March 25, 2024 • 70 mins
In this latest episode of the GMRT Experience, join Heather and Tiffany, the driving forces behind Bella Marquet—a successful cosmetics brand. As mothers with divergent life paths, they share their unique insights into building a thriving business based on their passion for beauty and empowerment and the lessons they've learned along the way. They explore the integral role of shared vision, energy, and discipline in a successful business relationship and dive deep into the challenges of growing a brand amidst stiff competition.
They further disclose their personal journeys as entrepreneurs—navigating the dynamics of a partnership, overcoming challenges, and working towards optimal business performance. They highlight the importance of maintaining a balance between masculine and feminine energies and inviting respect for female professionals' talents and contributions.
Heather and Tiffany also reflect on their roles as providers, stress the importance of spiritual health, and reveal how contemporary dating and relationships impact their business. This episode serves as an enriching guide for entrepreneurs, shedding light on maintaining balance, strengthening performance, and nurturing meaningful personal and professional relationships.
The episode also provides a raw insight into their personal experiences—managing life after a divorce, the struggles of balancing a thriving practice with personal life, and the unspoken tolls it takes on individuals. These courageous women highlight the importance of open communication, emotional freedom, and constant alignment for success in both business and personal lives.
Discover the magic of seamless energy flow, robust communication, and positivity for personal growth and business success in this insightful episode. Engage in a fruitful discussion on communication gaps in relationships, the power of self-improvement, and the exhilarating thrill of travel. Listen as Heather and Tiffany share captivating personal anecdotes from their own lives, offering sage advice on improving communication within relationships, and driving self-growth.
End on an uplifting note as you explore the transformative power of travel and the gratitude of living an authentic life. Tune in now to embark on a journey of self-discovery and growth as you dive into the inspiring story behind Bella Marquet.
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Music.
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Welcome to another episode of the GMRT Experience.
It's going to be a good episode. We got some feminine love, feminine power in
the house. So welcome, ladies.
Thank you. How are you doing today? So good. Good, good.
I don't know. How about we start with you guys introducing yourself,
telling our audience a little bit about who you are, what you do,
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and then we'll dive right into it.
Yeah, absolutely. So I'm Heather. And I'm Tiffany. Yes.
And we are both moms, different types of moms. I'm a single mom.
And I have been married for 21 years. I have five kids.
So thriving. I have three kids.
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So we have two companies and we're actually really excited.
We are launching our YouTube YouTube channel this week.
And that channel focuses all on mindset, body, and beauty.
All the good things. Yeah, all the good things, all the good things.
We've both had a lot of failures, a lot of setbacks in life.
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And we're really just here to make our mark on the world.
And we're firm believers that everyone should make their mark on this earth.
So good. So what's the name of the channel?
It's Beauty Binge. Unit Bench. Yeah. And it launches this week?
It does. Are you guys excited?
So excited. Yes. It's all the things that I love. Make sure you put the mic.
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Yeah. Oh, great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All the things that I love to talk about.
So it's not just one thing. We get to talk about a lot of different things.
So how did this partnership, like, came about?
Like, you guys are, like, you know, superpower right here. Like connecting and
then helping each other out.
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Because I understand the value of that. Like that's why I have a team and they empower me.
And because I have them, we get better. And it's just like a flow that helps
each other out. Absolutely.
Interesting story. That is a very loaded question, Rainey, how we met.
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So we met actually through our now ex-business partner.
Yeah, it's quite the tale. We discover that a lot of people have had,
you know, challenges with partners. partners.
And so, yeah, I do think that's something we should talk about today.
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It's something we're really passionate about. Go ahead.
Yeah. So we kind of met through work.
We were working together and loved Heather's energy and her mindset and all of the qualities.
And it was just kind of a realization.
This is the partner I want. So good. So yeah.
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What were you going to say, Heather? Oh, You had something to say.
Yeah. Oh, no, no. I can't recall anymore.
But to go off of what Tiffany said, absolutely.
I think we were just naturally attracted to each other.
And after connecting, we realized that we really shared the same vision for
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business and life in general.
So you will say that that has helped you guys as you're starting all these new adventures,
business and all of that, like really take it from like an idea to like,
okay, we're going to start this out because you're so aligned with the way you
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guys think and stuff like that. Yeah. And it's easy.
It's so much easier because we're on the same page.
We have the same goals and we just help each other out. So it's a lot of teamwork.
So are you single? Me? Yeah. No, married.
Okay. So how does that dynamic because so you're single, you're married.
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So and you got your ladies are starting your own business.
You got kids, I'm assuming like your husband, your kids, dad,
like, how does that work?
Like, is that like gets in the way or not really?
No. So this is something really important in life in general,
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this thing called balance, right?
And so we're firm believers that you have to have balance in every area of your life.
And because we're firm believers in this balance, right, we are able to do incredible things.
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So every morning, because we're so in alignment with our values,
we both know, hey, we're working out before we go to work.
We both know that our children in our relationships matter.
And they're being taken care of. Yes. And they're being taken care of. Exactly. Exactly.
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So everything is so aligned in the way we think, in the way we process.
It just has led us to a great amount of success.
Yes. And I think for myself, because I am in the stage that I am where my kids
are at age-wise, I'm able to do a lot more. I don't have the babies.
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I'm not changing diapers. papers, they are self-sufficient.
I can do a lot more. And so I'm ready to do other things. I'm ready to do the business things.
And your kids are kind of in the same, that same age.
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So good.
So this, this leads to my next question. So explain to me a little bit more about your business.
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What do you guys exactly do? What's the goal? Where you guys want to take this thing?
Like because we have a lot of listeners here a lot of them most of them want
to start a business or they have a business or they have a dream of starting
a business so I mean I know you've you,
you've had businesses before but now you're starting something new how does
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that work and what's the the challenge that you guys are going through right
now as you're speaking because yeah like we can talk about like the success
but I really like to focus on what goes on behind the the scenes,
what people don't get to see, you know, and I really, really like that because
many people, for example, I'll explain about my shoes.
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They just see the cool looking shoes, but they don't know what it took to get
that client behind the scenes and all that stuff.
So will you ladies mind talking to me a little bit about that and everybody here?
About how to maybe start up or the process that you guys are going through right
now Now, as you're starting your business thing, explain more what it's all
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about, the business itself.
Okay. Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot to it. So we have a cosmetics line,
and then we have— What's the name of it?
Bella Marquet. Okay. And where can people find it?
Bella Marquet Cosmetics dot com. OK, cool. Yeah. Thank you for asking that.
Shameless plug. Yes. Yes. So we have the cosmetic side of it where we will retail
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things direct to consumers.
Then we also have another line of products that estheticians and cosmetologists
use to do their services.
So lashes and brows, all of the beauty things.
And then our YouTube channel, which is a separate business, so we're running
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two businesses here, kind of gets to expand on those things as well. So, yeah.
Yeah. So do you want to add to that? Yeah. So we sell like just for female viewers out there, right?
Or men who have a partner, right?
We sell products like lip plumpers. Like every female wants like a beautiful
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lip plumper, right? So our line has a lip plumper.
It has an eyelash extension safe like mascara. mascara.
So we have a lot of just beauty products that our end goal, of course,
is to get into Sephora, Ulta, Bloomingdells.
So we're on trajectory to do that hopefully next year.
Yeah. So we're super excited about it. Yeah. So these are products that estheticians
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also use, like false lashes on females like I have.
So everything you do to put a false lash on your eye, we sell. Wow.
I know that's not in your space.
I mean, I know you look beautiful with longer lashes, but yeah.
So those are kind of some of the products that we sell with Bella Marquet.
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And then imagine like our YouTube channel.
Now we can take these products and sell them on the channel.
And then we can collaborate with other companies like yourself, right?
And sell those those products also on the channel.
Okay. That's making a lot of sense now. Yeah.
Especially like I'm assuming the cosmetic world or industry,
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I mean, there's a lot of women out there and they love to feel beautiful.
So you're in a good market, right? The best.
Yeah. And we're not going to stop too. We're not going to just stop with the products we have.
We get to expand and And beauty is always changing.
So we get to find all of those fun products. We just did a video on testing one.
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Oh, really? On our channel. So yeah, the viewers will get to kind of see what that looks like.
Well, what does testing look like? Wow. We're going to show them. So.
That's so cool. Like, I like that. Yeah. What do you guys do right now?
Like, besides the YouTube channel, like kind of market this thing?
Like, is it on Instagram?
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Or what's the process with this? So to market our aesthetics line.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.
So Instagram, YouTube, and then schools, influencers.
So yeah. Schools. Yeah, that makes sense. Like beauty schools.
I bet that's pretty good for you guys. It's really good.
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And, you know, we've tried a little bit with the marketing, you know,
Google ads, Facebook ads.
It's hard. I think a lot of entrepreneurs think, oh, I have this great product.
All I'm going to do is run some ads on Facebook and it's going to blow up.
It doesn't work like that. It's a lot harder.
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See, and this is what I wanted to ask because as you're starting a brand and
all of that, we have this idea.
Like I had the same idea too. Like, yeah, I'm going to run these ads and my
product's going to hit and I'm going to make a million dollars and I'm going to be chilling.
Yep. Right. It's going to work out like that. It's hard. It's hard work.
Including for a product like yours. Because, I mean, I would assume women would
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just eat that up like that. But how do you put, especially here in Utah,
like, is there like, because I know, like, I've noticed, especially this area,
women, they take care of themselves.
Yes, we do. Like, I used to live in Layton.
I moved around here in Utah, but I noticed this Draper area is like top, top.
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And do you guys have a lot of clients around here? Is this like a good area
for your product or is it anywhere?
All of Utah. Utah sets a lot of beauty standards.
But the whole country, I think some states are slower with the trends,
but eventually they get it and they get it.
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Yeah. But no, we're Utah based for sure right now. So we're tapping into other
parts of the country right now.
But yeah, it seems like Utah is the Mecca for the beauty industry.
Like a lot of the aesthetic companies are actually created in Utah.
Most of them were created here. Yeah. Especially with lashes.
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We set the bar in a lot of ways with the eyelash extensions.
You know what eyelash extensions are, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah.
I have that, she does not. She explained that, yeah.
The first time my husband saw me doing lashes, he's like, it looks like you're doing surgery.
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And he's like, that looks like something I would never want to do. It looks terrible.
That's funny. Yeah. So we do set the standard on a lot of beauty things. Yeah.
But really, to answer, because I do think this is important to talk about,
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you want to talk about behind the scenes with business, right?
And what it takes to get a business going.
Well, you know, just as we know, it's a lot of hard work that goes into starting a company.
And what's most important I know that you run your company on your own but what's
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most important is the people you choose to do business with and so the reason why our companies.
Have the success that they do so early on and we believe will continue to is
because of our firm partnership.
We started this, well, I actually originally came into it with a partner that
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was just out of alignment.
With our energy, with our vision, we were just off.
And so as people are going to start a company, if you plan on doing that with someone,
that like a marriage will be be the number one most important partnership you will ever pick. Wow.
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And so we highly suggest that your vision is the same,
that your energy is the same, and that your discipline is the same.
You know, I was attracted to Tiffany because, I mean, I am a visionary.
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There is no limits or caps to my thinking.
I am very abundant in my thinking. And it's interesting when you converse with
people and you say, oh, I think that we should get a company private jet membership, right? Right.
Or, hey, let's get custom shoes made with Rainy.
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Or, hey, let's take this thing global. Or, hey, this can be a billion dollar company.
With other partnerships, there's been hesitation when I had mentioned these
things, which shows a cap in their thinking, a cap in their vision.
