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Welcome back to episode sixteen
of The Gray Files, where we peel (00:03):
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back the layers of technology,
economics, data science, and (00:09):
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even the human condition itself,
all in an effort to try and (00:15):
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understand this vast and often
perplexing world we live in. (00:20):
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I'm your host, Eric Barker, and (00:25):
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tonight we're continuing our (00:28):
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three part series on the (00:30):
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attention wars by diving into (00:32):
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something that will challenge (00:35):
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how you think about your own (00:37):
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mind. (00:40):
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The dark art of psychological
manipulation, and how reality (00:41):
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itself can be rewritten without
you ever knowing it happened. (00:46):
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In our last episode, we watched (00:52):
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Charlie and Rachel Patterson, (00:55):
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twins who once seemed (00:57):
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inseparable. (01:00):
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Pulled apart until they became
enemies. (01:02):
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The force that drove that (01:06):
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transformation was algorithmic (01:07):
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manipulation. (01:11):
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Tonight we are looking at the (01:13):
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techniques that make such (01:15):
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changes possible. (01:17):
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To do that, we turn to Derren (01:20):
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Brown, the British mentalist (01:23):
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whose work shows just how (01:26):
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vulnerable the human mind really (01:29):
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is. (01:32):
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Now, a quick word before we dive
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If you hold your faith close, (01:37):
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this next story may feel (01:40):
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uncomfortable. (01:42):
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I say that as someone who is
deeply religious myself. (01:44):
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I am a practicing Buddhist. (01:47):
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My goal is not to dismiss
spirituality. (01:50):
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But what happened in this
experiment is simply too (01:53):
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important to ignore. (01:57):
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So in twenty twelve, Darren
Brown met Natalie, a committed (02:00):
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atheist from London. (02:07):
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Through conversation alone,
without drugs or actors, he (02:09):
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guided her into what she
described as a religious (02:16):
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conversion in a quiet church,
lit only by candles and colored (02:19):
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by stained glass. (02:26):
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She began to cry. (02:28):
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I asked God for forgiveness and
declared her love for Jesus. (02:31):
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The strange part is that Brown
himself does not believe in God. (02:38):
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He actually created the (02:46):
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experiment to prove that what (02:48):
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many people experience as divine (02:50):
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can be reproduced through (02:54):
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Psychology. (02:56):
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That fact alone raises a
terrifying question if a short (02:58):
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conversation can alter someone's
most deeply held beliefs, what (03:03):
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else about us can be rewritten? (03:10):
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Part one the impossible made
routine. (03:16):
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Many people think hypnosis is (03:24):
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nothing more than silly stage (03:27):
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tricks. (03:29):
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Someone on stage flaps their
arms like a chicken. (03:31):
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The crowd laughs and we walk (03:35):
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away convinced only fools fall (03:37):
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for it. (03:40):
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That reaction helps us protect (03:41):
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the idea that our thoughts are (03:43):
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our own. (03:47):
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The truth is more unsettling. (03:49):
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Brown's work shows that the mind
is full of openings. (03:52):
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It can be entered, shaped and (03:58):
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guided by anyone who knows the (04:01):
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entry points. (04:03):
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Consider his famous experiment
with actor Simon Pegg. (04:05):
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Pegg privately wrote down the
gift he most wanted for his (04:10):
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birthday, sealed the note and
handed it over. (04:15):
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His choice was a leather jacket. (04:19):
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Twenty minutes later, after what
looked like casual small talk, (04:23):
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Pegg announced that his true
wish was for a red BMX bicycle. (04:29):
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And that was the exact answer
Brown wanted. (04:37):
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The jacket was forgotten. (04:42):
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Now that conversation was
anything but casual. (04:45):
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Brown had planted words related (04:49):
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to cycling into their discussion (04:52):
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while repeatedly anchoring those (04:55):
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ideas with a touch on the same (04:57):
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spot. (05:00):
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Pegs unconscious mind linked the (05:01):
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touch with the idea of a (05:05):
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bicycle. (05:08):
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And Brown eventually convinced (05:09):
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him that the thought was his (05:11):
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own. (05:14):
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When people dismiss this as a (05:15):
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trick or accused a participant (05:17):
