Because it benefits them. Because you're a hard worker, you're going to get things done.
And they really don't want to see you progress or see other opportunities because it benefits them.
So, and the funny thing is like, that's what ended up getting me fired from my job, right?

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So, when I got fired, I was working at a at a clinic out in Ogden and I was
managing three different clinics.
And obviously during that time, I had gotten my real estate license.
I was just doing it part-time. Like I was, everybody knew I had it. Like it wasn't a secret.
Like everybody knew I had my real estate license, but like I said,
I was just doing it part-time and everybody would always ask me questions.
Like I had like people from upper management, HR, different places like asking

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me, hey, do you know what my house could be worth? Or hey, can you look at this or that?
And of course, like me being who I am, like I am the type of person I will help
out anybody. Like I don't care. So obviously I would go and help him and stuff like that.
So during like that time, there was like this whole transition of upper management,
things like that, so we were getting a new boss.
And they wanted me to fire, you know, a couple of employees that I saw value

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in that I didn't want to fire them.
Because again, like you, you as in a leadership position, your job is to help
uplift people and show them their potential.
Because a lot of times, like you said, they don't know that they have that potential.
But when you see it, you're like, yo, like you have this, like,
I want to help you. You're invested.
So because I refuse to do that, right? They, they didn't say that's the reason I got fired.

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They use the whole fact of me having my
real estate license and using like computers and stuff
like that to like work a second job so basically like
stealing company time was their excuse obviously you got to go to lawyers talk
about it stuff like that and it was like their their easy escape to like get
me out and put somebody else in that was willing to do what is that they wanted
but for me it's like one of those things where like again i look at people and

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i see people for who they are you know like at the end of the day that person
has to you know they got got to pay bills.
They got to do things that, that they have to do. Right.
And it's again, like that's a part of being a leadership in leadership is like
helping people and seeing that potential.
So for me, I didn't feel it was right. So, you know, I had to be like a little
sacrificial goat, which was
cool because it led me to being able to do what it is that I'm doing now.

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And for me, it was like one of those like reflection periods,
because I had to really ask myself, why was I then going into real estate?
Cause it was completely different from healthcare. care.
And, you know, when I sat down and really thought about all the different jobs
I had and things like that, everything came down to every single job I've had
in every position that I've been in.
I was always in that position or I did that certain job because at the end of

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the day, it was helping people.
It was helping them be better, right? Because I worked my way up in the clinic.
It wasn't that I was a clinic director the whole time. I was with that place eight and a half years.
So I started off front desk, helping people, you know, check in,
doing and all that stuff.
Worked my way up to, it was back when like Obamacare was big and like all that stuff.
So I would help people get on health insurance, like Obamacare,

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Medicare, not Medicare, sorry, Medicaid.
So helping these people, again, underserved community who never had insurance
before, who couldn't get certain treatments, who couldn't get certain help,
all of a sudden get access to healthcare.
Like that to me was huge. So like I helped open up that whole department and you know, the team grew.
We had about five people, I think at one point, but it was the satisfaction

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of seeing these people being so grateful for something that I had my whole life.
I always had health insurance. You know, my dad.
You know blessed we were blessed right that he was always able to
provide for us and i never thought how much something so
little would mean so much to somebody else so seeing you
know that like i said everything boiled down to
me anything that i do is always at the end of the day to help people

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because that brings me more joy than anything so good so boy as you're telling
your story like you know you you literally are telling how a lot of you know
our community is all about like they They start a job and they stick there and
they just move up the ladder.
Yep. They're loyal, you know, and you just said that the health insurance thing

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that you, you know, you had it because your dad provided that,
but now you were seeing the other side.
Yep. And that's a lot, a lot of what happens in our community is that,
you know, you know, I mean, this is a good example.
I like white girls. Yeah.
But here's the here's the funny thing every time like when i

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will date one you know little things and i
will tell him yeah that's no normal in my culture yeah yeah and they were like
well what do you mean like it's like it was the smallest thing yeah because
when you're here you live it you're born here you have all the benefits yeah
you take a lot of times you take that for granted yeah a hundred percent it's
just a part of your daily life where you don't even realize it,

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And that white girl example was probably not a good one, but you guys get the
point. You guys get the point. Yeah, just different cultures. That's all it is.
So here, this is going to tie into my next question. So right now you're doing real estate.
I just want to like get to know a little bit about what that is.
Like, cause you do it in a different way. You were telling me off camera,
but with that, I also want you to touch again in the, you're, you're Hispanic.

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How, how, how did you manage that? like how
did you give it that twist like how are you moving in
that market as just being you because i see you
like one of the things that i like about you you're just
you bro like you got your swag you got the jordans like
and you're just out there chasing deals you know a lot of times i've seen like
real stays like they're all like suited up and i'm like bro like yeah like you

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it there's nothing wrong yeah no not at all like you just do it your own way
and it's working out for you you to explain that to us and our listeners here. Yeah.
So that to me is, it's a big part of like the growth, right?
So when I had gotten fired in
2018, I remember I got fired. I went to this buddy's, his job or whatever.

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And I sat in the parking lot and I was just like contemplating,
like, you know, I got bills to pay. I got all this stuff going on. Like, what should I do?
And I remember at that point I was just like, all right, like I got this license.
At the time, I also had my life insurance license.
So I was just like, all right, I got two licenses. What can I do with these?
Like, let me figure it out.
So I remember I started just making phone calls and I started trying to connect

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because remember at the time I was only doing it part-time.
So I had no real real estate connects.
I didn't really know very many people in the world.
So I was like, all right, if I'm going to do this, like I need to start getting
out there and getting people to know who I am.
I was telling like Brian on the drive up here, like prior to that time.
I was was very introverted, like super introverted. I was a very shy person. I still am.