Does that make sense? It makes a lot of sense. OK, so if you run into people
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and you cast your vision and there's any kind of hesitation,
subconscious hesitation, that's kind of a red flag that you need to pay attention
to when creating a partnership with them. Same with energy.
We are so motivated. We are so disciplined.
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And so our energy feeds off of each other.
Right. Just like your environment and who you associate with is the key to your
success or demise. And you know what's interesting as you're talking about that?
I've almost, this year, I almost made that mistake twice.
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Twice. And these are people that, I mean, they're still my friends,
still go, you know, hang out with them and all of that.
But the first time that
it happened i realized when i
said no because we're gonna bring an investor because
in my head i needed that in my head at the time and you know the offer was made
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and i'm like dude yeah i can do all this with this money get all this equipment
all this blah blah blah but i wasn't aligned like it didn't feel right and luckily
enough this is the good thing game,
I have good people around me, people that have done it.
They've made the money. They lost the money. And I asked everybody,
hey, what do you think about this?
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And they all told me the answer that I wanted to hear, which is don't do it.
Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. And I'm glad I didn't because now I look
back at it and after I was like, you know what?
If this is is going to take me five, 10 years to build it to the way that I
know I want to take this by myself with my people.
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I'm in, I have nowhere else to go. And then everything changed for me.
You know, I've made mistakes and had failures with a couple different business ventures.
And I've recognized that and fixed that now where I thought I could make up for that energy.
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Like it's fine or maybe I wasn't deserving of it.
And now it's just a hard, hard line.
Like the people in my life the people that i work with yeah gotta have that that high energy,
to work with yeah and i liked what
you said rainy you were aware and
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you were in tune with your intuition and so
i think in business and in life right in general always being in tune with yourself
self and just practicing being quick to be aware. Yeah. Right.
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I think we ignore that sometimes too. I know I have, like you feel that,
like you talked about, you feel that in your gut,
maybe you take too long or to make the right decision and, you know, get on the right path.
So yeah, I think listening to your gut and those inner thoughts is right.
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Yeah, for sure. With our partnership that we kind of are, have broken.
I mean, I was, it took me four months.
It took me four months to realize, hey, this is, this is not going to work,
you know, and it's time to end things and, and go our separate ways.
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And that's okay too like
yeah it's okay to have yeah to leave
and recognize we don't work very well together right and that's okay right yeah
no it's a blessing yes right yes it's a good blessing because then you know
like hey we're not meant for we could be friends but not right here yeah Yeah,
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exactly. This is different.
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So behind the scenes, just be, be very careful and picky
about who you choose to go to business with.
So with that, I'm going to skip a few questions. I'll go back to that because
we're talking about behind the scenes.
Interesting to see like your, your feminine perspective in the business world,
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because Cause it's mainly dominated by guys, you know, like,
you know, I got all the money.
I do all this yelling you, you, you, you, all of that. Yep.
You know, a lot of what I do, I have to like the creativity flows by me staying grounded.
I've noticed like, yeah, I'm a very masculine guy, but I also love that feminine
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energy because it keeps me, you know, like on good creative flow.
And I've noticed women tend to notice things that men just don't even look like they just pass by.
And I'm that guy, especially when I go to like high level masterminds,
I'm the guy that like, I don't even like talking to a lot of people.
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People think I'm very social guy, but I'd rather not talk to anybody because I like to observe.
And I, and I noticed, you know, how those energies flows, what the woman is,
if it's a guy, like the speaker is talking, what is his wife doing?
How is she like, like all those little things. I love that.
I want to hear more what you think about, like, what's your perspective on the
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business world as a woman and all that stuff.
The cool stuff. Give me the good sauce, the good stuff from your perspective.
I think we've come a long ways.
So I, how long ago was this?
I was in the work force working for a company here in Utah.
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They were a big company, had a lot of diet and beauty products.
And I worked in the marketing department and had to work with a couple men. men.
That was interesting. And I don't feel like I felt a lot of respect.
I mean, I respected them, but just the way they treated you was a little condescending.
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So that was a long time ago. That was like 15, 16 years ago. We've come a long ways.
I feel a lot more respect from men towards women women in, hey,
they can do this. They're smart.
They're talented. You see a lot of husbands kind of their wife is the breadwinner
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and they're like, dang, you can do really well.
So yeah, I think we've come a long ways as a society for sure. Yeah, I agree.
I think just the differences in men and women, right?
Men are far more logical and women are far more emotional, right?
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It goes back to the hunters and the gatherers.
The men just went and got the food where the women had to be very specific, right?
With their weaving the baskets, with nurturing, with navigating exactly how
to explain where they found the berries and all of that. It's this hunter-gatherer thing.
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And I do think, like Tiffany said, we have come a long ways.
I experienced something actually in my marriage.
I started a company and I had to work and I had to work hard.
And so I remember it caused friction because the house duties weren't getting
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done like they were previously.
Right. And then so he saw me kind of stepping more in my masculine and having
more success and taking on that role, and it caused friction.
Right? And so I think men should be supportive if a female has a goal and a
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vision to create something. thing.
I think some are good at supporting and some are not.
You know, that's, that's interesting because I've dated girls that,
you know, like they don't have a business.
They just live in their life and all that cool stuff.
And it was cool.
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It was fun, but it was like, you know, And I couldn't explain them the lifestyle,
especially when you're on the building stage.
Like, dude, I got to pay the bills. I got employees. I got no other option.
I'm not collecting a paycheck here every two weeks.
But I also, now I understand because I have coaches right now that help me with relationships.
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Even though I don't have a, I'm not married, I'm not dating anybody,
I'm prepping myself for that.
And I made that mistake. And then one time I dated a woman that was too much on her masculine.
And that was bad. Very beautiful woman.
Like, and I will tell her you're so freaking hot, but you're on your masculine.
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And she was, she was in this world, like corporate, you know, woman.
And I get it. I'm like, you have to be that way because you're in that world.
But as a man, I was like, I can't engage a very beautiful woman.
So I struggle with that. I've struggled with both. Now I kind of have a balance.
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I also understand as a man, I got to open up my woman emotionally and all that.
It's not like, yeah, you do this this way, all of that.
I understand all of that. But I've had very interesting things happen because of that.
Yeah. So you're attracted to the... And this goes back to balance again,
right? Exactly. Balance.
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I'm attracted to a little bit of both. Right. And that's where balance is so important.
So we obviously have to run in our masculine, but we are so balanced where we
still take care of ourselves. We still do the feminine things.
And we're in the beauty industry. Yeah. Right. But yes, I love the balance.
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See when I was married I was a
stay-at-home mom I ran in my feminine when
I got divorced I immediately had to
figure out how to make that switch and go into
my masculine because now I'm the provider now I don't have a husband to say
hey can you come you know like paint this wall for me or change this light bulb
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or fix the TV or do yard work. Now it's all me.
Now I have to take on the feminine and the masculine role.
And so it was this huge switch that I had to learn to run in that masculine.
And I did that for a while.
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And now I feel like I've been able to kind of
hone back and find a
better balance for myself for sure because I love
being feminine I love it we kind
of talked about we're both a little
masculine yeah right yeah yeah because we don't get our feelings hurt very easily
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oh yeah right let's talk about that yeah I like that so yeah one One thing my
mother-in-law noticed about me very soon was...
Like you're kind of the, I'm not the man in the relationship.
Like my husband is very manly. He's got big muscles, like lots of testosterone going on there.
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But my dad actually raised me.
So I just have a different personality.
I like the drama. I'm not into that. Like you just, because I think my dad raised
me, it was like, you didn't have time for the emotions.
Like, no, you just do it.
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Yeah. Like you just go to work and do it. Like you don't whine. There's no crying.
Like there's no crying in baseball, you know, that phrase.
But yeah, so he raised me and I'm just like a little bit tougher.
So yeah, I don't know if you feel the same way. No, I appreciate that. Yeah. Right.
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I don't know, Rainey, do you find girls to be emotional? Emotional,
maybe, let's just throw it out there.
Emotionally weak. Like they cry. Well, I don't. Get their feelings hurt. Well, here's the thing.
I've learned, and this is what I've learned from my own personal experience,
that when a man has a mission, a purpose, takes care of business,
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and you can open up your woman, you know, you make her feel safe.
And I've had to work on that. Because there's been relationships that I'm like,
dude, I really wanted to work that out.
But guess what? I had to look at the man in the mirror and I'm like,
dude, I fucked up on some things too. It was not just her.
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I had just as much fall as she did.
And I've realized that, you know, emotions don't get me.
Too too crazy because i mean my one of
my employees she's a girl so she's actually helping me
right now be a better leader because the way i
talk to ozzy and coach ozzy it's not the same way i'm talking to to sierra like
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it's completely different i go deeper with her emotions i use different words
like i can't be like right to the point like how i go with ozzy it's completely
and And I even tell her, hey,
you're making me a better leader. I'm learning because of you.
So, yeah, some women are emotional. But I also feel like, you know,
as what I've seen as you start climbing the ladder of success,
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whatever that may be to people.
But for me, it's like you start attracting more of what you want and less of what you don't want.
And I really focus on that. So if I start, I don't put up with a lot of things.
Like you know give people some passes but it's very
few because for example like i don't know
like dating right now is wild that's why
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i don't i don't do no dating apps i'll just i was literally
talking to one of my friends today about this is like he was are you dating
on my bro i'm just like living my life and see if i meet somebody along the
way but it's like you do like dating girls girls around my age and a little
younger is wild because they're like, they're all over the place.
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They have a lot of like baggage. And I'm not saying I don't have any,
but at least I'm working through them. I can admit like, hey,
yeah, I messed up or something.
But a lot of people can't do that. And it's hard.
So, yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
I don't date at all.
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What is that heather no she's not
ready some of the guys are gonna be
listening to this i'm just i'm just i
you know we care about growing our company and like
you said if it happens it if it happens it happens right yeah and that's part
of the balance balance of life recognizing what you can take on yeah right and
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not right taking too much on with relationships business business.
Yeah. Being smart about it and timing.
And I learned that this year, like.
So like I was telling you off camera. So this year I gave my life to God. I found God.
Like I literally now I have a relationship with God, Jesus, all that.
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And one of my biggest thing was woman. I love woman.
But I was like, you know what? After I started learning all this stuff,
like I'm on a one year Bible program right now.
I'm about to finish here in January and next year I'm going to be serving.
Serving, but one of the things, the rules that they had, it was like,
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no sex, no drugs, and no living with your partners if you're not married.
And I read the rules and I told the pastor of my church, I'm like,
I ain't going to join this program because I'm doing every single one of these
things that I'm not supposed to be doing.
He said, dude, just come, join, God will change you. I'm like, yeah, whatever. Yeah.
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I was going through my life, you know, dating and all of that.
And, you know, I actually did a podcast, which is my most listened episode ever,
which is, I don't know who's listening to that, but it was called Celibacy,
No Porn, No Jackie, No Sex, No Woman. Oh, I saw that title.
Yeah. Yeah. And I went through that because I used to think that my personal
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life wouldn't affect my business life.
I was like, yeah, I can have all the fun in my personal life.
And then once in the business, it's like I'm a new man. man.
And it was not true. And I, after learning what I was learning at church and
all that, I'm like, you know what? I'm going to give this thing a try.
And then I did it. I literally, I became a celibate man.
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And I was like good for like almost four months.
And I'm telling you, I was a different man. I'm still celibate.
I'm still walking that path.
I had one hiccup one one-timing, I was very public about it,
like, because I want to help other guys, too.
Because guys don't talk about this. They keep it on the back.
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And, man, it was the, like, literally this summer was the best summer of my
life. My business grew. I was sharp.