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of acting, they miss the real (05:19):
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lesson. (05:22):
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These are the same tools that
advertisers, politicians, (05:23):
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preachers and media outlets use
every day on all of us. (05:29):
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Brown is simply honest about
what he is doing. (05:35):
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Most manipulation happens
quietly. (05:39):
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Part two the neuro linguistic
weapon. (05:44):
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To understand how this works. (05:50):
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We need to look at (05:53):
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Neurolinguistic programming or (05:55):
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in. (05:58):
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Richard Bandler and John Grinder (06:01):
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created in the nineteen (06:04):
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seventies after studying three (06:06):
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remarkable therapists Fritz (06:08):
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Perls, Virginia Satir, and (06:11):
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Milton Erickson. (06:14):
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Now these three therapists could
dissolve trauma, cure phobias, (06:16):
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and free people from addictions
in a single session. (06:22):
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Bandler and grinder wanted to
know how. (06:27):
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So they studied the exact words, (06:31):
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gestures and timing the (06:34):
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therapist used. (06:37):
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What they discovered was a
repeatable system. (06:39):
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Human consciousness follows
patterns. (06:43):
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Once you understand the (06:47):
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patterns, you can influence the (06:48):
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outcome. (06:52):
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Practitioners of NLP learn how (06:54):
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to read subtle cues, like how (06:57):
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eye movements reveal whether a (07:00):
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person is remembering or (07:03):
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imagining. (07:05):
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Changes in breathing and posture
reveal shifts in mental state. (07:07):
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By mirroring those patterns, the
practitioner creates rapport, (07:13):
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then slowly leads the person
toward a new state of mind. (07:18):
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Language becomes the most
powerful tool. (07:25):
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Certain phrases slip past (07:28):
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conscious thought and reach the (07:30):
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unconscious directly. (07:33):
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Others confused the mind long
enough to lower its guard. (07:35):
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Emotional triggers can be set in
place and activated later with a (07:41):
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single word or gesture. (07:46):
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These methods have been tested
thousands of times. (07:49):
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They do not require belief. (07:55):
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They work whether or not the (07:57):
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subject notices what is (08:00):
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happening. (08:01):
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So as you can imagine, Derren (08:03):
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Brown is controversial even (08:05):
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among skeptics. (08:07):
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He spends his career exposing
fraudulent psychics. (08:09):
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Yet he also demonstrates that (08:13):
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suggestion can create (08:16):
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experiences so powerful they (08:18):
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feel supernatural. (08:22):
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And that brings us back to
Charlie and Rachael. (08:25):
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Now, if Brown can rewrite an
atheist faith and an evening and (08:29):
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convince Simon Pegg to forget
his own birthday wish, imagine (08:35):
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what algorithms, armed with
billions of data points about (08:41):
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us, are able to do. (08:47):
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Part three The Architecture of
conversion. (08:52):
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Let's break down exactly how (08:59):
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Derren Brown managed to guide (09:01):
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Natalie from firm atheist to (09:03):
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trembling believer. (09:07):
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Because the techniques revealed (09:09):
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the deeper structure behind all (09:10):
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ideological conversion. (09:13):
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The dramatic moment in the
church was only the finale. (09:16):
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The real work had been unfolding
quietly for weeks, through (09:21):
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preparation so subtle that
Natalie never once recognised (09:25):
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she was being guided. (09:31):
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Brown began with something (09:34):
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psychologists call environmental (09:36):
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priming. (09:38):
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He didn't drag Natalie into (09:40):
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sermons or confront her with (09:42):
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Bible verses. (09:44):
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Instead, he slipped sacred (09:45):
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imagery into everyday (09:48):
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experiences where it seemed (09:50):
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harmless. (09:52):
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A classical music concert that (09:54):
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just happened to be sacred (09:56):
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choral work. (09:59):
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A gallery tour filled with (10:01):
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Renaissance paintings of angels (10:03):
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and saints presented as mere art (10:05):
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history. (10:09):
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Casual conversations about the
comfort people find and (10:10):
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traditions and rituals. (10:15):
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Nothing about this felt like
religion being pushed. (10:18):
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It was presented as culture, art
and casual observation. (10:23):