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I just don't show it as much, but I was extremely shy.
Like something like this, I would have never done. I'd be like,
yo, like get somebody else, dude.
But what's it called? I remember just going out and just networking.
So I would go to like different real estate events or whatever.
And I remember like, I would always go dressed up. Didn't matter where I went. I was wearing a suit.
I was wearing a suit the whole time. And everybody started to get to know me

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as like, oh, Steven, the one that dresses nice all the time.
Right. Cause you would go to certain events And you had the ones that,
yeah, they did go dressed up, but the majority of like most realtors, right.
They're usually like in a polo, a button up and like some slacks or khakis or
like whatever, just like super casual or like in golf clothes.
Right. Like a lot of them are super casual. So.
Me knowing that though, I was still going to suit, right? Because you get taught

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like about just, you have to be in a suit to show like you're professional, like all that stuff.
So for me, it was one of those things where I like dressing up,
but I also saw it as like a hindrance to my growth.
And why was it a hindrance? Because I knowingly would always go somewhere dressed
up and I had to ask myself like, why do you do that, right?
And it was like the self-reflection period where like I was doing it because

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I felt like I wasn't good enough like all these other people because of my skin color.
Right? Because I am not, I didn't fit the mold of like what a realtor was,
you know, if I dress normal, because it sucks to say, and I,
this whole racism thing, like I hate all this stuff. Like I know it's out there and stuff.
I've experienced it, but I don't use it as like a thing that limits me to grow

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or chase my dreams or get what I deserve, right?
Because all that stuff is just outside noise.
But you know, we do live in a world that's judgmental. So like,
Like if I was to dress up in polo and just like regular khakis or whatever and
shoes, like I would get looked at differently. I don't get looked at as professional.
So I felt like I had to dress up in order to match the level of all these other

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people who don't, you know, have their skin color look as a threat, right?
And that to me was like one of those things where I was just like,
all right, like either I can choose to keep making myself uncomfortable so other
people feel comfortable or I could could just take back that control and be
like, Hey, like, this is who I am.
Just because I dress this way doesn't mean that I don't have knowledge that

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I can help you just as good as any of these other people, right?
So it was like this taking back control.
And this was like 2019, early 2020, when I was just like, I'm going to stop doing that.
Like I'm going to stop dressing up just to like impress other people or feel
like I need to fit in, right?
Because at the end of the day, we're all humans. At the end of the day,

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like all this stuff, like the careers, like all that stuff, it does not matter.
Because you don't take any of this stuff with you. The only thing that you're
going to take with you is your experiences.
And you're going to leave behind what it is that people felt when you were around,
how you made them feel, how you helped them, right?
That's what you're going to get left behind. All this stuff is just extra, right?
So that's when I decided to just be myself.

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And ever since then, you can probably see through my social media, right, the change.
But I've had so much growth since then because I learned to accept myself for who I am.
And just more than anything, just having faith in God, right?
Right. Because God is going to put in front of you the people that you're meant to help.
And I've really like honed in on my relationship with like God.

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Like that is what's helped me through all of this stuff.
Like I talk about God all the time. Like I always bring him up because like
I don't care who knows. Right.
I think that's like one of the things that a lot of people don't like to talk
about, like to steer away from because they don't want to be judged or whatever. Like I don't care.
You know what I'm saying? Like I don't care because I've gotten here because
of God. Right. All the people I've helped is because of him.

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And if I continue to live that way, I'm going to be blessed.
Because again, you look at people as people and as children of God,
and I'm just here to help an instrument.
So that's why I do and serve the people the way that I do, because I want them
to feel and just feel that they're heard and that they've actually been helped.

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And that's what's been able to help my business.
Like I'm not your typical agent that is on social media saying,
hey, look at me, I'm a realtor.
Send me your house. I'll tell you what your house is worth or do you need a
realtor to help you, whatever. I don't do any of that stuff.
Most of my business luckily has been through word of mouth and that to me speaks
a lot more than me paying $3,000 to have a billboard saying,

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hey, I'm the number one agent or I do this or that, right?
Having that marketing from other people, way better than anything you could ever do.
Dude that's man so there's three
things that i want to go back to first of all like i relate
to with the the clothing because you know
like when i go to like this events and high level masterminds and stuff like

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that dude i'll go like this yeah no i seen it dude i respect it bro i'm like
i respect it yeah i'm like because i'm like dude i this is who i am exactly
this is exactly who i am But you talked about God, dude.
And it's funny because every podcast that I've done.
It's very interesting because when I do podcasts, I prep.

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And every podcast that I do, I never write God, but the topic of God comes in place. Yeah.
Every episode that I've done. And for me this year, like I've given my life
to God. I found God this year.
Yeah. Like, you know, like before I believe, but it's like, you know how it is.
They tell you like you go to church and yeah, you pray, but there's not a connection.

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Yeah, no. I have a relationship with him and I can tell you like the girl that
we experienced this year is because of that.
A hundred percent. Yeah. And so thank you for sharing that because the world
needs to, the world needs to hear that, you know, a lot of people are afraid
to talk about it, but it's something that we need to talk about like that.
What's going on in the world right now, dude, like people need God,

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bro. Oh, a hundred percent, dude.
That's why we're in this issue. It's situation we're in is because everybody's relying on themselves.
Everybody thinks like, Oh, I'm self-made. i did this i did that right and
it usually don't go good for people that
think don't go good dude so going back
here i want to i want to ask you about dream chasers yeah so that's always like

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it's been every time i think about you i'm like i remember dream chaser yeah
like i i want you to you know like tell me a little bit about what that is what
how you guys came out with that meaning and is it still going?
Where's that at right now? Yeah, so Dream Chasers started back in like 2020, like that whole COVID.
The only thing is you just had like time to sit around and stuff like that.

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So me and a couple of friends, we decided to start a podcast and they couldn't come up with a name.
And I've always loved the term Dream Chaser, even from when I was younger,
right? Like I've always loved it just because.
I believe in that, like chasing your dreams, like everybody has a dream.
So we decided to start the podcast.
And I was like, I always want to keep that for myself. But I was like,

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dude, we're doing this, like we're boys.
I've had this thing, what do you guys think? And they liked it.
So we went along with it. And from there, decided to like start a little clothing
brand, like things like that.
And I think with like anything in life, you kind of, you know,
with those certain friends, like you kind of grow apart, and things kind of change.
I still always like rep it, I always put in like, whatever, we just haven't done anything with it.