My employees were like, they were like, dude, what's different about you?
And it was, I can tell you it was because of that.
It was truly because I was like,
I'm not going to, I'm going to treat my personal life like it's a temple.
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And you've changed the whole thing for me.
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And we kind of agree like spiritual health is
very important and vital.
And those areas bleed in to different aspects like of your business.
Like if your spiritual health isn't good, if your mental health isn't good,
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that's going to affect your work life and your business as well.
So going back to balance, right?
All these things just have to be, all of them have to have, you have to pay
attention to each of them.
Yeah, and I'm a firm believer that we are energy.
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We are these godlike quantum energetic beings.
And when we are true to who we are as a being and are in total energetic alignment within ourselves,
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then everything can flow in life.
So perhaps when we do things that are against who we are as a being naturally,
it can cause friction in business and our relationships and our finances and everything.
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So maybe this path you went on just put you back into that, right?
Like this God-like energetic being.
A hundred percent. Right? That now everything in life just flows effortlessly.
A hundred percent. You're just in continuous flow state. Yeah.
And one thing that like, as I was walking this path, it doesn't mean that it gets easier.
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Like it's actually, I have a lot of challenges. Like, you know, I get it.
Life, it's hard. Yeah. But what I realized is that if I'm in that constant alignment,
those bumps, I can get out of them super quick.
Before, these things will drag on weeks, months, years. Now it's like,
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oh, I'm having an off day.
Okay, let me switch back up. And then I'll start like worshiping or I go walk the dog.
I do little things. I have things
in place that bring me back to who I know I am and it flows so good.
A thousand percent. We were actually just talking yesterday.
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Have you read The Untethered Soul?
No. What's it called? Yeah. Listen to this if you haven't or read it.
The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer.
Okay. So he talks about that very specific thing, allowing all energy to flow
into the heart and flow out of the heart, including positive energy.
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And so when you practice keeping your heart open always and letting the bad things that,
come to us that happen in all areas of life, letting those come in energetically
and then then letting them flow out energetically, as well as the good.
I mean, how many times have you heard someone talk about their glory days back
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in college? And it was 20 years ago.
You know what I mean? It's also letting the good moments in our life flow into
the heart and flow out of the heart.
And so you're constantly remaining open.
So there. Right. Which allows you to be in consistent and continuous alignment.
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That's really good. Do you have anything to add to that? Yeah,
maybe just to add to that, like, yeah, not getting stuck in the past.
I think a lot of us can. Oh, I was this, that, or the other.
I'll never do better. Of course you will, like, keep trying and growing.
And a lot of spirituality is, it's not about perfection, but it's about trying.
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So like even when you make mistakes, that's okay.
People will get so stuck on that and not let that go. Oh, I made this mistake.
I'm not worthy. I'm worthless.
That's not true. This life is a growing experience.
Like allow yourself to make mistakes and then keep working on yourself. Keep growing.
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It's a process. It's not going to happen really fast. And that's okay.
And you would say that, you know, part of all this alignment,
it flows back into the business, right?
Into your creations, the ideas, like, yeah, we need to do this. We need to do all of that.
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Like, it flows into that. A thousand percent.
Oh, yeah, a thousand percent. And what's interesting, right,
as you stay in that flow space.
People you need just magically appear in your life. Have you had that?
It's like I was showering today and we really needed a particular statement.
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And so I was just like in this flow state kind of manifesting and thinking all
the things and really trying to stay true and honest to me at all times.
And I got out of the shower and there was a text message with the exact statement I needed.
That's awesome. Yeah. That's so cool. And it just happens. And so I think that
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goes to show your positivity.
Sorry, speaking into the mic here.
Positivity is such an important thing to me.
I do not do well with negativity or people that are negative.
I am always like the glass is half full type of girl.
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Me too. I can't stand people like that. Oh, yeah.
Like, it's just like they just bring you down. Even if you say that,
yeah, it doesn't affect me. It does. It does.
So, well, I have my own men's mastermind. So we meet the last Thursday of every
month. Why can't women come, Rainey?
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I can, I'll answer you that. So actually, that's a good question.
Boys only. I love to answer that question. The female-only group.
Yes. Starts next Thursday. Do it.
I'll be your keynote speaker for the Thursday. Yeah, okay.
So I'll tell you why it's only men's because I go to a lot of masterminds and
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business and stuff. And, you know, it's all transactional.
You do this, I do that. We work.
I was like, yeah, I like that. It's cool. There's nothing bad about that.
But I wanted to start something that I can bring...
Some of my friends and people that I don't know, they invite some of their friends.
And yeah, I bring a keynote speaker. I've had Sean Finnegan.
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Last Thursday, we had two pastors, his wife and him speak.
I've had a bunch of very successful people at different levels. And they talk.
But the purpose of the mastermind is to have a brotherhood of men that help
each other and we keep each other accountable.
So and I'm I've been very open like
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I tell guys hey some of the struggles that
I've dealt with they're on my podcast but if you want to go deeper this is where
we talk so we all break off and I encourage them if you have you know if you're
struggling with pornography if you're cheating on your wife like what stays
in the room stays in the room but I have good people in the room that That could help you out.
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So I don't have just Christian guys. I have some successful friends.
That one of my best friends. He's been married for like 40 years.
Scott Travis. He's the one that painted that Jesus.
And all this other stuff that I have here. Same thing. He has a relationship group.
For a married couple. And it's
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five grand. If you want to one-on-one with him. But I get him in the room.
And he helps other people. So it's all about that. And a lot of guys that probably
won't feel comfortable talking about that in front of a woman.
So I want to create a safe space that let's talk about it and see how we can help you.
And you have some brothers that can, you know, be like, hey,
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bro, like, that's not you. Like, get your shit together, man.
So that's what it's only meant. I love that. Yeah. And I love that,
especially because you're helping men also talk about their emotions.
You're helping them do that. And a lot of men struggle to talk about their emotions.
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And so that will affect your marriage, right?
If you're in a marriage where you can't openly express yourself and talk about
your emotions and really talk about how you're feeling, that is going to cause issues.
And so I love what you're doing because perhaps now they can go home home and
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practice that with their wives.
That is one thing that's huge. Me and my ex-husband, we talked about this actually
in a video post-divorce where had we been able to,
really, really express how we felt and see the other person's perspective,
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perspective right it probably would have saved our marriage so all these men if they can go home,
share openly and honestly with their wives how
they're feeling and she has the ability to understand him where he's at and
he can understand her that will save most marriages alone wow i am a firm believer
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in that that's true but you have to be able to understand the other person's reality.
Right? Because the way you just heard what that person said is totally different
than the person right next to you.
Right? You both heard the same message, but you decoded that message differently. Yeah.
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So you need to understand how the other person, right, is decoding the messages.
It's all about communication.
Absolutely. And you're right about that. A lot of guys struggle with that.
They struggle with it because it goes back to that they gotta keep that persona
that they have it all figured out and literally i tell the guys here like your ego stays out the door,
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or you ain't coming back here yep because i
i don't need i don't need another front i
can go to another mastermind and get that yeah this is
a different type of mastermind you will get the business deals like
i will put successful people in the room but that's
the least the last thing i want to do talk about
just business because what i've noticed from my own
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personal experience going back to you know being aligned
the moment i started getting aligned dude i i could connect with anybody like
the the the connections were just right in front of me so imagine if you give
because it happens i've had it with a few members like you you give somebody
the tools but they're They're not aligned.
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They're not, you know, like they're just, they have too much chaos going on.
They're not going to be able to apply anything at all.
So, yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Maybe I should have you ladies one time come and
just speak to these men. Well, I'll go talk to those men.
We can give you some perspective on women. I think. Do it, please.
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Guys, pay attention, please. Oh, boy.
Write it down. it's it's it's like
safety and security i mean that's number
one for women they want to feel safe and
secure in the relationship so and
heard yeah and heard so do we we could do a whole nother i know we got where
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i think men want to feel appreciated yeah that's true you know what i mean it's
like that's true we all kind of want these different things and so it's really
important to communicate about this.
I mean, I could go all day because I've been divorced and now I can see where I fell short.
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Like I take full accountability.
Relationships are always two-sided. Absolutely. It's never just one person.
Well, that was a plus. That was a bonus because that was not even on the agenda. No, yeah.
So that was good. Thank you for that. Thank you for giving me and all whoever
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guys listening to this that feminine perspective on how things are,
you know, because we were talking about it.
A lot of guys just hold everything back and they're like, yeah, she's crazy.
She's like, you know, I get it. Like guys, sometimes we're all over the place as well.
But what I've noticed, kind of what we talked about, the behind the scenes,
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is that a lot of these guys, they have a big ego.
And then the ego doesn't allow them to be like, hey, you know what?
Maybe I'm not right about that.
Maybe I need to just kind of like be quiet and just listen.
So give her the mic. Sorry. Give her the mic, please.
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But I'm going to talk both sides. Yeah, go ahead.
All right. So I've been divorced 15 months now. Okay.
My ex was a doctor, a very successful one.
Okay. So a surgical prosthodontist.
Just rebuilt your mouth. So incredible man.
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Love him. so as he
was going through schooling and then starting a practice and
that comes with a lot of debt right he was really struggling okay and you have
a lot of business owners and probably a lot of wealthy business owners that
listen to this podcast okay so i thought during the course of our marriage, everything was okay.
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I thought he was okay. I thought business was okay.
I thought, you know, everything was great because that's what I was told.
And then as our marriage was ending,
he opened up and shared that for years he was waking up in the middle of the
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night with like cold sweats, hot sweats,
having heart palpitations, extremely stressed, extremely overwhelmed,
just had this massive dark cloud over him.
Him, you know, you know, scared to pay this amount of debt off that he had,
like all of these things that he was feeling that he kept in that I never knew about ever for years.
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And so when I would act in my daily life and maybe go spend money,
you know, and then he He would get upset that I spent money,
but I only heard that things were great, but yet that triggered him, right?
Because I was spending money. And so now he's becoming resentful and angry because
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of the things I'm doing, right?
And so had I had known that he was struggling so much emotionally and internally,
I could I could have been a better support for him.
I could have shown him love.
I could have changed my actions and the things I was doing. Right.
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Spend less money. Show more appreciation.
Right. I could have completely adjusted my behavior to help him feel differently.
Supported, appreciated, all of those things. Right. Right.
And and so not saying that that was wrong, but a lot of men don't communicate and share reality.
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And then that causes divorce. Yeah.
Right. And so I would just say communicate.
And then wives.
This is super important for females. Super, super important.
We have to hear them
right we have to give them a
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safe space to share and they have to feel appreciated and you want your man
to feel appreciated right and supported yeah 100 yeah and so like be good to
your men right and support them and stand behind them like had i known so so many things,
I would have done so many things differently, right?
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But females need to understand what their husbands are going through.
Because we're starting a company and it is hard work. You work all day.
You work all night. You're stressed.
You got to pay bills. You got to do all these things, right?
Yeah. And so the wives really need to be able to understand what they're going through.
Yeah. And support them through that.
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So good. That's my GD. No, no. That makes a lot of sense because actually we
talked a little bit about it on my men's mastermind this month.
The topic was family. family and and then
the two pastors they're obviously they're married and
before they moved to Utah they run
a very successful business and all of that and I got going back to my other
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friend Scott Travis same thing he's run multiple eight-figure companies and
then he moved to Utah now he's an artist and there's a common factor on those
two relationships and the ones that I've I've seen that work.
It's like the woman, they're open with their woman. They tell them,
hey, this is what's going on. This is where the business is.
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They got access to their world. It doesn't mean that she goes,
tells, hey, you need to do that this way.
