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Strange mysteries, unexplained phenomena.
And the shadows in between.
This is The InBetween Official Podcastwith your host,
Carol Ann!
In 1966,
an aerospaceengineer published a 57 page book
that was so terrifying,the CIA immediately classified it.
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For over 50 years,they kept it locked away,
releasingonly sanitized portions to the public.
The book wasn't about nuclear weaponsor state secrets.
It was about somethingfar more terrifying.
The end of our world happeningin less than a single 24 hour period.
And the most chilling part?
Some of what this crazy engineer predictedmay be coming true.
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We are diving intothe classified catastrophe theory
that the government doesn'twant you to read.
I'm Carol Ann.
Welcome to The InBetween.
With a rumble
so low as to be inaudible,growing, throbbing,
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then fuming into a thundering roar,the earthquake
starts...only it's not like any earthquakein recorded history.
In California, the mountains shakelike ferns in a breeze.
The mighty Pacific rearsback and piles up into a mountain of water
more than two mileshigh, starting is raced eastward.
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With the force of a thousand armies,the wind attacks
ripping, shreddingeverything in its supersonic bombardment.
The unbelievable mountain of Pacificseawater follows the wind eastward,
burying Los Angeles and San Franciscoas if they were but grains of sand.
Nothing but nothing stops the relentless,
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overwhelming onslaught of wind and oceanacross the continent.
The thousand mile per hour wind wreaksits unholy vengeance everywhere.
Mercilessly. Unceasingly.
Every living thing is ripped into shredswhile being blown across the countryside,
and the earthquake leavesno place untouched.
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In many places,the Earth's molten sublayer breaks through
and spreads a sea of white hotliquid fire to add to the Holocaust.
Within three hours, the fantasticwall of water moves across the continent,
burying the wind ravaged landunder two miles
of seething water, coast to coast.
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In a fraction of a day,all vestiges of civilization are gone.
And the great cities Los Angeles,San Francisco, Chicago,
Dallas, Detroit are nothing but legends.
Barely a stone is left where millionswalked just a few hours before.
That’ll wake you up in the morning.
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That’ll wake you up in the morning, boy.
That is the description of our future
or possible future by one Dr.
Chauncy Powers Thomas, Chan for short,
in his book The Adam and Eve Story.
And before you jump to the ideathat this guy has a screw loose,
just know that he's not some basementdwelling conspiracy theorist.
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He passed away in 1998,but he was a legitimate
electrical engineerwho worked on classified projects
at McDonnell Douglas and Bell Labsduring the height of the Cold War.
This was a man with security clearanceworking on missile guidance systems,
and according to some sources, UFOand anti-gravity research.
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Born in Missouriin 1920, Thomas was the kind of brilliant,
eccentric mind that the aerospace industry
seemed to attractduring those wild years of the space race.
He had the credentials to be takenseriously - electrical engineering
degrees, patents,classified project experience.
But he also had the kind of restlessintellect that wouldn't stay in its lane.
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While other engineers were contentto perfect radar systems and rocket
guidance, Thomas was reading ancient floodmyths, studying geological records
and asking uncomfortable questionsabout human history.
Questions like:
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What if the Earth has a reset button?
And what if someone is about to push it?
So what exactly is the good doctortalking about here?
Well, let's start at the beginning.
Doctor Thomas was an avid proponentof the work of a guy named Charles
Hapgood, who in 1958 wrotea book called The Earth's Shifting Crust.
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Today we take the theory of platetectonics, moving us around for granted.
But that theory didn'tbecome accepted science until the late
60s, partly because of Hapgood research.
And Hapgood was no slouch either.
Two of his books,including the one on the shifting
crust, had forewordswritten by Albert Einstein.
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Thomas then took Hapgood’s theoryand fed it steroids.
Here is his theory in a nutshell.
The Earth's
outer shell, consisting of the crustand upper mantle
approximately 60 miles thick, shiftsperiodically over its molten interior.
The shell is typically stabilizedby a thin layer within the upper mantle,
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located between 60 and 120 milesbeneath the surface,
which is usually relativelysolid and stays that way
most of the time,because of the planet's magnetic field.
However, every 6,000 to 7000 years,neutral atomic matter
leaks from the solid inner coreinto the surrounding liquid outer core.
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This influx is believed to causea substantial atomic reaction
resembling a controlled explosionwithin the planet,
which temporarily neutralizesthe magnetic field.
Kind of like an EMP.