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But it's still still a part of like who I am just because dream change is a big thing.
Like we had like logos, we had like everything. And like, I mean,
you saw it, like I had everything thought out, like, and you helped out a ton
with that of like different connects and different things like that to help
bring that brand to life. It's still there.
Eventually it'll make a comeback. I think we just got so caught up with like
the whole real estate stuff and building a team.

(24:44):
You know, now I've been working a lot with Brian and Brian Sancione and Gerardo Lemus.
So I've known them them for a couple of years now. And we decided to team up
and we have this real estate team now where we just focus on like really investing,
teaching people how to invest.
You know, we dubbed ourselves the bearded agents because we all have beards.
So, you know, that's like a separate brand that's going to be created.

(25:07):
Oh, bro. Yeah. Hell yeah, bro. Yeah. No, you got a good beard too,
bro. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
No, dude, like that's coming up. But yeah, Yeah, dream chasers for me is just
something personal just because I always think we all have dreams.
There's things that we can chase after, you know, the brand,
right? The logo was like the astronaut and the little rocket. I remember that.
You know, and the reason why I went with those is because as a kid.

(25:32):
You always think about like, oh, I want to go to the moon, right?
Like you see the moon, you see the outer space, you get taught about all this
stuff and you want to go to the, to the moon.
So, you know, there was like two different logos that were created.
The astronaut was for the younger crowd.
And then the, the rocket ship for like the older was going to be more sophisticated.
So the, the astronaut, why the astronaut for like the younger crowd,

(25:54):
first of all, cause it looks cool, right?
It's a cool little logo, but because, you know, when you're going through training
through like NASA and like all that stuff, you know, know, they put you in the
suit, they put you underwater so you can understand how the suit works and how
it feels, the anti-gravity, like all that stuff.
And I related that to life, right? Because as a kid, you're learning who you are.
You're trying to understand like, how does life work? How does this work?

(26:14):
What do I like? What don't I like? And that's kind of like your training, right?
And the rocket ship brand logo was more so for like the older crowd,
the 25 and older, which again was just a classy little logo.
And why I chose that for the older their crowd was because around that
time is when you understand who you are and what is that you want out
of life yeah so that's when you're like ready to take off right so

(26:34):
that's why like that one was for that so it was like super very
very well thought out like i put hours into it
and like i said it'll make a comeback eventually but that's
that's the meaning of the dream chasers and and why we decided to go with that
because we all have dreams doesn't matter where you are in life you're a mcdonald's
you're the ceo of a company or like whatever it is you all have dreams right

(26:55):
And the thing is to never stop chasing your dreams because when you stop dreaming, you stop living.
And that's this whole thing with like society and it's not bad having a job,
none of that stuff. But if you have a passion, like pursue it.
Like if you have a desire to do something, pursue it. Because even if you fail,
it's not a failure, like it's a lesson.
You learn something from that and you build off of it. And I feel like a lot

(27:17):
of people are scared to fail.
That's that. And that's the thing. Like people don't understand that failure is part of the process.
Like failure is actually a good thing. Yeah. Because first of all, it means that you tried.
And second of all, now you know what not to do. Yeah, no, exactly. Yeah.
And, but, but it's, you know, like we bang in the game for a while now.

(27:38):
So we understand that failure is just, it's going to happen no matter what,
but people are starting out.
They, they always get afraid. So, you know, I recently I've been coaching a
few men, like just some of my friends, just kind of like helping them with some
of the things that I know.
And I, that's one of the things that I focus on. Like, dude,
like, first of all, you don't need to have everything figured out.

(28:00):
Like, just start right now.
And then from that point, like understand, okay, fail quick,
understand why you messed up and then get back again.
Dude, I'm failing all the time. Yeah. But now it's just, oh,
okay, cool. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. And you just keep going. No, exactly, dude. Dude, but going back to the
Dream Chasers, bro, like, I'm not saying this just because we're on camera,

(28:22):
but I feel like eventually you need to bring that thing back.
Like, especially now that you're telling me that meaning, even if you,
like, just rock your own stuff.
Yeah, no, for sure. Because there's, people need that, bro. People are hungry for hope.
Yeah. And the way you just packaged the whole thing for me right now,
that's like, dude, I'll buy that. Yeah. I'll buy that.

(28:43):
Yeah, no. no give me one yeah no that's what i'm saying that's what i'm saying
like there was like a lot of thought put into it because it meant something
more and like anybody and that's the thing right nowadays everybody wants to
make a brand and like things like that but a lot of people don't think.
Through it right they're just like again everybody's just trying to make money
quick so they just throw whatever it is and if something sticks cool but for me it had a ton of meaning

(29:04):
and that's what i tell people like when they hear dream chasers like
i have a lot of people that hit me up like oh dude every time i see an astronaut i think
of you or like whatever but like when they hear the
actual meaning of like why they were chosen and why there's
two different brand logos and things like that like it really resonates
and people are like dude that's actually sick like it's it's dope
so you just gotta make time for it that's the thing you know you make time for

(29:26):
things that are important so i just gotta yeah just gotta do it if you ever
need help let us know man like no you've been there bro i know you're my go-to
bro even if you need just one shirt like as a matter of fact right now like
i have an event this this week and now like Like I don't really focus on a lot of merch.
I'm going to start bringing merch, but like same thing, limited.
Yeah. One-on-one, very exclusive.

(29:46):
But right now my team, as we're speaking, they're working on an outfit for me for this weekend.
It's a GMRT thing. Yeah. Like I have like hundreds of designs that I did over the years.
And now slowly I just been bringing them back and just rocking them myself.
Yeah, dude, you had a lot of dope designs on your brand too.
As you were talking about that, I was thinking, man.

(30:07):
Like I said, if you ever need just one design, just let us know, bro.
Let's do it. We'll do a Dream Chasers GMRT collab. A collab,
bro. That's going to be worth a lot. Hell yeah, bro. That's what I like to hear.
Dude, so I want to go back to what you're actually doing right now.
Because I know right now you're helping the Latin community.
But I just found out you actually do it for the American crowd too.