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Yet Natalie's brain was busy
stitching connections in the (10:29):
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background, linking these images
with positive emotions. (10:35):
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Pathways were forming without
her awareness. (10:41):
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Airness. (10:46):
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Once her mind was softened by (10:47):
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this gentle exposure, Brown (10:49):
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moved into emotional (10:52):
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preparation. (10:53):
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He used conversations that (10:55):
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seemed casual, but every word (10:57):
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had direction. (11:00):
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He asked about childhood
memories, regrets, and her (11:02):
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hunger for deeper meaning. (11:07):
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Slowly, he led her into feelings (11:10):
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that often accompany religious (11:13):
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awakening, sorrow for past (11:15):
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mistakes, the ache for (11:18):
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forgiveness, the longing to (11:21):
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belong to something larger than (11:23):
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herself. (11:25):
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Every time Natalie expressed (11:27):
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those emotions, Brown reinforced (11:29):
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them his tone of voice, his (11:32):
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posture, even a simple look of (11:35):
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empathy. (11:38):
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All of it worked to deepen her
experience. (11:39):
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And it is here where he layered (11:43):
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in his most important tool (11:46):
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anchoring. (11:48):
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Each time Natalie voiced (11:51):
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spiritual yearning, he paired it (11:53):
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with a specific sensory cue (11:55):
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maybe a gentle touch on the (11:58):
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shoulder, maybe a shift in vocal (12:00):
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tone. (12:03):
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Her unconscious mind began to (12:05):
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tie these emotions to those (12:07):
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cues. (12:09):
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He was laying down psychological (12:10):
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tripwires he could trigger (12:13):
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later. (12:16):
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By the time Brown brought her (12:18):
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into the church, the stage was (12:19):
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set. (12:22):
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The environment did half the
work for him. (12:24):
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Candlelight quiets the nervous (12:27):
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system and nudges the brain (12:30):
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toward trance. (12:32):
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Centuries of religious history (12:34):
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in the stone walls create what (12:36):
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psychologists call environmental (12:38):
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demand characteristics. (12:41):
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Simply being there carries the
unconscious expectation that one (12:43):
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should feel reverence. (12:49):
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All Brown had to do was activate
the anchors. (12:51):
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He had planted a touch on the (12:55):
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shoulder, a certain tone of (12:58):
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voice. (13:00):
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The cues awakened the emotions. (13:01):
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Natalie had rehearsed again and
again, surrounded by sacred (13:03):
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imagery and history. (13:10):
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Her body and mind surrendered to
the moment. (13:11):
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What followed was powerful and
sincere. (13:16):
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Natalie collapsed into tears,
whispered apologies to God, and (13:21):
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declared her love with the full
weight of belief. (13:29):
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She was not faking. (13:34):
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She was feeling every single
word. (13:37):
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The tragedy is that those
feelings had been engineered. (13:42):
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They were the result of (13:47):
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calculated psychological (13:49):
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manipulation. (13:52):
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To Natalie, it was divine (13:54):
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revelation, but in truth, it was (13:57):
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conditioning, rehearsed step by (14:00):
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step until the final moment felt (14:04):
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inevitable. (14:07):
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Part four the Twins
transformation revealed. (14:10):
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Now we can see Charlie and
Rachel Patterson's story with a (14:18):
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bit of sharper clarity. (14:24):
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What happened to them was not (14:26):
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just about being fed different (14:28):
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news articles or social media (14:30):
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posts. (14:33):
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The algorithms guiding their (14:34):
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feeds were quietly deploying the (14:36):
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same psychological techniques (14:39):
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Derren Brown uses in his (14:42):
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experiments. (14:44):
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Only this time the manipulation (14:45):
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was automated and applied at (14:48):
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scale to millions of people at (14:51):
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once. (14:54):
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Charlie's gradual drift into
conservatism followed a textbook (14:56):
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path of ideological programming. (15:02):
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The first step was environmental
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Algorithms increased his (15:09):
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exposure to conservative (15:10):
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language and ideas, slipping (15:12):
