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Remember those eight
massive spiral wellsplunging 648m beneath the Great Pyramid?
The discoverythat shattered 4500 years of archeology?
Well, the team behind that bombshelljust dropped something even bigger.
Evidence so compelling that it could forcethe hand of mainstream Egyptology.
But like every Avenger has their foibles,
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the heroes in this scenario
might not be as up to the challengeas we'd hoped.
I'm Carol Ann.
Welcome to The InBetween.
A few months ago,
we covered the earth shaking announcement(link in the description)
from the Khafre Project researchersCorrado Malanga, Filippo
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Biondi and Armando Mei,who claimed their synthetic aperture
radar, or SAR DopplerTomography, had detected
massive underground structuresbeneath the Giza pyramids.
Eight cylindrical wellsspiraling down 648m.
That’s two Eiffel Towers.
Cubic chambers80m on each side, an underground complex
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potentially stretching1.2km beneath the entire Giza Plateau.
At the time, skeptics questionedwhether satellite radar
could possibly detect structuresat such extreme depths.
The Egyptian Ministry stayed silent.
Many dismissed it as fringe archeology.
While that last part is still true,for the most part, there are a few things
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that have changed that I thinkare important in keeping you up to date.
This past Saturday, June 14th, 2025,
the Khafre boys were in Maltaattending the first International Khafre
Project Conference, which from what I cantell, was a 90 minute presentation
given by Filippo Biondioffering a more in-depth
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explanation on the findingsthey released back in March.
And speaking of Filippo Biondi,let's take a brief moment
Can I have a moment to myself, please?
to talk aboutall three of the original presenters.
I have to confess that when the lastconference broke the internet,
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I was way more focused on what wasbeing said than who was saying it.
And the actual English translationof the entire four hour conference
wasn't available yet.
So it took a while beforeI could go back and digest
what all three speakershad to say in full.
Ever have that feeling that you wishyou knew then what you know now?
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How the hell do I know? What I don't know?
Now let me be clear.
I'm not throwing shade on anyone,and I'm not one of those people
who believe that you have to havea doctorate in any subject
to be qualified to speak about it.
That being said,let's start with Armando Mei.
While his background doesseem to be steeped in Ancient Egypt,
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and he's writtenseveral books on the subject,
his presentationat the original conference meanders
through a squishyredating of the entire Giza complex
before morphing into numerologyand the Emerald Tablets.
If you watched our episodeon the Emerald Tablets
(link in the description),you'll know that I'm not the biggest fan.
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As far as Corrado Malanga is concerned,he was a researcher
for 35 years in the Departmentof Chemistry and Industrial Chemistry
of the University of Pisa, but as of lateseems to be spending most of his time,
outside of the Khafreproject, on subjects like
crop circles and alien abduction.
Please hear me now.
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I'm not saying that those thingsare not worth studying.
(Except for the Emerald tablets).
They, in my humble opinion,just don't have a place at this table.
This table is reservedfor those with hard, tangible proof.
The evidence they have shown the worldso far is tangible.
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But is it real?
Which brings us to the thirdof our three musketeers, Filippo Biondi.
This guy is a signal processing
researcher specializingin synthetic aperture radar technologies,
and has a PhD in telecommunicationengineering.
So he knows his satellites.
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And he's filed for the patents for the SAR
Doppler TomographyImaging that he's invented.
And it's certainly possiblethat Filippo has taken the other
two under his wing and is teaching themwhat's what with this technology.
But at least this guy knows this stufflike maybe no one else.
So, thankfully, this is the guy who givesthe entire detailed
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presentation at the new 90 minuteconference on June 14th.
And when I say detailed, I mean detailed.
So the spatial resolution is this one here
and is measuredin meters is equal to lambda,
which is a wavelength, times, What,you didn't get all of that.
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I will have a link to the original90 minute conference video
from the channel Project Unityin the description.
I can tell youafter watching all 90 minutes of it,
I feel like I can speak Italian now.
Welcome to the in-between.
Go watch the conferenceif you want all the juicy equations.
But suffice it to say,it's like the ultrasound your doctor uses.
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Except instead of sound waves,they're using electromagnetic pulses
from a satellite 600km above the Earth.
But the real innovation is what they call
“photon-phonon interaction”.
When electromagnetic energyfrom the satellite hits matter,
it creates physical vibrations.
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They've developed software that transformsthese electromagnetic impulses
into acoustic data, which canthen be transformed into 3D models.
Now at the conference in March,they went into some of their experiments
with real worldenvironments to get proof of concept.
But this timethey started from the very beginning.
They started in Corrado Malanga’s garage.
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Water, a camera,a computer and a vibration generator.
And a little wine.
Denise is some wine.
Yeah, but this is What?
