September 6, 2025 • 31 mins
In this gripping conclusion to our "Attention Wars" series, The Gray Files delves into the dark heart of modern political manipulation. Episode 17, "The Ideology Factory," reveals how sophisticated systems transform ordinary people into ideological soldiers willing to sacrifice personal relationships for a cause. We explore the industrial-scale deployment of psychological warfare, dissecting how language becomes a weapon and how the human need to belong to a tribe is exploited to create political addicts. Through the powerful story of Charlie and Rachel, we show you the true cost of this invisible war: fractured families and a broken social fabric. Learn to identify the dark psychology once used by intelligence agencies and cults, now used by media and political organizations to control populations. This episode isn't just about them; it's about you. Discover how to resist the manipulation and reclaim your mind.
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Welcome back to episode
seventeen of The Gray Files, (00:04):
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Speaker: where we peel back the layers of technology, economics, data (00:08):
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Speaker: effort to try and understand this vast and often perplexing (00:19):
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Speaker: world we live in. (00:23):
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Speaker: I'm your host, Erika Barker, and (00:26):
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Speaker: tonight we're concluding our (00:29):
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Speaker: three part series on the (00:31):
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Speaker: attention wars by examining the (00:33):
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Speaker: darkest chapter of all, how (00:36):
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Speaker: ordinary people like you and me (00:39):
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Speaker: are systematically transformed (00:43):
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Speaker: into ideological warriors (00:45):
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Speaker: willing to sacrifice family, (00:47):
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Speaker: friends and their own well-being (00:50):
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Speaker: for causes they may not (00:54):
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Speaker: consciously understand. (00:56):
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Speaker: We're sorry. (01:00):
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Speaker: You have reached a number that has been disconnected or is no (01:00):
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Speaker: longer in service. (01:03):
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Speaker: Your brother won't return your calls. (01:06):
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Speaker: Your sister blocks you online. (01:10):
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Speaker: And the reason isn't money, love or old family drama. (01:14):
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Speaker: It's politics. (01:20):
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Speaker: But not politics has debate politics as identity, as (01:22):
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Speaker: religion, as infection. (01:28):
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Speaker: How far can these systems take you before you stop being (01:32):
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Speaker: yourself, before you become something else, an instrument (01:36):
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Speaker: and someone else's war? (01:42):
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Speaker: And that is the question at the heart of tonight's episode. (01:44):
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Speaker: We've already seen how algorithms reel us in like fish (01:50):
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Speaker: on a line, and how psychological tricks can quietly rewire the (01:54):
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Speaker: way we think. (01:59):
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Speaker: Tonight we go bigger. (02:01):
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Speaker: We step inside the factory where those tricks get industrialized (02:03):
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Speaker: and deployed at scale by politicians, media organizations (02:08):
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Speaker: and networks that treat your mind as raw clay to be molded. (02:13):
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Speaker: And make no mistake, my friends, (02:19):
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Speaker: this isn't just Charlie and (02:21):
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Speaker: Rachel's story. (02:24):
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Speaker: It's yours. (02:25):
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Speaker: The same words, the same emotional triggers, the same (02:27):
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Speaker: invisible pressures that reprogrammed them are pressing (02:32):
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Speaker: against you right now. (02:36):
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Speaker: And every headline you read and every scroll you make. (02:39):
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Speaker: If that sounds abstract, it isn't. (02:44):
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Speaker: Charlie and Rachel Patterson are fictionalized composites that (02:47):
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Speaker: reflect a pattern many Americans are living right now. (02:51):
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Speaker: Tonight, we now find Charlie and (02:56):
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Speaker: Rachel Patterson at the end of (02:59):
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Speaker: their transformation. (03:02):
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Speaker: What they've become. (03:04):
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Speaker: Shows us the true cost of the attention wars. (03:05):
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Speaker: Part one the recruit becomes the recruiter. (03:11):
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Speaker: By twenty twenty three, something fundamental had (03:18):
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Speaker: shifted in how Charlie and Rachel related to politics. (03:22):
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Speaker: Charlie wasn't just watching (03:27):
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Speaker: conservative content anymore, he (03:29):
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Speaker: was actually making it his (03:32):
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Speaker: YouTube channel. (03:35):
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Speaker: Real Talk from Real America had thirty thousand subscribers who (03:36):
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Speaker: tuned in each week to hear how liberal institutions had ripped (03:42):
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Speaker: his family apart. (03:47):
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Speaker: His trauma had been alchemised (03:49):