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them into places that felt (15:15):
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harmless. (15:17):
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An unrelated to politics. (15:19):
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A farming video that casually (15:22):
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mentioned government (15:24):
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regulations. (15:26):
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A local news story where (15:28):
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conservative voices framed the (15:29):
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debate. (15:31):
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Posts from friends repeating (15:33):
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familiar conservative talking (15:35):
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points. (15:38):
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None of these, of course, raised
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It simply became background
noise. (15:42):
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And that background noise
trained Charlie's brain to (15:45):
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connect conservative ideas with
feelings of comfort. (15:50):
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Problem solving and belonging. (15:56):
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The more he saw, the more
natural it felt. (16:00):
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Then came emotional preparation. (16:05):
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The system learned what stirred
him economic worries. (16:09):
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Resentment over unfairness. (16:14):
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Fear of cultural change. (16:17):
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Longing for stability. (16:20):
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Once those feelings surfaced, (16:24):
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his feet answered with (16:26):
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conservative explanations and (16:28):
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solutions. (16:31):
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Every flare of anxiety or (16:33):
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confusion was met with a video (16:35):
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or post promising clarity (16:38):
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through conservative frames, his (16:41):
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unconscious mind built the (16:44):
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association step by step, (16:46):
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linking conservative ideology (16:50):
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with relief. (16:53):
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Rachel experienced the same (16:56):
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process, only mirrored in the (16:58):
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opposite direction. (17:01):
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Her frustrations were tethered
to villains on the conservative (17:03):
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side, her values were reinforced
through progressive activism and (17:07):
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liberal narratives that offered
meaning and purpose. (17:12):
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Her emotions were guided to (17:17):
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reach for comfort through (17:19):
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liberal solutions. (17:21):
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Both twins were walking through (17:23):
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parallel versions of the same (17:26):
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psychological maze. (17:29):
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Environmental priming. (17:32):
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Emotional preparation. (17:34):
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Anchoring techniques identical
to those used in religious (17:37):
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conversion, cult recruitment and
even therapeutic intervention. (17:42):
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The crucial twist was that this (17:50):
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time there was no individual (17:52):
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guide. (17:55):
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The orchestrator was an (17:57):
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algorithm, learning their (17:59):
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weaknesses and feeding them (18:01):
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content designed to reshape (18:03):
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their beliefs. (18:06):
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That is why their (18:08):
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transformations felt so (18:10):
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authentic. (18:12):
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Just like Natalie's moment in (18:14):
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the church, Charlie and Rachel's (18:17):
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political conversions were real (18:20):
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to them. (18:23):
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They weren't acting. (18:25):
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Their new convictions felt (18:27):
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self-directed, yet those (18:29):
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convictions were cultivated (18:31):
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through carefully fully (18:34):
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designed. (18:35):
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Environmental conditioning. (18:36):
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Part five the hypnosis. (18:39):
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You don't recognize. (18:43):
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The most important insight we
can pull from Derren Brown's (18:47):
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work is that hypnosis is nothing
like the cliche image. (18:52):
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We've been sold. (18:58):
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Pop culture has trained us to (19:01):
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picture hypnosis as someone (19:03):
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swinging a pocket watch in front (19:05):
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of your face, or cartoon spirals (19:08):
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spinning in your eyes while a (19:11):
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magician orders you to fall (19:14):
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asleep. (19:16):
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Those theatrics can be one
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are not the essence of it. (19:23):
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Real hypnosis is simply focused (19:26):
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videos without asking for a (20:29):
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Personalized feeds wrap you in (20:32):
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content that matches your (20:34):
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feels natural, like you are (20:39):
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discovering truth rather than (20:42):
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these trance like states. (21:50):
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They weren't sitting down,
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unsettling demonstrations is (22:18):
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controlled experiments. (22:36):
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Brown has led people to believe
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saw, met people they never
