Lost Civilizations: HIDDEN SECRETS That Change Everything (Ep 172) COMPILATION

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Strange mysteries, unexplained phenomena.
And the shadows in between.
This is The InBetween Official Podcastwith your host,
Carol Ann!

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A group of ancient explorers,
more than happyto take on a small exploration expedition
beforethey have to get back on their boat again,
choose the obvious path in front of them.
A wide, flat plain, seemingly carved out
from the higher planesrising on each side.
As they trek on, their feetcontinually crunching on seashells,

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they see remnants of a civilizationat numerous spots
along their journeyin the form of rock drawings.
The drawings show toolsand weapons and boats and even chariots.
Lots of chariots.
As they walk even further.
They see what's now known as Ben Amiral,a huge monolithic rock

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standing alone in the flat, sandy plain.
They climb the rock to get a betterlook at the surrounding landscape.
Off in the distancethey see yet another small rise.
So they climb down the rock and head overto the next rise, the Adrar Plateau.
And after some timewalking along the ridge, they see it.

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Laid out before them are the remnantsof a huge abandoned city that, to
our explorers,had to have been a place of great
power and wonder and riches.
This must have been the home to all ofthe boats and weapons and chariots
that they saw, drawn on the rocksthey'd passed on the way here.

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This must have been Atlantis.
Who made this incredible discovery?
Well, we don't know.
We know someone did,but we have several candidates.
And to understandthe potential of this location,
we have to backtrack a little so we canget the whole story in the proper context.

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So let's go back, back,back, back and get a look
at the first literal picture, the maps.
Now there's a few thingswe need to understand about what
people thought the world waswhen they made the first maps.
At first there were just two islands,Europe and Asia.
Back then, people only knew thatthere were two types of land.

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One was green and cold. That was Europe.
And the other was hot. That was Asia.
But then they’re like, well,wait a minute.
All of Asia is hot.
But there's kind of a differencebetween the East and the West.
Notice I said they were islands.
That’s because back then,any time you needed to cross

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any amount of waterto get to the other land,
that land was considered an island,or in Greek, Nesos.
It didn't have to be surrounded by water.
You just had to cross some body of waterto get there.
Even a river.
So they noticed that the Nile Riveractually broke up Asia into two islands.

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So they named the new island Libya.
Up to that point,nobody had ventured very far into Libya.
So that's where the map stops.
So now there are three islands.
Another important thing to keep in mindis that the Okeanos,
or the ocean was like The Ocean.

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It was the huge body of waterthat was thought to be
more like a huge riverthat surrounded everything.
And the land was a big circlein the middle of it.
So all lakes and riverscome from the Okeanos.
And that means that when you hear thatthe location of Atlantis was past

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the Atlantic Sea,it does not mean the Atlantic Ocean.
Their use of the termsea could just as easily mean a lake.
But our first stop goes backeven further than these maps.
We're going to start out way, way back.
Like 20,000 years back.
At that time, there was a tribe of peopleliving in the mountain country,

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just a bit inlandfrom the north coast of Africa.
Now sciencereferred to them as Iberomaurusians.
But in ancient timesthey were known as Atlanteans.
In fact, the mountain rangethat they were known to inhabit
is to this dayknown as the Atlas Mountains.
And that whole area, basicallyanything that wasn't the area that is now

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Egypt and Libya was known as Atlantisor Atlantes.
The Kingdom of the Descendants of Atlas,
also known as the Atlanteans.
For reasons not quite clear.
Those mountain dwelling Atlanteansstarted moving east around 8700 BC.
Took them about 700 years,but they managed to make their way all the

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way across the northern coast of Africauntil they got to Egypt.
Most historians will tell youthat the first civilizations in Egypt
started around 3100 B.C.,but that's not quite true.
There were several tribes in the areawe before that.
But when the Atlanteans arrive,they come face to face
with probably eitherthe Qadans or the Harifians.

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Whoever it was, it was not a happyencounter for the current inhabitants.
Probably one of the first warsin human history.
The Atlanteans were a differentbreed of humans, so to speak,
with noticeably biggerand different skulls,
and they were said to be advanced people,which probably means

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that they had advanced weaponry.
All we really know is that both of thesecultures, the Harifians or the Qadans,
both died out around that same timethat the Atlanteans hit the scene.
And how do we know this?
Well, both archeological evidence, and
because those who lived kept records.
But hold that thought for a bitbecause our timeline takes a bit of a jump

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right here.
Fast forward to 600 BC, and King
Necho II,king of Egypt, was a little ticked off.
And he's been that way for five years.
Because five years before that,he and his army were trounced
by King NebuchadnezzarII and his Babylonian army,

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causing Necho II to lose all of his landseast of the Red Sea.
Not so good for the ego.
So he's just itching to find some placethat he can conquer to make up for it.
So he has two choices.
South or West.
Now he pretty much knew what to expectif he went south,
but he has no idea what lays to the West.

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So before sending his armiesin that direction,
he decides a little reconnaissancemission might be in order.
Let's figure outa) if there's anything with conquering
and/or b) if we attack, can we win?
And instead of sending his own people,he manages to talk some Phoenicians

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who are great sailorsinto sailing around Libya
or Africa as we know ittoday, and checking out that west side.
See if there's anything worthsending an army for.
Now, remember,they didn't think there was too much
beyondwhat they already knew to be out there.
So they didn't think that sailing aroundto the west side of the island

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from the southwould really take that long.
In fact, what he really wanted themto find was a river that would give them
a shortcut to the west side without havingto go around the entire island.
And since they didn'thave the huge galleon ships
like the explorers of the 16th centuryhad, that could hold a lot of supplies,

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the Phoenicians would sail for a while,stop plant seeds,
and while they're waiting for harvesttime,
have a look around and explorewherever they are at the time.
Pretty unique way to explore.
Once they can harvestwhat they've planted,
they load up the shipsand head on down the coast.
Which means it took themthree years to get all the way around.

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And one of the last stops they madebefore sailing their way back east
through the Strait of Gibraltar and backhome, was the Bay of Arguin.
Could these have beenthe guys who walked up the dry riverbed?
They absolutely could have been.
Once they stop and plant their seeds,they have months
to look around and explorethe region before it's harvest time.

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Did they?
I'm not sure we'll ever know for sure,but we do know that after that trip,
the maps were updated to includea fourth island continent of Atlantis.
And just a few yearsafter the Phoenician explorers sail home,
a guy named Solon takes a trip from Athensto Egypt.
Solon is well known

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as one of the Seven Wise Men of Greece,and he's actually credited
as the man who laid the foundationsfor democracy in Greece.
I love this guy.
Athens was having issuesunder their current system,
so they hand over the powerto reform their laws to Solon.
Then Solon makes a bunch of changes,

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and being a man of true integrity,hands the power back to the people.
He then takes off traveling for ten years
so that no one can persuade himto change the new laws back.
And one of the places that he visitsis Egypt.
By this time, civilization in Egyptis pretty well established.

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Solon spent some time hanging out withthe current Pharaoh of Egypt at the time,
Amasis II, and learning and debatingwith some of the priests in their temples.
He's chatting with the priestat the Temple of Seis one day
about the long, storied past of Greece,
dating all the way back to 1500 B.C.,

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when the priest says to him, Oh, Solon.
Solon.
You, Helen's,are never anything but children.
And there is not an old man among you.
Solon asks him, “What do you mean?”I mean to say that in mind.
You are all young.
There is no old opinionhanded down among you by ancient
tradition,nor any science which is haughty with age.

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And I will tell you why.
So the priest explains to Solonthat the Grecians
can only go back in their historyto 1500 B.C.
for a good reason,because right around then
the volcano on the island of Thera,
or modern day Santorini, erupted.
And I mean erupted!

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On the Volcanic Explosivity Index, MountSaint Helens was about a 4.5.
This was between a six and a sevenin the scale only goes up to seven.
So it pretty much wipes outthe island of Crete and sends
a 30ft tsunamithrough the Mediterranean and Aegean seas,

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taking a lot of peopleand Greek history with it.
The priest goes on to explain by literallyreading the writing on the walls,
as the walls of the templeare covered in hieroglyphics
documenting their history,that the world has had countless
deluges and earthquakes,and many civilizations have come and gone.

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Unfortunately,we can't look at those walls today
because the temple at Seis was claimedby the Nile River.
the sunken to the swamp.
So He then gives Solon a quick rundownon their much longer history,
including the battlewith the Atlantean people
who defeated Egypt in that timeand colonize the area.

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Many of the Atlanteans settled thereand told stories of their past
and of their oncegreat capital city, Atlantis,
which was destroyed in a single dayand night of earthquakes and floods,
reclaimed by the sea and leavingonly an impassable, muddy plain

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with just a few reedsreaching out of the water.
Eventually, Solon returns home and tells
everyone about his ten years of adventure,
including his conversationwith the Egyptian priest.
Over time and oral tradition, the story
eventually makes its way to Plato.
But let's not get ahead of ourselves.

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A few years after Solon's visit to Egypt,
Hanno the Explorer from Carthage, decidesto sow some exploration oats.
So he sets out to explore from Carthage
in the Mediterraneandown the western side of the island.
He wrote all about his tripin the “Periplus of Hanno”.
A periplus is basically just an ancientjournal explorers used to keep track

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of navigation and discoveriesin any people they ran into,
and even future trading opportunitiesthat they might have.
So they sail past the Strait of Gibraltarand down the coastline.
One of their first stopsis at the Lixus River,
which is now the Loukkos River,located at the modern city of Larache.

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They met the Lixitas peopleand hang out with them for a while.
The Lixitastell Hanno of these men who lived
above them in the mountains,Dwelling in a land full of wild beasts
and shut off by great mountains,from which they say the Lexus flows.
And on the mountainslive men of various shapes.

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Cave dwellers who so the leaks are to saya fleet are afoot than horses.
So that tells us that as of roughly 500
BC, there are still some peopleliving up in the Atlas Mountains
that didn't look likethe rest of the people around them.
Sometime in the following 100 years,a Greek historian called Hellanicus

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writes his version of world historythat includes a mention of Atlantis,
And right in
between those two guys, around 360 BC,
we get the books known as Criteasand Timaeus from none other than Plato,

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whose description of Atlantispassed down through oral tradition
through multiple generations,starting from his ancestor Solon,
who got it straightfrom the Egyptian priest, is
by far the most famous.
According to Plato's account,Atlantis was a large island located

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beyond the Pillars of Herculesor the Strait of Gibraltar.
It was ruled by a powerful kingdom withan advanced civilization and technology.
The Atlanteans lived in a utopian societywith magnificent palaces,
temples and infrastructure.
However, Plato describedhow the Atlanteans became greedy

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and imperialistic.
About 9000 years before Solon's time,they conquered and enslaved
much of Africa.
They were eventually defeatedby the Aegeans,
who were the ancient ancestorsof the Athenians, in a great war.
But even though the Atlanteanslost the war,
the gods are still displeasedby their hubris and corruption.

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So in a single cataclysmic day
and night, Atlantisis destroyed by earthquakes, floods,
and is swallowed up by the sea, lostbeneath the waters.
Only an impassable, muddy shoal remainswhere the great city once stood.
Now, most of us have heardat least this rough description

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of Atlantis from Plato before,but many don't believe it
because they say the whole storyjust a made up tale, an allegory
to teach the consequencesof bad government on top of bad morals.
However,throughout all the rest of Plato's works,
he actually goes through the troubleof pointing out which ones are stories

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or allegories,fictitious narratives to prove a point.
But he does not do that for eitherCriteas or Timaeus.
In fact,he goes out of his way in numerous points
to say that Atlantis was a real placeand that this is real history
passed on from his ancestor,the great Solon.

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If these were indeed fables,why would he go out of his way
to say otherwise,not call them out like all the others?
And while we're in the depths of ancientGreek philosophers,
let's dispel another common myth -the mistaken idea that Aristotle
said the quiet part out loud that Atlantis

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was a fictional creation of Plato.
He actually said no such thing.
In fact, up until the 19th century,
no one had the idea that Aristotledidn't believe that Atlantis was real.
Not until a French astronomernamed Jean-Baptiste
Joseph Delambremade a grave error in the early 1800s.

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See if you can track with me on this.
In reading a commentary workwritten in Latin in 1587 by a French
scholar named Isaac Casaubon,which was about the work of Greek
geographer Strabo,written around the year zero,
which was talking about a comment
made by a Greekhistorian Posidonius, written about 50 BC,

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that mentions Atlantis.
He made a mistake in his translation,which ended up tying together
two completely unrelated passages.
I couldn't make that up if I tried.
That whole story is a videofor another channel,
but suffice to say that ever sincethen, people have taken it as gospel

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that Aristotle didn'tbelieve Atlantis was real.
But he did.
So if we proceed with the ideathat Plato's story is a true telling
of history, then let's take a closerlook at exactly what he said.
Because, as they say,the devil is in the details.
Between both of his works, Criteasand Timaeus, but especially Criteas,

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Plato puts forth several detailsabout the city of Atlantis.
Making alternate zones of seaand land larger and smaller,
encircling one another.
There were two of land and three of water.
And beginning from the sea,they board a canal,
making a passage from the sea up to this,which became a harbor.

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And the stone they quarriedbeneath the central island, all round
and from beneaththe outer and inner circles,
some of itbeing white, some black, and some red.
Surrounding the city was a
level plane extending in one direction3000 stadia,
but across the center inlandit was 2000 stadia.

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This part of the island looked towardsthe south
and was sheltered from the north.
Rivers and lakes and meadows, supplyingfood enough for every animal,
wild or tame.
The surrounding mountains were celebratedfor their number and size and beauty
far beyond any which still exist.

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At this point,I know some of you know exactly
where we are going with this,but for those of you who don't,
welcome to the Eye of the Sahara,also known as the Eye of Africa
or technically knownas the Richat Structure.
Now, a lot of this informationcomes from the work of Jimmy Corsetti

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at Bright Insight, and ChrisTolworthy from Pythagoras Was Right.
So big thank you’s to both of them.
Links to their channelsand to their websites are in
the description below.
Definitely go check those out.
So what is the Richat structure?

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The Richat structure is a roughly 100million year old geological rock
formation, presumably the remnants
of a collapsed volcanic dome, smack dab
in the middle of the Sahara Desert, inwhat is now the country of Mauritania.
I know!
Seems like an odd location for Atlantis,but this place ticks

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a ton of Atlantean detail boxes.
It didn't get any attentionfrom modern geologists
until about the 1930s and 40s,
because of how big it isfrom side to side.
We didn't get our first really goodlook at the whole of the structure
until satellite imagerytaken in the 1960s.

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And I know it doesn'treally look like much today,
but imagine what it may have been like,let's say 20,000 years ago.
100 million yearsof geological machinations
would have built up the soilon top of the structure.
And I do mean soil.
There's plenty of evidence of this areaalternating

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between lush and greenand the desert that it is today.
So there's plenty of organic materialfor soil back then.
The other thing we need to keep in mindis that Africa used to have a vast network
of lakes and rivers, which would have madeany migration or expansion pretty easy.

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We now know there was once a huge riverin this
very same area called the Tamanrassettthat was flowing up
until about 5000 years ago,same time that the whole area dried up.
It was big.
So it would have had tributariescoming from all over.
There was also Mega Lake Chadthat connected surrounding area rivers.

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So with all of this waterflowing in seemingly every direction,
to thinkthat there could have been a river system
that connected the Richat to the ocean,is not crazy at all.
In fact,many people of the era thought that
the Nile curved west and came outon the other side of the island.
That's what NechoII sent the Phoenicians to find.

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That dissecting riverstays on maps for a long time.
We know now that it's not quitehow things are laid out,
but it does go to showthat Africa once had long rivers
that went deepinto the interior of the continent.
So let's saythat you're a wandering Atlantean,
and you're crossing this flat areathat is now known as the Adrar Plateau,

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which translates to Little Atlas.
And you make it to the other side,only to look out and see some lush,
green, hilly territory with valleysfilled with water from connected
streams and riversall laid out right in front of you.
Once you explore the area a little more,

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you realize that those hills and valleysformed circles.
What a great placeto build a fortified city.
seems like a no brainer.
People have been taking advantage
of preexisting geologic structuressince the beginning of time.
Okay, so now we have a civilizationliving on the structure.

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How on earth do we connect that to Plato'sdescription of Atlantis?
Well, let's go through what he said.
Plato mentionsthat the full diameter of Atlantis
is 127 stadia,
one stadia is 607ft.
So 127 stadia

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equals 77,089ft,
or about 14.5 miles or about 23km.
Now I get thatmy Google Earth measurements
aren't that exact,but this is pretty darn close.
He mentions mountains to the norththat had rivers flowing down.

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He mentions a wide plain.
The rings are there.
The opening to the south for shipscoming in and out is there.
The red, whiteand black stones are all over the place.
Okay, let's tackle the idea that Atlantis
was an islandin the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.

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The name certainly tells usthat we're heading in the right direction.
So if you're leaving from Greece,you first need to sail across
the Mediterranean Sea to the placewhere the sea meets the Atlantic.
That place is the Strait of Gibraltar.
Plato said There was an islandsituated in front of the straits,
which are byyou called the Pillars of Heracles.

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Now the Pillars of Heracles are the Greekversion of the Pillars of Hercules.
Same thing.
They're both just names
of the two mountains on eitherside of the Strait of Gibraltar,
where it's claimedthat Hercules used his might to push
the African and European continent apartbetween the two mountains.

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But what does he meanby in front of the straits?
Well, backthen, that huge expanse in front of you
that is the AtlanticOcean was nothing but certain death.
So they just didn't go out there.
Instead, they always stuck closeto whatever coasts line they were sailing.
So when you look at the strait,the path in front of you

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would be the northern coastalSea of Africa,
which was called Atlanticum Mare,
or the Sea of Atlas.
Therefore, the path to Atlantis
was along the coast of Africaand past the Atlas Mountains.
Once you get out past the straitthe Gulf and Canary

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currents pick you right up and pull youalong the coast of Africa,
which eventually leadsyou down to the Bay of Arguin,
the closest open waterspot to the Richat Structure.
One more reason that Atlantis is mostlikely not an island, as we imagine
out in the middle of the ocean, is thatPlato said

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Harbors were full of vessels and merchantscoming from all parts.
Night and day.
Well, that implies a central location,not the middle of an ocean.
There were not hundreds of ships
sailing into the middle of the oceanon a regular basis to trade.
It’s just not how it worked back then.

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And which means it also has to be a placebig enough for a large population.
If it's busy all day and all night.
And for those of youkeeping track of other possible locations,
that rules out the Azores.
And I know it's hard to wrap your headaround the idea that an island
could be in the middle of a continent.

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But again, back then, islandjust meant a place
that you had to cross water to get to.
The type in size of the waterdidn't matter.
River. Lake.
It all meant the same thing.
In those daysthere were lots of rivers flowing.
They could have been in the path of peopletraveling over from east to west.

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Literally whole continents
were referred to as islands.
And I have to take one last shotat the “island
in the middle of the ocean” theory.
Elephants.
Plato said There were a great numberof elephants in the island.
Here's the Sirens Vase from fifth century

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BC depicting the type of boatsthat they had then.
Now, by the timethey got to Plato in the fourth century,
they had something called a trireme,which is much bigger.
But even then, I still can'timagine boats from 8000 years
before that, were anywhere nearbig enough to hold an elephant

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for an extended amount of timewhile they sailed the Atlantic Ocean.
The area around the Eye of the Sahara,on the other hand,
is full of rockart depictions of elephants.
Elephant bones are still aroundand elephants
still live all oversouthwestern and southern Africa.
So there's no reason to thinkthat they wouldn't

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have been in the northern regions backwhen it was lush
and green 5 to 8000 years ago.
Another feature of Atlantiswas its abundance of gold.
Plato describes statues of gold,
gold throughout the templesand walls of gold around that.
Gold everywhere.

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Well, ancient Mauritania,which includes the Richat Structure,
was known for having lots of gold.
They're the ones who supplied Europewith gold before the discovery of America.
The Mali Empire King Mansa Musa,who ruled a region including Mauritania
in the 14th century,was the richest man in history,

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owning more than half the world's gold.
And what is one of Mauritania's main
industries and exports today?
Gold.
One of the Rings of Land, Plato
says, A race course of a stadiumin width and in length,
allowed to extend all round theisland for horses to race in.

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Soundskind of funny to think of horse races
before 9000 BC, but around that whole area
there are over 1200 different locations
of rock art depicting chariots.
Lots and lots of chariots.
Not to mention weapons and shieldsand a whole lot of boats.

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Plato also mentionedthat Egypt was a colony of Atlantis.
And since we know those Atlanteans,or Iberomarausians, came out
of the Atlas Mountains and moved eastuntil they clashed with and defeated
either the Qadans or the Harifians,whichever one was there at the time.
So making that area a colonyafter that, it's totally plausible.

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And our last reference for now to Plato'sCriteas
talks about what happenedafter whatever happened to Atlantis.
Plato says it Became an impassablebarrier of mud
to voyagessailing from hence to any part of the sea.
Now, as far as I'm
concerned,we can take this in two different ways.

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First, if there was a huge floodof some kind that wiped out the city,
that whole level plain would,
for a time, become a big mud plain.
sail down any rivers in that.
Or if that flood wiped the city out
to the sea to the west and dumpall of the debris

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when it reached the ocean,there should be a mud pit there.
And there is!
If there was a deluge of waterfrom whatever source, based on the current
topography of Africa,the water would have drained to the west.
And we can see an old maps,the existence of a mud shoal.
And considering when they sailedat the time, they hugged the coast,

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that might seem like an impassablebarrier of mud.
And I also just want to talk a little bitabout the idea
that the Atlanteans werea technologically advanced civilization.
Plato doesn't go into detail about that,
but based on his writing,that is something that has been inferred.

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And we in these modern times have often
interpreted that to meanthat they must have had crystal
energy and advanced constructionand transportation.
But that's our idea, not what's written.
Sure,they were super rich, militarily strong,
and seemingly wise beyond their peers,but to be an advanced civilization,

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it only really takes being a little bitmore advanced than the next guy.
Now is the only historical evidencewe have
for the existence of Atlanteansand of the Eye of the Sahara
being a possible hub of activityonly from written accounts and stories?
Nope.
We have plenty of ancient mapsthat show us as well.

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Let's go all the way back to Herodotus.
Remember him? Father of history.
Maps made from his writingsof what the world looked like then,
clearlyshow the Atlantis region or kingdom.
Now, keep in mindthat Atlantis was known to be
the capital city of the Atlantisor Atlantes Kingdom.

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Kind of like New York Cityin the state of New York.
New York City.
We also have the map drawn upby Pomponius Mela in roughly 40 AD,
called “The HabitableWorld of Pomponius Mela”,
that also shows an areaof the western portion
of the Sahara as the area of the Atlantae

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in the same geographical areawhere the Richat Structure sits.
We also have numerous mapsthat show a region right around
where the Richat would beas a big body of water connected to either
the oceans or other great rivers,which would make them a trade hub.
Side note.
I want to know what this guy is all about.

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Or maybe I don't.
On top of that, we have mapsthat seem to actually show the structure.
This map from 1743was created by European slave traders,
marking the spots in Africawhere they can get more slaves.
It's known as the Caragoli Map becauseof its mention of a particular village

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right around where the Richat is located,
called “Caragoli Maurorum Pagus”.
That's Latin for “Caragoli Moorishvillage”.
Moorish just means from Mauritania.
Caragoli is Latin for spiral shape.
Okay, so let's step back for a secondand go over what we have so far.

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We have a naturally occurring structurethat makes a perfect
fortified city with water and rivers.
We have ancient maps placinga group of people living in the area
who most likely stumbledupon it at some point.
We have anthropological proofthat these people migrated east
and met up with the people in early Egyptand subjugated them.

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We have the stories of those settlers
of their pastwritten out in hieroglyphics.
We have people from another area
bringing those stories back homeand writing them down.
We have one of the greatest philosopherswho ever lived
making those stories publicthrough his wide educational reach.
And we have independent evidencethat corroborates both the details

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of the story and the overall contextin which the story was written.
Okay, so what is the Richat Structure?
The ultra short version is it'sa 100 million year old collapsed
volcanic dome that left nearly perfectconcentric rings when it popped.

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Now, there are somethat say that it isn't a volcanic dome,
that it came from a gigantic plasmastrike from another giant celestial body
coming very close to Earth, closeenough to electrically connect.
But no matter how it formed, it formed.
And now it sits in the middleof the Sahara Desert, about 300 miles

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from the western coastline of Africa, inwhat is now the country of Mauritania.
French geologists Theodore Manueland Richard Mollard studied the area
in the 1940s and 1950s, but it wasn't
until the 1965 Gemini IV space mission
that we got our first good overheadlook at the structure.

