February 7, 2025 • 53 mins
Mount Shasta. The strangest, most paranormal place on Earth? What's going on there? From UFOs, Bigfoot, Missing persons, Atlantis and Lemuria, Agartha and the Hollow Earth and all sorts of unexplained weirdness.
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Strange mysteries, unexplained phenomena.
And the shadows in between.
This is The InBetween Official Podcastwith your host,
Carol Ann!
Mount Shasta is a veritable
Chinese buffet of supernatural goodness.
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And I guarantee you that in an hour,you're going to want more.
Welcome to The InBetween.
I'm CarolAnn and today's video is a gigantic
smorgasbord of history,lore and high strangeness.
Hope you brought your appetitefor weirdness
as we open upthe paranormal firehose of Mount
Shasta.
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Mount Shasta,
located in Northern California,about an hour south of Oregon,
is 14,179 feet above sea level,
within the 2.2 million acre,Shasta Trinity National Forest.
It is the second highest peak and thesouthernmost volcano in the Cascade Range.
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And it appears as though no one has a clueas to when it last erupted.
The United StatesGeological Survey says 3,200 years ago,
the Global Volcanism Program says870 years ago, while sailors of the French
La Pérouse expeditionsay they saw go off just 200 years ago.
But regardless of its past, in 2018,the USGS updated its list
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of the most hazardous volcanoesin the country.
And Mount Shasta ranked fifth
out of the list's18 “very high threat” volcanoes.
I don't really like those odds.
Now, in order to put the whole of MountShasta craziness into context,
I first need to start with the tale of twofabled cities, about a million years
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ago, Atlantis in the Atlantic Oceanand Lemuria or Mu in the Pacific.
And according to legend,between these two,
they pretty much ownedthe rest of the world.
They are both very technologicallyadvanced, more advanced than we are.
And even though Atlantishad the advantage over Lemuria,
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Atlanteans were a benevolent societythat lived in peace
with the Europeans for millennia.
However, about 25,000 years ago,the Atlanteans got a little too big
for their britches and decided worlddomination sounded like a good idea.
Lemurians said, “I don't think so,”and the two begin a war, to end all wars.
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By the time they're done,their advanced weaponry has done
so much damage to the surface of the earththat the tectonic plates shift
causing their magnetic poles to shiftso suddenly that
a massive global flood wiped outboth civilizations.
Millions of people die on both sides.
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A few surviving Atlanteansevacuate to Agartha,
an underground cityinside the Hollow Earth.
Upcoming episode anyone?
The last of the Lemurians fled to Mt.
Shasta and establisheda city called Telos, which legend claims
now houses 1.5 million
highly evolved spiritual beings.
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Now, the Native American tribesin the area will tell you that
Shasta was createdby the Old Man of the Sky, who somewhere
between seven and 10,000 years ago wantedto come down to earth from the heavens.
But he didn't have a way to climb down.
So he made a hole in the skyand shoved dirt and ice through the hole
into a pile until it was tall enoughfor him to climb down onto the earth.
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Then he creates life on Earth,but goes a little nuts about it,
and makes too many grizzly bears,which scare the crap out of him,
so he hollows out the mountainto create a teepee to stay in.
They say you could still see the smoke
rising from the topuntil the white man came.
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Native American tribes are documentedas living around that area, going back
7 to 10000 years. But it's likely
the Lemurians are homelessand looking for new digs before that.
So maybe,and I'm just throwing this out here...
Maybe the Lemurians builtthe mountain themselves
as a new gated communitycondo complex for themselves.
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I mean, if they had the technologyto destroy the known world,
maybe they had the technologyto build a mountain.
And one of the reasons I say this isbecause of the location of the mountain.
Most mountains are part of a range.
I mean, Shatsa’s part of a range,
the Cascade Range,but it's still just sitting there
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in the middle of relatively flat country,like somebody just plopped it there.
I mean, if the Lemurians didn't make it,then the Old Man of the Sky sure did.
Fast forward to the summer of 1883.
Frederick S.
Oliver, a teenager at the time, is helpinghis family stake out their mining claim.
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And as he's writing down notesand coordinates of the claims
location,his hand starts shaking and writing notes
and his notebook against Frederick's will.
He understandably starts to panicand runs home
with his hand,trying to write the whole time.
Frederick's mother doesn't panic.
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She just gives him a piece of paperto write on.
By the time this episode is over,shortly thereafter,
Frederickand his mother are shocked to realize that
what he has written down is the beginningof some weird dissertation.
Over the next few years, Frederickwould occasionally have his hand
commandeered by this outside forcenamed Phylos, the Thibetan,
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who would dictate a few more pages hereand there.
Phylos is a spirit entitywho has lived a previous life
as an Atlantean who obviously finds itpretty important to get a hold of somebody
who can write down informationabout the Atlantean civilization.