(30:30):
And I know a little bit. I don't know a whole lot.
But you're helping them create that wealth that
freedom yeah how does that work like how do you do that
and then how do you package that thing how do you
even bring the hispanic community to that because that sounds like already like
yo it's a mission yeah it's a freaking mission bro it is it is especially with

(30:51):
again like the mentality again the hispanics have like everything being a scam
yeah whatever but basically what we're doing is everybody knows everything's
hard Like we got a crappy economy. It sucks.
Right. But it doesn't matter what's going on in life. There's always an opportunity.
It just depends on what goggles you have on at the moment. Right.
So, you know, with the team that we have with Brian and Gerardo,

(31:12):
you know, we decided to really focus on the education piece and what are the opportunities. Right.
And one of the things that we realized, and it's not to like shame anybody or
nothing like that, but one of the things that we realized is like,
there's a lot of realtors that they themselves either don't own own property,
or they've never invested in real estate.
So never like fixed and flip the home, never have any like personal like rentals or things like that.

(31:36):
So, you know, in this market, it's all about education and again,
helping people see the opportunity.
So if you aren't yourself doing those things, how can you help properly anybody, right?
So what we decided to do is like, okay, what are the opportunities here, right?
And there's a ton of different different ways that we help people.
So in the seminars that we host.

(31:58):
We talk about four different topics. So the very first topic,
and like everybody in the group, we're all licensed in different things,
which is one of the things that I love because we're so diverse.
So the very first thing that we teach people in the seminar,
so we'll spend about 15, 20 minutes on each topic.
The first one is mindset. So we talk about mindset. Yeah.
So we have Gerardo who is, and also Brian licensed in NLP, so neuro-linguistic

(32:22):
programming. programming.
So we start off with mindset. Why?
Because it doesn't matter what you're going to be taught in that seminar.
If your mindset is not right, none of the stuff matters.
Wow. So within that first class, we talk about mindset, limiting beliefs,
how to set proper goals and things like that.
Because again, if you don't have that right, everything we teach you afterwards,

(32:42):
oh, it sounds cool, but you're going to go home and not do anything.
So we start off with mindset. The second class that we go into is we start talking
about different loan products. So we bring in a lender from the community that's doing big things.
And we teach or we have the lender teach about loan products,
how to qualify in points of credit, all those things, and how to leverage loans
in order to invest in multiple properties.

(33:03):
The third thing that we talk about is real estate investing.
And that's where we have one of the guys come in, Brian or Gerardo,
and they help teach about Airbnbs, fix and flips.
One of the big things that we're teaching people is about seller financing right
now, because that's huge with how high interest rates are.
Right now, it is becoming very unaffordable for people to get into homes.

(33:25):
But our job is to help people find ways to get into homes because there's always a way to do it.
A lot of people won't teach you about it because it doesn't benefit them.
And that's where we don't care because our job is to help these people.
Get into homes because eventually the business comes back. And that's,
that's where we have a very different mindset than where a lot of people do.
That's wow. Okay. You got, you got my head spinning now.

(33:46):
And then the last thing we talk about is life insurance. So again,
me, Jairo, different people on the team, we're licensed, like we have the life producer license.
So we teach people how to protect your portfolio. Once you create a portfolio,
how to protect it through life insurance, right?
Because a lot of people don't understand what life insurance really is.
A lot of people just think life insurance is just a, if I die,

(34:06):
my family gets the benefit of having a death benefit and they're going to be good.
But there's so many different ways to use life insurance, especially like in the investment realm.
A lot of people are just not educated in them and really understand it.
So we break down basically step one to step four, how to build a portfolio.
And we help people all around because our job is to help people pass the closing

(34:30):
table. because as a realtor, the most help that I can offer you once you sign
that paper is saying, hey, I was able to negotiate a one-year home warranty for you.
So if anything happens to the house, you know, in that first year,
that warranty will cover it. After that first year, you're on your own. I can't help you, right?
So that's where, again, it goes back to like 2018, how can I separate myself

(34:52):
from all these people, right?
Because there's all these agents who had years years of experience,
have more money than me, had more marketing, have more clientele.
So how can I differentiate myself from these people?
And that's when I decided to go out and get my life insurance license.
Because for me, again, thinking about the clientele that I work with,
I want it to be a resource to clients.
So again, dealing with the Hispanic community, right? You know,

(35:14):
a lot of Hispanics, what do they do?
They do construction, they do landscaping, they do jobs where they really do
put their bodies on the line.
And most women, what do they do? They're at home with the kids,
they take care of the kids, right? That's the traditional roles within the Hispanic community.
So what happens is that husband passes away and they just bought a house.
Wife doesn't work. She can't pay it. So how do you protect this new asset that

(35:34):
they have and make sure that this family doesn't go homeless, right?
So that's where that came in. It's just like, you know, for as much as you spend
on your Starbucks or your Netflix or whatever, you could buy yourself an insurance
policy that's going to help protect that asset that you just had that you just
bought and make sure that your family is really protected.
So again, it's helping families see the bigger picture.

(35:55):
And a lot of people are always like, oh, you know, you're You're doing two different
businesses. You should just focus on one thing. And it's not.
Because again, I'm in the business of helping people build wealth and helping
better themselves and see the bigger picture. That's my job.
Yeah. You kind of like, it's kind of what I was telling you off camera. It's an ecosystem.
Yep. You have the ecosystem. So one thing fits into the other. Are these events free?

(36:17):
How do people like sign up? How does that work?
Yeah. So all the events that we do are free, again, because we want to provide
education to the community. So we try to host events at least twice a month.
We do one in English, one in Spanish, because one of the big misconceptions
is like, oh, you speak Spanish, you're a Hispanic realtor, you only deal with Hispanics.
It's like, no, actually I speak way better English than I do Spanish.

(36:39):
So we help out anybody. And that's the thing, right?
Like we don't, we really don't see color because underserved,
people being underserved, it goes across all races. Doesn't matter what race you are.
So yeah, they're free. We always post them like on our social medias.
We always do like marketing. They're like always up on like Eventbrite.
So, you know, we try to do them in different counties too.