And as a result, the usual solid
layer under the crust liquefies entirely,
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transforming into a frictionless fluidakin to oil on a spinning top.
This allows the two poles,which are heavier
because of their significant ice buildups,to cause the shell to slip and rotate
up to 90 degrees in a time frame
as short as a quarter to half a day.
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So the poles end up at the equator,and the equator ends up at the poles.
The consequences of the shiftare catastrophic.
As the shellmoves, the oceans and atmosphere,
governed by inertia, continuetheir eastward momentum
at speeds exceeding1000mph relative to the shifting crust.
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This generates supersonic winds that erodethe surface, while displaced waters
create massive waves up to two mileshigh, flooding continents.
It's like the tablecloth trick.
The crust is the tablecloth.
Except in this instance,the dishes all break.
The sudden movement fractures the crust,triggering earthquakes of immense
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magnitude and volcanic eruptionsthat release widespread lava flows.
The chaos is estimated to go onfor about six days,
after which the shell stabilizesin a new orientation, potentially
initiating a mini ice age, leavingprimitive societies to start from scratch.
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Thomas's concept is totally in linewith traditional plate tectonics.
The only difference being that Hapgood’sidea, the idea mainstream
science has today, is that all of thishappens over millennia.
Thomasthinks it will happen in an afternoon.
I do have to point out, though,that Thomas's internal atomic trigger
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is totally a hypothesis on his part,but it kind of aligns
with evidence of magnetic fieldreversals observed in geological records,
According to Thomas,geological and fossil evidence
suggest that the Earth's rocklayers and fossil deposits
show signs of rapid, catastrophic shifts,rather than gradual uniform changes.
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One primeexample is the flash frozen mammoths
found in Siberian and Alaskan permafrost,such as the Beresovka mammoth
discovered in 1901,whose stomach contained undigested
food and its mouth was full of buttercupsand grass.
This preservation indicates an abruptdeep freeze, with temperatures
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possibly dropping to -150 Fahrenheitalmost instantly,
while the animal grazedin a temperate environment,
similar muck pitsacross the northern Hemisphere,
from Alaska's Gold Stream valleyto Siberia's Lena River, contain
millions of tons of jumbled bonesfrom mammoths,
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wooly rhinoceroses, steppe bison,horses, and saber toothed cats.
These sites extend to Florida, New Jersey,
and Texas, showno evidence of slow sedimentation.
Instead, the animals appear mangledand buried violently.
Uniform, fine grained mud depositshundreds of feet thick and consistent
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in composition, can be seenin sedimentary layers in the Grand Canyon,
Arizona's Painted Desert,and South Dakota's Badlands.
Thomas thinks these all stemmedfrom one giant global flood,
instead of millions of years of erosion.
Ancient coral reefs have been foundon the Atlantic seafloor
at a depth of 2,000 to 3000ft.
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Keep in mind coral doesn'tusually go down past 300ft.
And jade, which usually forms 10to 30 miles deep in the ground, deposited
in Asian riverbeds, could indicatemassive upheaval in the Earth's crust.
Paleontological evidence includes suddenextinctions at the end of the Pleistocene,
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where 90% of large NorthAmerican mammals disappeared without any
clear evolutionary transitions,consistent with a catastrophic wipe out.
Varve counts, which are countingthe annual sediment layers in lakes
in Sweden, Minnesota and New Jersey,synchronize at about 11,500 years ago,
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meaning that all of these lakeswere formed at the same time.
Could be a coincidence, but it could alsobe the signature of some global event.
Oceanographic data showssea levels rebounded by
200ft postcataclysm, as waters redistributed, while
seismological patternsshow fault line areas
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consistent with a crustal joyride.
Although mainstream science attributessome of these findings
to masses of animals just fallinginto bog pits or glacial melting,
the convergence of data acrossstratigraphy, paleontography,
oceanography, and seismologysuggest world wide instantaneous
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(cosmically speaking) catastrophes
that challenge mainstream explanations.
Cultural narrativesand ancient texts are encoded memories
of these cataclysmic eventpreserved across generations.
Hundreds of flood legends are documentedworldwide, with a notable concentration
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in geologically sensitive regionslike the Malay Peninsula,
a potential pivot pointfor shell rotations.
Indigenous Peruvian accountsdescribe the sun standing still for days,
while Tierra del Fuego narrativescall it setting in the wrong direction.
Observations that could be interpretedas a way to explain the sun
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moving in a waythat the sun had never moved before.