Although I would think that if they'd been
that technologically advanced,they would have thought to invent paper.
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Or maybe Phylos is just really bored.
Anyway, this goes on until 1895,
when Phylos has apparently saidall he needs to say.
Frederick Oliver diesfour years later at the age of 33.
We will come back to Frederickin a moment.
skip ahead a couple of years to 1904,
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when a British prospector, J.C.
Brown, comes to Mount Shastaon behalf of the Lord
Cowdrey mining company to look for gold.
One day, while exploring the mountain,Brown stumbles across a rockfall.
It just looks kind of odd, likemaybe there's something behind it.
So he starts to clear it,and it doesn't take long
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before he realizes that behindthat pile of rocks
is a tunnelleading down into the darkness.
And seeing as though he's thereto look for gold,
a tunnel into the mountain is awesome.
So he starts down the tunnel.
Now, the fact that there's a tunnelthere, it's not that unusual.
There are lava tubes all over the mountainthat go on for miles.
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The longest being Pluto's Cave,
which is hikeable for over a milebefore you get to the unsafe part.
Who knows how long it really is.
So J.C.
starts hiking for miles and milesinto the darkness.
By his estimate,he hikes 11 miles before reaching the end.
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And what's at the endseems way more valuable than gold.
He finds a network of rooms and chambers,almost like an abandoned ancient city.
He finds ornate statuesthat seem to glow in the dark,
crystals, tablets,weapons and shields made of gold
and items that to himseem like machines of some kind.
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But the most shocking find iswhat looks to be a burial chamber
that holds at least 27 mummies,
ranging from 6 to 10 feet
tall in ornately decorated robes.
Now, obviously,he's very excited about this find.
It is an archeological Disneyland.
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But not being an archeologist, he'snot quite sure what to do.
So he covers the tunnel entranceand pretends
he didn't find anythinguntil he can figure out his next move.
One year later, so 1905,
Frederick Oliver's mom publishesthe book of writings
her son had channeled over those few yearscalled “A Dweller on Two Planets”,
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which turns out to be a whole accounting
of the Atlantean civilizationand technology.
He even describessome pretty modern concepts
like quantum mechanics, anti-gravity,
zero point energy and mass transit.
And the mass transit vehicle of choice?
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The cigar shaped airship.
Now, apparently the Lemurians are justa little smarter than the Atlanteans
because they don't need to channel anyoneto get their history recorded.
They manage to write down their historyand leave it in the capable
hands of the Hindus in India,who then share the information
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with a guy named James Churchward,who then publishes a book in 1926
detailing the history of Lemuria,which he renames Mu.
So back to our guy, J.C. Brown.
While he's toiling away at regular life,
he's still trying to figure outexactly what it is he found in that cave.
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He becomes obsessed with Churchward’sbook about the lost continent of Mu,
and most certainlywould have heard of the Lemurians,
as well as FrederickOliver's book on Atlantis.
And after all of his research,he decides that the cave must belong
to the Lemurian civilizationthat is residing in the mountain.
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That's it!
Time to go back.
So after 30 years, J.C.
heads back to the Mt.
Shasta area,and he is so steeped in all of the legend
and the lore of the Lemurians
that he actually startsgiving daily lectures on the topic.
Through these lectures,he manages to put together a search
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team of 80 people, including
researchers, scientists and explorers,
to go back to the mountain with himto find the tunnel.
The expedition is scheduledfor June 19th, 1934.
It's a really big deal.
The newspapers write about itand everybody in town is excited.
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The whole team of 80 adventurers
assembled, ready to find this lost city.
But J.C.
is nowhere to be found.
In fact, no one sees hidenor hair of him ever again.
So what happened to him?
Was he taken out by people who didn'twant this information getting out?
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Maybe it was the government.
The government? Keep secrets?
Or did he earn himself a one way ticket
into the city of Telosby the Lemurians themselves?
Or maybe he was just a con man.
Maybe.
But he never tooka single dime of anyone's money.
Not a very good con man.
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His strange disappearanceobviously leads people to question
the authenticity of Brown's entire storyof the subterranean city of riches
with giant mummiesthat he supposedly found.
But that didn't stop people from looking.
Numerous modern explorershave claimed to have found Brown's tunnel,
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mummies and all, although its location
and even its existence remains a mystery.
Now, I would be remissif I didn't tell you
that somebody has claimedto have figured out the mystery of J.C.
Brown.
In 2017,a researcher named Steven Sindoni,
who coincidentally is a believerin the legends of Lemuria, well,
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he tracked downa man named John Benjamin Bodie,
a mining engineerwho retired in Mount Shasta.
Bodie worked for the Lord CowdreyMining Company.
So did J.C. Brown.