(37:01):
Brian and Gerardo, they live out here in Salt Lake County. I live in Davis County.
Yeah. So our goal is to be able to hit the big counties, right?
And do events in each one.
Yeah. If you guys ever need help, like down here in Salt Lake going south,
I got people that could help you guys out to host these events.
So just keep that in mind if you guys ever want to spend.

(37:23):
Now, I'm thinking one guy on top of my head, he has a beautiful building down
in Orem, and he's always willing to let people use it so I can make that connection
for you. Yeah, no, that'd be great.
Because, again, like I said, a lot of people, they may not do anything,
but our job is to be able to push out that information.
Because there's a lot of misinformation, which is why a lot of people are scared.

(37:45):
Yeah. But that's what people want. Because if you live your life through fear,
you're going to be stagnant. You're not going to do anything.
Yeah. So we all know that in down markets, there's money to be made,
and that's when millionaires are made.
And you said you're teaching this in Spanish too, right? In English.
English and Spanish, yep. Both languages. Huh.
Yeah. Everybody on the team is bilingual. So, uh, we do both.

(38:06):
Cause like I said, underserved is everybody.
It doesn't matter what race you are. There's people that are underserved in every single race.
And how long are these seminars?
They're about an hour and a half. So we, each topic, we spend about 15 to 20
minutes on each topic. And then we have some time left over for like questions.
And then obviously we cater. So we'll have like snacks or food or whatever.

(38:26):
Dude, I love to, once we're, now I'm getting off
track here no you're good but i love to have one and
here i love to in english
yeah and i love to invite some some people
and then let's make it like a little event like
i try to limit any event that i have yeah i
try to limit it to 12 to 15 people yeah but

(38:47):
i handpick everybody that comes into my world so
but now that you're saying those things i want to
learn some of that because you're i'm taking notes here and then i'm
i need to learn about that yeah so yeah let's let's
not forget to talk about that no we'll yeah we'll get it soon yeah so
dude that's really good that you guys are doing that man that's that's very
powerful like especially that you're just out there helping people bro like

(39:09):
it feels good when you get to help people yeah no and i think we all have that
feeling like every time we leave an event like me and the guys were always like
super hyped just because you see the reactions that people have because obviously
when people come into the the classes,
they're kind of weary, like, you know, what's this going to be, whatever.
But when they leave and not, not only do they leave, they stay because they
want to talk to you and like go through what is that they learn,

(39:32):
how excited they are and things like that. Like that to us is such a big reward.
And remember it's free. We're not getting paid to be there. We're not getting
paid by them just listening and all that stuff. Right.
But we know through the knowledge that's given that they're going to do something
and they're not going to go anywhere else.
And that's, that's what we do is like, we provide that education where like
anybody else says, Oh, you want to learn how to like invest in real estate?

(39:54):
Cool. Pay me 10, 15, 20,000. I'll show you.
And it doesn't have to be that way. True. Yeah. I know a lot of people that. Yeah, I know a lot, bro.
And the crazy thing is a lot of those stuff, find it on YouTube,
bro. Like it's really on YouTube.
But we want people to know like, hey, we're here. We're in the community.
We speak both languages. We're here to help you.
Like that's all we want to do is be that resource because there's a reason why

(40:16):
a lot of agents and lenders and different people have left and gotten jobs.
And there's a reason why we're still here and we haven't had to do that.
And that says a lot about who you are and the type of business that you have.
You know, that's so good. Let's talk about that really quick.
I know a lot of real estate people. Yeah.
And I know also a lot that have left. Now they're back to a job.

(40:41):
Yeah. Why is that, dude? Because I've heard, oh, yeah, I'm making all this money, all this payouts.
And I'm like, why are you going back to a job then?
A lot of things. What's the deal with that? So I, I, again, I don't want to
blanket statement or making anything like that, but a lot of it has to do with
the way you spend your money, right?
The last, you know, 2020, 2021, even at some of 2022 was really good.

(41:05):
People made a lot of money, but when you start making a lot of money,
what do you, you know, what are you doing?
You start spending, you want to start flexing that you make money.
So you send, you start buying the boats, the ATVs, you start getting into sneakers,
you know, doing all this stuff instead of like really using your money and investing.
Investing and that's where it goes back to you know
understanding what we have like as agents we have access to

(41:27):
all these properties all these things right so if we're not the first ones attacking
these properties and you know providing solutions to these people that need
to be out of homes and leveraging those for ourselves in order to like either
fix and flip or have them as long term holds or helping them see the wholesaler
finance aspect of it like you're messing up and.
There's again there's a reason why people leave i've always been taught again

(41:49):
and it's from you you know, growing up with not a lot, I've been taught how
to save money. I'm a really good at saving money.
And I'm really good at when I see an opportunity, like I'm going to invest in it.
So that's one part of it. And then the other part is really providing value to your clients.
Because if you are just an agent that just knows how to write up a contract
and open a door, what value are you providing to that person?

(42:10):
Because anybody could really do that.
And that's where we strived again to separate ourselves into like,
let's really be a resource for these people, right?
We help them out through every single part of the process.
And that's where we differentiate.
And I feel like because things weren't handed to us, we had to work for this.
It made us, it makes us that much more hungrier because when it's a business

(42:36):
that it's a family business or like whatever, right?
That just came easy for you, you don't value it.
And I feel like that's why we're still here and why we're still thriving.
Like, and we see the opportunities because there's, again, there's opportunities
in every market. It just depends on what goggles do you have on. Wow.
And, and at the end of the day for us, it's always the clients.
It's always the clients and seeing what's best for them. Like I went to a closing

(42:59):
for these guys yesterday.
It wasn't my closing, but I went to go support them and grab some footage and things like that.
And seeing how grateful those clients were for what it is that they did for
them. That made me happy.
Right. right? Cause those are my guys. Like I want to see them succeed.
And I've seen the progress the last couple of months of where they were and
where they are now. And that makes me way happy.