Malayan Aborigines report a long nightlasting weeks.
And Australian Aboriginal Dreamtime
stories depicta world overturned by water and fire.
In the Old World, Greek, Egyptianand Hindu epics reflect similar themes.
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Homer's Iliad referencesa great year of deluge.
While Egyptian priests, as cited by Platoin Timaeus, warned of cyclic destructions
every 9000 years that erased advancedcivilizations like Atlantis,
dating to approximately 11,500 years ago.
Check out our video on Atlantisto see that evidence.
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Link in the description.
Archeological evidence supportsthese interpretations.
The Piri Reis map from 1513 depictsan ice free Antarctica,
suggesting surveysfrom an inter-cataclysm warm period.
Bolivia's Tiahuanaco ruinselevated 12,500ft above sea
level and 800ft above Lake Titicaca,
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featured docks and port structures.
So either the lake was way higher
or the whole area got a whole lot higher.
Linguistic similarities, suchas shared roots between Mayan, Polynesian,
Greek, and Eskimo languageshint at cataclysm survivors
being scatteredto every corner of the globe.
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He even reinterprets the Six Daysof Creation in the Book of Genesis
as a metaphorical representationof Earth's recovery and renewal
following a cataclysmic polar shift,rather than a literal creation event,
with each day symbolizing a stage of shiftstabilization.
And amazingly enough, Doctor Thomas is noteven the first guy to bring this up.
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A man named Georges Cuvier did.
He was a French naturalist and zoologistin the late 18th and early 19th
centuries, and is often calledthe father of paleontology.
He pioneered comparative anatomy,showing how species and structures
reveal their functionsand established extinction
as a scientific factthrough fossil studies.
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He proposed sudden Earthrevolutions, global scale catastrophes
like massive floods and upheavalsas the direct causes of mass extinctions.
You can imaginehow that went over in 1800.
But once Charles Hapgoodbroke the ice with his pre-plate tectonics
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crust moving theory, the door was wideopen for Doctor Chan to marry
the two ideas into his catastrophic crustslippage theory.
And according to this theory,based on his 6500 year
cycle from the last floodevent, were due right about now.
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So what is real here?
Well, the theory he espoused was real.
His book is real.
And the fact that the CIA classifiedit is true.
But there are plenty of caveats.
So what exactly did the CIA classify?
Well, along with a copy of Thomas's book,they locked away
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what appears to be a random collectionof his personal effects,
an interoffice memo,a shopping list for tools and car
parts,and a folded article from People magazine.
Now, I don't know this for a fact,but I would not be surprised
if the CIA already had a file on Doctor
Thomas, since he was workingin some pretty sensitive projects.
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Why they found it prudentto save a copy of a People
magazine article and a hardware storeshopping list, I don't know.
But remember,it was the height of the Cold War.
People were still freaking outabout how close
we came to nuclear warjust a couple of years earlier.
So any kind of doomsdayscenario is pretty popular.
It was just a weird time in generalwith people
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getting interestedin fringe theories of any kind.
And the CIA was paranoid about everything,
mainly because they werethe ones doing the really weird stuff.
They were running mind controlexperiments, testing psychics for remote
viewing, and investigating every possiblethreat to national security.
So when Thomas published his book,the CIA got a copy
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for internal review,classified it and stuck it in his file.
Considering Hollywood was 50 years awayfrom making disaster movies on this scale,
maybe they thought a book describingthe end of the world as we know it
with this level of detailwould freak people out even more.
But public copies of The Adamand Eve Story
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have circulated freelysince its 1963/1965 editions.
So it's not like the book itselfwas banned.
Now, it is truethat when they declassified
their copy of the book in 2013,it was full of redactions.
And help me if I'm missing something here,but I don't really understand why,
considering it was available to the publicanyway.
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One theory is that the CIA's copy came
straight from Thomas,with a little extra “something,
something” information included,that was not in the original printing.
But I have a PDF of boththe original 45 page edition
and the CIA classified version,
which is supposed to be redacted,but I see no redactions whatsoever.
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I haven't compared the two versionsword for word,
but it looks like they are identical,
with the only exceptionbeing the actual page layout.
Personally,
I think the CIA was keeping an eye on himmore because of the other things
that he was involvedin, like UFOs, then because of this book.
But the big questionwe all should be asking,
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regardless of all of thiscloak and dagger business,
is, is he right?
Well, he was about a few things.
