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Strange mysteries, unexplained phenomena.
And the shadows in between.
This is The InBetween Official Podcastwith your host,
Carol Ann!
Threesets of yellow eyes rise from the ground.
Standing like men,but moving like predators.
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Then comes the sound.
A distorted, mocking, human laugh echoingfrom snouts filled with too many teeth.
Two encounters,five lives changed forever.
What are these thingshunting us in our own backyards?
I'm Carol Ann.
Welcome to The InBetween.
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This encounter
comes from a manwho is the founder of, arguably,
one of the best known dogman channels on YouTube, Dark Waters.
The Dark Waters channelhas moved on to different pastures,
but the Dog Man storiesJames has narrated for almost a decade
are still posted for everyone to hear.
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But out of the thousands of storiesJames has told,
the one I'm most interested inis his own encounter,
which he’s graciouslygiven me the permission to share with you.
It started with the encounter of a guynamed Skip.
Skip is the trusted friendof a trusted friend
and the encounter happened around Taylor,Mississippi.
Now, The InBetween is not a dog manonly channel.
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So I am by no means a dog man expert.
So I had no idea that Taylor, Mississippi
is an absolute groundzero area for dog man encounters.
But James obviously did know
that and set up a Skype callto talk to Skip.
The call went well.
James was convinced of Skip'sauthenticity,
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and James told Skip's storyin a following video.
But the end of the Skype call includedan invitation to James to come to Oxford,
Mississippi, and Skip would take himto where it all happened.
James said, “Why not,” headed to Oxford
on a Friday and meet Skip for breakfastSaturday morning.
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The conversation was jovialuntil they turned their attention
to Skip's encounter.
Skip tenses up at the thoughtof going back to that spot, but assures
James he's all good.
They make plans to meet up again later at4 p.m., to drive together down to Taylor.
Both men show up whereand when they're supposed to,
and they start the drive downOld Taylor Road towards Taylor.
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It's just a two lane road with treesand bushes crowding in on both sides.
They take their time, with Skip evenstopping the truck at particular houses
along the way to show James where some ofthe most recent sightings have been.
They get to the area of Skip's encounteraround 5:45,
pull the truck off to the side of the roadand get out ahead of them.
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On the road is a pretty sharp curve,roughly 200 to 300 yards away.
The two guys are just standing theretalking about not only Skip’s experience,
but Skip is also sharingsome stories of things
that have been happeningnot far away at Sardis Lake.
As the two are chatting away,the sun starts
to set behind the treesand it's starting to get dark.
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James will be the first to admitthat he's a city kid,
but even he could feel a sense of dangergrowing.
Skip was just standing theretelling James more about his encounter
and didn't seem to noticethat everything had grown quiet.
Before then the area had been alivewith normal everyday sounds.
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Crows squawking on the power lines.
Dogs barking off in the distance.
But as slowly as the sun was setting,those sounds were going
away, replaced with a vacuum of silence.
James could still seethe crows on the power lines,
but now they're quietand staring into the distance.
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Watching.
James is trying to pay attentionto what Skip is saying, but the crows
suddenly take off, furiously shrieking,as if scared off by something.
Until now, Skipseemed pretty much oblivious to the change
in atmosphere, too intent on the memoriesof what happened to him there.
But the squawking crows taking flightkind of brought him back
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to the here and now,and he starts backing up toward the truck.
That's when James hears it.
Something is running through the brush,still far away but loud.
Skip says, “They're coming.
They're headed our way.”James says, “What’s headed our way?”
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“They’re headed our
way.” Skip wastes no time and startswalking back toward the truck
as whateverthat sound is gets louder and louder.
Whatever is crashing through the woodssounds like four
or five 400 pound NFL offensive linemen
running through and overanything in their path.
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They're still pretty far off,but they're closing in fast.
Skip walks to the truck, opensthe door and places one foot inside,
obviouslyready to bail at a moment's notice.
The sounds are coming
from the driver's side of the truck,but James still takes his cue
and rounds the truck to the passengerside, opens the door and stops to listen.
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The crashing sound is getting louderand louder
with tree limbs and branches cracking,but that's all they can hear.
No breathing, no other animal noises.
Just destruction.
And it's getting closer.
Skip starts calling the distance
100 yards.
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50. The crashing stops.
Skip looks at James overthe top of the truck and tells him.
“You need to get in.”James lifts his foot to get in
but freezes mid step as he hears the howl.
Now James fully admitsthat he's not an outdoorsman, but to him,
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this was a wail that sounded more likesomething you've heard
in every werewolf movie ever.