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In testing done in the 60s on the rocksthat compose the structure
found no evidenceof the kind of change in the rock
that is only created by sudden heatand high pressure.
So it's not an impact crater.
It is highly eroded.
But interestingly,the Wikipedia page that talks about it
doesn't give any opinion as to whatthose erosion forces might have been.

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But then again, a hundred million
years is a long time to be sitting therebaking in the sun.
The number of changesthat area has been through in
that time is pretty staggering.
I mean, the entire western chunkeven separated for a while
with what is called the TransSaharan Seaway sometime between 100

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and 50 million years ago,so after the structure was born.
And the whole desert itself has gone
from a desert environmentto hot, humid, lush
and green, numerous times over millennia.
This current dry stageis only roughly 5000 years old,

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a mere blink of the geologic eye.
Before that, which would bewhen Atlantis is said to have existed
and perished,it was mostly in the lush and green phase.
It had water everywhere,with lots of lakes
and even a couple mega lakes like MegaLake Chad, which at its height

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was the biggest freshwaterlake ever, bigger than all of the North
American Great Lakes combinedby an addition on 50%.
In fact,one of those mega lakes was Lake Tritonis
that is rumored to have existed upin the northern area of Africa,
around Tunisia and or northern Algeria.

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Some scholars believe that this mayhave been the body of water that was
needed to be crossed to get to Atlantis,
giving Atlantis its status as an island.
What does that have to dowith the Richat Structure?
Not much.
But as a Star Wars fan,I just wanted to point out
that the areathey think Lake Tritonis existed in

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is also the childhood home of oneLuke Skywalker.
There are all kinds of mapsshowing some of the lakes,
and even the larger riversthat used to flow over the dry sand.
One of those larger riversor river networks was the
This thing was so
big that it could pretty much connectanything in the Upper Saharan area

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from the Atlas Mountains, all the way downto the south of the Richat.
In fact, the system was so big thatif it were still here today,
it would rank 12th among the top
50 largest drainage basins worldwide.
And it moved so much water that it createdwhat is known today as the Cap

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Timiris Canyon,which is a 250 mile or 400 kilometer
long submarine channel systemthat starts just past the Bay of Arguin.
Now, to get all of that water together,
there would have taken lots of feederrivers.
Is it possible that one of those feederswent next to the Richat?

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I wouldn't think thatthat's out of the question,
especially when we can see evidencenot far away of not only a lake
and a pretty big one at that, but also of
what is possibly a manmade canal
that would bring that waterover to the eye side of the plateau.
It certainly has the saltor mineral deposits

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that you would expectto see on the bottom of a dry lakebed.
But if you look at the edges,the horizontal striations show
that this was most likely a shoreline.
And if we back out just a bit, we can seethis line right across the middle.
I have no idea what that is,but a straight line

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in the middle of a lake doesn't happenvery often in nature.
And here's a betterlook at that possible canal.
Does that look natural?
Or did someone dig this?
We can see along the neighboring plateauridge
plenty of evidence of watermoving across the land.

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And looking at the current topography,is it really a stretch
to think that the riverbed here in yellow
could have connectedto the rings of the Richat?
I don't think so.
All it would take is one water sourceflowing down the plateau,
which looks like there were many,
to fill the rings with waterand flow out the other side again.

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Then something shifted, in the grand
scheme of global climate,around 5000 years ago
that dried up the entire areainto the vast desert we see today.
But that warming, it'spart of a regular cycle of dry
and wet that the Sahara isnow known to go through.
The question we need to answer is,if the Richat Structure

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is the site of the city of Atlantis,how did it get destroyed?
That is the million dollar question.
Well, if you believe that the RichatStructure is the lost city of Atlantis,
then it obviously didn'tsink to the bottom of the ocean.
So how would the demise of inhabitantsof an island structure

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happen in a waythat would match Plato's description of,
And in a single dayand night of misfortune.
All your warlikemen in a body sank into the earth.
How abouta giant cataclysmic wall of water?
Think that's not possible?
Think again.
Now, a lot of people talk a lotabout something called

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the Younger Dryasas probably having something to do
with whatever events happenedto cause the flooding of Atlantis.
The Younger Dryas was a periodfrom approximately 12,900
to 11,700 years ago,give or take a few years,
when the Earth's temperaturesdrop dramatically for a thousand years.

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That part we know is a fact.
What we don't know is why and why
the temperaturescame roaring back at the end.
Fun fact for today.
The Younger, Older and Oldest
Dryas's are named for a flower.
Dryas octopetala, better knownas white dryads or mountain avens.

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These beautiful little white flowers
love the cold,so thrive in cooler temperatures.
So by measuring the amount of the pollenpresent in ice core samples,
we can tell that the yearswith the high Dryas
octopetala pollen countswere years of cooler temperatures.
But the more I think about it, I'mstarting to think that whatever happened

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to end the period of the Younger Dryasis coincidental
to what happened to the city of Atlantis,even though the end of the Younger
Dryas happened about the same timeas the calamity at Atlantis.
And let me just say right now that I'm noteven pretending to have all the answers.

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I don't think it's possiblethat we ever will.
But I know what I see,and what I see is water.
Lots of water.
Pictures of the area surroundingthe Richat Structure and the Adrar Plateau
from space show evidence of large scalescouring of the surface.

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This scouring does not come from the wind.
The windiest place on Earth is CapeDenison in Antarctica,
and it's also nice and flat,like the area around the Richat.
But we see nothing like the scouringwe see in Africa.
Also, water is known to create ripplesas it moves over sand.

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We know that Washingtonstate had a mass flood
event called the Missoula Flood,because they still have those same
ripples, only on a much bigger scale.
And guess what?
We see the same ripples in the sandat Mauritania.
Now, some of you may jump on Google Earth.
Something I highly recommend, by the way.

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I can get lost in there for hoursand take a closer look at Cape Denison.
And if you scroll in, you will seesome rippling happening in the snow.
But like I said last time,
the devil is in the details.
The ripples in Mauritania are readilyvisible at an altitude of ten miles.

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The ripples in CapeDenison can only be seen
at close range, 4000ft.
If you zoom out to the sameten mile altitude like we did in Africa,
they disappear,showing only a white flat plane which,
if you notice, is also devoid of
the scour marksthat we see in Africa as well.

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Clearly not the same geological forcesat work here.
Now, if you follow the workof the OzGeology YouTube channel,
who has done some awesome workon ancient tsunami detection,
you will know that according to him,the ripples are not the answer.
The chevrons are.

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Chevrons are V-shapedareas of sediment deposits
that a tsunami drops offas it loses strength as it goes inland.
The good news?
The Sahara has those as well, lots of them
extendinghundreds of miles in from the coast.
But let's go back to scour marksfor a moment.

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We also have that same scouring happeningon the eastern side of the continent,
where we can seeEmi Koussi, a 1 million year old volcano
and the highest point in the Saharaat 11,000ft.
It's last magma flow is dated to somewhere
between 12 and 14,000 years ago.

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If we zoom out a bit,we can see the scour pattern
actually flows aroundboth sides of the volcano.
And if we take a closer look,
we can see the scour linesrun over the top of the flow field.
So they had to have happenedafter that flow 12 to 14,000 years ago.
Now we have to thank Jimmy Corsettiand his YouTube

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channel, Bright Insightfor a lot of this research.
But at this point,I'm going to diverge from Jimmy's opinion.
At one point,
he mentions the salt deposit insidethe caldera of Emi Koussi as something
that would have been depositedduring this major salt water event.
But I got to disagree with himon this one.

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Emi Koussi is at 11,000ft, or 3.3km tall.
And I just don't thinkthe wave would have been that big.
I think the salt deposits are more likelyto be from water
springing upfrom inside the caldera itself.
And while I don't think the salt in EmiKoussi necessarily tells us anything,

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we have salt in plenty of other placesthat do.
The Saharan region is known for its hugesalt deposits, no doubt in part
from that Trans Saharan Seawaythat cut the continent in two.
But we are not looking at the deepdeposits.
We are looking at the stuffhanging out on the surface.

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Let's take another look at thosesame sand ripples we saw earlier.
See the white areas in between?
That's salt.
And we can see more salt insidethe ring structures of the
Richat Structure as well.
And the thickest saltdeposits are in the lowest lying areas,
like the places where water would settleas it's drying out.

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And speaking of salt,all of the surface wells in
the area are full of salt water.
Now, whether that is because hugeamounts of seawater washed over the land
and percolated down into the shallowwater tables,
or it's another lingering effectof the enormous amount of seawater

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that used to flow through here,I don't know.
But you have to dig down over 600ftto get to fresh water.
But according to the documentary“Visiting Atlantis”,
which you can only watchexclusively on the Gaia network,
link below, there's onewell in the center of the structure.

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And just like Plato said, Awell near the Central
Acropolisprovided the city with fresh water.
It's a fresh water well.
Another argument against thisbeing the site of any civilization
is the fact that there's no visibleevidence of anything ever being there.
But considering that
the people in the regionbuilt their houses using rocks and mud,

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if a biblical amount of watercame through,
there would be nothing leftto see, just rocks.
Rocks that Plato said, And the stonethey quarried beneath the central island,
all round and from beneaththe outer and inner circles,
some of itbeing white, some black, and some red.
And those white,black and red stones are everywhere.

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That's pretty muchall there is as far as the eye can see.
And just because we can't see anything inthe pictures doesn't mean it's not there.
There's never been any effortto excavate the site.
Now, seeing as though it's14 miles or 25km across,
that would be a daunting task.
But from what I understand, diggingthere is actually not allowed.

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So there goes any chanceof finding that evidence.
That being said, there actuallyis something left over.
The area is a treasure trove of artifacts
that can't be tiedto any known civilization at this point,
including stone spheres that are cutwith a high degree of precision
and weights that look like onesknown to be used for fishing nets.

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Why would people need fishing net weightsunless they are surrounded by water?
Okay. Question.
So if there was this big wall of water
that washed everything away,where's the debris?
Answer. In the ocean.
It's called the Mauritania Slide Complex,
which is actually two huge areas

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just off the western edge of Africa,right out from the Bay of Arguin,
where gigantic piles of mudand debris were deposited
on either side of the Cap Timiris Canyon
where all that water cut the huge channel.
When did all of this mud collect there?
About 11,000 years ago.

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And for those of you keeping score.
That's right.
About when Plato saidAtlantis was destroyed.
Now, one problem with the tsunami theoryis that the structure is currently
about 1300 feetor over 400m above sea level.
That's a mighty tall wave.

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But that's where it currently sits.
That doesn't mean that's how high it was11,000 years ago.
And I hear you barking, big dog.
Tectonic plates move super slow.
I know.
But we know that Antarcticais rising at a rate
of 1.6in per year right now,
and 1300 feet divided by 11,700

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years is only 1.3in per year.
So Africa rising to that height
in that time frame is certainly doable.
But what if the tectonic platedidn't do a slow rise
like Antarctica is doing,but it had a series of bigger jumps?

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Follow me here.
We know that the African plateis subducting under the Eurasian plate.
In fact,those two plates hitting is what created
the outer edge of the AtlasMountains on the north coast.
So this subduction,when one plate is sliding under the other,
also makes for an active volcanicand earthquake prone area.

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It's one of the four most earthquakeprone regions in the world.
And the people of Creteand Pompeii will tell you
that the volcanoesare there in the neighborhood as well.
And the creation of the structure itself,along with the Canary and Cape Verde
islands, shows there's plenty of magmarolling around under the surface

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that is capableof affecting the land above it.
So with all of that plate activity, it'shard to predict what's going to happen.
And just to give you an ideaof what can happen,
take a look at the Noto Peninsulain Japan.
They were just hit with an earthquakeon January 1st, 2024.
Happy New Year to you.

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with a magnitude of 7.6.
That little jostlethey felt was enough to raise the land
underneath them by 3.5ft
and push them to the westalmost four feet in just a few minutes.
There are now oceanfront condos

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that are 800ft from the ocean.
So the last question to answer iswhere did all of this water come from?
Well, I think that based on the markingsleft on the surface of the land,
probably points to a flow of watermoving from east to west,
which would point to something hugehappening in the Mediterranean Sea.

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Does the Mediterraneanhave enough water for that? Yep.
The average depth of the Mediterranean Seais about 5000ft or 1500 meters.
So it's not as deep as the bigger oceans,
which average about 12,000ft or 30 700m.
But it does have its deep spots,like Calypso Deep in the Ionian Sea,

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which is just over 17,000ft,
or 5,200m deep.
So that's a lot of water.
And considering the six mile wide rockthat hit the Earth and killed
the dinosaurs could have createda tsunami thousands of feet high,
I don't think it's a stretch to saythat a smaller meteor,

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say, two miles across, could havepotentially pushed a wall of water
several hundred feethigh over the surface of Africa.
In fact, OzGeology,who we talked about a little earlier in
looking for the sediment chevrons,is looking at a possible impact crater
right in the Mediterranean,

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just to the southeast of Italy,which makes it right in line
with the chevron depositshe found in northern Africa.
So is this theory provable? No.
We do have plenty of factual evidence,but a lot of it is circumstantial.
And for the time being, at least,we're just going to have to keep digging

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and connecting dotswhere we can until the day someone finds
that one piece of irrefutable evidence
that can tie everything else together.
And I think if this actually
is the historical Atlantis,the evidence is out there somewhere.
We just gotta find it.

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For example, as I was falling down yetanother Google Earth rabbit hole,
I found this on the edge of the structure.
What?
Can I say with 100% certaintythat this is manmade?
No, I can't.
In fact, I found spots on the other sideof the structure that look pretty similar

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as far as collections of rocksthat look like thin slate,
for lack of a better term.
But this looks wayto organized to be natural.
But I don't know. What do you guys think?
I do think we need to have more bootson the ground and just off the coast,
combing every inch of the areato look for signs of ancient civilization.

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Maybe they're there.
And considering the enormousamount of land we're talking about,
we just haven't stumbled across them yet.
I had never even heard of this place
until we were researching our Atlantisvideo a few weeks ago.
So I'm pretty surethere are plenty of other people
out there who are hearing about thisfor the first time, too.

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And I think that sharing this informationto those who are
in the same boat can only be a good thing.
The more awarenesswe bring to the structure
as a possible site for the locationof the ancient city of Atlantis,
the more people we can get out thereto start looking
for that needle in the haystackwe would need to find

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to put an endto the question, once and for all.
March 12th, 1909.
A small blurb is printed in the Fridayevening edition of the Arizona
Gazette newspaper.
It pretty much just says thatthis guy named Kincaid from Lewiston,

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Idaho, took a boat down from GreenRiver, Wyoming,
where he started in October, to Yuma,Arizona.
That's almost 1500 miles of river.
Pretty impressive.
And it says he's only the second manto make the trip.
After brief mention of Mr.
Kincaid unearthing some interestingarcheological discoveries,

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the article states that other than losingan oar along the way, he enjoyed the trip
so much he wants to do it againnext winter with friends.
But on April 5th, 1909,the Avid Gazette readers
would see a follow up articlethat's a little more in-depth.
Turns outthere's a little more to the story.
Now, just to note here

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that since these articles are publishedonly about three weeks apart,
I am assuming that they are talkingabout the same trip,
since I think it's highly unlikelythat Mr.
Kincaid could have traveled
back up the Colorado Riverto the east end of the Grand Canyon
and floated his way backdown to Yuma again in that time frame.
It's not like going down the waterslide and running back to get in line

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for another run.
The second, more detailed versionof the trip goes something like this.
G.E.'s trip is not just for the fun of it.
He's actuallyon a mineral prospecting tour.
So as he's floating along, he'scontinually scanning
the sides of the river canyonsfor signs of mineral deposits.

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Floating his way through Marble Canyon,which is towards the east
end of the 270 mile long Grand Canyon,
he spies a change in the rock coloration
that could signalan area of mineral deposits.
So he stops his boat,climbs out, and starts making his way up
the 2000ftto where he saw the change in the rock.

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As he gets higher, he discovers some steps
that have been chiseled into the rock.
That's a bit unexpected.
He keeps climbing until he comes upto the entrance of a cave.
Chisel marks on the insidecave walls pique his curiosity.
He’s not sure what to expect,so he draws his gun and goes in.

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During that trip, I went back severalhundred feet along the main passage
till I came to the cryptin which I discovered the mummies.
One of theseI stood up and photographed by flashlight.
The main passageway is about 12ft wide,
narrowing down to nine feettoward the far end.
About 57ft in from the entrance,he finds the first set

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of these side passagesthat go off to the right and the left.
And off of those side passagesare a bunch of rooms about the size
of a living room,but some are as big as 30 by 40ft.
And these passages are as straightas any modern engineer could build.
But that's not all.
Over 100ft from the entrance is the CrossHall, several hundred feet long,

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in which are found the idolor image of the people's god,
sitting cross-legged with a lotus floweror lily in each hand.
The cast of the face is oriental,and the carving this cavern,
the idol, almost resembles Buddha, though
the scientists are not certain as to whatreligious worship it represents.

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Taking into considerationeverything found thus far, it is possible
that this worship most resemblesthe ancient people of Tibet.
He found enameled and glazed pottery
and vases and urns and cupsmade of copper and gold.
He found what looked to be grainery
12ft high,that you could only enter from above,

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with copper hooks on the edges,so you could lower a ladder.
And they still had seeds in them.
He found some kind of gray metal, similarto platinum, and rooms
that had remnants of what looked to bethe metal smelting process.
Now keep in mind those cups and urnsmade of copper and gold
and the gray metal as well.

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Those things would have had to have beensmelted for them to take those shapes.
Copper smelting started in the FertileCrescent civilizations around 5000 BC,
but wasn't a thing in the Americasuntil the European settlers
brought that technologywith them in the 17th century.
Yet Mr.
Kincaid also finds weaponssharp edged and hard as steel.

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The tomb or cryptin which the mummies were found,
is one of the largest of the chambers.
The walls slanting back at an angleof about 35 degrees.
On these are tiers of mummies.
Each one occupying a separate hewn shelf.
At the head of each is a small bench,
on which is found copper cupsand pieces of broken swords.

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Some of the mummies are covered with clay
and all are wrapped in a bark fabric.
And interestingly enough,
the cups and stuff that are sittingin front of the mummies toward
the bottom are simple and kind of crude,for lack of a better term.
But as the rows get higher,the items get more refined.

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Like their skills at metalsmithingare getting better over time.
Also, all of the mummies are men.
No women or childrenin this particular section, leading G.E.
to speculate that these must have been
the warriors,the protectors of the other inhabitants.
Another room he finds measures 40ft wide

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by 700ft long.
The only thing that's in itare tools that look like cooking utensils,
leading him to guessthat maybe it was a giant dining hall.
That's a big dining hall.
Then he finds another huge chamberthat turns out to be like the hub
of a wheel, a central pointfrom which radiate tons more passageways.

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By the time he's done, G.E.
estimates that he has discoveredseveral hundred rooms.
Given the massive sizeof this network of caverns, Mr.
Kincaid estimates that upwards of 50,000people could have lived
comfortably in this cliffsidecondo complex.
But with all of these discoveries,he does not find any animal bones

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or animal skinsor any other kind of clothing or bedding
that would give him any kind of clueas to who these people were.
If only they had written something down.
They did. Too bad we can't read it.
On all the urns or walls over doorwaysand tablets of stone
which were found by the imageare the mysterious hieroglyphics.

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The key to which the Smithsonian Institutehopes yet to discover.
The engraving on the tablesprobably has something to do
with the religion of the people.
Similar hieroglyphics have been foundin southern Arizona.
Interestingly enough,walking through hundreds of feet of dark
passageways and finding large roomsfilled with dead people,

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none of that seemed to bother G.E.
except one dark unventilated room.
There is one chamber of the passagewayto which is not ventilated,
and when we approached it, a deadly snakysmell struck us.
Our light would not penetrate the gloom
and until stronger ones are available.

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We will not know what the chambercontains.
Some say snakes,but others boo hoo this idea
and think it may contain a deadly gasor chemicals used by the ancients.
They don't hear anything.
For some odd reason, whatever light he had
didn't seem to want to penetratethe darkness of that particular room.

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Having no canaryto send into the coal mine, as it were,
he decided to leave this one room alone,
noting that the entire placefelt very heavy and creepy.
So after wandering around and checkingthings out for Lord knows how long, Mr.
Kincaid takes a bunch of pictures,gathers up some of the more interesting

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artifacts, loads them on his boat,and keeps on trucking down the river.
I gathered a number of relics,which I carried down the Colorado to Yuma,
from whence I shipped them to Washingtonwith details of the discovery.
And the people at the
Smithsonian in Washingtonmust be mighty impressed by what G.E.
sends them,

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because they immediately make plans,under the direction of Professor S.A.
Jordan,to send down another 30 or 40 people
to explore the caverns even further.
And as you would expect
from any operation that includesany aspect of the government,
the article in the Gazette also includesa very firm statement from Mr.

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Kincaid.
First, I would impress that the cavernis nearly inaccessible.
The entrance is 1486ft down the sheercanyon wall.
It is located on government landand no visitor will be allowed
there under penalty of trespass.
The scientists wish to work unmolested

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without fear of archeological discoveries
being disturbed by curio or relic hunters.
A trip there would be fruitless
and the visitor would be sent on his way.
So we're having a partyand you're not invited.
And guess what?
That cave party is still goingon, and you're still not invited.

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Fun fact.
Of the 270 miles of the Grand Canyon,only 120 of it
has been explored for possible caves.
And of that 120 miles,there are upwards of a thousand caves.
But of that thousand caves, only 30have been really explored and mapped.
One of those caves is 40 miles deep.

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That tells mewe have a whole lot of exploring to do.
Who knows what we may find.
We already have found evidenceof another unknown group
of cave dwellers that are being calledthe Stick People, because they left behind
these little stick peopleof all different sizes
that have been carbondated to at least 3000 years old.

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So who knows what else has beensitting there waiting to be discovered.
And many of these cavesthat have been mapped
are now fitted with bars at the entrance,so no one can get in.
Supposedly this is a measureto protect the habitat of different bats.
I don't know about you,
but I think bats are doing okayfor themselves in the world.

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But lest maybe two dismissive,I looked it up.
There are only two bat speciesin the entire American
Southwestthat are on the endangered species list.
The Mexican Long Nosed Batand the Lesser Long Nose Bat.
Well,that name is kind of a self-esteem killer.
The Mexican long nose batlives in the southwest,

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but not near the Grand Canyon.
And the Lesser Long Nose Bat,which does live around the Grand Canyon,
has made a comeback and is about to betaken off the endangered species list.
So I think the bats got this.
Why go to such great lengths to protectbat caves that are basically inaccessible
anyway, for batsthat don't need protecting?

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Which brings me to my next question.
If the cave is there,why is no one else found it yet?
Answer?
Because it's basically inaccessible.
Seems like it shouldn't be hard.
If one person found it, then by nowsomeone else should have, too.
However, consider thatscaling down the walls of the canyon

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at that point is almost impossible.
Water is very heavy to carry with youwhen you're climbing.
So you're not going to carrythat much of it.
So by the time you get downfar enough to get to the height
that the cave is supposed to be at,you're already out of water.
Now, I would have thoughtthat anyone looking for the cave
would go by boat, just like Kincaid did.

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But now, to go down that sectionof the river requires winning the lottery.
Literally.
They have a lottery drawing each yearto hand out permits
for anyone wanting to make the trip.
And it could take yearsbefore your name comes up.
And it's not a short trip.
It takes daysjust to get to that section of the canyon

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where the cave is supposed to be.
Then it can take weeksto traverse the rest of the river,
because there is no other placeto get out for hundreds of miles.
Not to mention that you must be certifiedfor class five rapids,
because the river gets a little crazyalong the way.
All that to say that getting thereby boat is not as easy as it sounds.

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Now there are a couple of guysnamed Rex Bear from LeakProject.com
and Jared Murphy from NotAliens.com
who've been studying the arealooking for the cave for a while now.
And on one of their trips,they start out with two cars,
leaving one in a public parking lotand loading
all of their gear into their super duperfour wheel drive Jeep.

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Because out in this area,there are no real roads,
so you can only get aroundwith a four wheel drive vehicle.
And they're out there just poking around,seeing what they can see in the area
right over the areathat the cave is supposed to be in.
One of the things that they haveis a camera with a super telephoto lens.

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And what do they spy?
A black Apache helicopter with gun turretslooking their way.
Okay, interesting.
And duly noted.
at the end of the day,
they get back to the parking lotand pick up their other car,
and there are three frat boylooking dudes in khakis
all standing around a carpretending to be on their phones.

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All three of themkeep throwing glances at Rex and Jared
while they're unloading their gear.
Then Rex and Jared look likethey're getting ready to go,
and the three frat boysstart getting ready to go.
But Rex and Jared don't go.
So the frat boys don't go.
These three guys hang out until Jaredand Rex finally leave the parking lot.

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They said these guys were so obviousit was laughable.
But why?
Jared rolled out a theorythat maybe it has something to do
with the uranium in the area.
Did you know that there are over 500 open
uraniummining permits for the Grand Canyon area?
But whatexactly did they think is going to happen?