(43:19):
Again, like that's something like a paycheck will never ever like bring that
much joy than seeing the change in, in these people that you have invested your time in.
And the thing is they're investing in me as well, right? Because I don't think
I'm big enough where I can't learn from them. I learned a ton of stuff from them.
And I feel like that's where it sucks to say like in real estate,
for me, me, real estate is very high school.

(43:40):
Like it's very cliquish. It's very like, oh, we're going to go to this event
because we get to dress up in nice suits and things like that.
And you start losing focus as to like what real estate really is and why it
was established and how it could really help families create wealth.
And that's where like, I don't let myself get sucked into that stuff.
Like I'm cool with like walking my own path. No disrespect to any other agents

(44:02):
or anything like that, but that's just who I am.
And again, because I am led by who? I'm led by God. I follow what it is that
He wants and the path that He wants me to take and the people that He wants
me to help. So. Wow, dude, that's really, wow.
That's so good, man. Like I'm relating to a lot of that cause that's kind of
how I've been living my life this year.
Like, you know, I stopped looking at what other people are doing.

(44:24):
I just listened to God. Yeah. I, you know, I walked by His principles.
You know, I'm serving at church. I'm doing all this stuff. Yeah,
I've seen that, dude. That's dope. Yeah, dude. I saw it.
As a, dude, as when I started going to church,
Right now I'm prepping for, I have to do this whole class at church in a couple
of weeks and I'm prepping for the whole class.

(44:44):
But right now I'm recruiting people to come in to join the year program that
I'm in right now. I'm recruiting the class for 2024.
Right now I have four so far.
I originally wanted to get five, but I got cocky. I'm like, dude, I think I can get 10 now.
So, but one of the things that I'm working on right now is that,

(45:05):
you know, when I started to going to church i had every
excuse yeah why i couldn't go to church why i
couldn't do this why i couldn't serve why i couldn't do that like
yeah i had all the excuses right now you
ask me anything church related i'm trying to fit it in i need more give me more
deal and i look around my life i'm making the most money i've ever made yeah

(45:27):
i'm happier i'm more aligned than i ever been and it's just like that alignment
just comes naturally dude it's it's crazy how everything everything.
Like it all comes back to that, right?
Like really when you put God first and start seeing what it is that he wants
out of your life and you start aligning with it, every little thing starts to line up, right?
And God slowly starts removing people that doesn't need to be there anymore

(45:49):
or like opportunities that you shouldn't be a part of.
And that's one of the things like for me, right? It's the year of growth and
learning to see those things and accepting them and not questioning it, right?
Because I am very easy to like question things and be like, Like,
oh, maybe God doesn't want that, right?
But it's just like, you get that feeling where it's just like,
no, dude, like, God's telling you, you know? And if you continue,

(46:10):
the consequences, like, that's on you.
And, I mean, you could tell these guys, like, I'm always talking about different
things. And sometimes they get
scared when I start talking about scripture stuff or whatever, but it's.
Dude, actually, let's go into my next question now.
Because I know you went to, on an LDS mission to Mexico, right?
No, my brother went to Mexico. I went to Argentina. Argentina.

(46:30):
Yeah. Tell me about that. So you went to, are you still active in the LDS church?
And are you still, like, do you still talk to people from Argentina?
Yeah. So I went in, I went from 2008 to 2010.
Went to Buenos Aires, Argentina. Okay. So yeah, the experience going on a mission was awesome.

(46:50):
I think like most people, right, that they won't say, but a lot of times like
you go for your parents, right?
Because you want to make them happy and things like that. that and I will say
like a big part of that was me going for my parents because can I sit here and
confidently say oh yeah I had this whole testimony of like the church all that stuff.
No and again a lot of it had to do because I was born into it so I it's just

(47:13):
something that you knew was just a part of your life so you never I never really
had like testimony I guess you could say,
But I remember going, like, do I regret going? Not at all. I don't regret going
at all because it helped me grow as a person, you know, being away from family,
being in a different country.
And for me, it was like one of those things where I saw people actually sacrifice to serve God.

(47:35):
You know, living in Utah, you get turned off by the church, like really bad.
Because the whole purpose of church and all that stuff is for you as an imperfect
person to go and be better, right? right?
And try to be better and surround yourself with people that are trying to make
themselves better as well.
But here it's served as a badge of honor and like, oh, I'm better than you because

(47:58):
I go to church. And you get that attitude.
And that's what turns people off from wanting to go to church.
And not just, LDS church is prominent here, but that's any church.
It doesn't matter if it's Catholic, if it's evangelical, like whatever it is
that happens in every single church is that people lose focus on what church
really is and what it it is that God was teaching us, right?
Because again, we're men.

(48:19):
So you start adding that piece of man into it and that's where it screws everything up.
So I learned a lot of like humility. I learned a lot of like really seeing like
God's love from those people. Like I love the people of Argentina.
Like I have people that hit me up all the time from Argentina,
just see how I am and things like that.
And I appreciate them like more than no, like they're like family to me,

(48:41):
like how they took care of me, right?
Because they didn't have to, You know, church-wise, am I active?
I haven't been active in a while.
But a lot of the values and things like that, like, I always carry with them.
Dude, you have more values than some church people that I know. Yeah, no.
It's like, I can feel it. Yeah, no, same with you. Like, that's what I'm saying.
Like, and you sense it, right?

(49:03):
And that, for me, is like, I finally found, like, my own testimony.
I had my own relationship with, like, with God, with Jesus, like, my Savior, right?
I learned to find that through myself, through the struggles and things that
I went through. and, you know, would I think or imagine myself talking like this a few years ago?
Not at all. You know what I'm saying? But again, a lot of it has to do with

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things that you go through and people that you surround yourself with now, right?
It has a ton to do with that stuff.
Like I have such a strong relationship with God. Like I rep it everywhere.
Like I have clothes, you know, Jesus is King. God is good. Like all this stuff
where before would I ever wear that? No.
But now I was like, I don't care, right? Because I know I'm here because of God, right?