They're Italian.
They created vibrations that put waterinto motion, recorded this as raw data
and successfully retrieved imagesof objects beneath the water surface.
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Tables, shapes - they could see throughthe water and map what was underneath.
Once they proved the concept worked,they moved to real world targets
where they already knewwhat should be there.
They tested on railway tunnelsinside the Carlin Tunnel in Nevada.
Perfect.
Next, they targeted Gran Sassomountain in Italy, nearly 10,000ft tall,
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or 3000m, with a physics laboratoryburied inside the mountain core.
This lab contains a laser interferometer
and other vibrating equipmentthat make perfect targets.
They created tomagraphic images from spaceshowing the tunnel passing through
the mountain, the laboratory inside,and even the interferometer itself.
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The results are a little noisy,but they're there.
And they didn't stop there.
They scanned the Mosul Dam in Iraq.
We get to see a glimpse of thisin the first presentation, but this time
they went more in-depth talkingabout how they detected the tunnels,
the concrete injection work,and could even tell the difference
between the two different typesof turbines inside the dam.
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They even mapped sectionsof the Gotthard Tunnel in the Alps.
Every test validated their techniqueon known structures.
One critical point.
Their 3D models are human created,not AI generated.
They use artificial intelligenceonly to calculate probability
for structure detection.
But humans interpret the dataand build the models from scan results.
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This matters because it meansevery structure they're claiming to find
has been verifiedby human analysts of the radar data,
not algorithmic pattern matchingthat might create false positives.
It's also important to notethat the only serious criticism
the Khafre Project has gotten so faris that they haven't scanned
anythingdeep, like a known mineshaft, to prove
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they can see the 1.2km depththey claim to see in the Khafre scans.
That should be an easy fault to remedy,which I hope they do soon.
But back to the research.
Now was time to take the show to Giza.
First up, the Osiris Shaft,which is located on the limestone
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causeway that runs between the KhafrePyramid and the Sphinx.
This is a known structurediscovered in the early 1800s
and partially excavated in the 1930s.
Previous scans and explorationhave mapped out this labyrinth of tunnels
down about 100ft, or 31m, where it meetsa pool of slightly salty water.
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The Khafre team’s scans perfectly show
all three levels of the shaft,and if you look closely,
their scans show this shaft goesmuch deeper than previously known.
Two and a half times deeper,with an enormous structure at the bottom.
And if nothing else, it shows thatthe technology works to a depth of 100ft,
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not the 2000ft depth they claimto have found structures in yet.
But it's a start.
In the Great Pyramid, they detectedthe famous nine meter corridor
that Professor Zahi Hawass discovered(we will chat more about him later),
showing the room behind itwith visible roof structure.
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They confirmed the large voidthat other researchers found, providing
independent verificationwith completely different technology.
But the Khafre pyramid remainstheir most spectacular discovery.
Distinct pillarsextending from top to bottom,
each surrounded by spiral structures,all connected through shaft systems.
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These aren'tnatural geological formations.
They show clear signs of engineering,an intentional design.
Now I know the imagesfrom the original conference
left many people, myselfincluded, thinking,
“How on earth did they get spiralsfrom looking at these scans?”
And Filippo must have the same questions,because this time he actually shows us.
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At this point, he talks a little bitmore about the pillars
and the things they appearto have located up to 1.2km
below the surface, reiterating whatthey talked about in the first conference.
However, this timehe adds that they have actually detected
those same pillar structuresunder all three Giza pyramids.
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And just so you know,when they first saw the scans
of those pillar figures, CorradoMalanga insisted that
the color blobs they were looking athad to be just noise of some kind.
So they changed their radar.
They changed their satellite.
They redrew all the images and the pillarsjust kept coming back.
In addition to the pillars,they're also investigating what they call
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the “Tomb of the Birds” tunnel systemthat runs below the entire Giza Plateau,
a network explored in the early 1900sthat researchers say extends
from the northwestern corner belowthe central pyramid.
In the Western Field,where the mastaba tombs sit,
they've discoveredthat each rectangular structure
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contains multiple vertical shaftsconnected by horizontal passages.
It's an extensive underground networkthat suggests
these surface tombs might be coveringearlier shaft entrances.
The implications are staggering.
We're not just looking atindividual pyramids with hidden chambers.
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We're looking at an integrated undergroundcomplex that spans the entire plateau.
Now, none of this really means anything
if the scans can't be duplicatedby another team.
So the Khafre boys are now workingwith Stanford University and other
professional institutions to replicatetheir methods and validate their findings.
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The peer review process is happeningin real time.
But here's the beautiful part.
This technology works from satellitesthat no government controls.
The Egyptian Ministry can't say no
to a noninvasive scanning from space.