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Two guys with backpacksfull of snacks and water and a really big
camera are going to go dig a hole
with their bare handsand find a big old nugget of uranium.
I don't think it works that way.
But between the helicopter surveillance
and the stooges, who drew the shortstraws in the parking lot,
it's pretty obvious that the governmentis still protecting something.

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Now, I wish I could say that'sthe end of the story, but you know that
we here at the in between always have tolook at the flip side of the coin,
whether we like it or not.
I gotta say,I don't like the other side of this coin.
Mostly because of one man, Joe Mulhatton.
See, as I was looking for any otherfollow up newspaper articles on G.E.

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Kincaid,I found this story from the Coconino
Sun on April 16th, 1909.
The reported discovery
of a mammoth underground cityof an ancient race in the Grand Canyon
seems to be a splendidpiece of imagination sent out
by some Manhattan ized individual.
Well,what does that mean to be Mulhattonized?

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So, of course I had to look it up.
And I gotta tell you, I'm starting to fallmore and more in love with history
every day.
Fun tangent.
To be Mulhattonized
is to fall under the influenceof the aforementioned Joe Mulhatton.
Who is Joe Mulhatton?
One of the greatest hoaxersto have ever lived.
Joe was a hardware salesman.
The kind of guy that would give youthe shirt off his back,

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and that everybody loved.
But evidently,hardware sales aren't exciting enough
because his favorite pastime for over40 years was tricking newspapers
into printing his fantastical stories asreal news events, just for the fun of it.
Starting around 1870 and going all the waythrough the early 1900s,

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Joe would send stories into newspaperswith tall tales,
including stories like George Washington'sbody is now petrified,
or a little girl who tied a bunchof helium balloons around her waist
and floated up into the sky,only to be saved by a sharpshooter
who popped the balloons one by oneuntil she came safely back to the ground.

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Or my personal favorite,
the magnetic cactus that had enoughpull Come to try pulling us in.
to attract everything from lizardsto cowboys and impale them on its cactus
spikes, and quickly dissolve the bodieswith its digestive juices.
In 1883,when Joe was just getting started,

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the American Antiquarian and OrientalJournal
thought it prudent to issue a warningto archeologists.
Joe Manhattan is a characterof some interest to archeologists.
His residence is in Kentucky,and his business
is to invent marvelous stories or lies.
He has invented seven storiesabout finding big caves,

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Masonic emblems,and other ridiculous things.
In 1888, Joe Mulhatton was includedin the Book of Prominent Men
and Women of the day alongside Mark Twain,
Walt Whitman, and Oscar Wilde.
In 1891, The New York Times declared.
Joe Hatton is known in every cityin the United States, and it's probably

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caused more trouble in newspaper officesthan any other man in the country.
His wild stories, writtenin the most plausible style,
have more than oncecaused the special correspondence
of the progressivejournals of the United States to hurry
from coast to coastto investigate some wonderful occurrence
which only existedin the imagination of the great Liar.

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This guy was so prolificand well known that,

according to the Museum of Hoaxes: During the 1870s and 1880s, (01:17:40):
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Joseph Manhattan wasperhaps the most famous hoaxer in America.
And what were his favoriteand most famous kind of stories to tell?
Ones about discoveries of cavesfull of amazing artifacts
of great archeological significancefrom ancient civilizations.

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He has been describedas a burlesquer of facts,
or as his friends would call him, a liar.
The most artistic, beautifuland consistent liar
ever turned loose on a nation.
In 1910, the year after the ArizonaGazette published the egyptian cave story,
it also published a fond tributeto Mulhatton

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and his talents,regaling many of his bigger whoppers.
However, it did not mention the Egyptiancave story of just the year before.
Now, with all that being said,I did not find anywhere that good old Joe
went so far as to set up the long con,so to speak.

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And remember that the Gazetteactually ran two stories on Guy Kincaid.
So while it could very well be a Mulhatton
set up, one-twopunch wasn't exactly his M.O.
Over the years, the legend of the lostEgyptian city within the Grand
Canyon continued to grow, and moreand more people started to investigate.

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Peter Hay of the website Sightings.comsent a letter to the Smithsonian
asking if they had any recordsrelating to the story.
The response it got back.
The Smithsonian's Departmentof Anthropology has searched its files
without finding any mention of a ProfessorJordan Kincaid
or a lost Egyptian civilizationin Arizona.

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Big surprise, right?
Okay.
Except that's not true.
First of all, I find it extremely hardto believe that in over 100 years
of existence that they've never employedanyone named Kincaid.
Second of all,they did employ a Professor Jordan.
Just not an S.A. Jordan.

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They actually had a 30 year
relationship with one David StarrJordan, known
not only as the father of ichthyology,The study of fish.
But also as a founderof Stanford University.
They knew this guyso well that they offered him
the jobs of National Museum Directorand Smithsonian Secretary, more than once.

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Not to mentionthat he had been on expeditions down
the Colorado Riverbefore, in 1889, with one T Kincaid.
A trip about which Jordan himselfpublished many articles.
So why not mention this guy?
Well, they may not want to calltoo much attention to that relationship,

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considering that David StarrJordan turned out to be a racist
eugenicistwho helped cover up a murder in Hawaii.
Ooh, didn't really see that one coming.
So we have a T. Kincaid versus a G.E.
Kincaid, and a D.S.
Jordan versus an S.A. Jordan.
Interesting coincidence.

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Almost too coincidental.
Is it possible that maybe the newspaperjust got the initials wrong?
Maybe.
Or maybe good old Joe
Mulhatton remembered reading the articleswritten by D.S.
Jordan a few years earlier,
and just used those namesto give more credibility to his hoax.

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Unfortunately,that's a possibility as well.
Another thing that the proponents
of the legend often pointto as corroborating evidence,
is that many of the landmarks in the areacarry Egyptian names,
such as the Isis Temple,the Osiris Temple, and the Tower of Ra.
I gotta admit, it kind of had meraising my eyebrow at first, too.

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However, a lot of those monumentswere named by a guy named John Wesley
Powell who went through the canyon in 1869
and 1872, on geological expeditions.
And just for extra context,people in America
were in the middle of an Egyptology crazeright around that time.

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And Powell didn't just use Egyptian names.
He also named things for other cultureslike the Venus,
Vishnu, and Zoroaster temples.
And this last point on the not trueside of the ledger,
just my own personal observation.
After looking at all of the mapsand the pictures and stuff,
the spot where the article saysthis cave is supposed to be, in Marble

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Canyon, is at a spot where the distancefrom the top of the canyon
to the canyon flooris somewhere around 3,500ft.
So Kincaid would have had to climbfrom the canyon floor
up 2,000 feet.
Well,here are some pictures of that exact area
from Rex and Jared and their super dupertelephoto lens camera.

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Looking at the walls of the canyon.
I just find it really hard to believethat a 2000ft climb
is even possiblewithout tons of climbing gear.
Now, maybe since Kincaidwas using this trip
as a prospecting trip,maybe he had that kind of gear on him.
But takes a whole lot of ropeto climb 2000ft.

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I guess it's possible.
But even with all of this information,I still have one more question.
Given the massive sizeof the network of caverns, Mr.
Kincaid estimates that upwards of 50,000
people could have lived there comfortably.
So where did these people go?

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Maybe they're still here.
It is a Hopi Indian legendthat their ancestors
once lived in an underworldin the Grand Canyon,
until fightingbroke out between the good and the bad -
the people of one heartand the peoples of two hearts.
Machetto,the chief of the good people of one heart,

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told his people,we have to leave the underworld.
But there was no way out.
The chief then caused a tree to grow up
and pierced the roof of the underworld.
So the people of one heart climbed out.
They lived and worked on the ColoradoRiver and grew grain and corn.
They sent out a messengerto the temple of the sun,

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asking the blessing of peace, goodwill,
and rain for the people of one heart.
That messenger never returned.
But when he does their lands, an ancientdwelling place will be restored to them.
So to this day, the old men of the Hopi
tribe can be seen at sundown,standing on top of their houses,

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looking toward the sun, watching
and waiting for that messenger to return.
All right.
I'm going to start offby telling you that this story starts
like this.

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Morphs into this.
and eventually degenerates into this.
We are traveling todayall the way to Peru.
Peru is no stranger to mummies.
They're all over the place.
Some of you may be familiar with the 1927discovery of 429 mummies

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on the Paracas Peninsula of Peru.
Now, a quick search of Paracasin Wikipedia will take you to a page
that talks all about the Paracas culture
and their frequentuse of skull modification.
In short, just like the Japaneselike to practice foot binding,
the Peruvians like to wrap the headsof their babies to make them conehead.

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Greetings.
No big deal.
It doesn't really change anything like IQor cranial capacity.
Just a different shape.
And those cone head skulls are not reallyeven all that uncommon.
They've been found in Hungary,ancient Germanic regions,
ancient Iranian regions, and even Sweden.

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What Wikipedia doesn't seemto want to talk about
are what have become knownas the Paracas skulls.
At first glance, they look likeany other modified mummy skull.
But this particular groupof skulls is different.
Not only do some of them have red hair,they have extra chiseled cheekbones
and no sagittal sutureon the top of their head.

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But they also have a cranial capacity way
bigger than humans, like 30% bigger.
So all of that is to set the stagefor the drama
that began to unfoldaround the end of 2016, around 120 miles
to the southeast of the Paracas Peninsulain the Nazca region of Peru.

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Yup. That Nazca.
Same area where you can find those famousNazca lines, the super huge
drawings in the sandthat you can only really see from the air.
Now, just for reference, just over 300
miles to the northeast of Nazcais Machu Picchu.
So this whole little area here is rife

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with ancient historyand priceless artifacts.
As you might imagine,Nazca is not the wealthiest area of Peru.
They do okay for themselves, but it's notan economic powerhouse by any stretch.
So what do you getwhen you add a mediocre, at best economy
and a priceless artifact rich environment?

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Huaqueros, or tomb raiders.
I seriously doubt they look like that.
Relics of ancient civilizationsand even entire mummies
are big black market business in Peru.
So it's not exactly the rarest thingin the world for people to make a side
hustle out of finding

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and selling anythingthat they can find out in the arid desert.
The first character in our little dramais Paul R.
Paul approachesa French guy named Thierry Jamin,
who is a well known archeologist in Peru
and president of the Inkarri Institute.
He contacts Thierry and says, hey,asking for a friend?

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Are you interested inlooking at these super funky alien
looking mummies we found?
After chatting for a while,we find out that the friend is Mario,
not his real name.
His real name would later be discoveredto be Leandro Benedicto Rivera.
Let's just stick with Mario.
More negotiationsensue, and Paul and Mario

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finally agreedto bring some of their samples to Thierry.
Remember thatthese guys are basically confessing
to a crime here,so they are covering their butts big time.
Antiquities theft in Peru is a big no no.
Mario tells Thierry that he and his crewfound a whole bunch of these things

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in some caves in the mountains,somewhere between Nazca and Palpa.
Thierry takes the samples aroundfor some preliminary testing
and being satisfied that,at least on a surface level,
they seem to be legit,he fires off a letter in early 2017
to the Peruvian Ministry of Culture,asking they've heard about this.

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Without waiting for a response whendoes the government do anything quickly?
- Thierry heads down to the Nazca areaof Peru to see the rest of the collection.
He and his team bring backa couple of small mummified heads
and a larger hand for X-ray analysisin February of 2017.
Based on those results,they start crowdfunding to raise money

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for DNA and carbon 14 testing to be done.
It only takes a monthbefore they hit over 125% of their goal.
At the beginning of April 2017,several samples are taken from
two of these tiny mummified bodiesand sent to various labs
around the world for testing.
This is when Jaime Maussan entersthe picture.

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Maussan has had a long awardwinning career in journalism in Mexico.
He is the face of the Mexican versionof 60 Minutes,
and he's had a showfor like 20 years on UFO investigations.
However,he kind of muddies the waters in this case
because of his past involvementin a couple of other cases.

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In 2015, he led an event called “BeWitness”, where event organizers
unveil a mummified bodyclaiming it to be an alien child.
The mummified corpse was lateridentified as a human child.
Then in 2016,he cries “alien” again with something
called the “Metepec Creature”, which laterturns out to be a skinned monkey

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and a “Demon Fairy”, which turns out to bethe remains of a bat,
wooden sticks,epoxy, and other unknown elements.
Now, I have no ideawhether this guy is a total fraud,
looking for a quick buck,which doesn't seem likely given his long
accomplished career in journalism,or if he just wants to believe so bad

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that his skeptic musclehasn't been exercised in a long time.
But whatever the case,he jumps into the Nazca Mummies fray.
And in May of 2017, Peruvian journalistJois Mantilla, accompanied
by a team of scientists sponsored by GaiaTV, arrive in Cusco, Peru,
where the mummies are being held,to start their own investigation.

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It's important to note that unlike Jaime,
who has a long history in the ufologyworld, Jois does not.
This is not his usual beat.
So he is starting with a clean slate.
More researchers are getting involvedand more tests are being performed.
And on November 19th, 2018, test resultsare presented to the Peruvian government

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in a hearing by independent groupsrepresenting a whole slew
of different disciplinesfrom Peru, Mexico, the US and Canada,
including some pretty heavy hittersin their respective fields.
Their respective conclusions,in a nutshell,
are that whatever these things are,they're not fake.

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They don't say they're aliens, just thatfrom what
they've seen so far,they deserve more in-depth study.
Remember now, this is notthe most popular project to be working on.
These guys are putting their reputationof their entire careers on the line.
Now, apparently, before the hearing,the Ministry of Culture,

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who I'm going to refer to as the MOCfrom now on was on board to be there.
But for whatever reason,they backed out at the last minute.
Official reactionto the findings of the hearing?
Crickets.
Jump ahead to August 1st, 2019.
Everyone who's been working on this caseto date manages to get four mummies

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to the University of Ica in Peru,where they are put through a large battery
of testing from more Peruvian scientists.
Jump ahead again to September of 2023.
Jaime Maussan presents bodiesto the Mexican Congress and says,
“We are not alone.”He is joined by Jose de Jesus Zalce

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Benitez, Director of the ScientificInstitute for Health of the Mexican Navy,
who says x rays, 3D reconstruction
and DNA analysishas been carried out on the remains.
They don't have any real answers yet,but they are working on it.
One month later, in October of 2023,

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a news story hits almost all of themainstream media outlets, showing
dressed up versions of smaller mummies
that had been confiscated by the MOC
from the Lima airportand taken away for testing.
Three months later, so January of 2024,the Ministry holds

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a press conference to show off the dollsand proclaim them as fakes.
What they don't tell youis that they have a statement
from the creator of the dollsthat, yeah, he made them.
He lives in the Nazca areaand made the dolls as souvenirs,
hoping to earn a little extra coin.

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But the MOC has chosen to keepthat the quiet part
and trot these dress wearing versions outfor the press to say, “See?
These are fake.
So by association, they're all fake.”
And right there with themis their henchman, Flavio Estrada,
an archeologist with Peru's Institutefor Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences.

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Jois Mantilla, the Peruvian journalist,actually stands up and challenges
the MOC, essentiallysaying that the ones you have right
there are fakes, but they are not the sameas the ones we have at the University.
But how would you know?
Because you've never bothered to come byand take a look.
Other than these two fakes.

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Estrada has never studiedany of the mummies
at the University of ICA or anywhere else.
So how can he see they're fake?
Flavio Estrada's response?
You're a liarand a shill for Jaime Maussan.
If you can't kill the message,kill the messenger.
Then, in April of 2024, an American team

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flies to Peru to take their crackat solving the mystery.
The team consists of DoctorJohn McDowell, a forensic odontologist
who worked on identifyingsome of the remains from 911,
and retired professorat the University of Colorado.
Doctor William Rodriguez, a forensicanthropologist with the Maryland
State Medical Examiner, and DoctorJames Caruso, a US Navy veteran

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who is now the City of Denver's ChiefMedical Examiner.
And John McDowell's son Josh,
a defense attorney out of ColoradoSprings.
Whatever equipmentthe university doesn't have on hand,
they bring in viathe Peruvian equivalent of U-Haul
so that the scientists don't have to takethe mummies from university property.

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They're afraid the MOCis going to try to take the mummies
because they've done it before.
But we'll get to the MOC shenanigansin just a moment.
At the conclusion of their testing,
a big press conference is held on April4th, 2024
to discuss some of the findings, issues,

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etc., streaming live worldwide,
when the Ministry of Culture decidesto crash the press conference.
They think one of the mummiesis in the room and they want it.
But they are sorely disappointedto find out they are skunked.
One of their officers takesthe mic and says they are filing

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suit to get possession of the mummies.
The reason the scientists don't takethe mummies off the university property
and didn'tbring any of them to the press conference,
is because this is not the first timethe MOC has tried to take the mummies.
The Ministry of Culture has triedseven times

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over the years to raid the university,to confiscate the mummies.
But and I love this part.
Because they never answeredthe original notification letter
from Thierry Jamin back in 2017,and never came out to investigate,
the mummies cannot be verified as comingfrom a designated archeological project.

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Which means they are not subjectto the Ministry of Culture's jurisdiction.
They have no right to take them.
The university tells them to gopound sand.
November 7th, 2024.,so just this past November,
the rector of the University of Ica, JorgeMoreno Leua,

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sends a letter to the Mexican Congresssigned by 11 professors,
certifying the authenticity of the bodiesthey studied.
The letter basically statesthat they have all come to the conclusion
that whatever these things are,they are genuine specimens
of a biological originthat were alive at some point,

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and they're not fabricated in any way.
That very night, the rector gets fired.
Also, this past November,the American team goes back down
to Peru to participatein a congressional hearing
on how to proceed in moving forwardwith studying these mummies.
I guessonly time will tell whether or not Peru

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decides to go all in or not.
So what is all the drama about?
What makes grown men resortto adult versions of, “I know you are,
but what am I?” Ladies and gentlemen,I present to you the Nazca Mummies.
Maria.
Montserrat.

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Wawita.
Victoria.
Alberto.
And there are many more.
According to Mario, over 100.
There are apparently sevendifferent species,
some more human like and talleraround a normal human height

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and some more reptilianthat stand like about two feet tall.
All are coveredin this white powdery substance,
which has been determinedto be diatomaceous earth,
which is a naturally occurringsoft sedimentary rock that is composed
of the fossilized remains of diatoms,

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tiny aquatic micro-organisms.
You've probably even used itwithout even knowing it.
It's used a lot for thingslike water filtration,
different abrasives like toothpaste,and even as an insecticide.
And it's all over the placein the Nazca desert region.
But to my knowledge,these are the only mummies
discovered to everbe covered in that powder.

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But the powder is probablythe reason we still have the mummies
in the generally good conditionthey're in today.
Diatomaceous earth, or DE, is a desiccant.
It absorbs moisture.
Not that moisture is a huge problemin the Nazca desert.
It averages about two millimeters of rainper year.

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One of the driest places on Earth.
But still, any moisture that they do getthat could foster
the growth of mold is quashed by the DE.
And remember, it's an insecticide.
So any insect activitythat would have happened, didn't.
So because of that amazing preservation,
we now have several humanoid beingsthat have gone through

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various levels of testingin different labs around the world.
One thing to note, though,not all testing is the same.
Not every countryhas the latest and greatest,
which is why the USteam is trying to convince Peru
to let some of themcome to the US for testing.
We can't cover all of them,so I'm going to talk about Maria,

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one of the full size mummies, Josefina,
one of the two foot versions, Wawita,an infant
that looks to be the same speciesas Maria, and Montserrat,
another female,a little smaller than Maria.
And just for reference, the DNA testingwhich we will get into more later,
has pegged these mummiesas being about 1800 years old.

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The most well known, and the one with,
I think, the most testing is Maria.
She's about 5.5ft tall.
Her bone structure is almost identicalto ours, with a few exceptions.
She has no real visible nose or ears,which is pretty common for mummies,
But the inner structure of the earis different than in humans.

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And her hands have three fingerswith four phalanges.
Phalanges are just the finger sections.
Humans have only three.
By the looks of the scans, the jointsbetween the bones are still intact.
Her cranial cavityis 19% larger than a normal human's.

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While the practice of head wrappingwas common in ancient Peru,
that only changes the shape,not the capacity.
Also, the thickness of the skullis much thicker than a human's.
And her feet are interesting.
Aside from the factthat she has only three toes on each foot,
they have the same basic bones,but the actual structure is different.

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The way her foot is built,it would never step flat onto the ground.
She would only be using her heel and toes
and would have to lean forwardwhile she walked to keep her balance.
And poor Maria had a really bad back.
Maybe from having to lean forwardall the time.
She has one crushedvertebrae and arthritis all over.

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Wawita, which means “baby” Quechua,the official language of Peru,
Bolivia and Ecuador, appears to bean infant of the same species as Maria.
There isn't
really a whole lot to say about Wawitathat hasn't already been said about Maria,
but we are going to hear more about Wawitaa little later.
So let's talk about Josefina.

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She is a specimen of the two foot variety.
And these guys are different.
Not only do the faceslook different with raised brow ridge.
Their bodies are way different.
Josefinaskeleton has something that no other
vertebrate species on Earth has.
Her spine is in the middle of her body,not against her back,

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which is the position of every spinein any other animal on the planet.
And according to the scientistswho examined her, they say that
the space behind her spine at the top,it's part of her digestive system.
Now, the lower part of the spinedoesn't have any room behind it,
and it kind of curves just a bit. Why?

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Well, that's the reason we call herJosefina and not Josef.
That curve is the same thingthat our spines do
when we're carrying a baby,as a way to make room as the baby grows.
And you guessed it!
Josefina is carrying eggs.
Which is part of the reasonthese smaller versions are considered
more reptilian than human, but alsobecause the way her neck is built,

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there's a possibilitythat it was retractable like a turtle.
Also, her joints are built different.
They're not the round balland socket joints that we have.
They're more like a flat planewhere the bone attaches.
This would make it so all of her jointscould only move forward and backward.
She didn't have the radial range of motionthat we do.

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Also, look at her head position.
If the shape of her headis due to head wrapping,
then the place where the spine connects tothe head would remain in the same spot.
But on Josefina it's not.
It's further back on the skull than usual.
Like Maria, Josefina’shands have three fingers.

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However, unlike Maria,
Josefina only has three phalangeson her hand and three on her feet.
So just like us.
And she has a bad back, too.
She has spots on her spine that look like
what could have been a paralyzing injury.
But interestingly enough, directlyacross from the area on her front side

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is this metal platethat seems to be fused to her skin,
like maybe it's some kind of correctionfor her injury.
The plate is made mostly of copper,
and it's pretty typical for her timeperiod.
Her ribs are not like any speciesthat has ribs.
Usually, ribsoriginate in the back from the spine,

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wrap around to the front and attachto a sternum.
Hers go all the way around like a ring.
And oddly enough,she has hollow bones, like a bird.
That's not human or reptile.
So who knows where that comes from?
Lastly, let's take a look at Montserrat.

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She's just a little smaller than Mariaand has many of the same characteristics.
But what makes her specialis that unlike Josefina
and her eggs, Monserratis carrying a fetus.
Rafael.
It's a little hard to
see him or her, but initial scans showwhat looked to be
three fingers and toes, just like mom.

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So there you have it.
Now we have to try and decide if they arereal beings, or are they hoaxes?
The argument that they're real is, well,they're real.
But the argument for them being fakeswould go something like this.
The huaqueros, tomb raiders,I just love saying that word.
Huaqueros!

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found some mummies, ripped offa couple of fingers and toes,
added some extra bones to make the fingersand toes look not human,
and covered their alterationswith a plaster
of diatomaceous earthto hide the evidence of tampering.
Okay, let's go piece by piecethrough the arguments.
And as usual,there are far more rabbit holes

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to go down on this onethan I have time to cover.
So we're going to hitthe ones that hit me.
Starting on the outside.
Let's first talk about the DE,the diatomaceous earth
It seems to have undergone some processto make it more of a powder,
which would make it not natural,unless the ancient Peruvians

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ground it up themselves.
Which I guess is possible.
But to make DE into a plasterthat would harden to any degree,
to make it into a kind of plasterthat any hoaxer would need
to keep the evidenceof tampering with the body a secret,
it needs to be mixed with a binderlike lime, clay or cement.

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But in numerous pictures you can seethe powder flaking off pretty readily.
If the hoaxers are tryingto cover up their misdeeds,
they probably should have picked somethingbetter than DE.
Fluoroscopy scans,which is like a 3D real time
X-ray, were conductedand showed no difference in bone density,

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which would most likely show upif the bones were borrowed
from a different bodyor a different animal.
But there are other,more precise tests that can
and should be done to know for sure.
The Russian team found tracesof a chemical called
cadmium chlorideon the surface of the bodies,

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which they say only became availablein the mid-19th century as a preservative.
They talk about how Peruviansfrom 1800 years ago
could not have had this chemical, implying
it has to be an advanced race.
However, they never talk aboutwhether or not it's possible
that it could be something donejust recently.