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they had never expressed. (22:48):
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The techniques echoed those used
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therapists, and religious
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Human memory is not a hard
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Altered by someone else's
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A skilled manipulator can steer
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The mind takes those details and
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confirmed their new beliefs. (24:28):
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Rachel had always been (24:33):
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These weren't lies in the mind. (24:54):
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These were memories, vivid and (24:57):
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certain, built from suggestion (25:00):
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Part seven the industrial scale
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When you understand how
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on one person, the bigger
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Every single technique Derren
Brown demonstrates in a small, (25:48):
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controlled setting is being used
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Political campaigns lean on (25:58):
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emotional anchoring to fuse (26:01):
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Religious groups lean on (26:08):
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environmental priming and social (26:11):
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pressure to manufacture (26:13):
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conversion experiences. (26:15):
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Corporations pour billions into
advertising that slips past (26:18):
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rational defenses and speak
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The difference is scale. (26:29):
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Brown can steer one person at a (26:32):
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time with carefully chosen words (26:34):
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and gestures. (26:37):
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Institutions backed by (26:38):
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technology can reach millions at (26:40):
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once. (26:43):
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Artificial intelligence fine
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learning what works best for
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Social media platforms have (26:57):
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evolved into what researchers (27:00):
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modification engines. (27:05):
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And these engines are not
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They are systems explicitly (27:13):
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designed to alter human (27:16):
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behavior. (27:19):
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Behind the curtain are teams of
neuroscientist, behavioral (27:21):
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economist and data scientist,
mapping out the soft spots and (27:26):
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human psychology and building
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The platforms often know more
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know about themselves. (27:41):
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For instance, shopping habits
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Search histories can expose
emotional wounds. (27:49):
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Even the structure of your
friend network can allow (27:54):
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algorithms to predict when your
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Someone vulnerable to anxiety
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toward content that heightens
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targeted ads or political posts
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Someone showing signs of
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suggested to them, often tied to
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products that provide the
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The outcome is mass (28:46):
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manipulation, packaged as (28:48):
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personalization. (28:50):
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People scroll through feeds,
believing they are carving their (28:53):
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own paths, when in reality their
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Part eight The Weaponization of
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Perhaps the most disturbing (29:22):
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manipulation is how it twists (29:27):
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our best qualities into weapons (29:31):
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Take empathy, for example. (29:36):
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The ability to feel someone
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of our strongest moral
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figured out how to hijack it. (29:47):
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They craft artificial emotional (29:50):
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experiences that make us feel (29:53):
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compelled to act, even when the (29:56):
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Political fundraising emails (30:05):
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stories that may or may not be (30:10):
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Pulling at compassion until a (30:13):
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donation feels like the only (30:15):
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Charities. (30:19):
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Charity splash! (30:20):
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Images of starving children or
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bypassing any rational
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organization is effective. (30:29):
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Social movements right. (30:32):
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Narratives of injustice that may
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spark is enough to cement (30:42):
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loyalty. (30:46):
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The reason this works is simple (30:48):
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human empathy evolved in small (30:51):
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tribal groups, where emotional (30:54):
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displays usually reflected (30:56):
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If someone in your circle cried,
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Our brains are not wired to
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appeals delivered by
professional storytellers, (31:10):
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marketers, or algorithms
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This was exactly how the
algorithmic manipulation of (31:21):
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Charlie was shown stories of (31:30):
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struggling rural families (31:32):
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crushed by regulations, farmers (31:34):
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environmental policies, and (31:39):
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towns abandoned by coastal (31:41):
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Rachel's feed leaned on the same (31:53):