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So then that's never going to leave me. And that's one of those things,
like, doesn't matter what happens, like that belief is always going to be there, right? I...
I think for me, you know, the whole LDS church thing, like that's why I was
turned off from it. Like, am I anti-LDS or something like that? No, not at all.
I just don't like the way that people portray, I guess, or carry their lives

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based off that, thinking that they're better than other people.
Because it's things that I went through, right? Because I never wanted to get married young.
Like, I never understood how you could come from a mission or like even not
go on a mission and get married at 19. Yeah, bro.
And I was like, what? I struggle with that, bro. Yeah. Like,
it was crazy. I was just like, dude, that's wild. Like, I don't even know myself, right?
And then you start going out, like, as you grow, right? You start seeing some

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of your friends talk about how they hate their spouse or, like,
they're unhappy or they wish they could do what it is that you're doing,
right? Or you get to travel. You get to do your own business.
Doing that stuff, they can't do it because they got a wife to take care of and
they have kids to take care of now.
So, those dreams that you had all of a sudden aren't your dreams now.
It's what your family needs. They get married quick.
Yeah, super quick. That's the thing. You don't have time to,
like, really dream. You, like, come back and get married.

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Because, again, the Utah bubble, the check marks they have to do.
And if you don't do it, you're doing something bad.
And that's what they try to get me with. Like certain people,
I'm sure you know, because we went to church together, but, you know,
they try to hit me with that kind of stuff.
Like, you know, talking about if I didn't do, if I didn't get married,
I wasn't going to be able to achieve certain things and things like that.
And that to me, like really turned me off from that.

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But in a way, it also pushed me to really find my own relationship with God.
And I'm glad like I'm here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
That's big because this year, as I'm walking this path with God, it's a relationship.
That's what it is. And here's the kicker. With that relationship,
you always have to work on that relationship.

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It doesn't mean that we're standing here saying we're these holy mans.
Yeah, no, not at all. We're battling things. I'm sure you got some battles that
you're dealing with. I got some battles that I'm dealing with, but it's...
God is so good, man. Yeah. No. You repent, you talk, you pray,
you worship, whatever you do.
And then you keep walking that path. Yeah. Because that's what it's all about.

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Like, you know, like my church, there's a lot of like ex-LDS and it's been very
interesting hearing some of the stories, you know.
Yeah. And there's nothing against LDS church.
It's just been very eye-opening to see like
that a lot of people at church didn't
have have a real relationship with god that's kind of what you're

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talking about just check yeah check check check
check that was it yeah no that's all it's not fun then at
that point then why why are you even doing that for bro yeah go
then just go live your life yeah i know just do whatever you want yeah and that's
that's the thing right because when you think of like church and like all that
stuff like you know why are we here on earth we're here on earth to learn obviously
you don't purposely send in stuff like that but it's gonna happen right because

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we're human yeah but But you understand what Jesus' sacrifice was.
You understand that Jesus knew, you know, you guys are still going to mess up,
but that's why I did this for you.
And that's honestly like the thing that I carry most is that, right?
Because, you know, if Jesus was able to forgive and take all these sins and
do all this stuff because he cared about us, you know, that's,

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you know, that's how we should live our life.
I can't judge anybody for what they do or what they say.
Like, I can honestly say, like, doesn't matter what anybody's done to me.
I don't have anybody that I can say I hate or that I have malicious,
like wishes for them or nothing like that.
It's like, I hope everybody like is happy.
I hope everybody finds the happiness that they need. And any person that has
crossed my life, I hope I left a good impression and, and vice versa.

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Right. I'm glad for any person that's come across my life because I've learned something from them.
Like I value people in general, right. Because everything happens in life is,
is all a, we're all here just to be tested and to grow.
Right. So you have to see see things in that light. You live a negative life,
only negative is going to come towards you and that's why

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i see life like i always see the positive in things i try to see
the the beauty in things i try to see the beauty in people and
even if there aren't meant to be in my life forever i'll cherish
what is that we had at one point and what i was able to learn from you and and
go from there right because there's no point in living a life that's miserable
because it just carries on to everything else yeah dude that's so good especially

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the point that just kind of like cherishing the moments and because people are are going to come,
come in and out of your life and you have to be okay with that.
Yep. You have to be okay with that. Whether it's business, relationships.
Friendships, whatever that may be, you have to be okay that,
you know, like I had a dating coach back in the days and he was like,

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love it's you gotta love somebody in such a way that they, they feel free to come and go.
Yeah. It was something like that. And that it's been very powerful.
Like I still apply that. Like when people come into my life,
like even if I don't like, for example, have friends, we're all busy.
Yeah. If we don't talk for six months.
Nothing personal. Yeah. Nothing. But then when we meet again,

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it's like nothing ever happens. You just pick up from where you left off. Yo, what's up, bro?
What you up to? And then you just keep going.
That's what it's all about. That's exactly what it's about. A lot of times people
forget. Yeah. No, and that's why we had this conversation too.
It's just like a lot of people forget.
Especially like past friends, right? They, and not past friends,
just friends in general, a lot of them don't understand that,
you know, you evolve and you grow. And a lot of friends stay stagnant.

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So they don't like seeing that new version of you, right? They're used to the
old version of you. So now that you're different, it's like, oh, you changed.
Oh, because you have money. Oh, because you do this and that.
And it's like, no, like, and I'm sure you're the same. Like as a person,
you want all your friends to come up with you.
But when you see that they aren't, it's just like, I have to keep going,
right? Because again, life is so short, bro. bro.
Like we're all going to die. Like, that's the crazy thing. We're all going to die.

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And I can't sit around waiting for somebody or like, whatever,
I'm going to do my part. I'm always the invitation. They're going to be there.
I'm always going to be there as a person, but life is so short,
bro. Like you can die at any moment.
And like, when you think of that, it trips you out. And it like,
to me, at least it motivates me.
Like yesterday we have a group chat with these guys and I sent them a,
like a, it's kind of like a meme thing, but it was just like talking about how, what was it, Brian?