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Now I can't really see a single thingthat cadmium chloride is used
for today in Peru that even comes closeto archeology in any way,
so I can't even begin to speculateon how it would get there.
But it's still certainly a possibility.
John Perry from the YouTubechannel Stated Casually,

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makes some very interesting observations.
Not only does Maria's facelook an awful lot like any other mummy
from the Peruvian desert,which often lose their soft tissues
like their nose in their ears,but it would not be that hard
to remove the thumband the pinky of each hand
and sever the tissuebetween the remaining three fingers.

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You would get basicallywhat Maria's hands look like.
However, Maria has extra phalanges.
But if you're an industrious forgertrying to create something unique,
maybe you add some extras on therefrom other mummies,
like a macabre game of cooties.

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Scans of her fingersseem to show that the joint sleeves
between the finger bones are still intact,something that the examiners say
would be next to impossibleto reconstruct.
And X-rays of Maria's feet show a bonestructure very similar to a human's,
except that the calcaneus bone,or what we would call the heel.

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Maria's heel does not project backwardslike a normal human's does.
Orthopedists say this would mean
she would not have been ableto plant her foot flat on the ground,
and would have been walkingmainly on her toes and heel,
leaning slightly forwardto keep her center of gravity.
Now, if you have been followingthis subject at all,

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you may have heard a bit of adust up over the llama head theory.
In short,many people think that the mummy heads
are the brain casing sectionof a llama skull.
In fact,a video called “Show Me the Mummies”
from the Incredible HistoryYouTube channel even shows footage
of a llama skull that indeedlooks all like the mummy faces.

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That just about sold me on itbeing a fake right there and then.
But just to be thorough, I went to a 3Dmodeling website and looked up llama skull
and none of the three different modelsthey had uploaded
look anythinglike what I saw on that YouTube clip.
I even tried Alpaca Skull just for fun,

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since they seem to be just smallerversions of the same thing.
But that doesn't look right either.
But I will admit that the llama skulltheory has some merit.
If you want to jump down that rabbit hole,there is a link to a research paper
that talks about itin the list of sources in the description.
This paper from 2021looks specifically at Josefina’s head,

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and they do a pretty good jobof going through every part of the skull
and seemingly being honestabout where the llama head theory holds
and where it doesn't.
They even go so far as to commentin the conclusion section,
“Concerningthe remains of the head of Josefina.
They are biological in nature.

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At the available resolutionof the CT scanning,
no manipulation of Josefinaskull can be detected.”
But they still conclude in general
that Josefina’s headis the braincase of the llama.
Just a little side dish of interesting.
One of the authors of the paper,Jose de la Cruz Rios Lopez,

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a Mexican biologist,
was one of the scientists to testifyin front of the Peruvian government
at their hearing in 2018,in favor of the mummies
being real unknown entitiesworthy of further study.
Then three years later, comes outwith this paper that says Josefina’s
head is a llama skull,and has since retracted that stance

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and has jumped back into the real entitycamp. Wow.
While we're on the subject of Josefine,let's talk about those eggs.
In the X-ray, they're pretty hard to miss.
Bright white, egg shaped circles.
But let's take a look at anotherreptile x ray.
Here's the x ray of a turtlewho is carrying eggs.

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Noticethe difference between the two x rays.
Eggs are not solid in an x ray.
So I don't know what Josefina is carrying,but they don't look like eggs.
Now that we're talking about babies,
let's get back to Wawita.
Here is where the major cracksstart for me.

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The hoaxer theories claimis that the three fingered hands are made
by taking a real mummy,taking off the thumb and the pinky,
and slicingbetween the fingers down to the wrist.
When I startedto look at the scans of Wawita,
I can't help but noticethe areas of both her hands and her feet

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that look likesomething has been torn away.
Not to mention the picturethat actually shows a row of four
phalanges on her right hand,when logically there should only be three.
Looking at these scans, it's pretty hardnot to see
wherethe thumbs and pinky fingers used to be.

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So let's
look at some of the other issueswhile we're at it.
Josephine seems to have some random bone
just stuck right into her elbow.
Maybe all those scientists are missinga few things.
They spend a lot of time looking througheach section and talking about how,
you know, like having eggs and surrounding

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abdominal tissue would be hard to fake.
Same with the head.
And I totally get thatI may have missed a lecture or two,
but telling me that it would be hardto fake an abdomen isn't helpful,
because a forger’s not goingto reconstruct the thing from scratch.
They're going to splice togetherthings they already have on hand.

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But okay, let's get to the juicy part.
The DNA.
Samples were actually sentto a few different places.
By the way, the-alien-project.com
is like the official sitefor the real camp
that has all the scans and X-raysand test results that you can go look at.

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So the website shows that Maria
only shared about 30% of her DNAwith humans.
To put that into perspective, humansshare 50% of our DNA
with turnips, so 30% is pretty dang low.
That number comes from the testing doneat the lab in Mexico.

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However, the reportgenerated about the samples that were sent
to Canada states that the DNA
is highly contaminated.
In fact, according to them, every samplethey tested
contained both female and male DNA.
Here's the best part.
The lab can pretty confidentlysay that the samples taken from Maria

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from one of her vertebraeand from one of her
left toes,that those two come from the same person.
However,they cannot say with any certainty
that the sample from the palm of her righthand belongs to the same person.
Not to mention, there was an initial groupof researchers from Great Britain

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who were invited by the Inkarri Instituteto come
and look at the mummiesvery early on in the process.
They took their own DNA samplesand had them analyzed.
Steve Mera, who headed up that group, says
the results that they got backwere confusing at first.
They didn't make any sense.
That is, until they figured outthat the sample they had taken from

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one of Maria's phalanges had different DNA
then that from the very next phalange.
Both human, but two different humans.
So needless to say, this whole thing
is feeling more than a little sketch.
Then start adding in more information,

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like the fact that nobody knowswhere these mummies came from.
Mario has takena select few people to the cave,
but those people say there is no waythat's where the mummies were.
That the place is nowhere nearbig enough for all of them.
But that's not stopping Mariofrom continuing
to charge people thousands of dollarsto take tour groups to that same location.

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We know the huaqueros
are still
sellingmummies on the black market to this day.
That's big businessin their part of the world.
We're talking seven figuresfor one of these things.
And at least two groups of researchershad to pay
Mario money just to see Maria.

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They obviously only care about cashing in.
And given that it seems to be working,
what's more likely -that these tomb raiders found some mummies
and want to lend them to scienceto be studied for humanity?
Or that they have a taxidermy shop
set up somewhere creating alien mummiesas fast as they can.

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And it's not just the huaqueros.
Remember, Jaime Maussan?
Our over exuberant journalistwho just wants to believe so much
that he's easily been duped twice before?
Well, he posted on X a quote from DoctorJohn McDowell
from the American teamwho went down to Peru last April.

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The post starts with the quote from Dr.
McDowell, but then goes on to addthe names of some of the mummies,
Including Victoria, who'sone of the smaller two foot versions.
So Jaime just lumped them all together,inferring that the quote from Dr.
McDowell coversthat whole list as being real.

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The problem is that the American teamnever looked at the smaller mummies.
When the good doctor is asked aboutthe inference
made by Jaimeand about the smaller mummies..
he respondswith, “It would be foolish to state that
these bodies could represent individualsthat could have been alive,
let alonecapable of walking, flying, or swimming.

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Pleasedo not infer that we said otherwise.”
So Jaime doesn't look quite so innocentthis time.
Between him and the huaqueros
I think there's plenty of shadeto go around.
Once you add in the laughable DNAresults, the fact

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that Wawita and Josefinaare almost certainly fakes,
and if they're fakes, you have to assumethat the others are fakes.
All that together leads me to believethey're fakes.
I wanted so much to believe they are real.
But this time, I just can't.

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But here's what I don't understand.
Why would all the other researchers
risk their careers by signing off on this?
Obviously, none of them are sayingthese are alien beings,
just that there's enough smokethat it's worth looking for a fire.
I gotta admit, the sheer numberof academics involved in this project

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willing to testify before governmentcommittees to try to move
the ball of scientific study further downthe court,
makes me wonderif there really is something there.
Maybe being humanisn't quite what we all think it is.

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Ever since I was a
kid, I've been reading stories of Bigfoot,Loch Ness monster, UFO sightings,
ghost encounters, and wondering...whatWhat if these stories are true?
It's the passion to explore that questionthat made me start this channel.
And I'm pretty sure it's the same questionthat drives you to watch it.

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But today we're going to go beyond the eyeshine in your backyard tree line.
We're going to go beyond that shadowyou thought you saw out of the corner of
your eye.
We're going to broaden our horizonsand apply that same question...What
if?...toone of the biggest mysteries of all,
the entire universe.

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Ever seen this guy?
He probably looks familiar and he should,
because this guy has been carvedinto rocks all over the world
- Arizona, Armenia, Guiana, Spain,
the United Arab Emirates, and Italy,
all around the same time in history,about 10,000 years ago.

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And all are actually drawn to point
at the same area of the sky.
So the question becomes,what did they all see in that sky?
Now, look at this.
It was this picturethat made me want to dig a little deeper.
And this is not the only instance.
A man named Anthony Peratt,an acknowledged leading world expert

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on plasma discharge formations,has identified dozens of plasma formations
that directly correlate to pictureswe see on petroglyphs,
geoglyphs and megalithsall over the world.
How is this possible?
These formations have, to our knowledge,
only been produced in high techplasma research laboratories.

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there are a number of scientists out therewho are asking that same question,
who are not 100% convinced thatthe current track of modern cosmology,
that celestial bodies are ruled bygravitational forces, is the right one.
And they have an alternative.
One ruled not by gravity,but by electricity.

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Everything from the movement and magnetismof the smallest atomic particle
to the creation and destructionof the most massive galaxies.
And why wouldn't we consider electricityas a fundamental force in the creation
and continuousreshaping of the universe as a force?

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It's only 1000
billion, billion, billion,
billion timesmore powerful than the force of gravity.
This is the number one with 39 zerosfollowing it,
or ten to the 39th power.
But before we launch ourselvesover the cliffs of insanity Inconceivable.

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in trying to figure out how prehistoricman could know what a plasma formation
looks like, we need to chat about what
the Electric Universe Theory actually is.
So hang tight while I do a super quickrundown of how cosmology
got to where it is todayand how electricity fits into the mix.
We have Copernicus,a mathematician and astronomer,

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hanging outaround the turn of the 16th century,
who is the father of the heliocentricmodel of the universe, that says that
the earth revolves around the sun,not the other way around.
Interesting to note thathis full body of work was not published
until after he died for fearof retribution from the Catholic Church.
About 100 yearslater comes Johannes Kepler,

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who describesthe planetary orbits around the sun.
Then comes Sir Isaac Newton,about 50 years later, who adds gravity
to the mix of Kepler'sLaws of Planetary Motion,
which could also accountfor tidal activity,
the trajectories of comets,the precession of the equinoxes
and other phenomena, eliminating doubtabout the solar system's heliocentricity.

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Newton's laws are considered sacrosanctuntil over
200 years later,when Albert Einstein rolls up.
He studies Newton's Law of UniversalGravitation, but expands those ideas
into what would become his Theory ofGeneral Relativity,
which gives us the behavior of gravityat a large scale.
The theory not only describesthe relationship between space,

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time, gravity and matter,it opens the door
to the theoretical possibilityof black holes.
Interestingly enough,even Einstein couldn't make that leap.
He calls the theory unconvincing and saysthat they do not exist in the real world.
But cosmologists keep marching forward
with only math to back their theories.

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In the 1930s, astronomerFritz Zwicky has a problem.
The law of gravity relies upon mass.
The more mass, the more gravity.
So Fritz looking at different galaxiesand using the then current assumption
that the more lighta star gives off, the bigger it is.
He notices that the starsare not nearly big enough

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to account for the amount of gravityneeded
to keep those galaxies together.
So he decides there must be more masshanging around that we just can't see.
He calls the invisible stuff dark matter.
Problem solved.
But then astronomers observed thatthe galaxies appeared to be moving apart
as if some repellant forceis acting on them.

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So astronomers come up with a new forcecalled Dark energy.
Again, problem solved.
Amazingly enough,to make all of their math work
for all of this, the amount of dark matterand dark energy is calculated to be
about 96% of all matter in the universe,

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with visible matter making up only 4%.
Wow. So you can seewhy some scientists are thinking
maybe we're on the wrong track here.
How does electricity fit into all of this?
We'll get there in just a minute.
But first, let's talk just a smidgeabout the basics of electricity itself.

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There's obviously a lot more tothis explanation, and I will have links
in the description for some great placesto go to learn the more detailed version.
But for now, let's go high level.
the four states of matter -solid, liquid, gas, and plasma.
Now, the first threeI was taught in school.

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But if you're like me,plasma is a new addition to the list.
But simply put,plasma is matter in any state
where the atoms are eithermissing an electron or have an extra one,
making them eithera negative or positive electrical charge.
Any charged atom,either positive or negative,

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or a free floatingelectron, is called an ion.
Space, contrary to popularbelief, is not empty.
All that roombetween the stars and planets
and even galaxiesthat we can see is full of plasma,
a big soup of ions.
These ions are always seekinga neutral state, so will seek out anything

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that it can get its hands on to fillthat unbalanced electron state.
So they move.
that movement createsan electromagnetic field.
electromagnetic fieldthen shapes how the ions move
both inside and outside of the field,attracting more ions.

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As the number of ions grows,so does the electromagnetic field
around them, eventually causing the ionsto self-organize into groups called
Birkeland Currents, where the moving ionscreate an electrical current.
And it's these current ropes,these Birkeland currents

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that are responsiblefor the magic of an electric universe.
So imagine this soup of ionsthat over time
start organizingand moving through the universe.
There is no shortage of ionsaround to make it grow.
So they do.
Eventually two currents collide.

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Where they collide a spinningdisk called a plasmoid forms.
Now keep in mind that another ingredient
in the ion soup is cosmic dust.
And this dust is also sometimes charged.
So this spinning plasmoid creates
a super powerful whirlpool of energythat then attracts

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any charged cosmic dust and matter,like a moth to the flame.
And a galaxy is born.
But the creation doesn't stop there.
There are always more currentsbranching out
like the lightning boltyou see in a storm.
Those smaller branches then attractsome of the material collected

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by the previous galaxy creating plasmoid
and use it to create starsand then even further down planets.
And the current stringskeep going in a line
forming cosmic structures along the way,
like when you have multiple outletsin your house, all on the same circuit.

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So you can think of the starsas Christmas tree lights, where at night
you can see the lights,but not the wires connecting them.
Those twisted wiresare the Birkeland currents,
which actually twist around themselveslike the Christmas tree lights,
connecting everythingin the universe together.

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Now, that is an extremely high levelexplanation
of the electric universe theory.
There's way more math involvedthat would take way more time
than I have here to explain.
But just know that if you wantto dig deeper into the science behind
all of this, there will be resourceslisted in the description below.

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So back to our plasma formations.
Well, we know that any time you walkacross carpet in slippers in the winter
and then touch a doorknob,you're most likely going to get a shock.
That's an electric interaction between you
with one charge,and the doorknob with a different charge.
to the Electric Universe or EU theory,the same interaction

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takes place between celestial bodiescarrying different charges.
When they get closeenough, you get quite a reaction.
And on this much bigger scale,
we can also see the effecton the surrounding plasma as well.
If the scale is big enough,these plasma formations
could be seen for thousands,if not millions of miles.

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And if the interacting bodiesare big enough, i.e.
trillions,maybe quadrillions of charged particles
flowing between the two, this interactioncould last for a long time.
How long?
Well, long enough for differentcivilizations to create entire
mythologies that try to make senseof what they are seeing.

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Now on first glance, the separatemythologies of ancient civilizations
may seem to be different from one another,but they're not.
Time and time again, the samethemes can be found.
They may look different, but at their corethey're the same.
The most well-knownexample is the Great Flood story.

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Every ancient culture on every continent
has this story somewhere in their history.
There's also the idea of a motherEarth goddess who at some point
turns on herpeople and rages always with wild hair.
But an even better exampleis the fiery dragon in the heavens.

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There is no earthly counterpartto this being.
So how is it that separate civilizationscome up with the same unearthly creature
that has no basis in reality?
More on him in a moment.
If we look at the multitude of drawingsleft behind,
everything from cave paintings to ancientEgyptian tomb writings to Greek art,

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we see lots of different symbolsthat appear in all of them.
like the Great Wheel of Heaven,the Lightning Sword,
the star in the crescent,the eye in the hand.
What is clear is that these picturesand stories handed down to us
from long ago are referencingwhat people witnessed in the heavens.

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never stories of events that happenedon the ground, but in the sky.
But the things they sawsure aren't there in the sky today.
The stories of hellfireraining down from heaven,
like is written about in many mythologiesis not something we've experienced.
Yeah, lightning from a storm can be scarywhen you don't know what it is

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or when it will strike.
But I wouldn't put that inthe same category as a rain of hellfire.
So exactly what sky were they looking at?
How did all of these different culturesdocument identical
heavenly eventsthat have no bearing on what we see today?

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What if their sky was different than
The interesting,
and in my opinionthe most intriguing part,
is that the EU theory doesn'tjust offer an alternative explanation
to how the universe works,but it also shows evidence
that at some point in our history,the entire Earth

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bore witness to the inspiring powerof this universal force.
What evidence, you ask.
Well, remember this guy?
This is not the only figurethat can be recreated using plasma.
Not even close.
So if we consider the ideathat the skies of old

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had something electrical goingon, we can start to make sense
of many other aspects of the storiesand pictures handed down to us.
Using known plasmadischarge patterns and behaviors,
lots of unexplainable piecesstart falling into place.
Assuming that somethingelectrically monumental

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was happening in their sky, what was it?
Now here, my friends, is where we get towhat I think
is the most mindblowingaspect of this whole thing.
According to the EU experts,want to know what was in their sky?
Saturn.
And not like we see Saturn today aspractically just another star in the sky.

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Saturn as another sun.
And not just another sun,but the first sun.
How do we know this? They told us.
Keep in mind thatjust because something doesn't exist today
doesn't mean it never existed.
Take the Twin Towers in New York City.
If you go there today,there are only things there that tell you

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they existed.
But we know they did because there'sprobably a million pictures of them
as well as written documentationto back up the photos.
So we know they were once there.
Same goes for the Buddhas of Bamiyan,two 6th century statues
carved into the side of a cliffin Afghanistan.
The Taliban governmentdeclared that they were idols and ordered

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that they be destroyed.
They were blown up in March of 2001.
So they're gone now.
But we still have pictures and even video
to show why they are no longer there.
The same goes for ancient civilizations.
The medium of documentation is differentsince all they had to work with
was drawings.

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But the documentation, esoteric as it maybe, is still there,
if we care toAnd what does their documentation tell us?
Well, the stories start at a timereferred to as the Golden Age.
For the Hindus, it was the Perfect Age.
The Iranians called itthe Age of the Brilliant Yima.

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The Chinese, the Age of Perfect Virtue.
The Danish, Peace of Frodi.
It was paradise. The Garden of Eden.
It was a time of peace,stability and prosperity.
The Earth was so abundantthat men didn't have to work
and lived very long, peaceful lives.

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A time when “heaven was close to earth”,
with one dominant feature of their sky.
The Great Wheel of the Gods.
This wheel is not what we knowas the sun today.
It didn't move across the sky.
It was stationary.
And it wasn't made of just one thing.
It was made of three things together.

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The first was Saturn.
What ancient civilizationssaw as the first king.
The one king beforethere were any kings on earth.
He was such a great king that he is
the one responsiblefor the paradise here on Earth.
collective memoryof the greatness of the Golden Age

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would be forever rememberedwith the weekly ritual of Sabbath,
the most sacred day of the week, observed
Saturday or Saturn's day.
second is the mother goddess, Venus.
For the Greeks, Aphrodite.
For the Sumerians, Inanna.
She is usually referred to as a comet

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who shown in the sky with aweinspiring beauty.
A beautiful princesswith long, fiery hair.
But Venus has a dark side.
After she is knownas the beautiful princess, she transforms
into what the Babylonians called the WitchStar, her locks of beautiful,
flowing hair changing into wild,chaotic serpents.

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Finally, third, the warrior or hero God
Mars, also known as Hercules, a coyote
or raven to the Native Americans,or Horus to the Egyptians -
all born to fight the chaosmonster, the dragon I mentioned earlier.

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And there are countless pictures
showing these planetsall in horizontal alignment, “Where
an arrow could piercethe heart of the gathered
Enter a guy named Immanuel Velikovsky,
a Russian-American psychoanalystand writer, who went back
into ancient texts of mythology

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and proposed a mind blowing theory.
What if during the mythical Golden Agethe Earth was a satellite
of another planet - a gas giant, Saturn?
Meaning we once,within the timespan of human history,

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had an entirely differentplanetary arrangement.
If we take the ancient historiansat their word
with their descriptionsof what actually happened,
a very different pictureof early history emerges.
But thankfully, we don't have torely solely on their word.

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We have the pictures to back it up Now,I'm pretty sure that what I'm about
to lay out for youis going to blow the minds of some of you.
Sure blew my mind.
So remember thateverything that I'm about to describe
comes directly from historical records,
ancient drawings and art, or both.

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So just ask yourself, “What if?”The solar system we know
today is made up of nine plants - first
Mercury, then Venus, Earth and Mars.
Jupiter, then Saturn, Uranus, Neptune,and finally distant Pluto.
Yes, I still consider poor Pluto a planet.

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In the ancient planetary system,they only knew of four
- Saturn, Venus, Mars and Earth.
Saturn is seen as a huge stationary bodyat the celestial pole,
the single point in the skywhere everything rotates around it.
So from our point of view, it never moves.

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Saturn, Venus, Mars and Earthall move together in a line
as the groupsimultaneously revolves around the sun.
This planet group circlesaround its own center of gravity,
and they're extremely close together,close enough to interact
with each othergravitationally and electrically.

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Venus can be seenright in the middle of Saturn,
and Mars is right in front of Venus.
And they all appear as giants in the skybecause all four planets
are pretty close together,relatively speaking.
Jupiter is there, too,but it's behind Saturn, so you can't see.

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The entire systemis moving through a diffuse
cloud of gasilluminated by our current sun.
What that means for usis that there is no clear distinction
of night and day, just an ever present,never changing, hazy dimness.
At some point, gaseous materialor dust stretches from Venus outward

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toward Saturn.
At first,these radiating streams would appear
as either a three or four pointed starlike pattern.
Over time, the dust cloudwe're floating through dissipates
and a more clearly defined cycleof night and day begins.
And now we can also seea crescent of light

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on the edge of Saturncreated, from the light, from the sun.
And as the earth rotates on its axis,the crescent
visually turns around the polar center.
But things start to change.
The somewhat stable streamscoming from Venus toward Saturn
start to multiply, signs of changes to theelectrical connection between the two,

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as Mars starts to get pushed aroundby energy
fluctuations known as resonance.
And keep in mind to that,the look of the electrical streams
between Venus and Saturn would changedepending on what part of the world
you're looking at it from.
This differential might changethe interpretation by human eyes

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from a flower to a clamshell.
Mars’s orbit starts to wobble andoscillate back and forth between us and
it appears
to come down from its central positionas it moves closer to the Earth.
It returns to its spot in the middle,then comes down even more,

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growing bigger to us here on earthevery time it does.
When it visually drops below Venus,we can now
see a contrail of material stretchingbetween Mars and Venus.
it continues to descendand actually get closer
to us, a contrail of gas and dust begins

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to make its way towards Earth.
Venus and Marsboth start moving side to side -
the trail of gas, ice and debrisspiraling between the two planets.
Eventually, the spiraling material gathersinto a ring around Venus.
As our whole little system movesthrough space,

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that appearance of the band changesdramatically.
Mars continues bouncing up and down,or getting closer and retreating,
with trails of atmosphereand other material
stretching closertoward the Earth with each descent.
Eventually, Mars gets close
enoughthat this material trail reaches the Earth

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with Armageddon like effect.
When the dust literally settles,we see Mars moving away again,
but taking a stream of gasand dust with it,
making it look likethe apex of an illuminated column.
The band encircling Venus gradually opens.
The four streams of comet like materialstart

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to radiate from Venus toward Saturn again.
And the material stretching from Marsto Earth retreats.
But the once unmoving configurationis no longer stable
and collapses, with Saturnmoving off, revealing Jupiter
for the first time to the eyeswatching from here on Earth.

