What if every rupture in your life was an invitation not just to fix what’s broken, but to rediscover the tenderness you’ve forgotten within yourself? In this deeply moving episode, we step into the heart of relationship as a spiritual practice with the extraordinary Terry Real — bestselling author, therapist, and founder of Relational Life Therapy (RLT). Known as “the turnaround guy” for his uncanny ability to save couples on the brink of divorce, Terry takes us far beyond quick fixes and into the soul of connection itself.
💡 Here’s what we explore together:
• Why relationship is not something we have, but something we are
• The difference between gratification and relational joy (and why one leaves us empty while the other transforms our lives)
• Breaking generational cycles: how Terry turned a legacy of anger and violence into healing and love
• The “ecological wisdom” of relationships and what happens when we trade control for interdependence
• Loving power vs. dominating power, how to stand strong without breaking connection
• The adaptive child within us: how trauma shapes our patterns, and how to lovingly guide that part of us without judgment
• Why vulnerability is the new strength for men, women, and everyone in between
• Practical tools to shift from reactivity to presence (and what to do when your partner is pushing all your buttons!)
🌍 At its core, this conversation isn’t just about saving marriages or deepening intimacy, it’s about remembering how to live, love, and relate in a way that can heal us, our families, and even the planet.
✨ Favourite quotable gems from Terry in this episode:
“There’s no redeeming value in harshness. Loving firmness always does it better.”
“If I win and you lose, we both lose.”
“Our relationships are our biospheres we are not above or below them, we are in them.”
🔗 Resources & Links:
• Terry’s latest book: Us: Getting Past You and Me to Build a More Loving Relationship
• Explore Relational Life Therapy: terryreal.com
📲 Connect with Terry Real on social media:
• Instagram: @terryreal.official • Facebook: Terry Real • LinkedIn: Terry Real
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