She just knows, she's aware what's going on and she can give an input.
And then from that, okay, we'll see how we move.
So I've noticed after you saying that, I'm like, oh dude, Scott talked about
it. The pastor talked about it. So So it makes sense.
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It makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Yeah. So.
I don't have the same experience because my husband's a mental health therapist.
So he shares a little too much.
He's very in touch. Very open. I know exactly what he's feeling.
I can't relate. You can't make a woman happy.
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Share too much, don't share at all. What's the balance? I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know what the balance is. I would say to over-communicate, if anything.
Absolutely. I mean, because, yeah, if you're if and that's where I,
my fault has been is just holding stuff in and not saying anything.
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And I'll just do it. I'll just get the things done.
I'll just do it. So instead of just learning, I think a lot of women do this.
There's a lot of passive aggressiveness where we don't just say what we want.
Just say it ask for it it
took me a long time yeah to do that
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and feel comfortable doing that yeah so
yeah well that's literally like that's i got a buddy of mine we did a podcast
one time and we talked about like a lot of women like they just don't tell you
what they want yeah i'm like dude just tell me what do you want i worked all
day like these fly-ins were We're like crazy today.
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My employees are like, just tell me what you want, please.
Because I don't know. I don't know. You can answer this, but you don't know, right?
We don't think the same. I think we expect men to just know what we want.
And maybe this sounds mean, but they just don't.
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Unless you specifically, and I don't know. No, I hate that because I guess I feel like a nag.
But, you know, asking, I need this, this, this, and this. But if you don't ask it,
I had a dating coach and we used to talk about it.
Do I need to get one of those? But honestly, I've tried everything because I'm
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telling you, once that woman comes into my life, I've done the work.
That's awesome. And I'm still doing the work. She better be doing it too.
That's what I'm saying. Yes. I ain't putting up with. Oh, no.
I'm not putting up with BS. Me neither, Rainey. No BS allowed.
Dude, we go to the same masterminds. I see you everywhere. We are aligned in that. Work on yourself.
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You have to work on yourself. But my coach or the dating coach,
he used to say, men are like dogs.
You tell us, sit, we sit.
Move, we move. Treat, we eat the treat.
And he would say, women are like cats. You can't chase them because if you try to grab the cat,
it's going gonna run away so he had this crazy analogy
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like women are like cats men are like
dogs yeah okay so hey in
a lot of ways for sure i i mean i love this conversation like i'm like it was
not playing guys but for the boys out there you're gonna get a lot of game apply
that and your dms are gonna be like exploding i'm telling you just communicate
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you know what though i think a lot of people People, though,
don't say what they want because they don't know what they want.
Yeah. That's a whole nother podcast, though, right? A lot of people don't have
any idea what they want. That's true.
You know what? Right? Well, that's true. It's like how many times have you asked
a girl, well, where do you want to go out to eat? Well, I don't care.
I don't do that. Well, I don't know. You don't? No. I make the plans.
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Oh, see? That's manly. Men make your plans. This is the time.
This is where we're going. Yeah. What if I don't want that, though?
See? I'm throwing up. Then you say it.
Doesn't happen a lot. Instead of resenting him, then you say,
no, let's go somewhere else. Otherwise, you'll resent him. Yeah.
That's literally what happens.
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Yeah. See, we can't make you girls happy, man. I'm teasing. There's not a winning. I am teasing.
I'm just giving you crap. No, like, you know, I like to, like, lead. I'm a leader.
I'm not saying, like, yeah, you got to do it this way. But especially,
like, right now where I'm at, I don't have a lot of free time.
So if I make plans with somebody, like I'm going to be there,
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I'm going to show up like it's prepared,
you know, it's like we're not wondering like, oh, I wonder if Johnny or whoever
that person, whoever you're hanging out with is going to show up like,
and that's what I like because I treat my personal life like business too.
Like if I have, I have a client, I put it on my calendar, I know they're gonna show up, I'm prepared.
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Same thing with my personal life. Like put it on my calendar,
I show up, I'm prepared. I'm not messing around.
Cause they're not- Yeah, you don't have time for that, man. Like if not,
you're like, what are we doing here? Right, yeah. Yeah, we were just talking
about that being reliable.
So I don't even know where we are.
We got we got a little bit of time. I want to I want to get into for you,
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Heather, because I know you you love to travel.
You know, you travel a lot. Like I like traveling. I haven't been doing it in
a while, not just because of work.
But what's what like I mean, I think I know why you love traveling.
But what do you like traveling and what's the favorite place you've been to?
What does it do when you leave town and just like experiencing things?
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Like I knew you were in Peru one time and checking things out.
Because I know like I'm from Venezuela.
People here in America, they think like the world is this until you go to another
place and you realize that, dude, we're so fortunate here.
I'm assuming that does an impact in your life. So just kind of want to talk a little bit about that.
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Sure. Sure. So I run my life off of experience.
So I love experiences. So my kids for birthdays or Christmases,
I create experiences for them instead of buying things because that far outlasts
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anything tangible that can be bought.
And so there's lots of reasons why I like to travel, but a change of environment is huge.
When you go and put yourself in a different environment, it literally changes
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the physiology in your mind.
So when you're going on and standing on a beach beach at the ocean and it's just warm and sunny,
the way you feel in that environment is far different than standing up in our
snowy mountains. Would you agree?
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A hundred percent. Right. And so inserting yourself into different environments
will, it will change you. Yeah.
It will change And so, yes, I was just in Peru and that completely changed me.
That was a very spiritual change.
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Trip per se. And in that two weeks I was there, I basically fell in love with me. I became one with me.
Peru is like a magical land. It's just like a blessed country. It's a blessed land.
And so the experience I had there and the connection I acquired within myself
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was a life-changing engaging experience, right?
Versus like when I buzzed down to Mexico for the weekend, right?
That's just like relaxing and amazing and the sun on your face or scuba diving.
So you can just, this world is so full of rich, I don't know,
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experiences and beliefs that I believe all of us need to see. So good.
Yeah. What's your favorite place you've been to? you peru oh
my gosh i love probably australia oh you've been there i've been there did you
fight i'd like to africa too but like australia for me was just such a magical
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country everyone is nice,
no matter where you go in the country it's clean people are
just respectful they take care of themselves the foods organic and delicious
i dove the great barrier reef so just being it's magical i don't know so good
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do you do you have a favorite place you'd like to go or you've been to.
I love Hawaii. Oh, I've been there one time. It was really fun.
It's, yeah, I've been twice.
It's been my favorite place so far. And you're right. Our country just here is beautiful.
There's so many things to explore.
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I feel like I've explored our country a lot, just in Utah.
Like you can find a spot every weekend and just be in awe of the beauty that
is here. There's this place that I want to go here in Utah.
It's like this cave and there's like a, not a river, but like a,
it looks like a pool, but it's not a pool.
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And then there's like a hole in the ceiling or the cave and you can look through the sky.
Like it's like a, I have to look it up. Where is that? Like Pelican? No, it's down south.
It's like, there's a lot of TikTokers that do a lot of content there.
The water's like blue, blue.
It's here in Utah and it's like it's a cave and you jump in it's the water it's
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like super pretty and then you can look and there's like a hole and you just
look at the sky and I don't know if it's man-made but I don't think so because
it looks like not man-made at all but amazing,
find out I want to go there's a lot I'm all over that right yeah there's a lot
of places you can talk oh for sure,
don't tell anybody though we shouldn't even be talking no No,
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we're not talking about Utah.
We'll tell Lisa, my guy, just to pick up. Yeah, just slice it out.
But what I do want to say is like traveling makes me live in such a space of
gratitude. When I was in Africa.
I went to what you would view Africa as.
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So we went there. I mean, sewage running down the middle, no kids with hardly
any clothes on, kind of that picture you get, right, of when you think of a foreign country.
Yeah. We spent the afternoon there.
Literally 30 minutes later, I was standing inside Gucci.
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What's that? Gucci, like Gucci, Gucci. Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Like surrounded by Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Dior.
Literally, that's how close the slums of Africa are to just,
right, complete wealth.
And so to experience something like that, going from people who live with nothing
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to people who live with, quote, everything,
right, it literally gives you such a strong perspective about who you are, right?
And living in a space of complete gratitude and oneness every single day of your life.
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Gratitude for the abundant lives we live here. So good. Perspective. Yeah, perspective.
Well, ladies, I want to honor your time. Is there anything you want to plug
in here? I know you had some notes.
We're good. We're good? Yeah. Yeah. So lastly, one of the last questions that
I ask every guest that comes into the podcast is right now in your current situation,
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what's something that you're grateful for?
And it could be multiple things. It doesn't have to be one thing.
But right now, where you are, what are you grateful for?
Just talked about this. Yes.
With some friends. But the number one thing for me is my healthy body.
I just really appreciate that because it allows me to take care of my kids,
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run a business, do all the things that I need to do. So I'm extremely grateful for that.
I'm also grateful for family and just those connections and relationships.
And then what was the third thing? Oh, just
living in a modern modern world with
all the modern things a car a
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car to drive you somewhere i mean like you
have to ride a horse anywhere my grandpa rode a horse to
school that wasn't that long ago and
just to think of all the things that we have so i'm super grateful for
that and we don't have to live like a pioneer i
know that's really good i even think about that that's yeah that's the
first like that's the first one that i'm like wow that's shocking because
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yeah it's like it's in our our everyday life we just
kind of take it for granted yeah right first thing
honestly that comes to my mind is is my kids but also
to be honest like what I'm most well not most but what I'm really grateful for
right now in my life is awareness like I'm super grateful that I am aware of my life.
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Like I lived in a space of numbness for quite some time where just I wasn't
ever happy. I wasn't ever sad.
I just kind of ran through the emotions of life.
You know, you just kind of wake up, go to the gym, take care of kids,
clean the house, go to bed with your husband, and the cycle repeats, right?
A lot of people just live in this state of numbness, you know, I call it.
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And I I lived with no joy, but no sadness.
And so I'm so grateful that I've worked on myself and my mindset and my spirituality.
My relationships, just myself in general, to where I'm aware of my emotions and I get to feel them.
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I get to feel the joy. I get to feel the pain. I get to feel everything in my life right now.
And I'm actually, I'm extremely grateful for that.
Wow, that's really good. That's so good.
That like both of you guys's answers like i don't
even think about like because i ask this to everybody but i'm
like huh you're making me think even more and
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i appreciate that because i i i do
this podcast just to to have interesting
conversations like yeah sometimes yeah we
have a plan like we could talk about the business and
all that but it goes back to what we were talking talking about we're
not aligned we can't do anything we
it will be you're kind of going to be forcing it if people
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can really understand like that whatever you
want to get or achieving life it comes with the alignment that you have to get
and that alignment most of the time is not even easy it's probably very very
hard because you're going to have to do things that you don't want to do so
i'm grateful for for having you ladies here before i let you guys go and honor
or your time, where can people find you?
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Plug in your socials, plug in your website, your social security number,
your Venmo, credit card, whatever you want.
Venmo for sure. Yeah, we'll for sure add the Venmo and my, yeah,
my phone number for, I accept Apple Pay.
Oh, there we go. There we go.
Yeah, right. No, like Tiff said, Bella Marque, which is B-E-L-L-A Marque,
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M-A-R-Q-U-E, E because it is kind of a long, hard thing.
Bellamarkaycosmetics.com. And then Instagram will be Bellamarkaycosmetics.
And then our YouTube is, it's Beauty Binge. Awesome. What about you, Heather?
Hey, I'm with her. So same info. Same info.
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Yeah, same info. All right, cool. Just making sure.
All right, guys. Well, thank you for listening to this episode.