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Surprise! Another huge planet.
Not surprisingly,these celestial events are followed
by a period of great confusionand upheaval.
After all, we just witnessedthe king of our skies disappear.
And as Venus is moving aroundlooking for her place in the sky,

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the band and radiating materialbetween her and Mars
collapses, spiraling and scatteringinto whirling pattern.
The linear configurationnow visually dominated by Jupiter,
actually comes back for a while, but again
falls apart with all five planets,including Earth,

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moving into anew, more remote equilibrium.
What an epic idea.
And I know what you're thinking.
No way.
This is way too far out there to possiblybe real.
Show me some evidence.
Obviously, we have no directevidence of the series of events.

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None of us were there to witness it.
And those that were didn'thave the technology to record it.
All we have is circumstantial hearsay,so far.
arguments have been wonon circumstantial evidence.
So what if I told you there's more?
to find it?
We just have to turn our attentionback to Mars For a long time, scientists

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thought Mars was a geologically deadrock with a worn down surface.
But since we started sending probesover there in the 60’s,
we've been pleasantly surprisedby the interesting features found there.
Now geologists look at the many mountains
and valleysand apply the same geological principles
that apply to Earth, like the mountainsmust have been formed by volcanoes.

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the formations we see there do not matchour understanding of volcanoes.
So either the geological rulesare different on Mars
or they were built by a different force.
Mars has a very famous and easily
recognizable feature, VALIS Mariners.
Valleys Mariners.
is a canyon system largerthan any canyon on any planet

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or moon that stretchesalmost a fifth of the way around the
entire planet - longer than the distancefrom New York to San Francisco.
If you're thinking that this is the resultof erosion, think again.
The entire valley is a depressionthat is missing
3 million cubic miles of material.

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Where did that go?
There is no evidence of any water outflowpattern.
And a part of the canyon complex, Hippies.
Chasm is completely self-containedand even NASA admits
it was not formed by erosion.
Not to mention the myriadof what looks like scoop marks all over -
like someone just shoveled out some dirtand carried it away.

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Earthly geologic forcesdid not sculpt this planet.
what did? Well, by this point.
I would hope that you wouldn't be toosurprised to learn that the unique surface
features of Mars have already beenreplicated in a laboratory.
Yep. Prolonged electrical arcing makes
almost identical channels inside channelsas the ones visible in valleys.

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Mariners And where did the 3 million cubicmiles of dirt go?
Well, Some would have undoubtedly rainback down on to the surface,
which could be why we see miles upon
miles of rocks strewnabout like a debris field.
But some would have beenejected into space.

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Remember the trails of materialthat stretched from Mars to either
Venus or Earth,when Mars got too close to either one?
Well,any electrical connection of that size
would have caused the massiveelectrical arcing needed to cause
the kind of damage we see valleysMariners, And the gravitational connection

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could have carried Martian debrisall the way to the earth.
And we have the Martian rocks on Earthto show for it.
interestingly enough, almost all culturesrefer to their hero warrior,
their version of the Mars archetypeas having a scar.
Some stories, even as detailed to saythe scar came from lightning.

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But valleys.
Mariners was completely unknownuntil the Mariner 9 Orbiter discovered it
in 1972as it passed over the Martian surface.
So how did all of those ancient cultureswho existed
well before the invention of the telescopeknow that Mars had a scar?

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Unless the planet were close enough
for them to see with the naked eye.
some extra food for thought.
And just in case you thought thatthe ideas I have presented in this video
today is all the proponents of ElectricalUniversal Theory have to offer, it's not.
Unlike modern cosmology that is consideredthe queen of the sciences,

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wielding an iron fist
over the branches of sciencethat fall under her umbrella, where
if you step out of the circle of presentlyaccepted theory that she governs,
you can lose your entire career,the EU community is different.
Back in the early 2000’s, two gentlemen -David Talbot,

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an American mythologist and author,and Wal Thornhill,
an Australian astronomer,physicist, electronics expert,
author and international lecturer,
both of whom, by the way, were hooked
on Velikovsky’s work came togetherand spearheaded a mission
to bring the EU modelof the universe to the world.

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The tip of that spearhead, founded in
2004, is the Thunderbolt Project.
The ThunderboltsProject is the largest repository
of information on all aspects of EU.
The project is an extremely collaborativegroup of contributors, both past
and present from all areas of science,all coming together to add their knowledge

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to the growing body of informationneeded to begin a paradigm shift.
Not necessarily to ditch the currentstandard model of cosmology,
but to open up the lines of communication
so that all ideas can be heardand studied on their merit.

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Since the founding and outreachof the Thunderbolts Project, David, Wal,
and the third leg of the EU juggernauttripod, Donald Scott - a retired
professor of electrical engineeringfrom the University of Massachusetts
Amherst - have consulted onsomething called the Safire Project.

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The Safire Project's goal is to testthe theories
that the Sun is an electricalbody - by building one in a
And just a little hint of their
None of their experimentsso far have ruled it out.

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So, per usual, life is never simple.
I started with the storyabout a cave system under Death Valley,
and ended up with a labyrinth of factsand legends
that rivaled the cave system itself.
So let’s start at the top,where most people might be familiar
and work our way deeper into this crazyrabbit hole.

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Death Valley, much like the present daySahara desert region,
used to be green and lush,with lakes and springs everywhere.
Not so much anymore.
Now it's considered the hottest placeon Earth,
with several hotweather records under its belt.
It got its nowinfamous reputation during the 1840s,

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when people were flooding into Californialooking for their personal pot of gold.
People usually followed the Old SpanishTrail, which was a trade route
from Santa Fe, New Mexico,to Southern California and the LA area.
But I guess some were either lookingfor a shorter route to central California,
or a smoother ridethan the established route,

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which skirted south of the DeathValley area.
Several parties veered further north
and found themselvesin the belly of the beast.
One such group was the Bennett-ArcaneWagon Train Party.
They saw the Panamint Mountain range,thought
it was the Sierra Nevadasand headed that way.
Not having the resourcesto make it all the way to the mountains,

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they were stuck in this sandy furnacefor a month before being rescued.
Only one person died, but it was asolid month of hell for everyone else.
On their way out of the valley.
One member of the wagon trainlooked back at the blistering wasteland
and shouted, “Goodbye, Death Valley!”And the name just stuck.

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Those of you regular perusersof the stranger parts of the world
may recognize the tale of the DeathValley caves.
In 1931, two guys, Dr. F.
Bruce Russell and Dr. Daniel S.
Bovee, are roaming around Death Valleylooking for anything of value.
Doctor Bovee is an archeologistwith excavation

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experienceat the cliff dwellings of New Mexico.
But Doctor Russell is actually a retiredphysician from Cincinnati,
who moved out west for health reasonsand decided
to start a new prospecting hobbywhile he's there.
While sinking a new shaft, he accidentallyfalls through the ceiling of a cave.
Once the dust clearsand he gets his bearings back,

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Russell discovers that he's sitting inan underground maze of tunnels.
Bovee joins him, and together they explore
a network of passagesstretching in all directions.
After hoursof wandering around in pure fascination,
they follow this oneparticular tunnel and stumble upon
the mummified remains of three giantsstanding 8 to 9ft tall,

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which Bovee datedto around 80,000 years ago.
They're clothed in jackets and shortpants from
what looks to be grayish sheepskin, but
it's not sheepskin, and they have no ideawhat animal it comes from.
They find artifacts and hieroglyphsthat resemble those of either
Native Americans, Egyptians, Masons,

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or the lost continent of Atlantis,depending on who's telling the story.
How would they knowif the symbols were from Atlantis?
They continue on and find anotherlarge room with perfectly preserved
remains of several animals,like tigers and elephants.
By the time they're done, they count 32
tunnels, spreading out at least 180 miles.

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So they're thinking archeologistsare going to be all over this.
Not so much.
Mainstream archeologists took one look attheir claims and said, I don't think so.
Russell and Bovee pretty much say,
and join up with a
company called Amazing ExplorationsIncorporated, which is formed by investors

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to pay for them to go back to the caverns,
which of course, they can't find again.
At this point, Bovee kind of fades away,but Russell keeps looking,
and it's on one of these many expeditions
to relocate the cavesthat he vanishes in the desert
with only his car, with a blown outradiator in his suitcase inside.

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The only things ever to be found.
That is pretty muchthe popular version of this tale.
The only reason we know about itis because a guy named Howard E.
Hill recounted the story 16 years later,
while giving a presentationto the Los Angeles Transportation Club.
That presentation was picked up,and the story published in an article

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in the August 5th edition of the San DiegoUnion newspaper.
But interestingly enough,if you read that article,
it says a whole lot morethan the popular version of the story.
The article states that Russell didgo back in 1947.
And that the day before Hillgave the presentation, several

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well-preservedmummies were removed from the caverns.
And that someone by the name of Dr.
Viola V.
Pettit,who had helped with the excavations around
Petra in Jordan,would be inspecting those mummies.
So where are the mummies?
And what happened to Doctor Russell?

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The whole thingjust kind of fades away into history.
But believe it or not, this is notthe only tale of caves under Death Valley.
In 1932, so one year after Russell'sinitial discovery,
a book called Death Valley Men by Bourke
Lee talks about two men, Jack and Bill,

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who fall into a tunnel near Wingate Pass.
They walk 20 milesthrough this tunnel system
that's illuminated by a greenish yellowglow from lights
powered by subterranean gases,before they run into a treasure
filled tomb of mummified warriorswith gold armbands and spears.

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They actually grab some stuffon their way out,
but claim they are robbedwhen they get back to the surface.
And just like Drs.
Russell and Bovee, they can't findthe entrance again, either.
They don't give up, but vanishon one of their trips
into the Panamint Mountain rangeto look for it.

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And even earlier than that, in the 1920s,a guy named White
who was prospecting that same WingatePass area finds, you guessed it,
a labyrinth of underground tunnelsfilled with hundreds of mummies
dressed in leather, markings on the wallthat look like Egyptian hieroglyphs,

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and treasure galore, all lit
by greenish yellow subterranean lights.
When he finally makes his wayto the other end, he finds himself
halfway up a mountainoverlooking Imperial Valley.
He believed that mountain entranceused to be a dock,
and that Imperial Valleyused to be underwater.

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In one version of the story, White goeshome,
gets his wife and another prospectornamed Fred Thompson, and goes back again.
But there's no record ofwhat happened to them.
In another version,White makes a deal with the Smithsonian,
who takes everything insideand seals the entrance.

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But a Paiute trapper named TomWilson hears White's tale
and believes itwith every fiber of his being.
Tom's grandfather used to tell talesto his family
of an underground city,lit by greenish yellow lights,
that was the home of a race of fairskinned people

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who spoke an unknown languagethat wore leather clothing.
That started an obsessionin Tom to find that city
that lasteduntil he died in the late 1960s.
And what's a good storywithout a good conspiracy?
That Wingate Pass area,where most of these discoveries are said
to have taken place,was gobbled up by the government in 1942

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as a part of the ChinaLake Naval Weapons Center,
and made off limits to the public.
Why am I not surprised?
But that is not yetthe end of our tunnel adventures.
Right in the same timeframe, 1934, a man named G.
Warren Shufelt,a geophysical mining engineer,

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got permissionfrom the County of Los Angeles to dig
a mine shaft intowhat was then called Fort Moore Hill.
The landscape of the area has changedquite a bit since then, but it's somewhere
around the current FortMoore Place between downtown L.A.
and Dodger Stadium.
He'd been working for months alreadywith a device called a Radio

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X-ray that he invented and had been usingin other mining operations
that can show himnot only voids in the ground under him,
but returns different signaturesfor different mineral deposits.
Pretty handy for a mining engineer.
So he'd been mapping outwhat he asserts was
a maze of catacombsand rooms filled with gold.

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But he really doesn't understandwhat he's looking at until he's introduced
to a Hopi Indian from Arizona namedLittle Chief Greenleaf, also known as L.
Macklin, who tells himthe Hopi legend of the lizard people.
According to Little Chief Greenleaf,what Shufelt has found is one of three
great underground cities

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dug by the lizard people,after a great catastrophe 5000 years ago,
which they describeas a huge tongue of fire
which “came out of the southwest,destroying all life in its path,”
with the pathbeing several hundred miles wide.
The lizard people decidedwe're not doing that again,

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and built these three underground citiesusing some chemical process
to create the tunnels instead of shovels.
The city has lower tunnels that draininto the ocean, whose tidal changes
force fresh air into the upper tunnels,providing ventilation.
These complexes are so big

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that they can house thousands of familiesin underground apartment buildings,
feeding them all with some kind of earthbased, imperishable food supply,
making them
self-sustaining for long periods of time.
According to Shufelt,the tunnel system is shaped like a lizard,

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with the head located under Dodger Stadiumand its tail somewhere under LA's
Central Library, and a particularly largegold hall under the LA times building,
including 37 gold tablets
measuring four feet by 14in wide each.
Between a sheepskin mapprovided by some of Shufelt’s colleagues,

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supposedly hinting to the locationof Spanish gold treasure
located in roughlythe same place, and Shufelt’s proof
that he had found the same thing,the LA Board of Commissioners gave Shufelt
the okay to dig, with the stipulationthat if anything is found,
LA County gets

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Over the next couple of months,
Shufelt dug his shaft down 250ft,
far from the thousand feethe thought would be necessary.
But large boulders and water table issuesbecame a serious issue.
Eventually, L.A.
County said enough and revoked Shufelt’spermit.
And Shufelt, and his Radio X-ray machine

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were pretty much never heard from again.
But if you're thinkingthis is the end of our story, try again.
This is where it gets juicy.
Let's start with the first evertale of there being caves under Death
Valley - the Paiute legend of Shin-au-av,
also known as Ghost Land or God's Land.

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The chief lost his wife,and the grief is so great
that he decides he's going on a questto the Land of the Dead to get her back.
He'd rather dietrying to get her than live without her.
That's so romantic.
So he sets off, entering the undergroundcaves that will take him there.
He has to defeat all kinds of demonsand beasts along the way.

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But he finally makes it to a bridgethat crosses an endless chasm below.
But again,he'd rather die than live without her.
So he crosses the narrow bridge and enters
a virtual Paradise on the other side.
He's met there by a Paiute maiden,
whom he tells of his reasonfor being there.

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The maiden takes the chiefto an amphitheater
filled with spirits of the dead,all dancing and rejoicing.
She tells them, wait there.
His wife will come.
And when she does, he is to take her back
over the bridgeand away from the Land of the Dead.
And most importantly,he is not to look back.

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It takes daysand thousands of rejoicing spirits
filing past himbefore he finally finds his wife.
He takes her hand and togetherthey cross back over the narrow bridge.
On their way back home.
But the chief just can't resist.
He takes one little glance back,and when he looks forward again,

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His wife is gone.
He continues his journeyback to his people
and never stops telling themof his experience in Shin-au-av.
Now the reptilian part of the Hopi legendseems to be a new addition,
but an age old tradition is of theant people.

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The Hopi creation myth tells usthat we are currently in the Fourth Age,
with the previous three agesending in major catastrophes,
bringing mankindto the brink of extinction each time.
When the cataclysmat the end of the Third Age happens,
the Hopi are led by a weird cloud by dayand a star by night,

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until they run into Sotuknang,
the sky god and leader of the Sky people.
He, in turn hooks the Hopi up with theant people who teach the Hopi
to be industrious, gatherfood in the summer for the coming winter,
live in peace with each other, and obeythe plan of creation.
The Hopi call the ant people “Anu-Sinom”,

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Anu meaning ant and Sinom meaning people.
But let's take it one step further.
So the Hopi word for ant is anu,
and their word for friends is Naki.
Say it with me.
Anunnaki.
So here's the partwhere grok tells me that I'm nuts.

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But if you take into considerationthat the Lizard People legend
is a fairly new addition to Hopitradition, is it possible
that it's a mistranslationor something of the ant people legend?
I, for one, think that's fairlyreasonable, since the actual legend
of a race of people living in undergroundtunnels is exactly the same.

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So is it that much of a stretch
to go from lizard people to ant people,
to what some people believethe Anunnaki actually are?
What we know today as the gray aliens?
And considering that in the Hopi legend,they are led to the ant friends, the
Anu Naki by the skyGod, is it so far fetched to think

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that maybe there's a link to the Sumeriansky people, the other Anunnaki?
Mind.
Officially blown.
So, is any of this real?
Well, Howard E.
Hill did give the presentationto the Los Angeles Transportation Club.
And G.
Warren Shufelt was a real mining engineerwho got permission

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from LA Countyto dig a shaft in search of gold.
Unlike some of our other topics,this one takes place not that long ago,
in the grand scheme of things,making at least the people
involved verifiable with 20th centuryrecord keeping.
But I have to admit,there is a lot of speculation here.

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I have no idea if a deal was actually madewith the Smithsonian.
They probably wouldn'ttell us if they did.
And I can't find any info about Dr.
Viola V.
Pettit, who was supposed to bethe one examining the mummies,
except that she was oncea member of the Royal Asiatic Society
of Great Britain and Ireland,
which sounds like somethingan archeologist might join.

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But that's all I can find.
As far as the connectionbetween the lizard people, the ant people,
and the great alien Anunnaki,that's all straight out of my head.
But you gotta admit,the correlation is intriguing.
And everything else is legend.
For the most part, legends are legendsbecause they can't be proven.

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However, there are more and more legendsbeing proven to be real every day.
Maybe the proof of gold under DeathValley is just
one more tunnel cave-in away.
Modern technology is a beautiful thing.

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The fact that you can order a pizzawhile lying on the beach in Morocco
and have it delivered toyour mom in Boise, is truly extraordinary.
Unfortunately,along with our advanced engineering comes
an inflated head full of hubris
that we are the most advanced civilizationto have ever existed.

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Are we sure about that?
Because we are going to explorefive inventions
that, given the resources availablewhen they were created,
might even make Elon Musk blush (Okay,maybe not Elon), and prove
at the very least that we are not the end
all, be all of intellectual capital.

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Let's start our technology tourwith something that I think everyone can
agree is pretty OGas far as architecture is concerned.
But you may not be awareof some of its more technical details.
Pyramids of Giza.
Imagine you're an alien archeologisthovering above Earth in your spaceship.

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You're scanning the Earth's surfacefor signs of advanced civilization,
and suddenly your instruments go haywire.
They've detected a massive structureof incredible precision
built with technology that shouldn't existfor thousands of years.
Well guess what?
That's pretty much what happened in 1968(minus the alien part).

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When NASA's Apollo missiontook the first satellite images of Earth,
they discovered something that left themscratching their heads.
The Great Pyramid of Gizawas reflecting radar signals
in a waythat no other structure on Earth did.
It was behaving lesslike an ancient monument
and more like a modern power plant.

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But let's back up a bit.
The Great Pyramid of Giza is the oldestand the largest of the three
Giza pyramids.
But there is a lot more to the stone giant
than just being the Papa bear of the Gizapyramids.
For starters, this bad boy is big.
Really big.
Like almost 500ft tall.

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That the 45 story buildingmade of solid stone.
But it's not just big, it's precise.
The base is level two within less than oneinch.
Now, mainstreamarcheology tells us the ancient Egyptians
built this thing about 4500 years ago
as a tomb for the Pharaoh Khufu.

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But no mummy has ever been found inside.
Not one.
Kind of a weird oversight for a tomb.
So if it's not a tomb, what is it?
Some researchers, like Graham Hancock,suggest the pyramids might be remnants
of a lost, advanced civilizationpredating the Egypt we know about.
They argue that the buildersmight have had construction methods

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we don't understand.
I mean, how else do you explain moving 2.3million blocks,
some weighing up to 80 tons,
and placing them with pinpoint precision?
That's like stacking 50 cars
on top of each other without a crane.

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And if that doesn't blow your mind,how about the fact that the Great Pyramid
is lined up with true north so accurately,it would make your GPS blush.
We're talking about a margin of errorof just three minutes.
That's 3/60 of one degree.

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But the pyramids aren'tjust archealogical marvels.
They're mathematical puzzles.
Randall Carlson, a researcherwith a background in architecture,
points out that the dimensionsof the Great Pyramid seem to encode
all sorts of mathematical constants,like the speed of light,
the precession of the equinoxes,even the exact dimensions of the Earth.

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Coincidence? Maybe.
Or maybe these ancient buildersknew a thing or two about the universe
that we're only now rediscovering.
Speaking of the universe,let's talk about the stars.
The pyramids alignwith certain celestial bodies
in ways that are just too preciseto be accidental.
So some theories suggestthey might have been

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some kindof ancient astronomical observatory.
Others go further, proposing thatthey were built as a star map to guide...
well, let's just say visitors from very,very far away.
Now, remember that weird radar reflectionI mentioned earlier?
Well, that'swhere things get really interesting.

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Some researchers argue that the pyramids
might have been morethan just static monuments.
They point to traces of chemicalsfound in the Queen's Chamber,
namely zinc and hydrochloric acid,
that could theoreticallybe used to conduct electricity.
This has led to some pretty out theretheories about the pyramids

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being some kind of ancient power plantsor energy generators.
Inside the Great Pyramid, there'sa chamber known as the King's Chamber.
It's built entirely of granite blocks,each weighing about 50 tons,
that are designed to vibrate at exactlythe same frequency as the Earth.

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What?
Did the ancient Egyptians know thingsabout resonance and energy
that we are only beginning to rediscover.
Of course, mainstream archeologistshave explanations for a lot of this stuff.
But even they have to admitthat there are still plenty of questions
that we can’t answer.
How did they cut and transportthese massive blocks with such precision?

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How did they achieve such perfectalignment without modern surveying tools?
And why does the engineering seem to havegotten worse over time instead of better?
The truth is,
the more we learn about the pyramids,the more questions we seem to have.
Were they tombs?
Observatories? Power plants?

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Alien landing pads?
The work of a lost advanced civilization.
We probably will never know for sure.
But one thing's for certain.
These massive monuments are a testamentto the ingenuity, skill,
and perhaps the advanced knowledgeof our ancient ancestors.
They stand as a challengeto our understanding of history

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and of what ancient humans were capable.
And who knows,maybe one day we'll crack the code
and finally figure out how they did it.
But until then, these stone giantswill continue to stand
as a pretty largereminder of ancient human achievement.

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It's 1901,
and a group of spongedivers are exploring a shipwreck off
the coast of a tiny Greek islandcalled Antikythera.
Among the usual haul of statuesand pottery,
they find something different.
A corroded lump of metal that doesn't
really look like much,but they haul it to the surface anyway.

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Little didthey know, they've just stumbled upon
what some call the world's first computer.
Meet the Antikythera Mechanism.
This unassuming hunk of metal
turned out to be an intricatemechanical device, dated to around 100
to 150 B.C., over 2000 years old.

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To put that in perspective,this thing was built
about the timeJulius Caesar was in diapers.
So what does this ancient gizmo do?
Well, it's essentially a highlysophisticated celestial calculator.
It could predict the positions of the sun,
moon and planets,forecast solar and lunar eclipses,

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and even keep track of the ancientOlympic Games.
This device containsat least 30 bronze gears,
in a complex arrangement that mimicsthe movements of celestial bodies.
The largest gear is about five inchesin diameter
and has 223 teeth.
Remember,this is 2000 years before the invention

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of precision toolsor even the mechanical clock.
The level of astronomicaland mathematical knowledge
required to create this device is mindboggling.
It's so advanced that nothing rivalingits complexity
shows up again in historyfor another thousand years.

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It's like finding a smartphone in KingArthur's court.
Now, I know what you're thinking.
This has to be just a one off,a fluke of genius.
However, the craftsmen of the Antikythera
Mechanism suggests it wasn't unique.
This wasn'tsome ancient astrological savant

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jerry rigging a bunch of gears together.
Those gears were cutby someone very practiced at their trade.
Which meansthere were probably more of them.
So then why haven't we found more?
Well,bronze was often melted down for re-use,
and most ancient shipwrecksremain unexplored.

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So who knows what crazy things might belying at the bottom of the Mediterranean.
If nothing else,the Antikythera Mechanism shows us that
the ancient Greekshad a deep understanding of astronomy
and mathematics that we're only nowbeginning to appreciate.
They weren't just philosophizingabout the cosmos.

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They were building machines to model it.
And it's not just theastronomical knowledge that's impressive.
The engineering required to buildsuch a device is staggering.
We're talking about precisely cutgears, complex differential
gearing systems, and a user interfacethat would make Apple's designers jealous.

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All of this, remember, in a worldwithout electricity,
without computers,and the only calculator is an abacus.
Some researchers have even suggestedthat the Antikythera Mechanism
might be based on designsby the great mathematician Archimedes.
If true, that would mean this levelof technological sophistication

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wasn't limited to one personor one small group, but was a part
of a broader scientific culturein the ancient Mediterranean.
The AAntikythera Mechanism isn'tjust a testament to ancient knowledge.
It's a windowinto how that knowledge was lost.
The device is a stark reminderthat progress isn't always linear.

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Somehow, the expertise needed to createsuch complex machines vanished
not to resurface for over a millennium.
The Antikythera Mechanismforces us to reconsider
what we think we know about ancient Greektechnology.
It's a reminderthat our ancestors were capable

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of incredible featsof engineering and mathematics.
So the next time someone tells youthat ancient people were primitive
or unsophisticated,just remember the Antikythera Mechanism.
It's proofthat our ancestors were creating wonders
that we still can'tfully explain thousands of years later.