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Like one of your homies, you're not going to see the funeral one
oh the funeral one yeah you just realized
that you're not gonna be able to see your friends funeral or
funeral yeah because one of you guys
are gonna go first holy shit yeah bro you know i can't go visit your funeral
you died you know yeah so if you didn't if you couldn't hear brian basically

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it was like what you're not gonna be able to see your friends your best your
best friend's funeral, your friend's funeral, if you pass away.
And like that jacked me up. Like I said, it's these guys, we were like.
Bro, we're like, like sad boy hours, bro.
Sad boy hours last night. I think I said it like, it was like midnight probably. So.
That's even worse, bro, see that in the morning, bro. Yeah. That night,
bro. Yeah, no, but it jacked me up. Cause like things you don't think about. And it's just like.

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Yeah, no, it is. Dude, and I've
been noticing lately, like, a lot of young people are dying, bro. Yeah.
Not people that I know, but, like, people that I know that they know.
Yeah. Something like that. Acquaintances.
It's like, bro, like, what the freak? Like, really? Yeah.
And it's a trip when you start thinking about it that way.
And then you're like, okay, then why am I doing certain things?

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Why am I not just being who I am? And, you know, you just said that something
about like when people are, as you start growing and leveling up,
you know, some people are going to hold some resentment.
Oh, yeah, for sure. And I experienced that a lot. Like now it doesn't get to me like as it used to.
But here's the thing, bro. And I'm sure you relate to this. You're so aligned

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with yourself that you can't even feel that energy.
Yeah. And it's like, right now, like what I'm trying to do, I just ignore it completely.
Sometimes I just delete people like whether social media and stuff like that.
Because, dude, I've been bashed on people that I held like I thought they were my friend. Yeah.
And I'm like, dude, I haven't even talked to you in like years.

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Yeah. And you got such a strong opinion.
And now you got a very strong opinion about me. Like, where were you before?
Uh-huh. You know, and these are some people that knew me when I hardly even spoke English.
Yeah. I was barely new to the country. I'm like, you had the same opportunities.
Same opportunities, yeah. Like, as a matter of fact, you were born here.
Yeah. You could have done it way sooner. You could have been way more, yeah.

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So it's like, and I've, it's been very interesting just kind of seeing that progress.
But, you know, at the end of the day, like, people are just on their own journey.
And it's very interesting what you said like
especially with the with the ldls lds
community here it's like they get married they
have kids at a younger age

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and they don't live yeah they
don't get to live and i feel like no matter what that's a
very important part of your life so you can figure out
what you really want to do and who you truly are yeah no
for sure i mean not to say it doesn't ever work out stuff like that
obviously the people that are happy and stuff like that but the vast majority especially
the world that we live in right we live in a world of like instant gratification

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like if i want a date i could pull up my instagram
or a tinder like whatever and find a date right away so it's
just like you feel like you're in this world where you have so many options
and life's just different so if you don't know yourself know that this is something
that you want like it sucks to transfer that on to like a partner or whatever
so it's yeah it tripped me out but again like everybody has their own journey

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and you gotta do what's best for you or whatever,
but yeah, it's, it's, it's an interesting place to live in Utah, dude.
So just to wrap it up here now, one of the last questions that I ask every guest
here in the podcast is right now in your current situation, and it could be
multiple things. It doesn't have to be one thing.

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What's something that you're grateful for? Dang.
You're grateful for? I'm grateful for relationships, to be honest.
Because like we were talking about like everything, there's seasons in everything,
right? And every person in your life has a season.
And I've been able to see that like throughout my life, like I can pinpoint

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certain people that changed the trajectory of my life.
And I don't think I'd be able to realize their value or why they were put into my life.
If again like i was in line with with you know
my savior right so i'm very grateful for
for that because i am where i am today because of
certain relationships and even if some of those have ended right they served
a purpose for me to get to where i'm at right now so super grateful for for

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that dude that's so good you know like i relate to that i'm grateful for a lot
of things but now that you're saying it like that i relate to that like a lot
you know especially like you you know, my relationship with women.
Yeah. You know, like this year has really changed.
And, you know, there's a specific girl that, you know, I really like loved. Like I really did.

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And right now as a more aligned that I've ever been, I'm grateful for that.
Even though she's not in my life right now, I'm like, man, I needed to go through that.
Yeah. Yeah. And I'm so grateful for that person. Yeah.
That's what I'm saying. It depends on the eyes that you look at it and if you're
ready to accept those things, because I think a lot of us aren't.

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So when you are. Yeah, no, 100% it's hard, dude. It really is.
But it's a part of the growth.
And I think when you start seeing life in a different way, right?
Instead of like the materialistic and like all that stuff, like your life changes a lot. Yeah.
And you really stop caring about like what other people think and you start
to really start to live for yourself.
And I feel like that's what a lot of people have a hard time doing nowadays

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is to live for themselves.
Yeah. Because everybody's trying to impress somebody else or like,
you know, show off and do this and that. And that's not a way to live like at all.
So, so, uh, and then, so where can people find you, your social, your Venmo account?
Man, Venmo, dude. Yeah. Like people can Venmo. Yeah. Nah, bro.
Yeah. No, just social media. I got Instagram, Facebook, TikTok,

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and it's all every, I think all of them are just Steven.
So I spelled my name different. different. It's S-T-E-E-V-E-N underscore Alvarez, A-L-V-A-R-E-Z.
And you can just find me on there.
You know, we just post events, different educational stuff and yeah,
you guys have questions, whatever, feel free to reach out.
Like I said, we're always happy to help. We're here for that purpose. So, yeah. So good.

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Hey guys, man, this was such a good episode today, man.
Like we, there was a lot of nuggets in there for you guys as,
as you're starting out, like, especially if you're starting out,
like here's a guy that's like doing it his own way, like, you know, the culture,
all that, all those those barriers and you're still doing it and you're doing that at a high level.
So I encourage everybody to take notes, re-listen to this episode because this

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is what, while I'm doing this stuff, you know, like I know I've said it multiple times.
It costs me time, money, resources to, to do these things.
But I want to just give you guys some game because I know if you apply to everything
that he said and every other guest that I brought, you're going to get there.
It's just a matter of time. So anyways, guys, thank, Thank you for listening

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to this episode, and we'll see you guys next time. Peace. See you.