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Speaker: into a brand, a story repackaged (03:51):
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Speaker: as bait. (03:55):
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Speaker: Each video followed the same choreography first. (03:57):
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Speaker: Credibility through personal experience. (04:02):
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Speaker: I'm not some pundit. (04:06):
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Speaker: I'm a farmer who lost his sister (04:07):
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Speaker: to liberal brainwashing, then (04:10):
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Speaker: emotional connection through (04:13):
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Speaker: shared grievance. (04:15):
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Speaker: Maybe you've experienced something similar. (04:17):
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Speaker: Finally, the ideological frame. (04:21):
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Speaker: This is what happens when woke ideology infiltrates families. (04:24):
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Speaker: None of this was deliberate. (04:31):
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Speaker: Charlie wasn't reading propaganda manuals. (04:33):
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Speaker: He had unconsciously absorbed the same persuasion techniques (04:37):
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Speaker: once used on him social proof, fear, association, cognitive (04:42):
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Speaker: closure, and was now deploying them against his own audience. (04:48):
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Speaker: Rachel's journey ran the same rails in the opposite direction. (04:55):
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Speaker: Her podcast Resistance Stories (04:59):
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Speaker: reframed her pain into (05:03):
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Speaker: progressive ammunition. (05:05):
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Speaker: The twins weren't just consumers anymore, they were distributors. (05:08):
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Speaker: The manipulated had become the (05:14):
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Speaker: manipulators, and their personal (05:16):
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Speaker: suffering had been turned into a (05:19):
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Speaker: weapon pointed at society (05:21):
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Speaker: itself. (05:24):
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Speaker: Part two the Language virus. (05:27):
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Speaker: To understand how manipulation (05:31):
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Speaker: scales, we have to examine how (05:34):
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Speaker: language itself becomes a (05:36):
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Speaker: weapon. (05:38):
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Speaker: So back in the nineteen nineties, political consultant (05:39):
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Speaker: Frank Luntz pioneered what he called language engineering, (05:43):
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Speaker: testing phrases to see which words shifted public opinion. (05:49):
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Speaker: A tax increase became revenue enhancement. (05:55):
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Speaker: Government spending became investment in America's future. (06:00):
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Speaker: The policy didn't change, but the framing determined whether (06:05):
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Speaker: people cheered or recoiled. (06:10):
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Speaker: Today, Luntz's methods have been supercharged by artificial (06:14):
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Speaker: intelligence and oceans of social media data. (06:19):
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Speaker: Algorithms now test thousands of (06:25):
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Speaker: variations in real time across (06:28):
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Speaker: millions of users, discovering (06:30):
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Speaker: which words spark, rage, loyalty (06:33):
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Speaker: or fear, and different (06:37):
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Speaker: psychological profiles. (06:38):
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Speaker: The result is what researchers (06:41):
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Speaker: call linguistic viruses phrases (06:43):
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Speaker: designed not for truth, but for (06:47):
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Speaker: emotional punch and viral (06:49):
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Speaker: Think of terms like woke ideology. (06:53):
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Speaker: Each is a capsule carrying assumptions, emotions, and (06:57):
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Speaker: behavioral cues that bypass rational thought and go straight (07:03):
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Speaker: to the gut. (07:09):
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Speaker: When Charlie said liberal (07:11):
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Speaker: brainwashing or Rachel warned (07:13):
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Speaker: about conservative extremism, (07:15):
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Speaker: they weren't just voicing (07:18):
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Speaker: opinions. (07:19):
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Speaker: They were spreading engineered (07:21):
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Speaker: phrases tested and refined in (07:22):
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Speaker: political laboratories before (07:26):
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Speaker: being injected to look (07:28):
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Speaker: grassroots. (07:30):
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Speaker: Part three the emotional hijack. (07:33):
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Speaker: The most advanced manipulations don't aim at reason at all. (07:39):
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Speaker: They hijack the brain's ancient emotional circuitry. (07:45):
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Speaker: Neuroscientists describe the triune brain. (07:50):
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Speaker: The reptilian base for survival. (07:53):
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Speaker: The limbic system for emotion and bonding and the neocortex (07:57):
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Speaker: for reasoning and planning. (08:02):
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Speaker: Manipulators target the limbic (08:05):