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From ancient Greece, let's
take a leap into the realm of the divineand downright explosive.
Our next mysterious technologycomes straight
out of the Bible, and it's a real shocker.
Ladies and gentlemen,I give you the Ark of the Covenant.
According to the Book of Exodus,the Ark was a gold covered

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wooden chest containing the stonetablets of the Ten Commandments.
But this was no ordinary holy relic.
This thing packed a punchthat would make Thor's
hammer unpleasant.
look like a rubber mallet.
The Bible describes the ark as havingsome serious street cred.

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It could level mountains, part rivers,
and even lay waste to entire armies.
And it had a nasty habitof striking people dead
if they touched it without permission.
But let's back up a bit and look at whatwe actually know about the Ark.
According to biblical accounts,it was constructed
during the Israelitesexodus from Egypt around 1440 BC.

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It was about four feet long, 2.5ftwide, and 2.5ft
high, made up of acacia wood
and covered inside and out with pure gold.
On the top of the arkwere two golden cherubim,
or angels, with their wingsspread over the cover.
This cover, known as the Mercy Seat,

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was saidto be the earthly dwelling place of God.
Only the Levites, one of the 12 tribes ofIsrael, were allowed to carry the ark.
They were instructednever to touch the ark itself,
only the poles used to carry it.
The Arkled the Israelites through the desert,

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parted the Jordan River,and brought down the walls of Jericho.
It was eventually housedin Solomon's Temple.
And then things get murky.
The last definitive mentionof the Ark in the Bible is just before
the Babylonian conquest of Jerusalemin 586 BC.
After that, poof!

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It vanishes from historical records.
What happened to thisincredibly powerful artifact?
Where did it go?
The theories are as numerous as they arewild.
Some researchers have proposed thatthe Ark might have been a real device,
possiblya sophisticated electrical apparatus.

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The gold covered woodconstruction is reminiscent
of a Leyden jar,an early type of capacitor.
The cherubim on top?
They could have been electrodes.
And those detailed handling instructions?
Well, you'd only want to hold on
to wood around a high voltage deviceright?
Other theories get even wilder.

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Some suggest the Ark might have beena kind of ancient radio
capable of communicatingwith higher powers.
Others propose it could have beena holographic projector,
which would explain various accountsof divine appearances around it.
Some researchers, including the alwaysthought provoking Graham Hancock,

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suggest the Ark might have been morethan just a divine weapon.
It could have been a piece of advancedtechnology, a remnant of a lost
civilization, far more sophisticatedthan we've been led to believe.
Hancock, known for his work on ancientmysteries, draws some pretty interesting
parallels between the Ark and artifactsfrom other ancient cultures.

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He points out that the Egyptianshad their own power objects,
described in texts as devicescapable of harnessing cosmic energies.
One such object, known as the DJedpillar, was said
to be used in rituals involving levitationand energy manipulation.
Sound a little like the Ark?

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Hancock goes further,suggesting that advanced technologies
might have played a rolein the construction of ancient monuments
like the pyramids, meaningmaybe the Egyptians used levitation
of some kind to liftthose massive blocks into place.
That's a little bit of a game changer.

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It suggests that our ancestors justmight have had sophisticated technologies
that we can only guess at,which makes the Ark
not just a religious relic,but a tantalizing clue
to a totally forgottenchapter of human history.
Problem is, we have no physical evidenceof the Ark's existence.

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No archeological discoveries, no remnants.
Nada.
All we have are stories and legends.
Now, in all fairness, the Ark is discussed
in several ancient texts,not just the Bible.
So is it a myth or was it a real artifact?
Some piece of advancedtechnological engineering?

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And where is it now?
Well, some say it was hidden by theIsraelites before the Babylonians arrived.
Others claimit was taken to Egypt for safekeeping.
And some researchers believe the Ark mightbe hidden somewhere in the Middle East.
But the most persistent legendis that it ended up in Ethiopia,

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at the Church of Our LadyMary of Zion, in the city of Aksum,
where it is guarded by a single monk
referred to as the Guardian of the Ark,
who remains in the church for life
and is the only personallowed to see the Ark.
But then again, maybe it's stashed away

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in some secret government warehouseala Indiana Jones.
The truth is,we don't know if the Ark ever even existed
in the first place,let alone where it might be now.
But the legend of this powerful,mysterious object
continues to captivate people'simaginations.
Was the Ark of the covenanta weapon of mass destruction

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and devicefrom an advanced lost civilization?
Or simply a powerful symbolthat took on a life of its own?
And who knows, maybe somedaywe'll find evidence that either proves
or disproveswhether the biblical box ever existed.
But until then, the Ark of the Covenantstands as a tantalizing

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blend of history,mythology, and pure speculation.
Our next ancient technology is somethingthat would make
even the most hardcorepyromaniac do a double take.
I'm talking about Greek Fire,the secret weapon of the Byzantine Empire
that had their enemiesshaking in their boots.

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It's the seventh century AD,and you're a sailor
in an enemy fleetattacking Constantinople.
Suddenly, the Byzantine shipsstart spraying this mysterious liquid.
And before you can say what it ignites,
creating an infernothat spreads across the water surface.
That's right.

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This stuff burns on water.
Greek Firewas the medieval equivalent of napalm,
a game changer in naval warfare.
It stuck to ships, structures and people,
burning despite attempts to extinguish it.
Water? Useless.
Sand? Nope.
Some accountseven suggest that water made it worse.

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The Byzantines guarded the secretrecipe of Greek Fire with their lives.
It was considered a state secretof the highest order, with the formula
known only to the Imperial familyand a select few others.
They did a good job of keepingthat secret, because to this day
we still don't knowexactly how it was made.

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Now that hasn't stopped peoplefrom trying to figure it out.
Modern scientistshave made numerous attempts to recreate
Greek Firewith varying degrees of success.
Some people think it might have beena mixture of petroleum,
pitch, sulfurand other flammable materials.
Others propose more exotic ingredientslike quicklime or saltpeter.

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But none of these modern recreationsquite match
the descriptionswe have of the original Greek Fire.
It's like trying to createColonel Sanders’s
recipe with only ten of the 11 herbsand spices.
You might get close, but it ain't KFC.
The mystery deepenswhen you consider how the Byzantines

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deployed this fiery concoction.
Historical accountsdescribe a kind of flame thrower
that could projectthe liquid fire at enemy ships.
Some even suggestthey had a way to shoot it underwater,
creating a terrifying fountain of flameerupting from the sea.

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Greek historian Theophanes described itlike this,
As it was hurled from the siphons.
It came with a roaring soundand fearful flame,
and fell like a fiery snake.
Imaginebeing on the receiving end of that.
It's no wonder that Greek Firestruck terror

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into the hearts of Byzantine enemiesfor centuries.
According to Byzantinesources, Greek Fire was invented
by a Syrian engineernamed Callinicus of Heliopolis.
He supposedly fled to Constantinoplewhen the Arabs conquered Syria
in the seventh century, bringing with himthe fiery secret recipe.

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The timing couldn't have been betterfor the Byzantines.
They were under siegeby the Arab fleet and Greek
Fire turned the tide of the battle.
It saved Constantinople, and by extension,
much of Christian Europe from conquest.
And the Byzantinesused it effectively for centuries.

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It played a crucial rolein defending against two Arab
sieges of Constantinople in 674 to 678,
and again in 717 to 718.
It also saw actionagainst the Rus’ invasion of 941,
and a few other battles.

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But despite its effectiveness, Greek fireeventually faded from use.
By the time of the Fourth Crusade in 1204,
it had largely disappearedfrom Byzantine arsenals. Why?
Did they run out of a crucial ingredient?
Did the secret die with its keepers?
Or did changing military tacticsmake it obsolete?

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The loss of Greek Fire'sformula is a prime example
of how knowledge, once lost,can be incredibly difficult to recover.
It's a reminderthat our ancestors were capable
of creating technologies that, insome ways surpassed what we can do today.
Some researchers have even suggestedthat Greek Fire might have involved

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some form of ancient nanotechnology,or utilize principles of chemistry
that were only nowbeginning to understand.
Some people think that Greek firemight have had extraterrestrial origins,
and others propose that there wasa rediscovery of an even more ancient
technology, perhapsdating back to the time of Atlantis.

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The enduring mystery of Greek Firehas made it
a staple of historical fictionand fantasy.
From George R.R.
Martin's “ASong of Ice and Fire” series, better known
as Game of Thrones,where it's called “wildfire”,
Janda.

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to various video games and movies,the idea of an unquenchable,
water defying, flame continuesto captivate our imaginations.
So the next time someone tells youthat people in the past
were technologically primitive,
just remind them about GreekFire, a weapon so advanced, so terrifying

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that we still can't fully recreate ittoday,
over a thousand years later.
For our final stop on this tour of ancient
technological wonders, were jetting offto the sunbaked plains of southern Peru.
Brace yourselves,because what we're about to see makes

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crop circles look like doodlesin the margins of a notebook.
The Nazca Lines.
Imagine soaring over the Nazca desert
and spotting enormous designsetched into the earth.
Colossal geometric shapes,
animals and human figures,some stretching over 1200 feet long.
The kicker?

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These massive geoglyphs can only be fullyappreciated from the sky.
Amazingly enough,these designs were carved between 500
BC and 500 AD by the ancient Nazca
culture over 2000 years ago.
Long before the Wright brotherseven dreamed of flight,

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these folks were creating artworkmeant to be seen from the sky.
It's as if they were leaving a messagefor future airborne observers,
or perhaps something else entirely.
The precision of these lines is crazy.
The Nazca people managed to create ruler

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straight lines stretching up to 30 miles.
Imagine trying to draw a straight linethat long without G.P.S.
or satellite imagery.
And even after thousands of years of windand weather,
many designs remain clearly visible.
And with the help of AI, more

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designs are being uncovered every day.
So why did they do it?
Well, some researchers proposethey're an astronomical calendar
tracking celestial movements.
Others suggest they're maps to undergroundwater sources.
Pretty crucial in a bone dry desert.
And, yes, there are those who argue

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that they’re landing stripsfor extraterrestrial visitors.
One intriguing idea suggeststhe lines were ritual
pathways meant to be walkedin religious ceremonies.
Imagine walking along a miles
long hummingbird or monkey shape.
It's a captivating thought.
But it doesn't explain how they created

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such precise designswithout an aerial view.
Now, I, for one, have seen picturesof the animals since I was a kid.
But a lot of people, like me, do not know
that there are also a slew of linesthat kind of lead nowhere.
But those lines lead usto the trippiest theory so far.

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The Nazca lines aren'tjust random designs.
They're a part of the largest diagramever drawn.
A great circle map of the entire Earth.
According to this theory,each line on the Nazca
Plateau representsa great circle around our planet.
The geoglyphs aren't just pretty pictures,they're markers, allowing us

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to deduce the locations on Earthwhere these great circles radiate from.
It's like an ancient desertcarved GPS system.
And there are a lot of these circles,some of them intersecting with
some of the most importantarcheological sites,
like the pyramids of Giza, Machu Picchu,

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Easter Island, and the vast
temple complexes of AngkorWat in Cambodia,
and Teotihuacan in Mexico,just for starters.
If this global map theory holds water.
it suggests the Nazca people possessedknowledge of global geography
that should have been impossiblefor their time.

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We're talking about an understanding thatencompasses not just the Earth's shape,
but the precise locations of landmarks
on the other side of the planet.
Of course, the mainstream archeologistshave their own more
grounded explanations for the Nazca lines.
But even the most skeptical scientistshave to admit, the scale

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and precision of these designsare nothing short of extraordinary.
As we wrap up our whirlwindtour of ancient technologies,
the Nazca Lines serve as a fitting finale.
They remind us that some of history'sgreatest mysteries are etched
not in dustytomes or hidden in secret vaults,

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but carved into thevery earth beneath our feet.
Willis George Emerson
was what those in the late 19th centurywould call a “jack of all trades”.
He was a real estate developer,a lawyer, a newspaperman,

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a promoter, a politician,and eventually an author.
Earlier yearsthat had previously been spent in Chicago,
Colorado, Idaho, Kansas, just to namea few, turned into latter years
that would see Willis moved to Californiato relax in his retirement
and take up writing.

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And on one fateful afternoon walk,
Willis would meet one Olaf Jansen,the man that Willis would come to know
as a simple yet extraordinarily
well educated Norwegian fisherman.
A man Willis would come to regardas a friend, visiting the elderly Olaf
in his simple bungalow home quite often.

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Willis was quite entertained by Olaf'sfantastical tales
of his adventures on the sea,but he knew that Olaf
was not telling him the whole story,only handing out bite sized chunks
that inevitably leftWillis eager for more.
And while Willis didn't necessarilybelieve all of Olaf’s stories,

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he certainly was entertainedand enthralled by Olaf's conviction
that not only are the stories true,
but that one day he would tellWillis the whole story.
Then one night, about 2 a.m., Willis iswoken up by a knocking at his front door.
It's a messengerwith a note from Olaf simply saying,

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Am ill unto death.
Come.
So Willis rushes over to Olaf's house,finding him lying on the couch.
Indeed, at death's door.
Olaf tells him, “Iknow I'm not going to see the sun come up,
so you have to listen to me.”I have to tell you the whole story.

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And with that, Willis listens to Olaf,who with newfound strength,
given the importanceof getting his story out
in full, proceedsto tell Willis the following story.
Olaf is the son of Norwegian parents
who is actually born in Russia,while his parents are on a fishing trip.

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He startshelping his dad on fishing trips,
starting when he's only seven years old.
He's a pretty smart kid,so he's busy in a private school
from 9 to 14 years old, but then goes backto helping his dad fish after that.
His dad, Jens, is exactly what you would
probably picture in your headwhen you think of a Norwegian fisherman.

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A big stout guy, 6’3” and over 200 pounds.
As rugged and strong willed as they come.
So for a number of years this was life.
Father and son fishing together.
April 3rd, 1829, when Olaf is 19,
they set out on yet another expedition.

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Jens is pretty excited about this one.
The year before,he had found some big ivory tusks
on the western shores of Franz Josef Land
that had sold for some pretty good moneyat the Stockholm market.
So he was hoping that they could swingby that way again on this trip.
So the two set out on their little fishingsloop heading south from Stockholm,

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rounding around Denmarkand north up the coast of Norway.
The winds are pretty favorable.
And before you know it,after a few stops here and there,
they are againon the shores of Franz Joseph Land.
Now, Jens, being the typical Norseman,
had Thor and Odin as his godsand never missed an opportunity

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to tell Olaf that they came from farbeyond the North Wind,
where there is land more beautifulthan any that mortal man has ever known.
And as the two look north to the open seawith a warm gulf breeze
at their backs,Jens relays the story once again.
Olaf, inspired by his father'sdedication and passion for the legends,

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no doubt helped the longby the invincibility of youth, says,
“Let's go find it.” And just like that,their fishing expedition
turns into an exploration adventure.
They sail north for three dayswhen they come across
this little island and decideto stop and explore for a while.
They notice that there's not a single treeon the island, but the north shoreline

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is covered with driftwood, some piecesso big that they're more like drift trees.
They're like 40ft long and two feetin diameter.
Wonder where those came from?
They get back in the boatand keep going north.
And they notice that the air is way warmer
than they thought it would be,considering how far north they are.

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It's warmer than it wasbefore they left the coast of Norway.
But not every moment is sunshineand roses.
They get caught in a blizzardwith gale force winds and huge waves.
The little boat is tossed aroundso violently
that both of themhave to tie themselves to the boat,
and pray that the boat doesn't get crushedby floating chunks of ice.

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But Jens is not worried.
He tells Olaf over the crashing wavesand wind, “Be courageous, my son.
Odin is the god of the watersand companion
of the brave, and he is with us.
Fear not.” By the time the storm is over,
they have lost two thirds of their foodand all of their fresh water.

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They have two barrels left,but they're empty.
That is a problem.
But Jens just tells Olaf, “Don't worry.
Odin's got this.” Olaf's
not so sure about that, goes down below
and brings up a bowl so he can scoop upsome water and wash his face.
When he splashes his face with the water,it's fresh water.

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Olaf then start drinking the water.
When Jens says, “Are you nuts?
We're in the middle of the ocean.” Butthen he tastes it too, and confirms it.
They are surrounded with fresh water.
Not wasting a second.
They immediately fill their two emptywater barrels with water.
Olaf has no ideahow they can be floating in fresh water,

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but Jens just tells him, “I told youOdin's got our back.” About the same time,
they notice their compassacting funny, moving all over the place.
But it was steady enough for them to knowthat they're still heading
in a relatively northern direction.
They keep moving like thisfor a couple of weeks, with not much going

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on, just continually moving north,
when Jens calls out, “Hey, Olaf!”He points to a spot in the sky
ahead of them where Olaf can seethis dull red version of the sun.
It's not the real sun.
That's firmly overhead.
Remember, this is the North in the summer.
So the sun doesn't setfor months at a time.

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And even though it's aroundAugust already, by their best guess,
the sun is above their headswhere it has been the entire trip.
Jens tells him, “I've heard about this.
It's called a mock sun.
It's like a reflection or a mirage.
I'll be gone again pretty soon.”But it wasn't.
As the days go on,they can see that mock sun in the sky

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at least 12 hours of every 24 hour period.
And the more they look at it, they decide.
It certainly isn't a mirage.
It isn't any kind of reflectionof the sun.
It's a real thing.
Must be some kind of planet or something.
After a few more days of exhilaratingblank ocean views,

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Olaf is taken a nap (Imagine that),when his father wakes him up.
Land!
Olaf jumps up to see for himself.
Sure enough, there it is.
Sandy beach that goes onas far as the eye can see.
Backed up by trees and vegetation.
Olaf and Jens just stand there,gobsmacked, Olaf looks at his father

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and is moved by thelook on his father's face,
a mixture of awe and gratitude.
And Olaf knows his father is givingthanks to Odin and Thor.
And they follow the coastfor another three days, compass
still pointing north,before they hit the mouth of a huge river.
They turn their boat in that directionand sail for another ten full days,

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past sandy beachesand endless forests of huge trees.
And then they
figure out that the water has turnedfresh.
None too soon as they’re almost out.
So they finally drop anchor,fill their water
barrels, and wade onto the beach,finding some nut trees.
The fruit of which tastes amazing after,

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near as they can figure, five months
of the same boring food day after day.
They hadn't been there very longwhen they hear what sounds like a huge
choir getting louder and louder.
Then into view comes the largest shipthey have ever seen, sailing
right for them.

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And as the ship gets close to their boat,it stops and lowers a small boat
loaded with six men, all of whom
are the tallest men Olaf has ever seen.
The six men who speak a languageneither Jens nor Olaf understand,
laughing and talking amongst themselves,look over their boat

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with curiosity,especially interested in their compass.
And then, through various hand gestures,seem to invite the two on to their ship.
Jens looks it all up and says, “Well,what do you think?
They seem nice enough.
The worst they can do is kill us.”And with that,
the two accept the giants' invitation.

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In less than a half an hour,both men and their ship are all aboard
this mammoth ship, which they would laterlearn is called the Naz,
or in their language, the Pleasure Cruise.
Jens and Olaf are amazed at the hundredsof people aboard this cruise ship.

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The men are all about 12ft tall,
with the captainstanding at about 13ft tall.
Jens, at 6’3”,
barely hitsthe waistlines of these people,
and the women are all about 10 to 11fttall.
And all of them seem to have thiswonderful healthful glow.

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They are welcomed at the Giant'stable for their feast,
although the giants are amused that theyhave to come up with something different
for chairs for their guests because theythey're so small in comparison.
And never once do Jens and Olaffear for their safety.
Jens sits back at the table,looking particularly satisfied, and says,

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“This is the land beyond the north wind.
Our fathers would be proud.”The boat is quickly turned around
in the river and starts heading backin the direction they had come from.
Interestingly enough,even though they're moving faster than any
form of transportation Olaf has ever seen,
neither man can hear any motors running.

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It's a totally quiet ride.
The captain appointsa man named Jules Galdea and his wife
to be in charge of Jens and Olaf,to teach them everything they can.
And the Jansen’s are eager to learn.
The ship is illuminated by a light sourcethat the Jansen’s don't quite understand,

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but what Olaf would, later in life,come to assume was electricity.
But at that time, in 1829, electricity
is not yet a thing for the outer world.
They sail for another two full daysbefore reaching their destination,
noticing along the way thatwhat they thought at first was a mirage,

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then another planet - that ruddy
red globe - is now hanging in the skyand illuminating
the strange land in full view,as their view of the sun
continually diminishesuntil it can't be seen at all.
When they finally reach the porttown of Jehu, they are greeted with huge,

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beautiful housesthat all look the same, yet different.
And farmland and vineyardsas far as the eyes can see.
And gold!.
Doesn't take them long to figure outthat gold is not too rare there,
because it's everywhere - inlaid on doors,
covering the domes of city buildings,as a veneer on tables,

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and especially on the extraornate temples to music.
The vegetation is crazy,super lush everywhere.
One bunch of grapes is 4 to 5ft long,with each grape
as big as an orange and applesthe size of a man's head.

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And everything else is just as huge.
The forest trees are so bigthat the redwoods
of Californiawould be mere underbrush in comparison.
They learn that one of the main,if not the main city is called Eden.
It's the place from wherethe government of the people operates.

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But they stay in Jehu for a full yearlearning the language (which they conclude
is something pretty close to Sanskrit)and the customs of the land
from their very patient teachers,the Galdea’s, Jules and his wife.
One day, they're visited by an envoyfrom the ruler in Eden
and are grilled for two days.

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How did they get there?
What gods do they worship?
What is life like on the outside?
You name it.
And again, their compassseems to be of particular interest,
which is still pointing north.
Although by nowbetween the behavior of the compass
and the way the sun disappearedand was replaced by the glowing red orb

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in the sky, they have pretty muchcome to the conclusion
that they are indeed inside the earth.
By Jen's calculationsbased on how long they were sailing,
he estimatesthat the thickness of the earth, between
the outer layerand the inner layer, is about 300 miles.
So in essence, innerearth is only 600 miles

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smaller in diameter than outer Earth.
That's a pretty big inner earth.
Just to put things in perspective,the outer diameter of Earth is
roughly 7925 miles,
or 12,750km from one side
to the other through the center,depending on where you are measuring.

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If the crust is 300 miles thick,that makes the diameter of inner earth
roughly, let's call it 7300 miles,
or 11,750km from one side to the other.
That's a pretty big place.
And after spending over a yearwatching and learning more from the people

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about the red orb in the sky, Olafand Jens can see that it glows
more red in the morningand in the evening.
During most of the day,it seems to be shrouded by this white,
almost luminescent cloud,
and that the base of the orb is black
with lots of little holesin whatever this black is.

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However, by whateveract of gravity or vacuum
that exists on the inside,the orb stays stationary.
It's the spinning of the earththat moves them around the orb.
The net effect?
For the people of the inner Earthit looks like the sun rises
every morning in the east and setsevery night in the west, just like ours.

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And when they are at the pointduring the night where they are
passing under the dark basewith the holes in it,
they can look up and see points of light,
just like our stars,only a little bit bigger.
And the Jansen’s also learn that thepeople considered the dark part of the orb
as the seat of their God, their Jehovah,the Smoky God, as they call it,

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constantly looking down on and outfor the people on the land.
Once the two outsiders have been properlyvetted, they are taken to Eden by way
of some kind of monorail trainthat's super fast and totally silent.
And just a little note.
Olaf didn't use the word train.

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He called it a conveyance
because at the time, it'sa totally foreign concept for him.
Even though moving heavy things on
rails had been a regular practiceby 1829, the real trains
as we know them today, were justgetting started in the U.S.
And these inner Earth trains werenot the trains that we know today either.

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Like I said before,it was a monorail system where the car is
kept level and balanced by some kind offlywheel on the roof of every car, that,
to the best of the Jansens understanding,worked to kind of almost counteract
the effect of atmospheric pressure,creating
almost like a vacuum around the car,keeping it upright.

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They finally get to Eden.
This place is beautiful.
It's kind of like a plateau highabove the land around it.
It's actually the highest pointof the inner lands,
and this plateau is covered in trees
and fruit and flowers, all in full bloom.

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It's gorgeous.
In the plateau is also the spotwhere a huge freshwater spring flows,
feeding four rivers, the Euphrates,
the Pison, the Gihon,and the Hiddekel (the Hiddekel is the one
the Jansens sailed in on) that flow
out into the landand divide it into four sections.