And both his in-laws lived rightacross the street from where J.C.
Brown had given his daily lectureson Lemuria and the lost City of Telos.
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Obviously, the inference is that J.C.
Brown was really John Benjamin Bodie.
Interesting. But why?
Why go through all the troubleof setting up this gigantic ruse?
Or maybe it's just a coincidence.
If they were working for the same company,maybe they were both assigned
to the same area.
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For whatever reason, J.C.
Brown is gone, missing.
But he's certainly not the only one.
Mt. Shasta is one of the most notoriousspots in the country
for mysterious disappearances.
And here are a couple of the craziest.
On September 2nd, 2011, a family of fourare camping on Mount Shasta
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at Camp 4 of Fowlers Campgroundin the Shasta Trinity National Forest.
Around 6 p.m.,the three and a half year old toddler
and his sister are playingwith some other kids by the river.
The other kids come back,but the boy doesn't.
The family immediately launches a search,but after about 15 minutes
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of not finding him,they don't mess around and call 911.
Within 45 minutesof the arrival of the police,
100 people are already searching.
So from about 7:30 p.m.
to midnight,they are just combing everywhere.
Then, just before midnight, the dogsfind the boy
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hiding in a bush on the side of a trailthat has already been searched many times.
They take him back to campand they all have a nice, happy reunion.
High fives all around.
Search Successful.
Fast forward over a year.
A user by the name of MissKat1 posts
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that she isthe grandmother of the three year old boy.
She goes on to explain thatabout three weeks after that harrowing
camping trip, the boys at her houseand out of the blue says,
“I don't like the other Kappy,”which was his name for her, Grandma Kathy.
So she says,What are you talking about, buddy?
I'm the only Grandma Kappy.
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He says, “Don'tyou remember when I was lost in the woods?
Well, the other Grandma Kappy grabbed meand took me to a creepy place.
She's really a robot.” Now, thinking
that her grandsonjust has a wild imagination, she asks him,
“What was creepy about it.”“It was a cave with spiders.
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And there were purses and guns.
I was too scared.
So I didn't touch anything.
But when she climbed a ladder,the light made her look like a robot.
There were other robots, too,but they didn't move.
Kathy asks himwhy he thought she looked like a robot,
and he tells his grandmathat she had your same
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hair, your feet and even your face.
And the lights sparkled on herand she looked like a robot.
So Kathy is thinkingmaybe he means a hologram.
So she asks him what a robot is,
and he says it's made out of metaland has a remote control.
Okay, so he knows what a robot looks like.
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Her curiosity is at a 10.
She asks him for more informationand he tells her,
“She made me lie downto look at my tummy.” “Then
she tried to get me a poopon a sticky paper, but I couldn't go.
She told me that I am from outer spaceand they put me in my mommy's tummy.
Then she took me back to the riverand said to wait under the bush
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until someone found me.”Grandma Karthy calls his dad
wondering what in the hell he'sbeen letting this kid watch on TV.
And the dad says, “Yeah,he told me that story, too.
Crazy kids.” Now, normally she would have chalked
this up to the incredible imaginationof a three year old.
That is, if she hadn'talready had her own experience.
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Just one year earlier, she was campingin the same area with a friend.
She's in a tent,and the friend is in a camper.
Other than the factthat it's completely silent,
they have a nice night by the fire.
In fact, neither of them has seenany wildlife so far.
No birds, no squirrels, no bugs,
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except for the two crowsperched in the trees,
praying for food scraps to hit the groundbefore they call it a night.
They hear something in the trees,so they shine their flashlights
in their direction and are metwith several pairs of red eyes shine.
They just assume it's a herd of deer
heading for the riverand they just go to their separate beds.
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In the morning,Kathy is a little surprised when she wakes
up, face first in the dirt
outside of her tent and sleeping bag.
Now, as she puts it, “I'ma grandma in my fifties.
I don't sleep in the dirt.”She notices a pain on the back of her
neck and reachesaround to discover two puncture wounds.
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Plus, she's violently ill.
She puts the puncturewounds together with the nausea and thinks
it must be a spider bite.
Reasonable conclusion.
Except her friend in the camper
also wakes up with puncturewounds on the back of his neck
and is super sick.
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Interesting coincidence.
Now, all of that might soundas a little too far
off the beaten path for some of you.
But we have another missing person storythat is about as straight as they come.
And that is the story of Carl Landers.
Carl was a 69 year old manwho was on a mission
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to summit the highest peak in every countyin California.
He'd already tackled 57
of the 58, which left Mt.
Shasta in Siskiyou Countyin Northern California.
And Carl may have been 69,but to summit those other 57 peaks
means he's already tackled Mount Whitney
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at 14,505 feet, White Mountain
Peak at 14,252 feet
and northern Palisade at 14,248 feet,
all higher than Shasta.