Not a known natural creature.
It was loud, with a palpable powerthat froze James solid.
He couldn't make himself moveto get into the truck.
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All he could do was stand therestaring into the woods
in what he describes as a nervous systemreboot
that hadn't quite finishedrelinking his brain to his muscles.
Yet he's still able to feel a fear
greater than anything he has ever feltin his life.
From the corner of his tunnel vision,he can see Skip
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driving away with the passenger sidedoor still wide open.
The truck speeds downthe road around the bend and is gone.
So now it's just James standing therewith only an empty road
between him and whatever these things are.
It is at that precise momentthat James's mind enters
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the state known as satori,the state of being where your mind, body
and spirit are in perfect alignmentand time slows down.
At that moment you arehyper aware and experiencing pure reality.
No ego, no thought.
An eternity passes as James standsthere alone, wondering if what is in
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those bushes is about to come outand assessing his options.
James is a pretty big dude, so he concedes
pretty quicklythat running is not an option.
He looks in the directionthat the truck was headed.
No tail lights.
Skip is gone.
So the truck is not an option.
Okay, so
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it's justJames and whatever it is in that treeline,
he never actually sees what it is,but he heard it.
The crashing through the brushand the unnatural howl.
Whatever it is, it's real.
So he does the only thing he can thinkto do with the only weapon he has.
He plants his feet and raises his fist.
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You may sound pretty silly.
Getting readyto punch a dog man in the face.
But just ask yourself, what would you do?
Another eternity seems to tick by
when James hears the screechof truck tires in the distance.
Thank you, Jesus.
Skip has obviously figured outthat James is not in the truck.
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He hears more screeching as the truckturns itself around in the road.
He hears the engine rev up as the truckcomes back around the bend at full speed.
It's headlights lighting up the treelineas it makes the curve,
and rightthen, James sees what he hopes to this day
is the closest thinghe ever gets to a dog man.
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He sees something blackmoving from left to right.
No details, just black.
But to him that's enough.
The truck comes to a screeching haltright in front of him.
And Skip yells, “Get in!
Get in!” But now the passengerdoor is on the other side of the truck.
And there's no way on God's green earthJames is going to take the time
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to run around the truck, so he just jumpsinto the back of the truck and Skip
takes off.
Once Skip feels they're far enough away,he stops the truck to let James
get inside.
And many choicewords are exchanged between them.
“You left me there?”
“How could you just stand thereand not get in the truck?”
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After a few minutes,the initial fire subsides
and the two men break down into laughter
at such an absurd, surreal experience.
Back at the hotel over a couple of drinks,
a very important,in my opinion, conversation takes place.
James says, “I don't know what that was.
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I didn't really see anything.” Skip,a little confounded,
says, “It was a dog man.
You heard it running.
You heard the howl.”But to James, that doesn't count.
He didn't see it.
So Skip asks him, “Did you want to?”
James ponders a moment.
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He thinks about the loudness of the treescrashing, the blood
freezing howl,the overwhelming feeling of fear
and the size of that black maskhe saw moved through the tree line.
He answers “No.”
And from that experience,James has come to two conclusions.
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First is that maybe the whole ideaof visiting places
where incidents have happened topeople isn't such a good idea.
And second,for those who say, “I want to see
one.” No.
No, you don't.
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This encounter comes
from one of our very ownInBetweeners named Chad Taylor.
Chad has lived in Kentucky for 65 years,and at the moment lives
in the Daniel Boone National Forest,close to the Cumberland Falls.
Anywhere outdoors is his happy place.
He has drivenevery road, walked every trail.
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He has heard every soundthe forest can make.
He and Mother Nature are as one.
But about a year ago November,what he and his son saw
one fateful nightdid not come from Mother Nature.
Around that time, Chadhad to have shoulder surgery.
That's a tough thing for a manwho's used to providing for himself,
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having to take a seatand let someone else actually help.
But his adult son, Ian, being the good son
that he is, steps up to fill the gapand take care of his “not
as young as he used to be” dad,without even needing to be asked.
Ian brings his son Lucas to see grandpa,and the two of them spend a few weeks
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helping Chad around the house, choppingwood, making a repair here and there.
It's hard for Chadto just sit there and watch someone else
take care of his responsibilities,but Lord knows he appreciated it.
Lucas, who's nine at the time, spendsmost of his time either
running around with Chad's dogs or sittingquietly listening to his grandpa
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tell him story after story of his endlesshunting adventures.
The evenings are reservedfor chillin on the porch, Chad
smoking his pipe, enjoying the cool air,looking out over his yard
which spills into more open spacethat is surrounded by trees.