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Speaker: system, our emotional (08:08):
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Speaker: switchboard, while suppressing (08:10):
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Speaker: the neocortex. (08:12):
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Speaker: Fear is the most reliable tool. (08:14):
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Speaker: Threaten someone's values. (08:19):
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Speaker: Make the danger feel immediate (08:21):
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Speaker: and the brain reroutes energy (08:23):
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Speaker: from analysis to quick defensive (08:25):
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Speaker: action. (08:28):
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Speaker: Loyalty spikes. (08:30):
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Speaker: Nuance collapses, and the person (08:32):
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Speaker: clings to whoever promises (08:35):
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Speaker: safety. (08:37):
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Speaker: That's what happened to Charlie. (08:38):
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Speaker: Conservative content framed liberalism as a danger to rural (08:41):
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Speaker: life and family survival. (08:46):
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Speaker: His fear circuits lit up, his (08:49):
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Speaker: reasoning dimmed, and (08:51):
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Speaker: conservative became synonymous (08:53):
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Speaker: with safe. (08:56):
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Speaker: Rachel's feeds used identical (08:58):
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Speaker: triggers only with progressive (09:01):
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Speaker: fears. (09:03):
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Speaker: The consequence was chronic low level fear. (09:05):
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Speaker: Their moods rose and fell with news cycles. (09:11):
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Speaker: Their sense of safety depended on constant confirmation that (09:14):
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Speaker: their side was winning, and their relationships, once rooted (09:18):
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Speaker: in family and care, were reframed through ideological (09:24):
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Speaker: lenses designed to keep them anxious and loyal. (09:28):
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Speaker: Part four The Tribe Machine. (09:36):
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Speaker: One of the most powerful manipulation techniques in (09:41):
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Speaker: politics takes advantage of something baked deep into human (09:44):
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Speaker: evolution our desperate need to belong to a tribe. (09:49):
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Speaker: So for most of history, survival wasn't about being the smartest (09:55):
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Speaker: or the strongest. (10:00):
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Speaker: It was about sticking with a (10:01):
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Speaker: group that would hunt with you, (10:03):
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Speaker: fight with you, and help raise (10:05):
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Speaker: your kids. (10:08):
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Speaker: So our brains evolved to prioritize loyalty, to conform (10:09):
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Speaker: to group norms, and to treat outsiders with suspicion. (10:14):
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Speaker: Modern political organizations (10:19):
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Speaker: have learned to hack this (10:22):
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Speaker: instinct. (10:24):
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Speaker: They build artificial tribes not around bloodlines or geography, (10:25):
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Speaker: but around ideology. (10:30):
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Speaker: They make political affiliation feel less like a matter of (10:33):
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Speaker: policy preference, and more like the core of who you are. (10:37):
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Speaker: Charlize feeds framed (10:43):
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Speaker: conservatism as proof of his (10:45):
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Speaker: authenticity as a rural (10:47):
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Speaker: American. (10:49):
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Speaker: Loyalty to his ancestors. (10:51):
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Speaker: Fidelity to tradition politics fused with identity until the (10:53):
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Speaker: two were indistinguishable. (10:59):
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Speaker: Rachel's feats performed the (11:02):
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Speaker: same operation in progressive (11:03):
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Speaker: terms. (11:06):
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Speaker: Once identity fused with (11:07):
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Speaker: politics, tribal enforcement (11:09):
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Speaker: kicked in. (11:12):
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Speaker: Both twins consumed content that recast disagreement as betrayal, (11:13):
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Speaker: debate as warfare, and compromise as cowardice. (11:20):
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Speaker: Social media algorithms amplified this by building (11:26):
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Speaker: homophily networks or echo chambers, where belonging, (11:29):
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Speaker: status, and meaning all came from political alignment. (11:34):
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Speaker: The result is what political (11:41):
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Speaker: scientists call affective (11:43):
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Speaker: polarization. (11:45):
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Speaker: Opponents stop being wrong and start being alien, dangerous. (11:47):
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Speaker: A threat to your way of life. (11:53):
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Speaker: That's what happened to Charlie and Rachel. (11:56):
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Speaker: They weren't engaged in Democratic debate anymore. (12:00):
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Speaker: They weren't trading ideas. (12:04):