So he's not a novice hiker.
Despite his wife having a badfeeling in her gut about this whole trip,
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on May 24th, 1999,Carl sets out to conquer
the last of the giants, Mount Shasta,with a couple of his friends,
Barry Gilmore, age 60, and Milton Gaines,
age 64 - also experienced hikers.
So when Carl, Berry and Miltonstart off that morning from Bunny Flat
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Trailhead heading up the AvalancheGulch route to the top,
everybody thought they're all good to go.
The Avalanche Gulchroute is a very straightforward trail
up to the top and is the route of choicefor most people.
Now, I'm not going to say that it's easy.
It's a total distance up and back of 11miles.
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You starting at almost 7000 feetand ascending another 7300 feet.
But as mountain summits go,
this one is relatively easy and safe.
Should be a routine trip.
By the evening of May 24th,the three men had made it
all the waypast Horse Camp to 50/50 Flats.
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They stopped there because they wantedto spend the night adjusting
to the altitude before heading up to Helenlake, another campsite
just 650 feet away from 50/50 Flats,
but a gain in altitude of 1,200 feet.
Now, Carl, while definitely in good shape
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and definitely experienced, was sufferingfrom a little bit of altitude sickness.
Altitude sicknessis when you get into areas of higher
elevation where the oxygen is thinner,making it harder to get enough oxygen
and can cause a myriad of flulike symptoms.
The next morning, May 25th,everyone wakes up and Carl says,
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“I'm still not feeling all that great,
which means I'mprobably going to move slow today.
So I'm going to go ahead.
And if it's okay with you
guys, I'm going to go aheadand get an early start up to Helen Lake.
And you guys can just catch up to me
there.”So he leaves 50/50 Flats for Helen Lake.
Just so you know, Helen Lake not a lake,
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just a flat areathat's a good spot to pitch a tent.
Now for a spring/summerhike like these guys are doing,
the temperatures are usually around60 degrees
and the weather on that particularday is fantastic.
Very little wind,full sunshine, just ideal.
Carl is wearing twoor three layers of clothes,
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including a rust colored jacket, ski pantsand hiking shoes with crampons,
which are just spikesthat you can clip to your boots
to give you better traction on the snowand the ice.
He also has a backpackwith food and water.
And at that elevation,
if there isn't snow on the ground,there's very little vegetation.
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There's a few trees here and there.
But for the most part, if you just lookup, you'll see your next destination.
The trail may meander a little,but it's basically just grass and rocks.
Now, to be clear,
if you are going from the 50/50 Flatsto Helen Lake,
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there is no way to get off trail.
It is just a straightshot up inside a gully.
If you fall, you will only slide back downto 50/50 Flats.
There are no crevices,there's no woods or underbrush.
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The trail does not split off.
There are no caves.
There is nowhere to get lost
between Camp 50/50 and Helen Lake.
Nowhere.
But regardless ofwhat is or isn't possible,
when Milton and Barryget up to Helen Lake, Carl's not there.
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He leaves the 50/50 Flatsand just vanishes.
Not a trace,no clothes, no backpacks, nothing.
And at this time of year,there are always people at Helen Lake.
That's the place that most peoplestart to camp for the night
before the final trek to the summit.
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But no one saw him there.
By that afternoon, a search is launchedheaded up by Grizz Adams,
a guy with 400 searchand rescue operations under his belt.
The search includes both the U.S.
Forest Service and the National Guard,with both the National Guard
and the state police contributinghelicopters, at least some of which
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using infrared sensors or FLIR,
scanning completely open territory.
And infrared picks up body temperature,so if anything warmer
than the ground temperature is there,the infrared sensors would pick it up.
But you guessed it.
Nothing.
The next morning, 50 people,including Rangers,
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volunteers and scent dogs, startsearching the trails,
including a few climbers that arehelicoptered to the top of the mountain
to search, starting at the topand working their way down,
just in case Carlkept going beyond Helen Lake.
But any experiencedhiker knows to stick to the plan.
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And the plan was hike to Helen Lake.
So Carl should have stopped right there.
That was the rendezvous point.
That was the plan.
Meet there beforestarting the next stage of the climb.
But no one finds a thing.
No snowy footprints heading off the trailand the scent dogs pick up nothing.
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Grizz Adams, the head of the searchand rescue operation,
actually spoke with David Politis,who most of you know
as the author of the “Missing 411” bookseries.
And Grizz told David, “In
35 years,I have never had this happen to me.
We were all over that mountain.
He was not on the mountain.”
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Now, as far as what happened to Carl,Grizz had this to say,
“That's the million dollar question.”“He either went up it or in it,
but he is not on it.” In addition,
a spokeswoman for the SiskiyouSheriff's Department released this.
we've just looked everywhere we can look
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and we just don't knowwhere else to look.” It's not like he's
out in the middle of the deep woodsin the middle of nowhere.