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Eventually,they're led into a great hall, covered
in, you guessed it, lots of gold.
And sitting therewaiting for them is their little ship,
just as it waswhen it was taken out of the water
and transported by the big shipthat found them.
They are greeted by the Great High Priest,who stands

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roughly 14 to 15ft tall,
who talks with them for like two hours,
asking a ton of questions that his envoys
had evidently forgottento ask, fascinated by the answers
from these two foreign visitorsto his land.
At the end, the Great High Priestasks them what they would like to do now.

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Do you want to stay here with usor go back home?
Jens tells them
they would like to stay for a whileand explore the rest of this inner land,
but then they would eventually like to gohome.
Mom's waiting for us.
The great ruler says no problemwith exploring here.
Jules Galdea will escort you anywhereyou want to go.

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But when you're done, I gotta tell you,you might not make it back.
It's a pretty dangerous trip.
But when the time comes.
If you still want to give it a try,we will put your boat back at the mouth
of the Hiddekel where you startedand wish you Jehovah speed.
So the Jansen boys spend the next year

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touring around the different countriesof this inner world.
They learn more about the people -that they usually live
to, 600 or even 800 years old.
They don't even start schooluntil they're 20.
They go to school for 30 years, of which
a minimum of ten is spent learning music,with choirs of beautiful

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singing voicesthat can be as big as 25,000 people.
Their exploration outside of the citiesis just as astonishing,
walking through forest of trees1000ft tall, birds
with 30ft wingspans and eggstwo feet tall.

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Interesting note about the birds.
Not only do they see plenty of speciesthat seem to fit the “larger
than life” motif of this whole place,but they see plenty of smaller birds.
Ones which are pretty much the same sizeyou would see in the trees
in forest of either the U.S. or Europe.
In about the sametime, scientists have noticed

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that a number of bird specieshave gone missing.
And I say missingbecause they have disappeared faster
than they would if they were going througha normal extinction process.
So the question is, is it possiblethat some of these bird populations
have decided to make the landwithin their new home?

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But back to the crazy wildlife.
Jules bringsJens and Olaf to a particular beach
that's full of thousands of tortoisesthat are 30ft
long, 20ft wide, and 7 or 8ft tall.
They see elephants that are 75fttall and 100ft long.

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There's just something about this place
that has the perfect conditionsfor abundant life.
All life.
The plants, the animals and the people.
Olaf's not sure, but he thinksit has something to do with the air.
There's an energy, almost an electricityto it, that is almost palpable.

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Never, for the rest of his long life,
would he ever feel as good as he did
the two years he and his fatherspent in the inner world.
After a full yearof exploring this inner land,
the Jansen boys decideit's time to go back home.
So they make their way back to Jehuand spend a full month

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fixing up their fishing boat, makingsure it can withstand when is most likely
going to be a challenging runthrough fields of icebergs.
The Galdea’s,and everyone else, are sad to see them go,
but they offer them a parting giftof as many bags
of gold nuggetsas they dared to store on the boat.

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The men and their boat are loadedback onto the Naz,
the same ship that brought themin, and taken back to the mouth
of the Hiddekel River, where they areplaced back in the water and launched.
The giants seeing them offare not only sad to see them go,
but are more than a little concernedfor their safety.
Jens promises them that he will returnin a year or two to pay them a visit.

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With that, they say their goodbyesand hoist their sails
as the Naz turns aroundand heads back to Jehu.
Except they didn't move.
They try for three days,but are bucking winds the whole time.
Jens finally figures out thatsince they've been there almost two
and a half years, their homeland is nowin the throes of winter,

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which means total darkand unfavorable winds.
Not a good dealfor trying to navigate around icebergs.
So, Jens has a suggestion.
Let's go the other way and sail back downthrough the inner world and come out
the southern end, which is summer rightnow, and sail home from there.

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So that's what they do.
They have a good wind and a swift current.
And get to the southern opening in only.
Only 40 dayswhere they drop anchor, resupply
and rest up forwhat is most likely going to be
a harrowing rideback to the outer surface.

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Oh, and they also find some nine foottall penguins.
Once they finally set their sailsfor the outer
surface,the first few days are pretty easy.
The warm wind from the insidepushes them onward with mild temperatures.
And the handoffbetween the internal red sun
to the external yellowsun happens exactly as predicted.

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But once they get a ways awayfrom the influence of those internal
winds, the air starts getting colder
and the icebergs are not far behind.
They continue cautiouslyuntil they find themselves stuck between
two behemoth office buildings,
sized chunks of icethat are dueling it out,

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crashing into one another,sending chunks of ice flying.
Olaf ans Jens are safe for the moment.
They saw the danger with enough timeto drop their sails,
but as they just bob in the water,
all they can do is watch and pray
that none of those flying icechunks come their way.

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After a few hours,it looks like the battle is over
as the icebergsstart to slowly drift apart,
creating a small channelwhere they can scoot through.
It's a risk though.
What if the bergs startcoming back together?
But they've gotten this far, right?
They hoist the sails and shoot on throughthe narrow passage without a scratch.

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They spend the next 45 dayswith a good wind in their sails,
kind of hunting and pecking their waythrough the fields of icebergs,
always watching for the open channelsto sail through.
When Jenn says, “You know what, Olaf?
I think we're going to make it.”
They can see thatthere are just a few more icebergs

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in their way and open ocean beyond that.
They steal a quick momentto pat themselves on their backs
for a jobwell done. They still have water.
They still have food.They still have gold.
And the tripNorthward to home will be a piece of cake.
When they hear the explosion.

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At least that's what it sounded like.
But in reality,the mammoth iceberg that they're lazily
sailing past has just split into pieces.
And if you've ever seen an icebergcalving,
you know that it's bestto be far, far away.
Because if the moving ice doesn't get you,the massive

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displacement of water just might.
But Olaf and Jens are not far away.
They're right next to it.
As the outside piece movesand starts to roll on its side.
The part that had been under the waterrises up under their boat
and sends itflying onto the new top of the berg.

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That actually sounds pretty lucky to me,
except that the berg is not finished.
Drop an ice cube in a glass of water,and you'll notice
that the ice submerges for a momentbefore finding its floating equilibrium.
Icebergs do the same thing,but at a slightly slower pace.
Olaf is thrown out of the boatand onto the ice,

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but Jens is stuck in the riggingof the boat.
Olaf knows the iceberg is going to go down
before it's done, and can do nothingbut watch his father struggling
to free himself in hopes that whenthe inevitable rush of water comes sucking
anything on top down with it,

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that the boat will be able to right itself
and save everything inside,including his father.
The iceberg does exactly what Olaf thoughtit would and starts
to sink under the surface as icy water
comes rushing at him from all sides.
And a moment later, everything goes dark.

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Olaf wakes up a while later,almost completely frozen, inside and out,
laying on the level openexpanse of the new top of the floating
chunk of ice, about 50ftabove the surface of the water.
But no sign of the boat.
Olaf gets up and startscircling the edge of the floating plateau,

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carefully looking over the edgedown to the water, praying that a miracle
has somehow happened and that his fatherwould be safely floating below.
Nope.
But Olaf keeps looking.
He slowly walks around,looking over the edge,
looking for the boat, for hours and hours.

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He can't stop.
If he stops, then he has to admit thetruth to himself, that his father is dead
and he is nowstranded on the top of an iceberg
with no food,or way of generating any heat.
When he literally can't move any more,he stops,
and the silence, solitude and despair

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all rush in, just like the water had,
threatening to drown him once again.
When the deafening quiet is broken
by the crack of a signal gun firing.
It's a whaling shipnot even a half a mile away.
Apparently, Olaf'sincessant circling around
the top of the iceberghad caught their attention.

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Just like that,by the divine intervention of Odin
and Thor, Olaf is saved.
However, the welcoming partyisn't welcoming for very long.
As soon as Olaf is aboard,naturally, the captain of the Scottish
whaling ship called the Arlington,Angus MacPherson, asks him

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how in the hell he ended up floating aloneon the top of an iceberg.
Olaf being only about 21 or 22 nowand still pretty naive, assumes
they would all be interestedin his extraordinary tales.
So he spills the beanson his whole adventure, beginning to end.
Beforethe last words are even out of his mouth,

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the captain orders him locked up in ironsas a complete loon.
But over the course of a few days,Olaf is able to convince
the captain that those were justthe statements of a madman.
He's better now,and he can help with the ship.
So captain MacPhersonlets Olaf loose, and Olaf
becomes a member of the whaling crew

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until they finally arriveback home in Scotland.
By the time Olafmakes it back to Stockholm,
he's been gone for four yearsand eight months.
He finds out his motherhad just passed away the year before,
but that everything he was due to inherithad been placed in trust
to his extended family,who rightfully turns it over to him.

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But Olaf can't forget the amazing thingshe has seen
and the insane adventure he was on.
He wants to go back.
So he finally gathersthe courage to talk to his uncle,
Gustaf Osterlind, who's pretty well to do.
He tells Uncle Gustaf the whole story,hoping he can convince him

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to finance another expeditionback to the lands beyond the North Wind.
Gustaf tells Olaf, “Wow.
That's quite a story.
But you have my attention. Tell you what.
I'll get a meeting togetherwith some of the town's higher ups.
You can tell them what you told me.
Maybe we can get their support to.”Olaf is like, “Right on.”

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And he goes in front of the townofficials and tells his story,
at the end of which Gustafsays, “I told you he was nuts.”
Papers are signedand Olaf is taken away to an insane
asylum, where he languishes for 28 years,
professing his sanity the entire time.

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On the 17th of October,1862, Olaf is finally released.
But to what?
His family's all dead,and his friends are strangers.
He's now over 50 years old.
And anybody who knows anything about him,only knows him as a lunatic.
He has nothing.

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So leaning onthe only thing he's ever known
how to do,he gets a job on a fishing boat.
And they actually does pretty wellfor himself.
So much so that after only five years,he saves enough money to buy his own
fishing boat and spendsthe next 22 years fishing his own boat
and in his spare time, reading anythinghe can get his hands on.

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Since he has no wife and kidsand nothing else
to really spend any of his moneyon, by 1889,
he figures out he has enough moneyto live on for the rest of his life.
So he sells his boat and moves to America.
After spending a few years in Chicago,Olaf moves to sunny California

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and buys himself a nice bungalow housein a nice, quiet neighborhood.
Which brings us back to where we startedthis whole story.
The meeting of Olaf and Willis Emerson.
Olaf, on his deathbed, tellsWillis the whole story
from beginning to end, weaving togetherall of the incomplete tidbits

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that he'd already shared,and then supplies Willis
with maps and information that back upwhat he's saying.
Once Olaf finishes unloadingall of that information, that he is kept
locked away, onto Willis - the burdenthat he feels to get the truth out,
which he couldn't do beforebecause he was afraid of

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being locked up againonce that burden is lifted, Olaf slips
into eternal rest with his forefathers,
on the morning of January 3rd, 1908.
But that's not quite the end.
Olaf makes Willis promiseto share his story with the world,

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which Willis does by documenting Olaf'sentire story in a book
called The Smoky God,which he publishes in that
same year, 1908.
The book is now in the public domain,so you can just go
search it up right on Google,download it and read it for yourself.
It’s a pretty quick read.

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So is it real?
Well, on one hand,while Willis states in the books foreword
that this is a true story, it wouldn'tbe the first time that a fiction author
has used that tool to help their readerssuspend their disbelief for a while.
And all of Willis'sother books were fiction.
On the other hand,this book is full of footnotes, where

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Willis passes along the corroboratingevidence that backs up his account.
Is it smoking gun evidence?
Of course not.
But it certainly makes Olaf's claimsmore compelling for sure.
And there are some ratherintriguing passages that talk about
not only the monorail systemthat he traveled on,

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but also something akin to a modern daycell phone, neither of which
would have been anywhere closeto real life
in 1830s Scandinavia or the U.S..
Now, the monorail could probablybe explained
by saying that the railroad systemwas well established by the beginning
of the 20th century,when Willis wrote the book.

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So maybe he just took that ideaand ran with it.
Same goes for the cell phone,which Olaf describes as,
“By some device which I cannot explain,
they hold communion with oneanother between the most distant parts
of their country, on air currents.” CouldWillis have just been a great science

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fiction writer, taking what is new to themand taking it to the next level.
Sure.
Tesla even filed a patent applicationin 1903 for a wireless phone.
But I find it hard to believethat those two instances
are the only glimpsesinto his science fiction genius,
because he certainly didn't ever riseto fame as a science fiction author.

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Do we have anything going for usin favor of this being true?
We do, Thanks to a YouTubechannel called WebFlix,
we know that while there is no recordof Olaf entering the US through
Ellis Island,there is a record of him living in Chicago
and a record of him being in California

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at the same time that Willis describes.
And not only that, but there is proofthat the captain of the Scottish
whaling ship, Angus McPherson,also existed, with an entry in the 1841
Scottish censusshowing him to be 45 at the time.
Born in 1796, in Inverness, Scotland,

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with his occupationlisted as a merchant seaman.
Also.
And I get that this is circumstantial,but the book is littered
with footnotes for supporting informationthat were provided by Olaf.
Can't say that I've ever read a sciencefiction novel with real world footnotes.
So I ask the question again.

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Is it real? Who knows?
Let us know what you thinkin the comments.
But I can tell you this.
The waythe scientific community is run today
and with the government restrictionson polar travel, no real expeditions
with real scientistswill be going out to find an answer
any time soon,if they want to keep their careers.

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My personal hope is that with the increaseof knowledge and technology that we see
every day, We the People,
will be able to find out for ourselves.
Mount Shasta,
located in Northern California,about an hour south of Oregon,

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is 14,179 feet above sea level,
within the 2.2 million acre,Shasta Trinity National Forest.
It is the second highest peak and thesouthernmost volcano in the Cascade Range.
And it appears as though no one has a clueas to when it last erupted.

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The United StatesGeological Survey says 3,200 years ago,
the Global Volcanism Program says870 years ago, while sailors of the French
La Pérouse expeditionsay they saw go off just 200 years ago.
But regardless of its past, in 2018,the USGS updated its list

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of the most hazardous volcanoesin the country.
And Mount Shasta ranked fifth
out of the list's18 “very high threat” volcanoes.
I don't really like those odds.
Now, in order to put the whole of MountShasta craziness into context,
I first need to start with the tale of twofabled cities, about a million years

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ago, Atlantis in the Atlantic Oceanand Lemuria or Mu in the Pacific.
And according to legend,between these two,
they pretty much ownedthe rest of the world.
They are both very technologicallyadvanced, more advanced than we are.
And even though Atlantishad the advantage over Lemuria,

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Atlanteans were a benevolent societythat lived in peace
with the Europeans for millennia.
However, about 25,000 years ago,the Atlanteans got a little too big
for their britches and decided worlddomination sounded like a good idea.
Lemurians said, “I don't think so,”and the two begin a war, to end all wars.

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By the time they're done,their advanced weaponry has done
so much damage to the surface of the earththat the tectonic plates shift
causing their magnetic poles to shiftso suddenly that
a massive global flood wiped outboth civilizations.
Millions of people die on both sides.

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A few surviving Atlanteansevacuate to Agartha,
an underground cityinside the Hollow Earth.
Upcoming episode anyone?
The last of the Lemurians fled to Mt.
Shasta and establisheda city called Telos, which legend claims
now houses 1.5 million
highly evolved spiritual beings.

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Now, the Native American tribesin the area will tell you that
Shasta was createdby the Old Man of the Sky, who somewhere
between seven and 10,000 years ago wantedto come down to earth from the heavens.
But he didn't have a way to climb down.
So he made a hole in the skyand shoved dirt and ice through the hole
into a pile until it was tall enoughfor him to climb down onto the earth.

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Then he creates life on Earth,but goes a little nuts about it,
and makes too many grizzly bears,which scare the crap out of him,
so he hollows out the mountainto create a teepee to stay in.
They say you could still see the smoke
rising from the topuntil the white man came.

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Native American tribes are documentedas living around that area, going back
7 to 10000 years. But it's likely
the Lemurians are homelessand looking for new digs before that.
So maybe,and I'm just throwing this out here...
Maybe the Lemurians builtthe mountain themselves
as a new gated communitycondo complex for themselves.

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I mean, if they had the technologyto destroy the known world,
maybe they had the technologyto build a mountain.
And one of the reasons I say this isbecause of the location of the mountain.
Most mountains are part of a range.
I mean, Shatsa’s part of a range,
the Cascade Range,but it's still just sitting there

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in the middle of relatively flat country,like somebody just plopped it there.
I mean, if the Lemurians didn't make it,then the Old Man of the Sky sure did.
Fast forward to the summer of 1883.
Frederick S.
Oliver, a teenager at the time, is helpinghis family stake out their mining claim.

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And as he's writing down notesand coordinates of the claims
location,his hand starts shaking and writing notes
and his notebook against Frederick's will.
He understandably starts to panicand runs home
with his hand,trying to write the whole time.
Frederick's mother doesn't panic.

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She just gives him a piece of paperto write on.
By the time this episode is over,shortly thereafter,
Frederickand his mother are shocked to realize that
what he has written down is the beginningof some weird dissertation.
Over the next few years, Frederickwould occasionally have his hand
commandeered by this outside forcenamed Phylos, the Thibetan,

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who would dictate a few more pages hereand there.
Phylos is a spirit entitywho has lived a previous life
as an Atlantean who obviously finds itpretty important to get a hold of somebody
who can write down informationabout the Atlantean civilization.
Although I would think that if they'd been
that technologically advanced,they would have thought to invent paper.

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Or maybe Phylos is just really bored.
Anyway, this goes on until 1895,
when Phylos has apparently saidall he needs to say.
Frederick Oliver diesfour years later at the age of 33.
We will come back to Frederickin a moment.
skip ahead a couple of years to 1904,

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when a British prospector, J.C.
Brown, comes to Mount Shastaon behalf of the Lord
Cowdrey mining company to look for gold.
One day, while exploring the mountain,Brown stumbles across a rockfall.
It just looks kind of odd, likemaybe there's something behind it.
So he starts to clear it,and it doesn't take long

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before he realizes that behindthat pile of rocks
is a tunnelleading down into the darkness.
And seeing as though he's thereto look for gold,
a tunnel into the mountain is awesome.
So he starts down the tunnel.
Now, the fact that there's a tunnelthere, it's not that unusual.
There are lava tubes all over the mountainthat go on for miles.

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The longest being Pluto's Cave,
which is hikeable for over a milebefore you get to the unsafe part.
Who knows how long it really is.
So J.C.
starts hiking for miles and milesinto the darkness.
By his estimate,he hikes 11 miles before reaching the end.

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And what's at the endseems way more valuable than gold.
He finds a network of rooms and chambers,almost like an abandoned ancient city.
He finds ornate statuesthat seem to glow in the dark,
crystals, tablets,weapons and shields made of gold
and items that to himseem like machines of some kind.

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But the most shocking find iswhat looks to be a burial chamber
that holds at least 27 mummies, ranging
from 6 to 10 feet tall
in ornately decorated robes.
Now, obviously,he's very excited about this find.
It is an archeological Disneyland.

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But not being an archeologist, he'snot quite sure what to do.
So he covers the tunnel entranceand pretends
he didn't find anythinguntil he can figure out his next move.
One year later, so 1905,
Frederick Oliver's mom publishesthe book of writings
her son had channeled over those few yearscalled “A Dweller on Two Planets”,

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which turns out to be a whole accounting
of the Atlantean civilizationand technology.
He even describessome pretty modern concepts
like quantum mechanics, anti-gravity,
zero point energy and mass transit.
And the mass transit vehicle of choice?

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The cigar shaped airship.
Now, apparently the Lemurians are justa little smarter than the Atlanteans
because they don't need to channel anyoneto get their history recorded.
They manage to write down their historyand leave it in the capable
hands of the Hindus in India,who then share the information

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with a guy named James Churchward,who then publishes a book in 1926
detailing the history of Lemuria,which he renames Mu.
So back to our guy, J.C. Brown.
While he's toiling away at regular life,
he's still trying to figure outexactly what it is he found in that cave.

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He becomes obsessed with Churchward’sbook about the lost continent of Mu,
and most certainlywould have heard of the Lemurians,
as well as FrederickOliver's book on Atlantis.
And after all of his research,he decides that the cave must belong
to the Lemurian civilizationthat is residing in the mountain.

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That's it!
Time to go back.
So after 30 years, J.C.
heads back to the Mt.
Shasta area,and he is so steeped in all of the legend
and the lore of the Lemurians
that he actually startsgiving daily lectures on the topic.
Through these lectures,he manages to put together a search

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team of 80 people, including
researchers, scientists and explorers,
to go back to the mountain with himto find the tunnel.
The expedition is scheduledfor June 19th, 1934.
It's a really big deal.
The newspapers write about itand everybody in town is excited.

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The whole team of 80 adventurers
assembled, ready to find this lost city.
But J.C.
is nowhere to be found.
In fact, no one sees hidenor hair of him ever again.
So what happened to him?
Was he taken out by people who didn'twant this information getting out?

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Maybe it was the government.
The government? Keep secrets?
Or did he earn himself a one way ticket
into the city of Telosby the Lemurians themselves?
Or maybe he was just a con man.
Maybe.
But he never tooka single dime of anyone's money.
Not a very good con man.

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His strange disappearanceobviously leads people to question
the authenticity of Brown's entire storyof the subterranean city of riches
with giant mummiesthat he supposedly found.
But that didn't stop people from looking.
Numerous modern explorershave claimed to have found Brown's tunnel,

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mummies and all, although its location
and even its existence remains a mystery.
Now, I would be remissif I didn't tell you
that somebody has claimedto have figured out the mystery of J.C.
Brown.
In 2017,a researcher named Steven Sindoni,
who coincidentally is a believerin the legends of Lemuria, well,

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he tracked downa man named John Benjamin Bodie,
a mining engineerwho retired in Mount Shasta.
Bodie worked for the Lord CowdreyMining Company.
So did J.C. Brown.
And both his in-laws lived rightacross the street from where J.C.
Brown had given his daily lectureson Lemuria and the lost City of Telos.

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Obviously, the inference is that J.C.
Brown was really John Benjamin Bodie.
Interesting. But why?
Why go through all the troubleof setting up this gigantic ruse?
Or maybe it's just a coincidence.
If they were working for the same company,maybe they were both assigned
to the same area.

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For whatever reason, J.C.
Brown is gone, missing.
But he's certainly not the only one.
Mt. Shasta is one of the most notoriousspots in the country
for mysterious disappearances.
And here are a couple of the craziest.
On September 2nd, 2011, a family of fourare camping on Mount Shasta

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at Camp 4 of Fowlers Campgroundin the Shasta Trinity National Forest.
Around 6 p.m.,the three and a half year old toddler
and his sister are playingwith some other kids by the river.
The other kids come back,but the boy doesn't.
The family immediately launches a search,but after about 15 minutes

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of not finding him,they don't mess around and call 911.
Within 45 minutesof the arrival of the police,
100 people are already searching.
So from about 7:30 p.m.
to midnight,they are just combing everywhere.
Then, just before midnight, the dogsfind the boy

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hiding in a bush on the side of a trailthat has already been searched many times.
They take him back to campand they all have a nice, happy reunion.
High fives all around.
Search Successful.
Fast forward over a year.
A user by the name of MissKat1 posts

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that she isthe grandmother of the three year old boy.
She goes on to explain thatabout three weeks after that harrowing
camping trip, the boys at her houseand out of the blue says,
“I don't like the other Kappy,”which was his name for her, Grandma Kathy.
So she says,What are you talking about, buddy?
I'm the only Grandma Kappy.

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He says, “Don'tyou remember when I was lost in the woods?
Well, the other Grandma Kappy grabbed meand took me to a creepy place.
She's really a robot.” Now, thinking
that her grandsonjust has a wild imagination, she asks him,
“What was creepy about it.”“It was a cave with spiders.

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And there were purses and guns.
I was too scared.
So I didn't touch anything.
But when she climbed a ladder,the light made her look like a robot.
There were other robots, too,but they didn't move.
Kathy asks himwhy he thought she looked like a robot,
and he tells his grandmathat she had your same

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hair, your feet and even your face.
And the lights sparkled on herand she looked like a robot.
So Kathy is thinkingmaybe he means a hologram.
So she asks him what a robot is,
and he says it's made out of metaland has a remote control.
Okay, so he knows what a robot looks like.

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Her curiosity is at a 10.
She asks him for more informationand he tells her,
“She made me lie downto look at my tummy.” “Then
she tried to get me a poopon a sticky paper, but I couldn't go.
She told me that I am from outer spaceand they put me in my mommy's tummy.
Then she took me back to the riverand said to wait under the bush

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until someone found me.”Grandma Karthy calls his dad
wondering what in the hell he'sbeen letting this kid watch on TV.
And the dad says, “Yeah,he told me that story, too.
Crazy kids.” Now, normally she would have chalked
this up to the incredible imaginationof a three year old.
That is, if she hadn'talready had her own experience.