There was a lot of wisdom in there, especially, you know, We had a game plan,
but we kind of went on a different route, but it was a good route.
I don't think we've really talked about this a whole lot here on the GMRT experience,
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but I would encourage you guys to go back and re-listen to some of this stuff
because a lot of the things that we're setting here and what the ladies were talking about,
apply it in your life, and you're going to see what it's going to do to you
and make you happier. Make you happier. Get aligned.
People need to be more aligned. right now get aligned
the world needs that yeah yeah hashtag get aligned
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and hey rainy thank you for having us thank you ladies
for coming i've loved getting to know you over the last year so thank you i
love being with you thank you not me too and i'm excited to see the growth of
your company i know it's going to be super successful you guys power feminine
power in there so all right guys we'll see you next time peace bye.
Music.
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Welcome to another episode of the GMRT Experience.
It's going to be a good episode. We got some feminine love, feminine power in
the house. So welcome, ladies.
Thank you. How are you doing today? So good. Good, good.
I don't know. How about we start with you guys introducing yourself,
telling our audience a little bit about who you are, what you do,
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and then we'll dive right into it.
Yeah, absolutely. So I'm Heather. And I'm Tiffany. Yes.
And we are both moms, different types of moms. I'm a single mom.
And I have been married for 21 years. I have five kids.
So thriving. I have three kids.
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So we have two companies and we're actually really excited.
We are launching our YouTube YouTube channel this week.
And that channel focuses all on mindset, body, and beauty.
All the good things. Yeah, all the good things, all the good things.
We've both had a lot of failures, a lot of setbacks in life.
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And we're really just here to make our mark on the world.
And we're firm believers that everyone should make their mark on this earth.
So good. So what's the name of the channel?
It's Beauty Binge. Unit Bench. Yeah. And it launches this week?
It does. Are you guys excited?
So excited. Yes. It's all the things that I love. Make sure you put the mic.
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Yeah. Oh, great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All the things that I love to talk about.
So it's not just one thing. We get to talk about a lot of different things.
So how did this partnership, like, came about?
Like, you guys are, like, you know, superpower right here. Like connecting and
then helping each other out.
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Because I understand the value of that. Like that's why I have a team and they empower me.
And because I have them, we get better. And it's just like a flow that helps
each other out. Absolutely.
Interesting story. That is a very loaded question, Rainey, how we met.
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So we met actually through our now ex-business partner.
Yeah, it's quite the tale. We discover that a lot of people have had,
you know, challenges with partners. partners.
And so, yeah, I do think that's something we should talk about today.
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It's something we're really passionate about. Go ahead.
Yeah. So we kind of met through work.
We were working together and loved Heather's energy and her mindset and all of the qualities.
And it was just kind of a realization.
This is the partner I want. So good. So yeah.
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What were you going to say, Heather? Oh, You had something to say.
Yeah. Oh, no, no. I can't recall anymore.
But to go off of what Tiffany said, absolutely.
I think we were just naturally attracted to each other.
And after connecting, we realized that we really shared the same vision for
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business and life in general.
So you will say that that has helped you guys as you're starting all these new adventures,
business and all of that, like really take it from like an idea to like,
okay, we're going to start this out because you're so aligned with the way you
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guys think and stuff like that. Yeah. And it's easy.
It's so much easier because we're on the same page.
We have the same goals and we just help each other out. So it's a lot of teamwork.
So are you single? Me? Yeah. No, married.
Okay. So how does that dynamic because so you're single, you're married.
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So and you got your ladies are starting your own business.
You got kids, I'm assuming like your husband, your kids, dad,
like, how does that work?
Like, is that like gets in the way or not really?
No. So this is something really important in life in general,
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this thing called balance, right?
And so we're firm believers that you have to have balance in every area of your life.
And because we're firm believers in this balance, right, we are able to do incredible things.
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So every morning, because we're so in alignment with our values,
we both know, hey, we're working out before we go to work.
We both know that our children in our relationships matter.
And they're being taken care of. Yes. And they're being taken care of. Exactly. Exactly.
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So everything is so aligned in the way we think, in the way we process.
It just has led us to a great amount of success.
Yes. And I think for myself, because I am in the stage that I am where my kids
are at age-wise, I'm able to do a lot more. I don't have the babies.
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I'm not changing diapers. papers, they are self-sufficient.
I can do a lot more. And so I'm ready to do other things. I'm ready to do the business things.
And your kids are kind of in the same, that same age.
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So good.
So this, this leads to my next question. So explain to me a little bit more about your business.
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What do you guys exactly do? What's the goal? Where you guys want to take this thing?
Like because we have a lot of listeners here a lot of them most of them want
to start a business or they have a business or they have a dream of starting
a business so I mean I know you've you,
you've had businesses before but now you're starting something new how does
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that work and what's the the challenge that you guys are going through right
now as you're speaking because yeah like we can talk about like the success
but I really like to focus on what goes on behind the the scenes,
what people don't get to see, you know, and I really, really like that because
many people, for example, I'll explain about my shoes.
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They just see the cool looking shoes, but they don't know what it took to get
that client behind the scenes and all that stuff.
So will you ladies mind talking to me a little bit about that and everybody here?
About how to maybe start up or the process that you guys are going through right
now Now, as you're starting your business thing, explain more what it's all
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about, the business itself.
Okay. Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot to it. So we have a cosmetics line,
and then we have— What's the name of it?
Bella Marquet. Okay. And where can people find it?
Bella Marquet Cosmetics dot com. OK, cool. Yeah. Thank you for asking that.
Shameless plug. Yes. Yes. So we have the cosmetic side of it where we will retail
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things direct to consumers.
Then we also have another line of products that estheticians and cosmetologists
use to do their services.
So lashes and brows, all of the beauty things.
And then our YouTube channel, which is a separate business, so we're running
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two businesses here, kind of gets to expand on those things as well. So, yeah.
Yeah. So do you want to add to that? Yeah. So we sell like just for female viewers out there, right?
Or men who have a partner, right?
We sell products like lip plumpers. Like every female wants like a beautiful
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lip plumper, right? So our line has a lip plumper.
It has an eyelash extension safe like mascara. mascara.
So we have a lot of just beauty products that our end goal, of course,
is to get into Sephora, Ulta, Bloomingdells.
So we're on trajectory to do that hopefully next year.
Yeah. So we're super excited about it. Yeah. So these are products that estheticians
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also use, like false lashes on females like I have.
So everything you do to put a false lash on your eye, we sell. Wow.
I know that's not in your space.
I mean, I know you look beautiful with longer lashes, but yeah.
So those are kind of some of the products that we sell with Bella Marquet.
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And then imagine like our YouTube channel.
Now we can take these products and sell them on the channel.
And then we can collaborate with other companies like yourself, right?
And sell those those products also on the channel.
Okay. That's making a lot of sense now. Yeah.
Especially like I'm assuming the cosmetic world or industry,
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I mean, there's a lot of women out there and they love to feel beautiful.
So you're in a good market, right? The best.
Yeah. And we're not going to stop too. We're not going to just stop with the products we have.
We get to expand and And beauty is always changing.
So we get to find all of those fun products. We just did a video on testing one.
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Oh, really? On our channel. So yeah, the viewers will get to kind of see what that looks like.
Well, what does testing look like? Wow. We're going to show them. So.
That's so cool. Like, I like that. Yeah. What do you guys do right now?
Like, besides the YouTube channel, like kind of market this thing?
Like, is it on Instagram?
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Or what's the process with this? So to market our aesthetics line.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.
So Instagram, YouTube, and then schools, influencers.
So yeah. Schools. Yeah, that makes sense. Like beauty schools.
I bet that's pretty good for you guys. It's really good.
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And, you know, we've tried a little bit with the marketing, you know,
Google ads, Facebook ads.
It's hard. I think a lot of entrepreneurs think, oh, I have this great product.
All I'm going to do is run some ads on Facebook and it's going to blow up.
It doesn't work like that. It's a lot harder.
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See, and this is what I wanted to ask because as you're starting a brand and
all of that, we have this idea.
Like I had the same idea too. Like, yeah, I'm going to run these ads and my
product's going to hit and I'm going to make a million dollars and I'm going to be chilling.
Yep. Right. It's going to work out like that. It's hard. It's hard work.
Including for a product like yours. Because, I mean, I would assume women would
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just eat that up like that. But how do you put, especially here in Utah,
like, is there like, because I know, like, I've noticed, especially this area,
women, they take care of themselves.
Yes, we do. Like, I used to live in Layton.
I moved around here in Utah, but I noticed this Draper area is like top, top.
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And do you guys have a lot of clients around here? Is this like a good area
for your product or is it anywhere?
All of Utah. Utah sets a lot of beauty standards.
But the whole country, I think some states are slower with the trends,
but eventually they get it and they get it.
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Yeah. But no, we're Utah based for sure right now. So we're tapping into other
parts of the country right now.
But yeah, it seems like Utah is the Mecca for the beauty industry.
Like a lot of the aesthetic companies are actually created in Utah.
Most of them were created here. Yeah. Especially with lashes.
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We set the bar in a lot of ways with the eyelash extensions.
You know what eyelash extensions are, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah.
I have that, she does not. She explained that, yeah.
The first time my husband saw me doing lashes, he's like, it looks like you're doing surgery.
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And he's like, that looks like something I would never want to do. It looks terrible.
That's funny. Yeah. So we do set the standard on a lot of beauty things. Yeah.
But really, to answer, because I do think this is important to talk about,
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you want to talk about behind the scenes with business, right?
And what it takes to get a business going.
Well, you know, just as we know, it's a lot of hard work that goes into starting a company.
And what's most important I know that you run your company on your own but what's
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most important is the people you choose to do business with and so the reason why our companies.
Have the success that they do so early on and we believe will continue to is
because of our firm partnership.
We started this, well, I actually originally came into it with a partner that
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was just out of alignment.
With our energy, with our vision, we were just off.
And so as people are going to start a company, if you plan on doing that with someone,
that like a marriage will be be the number one most important partnership you will ever pick. Wow.
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And so we highly suggest that your vision is the same,
that your energy is the same, and that your discipline is the same.
You know, I was attracted to Tiffany because, I mean, I am a visionary.
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There is no limits or caps to my thinking.
I am very abundant in my thinking. And it's interesting when you converse with
people and you say, oh, I think that we should get a company private jet membership, right? Right.
Or, hey, let's get custom shoes made with Rainy.
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Or, hey, let's take this thing global. Or, hey, this can be a billion dollar company.
With other partnerships, there's been hesitation when I had mentioned these
things, which shows a cap in their thinking, a cap in their vision.
Does that make sense? It makes a lot of sense. OK, so if you run into people
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and you cast your vision and there's any kind of hesitation,
subconscious hesitation, that's kind of a red flag that you need to pay attention
to when creating a partnership with them. Same with energy.
We are so motivated. We are so disciplined.
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And so our energy feeds off of each other.
Right. Just like your environment and who you associate with is the key to your
success or demise. And you know what's interesting as you're talking about that?
I've almost, this year, I almost made that mistake twice.
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Twice. And these are people that, I mean, they're still my friends,
still go, you know, hang out with them and all of that.
But the first time that
it happened i realized when i
said no because we're gonna bring an investor because
in my head i needed that in my head at the time and you know the offer was made
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and i'm like dude yeah i can do all this with this money get all this equipment
all this blah blah blah but i wasn't aligned like it didn't feel right and luckily
enough this is the good thing game,
I have good people around me, people that have done it.
They've made the money. They lost the money. And I asked everybody,
hey, what do you think about this?
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And they all told me the answer that I wanted to hear, which is don't do it.
Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. And I'm glad I didn't because now I look
back at it and after I was like, you know what?
If this is is going to take me five, 10 years to build it to the way that I
know I want to take this by myself with my people.
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I'm in, I have nowhere else to go. And then everything changed for me.
You know, I've made mistakes and had failures with a couple different business ventures.
And I've recognized that and fixed that now where I thought I could make up for that energy.
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Like it's fine or maybe I wasn't deserving of it.
And now it's just a hard, hard line.
Like the people in my life the people that i work with yeah gotta have that that high energy,
to work with yeah and i liked what
you said rainy you were aware and
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you were in tune with your intuition and so
i think in business and in life right in general always being in tune with yourself
self and just practicing being quick to be aware. Yeah. Right.
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I think we ignore that sometimes too. I know I have, like you feel that,
like you talked about, you feel that in your gut,
maybe you take too long or to make the right decision and, you know, get on the right path.
So yeah, I think listening to your gut and those inner thoughts is right.
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Yeah, for sure. With our partnership that we kind of are, have broken.
I mean, I was, it took me four months.
It took me four months to realize, hey, this is, this is not going to work,
you know, and it's time to end things and, and go our separate ways.
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And that's okay too like
yeah it's okay to have yeah to leave
and recognize we don't work very well together right and that's okay right yeah
no it's a blessing yes right yes it's a good blessing because then you know
like hey we're not meant for we could be friends but not right here yeah Yeah,
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exactly. This is different.
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So behind the scenes, just be, be very careful and picky
about who you choose to go to business with.
So with that, I'm going to skip a few questions. I'll go back to that because
we're talking about behind the scenes.
Interesting to see like your, your feminine perspective in the business world,
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because Cause it's mainly dominated by guys, you know, like,
you know, I got all the money.
I do all this yelling you, you, you, you, all of that. Yep.
You know, a lot of what I do, I have to like the creativity flows by me staying grounded.
I've noticed like, yeah, I'm a very masculine guy, but I also love that feminine
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energy because it keeps me, you know, like on good creative flow.
And I've noticed women tend to notice things that men just don't even look like they just pass by.
And I'm that guy, especially when I go to like high level masterminds,
I'm the guy that like, I don't even like talking to a lot of people.
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People think I'm very social guy, but I'd rather not talk to anybody because I like to observe.
And I, and I noticed, you know, how those energies flows, what the woman is,
if it's a guy, like the speaker is talking, what is his wife doing?
How is she like, like all those little things. I love that.
I want to hear more what you think about, like, what's your perspective on the
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business world as a woman and all that stuff.
The cool stuff. Give me the good sauce, the good stuff from your perspective.
I think we've come a long ways.
So I, how long ago was this?
I was in the work force working for a company here in Utah.
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They were a big company, had a lot of diet and beauty products.
And I worked in the marketing department and had to work with a couple men. men.
That was interesting. And I don't feel like I felt a lot of respect.
I mean, I respected them, but just the way they treated you was a little condescending.
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So that was a long time ago. That was like 15, 16 years ago. We've come a long ways.
I feel a lot more respect from men towards women women in, hey,
they can do this. They're smart.
They're talented. You see a lot of husbands kind of their wife is the breadwinner
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and they're like, dang, you can do really well.
So yeah, I think we've come a long ways as a society for sure. Yeah, I agree.
I think just the differences in men and women, right?
Men are far more logical and women are far more emotional, right?
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It goes back to the hunters and the gatherers.
The men just went and got the food where the women had to be very specific, right?
With their weaving the baskets, with nurturing, with navigating exactly how
to explain where they found the berries and all of that. It's this hunter-gatherer thing.
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And I do think, like Tiffany said, we have come a long ways.
I experienced something actually in my marriage.
I started a company and I had to work and I had to work hard.
And so I remember it caused friction because the house duties weren't getting
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done like they were previously.
Right. And then so he saw me kind of stepping more in my masculine and having
more success and taking on that role, and it caused friction.
Right? And so I think men should be supportive if a female has a goal and a
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vision to create something. thing.
I think some are good at supporting and some are not.
You know, that's, that's interesting because I've dated girls that,
you know, like they don't have a business.
They just live in their life and all that cool stuff.
And it was cool.
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It was fun, but it was like, you know, And I couldn't explain them the lifestyle,
especially when you're on the building stage.
Like, dude, I got to pay the bills. I got employees. I got no other option.
I'm not collecting a paycheck here every two weeks.
But I also, now I understand because I have coaches right now that help me with relationships.
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Even though I don't have a, I'm not married, I'm not dating anybody,
I'm prepping myself for that.
And I made that mistake. And then one time I dated a woman that was too much on her masculine.
And that was bad. Very beautiful woman.
Like, and I will tell her you're so freaking hot, but you're on your masculine.
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And she was, she was in this world, like corporate, you know, woman.
And I get it. I'm like, you have to be that way because you're in that world.
But as a man, I was like, I can't engage a very beautiful woman.
So I struggle with that. I've struggled with both. Now I kind of have a balance.
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I also understand as a man, I got to open up my woman emotionally and all that.
It's not like, yeah, you do this this way, all of that.
I understand all of that. But I've had very interesting things happen because of that.
Yeah. So you're attracted to the... And this goes back to balance again,
right? Exactly. Balance.
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I'm attracted to a little bit of both. Right. And that's where balance is so important.
So we obviously have to run in our masculine, but we are so balanced where we
still take care of ourselves. We still do the feminine things.
And we're in the beauty industry. Yeah. Right. But yes, I love the balance.
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See when I was married I was a
stay-at-home mom I ran in my feminine when
I got divorced I immediately had to
figure out how to make that switch and go into
my masculine because now I'm the provider now I don't have a husband to say
hey can you come you know like paint this wall for me or change this light bulb
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or fix the TV or do yard work. Now it's all me.
Now I have to take on the feminine and the masculine role.
And so it was this huge switch that I had to learn to run in that masculine.
And I did that for a while.
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And now I feel like I've been able to kind of
hone back and find a
better balance for myself for sure because I love
being feminine I love it we kind
of talked about we're both a little
masculine yeah right yeah yeah because we don't get our feelings hurt very easily
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oh yeah right let's talk about that yeah I like that so yeah one One thing my
mother-in-law noticed about me very soon was...
Like you're kind of the, I'm not the man in the relationship.
Like my husband is very manly. He's got big muscles, like lots of testosterone going on there.
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But my dad actually raised me.
So I just have a different personality.
I like the drama. I'm not into that. Like you just, because I think my dad raised
me, it was like, you didn't have time for the emotions.
Like, no, you just do it.
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Yeah. Like you just go to work and do it. Like you don't whine. There's no crying.
Like there's no crying in baseball, you know, that phrase.
But yeah, so he raised me and I'm just like a little bit tougher.
So yeah, I don't know if you feel the same way. No, I appreciate that. Yeah. Right.
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I don't know, Rainey, do you find girls to be emotional? Emotional,
maybe, let's just throw it out there.
Emotionally weak. Like they cry. Well, I don't. Get their feelings hurt. Well, here's the thing.
I've learned, and this is what I've learned from my own personal experience,
that when a man has a mission, a purpose, takes care of business,
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and you can open up your woman, you know, you make her feel safe.
And I've had to work on that. Because there's been relationships that I'm like,
dude, I really wanted to work that out.
But guess what? I had to look at the man in the mirror and I'm like,
dude, I fucked up on some things too. It was not just her.
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I had just as much fall as she did.
And I've realized that, you know, emotions don't get me.
Too too crazy because i mean my one of
my employees she's a girl so she's actually helping me
right now be a better leader because the way i
talk to ozzy and coach ozzy it's not the same way i'm talking to to sierra like
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it's completely different i go deeper with her emotions i use different words
like i can't be like right to the point like how i go with ozzy it's completely
and And I even tell her, hey,
you're making me a better leader. I'm learning because of you.
So, yeah, some women are emotional. But I also feel like, you know,
as what I've seen as you start climbing the ladder of success,
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whatever that may be to people.
But for me, it's like you start attracting more of what you want and less of what you don't want.
And I really focus on that. So if I start, I don't put up with a lot of things.
Like you know give people some passes but it's very
few because for example like i don't know
like dating right now is wild that's why
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i don't i don't do no dating apps i'll just i was literally
talking to one of my friends today about this is like he was are you dating
on my bro i'm just like living my life and see if i meet somebody along the
way but it's like you do like dating girls girls around my age and a little
younger is wild because they're like, they're all over the place.
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They have a lot of like baggage. And I'm not saying I don't have any,
but at least I'm working through them. I can admit like, hey,
yeah, I messed up or something.
But a lot of people can't do that. And it's hard.
So, yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
I don't date at all.
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What is that heather no she's not
ready some of the guys are gonna be
listening to this i'm just i'm just i
you know we care about growing our company and like
you said if it happens it if it happens it happens right yeah and that's part
of the balance balance of life recognizing what you can take on yeah right and
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not right taking too much on with relationships business business.
Yeah. Being smart about it and timing.
And I learned that this year, like.
So like I was telling you off camera. So this year I gave my life to God. I found God.
Like I literally now I have a relationship with God, Jesus, all that.
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And one of my biggest thing was woman. I love woman.
But I was like, you know what? After I started learning all this stuff,
like I'm on a one year Bible program right now.
I'm about to finish here in January and next year I'm going to be serving.
Serving, but one of the things, the rules that they had, it was like,
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no sex, no drugs, and no living with your partners if you're not married.
And I read the rules and I told the pastor of my church, I'm like,
I ain't going to join this program because I'm doing every single one of these
things that I'm not supposed to be doing.
He said, dude, just come, join, God will change you. I'm like, yeah, whatever. Yeah.
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I was going through my life, you know, dating and all of that.
And, you know, I actually did a podcast, which is my most listened episode ever,
which is, I don't know who's listening to that, but it was called Celibacy,
No Porn, No Jackie, No Sex, No Woman. Oh, I saw that title.
Yeah. Yeah. And I went through that because I used to think that my personal
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life wouldn't affect my business life.
I was like, yeah, I can have all the fun in my personal life.
And then once in the business, it's like I'm a new man. man.
And it was not true. And I, after learning what I was learning at church and
all that, I'm like, you know what? I'm going to give this thing a try.
And then I did it. I literally, I became a celibate man.
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And I was like good for like almost four months.
And I'm telling you, I was a different man. I'm still celibate.
I'm still walking that path.
I had one hiccup one one-timing, I was very public about it,
like, because I want to help other guys, too.
Because guys don't talk about this. They keep it on the back.
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And, man, it was the, like, literally this summer was the best summer of my
life. My business grew. I was sharp.
My employees were like, they were like, dude, what's different about you?
And it was, I can tell you it was because of that.
It was truly because I was like,
I'm not going to, I'm going to treat my personal life like it's a temple.
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And you've changed the whole thing for me.
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And we kind of agree like spiritual health is
very important and vital.
And those areas bleed in to different aspects like of your business.
Like if your spiritual health isn't good, if your mental health isn't good,
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that's going to affect your work life and your business as well.
So going back to balance, right?
All these things just have to be, all of them have to have, you have to pay
attention to each of them.
Yeah, and I'm a firm believer that we are energy.
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We are these godlike quantum energetic beings.
And when we are true to who we are as a being and are in total energetic alignment within ourselves,
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then everything can flow in life.
So perhaps when we do things that are against who we are as a being naturally,
it can cause friction in business and our relationships and our finances and everything.
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So maybe this path you went on just put you back into that, right?
Like this God-like energetic being.
A hundred percent. Right? That now everything in life just flows effortlessly.