In fact,
there were a bunch of other people aroundHelen Lake
at the time of his disappearance.
And no one sees him.
I'm starting to think harderabout those Lemuria.
So what happened to him?
Well, there are a couple of options.
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Suicide by mountain? Not likely.
He had a great family lifeand was tackling the very last piece
he needed to complete his bucket list goalof summiting all 58 county peaks.
Maybe some kind of altitude induceddementia or other health related event?
Well, things like thatare not uncommon for a man of his age.
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But even if something did happen to him,where would he go?
If he collapses on the trail,his friends would find him.
And if he lapses intosome kind of fugue state where he has
no idea where he is and wanders off,the infrared sensors would find him.
Animal attack. Nope.
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There are no large mammalsthat live at this high of an altitude.
Foul play?
Maybe, but it's determined thatneither of his friends have any motive
for killing him.
Not to mention the factthat you would have to be pretty stupid
to kill someone at that spot.
Considering there is absolutely no placeto hide a body.
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In the 25 years that have passed,
not a trace of Carl has ever been found.
This is one of those total headscratcher cases
where being taken by the Lemuriansis about the only option left.
Now, if there is a whole civilizationof people living within the mountain,
they are going to have to get outof the mountain on occasion.
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Right?
And how would they do that?
Well,we already know their vehicle of choice
is the cigar shaped airship.
Sounds funny, but there have been UFOsightings around Mt.
Shasta for over 100 years.
Of the top 300 UFO hotspots in the world,
Mount Shasta is ranked 13th.
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Some people have seen metallic objectshovering in the air,
while others reportlight formations around the mountain peak.
So way higher than a normal drone can fly,and they just disappear.
One of the more widely known recentsightings is the flying jellyfish of 2008.
The Mount Shasta Herald reportedthat the residents of the McCloud area
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saw what looks like a giant glowingjellyfish hovering over the mountain.
Made no noise, but it looked like
it had a fire burning inside of it.
We don't have any pictures of this one,but last year someone
captured this footage while looking outthe window of an airplane.
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And sometimes people see flying
objects flyright into the side of the mountain
like it's flying right through solid rock.
I told you those Lemurianswere getting bored inside that mountain.
Mt. Shasta is one of the few placesin the world that can boast
a very unique weather phenomenacalled lenticular cloud formation.
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And when you see these pictures, it's easy
to see why stories aboundabout UFO activity on the mountain.
But the reality of UFOs around
the mountain is actually very welldocumented.
The National UFO Reporting Center, or
NUFORC, alone has fifty-eight
reports dating back to just 2004,
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that just have the name Shasta in them.
So it doesn't include anythingthat someone might have entered with
just their city name,like Azalea, Black Butte or Weed. man,
that's heavy
One great sighting was reported to NUFORC
as happening in either 1964 or 1965.
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A bunch of fifthand sixth graders are outside for a school
assembly inwhat is now the city of Shasta Lake.
The weather's nice. Skies clear.
There are about 45 people gathered,including students, secretaries
and teachers.
When a silver disk shapedcraft flies over the school grounds
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with no noise, very low,just above the tall pine trees.
It glides over them and appears to landin some trees behind the school.
The teachers get everyone inside
into their classroomswhere the kids just sit in silence.
And they're told that the sheriffhas been called.
The witness then sees a manwalk by their classroom window,
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which is on the oppositeside of the school
from where the main school doorsand the principal's office are located.
So presumablythe place that the sheriff would go.
The man is not wearinga law enforcement uniform,
but instead is wearing a black suitand carrying a briefcase.
Men in black and walking in the direction
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of where the craft would have landed.
At 2 p.m.
the bell ringsand everyone is dismissed for the day.
The witness and their friend immediatelyhead out to where they think this thing
must have landed and meet some friendswho are already on their way back.
The friendstell them that the ship is gone, but
the witness and their friendgo to check it out anyway.
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They find a roughly 40 foot diameter
ring with burn marks along the outside.
Later, they even bring their mom tothe area who witnesses the ring as well.
And even years later, the witness saysthey returned to that spot
to find nothing growing there.
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Now, I find itinteresting that most modern reports
of alien encounters describe aliensthat are about four feet tall.
But Lemurians are rumoredto be 10 to 15 feet tall.
In fact, in 1930, a humanoid
skeleton over, eight feettall, was discovered 12 feet
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deep under a lava flow in Shasta County,just south of Mount Shasta.
And we still have the newspaper accountsto prove it.
And Native Americanfolklore says a race of giants
existed on the earthfor thousands of years.
But were suddenly wiped outin a great flood.