The data keeps coming,whether they approve it or not.
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This new presentation goes a long way
to backing upand expounding on the original claims.
What seemed like impossible assertionsnow have documented
technological validation.
The team isn't just saying, “Trust us.”They're showing exactly how they developed
the technology, proved it works,and applied it systematically.
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The team's ultimate goal remainsphysical verification through excavation.
That's the only way
to definitively confirmwhat their radar technology has detected.
But given the Egyptian government'sprotective stance toward Giza,
that permission won't come easily.
Here's where we circleback to our good friend Zahi Hawass.
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Doctor Hawass is an archeologist,Egyptologist, lecturer,
and formerEgyptian Minister of Antiquities.
Notice the word former.
He's not the currentDirector of Antiquities,
but he is still the biggest fishin their little pond.
And he thinks this whole SARscan business is a bunch of hooey.
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But then again, sounds like,according to him, he's
the only one who knows the truthabout the pyramids
and even claimsto have discovered the Osiris shaft.
Do you know about the Osiris shaft?
How they've got a.
I just covered it.
You did right. Yeah.
Do you know thatthey use this tomographic?
No, no, I am the one who foundedWhich is a lie.
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He excavated it in 1999
and got to the lowest pointanyone can get at at the moment.
But it was discovered in the early 1800sby Giovanni Battista Caviglia,
and was first documented in 1933
to 1934 by Selim Hassan
as being a bigger dealthan just a hole in the ground.
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But of course, he has nothing to hideand nothing to gain, right?
are the online.
I know in my book Giza and the pyramids.
In my book Giza and the pyramid.
Are there photos of this?
Of course, in my book. It's in my book.It's in my book.
If you go tomy book, would ever the red light.
It's in my book asks the people onlinebut they're and
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remains in my book are yes, in my bookI don't I do
I don't go online who I have to go online,I go to my book.
I think it's rather interestingthat his two biggest beefs
with the Khafre Project is that one,they've never been to Egypt.
Well, when your data comesfrom a satellite that makes a trip
around the globe every 90 minutes,you don't have to go to Egypt.
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And second, that they didn'tgo through the peer review process.
However, with validated technology, peerreview from major institutions
currently in progress, and growinginternational pressure for transparency,
that excavation approvalbecomes increasingly inevitable.
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Especially considering thatat least to start,
we don't have to do anything invasive.
The scans show the Osiris Shaft goes down
another couple hundred feet belowfrom the current bottom.
So send a remote control subwith a light and a camera,
or even an endoscopic camera, andsee if there's anything else down there.
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What's the harm?
It's possiblethat there really is nothing to see, that
the bottom is bricked offfrom anything beneath it, with the water
just seeping through the cracks.
But to my knowledge,no one's tried anything new since 1999.
But the easiest first step is to digunder the pyramid.
Sounds huge, I know, but each pyramidsits on a slab of limestone,
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so digging a small shaft rightunder that slab
should not upset the pyramid itself.
The slab is only about 30ft thick,
and the pillarsare supposed to be going down from there.
So they should only have to dig downlike 50ft diagonally.
If the pillars are there,they should be easy to find.
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At that point, if they are there.
Then start the discussionsabout how to better confirm
what the scans show is even deeper.
If these structures exist,as the evidence suggests,
we're not just rewriting Egyptian history.
We're confronting the possibilitythat human engineering capabilities
4500 years ago, or perhaps much earlier,
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exceeded anything we thought possible.
The underground complex beneath Giza
might represent the most sophisticatedancient engineering project
ever discovered,and we're watching its revelation
unfold live with technologythat didn't even exist a decade ago.
The Khafre Project has moved from makingextraordinary
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claimsto providing extraordinary evidence.
Their technology seems to work.
Their methods seem sound.
Their discoveriesare being independently validated.
So I guess time will tell.
But make no mistake.
The KhafreProject boys are far from backing down.
They are staking their entire careerson the outcome.
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I got to hand it to them.
They're sure that what they've shown usis really there.
According to Corrado Malanga, “Thistechnique provides direct measurements
that do not leave room for possiblemysterious interpretations,...and
only a tetravaccinated personwould not notice things that any Squid
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(a fish species known for having only onegiant neuron)
should admit without any braineffort.” The pyramids
we have stared at for millenniamay just be the tip of the iceberg.
And now, finally, we're beginning
to see what lies beneath.
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The Khafre Project
evidence is mounting and the discoverieskeep coming.
If anything further develops
on this particular front,I will be back to let you know.
If you want to dive deeperinto the technical details,
I'll put a link to the full presentationin the description.
If you want to take a look
at our other episode on the Khafreproject, click right here.
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Be careful out there.
And I will see youhere again, on The InBetween.