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mechanics stories of minorities (31:56):
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oppression, and vulnerable (32:03):
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conservative power pulled at her (32:06):
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empathy and anchored it to (32:09):
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progressive activism. (32:11):
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highest intentions, the impulse (32:17):
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justice. (32:22):
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command, redirecting genuine (32:30):
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compassion into manufactured (32:32):
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conflicts that served outside (32:35):
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interest. (32:39):
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The true aim of psychological (32:47):
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people toward certain beliefs or (32:52):
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behaviors. (32:54):
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The deeper goal is to reshape a (32:56):
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person's relationship with (32:58):
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Beliefs and actions sit on the
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the frameworks we use to decide
what is real, which voices (33:08):
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deserve trust, and what kind of
evidence counts as proof? (33:13):
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Master manipulators know that if (33:19):
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they can tamper with those (33:23):
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frameworks, they no longer need (33:24):
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to argue about individual (33:27):
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and poor decisions on their own, (33:39):
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with little need for outside (33:42):
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deprogramming so difficult, and (33:48):
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political depolarization feel (33:51):
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The obstacle isn't a list of
incorrect facts that can be (33:56):
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distinguish truth from lies. (34:09):
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Their divergence wasn't simply a (34:18):
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matter of different political (34:21):
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opinions. (34:23):
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Each developed a new way of
filtering reality. (34:24):
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Charlie began trusting sources
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narratives while brushing off
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Rachel came to trust liberal (34:38):
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sources and rejected (34:40):
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considered. (35:01):
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The mind protects its new
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The algorithm's guiding the
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They had reconfigured the very (35:16):
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systems that tell us what is (35:19):
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Charlie and Rachel became both (35:22):
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They weren't just convinced of
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Part ten The Hypnotic Society. (35:43):
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We have to sit with the
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all be living inside a hypnotic
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consciousness has been swapped
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I locked on the screen awareness
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Rising faster than reason. (36:24):
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Time slipping away unnoticed. (36:26):
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guiding clients into trance. (36:35):
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state every single day, (36:40):
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consuming content chosen by (36:42):
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algorithms that care only about (36:45):
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keeping us engaged in these (36:47):
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hours. (36:51):
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Choice weakens and suggestion
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information we take in while
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through us, it imprints itself. (37:02):
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It sculpts our political
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decisions, Our expectations of
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Even our sense of what life
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It implants memories, spins up
emotions and manufactures (37:20):
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desires that feel as real as
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manipulated consciousness blurs. (37:34):
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shaped by systems designed to
steer behavior, what part of us (37:42):
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is truly our own? (37:49):
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Charlie and Rachel's story is
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It is common. (37:55):
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techniques originally created (37:59):
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operations tionS with entire (38:07):
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populations placed inside (38:10):
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platforms. (38:14):
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What happened to them is
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Their descent from loving
siblings into ideological (38:20):
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adversaries is proof that we
have built machines capable of (38:23):
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rewriting human consciousness. (38:29):
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While most people remain
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We'll examine how language
itself becomes weaponized, how (38:44):
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emotions get hijacked in the
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societies can be programmed to
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institutions rather than people. (38:58):
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For now, ask yourself this as
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absorb opinions and make choices
about who to trust. (39:08):
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How much of that feels like your
own voice, and how much of it (39:14):
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has been scripted for you? (39:19):
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The mind hackers are not science
fiction. (39:22):
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They exist. (39:25):
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Their techniques work, and they
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consciousness right now, even as
you hear these words. (39:31):
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The real question is not whether
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The real question is whether you (39:41):
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will learn to spot the (39:44):
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manipulation and build defenses (39:46):
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against it, or whether you will (39:49):
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remain a subject and someone (39:52):
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else's experiment. (39:55):
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