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Why is it always a flood?
Were they Lemurian?
Or are they the ancestors of the giantswe know today?
It's December 1999 in Northern California.
So it's no real surprisewhen one day, it starts snowing.
But it snows enough throughout the morningthat young Tyler's school
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in the town of Mount Shastaeventually throws in the towel and closes
for the day, shipping Tylerand all the rest of the kids home
before the snow gets toodeep to do so safely.
And I guarantee, from experience,
that every single kid in that schoolis praying that the snow keeps coming,
so they don't have to go to schoolthe next day either.
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When Tyler gets home, surprise,his dad has the rest of the day off too,
and says, “Hey, Tyler,I want to go sledding?” Well, of course!
that's a stupid questionto ask a young boy with a free afternoon
and a snowstorm.
So his dad has done a lot of cross-countryskiing around
different areas of the mountainand knew the area really well.
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So he picks out a great spot for sledding
and they grab an inflatablesaucer and a runner sled.
Runner sledsare those old fashioned wooden sleds
with metal runners on the bottom,and the runners in the front
turn,just enough to let you steer a little bit.
So if you're heading right for something,you can at least avoid a collision.
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And so they get to this hilland it's still snowing pretty good,
which is probably why nobody else was outthere.
Tyler and his dad have a great time
climbing up, sledding down, trading sleds.
Just pure little boy joy.
And somewhere around half an hour,45 minutes
in, Tyler and his dadare both at the top of the hill.
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Tyler sees his dadstaring down into the tree
line that's at the bottom of the hilland to the left.
At the bottom, to the right, it's clear,and that's where the cars would park.
So he sees his dad staring into the forestand he doesn't know it,
but his dad sees a dark shape
moving just inside the tree line.
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Tyler turns his head and triesto see what his dad is seeing,
but he doesn't see anything for a second.
But then he does.
Whatever this thing is,that his dad has been watching,
it steps out of the tree lineand into the snowy clearing
to the left of the sled run about 200-250feet away.
It was on two feet with broad shoulders
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standing perfectly still.
Tyler and his dad are both staring at it,squinting at it,
trying to figure out what exactlythat they're looking at.
Tyler's paging through his catalog
of known animals in his brainand coming up empty.
So he looks at his dadand waits for him to say something like,
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“There's a bear!”
or “Look, there's a mountain lion!”
Just then, this thing drops to all fours
and starts running at them, coming upthe slope from the base of the hill,
looking like it's coming right towardsthem.
Tyler's dad is still staring at it,
trying to figure out what it is.
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And finally, Tyler asks him, “Dad,
what is that?”And right at that moment, his dad turns,
picks Tyler up, puts him on the runnersled, gets on the back of the sled
and takes off down the hill,not even bothering to grab the other sled.
Sounds crazy, but they didn't.
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They really didn't have anywhere elseto go.
The back of the hillslopes are really deep and at the bottom
there's a fence.
Outrunning this -whatever it is - is their only option.
So they are tearing down the slope.
And this thing is coming up from the leftat an intercept angle
towards them,while they are angling to the right,
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towards the clearingwhere the car is parked.
Tyler's dad, with Tylerbetween his legs, is steering the sled
with his feet, riding the linebetween turning right as sharply
as he can, and turning too sharply,which will flip the sled over.
Obviously, suboptimal.
Tyler doesn'teven want to know what is happening.
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So he covers his face with his hands,until the need to know
just becomes too much.
And he peeks between his fingers.
He sees this thing coming righttowards them from the left
with large black shouldersstill running on all fours.
And it's close enoughnow that he can see that
what looked beforelike front legs are actually arms.
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It has shiny black hair, a big brow ridge
on its flat face, a thin, wide mouthwith long black hair around it,
big round eyes, and it's gallopingright at them.
His dad yells, “Get out of here,”as they pass it,
barelybeating it to the interception point.
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They were so close that Tyler thoughtthis thing was going to reach out
and just knock them both off the sled.
But it didn't.
They continue down to the bottomof the hill where Tyler's dad
pushes him off the sled, standsup, picks Tyler up by the arm,
and they both start running,leaving the sled behind.
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More snow has fallen in the tracksthat they had made coming in.
And Tyler is running as fast as he can.
But the snow is thick and deep.
His dad says “Don't look back!”
Tyler keeps running, but he can't help it.
He looks back and he sees the thing,
and it looks like it's stopped,and it's heading back up the hill.
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He keeps runningand after a few seconds looks again.
Now it's at the top of the hill,pacing back
and forth, standing upright again.
As they're both running towards the car,
they see coming up the small slope,
some men that look likethey're in the military, including guns.
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His dad says, “Hello,” as one of the men
steps forward ahead of the others,and starts talking to his dad.