First, let's talk about those global floodmyths.
We've got themfrom every culture on Earth.
The Bible's Noah, the MesopotamianGilgamesh epic, Mayan flood stories.
Native American legends, HinduPuranas, Greek myths about Deucalion.
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Everyone has the same tale of waters
that wiped out previous civilizations.
Thomas argued that these weren't myths,but memories.
He said the last great floodhappened around 6500 years ago,
not the Younger Dryasevent 11,500 years ago.
And guess what?
In recent decades, archeologistshave found evidence of massive
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flooding events around exactly that timeperiod.
The Black Sea deluge, the breachingof the Mediterranean, evidence
of the Great flood mentionedin Chinese texts, all dating to around
6500 to 7000 years ago.
Second, remember how mainstream scienceused to mock the idea of continental
drift?
The idea that the Earth's skincould slide around on top of the mantle.
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Thomas's mentor, Charles Hapgood, proposedthat Earth's crust
could shift positionand was ridiculed for it.
And guess what?
Continental drift is now accepted fact.
We know the continents have been wanderingaround for billions of years,
forming supercontinentslike Pangea, breaking apart
and reassembling over and over again.
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Third, he get the pole drift part right.
Well, technically, I guess it'spart of the continental drift.
But his idea that areaslike the Hudson Bay and the Sudan Basin
were once located up at the NorthPole is correct.
Now, let's talk about those woolymammoths.
Am I the only one who wants to name themall Snuffleupagus?
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This point is really interesting to me.
Personally,I don't think Thomas's claim is correct,
but I don't think mainstream scienceis either.
The specific mammoth that DoctorThomas refers to as proof of his rapid
cooling theory is the Beresovka -Snuffleupagus.
- Mammoth, discovered along the BeresovkaRiver way north in Siberia.
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It is a well preservedfull mammoth carcass,
one of the very few to be foundwith a majority of its tissue intact.
But not just tissue.
It had blood in its veins and undigestedbuttercups in its stomach and mouth.
Whatever happened to him happened so fasthe didn't even have time to chew.
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According to mainstream paleontology,they think he slipped on
an embankment cavein, and was covered in a cold mudslide
that then refrigerated him,eventually freezing him in place.
Or since he was found standing up,
he was in a ravineand the mudslide covered him over.
Whatever the case,we know that he was covered in mud
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not only because of the layering
of the mud around him,but because he had mud in his lungs
and had the telltale signsof dying of asphyxia.
Our Snuffleupagus weighed about 10,000pounds,
covered in mud that would actas insulation from outside temperatures.
So it should have taken himweeks to even months to fully freeze.
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Think about how long it takes youto defrost your Thanksgiving turkey,
and defrosting is faster than freezing,But the bacteria in his guts would have
purified the food in his stomach longbefore it could freeze.
So how is it possible for himto have food in his stomach?
Doctor Thomas citesthis as proof that a major freezing event
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had to have befallen poor Snuffy,almost instantaneously.
Or maybe he was in the midst of itwhen he died.
But even if the surface temperaturesuddenly dropped to the -150 degrees
that Thomas says it would, is that enough
to freeze Snuffy in hours versus weeks?
I don't know.
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But it also means that the mainstreamversion, that Snuffy died in a mudslide
and froze in the ambient Siberiantemperatures doesn't hold water either.
The freezing actionwith the mud insulation
would have taken too long forthose buttercups to still be buttercups.
Not to mention that the North Pole doesnot get nearly as cold as the South Pole.
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Temperatures at the North Poledon't drop below -50°F.
Minnesota gets colder than thatin a good winter.
So absent of some super stormfreezing event,
ambient temperatures just couldn'tfreeze him fast enough.
So is Thomas right or wrong on this one?
I have no idea.
But it seems like it would haveto have taken some kind of extraordinary
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freezing eventto freeze Snuffy with his buttercups.
So maybe I do side with him on this one.
That does not, however, meanI agree with this theory as a whole.
Maybe it's true.
I don't know.
It's not likewe've been around long enough to find out,
but there's a crap ton of speculationhappening here.
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In fact, from reading his book, it's easyto see how he often frames
this whole catastrophic cycleas a spin cycle way of cleaning the earth.
“Yes,the cataclysm has done its work well.
The greatest population regulatorof all does once more for man.
What he refusesto do for himself, and drives
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the pitiful few who surviveinto a new Stone age.”