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Speaker: They were fighting tribal wars. (12:06):
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Speaker: And that's exactly how the (12:09):
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Speaker: system was designed to make them (12:12):
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Speaker: Part five The Memory Wars. (12:17):
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Speaker: One of the most disturbing aspects of modern political (12:22):
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Speaker: manipulation is the way it rewrites our collective memory. (12:27):
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Speaker: Researchers call this historical reframing. (12:31):
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Speaker: Now here's the idea if you can (12:36):
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Speaker: By reshaping collective memory, political organizations changed (12:47):
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Speaker: the baseline assumptions. (12:53):
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Speaker: The foundation people use to (12:55):
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Speaker: evaluate everything happening (12:57):
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Speaker: right now. (13:00):
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Speaker: They do this in a few key ways. (13:02):
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Speaker: First, historical cherry picking. (13:05):
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Speaker: That's when certain events get (13:08):
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Speaker: Then there's the context stripping, taking events out of (13:19):
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Speaker: look clean and simple. (13:27):
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Speaker: Anachronistic interpretation is another favorite. (13:30):
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Speaker: Slapping modern values onto eras where they don't belong. (13:34):
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Speaker: Bending history to match current narratives. (13:40):
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Speaker: But the real powerhouse is (13:45):
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Speaker: Tell a simplified Ified version (13:52):
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Speaker: remember, not just what they (14:01):
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Speaker: think, but what they believe (14:03):
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Speaker: they experienced. (14:06):
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Speaker: Charlie fell right into this trap. (14:08):
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Speaker: His worldview around the (14:11):
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Speaker: storyline that painted rural (14:13):
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Speaker: communities as perpetually (14:15):
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Speaker: virtuous, an urban elite as (14:17):
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Speaker: perpetually corrupt. (14:19):
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Speaker: It left out the inconvenient (14:22):
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Speaker: parts of history, like the (14:24):
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Speaker: massive role government programs (14:25):
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Speaker: economies alive that didn't fit (14:29):
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Speaker: So it vanished. (14:33):
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Speaker: Rachel's version wasn't any more accurate. (14:36):
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Speaker: She absorbed the storyline where (14:39):
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Speaker: progressive movements were (14:41):
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Speaker: conservatives were always (14:45):
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Speaker: oppressive. (14:46):
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Speaker: That required minimizing the complexity of social movements (14:48):
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Speaker: and ignoring the fact that some conservative concerns came from (14:52):
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Speaker: real, legitimate fears. (14:58):
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Speaker: Psychologists call this motivated memory. (15:01):
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Speaker: You remember the past in ways that support what you already (15:05):
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Speaker: And the scariest part? (15:12):
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Speaker: Charlie and Rachel didn't just parrot these narratives. (15:14):
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Speaker: They genuinely believed them. (15:18):
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Speaker: They believed memories that contradicted their own lived (15:22):
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Speaker: experiences and even statements they themselves had once made. (15:25):
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Speaker: By this point, the algorithms (15:31):
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Speaker: hadn't just rewritten their (15:34):
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Speaker: political beliefs. (15:35):
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Speaker: They had rewritten their relationship to history itself. (15:37):
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Speaker: And that made the twins, like millions of others, open targets (15:41):
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Speaker: for manipulation through false analogies, fake precedents, and (15:47):
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Speaker: entire storylines about the past that never actually happened. (15:53):
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Speaker: Part six the Addiction Economy. (16:00):
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Speaker: Modern political manipulation (16:05):
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Speaker: doesn't just change what people (16:07):
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Speaker: believe. (16:09):
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Speaker: It creates dependencies. (16:11):
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Speaker: It wires the brain so that (16:13):
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Speaker: targets don't just want (16:15):
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Speaker: political content, they crave (16:17):
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Speaker: it. (16:19):
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Speaker: The techniques are borrowed straight from casinos, video (16:20):
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Speaker: games, and social media apps. (16:25):
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Speaker: Behavioral economists call it (16:28):
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Speaker: intermittent variable (16:30):
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Speaker: reinforcement. (16:33):
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Speaker: So in plain English, that means (16:34):