They both turn and start walking awayfrom Tyler, so he can't quite hear them.
But it sounds like his dad is telling himwhat just happened.
The two men chat for a minute or so,when the military man
gesturesfor the other soldiers to move out.
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But they're going in the wrong direction.
Tyler is just about to say somethingwhen his dad turns
and looks at him,telling Tyler with his look, “Be quiet.
Don't say anything.” Tyler shuts his mouthand the men continue on their way.
Then the lead military guy starts pattingdown his dad, looking for something.
At first, Tylerthinks he's looking for weapons.
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But the more he thinks about it,he realizes
the guy's not looking for weapons.
He's looking for a camera or anything else
that could blow up this cover up.
He finds nothing, lets him go.
Tyler and his dad walk back to their carand go home.
It isn't until sometime laterthat Tyler's dad
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tells him that he deliberately sentthose soldiers in the wrong direction.
He said that when they were coming downthe slope on the sled,
he looked in the face of this animal.
This Sasquatch running on all foursand saw in its face
this overwhelming fear
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and that this thingjust wanted to be left alone.
And we would certainly be remissif we didn't also include
Sasquatch’s close cousin, Batsquatch.
The stories of Batsquatch beginwith the eruption of Mount
St Helens in Washington in the 1980s.
But one day in 2009, Paul Dale Roberts,
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from Haunted and Paranormal InvestigationsInternational, gets a phone call.
The caller says that he and his friendwere hiking around Mount Shasta
and out of one of the crevicesin the side of the mountain,
flies out this big creature,
as tall as a man, as stocky as Hulk Hogan,
and leathery wingswith a span of about 50 feet.
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This thing was so freaky
that even with a camera in his hands,he was too freaked out to get a picture.
Now, I hear you yelling out there. What?
No picture?
Well, once you come face to face witha Batsquatch, let me know how you react.
At first,he thought maybe it was a pterodactyl.
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But after looking up a pictureof a pterodactyl, he says that's not it.
The head is more like that of a bator a fox.
It was flying or gliding really fast
and finally flew into a clump of treesand vanished.
And for all you Dogman fans out there
who probably thinkI've forgotten about you, I have not.
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This little talecomes from Redditor 420Blazet.
He and his wife are drivingsouth on Highway 97,
which is on the north side of MountShasta, around midnight.
And they're driving through a heavilywooded area with no streetlights.
So all they have is the car's headlights.
They round the cornerand see something fast and low
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to the ground, dart across the streetabout 50 to 60 yards ahead of them.
But that brief moment is enough
for himto see the glowing animal eyes and a body
that is the size and shape of a big dog.
The body wasn't 100% clearbecause the car's
headlights hadn't quite reachedthat section of the road yet.
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But that does mean that the glowing eyesare not glowing from eye shine.
They're just glowing.
He asks his wife, “Didyou see that?” And his wife says, “Yup.”
So when they get to the exact pointin the road where the animal had crossed,
he slows the car and they both look to seeif there's anything there.
Is there a Dogman? Nope.Something weirder.
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There's a man dressed in army fatigueswalking down the road.
He doesn't even look at them.
He just keeps walking.
It's pitch black, and he doesn't haveany type of light with him.
He is only lit up by their headlights.
They both get full body chills
and are properly creeped out.
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Now, when we're talking about these areasthat just seem to be focal points
of high strangeness, we expect to hearstories of UFOs and encrypted sightings.
But Shasta also has its share of talesthat are just plain weird.
In 2011, a man from Los Angeles
is hiking the Pacific CrestTrail near Mount Shasta
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when he hears the beautifulsinging of a woman's voice.
Now he follows the voice and becomeslost in the woods,
only to be abductedand taken to a dark chamber in a cave.
Once there he is, stripped nakedand is approached by a tall woman
with striking beautiful blue eyesand bizarre, strange clothing.
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She gives him a gift,some secret information.
And this guy was gone for weeks.
When he finally does reappear, he believes
he is the 10th incarnation of Vishnu,a messianic Hindu god.
He changes his name to Lord Kalki,and never divulges
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the secret informationgiven to him by the mysterious woman.
Another
strange event is in an article writtenby Andrew Thomas and published
in the AustralianFlying Saucer Review in 1962.
A very curious eventhappened around the mountain in 1931.
A forestfire was raging around the mountain,
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threatening to consume everything in sightwhen out of nowhere
a foggy mist appears and advancesin the direction of the fire line.
And when the mist meets the fire,the fire stops in its tracks
and is contained while it either burnsitself out or is able to be extinguished.
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Once the fire is out, locals could seea clear line of demarcation
where the mist had protectedthe forest around the mountain.
Let's not forget that Mount Shastais also the location of events
that are just weirdly terrifying.
Brant Swanson,
writing for Mysterious Universe, reportsa tale sent to him personally.