Except this night.
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Something is different.
He's out relaxing on the porch alone,
when he notices the woodsgo completely quiet.
No crickets, no frogs, no wind.
Just a stillnessthat is almost oppressive,
that he compares to an actual pressureon his ears.
Chad'sdogs, Boone and Rascal, notice it too.
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Boone's fur stands on end as he lets outa deep growl.
Rascal has the opposite reaction,tucking his tail between his legs
and leaking out a sad, quiet whimper.
That's when Chad first sees them.
Three sets of yellow glowing eyes.
And they're low at first,
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making Chad think it must be eye shinefrom some normal predator.
Although he knows of no predatorwho can silence
every livingand non-living thing in a forest.
But then, they stand up.
They're on two legs like a man,but they're not a man.
Whatever they are, Chad has neverin his 65 years seen anything like them.
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They're tall and lanky, with arms and legsthat look too long.
They have heads that look too big, snouts
that are too thin and waytoo many teeth in their mouths.
Chad is mesmerized by the teethglinting even in the low light.
When Ian steps out onto the porch,beer in hand, ready for the nightly
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porch meeting, he sees them right away,and in a low voice asks his dad,
“What the hell is that?”
Chad quietly answers, “I don't know,
but we need to get inside, now.”As if sensing their opportunity
is slipping away,the beasts start moving closer, fast.
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It takes all of one second for them
to get from the treeline, stopping at the end of the yard.
Chad can see their fingers,their impossibly long claws
twitching at their sides.
Their heads are cocked to the side,as if studying these strange humans.
Then one of them makes a sound.
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It's a high pitched, distorted soundthat Chad realizes
is an imitation of a human laugh.
That's it.
We're done here!
Chad yells, “Inside now,” as
Ian grabs Boone's collar and drags him in.
Rascal doesn't need an invitationand scurries through the door
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as Chadturns around, slams the door and locks it.
Everything is quiet as they stand inside,staring at each other,
wonderingwhat the hell it is that they just saw.
The silence lasts for about a hot minutebefore they start hearing scratching
claws draggingacross the outside of the house and a low,
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guttural clicking noise that sounds likethey're actually talking to each other.
Lucas,who had been sleeping, wakes up screaming
as Ian grabsChad's shotgun off the fireplace mantle.
Chad grabs his rifle and,ignoring the searing pain, lifts it
to his shoulder, ready to take outanything that decides to come in.
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The clicking and the clawing stops,but is replaced with a low, raspy,
mocking voice hissing, “Let us in.”
Chad's eyes, scanning the room,
waiting for the next move,lock onto movement as his blood runs cold.
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There's a face at the window,a long snouted,
unnatural face pressed against the glass,fogging it with its teeth,
its empty yellow eyes locked on Chad.
But then Chad sees more movementat another window.
And then another.
All three of these things are watchingthe Taylor boys from different windows,
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tapping on the glassas if taunting them into action.
But they don't break in.
They just watch.
As Chad is trying to dothe mental calculations in his head
as to how the two of theminside are going to fight
the three of them outside, they vanish.
No sound, no movement, just poof, gone.
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When morning light comes, Chad and Ian
cautiously step out onto the porch.
Sure enough,there are claw marks in the porch wood.
Deep gouges that, if nothing else, serve
as proof that what they sawwas not their imagination.
They weren't dreamingand they weren't going crazy.
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They actually saw real monsters.
Ian and Lucas packed their thingsthat afternoon,
with Ian telling Chad, I'm sorry, dad.
But I'm never bringing Lucas back hereagain.
And who could blame him?
Actually, I'm pretty sure Chad doesn'twant them to come back,
because every night as Chadsits out on his porch
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smoking his pipe,he can feel them watching.
He can feel them waiting.
And he knows that one nightthey won't stop at the windows.
They'll find a way inside.
So I don't know if the vanishing dogmanfrom the last story
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just disappeared off into the night,or actually vanished into a puff of smoke,
but the wisping out of existence suresounds like the same kind of weirdness
that's described in Matt Emch'sDogman encounter.
If you haven't seen that one yet,or even if you have, and you want yet
another terrifying tale to keep you awaketonight, click right here.
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Just know I warned you.
Be careful out there.
And I will see you hereagain, on The InBetween.
Thanks for tuning into The InBetween Podcast.
Enjoy the full visual experiencewith me over on YouTube.
Just search for @TheInBetweenTales.
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I'm Carol Ann.
And until next time, be careful out there.
You.