So part of me thinks he just came upwith this whole thing
as just a way to articulate his dreammethod of population control.
An argument I take issue with. Fun fact.
Did you know you can fit all the 8
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billion people of Earthonto the island of Maui?
I think we have plenty of space.
But whether his theory is true or not,I am good either way.
Because after a long chat with Grok,he assures me that
the two mile high wavewill never make it to Minnesota.
So we just have to survive the windand hope
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we don't finally landat the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.
Okay,so I may not agree with Doctor Thomas,
but if you came herefor a good dose of Armageddon today,
I got you covered, because we are farfrom being out of the woods yet.
And I'm not talking about building sizeasteroids sailing through our atmosphere.
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I'm talking about a different dangercoming from our very own Mother Earth.
A magnetic pole shift.
Our magnetic poles are moving fast.
And accelerating.
In the 1990s, the North Poledrifted about nine miles per year.
By 2000, it was moving somewhere between34 and 40 miles per year, depending on
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who you ask Today it’s slowing a bit,
but it's still at 22 miles per year.
GPS systems
that used to be updated every five yearsnow need updates every six months.
Flight paths have to be constantlyrecalculated.
Compasses are becoming unreliablein many parts of the world.
Worse yet, the Earth's magnetic fieldis weakening, down about 10% in the last
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150 years, with some regionsshowing losses of 15% or more
In the South Atlantic, there's an areacalled the South Atlantic Anomaly,
where the magnetic field is so weakthat satellites
regularly malfunctionwhen they pass over it.
Scientists now openlydiscuss the possibility of a magnetic pole
reversal, where north becomessouth and south becomes north.
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Something that allegedly happenson average every 320,000 years.
Some scientists saythe last one was 780,000 years ago,
which would mean we are way overdue.
Others believe we might already bein the early stages of a reversal.
But before you start digging that bunker,
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just know that 320,000 is only an average
of the number of flipswe've had in the last 83 million years.
But these flips vary by an insane amount.
Before this 83 million year period,
we went 40 million years without one.
So who's to say we won't go another20 million years before we flip it again?
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But even if that were the case,
it does not meanwe may not have trouble on the horizon.
Now, let's be clear.
A magnetic poleshift wouldn't cause Thomas's catastrophic
crustal displacement,but it would leave us vulnerable in ways
that would make his apocalyptic visionseem quaint by comparison.
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Without our magnetic field,every solar storm
becomes a potential civilization ender.
Our satellites would fry.
GPS would fail.
Power grids would collapse.
The internet would go dark.
We'd be thrown back to the Stone age.
Not by crustal displacement, butby our own technology turning against us.
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We've already seen previews of this.
The 1859 Carrington Eventwas a massive solar storm
that knocked outtelegraph lines worldwide.
Telegraph operators receivedelectric shocks, telegraph poles
caught fire and some telegraph systemscontinued to work
even after being disconnectedfrom their power sources.
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They were being powered by the electricalcurrents induced by the magnetic storm.
If a Carrington level event happenedtoday, estimates suggest
it would cause $1 to $2 trillion in damage
and take 4 to 10 yearsto fully recover from.
And that’s with our magnetic fieldmostly intact.
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Without any field, a moderate
solar storm could end modern civilization.
And the Earth has already had timesoutside of these full reversal flips
where the magnetic field has goneseriously wonky.
These are called excursions.
A nice vacationy sounding word for troublewithout a full flip.
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41,000 years agowas the Laschamp Excursion
when the magnetic field dropped 90 to 95%
and lasted 2000 years.
33,000 years agowas the Mono Lake Excursion,
where the field dropped at least 75%.
Now, if we did have a full magnetic fieldreversal,
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the field typically does not fall to zero.
But the whole processtakes thousands of years.
That's a lot of extra sunscreen to protectourselves from those extra cosmic rays.
But to make you feel a little bit better,just think of how spectacular
the Northern and Southern Lights will be.
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Now, I know that all of this informationsounds really scary.
But relax.
The Earth's crust is always moving.
The climate is always shifting.
And life always finds a way.
Ooh. That kind of gets your heartrate up a bit, doesn't it?
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I don't know about you,
but I feel like I need to buy a shoveland get my bunker started.
But if you'd rather stay right hereand learn more about your universe,
that maybe you didn't know, click righthere.
It'll do the job.
I promise.
Be careful out there.
And I will see you hereagain, on The InBetween.
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I'm Carol Ann.
And until next time, be careful out
there!