A hundred percent. You're just in continuous flow state. Yeah.
And one thing that like, as I was walking this path, it doesn't mean that it gets easier.
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Like it's actually, I have a lot of challenges. Like, you know, I get it.
Life, it's hard. Yeah. But what I realized is that if I'm in that constant alignment,
those bumps, I can get out of them super quick.
Before, these things will drag on weeks, months, years. Now it's like,
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oh, I'm having an off day.
Okay, let me switch back up. And then I'll start like worshiping or I go walk the dog.
I do little things. I have things
in place that bring me back to who I know I am and it flows so good.
A thousand percent. We were actually just talking yesterday.
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Have you read The Untethered Soul?
No. What's it called? Yeah. Listen to this if you haven't or read it.
The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer.
Okay. So he talks about that very specific thing, allowing all energy to flow
into the heart and flow out of the heart, including positive energy.
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And so when you practice keeping your heart open always and letting the bad things that,
come to us that happen in all areas of life, letting those come in energetically
and then then letting them flow out energetically, as well as the good.
I mean, how many times have you heard someone talk about their glory days back
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in college? And it was 20 years ago.
You know what I mean? It's also letting the good moments in our life flow into
the heart and flow out of the heart.
And so you're constantly remaining open.
So there. Right. Which allows you to be in consistent and continuous alignment.
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That's really good. Do you have anything to add to that? Yeah,
maybe just to add to that, like, yeah, not getting stuck in the past.
I think a lot of us can. Oh, I was this, that, or the other.
I'll never do better. Of course you will, like, keep trying and growing.
And a lot of spirituality is, it's not about perfection, but it's about trying.
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So like even when you make mistakes, that's okay.
People will get so stuck on that and not let that go. Oh, I made this mistake.
I'm not worthy. I'm worthless.
That's not true. This life is a growing experience.
Like allow yourself to make mistakes and then keep working on yourself. Keep growing.
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It's a process. It's not going to happen really fast. And that's okay.
And you would say that, you know, part of all this alignment,
it flows back into the business, right?
Into your creations, the ideas, like, yeah, we need to do this. We need to do all of that.
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Like, it flows into that. A thousand percent.
Oh, yeah, a thousand percent. And what's interesting, right,
as you stay in that flow space.
People you need just magically appear in your life. Have you had that?
It's like I was showering today and we really needed a particular statement.
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And so I was just like in this flow state kind of manifesting and thinking all
the things and really trying to stay true and honest to me at all times.
And I got out of the shower and there was a text message with the exact statement I needed.
That's awesome. Yeah. That's so cool. And it just happens. And so I think that
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goes to show your positivity.
Sorry, speaking into the mic here.
Positivity is such an important thing to me.
I do not do well with negativity or people that are negative.
I am always like the glass is half full type of girl.
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Me too. I can't stand people like that. Oh, yeah.
Like, it's just like they just bring you down. Even if you say that,
yeah, it doesn't affect me. It does. It does.
So, well, I have my own men's mastermind. So we meet the last Thursday of every
month. Why can't women come, Rainey?
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I can, I'll answer you that. So actually, that's a good question.
Boys only. I love to answer that question. The female-only group.
Yes. Starts next Thursday. Do it.
I'll be your keynote speaker for the Thursday. Yeah, okay.
So I'll tell you why it's only men's because I go to a lot of masterminds and
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business and stuff. And, you know, it's all transactional.
You do this, I do that. We work.
I was like, yeah, I like that. It's cool. There's nothing bad about that.
But I wanted to start something that I can bring...
Some of my friends and people that I don't know, they invite some of their friends.
And yeah, I bring a keynote speaker. I've had Sean Finnegan.
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Last Thursday, we had two pastors, his wife and him speak.
I've had a bunch of very successful people at different levels. And they talk.
But the purpose of the mastermind is to have a brotherhood of men that help
each other and we keep each other accountable.
So and I'm I've been very open like
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I tell guys hey some of the struggles that
I've dealt with they're on my podcast but if you want to go deeper this is where
we talk so we all break off and I encourage them if you have you know if you're
struggling with pornography if you're cheating on your wife like what stays
in the room stays in the room but I have good people in the room that That could help you out.
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So I don't have just Christian guys. I have some successful friends.
That one of my best friends. He's been married for like 40 years.
Scott Travis. He's the one that painted that Jesus.
And all this other stuff that I have here. Same thing. He has a relationship group.
For a married couple. And it's
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five grand. If you want to one-on-one with him. But I get him in the room.
And he helps other people. So it's all about that. And a lot of guys that probably
won't feel comfortable talking about that in front of a woman.
So I want to create a safe space that let's talk about it and see how we can help you.
And you have some brothers that can, you know, be like, hey,
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bro, like, that's not you. Like, get your shit together, man.
So that's what it's only meant. I love that. Yeah. And I love that,
especially because you're helping men also talk about their emotions.
You're helping them do that. And a lot of men struggle to talk about their emotions.
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And so that will affect your marriage, right?
If you're in a marriage where you can't openly express yourself and talk about
your emotions and really talk about how you're feeling, that is going to cause issues.
And so I love what you're doing because perhaps now they can go home home and
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practice that with their wives.
That is one thing that's huge. Me and my ex-husband, we talked about this actually
in a video post-divorce where had we been able to,
really, really express how we felt and see the other person's perspective,
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perspective right it probably would have saved our marriage so all these men if they can go home,
share openly and honestly with their wives how
they're feeling and she has the ability to understand him where he's at and
he can understand her that will save most marriages alone wow i am a firm believer
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in that that's true but you have to be able to understand the other person's reality.
Right? Because the way you just heard what that person said is totally different
than the person right next to you.
Right? You both heard the same message, but you decoded that message differently. Yeah.
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So you need to understand how the other person, right, is decoding the messages.
It's all about communication.
Absolutely. And you're right about that. A lot of guys struggle with that.
They struggle with it because it goes back to that they gotta keep that persona
that they have it all figured out and literally i tell the guys here like your ego stays out the door,
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or you ain't coming back here yep because i
i don't need i don't need another front i
can go to another mastermind and get that yeah this is
a different type of mastermind you will get the business deals like
i will put successful people in the room but that's
the least the last thing i want to do talk about
just business because what i've noticed from my own
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personal experience going back to you know being aligned
the moment i started getting aligned dude i i could connect with anybody like
the the the connections were just right in front of me so imagine if you give
because it happens i've had it with a few members like you you give somebody
the tools but they're They're not aligned.
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They're not, you know, like they're just, they have too much chaos going on.
They're not going to be able to apply anything at all.
So, yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Maybe I should have you ladies one time come and
just speak to these men. Well, I'll go talk to those men.
We can give you some perspective on women. I think. Do it, please.
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Guys, pay attention, please. Oh, boy.
Write it down. it's it's it's like
safety and security i mean that's number
one for women they want to feel safe and
secure in the relationship so and
heard yeah and heard so do we we could do a whole nother i know we got where
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i think men want to feel appreciated yeah that's true you know what i mean it's
like that's true we all kind of want these different things and so it's really
important to communicate about this.
I mean, I could go all day because I've been divorced and now I can see where I fell short.
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Like I take full accountability.
Relationships are always two-sided. Absolutely. It's never just one person.
Well, that was a plus. That was a bonus because that was not even on the agenda. No, yeah.
So that was good. Thank you for that. Thank you for giving me and all whoever
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guys listening to this that feminine perspective on how things are,
you know, because we were talking about it.
A lot of guys just hold everything back and they're like, yeah, she's crazy.
She's like, you know, I get it. Like guys, sometimes we're all over the place as well.
But what I've noticed, kind of what we talked about, the behind the scenes,
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is that a lot of these guys, they have a big ego.
And then the ego doesn't allow them to be like, hey, you know what?
Maybe I'm not right about that.
Maybe I need to just kind of like be quiet and just listen.
So give her the mic. Sorry. Give her the mic, please.
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But I'm going to talk both sides. Yeah, go ahead.
All right. So I've been divorced 15 months now. Okay.
My ex was a doctor, a very successful one.
Okay. So a surgical prosthodontist.
Just rebuilt your mouth. So incredible man.
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Love him. so as he
was going through schooling and then starting a practice and
that comes with a lot of debt right he was really struggling okay and you have
a lot of business owners and probably a lot of wealthy business owners that
listen to this podcast okay so i thought during the course of our marriage, everything was okay.
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I thought he was okay. I thought business was okay.
I thought, you know, everything was great because that's what I was told.
And then as our marriage was ending,
he opened up and shared that for years he was waking up in the middle of the
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night with like cold sweats, hot sweats,
having heart palpitations, extremely stressed, extremely overwhelmed,
just had this massive dark cloud over him.
Him, you know, you know, scared to pay this amount of debt off that he had,
like all of these things that he was feeling that he kept in that I never knew about ever for years.
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And so when I would act in my daily life and maybe go spend money,
you know, and then he He would get upset that I spent money,
but I only heard that things were great, but yet that triggered him, right?
Because I was spending money. And so now he's becoming resentful and angry because
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of the things I'm doing, right?
And so had I had known that he was struggling so much emotionally and internally,
I could I could have been a better support for him.
I could have shown him love.
I could have changed my actions and the things I was doing. Right.
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Spend less money. Show more appreciation.
Right. I could have completely adjusted my behavior to help him feel differently.
Supported, appreciated, all of those things. Right. Right.
And and so not saying that that was wrong, but a lot of men don't communicate and share reality.
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And then that causes divorce. Yeah.
Right. And so I would just say communicate.
And then wives.
This is super important for females. Super, super important.
We have to hear them
right we have to give them a
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safe space to share and they have to feel appreciated and you want your man
to feel appreciated right and supported yeah 100 yeah and so like be good to
your men right and support them and stand behind them like had i known so so many things,
I would have done so many things differently, right?
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But females need to understand what their husbands are going through.
Because we're starting a company and it is hard work. You work all day.
You work all night. You're stressed.
You got to pay bills. You got to do all these things, right?
Yeah. And so the wives really need to be able to understand what they're going through.
Yeah. And support them through that.
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So good. That's my GD. No, no. That makes a lot of sense because actually we
talked a little bit about it on my men's mastermind this month.
The topic was family. family and and then
the two pastors they're obviously they're married and
before they moved to Utah they run
a very successful business and all of that and I got going back to my other
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friend Scott Travis same thing he's run multiple eight-figure companies and
then he moved to Utah now he's an artist and there's a common factor on those
two relationships and the ones that I've I've seen that work.
It's like the woman, they're open with their woman. They tell them,
hey, this is what's going on. This is where the business is.
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They got access to their world. It doesn't mean that she goes,
tells, hey, you need to do that this way.
She just knows, she's aware what's going on and she can give an input.
And then from that, okay, we'll see how we move.
So I've noticed after you saying that, I'm like, oh dude, Scott talked about
it. The pastor talked about it. So So it makes sense.
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It makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Yeah. So.
I don't have the same experience because my husband's a mental health therapist.
So he shares a little too much.
He's very in touch. Very open. I know exactly what he's feeling.
I can't relate. You can't make a woman happy.
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Share too much, don't share at all. What's the balance? I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know what the balance is. I would say to over-communicate, if anything.
Absolutely. I mean, because, yeah, if you're if and that's where I,
my fault has been is just holding stuff in and not saying anything.
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And I'll just do it. I'll just get the things done.
I'll just do it. So instead of just learning, I think a lot of women do this.
There's a lot of passive aggressiveness where we don't just say what we want.
Just say it ask for it it
took me a long time yeah to do that
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and feel comfortable doing that yeah so
yeah well that's literally like that's i got a buddy of mine we did a podcast
one time and we talked about like a lot of women like they just don't tell you
what they want yeah i'm like dude just tell me what do you want i worked all
day like these fly-ins were We're like crazy today.