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Speaker: Mild irritation here, a small sense of validation there. (16:51):
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Speaker: But every so often a post hits (16:56):
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Speaker: Those moments trigger a dopamine release, and dopamine doesn't (17:15):
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Speaker: just feel good, it teaches your brain to come back for more. (17:21):
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Speaker: The cycle builds tolerance. (17:28):
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Speaker: After a while, mild outrage just won't cut it. (17:30):
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Speaker: Moderate positions start to feel bland. (17:35):
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Speaker: Compromise starts to look like betrayal and nuanced analysis. (17:39):
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Speaker: Ah. Forget it. (17:44):
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Speaker: Who wants thoughtful complexity when you can mainline the (17:46):
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Speaker: That's exactly where Charlie and Rachel ended up. (17:53):
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Speaker: And the addiction wasn't to politics itself. (18:26):
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Speaker: It was to neurochemical rush the dopamine spikes engineered by (18:30):
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Speaker: Part seven The manufacturing process. (18:49):
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Speaker: When you zoom out from the (18:55):
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Speaker: how they lock together into (18:59):
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Speaker: something much larger a system, (19:01):
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Speaker: a machine. (19:04):
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Speaker: Modern political organizations (19:06):
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Speaker: It begins with data. (19:25):
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Speaker: What feels like solidarity is really recruitment delivered (20:10):
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Speaker: through trusted messengers, friends, family, influencers who (20:15):
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Speaker: Once hooked, the content (20:23):
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Speaker: dissenting voices. (20:30):
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Speaker: Social media echo chambers do the rest. (20:32):
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Speaker: Soon, passive consumers turn into active agents sharing, (20:36):
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Speaker: Eventually, the political identity fuses so tightly with (20:55):
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Speaker: personal identity that leaving it would feel like amputating (20:59):
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Speaker: part of yourself. (21:04):
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Speaker: Charlie and Rachel went through every stage data collection, (21:06):
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Speaker: And through it all, they never felt programmed. (21:17):
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Speaker: They felt like they were waking up, which is exactly how the (21:21):
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Speaker: system was designed to feel. (21:26):
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Speaker: Part eight The Dark Psychology Arsenal. (21:30):
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Speaker: The techniques behind modern (21:36):
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Speaker: Awareness is the first crack in the system. (30:22):
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Speaker: Well, that keeps you from being captured at all. (30:47):
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Speaker: Most of all, we have to remember what Charlie and Rachel forgot. (30:51):
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Speaker: How far can these systems take you before you stop being (01:32):
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Speaker: And that is the question at the heart of tonight's episode. (01:44):
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Speaker: We've already seen how algorithms reel us in like fish (01:50):
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Speaker: Tonight we go bigger. (02:01):
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Speaker: We step inside the factory where those tricks get industrialized (02:03):
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Speaker: The same words, the same emotional triggers, the same (02:27):
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Speaker: Charlie and Rachel Patterson are fictionalized composites that (02:47):
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Speaker: Real Talk from Real America had thirty thousand subscribers who (03:36):
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Speaker: Credibility through personal experience. (04:02):
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Speaker: Finally, the ideological frame. (04:21):
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Speaker: This is what happens when woke ideology infiltrates families. (04:24):
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Speaker: None of this was deliberate. (04:31):
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Speaker: Charlie wasn't reading propaganda manuals. (04:33):
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Speaker: once used on him social proof, fear, association, cognitive (04:42):
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Speaker: Rachel's journey ran the same rails in the opposite direction. (04:55):
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Speaker: Part two the Language virus. (05:27):
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Speaker: So back in the nineteen nineties, political consultant (05:39):
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Speaker: Frank Luntz pioneered what he called language engineering, (05:43):
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Speaker: Today, Luntz's methods have been supercharged by artificial (06:14):
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Speaker: The most advanced manipulations don't aim at reason at all. (07:39):
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Speaker: His fear circuits lit up, his (08:49):
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Speaker: Part four The Tribe Machine. (09:36):
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Speaker: One of the most powerful manipulation techniques in (09:41):
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Speaker: politics takes advantage of something baked deep into human (09:44):
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Speaker: So for most of history, survival wasn't about being the smartest (09:55):
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Speaker: So our brains evolved to prioritize loyalty, to conform (10:09):
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Speaker: Rachel's feats performed the (11:02):
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Speaker: Now here's the idea if you can (12:36):
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