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Just one year earlier, she was campingin the same area with a friend.
She's in a tent,and the friend is in a camper.
Other than the factthat it's completely silent,
they have a nice night by the fire.
In fact, neither of them has seenany wildlife so far.
No birds, no squirrels, no bugs,

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except for the two crowsperched in the trees,
praying for food scraps to hit the groundbefore they call it a night.
They hear something in the trees,so they shine their flashlights
in their direction and are metwith several pairs of red eyes shine.
They just assume it's a herd of deer
heading for the riverand they just go to their separate beds.

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In the morning,Kathy is a little surprised when she wakes
up, face first in the dirt
outside of her tent and sleeping bag.
Now, as she puts it, “I'ma grandma in my fifties.
I don't sleep in the dirt.”She notices a pain on the back of her
neck and reachesaround to discover two puncture wounds.

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Plus, she's violently ill.
She puts the puncturewounds together with the nausea and thinks
it must be a spider bite.
Reasonable conclusion.
Except her friend in the camper
also wakes up with puncturewounds on the back of his neck
and is super sick.

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Interesting coincidence.
Now, all of that might soundas a little too far
off the beaten path for some of you.
But we have another missing person storythat is about as straight as they come.
And that is the story of Carl Landers.
Carl was a 69 year old manwho was on a mission

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to summit the highest peak in every countyin California.
He'd already tackled 57
of the 58, which left Mt.
Shasta in Siskiyou Countyin Northern California.
And Carl may have been 69,but to summit those other 57 peaks
means he's already tackled Mount Whitney

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at 14,505 feet, White Mountain
Peak at 14,252 feet
and northern Palisade at 14,248 feet,
all higher than Shasta.
So he's not a novice hiker.
Despite his wife having a badfeeling in her gut about this whole trip,

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on May 24th, 1999,Carl sets out to conquer
the last of the giants, Mount Shasta,with a couple of his friends,
Barry Gilmore, age 60, and Milton Gaines,
age 64 - also experienced hikers.
So when Carl, Berry and Miltonstart off that morning from Bunny Flat

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Trailhead heading up the AvalancheGulch route to the top,
everybody thought they're all good to go.
The Avalanche Gulchroute is a very straightforward trail
up to the top and is the route of choicefor most people.
Now, I'm not going to say that it's easy.
It's a total distance up and back of 11miles.

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You starting at almost 7000 feetand ascending another 7300 feet.
But as mountain summits go,
this one is relatively easy and safe.
Should be a routine trip.
By the evening of May 24th,the three men had made it
all the waypast Horse Camp to 50/50 Flats.

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They stopped there because they wantedto spend the night adjusting
to the altitude before heading up to Helenlake, another campsite
just 650 feet away from 50/50 Flats,
but a gain in altitude of 1,200 feet.
Now, Carl, while definitely in good shape

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and definitely experienced, was sufferingfrom a little bit of altitude sickness.
Altitude sicknessis when you get into areas of higher
elevation where the oxygen is thinner,making it harder to get enough oxygen
and can cause a myriad of flulike symptoms.
The next morning, May 25th,everyone wakes up and Carl says,

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“I'm still not feeling all that great,
which means I'mprobably going to move slow today.
So I'm going to go ahead.
And if it's okay with you
guys, I'm going to go aheadand get an early start up to Helen Lake.
And you guys can just catch up to me
there.”So he leaves 50/50 Flats for Helen Lake.
Just so you know, Helen Lake not a lake,

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just a flat areathat's a good spot to pitch a tent.
Now for a spring/summerhike like these guys are doing,
the temperatures are usually around60 degrees
and the weather on that particularday is fantastic.
Very little wind,full sunshine, just ideal.
Carl is wearing twoor three layers of clothes,

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including a rust colored jacket, ski pantsand hiking shoes with crampons,
which are just spikesthat you can clip to your boots
to give you better traction on the snowand the ice.
He also has a backpackwith food and water.
And at that elevation,
if there isn't snow on the ground,there's very little vegetation.

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There's a few trees here and there.
But for the most part, if you just lookup, you'll see your next destination.
The trail may meander a little,but it's basically just grass and rocks.
Now, to be clear,
if you are going from the 50/50 Flatsto Helen Lake,

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there is no way to get off trail.
It is just a straightshot up inside a gully.
If you fall, you will only slide back downto 50/50 Flats.
There are no crevices,there's no woods or underbrush.

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The trail does not split off.
There are no caves.
There is nowhere to get lost
between Camp 50/50 and Helen Lake.
Nowhere.
But regardless ofwhat is or isn't possible,
when Milton and Barryget up to Helen Lake, Carl's not there.

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He leaves the 50/50 Flatsand just vanishes.
Not a trace,no clothes, no backpacks, nothing.
And at this time of year,there are always people at Helen Lake.
That's the place that most peoplestart to camp for the night
before the final trek to the summit.

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But no one saw him there.
By that afternoon, a search is launchedheaded up by Grizz Adams,
a guy with 400 searchand rescue operations under his belt.
The search includes both the U.S.
Forest Service and the National Guard,with both the National Guard
and the state police contributinghelicopters, at least some of which

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using infrared sensors or FLIR,
scanning completely open territory.
And infrared picks up body temperature,so if anything warmer
than the ground temperature is there,the infrared sensors would pick it up.
But you guessed it.
Nothing.
The next morning, 50 people,including Rangers,

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volunteers and scent dogs, startsearching the trails,
including a few climbers that arehelicoptered to the top of the mountain
to search, starting at the topand working their way down,
just in case Carlkept going beyond Helen Lake.
But any experiencedhiker knows to stick to the plan.

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And the plan was hike to Helen Lake.
So Carl should have stopped right there.
That was the rendezvous point.
That was the plan.
Meet there beforestarting the next stage of the climb.
But no one finds a thing.
No snowy footprints heading off the trail
and the scent dogs pick up nothing.

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Grizz Adams, the head of the searchand rescue operation,
actually spoke with David Politis,who most of you know
as the author of the “Missing 411” bookseries.
And Grizz told David, “In
35 years,I have never had this happen to me.
We were all over that mountain.
He was not on the mountain.”

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Now, as far as what happened to Carl,Grizz had this to say,
“That's the million dollar question.” “He
either went up it or in it,
but he is not on it.” In addition,
a spokeswoman for the SiskiyouSheriff's Department released this.
we've just looked everywhere we can look

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and we just don't knowwhere else to look.” It's not like he's
out in the middle of the deep woodsin the middle of nowhere.
In fact,
there were a bunch of other people aroundHelen Lake
at the time of his disappearance.
And no one sees him.
I'm starting to think harderabout those Lemuria.
So what happened to him?
Well, there are a couple of options.

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Suicide by mountain?
Not likely.
He had a great family lifeand was tackling the very last piece
he needed to complete his bucket list goalof summiting all 58 county peaks.
Maybe some kind of altitude induceddementia or other health related event?
Well, things like thatare not uncommon for a man of his age.

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But even if something did happen to him,where would he go?
If he collapses on the trail,his friends would find him.
And if he lapses intosome kind of fugue state where he has
no idea where he is and wanders off,the infrared sensors would find him.
Animal attack. Nope.

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There are no large mammalsthat live at this high of an altitude.
Foul play?
Maybe, but it's determined thatneither of his friends have any motive
for killing him.
Not to mention the factthat you would have to be pretty stupid
to kill someone at that spot.
Considering there is absolutely no placeto hide a body.

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In the 25 years that have passed,
not a trace of Carl has ever been found.
This is one of those total headscratcher cases
where being taken by the Lemuriansis about the only option left.
Now, if there is a whole civilizationof people living within the mountain,
they are going to have to get outof the mountain on occasion.

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Right?
And how would they do that?
Well,we already know their vehicle of choice
is the cigar shaped airship.
Sounds funny, but there have been UFOsightings around Mt.
Shasta for over 100 years.
Of the top 300 UFO hotspots in the world,
Mount Shasta is ranked 13th.

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Some people have seen metallic objectshovering in the air,
while others reportlight formations around the mountain peak.
So way higher than a normal drone can fly,and they just disappear.
One of the more widely known recentsightings is the flying jellyfish of 2008.
The Mount Shasta Herald reportedthat the residents of the McCloud area

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saw what looks like a giant glowingjellyfish hovering over the mountain.
Made no noise, but it looked like
it had a fire burning inside of it.
We don't have any pictures of this one,but last year someone
captured this footage while looking outthe window of an airplane.

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And sometimes people see flying
objects flyright into the side of the mountain
like it's flying right through solid rock.
I told you those Lemurianswere getting bored inside that mountain.
Mt. Shasta is one of the few placesin the world that can boast
a very unique weather phenomenacalled lenticular cloud formation.

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And when you see these pictures, it's easy
to see why stories aboundabout UFO activity on the mountain.
But the reality of UFOs around
the mountain is actually very welldocumented.
The National UFO Reporting Center, or
NUFORC, alone has fifty-eight
reports dating back to just 2004,

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that just have the name Shasta in them.
So it doesn't include anythingthat someone might have entered with
just their city name,like Azalea, Black Butte or Weed. man,
that's heavy
One great sighting was reported to NUFORC
as happening in either 1964 or 1965.

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A bunch of fifthand sixth graders are outside for a school
assembly inwhat is now the city of Shasta Lake.
The weather's nice. Skies clear.
There are about 45 people gathered,including students, secretaries
and teachers.
When a silver disk shapedcraft flies over the school grounds

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with no noise, very low,just above the tall pine trees.
It glides over them and appears to landin some trees behind the school.
The teachers get everyone inside
into their classroomswhere the kids just sit in silence.
And they're told that the sheriffhas been called.
The witness then sees a manwalk by their classroom window,

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which is on the oppositeside of the school
from where the main school doorsand the principal's office are located.
So presumablythe place that the sheriff would go.
The man is not wearinga law enforcement uniform,
but instead is wearing a black suitand carrying a briefcase.
Men in black and walking in the direction

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of where the craft would have landed.
At 2 p.m.
the bell ringsand everyone is dismissed for the day.
The witness and their friend immediatelyhead out to where they think this thing
must have landed and meet some friendswho are already on their way back.
The friendstell them that the ship is gone, but
the witness and their friendgo to check it out anyway.

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They find a roughly 40 foot diameter
ring with burn marks along the outside.
Later, they even bring their mom tothe area who witnesses the ring as well.
And even years later, the witness saysthey returned to that spot
to find nothing growing there.

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Now, I find itinteresting that most modern reports
of alien encounters describe aliensthat are about four feet tall.
But Lemurians are rumoredto be 10 to 15 feet tall.
In fact, in 1930, a humanoid
skeleton over, eight feettall, was discovered 12 feet

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deep under a lava flow in Shasta County,just south of Mount Shasta.
And we still have the newspaper accountsto prove it.
And Native Americanfolklore says a race of giants
existed on the earthfor thousands of years.
But were suddenly wiped outin a great flood.

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Why is it always a flood?
Were they Lemurian?
Or are they the ancestors of the giantswe know today?
It's December 1999 in Northern California.
So it's no real surprisewhen one day, it starts snowing.
But it snows enough throughout the morningthat young Tyler's school

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in the town of Mount Shastaeventually throws in the towel and closes
for the day, shipping Tylerand all the rest of the kids home
before the snow gets toodeep to do so safely.
And I guarantee, from experience,
that every single kid in that schoolis praying that the snow keeps coming,
so they don't have to go to schoolthe next day either.

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When Tyler gets home, surprise,his dad has the rest of the day off too,
and says, “Hey, Tyler,I want to go sledding?” Well, of course!
that's a stupid questionto ask a young boy with a free afternoon
and a snowstorm.
So his dad has done a lot of cross-countryskiing around
different areas of the mountainand knew the area really well.

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So he picks out a great spot for sledding
and they grab an inflatablesaucer and a runner sled.
Runner sledsare those old fashioned wooden sleds
with metal runners on the bottom,and the runners in the front
turn,just enough to let you steer a little bit.
So if you're heading right for something,you can at least avoid a collision.

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And so they get to this hilland it's still snowing pretty good,
which is probably why nobody else was outthere.
Tyler and his dad have a great time
climbing up, sledding down, trading sleds.
Just pure little boy joy.
And somewhere around half an hour,45 minutes
in, Tyler and his dadare both at the top of the hill.

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Tyler sees his dadstaring down into the tree
line that's at the bottom of the hilland to the left.
At the bottom, to the right, it's clear,and that's where the cars would park.
So he sees his dad staring into the forestand he doesn't know it,
but his dad sees a dark shape
moving just inside the tree line.

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Tyler turns his head and triesto see what his dad is seeing,
but he doesn't see anything for a second.
But then he does.
Whatever this thing is,that his dad has been watching,
it steps out of the tree lineand into the snowy clearing
to the left of the sled run about 200-250feet away.
It was on two feet with broad

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shoulders standing perfectly still.
Tyler and his dad are both staring at it,squinting at it,
trying to figure out what exactlythat they're looking at.
Tyler's paging through his catalog
of known animals in his brainand coming up empty.
So he looks at his dadand waits for him to say something like,

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“There's a bear!”
or “Look, there's a mountain lion!”
Just then, this thing drops to all fours
and starts running at them, coming upthe slope from the base of the hill,
looking like it's coming right towardsthem.
Tyler's dad is still staring at it,
trying to figure out what it is.

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And finally, Tyler asks him, “Dad,
what is that?”And right at that moment, his dad turns,
picks Tyler up, puts him on the runnersled, gets on the back of the sled
and takes off down the hill,not even bothering to grab the other sled.
Sounds crazy, but they didn't.

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They really didn't have anywhere elseto go.
The back of the hillslopes are really deep and at the bottom
there's a fence.
Outrunning this -whatever it is - is their only option.
So they are tearing down the slope.
And this thing is coming up from the leftat an intercept angle
towards them,while they are angling to the right,

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towards the clearingwhere the car is parked.
Tyler's dad, with Tylerbetween his legs, is steering the sled
with his feet, riding the linebetween turning right as sharply
as he can, and turning too sharply,which will flip the sled over.
Obviously, suboptimal.
Tyler doesn'teven want to know what is happening.

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So he covers his face with his hands,until the need to know
just becomes too much.
And he peeks between his fingers.
He sees this thing coming righttowards them from the left
with large black shouldersstill running on all fours.
And it's close enoughnow that he can see that
what looked beforelike front legs are actually arms.

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It has shiny black hair, a big brow ridge
on its flat face, a thin, wide mouthwith long black hair around it,
big round eyes, and it's gallopingright at them.
His dad yells, “Get out of here,”as they pass it,
barelybeating it to the interception point.

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They were so close that Tyler thoughtthis thing was going to reach out
and just knock them both off the sled.
But it didn't.
They continue down to the bottomof the hill where Tyler's dad
pushes him off the sled, standsup, picks Tyler up by the arm,
and they both start running,leaving the sled behind.

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More snow has fallen in the tracksthat they had made coming in.
And Tyler is running as fast as he can.
But the snow is thick and deep.
His dad says “Don't look back!”
Tyler keeps running, but he can't help it.
He looks back and he sees the thing,
and it looks like it's stopped,and it's heading back up the hill.

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He keeps runningand after a few seconds looks again.
Now it's at the top of the hill,pacing back
and forth, standing upright again.
As they're both running towards the car,
they see coming up the small slope,
some men that look likethey're in the military, including guns.

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His dad says, “Hello,”as one of the men steps forward
ahead of the others, and startstalking to his dad.
They both turn and start walking awayfrom Tyler, so he can't quite hear them.
But it sounds like his dad is telling himwhat just happened.
The two men chat for a minute or so,when the military man
gesturesfor the other soldiers to move out.

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But they're going in the wrong direction.
Tyler is just about to say somethingwhen his dad turns
and looks at him,telling Tyler with his look, “Be quiet.
Don't say anything.” Tyler shuts his mouthand the men continue on their way.
Then the lead military guy starts pattingdown his dad, looking for something.
At first, Tylerthinks he's looking for weapons.

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But the more he thinks about it,he realizes
the guy's not looking for weapons.
He's looking for a camera or anything else
that could blow up this cover up.
He finds nothing, lets him go.
Tyler and his dad walk back to their carand go home.
It isn't until sometime laterthat Tyler's dad

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tells him that he deliberately sentthose soldiers in the wrong direction.
He said that when they were coming downthe slope on the sled,
he looked in the face of this animal.
This Sasquatch running on all foursand saw in its face
this overwhelming fear

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and that this thingjust wanted to be left alone.
And we would certainly be remissif we didn't also include
Sasquatch’s close cousin, Batsquatch.
The stories of Batsquatch beginwith the eruption of Mount
St Helens in Washington in the 1980s.
But one day in 2009, Paul Dale Roberts,

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from Haunted and Paranormal InvestigationsInternational, gets a phone call.
The caller says that he and his friendwere hiking around Mount Shasta
and out of one of the crevicesin the side of the mountain,
flies out this big creature,
as tall as a man, as stocky as Hulk Hogan,
and leathery wingswith a span of about 50 feet.

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This thing was so freaky
that even with a camera in his hands,he was too freaked out to get a picture.
Now, I hear you yelling out there. What?
No picture?
Well, once you come face to face witha Batsquatch, let me know how you react.
At first,he thought maybe it was a pterodactyl.

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But after looking up a pictureof a pterodactyl, he says that's not it.
The head is more like that of a bator a fox.
It was flying or gliding really fast
and finally flew into a clump of treesand vanished.
And for all you Dogman fans out there
who probably thinkI've forgotten about you, I have not.

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This little talecomes from Redditor 420Blazet.
He and his wife are drivingsouth on Highway 97,
which is on the north side of MountShasta, around midnight.
And they're driving through a heavilywooded area with no streetlights.
So all they have is the car's headlights.
They round the cornerand see something fast and low

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to the ground, dart across the streetabout 50 to 60 yards ahead of them.
But that brief moment is enough
for himto see the glowing animal eyes and a body
that is the size and shape of a big dog.
The body wasn't 100% clearbecause the car's
headlights hadn't quite reachedthat section of the road yet.

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But that does mean that the glowing eyesare not glowing from eye shine.
They're just glowing.
He asks his wife, “Didyou see that?” And his wife says, “Yup.”
So when they get to the exact pointin the road where the animal had crossed,
he slows the car and they both look to seeif there's anything there.
Is there a Dogman? Nope.Something weirder.

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There's a man dressed in army fatigueswalking down the road.
He doesn't even look at them.
He just keeps walking.
It's pitch black, and he doesn't haveany type of light with him.
He is only lit up by their headlights.
They both get full body chills
and are properly creeped out.

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Now, when we're talking about these areasthat just seem to be focal points
of high strangeness, we expect to hearstories of UFOs and encrypted sightings.
But Shasta also has its share of talesthat are just plain weird.
In 2011, a man from Los Angeles
is hiking the Pacific CrestTrail near Mount Shasta

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when he hears the beautifulsinging of a woman's voice.
Now he follows the voice and becomeslost in the woods,
only to be abductedand taken to a dark chamber in a cave.
Once there he is, stripped nakedand is approached by a tall woman
with striking beautiful blue eyesand bizarre, strange clothing.

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She gives him a gift,some secret information.
And this guy was gone for weeks.
When he finally does reappear, he believes
he is the 10th incarnation of Vishnu,a messianic Hindu god.
He changes his name to Lord Kalki,and never divulges

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the secret informationgiven to him by the mysterious woman.
Another
strange event is in an article writtenby Andrew Thomas and published
in the AustralianFlying Saucer Review in 1962.
A very curious eventhappened around the mountain in 1931.
A forestfire was raging around the mountain,

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threatening to consume everything in sightwhen out of nowhere
a foggy mist appears and advancesin the direction of the fire line.
And when the mist meets the fire,the fire stops in its tracks
and is contained while it either burnsitself out or is able to be extinguished.

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Once the fire is out, locals could seea clear line of demarcation
where the mist had protectedthe forest around the mountain.
Let's not forget that Mount Shastais also the location of events
that are just weirdly terrifying.
Brant Swanson,
writing for Mysterious Universe, reportsa tale sent to him personally.

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Back in the 1980s, a man decidesto take advantage of the beautiful sunny
day and goes for a walkon one of the hiking trails in the area.
And as he's strolling along the picture,perfect weather
turns gray and sour on a dime.
And he's just staying in there wonderingwhat the hell is going on with the weather

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when he sees a thick, soupy mist
coming from the forest in front of him,spreading through the brush on the ground.
He's just standing theretrying to process this misty mass
that looks like it came out of a 1950shorror film.
Two deer come bolting from the trees,
with one of the deer flying right past him

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just a few feet away,totally ignoring him.
The other one stops in the same clearinghe's in and just kind of freezes.
Then this mist, which is just kind of
been hugging the ground, speeds up.
When it reaches the deer's feet,
the deer goes into convulsionsand falls to the ground.

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That'swhen he sees this bigger wall of fog
coming from the treesthat heads straight for deer.
The fog is about as thick and denseas fog can get,
more of like a blob like mass.
And it stops right at the fallen deer.
After a few minutes, the fog dissipates,

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the mist rolls away and the sky is brightsunny again.
But no deer.
It's gone.
No body, blood, bones, nothing.
It didn't get up and run awaybecause he would have seen that.
It never left that fog.
It was just erased.
And now he wonderswhat would have happened

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if there were no deer and it was just himthat was in that clearing.
And now that we all feel like
we need a spiritual shower,
let's talk about the huge influxof spiritualism to the area.
I mean, all the regular religionsare there,
the Catholics,the Lutherans, the Baptists, etc..
The Buddhists actually built an abbeythere.

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Hindus are there and the occasional cult.
Allegedly.
But probably the mosttalked about religion,
at least when you're talking about MountShasta, is the I Am Activity movement.
In the 1930s, Guy Ballard,a mining engineer, was exploring Mt.
Shasta,looking for a branch of the Great White

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Brotherhood known as “TheBrotherhood of Mt.
Shasta”, which is a new agespiritual belief system,
when he stops for a break and takes a cupto get some fresh spring water.
As he does, an electrifyingjolt runs through his body.
He turns around to see a man standingthere just looking like another hiker.

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But Guy has the feelingthat this is no ordinary man.
The man tells him, give me your cupand I will give you something to drink
that is more refreshing than spring water.
Guy hands over his cup and the water
is instantly changed into a white,milky liquid.
Guy drinks the white liquid and feels

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an instant surge of energy.
And the man tells him that what he justdrank
comes directly from the Universal Supply.
It is life.
Omnipresent life.
The man goes on to reveal himself as being
the one and only Count of Saint Germain,which is a name

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some of you might recognize becausehe's pretty famous in the paranormal world
as the immortal man who never agesbeyond 45 years old.
Guy and his wife Edna, go onto take the teachings of Saint Germain
and use them to found the I Am Activitymovement and the Saint Germain Foundation.

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It wasn't a small movement either.
At its peak,it had over a million followers.
But then Guy diesand some followers leave.
And then Edna is suedfor copyright infringement
and some more followers leave.
But the I Am Activitymovement is still around,
and if you're so inclined,you can go to see the I Am Reading Room

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in Mount Shasta City.
Interesting note.
That copyright infringement case?
They were sued by the familyof Frederick Oliver.
Remember the guy who channeled Phylosthe Atlantean?
Well, apparently the Ballad’s liftedsome of their material straight
from Frederick Oliver's book, “ADweller on Two Planets.” But get this.

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The case was thrown out,because in the foreword of the book
written by Frederick himself,he says that he is not the author,
merely the secretary chosen by theLemurians to write down their message.
And even the copyright of the booklists him
as the proprietor, not as the author.

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So if he didn't write it,
then the Ballard’sdidn't infringe on anything.
Wow. One thing that can't be deniedis that there are
a whole lot of people out therewho feel a spiritual connection
to this mountain, which is believed to beone of the seven sacred peaks on earth.

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A full 25 to 50% of the touristswho visit the mountain and the city of Mt.
Shasta come looking forsome kind of spiritual experience,
also known as Spiritual Tourists.
And there are plenty of companiesin the area to help, offering
guided vision quests, shamanic awakenings,

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vortex visits, and crystal collections.
The area is home to more than 100different spiritual sects
or religionsand dozens of New Age businesses.
Many of those tourists never leave,
instead opting to heedthe call of the mountain.

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Lewis Al Binger, a retiree who starteda donation based tea shop in Mt.
Shasta, says,
I Lewis Elbinger,a retiree who started a donation-based
teashop in Mount Shastasays, “I was called.
The mountain called me.” “When “WhenI'm walking through the forest,
I feel like I'm walking througha cathedral.” Few places on this earth
speak to everyone,natural and supernatural alike, like Mt.

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Shasta.
And if you ever do decide to govisit this breath taking place
of energy and mystery, make sure you heedthe warning of the local natives.
Do not go above the tree line.
That area is reserved for the Sky People.

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Thanksfor tuning in to The InBetween Podcast.
Enjoy the full visual experiencewith me over on YouTube.
Just search for @TheInBetweenTales.
I'm Carol Ann.
And until next time, be careful out
there. You.

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