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My employees are like, just tell me what you want, please.
Because I don't know. I don't know. You can answer this, but you don't know, right?
We don't think the same. I think we expect men to just know what we want.
And maybe this sounds mean, but they just don't.
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Unless you specifically, and I don't know. No, I hate that because I guess I feel like a nag.
But, you know, asking, I need this, this, this, and this. But if you don't ask it,
I had a dating coach and we used to talk about it.
Do I need to get one of those? But honestly, I've tried everything because I'm
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telling you, once that woman comes into my life, I've done the work.
That's awesome. And I'm still doing the work. She better be doing it too.
That's what I'm saying. Yes. I ain't putting up with. Oh, no.
I'm not putting up with BS. Me neither, Rainey. No BS allowed.
Dude, we go to the same masterminds. I see you everywhere. We are aligned in that. Work on yourself.
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You have to work on yourself. But my coach or the dating coach,
he used to say, men are like dogs.
You tell us, sit, we sit.
Move, we move. Treat, we eat the treat.
And he would say, women are like cats. You can't chase them because if you try to grab the cat,
it's going gonna run away so he had this crazy analogy
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like women are like cats men are like
dogs yeah okay so hey in
a lot of ways for sure i i mean i love this conversation like i'm like it was
not playing guys but for the boys out there you're gonna get a lot of game apply
that and your dms are gonna be like exploding i'm telling you just communicate
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you know what though i think a lot of people People, though,
don't say what they want because they don't know what they want.
Yeah. That's a whole nother podcast, though, right? A lot of people don't have
any idea what they want. That's true.
You know what? Right? Well, that's true. It's like how many times have you asked
a girl, well, where do you want to go out to eat? Well, I don't care.
I don't do that. Well, I don't know. You don't? No. I make the plans.
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Oh, see? That's manly. Men make your plans. This is the time.
This is where we're going. Yeah. What if I don't want that, though?
See? I'm throwing up. Then you say it.
Doesn't happen a lot. Instead of resenting him, then you say,
no, let's go somewhere else. Otherwise, you'll resent him. Yeah.
That's literally what happens.
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Yeah. See, we can't make you girls happy, man. I'm teasing. There's not a winning. I am teasing.
I'm just giving you crap. No, like, you know, I like to, like, lead. I'm a leader.
I'm not saying, like, yeah, you got to do it this way. But especially,
like, right now where I'm at, I don't have a lot of free time.
So if I make plans with somebody, like I'm going to be there,
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I'm going to show up like it's prepared,
you know, it's like we're not wondering like, oh, I wonder if Johnny or whoever
that person, whoever you're hanging out with is going to show up like,
and that's what I like because I treat my personal life like business too.
Like if I have, I have a client, I put it on my calendar, I know they're gonna show up, I'm prepared.
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Same thing with my personal life. Like put it on my calendar,
I show up, I'm prepared. I'm not messing around.
Cause they're not- Yeah, you don't have time for that, man. Like if not,
you're like, what are we doing here? Right, yeah. Yeah, we were just talking
about that being reliable.
So I don't even know where we are.
We got we got a little bit of time. I want to I want to get into for you,
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Heather, because I know you you love to travel.
You know, you travel a lot. Like I like traveling. I haven't been doing it in
a while, not just because of work.
But what's what like I mean, I think I know why you love traveling.
But what do you like traveling and what's the favorite place you've been to?
What does it do when you leave town and just like experiencing things?
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Like I knew you were in Peru one time and checking things out.
Because I know like I'm from Venezuela.
People here in America, they think like the world is this until you go to another
place and you realize that, dude, we're so fortunate here.
I'm assuming that does an impact in your life. So just kind of want to talk a little bit about that.
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Sure. Sure. So I run my life off of experience.
So I love experiences. So my kids for birthdays or Christmases,
I create experiences for them instead of buying things because that far outlasts
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anything tangible that can be bought.
And so there's lots of reasons why I like to travel, but a change of environment is huge.
When you go and put yourself in a different environment, it literally changes
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the physiology in your mind.
So when you're going on and standing on a beach beach at the ocean and it's just warm and sunny,
the way you feel in that environment is far different than standing up in our
snowy mountains. Would you agree?
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A hundred percent. Right. And so inserting yourself into different environments
will, it will change you. Yeah.
It will change And so, yes, I was just in Peru and that completely changed me.
That was a very spiritual change.
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Trip per se. And in that two weeks I was there, I basically fell in love with me. I became one with me.
Peru is like a magical land. It's just like a blessed country. It's a blessed land.
And so the experience I had there and the connection I acquired within myself
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was a life-changing engaging experience, right?
Versus like when I buzzed down to Mexico for the weekend, right?
That's just like relaxing and amazing and the sun on your face or scuba diving.
So you can just, this world is so full of rich, I don't know,
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experiences and beliefs that I believe all of us need to see. So good.
Yeah. What's your favorite place you've been to? you peru oh
my gosh i love probably australia oh you've been there i've been there did you
fight i'd like to africa too but like australia for me was just such a magical
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country everyone is nice,
no matter where you go in the country it's clean people are
just respectful they take care of themselves the foods organic and delicious
i dove the great barrier reef so just being it's magical i don't know so good
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do you do you have a favorite place you'd like to go or you've been to.
I love Hawaii. Oh, I've been there one time. It was really fun.
It's, yeah, I've been twice.
It's been my favorite place so far. And you're right. Our country just here is beautiful.
There's so many things to explore.
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I feel like I've explored our country a lot, just in Utah.
Like you can find a spot every weekend and just be in awe of the beauty that
is here. There's this place that I want to go here in Utah.
It's like this cave and there's like a, not a river, but like a,
it looks like a pool, but it's not a pool.
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And then there's like a hole in the ceiling or the cave and you can look through the sky.
Like it's like a, I have to look it up. Where is that? Like Pelican? No, it's down south.
It's like, there's a lot of TikTokers that do a lot of content there.
The water's like blue, blue.
It's here in Utah and it's like it's a cave and you jump in it's the water it's
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like super pretty and then you can look and there's like a hole and you just
look at the sky and I don't know if it's man-made but I don't think so because
it looks like not man-made at all but amazing,
find out I want to go there's a lot I'm all over that right yeah there's a lot
of places you can talk oh for sure,
don't tell anybody though we shouldn't even be talking no No,
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we're not talking about Utah.
We'll tell Lisa, my guy, just to pick up. Yeah, just slice it out.
But what I do want to say is like traveling makes me live in such a space of
gratitude. When I was in Africa.
I went to what you would view Africa as.
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So we went there. I mean, sewage running down the middle, no kids with hardly
any clothes on, kind of that picture you get, right, of when you think of a foreign country.
Yeah. We spent the afternoon there.
Literally 30 minutes later, I was standing inside Gucci.
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What's that? Gucci, like Gucci, Gucci. Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Like surrounded by Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Dior.
Literally, that's how close the slums of Africa are to just,
right, complete wealth.
And so to experience something like that, going from people who live with nothing
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to people who live with, quote, everything,
right, it literally gives you such a strong perspective about who you are, right?
And living in a space of complete gratitude and oneness every single day of your life.
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Gratitude for the abundant lives we live here. So good. Perspective. Yeah, perspective.
Well, ladies, I want to honor your time. Is there anything you want to plug
in here? I know you had some notes.
We're good. We're good? Yeah. Yeah. So lastly, one of the last questions that
I ask every guest that comes into the podcast is right now in your current situation,
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what's something that you're grateful for?
And it could be multiple things. It doesn't have to be one thing.
But right now, where you are, what are you grateful for?
Just talked about this. Yes.
With some friends. But the number one thing for me is my healthy body.
I just really appreciate that because it allows me to take care of my kids,
(01:05:54):
run a business, do all the things that I need to do. So I'm extremely grateful for that.
I'm also grateful for family and just those connections and relationships.
And then what was the third thing? Oh, just
living in a modern modern world with
all the modern things a car a
(01:06:17):
car to drive you somewhere i mean like you
have to ride a horse anywhere my grandpa rode a horse to
school that wasn't that long ago and
just to think of all the things that we have so i'm super grateful for
that and we don't have to live like a pioneer i
know that's really good i even think about that that's yeah that's the
first like that's the first one that i'm like wow that's shocking because
(01:06:40):
yeah it's like it's in our our everyday life we just
kind of take it for granted yeah right first thing
honestly that comes to my mind is is my kids but also
to be honest like what I'm most well not most but what I'm really grateful for
right now in my life is awareness like I'm super grateful that I am aware of my life.
(01:07:09):
Like I lived in a space of numbness for quite some time where just I wasn't
ever happy. I wasn't ever sad.
I just kind of ran through the emotions of life.
You know, you just kind of wake up, go to the gym, take care of kids,
clean the house, go to bed with your husband, and the cycle repeats, right?
A lot of people just live in this state of numbness, you know, I call it.
(01:07:34):
And I I lived with no joy, but no sadness.
And so I'm so grateful that I've worked on myself and my mindset and my spirituality.
My relationships, just myself in general, to where I'm aware of my emotions and I get to feel them.
(01:07:55):
I get to feel the joy. I get to feel the pain. I get to feel everything in my life right now.
And I'm actually, I'm extremely grateful for that.
Wow, that's really good. That's so good.
That like both of you guys's answers like i don't
even think about like because i ask this to everybody but i'm
like huh you're making me think even more and
(01:08:17):
i appreciate that because i i i do
this podcast just to to have interesting
conversations like yeah sometimes yeah we
have a plan like we could talk about the business and
all that but it goes back to what we were talking talking about we're
not aligned we can't do anything we
it will be you're kind of going to be forcing it if people
(01:08:38):
can really understand like that whatever you
want to get or achieving life it comes with the alignment that you have to get
and that alignment most of the time is not even easy it's probably very very
hard because you're going to have to do things that you don't want to do so
i'm grateful for for having you ladies here before i let you guys go and honor
or your time, where can people find you?
(01:09:01):
Plug in your socials, plug in your website, your social security number,
your Venmo, credit card, whatever you want.
Venmo for sure. Yeah, we'll for sure add the Venmo and my, yeah,
my phone number for, I accept Apple Pay.
Oh, there we go. There we go.
Yeah, right. No, like Tiff said, Bella Marque, which is B-E-L-L-A Marque,
(01:09:25):
M-A-R-Q-U-E, E because it is kind of a long, hard thing.
Bellamarkaycosmetics.com. And then Instagram will be Bellamarkaycosmetics.
And then our YouTube is, it's Beauty Binge. Awesome. What about you, Heather?
Hey, I'm with her. So same info. Same info.
(01:09:47):
Yeah, same info. All right, cool. Just making sure.
All right, guys. Well, thank you for listening to this episode.
There was a lot of wisdom in there, especially, you know, We had a game plan,
but we kind of went on a different route, but it was a good route.
I don't think we've really talked about this a whole lot here on the GMRT experience,
(01:10:08):
but I would encourage you guys to go back and re-listen to some of this stuff
because a lot of the things that we're setting here and what the ladies were talking about,
apply it in your life, and you're going to see what it's going to do to you
and make you happier. Make you happier. Get aligned.
People need to be more aligned. right now get aligned
the world needs that yeah yeah hashtag get aligned
(01:10:31):
and hey rainy thank you for having us thank you ladies
for coming i've loved getting to know you over the last year so thank you i
love being with you thank you not me too and i'm excited to see the growth of
your company i know it's going to be super successful you guys power feminine
power in there so all right guys we'll see you next time peace bye.
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