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Back in the 1980s, a man decidesto take advantage of the beautiful sunny
day and goes for a walkon one of the hiking trails in the area.
And as he's strolling along the picture,perfect weather
turns gray and sour on a dime.
And he's just staying in there wonderingwhat the hell is going on with the weather
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when he sees a thick, soupy mist
coming from the forest in front of him,spreading through the brush on the ground.
He's just standing theretrying to process this misty mass
that looks like it came out of a 1950shorror film.
Two deer come bolting from the trees,
with one of the deer flying right past him
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just a few feet away,totally ignoring him.
The other one stops in the same clearinghe's in and just kind of freezes.
Then this mist, which is just kind of
been hugging the ground, speeds up.
When it reaches the deer's feet,
the deer goes into convulsionsand falls to the ground.
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That'swhen he sees this bigger wall of fog
coming from the treesthat heads straight for deer.
The fog is about as thick and denseas fog can get,
more of like a blob like mass.
And it stops right at the fallen deer.
After a few minutes, the fog dissipates,
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the mist rolls away and the sky is brightsunny again.
But no deer.
It's gone.
No body, blood, bones, nothing.
It didn't get up and run awaybecause he would have seen that.
It never left that fog.
It was just erased.
And now he wonderswhat would have happened
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if there were no deer and it was just himthat was in that clearing.
And now that we all feel like
we need a spiritual shower,
let's talk about the huge influxof spiritualism to the area.
I mean, all the regular religionsare there,
the Catholics,the Lutherans, the Baptists, etc..
The Buddhists actually built an abbeythere.
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Hindus are there and the occasional cult.
Allegedly.
But probably the mosttalked about religion,
at least when you're talking about MountShasta, is the I Am Activity movement.
In the 1930s, Guy Ballard,a mining engineer, was exploring Mt.
Shasta,looking for a branch of the Great White
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Brotherhood known as “TheBrotherhood of Mt.
Shasta”, which is a new agespiritual belief system,
when he stops for a break and takes a cupto get some fresh spring water.
As he does, an electrifyingjolt runs through his body.
He turns around to see a man standingthere just looking like another hiker.
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But Guy has the feelingthat this is no ordinary man.
The man tells him, give me your cupand I will give you something to drink
that is more refreshing than spring water.
Guy hands over his cup and the water
is instantly changed into a white,milky liquid.
Guy drinks the white liquid and feels
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an instant surge of energy.
And the man tells him that what he justdrank
comes directly from the Universal Supply.
It is life.
Omnipresent life.
The man goes on to reveal himself as being
the one and only Count of Saint Germain,which is a name
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some of you might recognize becausehe's pretty famous in the paranormal world
as the immortal man who never agesbeyond 45 years old.
Guy and his wife Edna, go onto take the teachings of Saint Germain
and use them to found the I Am Activitymovement and the Saint Germain Foundation.
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It wasn't a small movement either.
At its peak,it had over a million followers.
But then Guy diesand some followers leave.
And then Edna is suedfor copyright infringement
and some more followers leave.
But the I Am Activitymovement is still around,
and if you're so inclined,you can go to see the I Am Reading Room
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in Mount Shasta City.
Interesting note.
That copyright infringement case?
They were sued by the familyof Frederick Oliver.
Remember the guy who channeled Phylosthe Atlantean?
Well, apparently the Ballad’s liftedsome of their material straight
from Frederick Oliver's book, “ADweller on Two Planets.” But get this.
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The case was thrown out,because in the foreword of the book
written by Frederick himself,he says that he is not the author,
merely the secretary chosen by theLemurians to write down their message.
And even the copyright of the booklists him
as the proprietor, not as the author.
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So if he didn't write it,
then the Ballard’sdidn't infringe on anything.
Wow. One thing that can't be deniedis that there are
a whole lot of people out therewho feel a spiritual connection
to this mountain, which is believed to beone of the seven sacred peaks on earth.
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A full 25 to 50% of the touristswho visit the mountain and the city of Mt.
Shasta come looking forsome kind of spiritual experience,
also known as Spiritual Tourists.
And there are plenty of companiesin the area to help, offering
guided vision quests, shamanic awakenings,
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vortex visits, and crystal collections.
The area is home to more than 100different spiritual sects
or religionsand dozens of New Age businesses.
Many of those tourists never leave,
instead opting to heedthe call of the mountain.
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Lewis Al Binger, a retiree who starteda donation based tea shop in Mt.
Shasta, says,
I Lewis Elbinger,a retiree who started a donation-based
teashop in Mount Shastasays, “I was called.
The mountain called me.” “When “WhenI'm walking through the forest,
I feel like I'm walking througha cathedral.” Few places on this earth
speak to everyone,natural and supernatural alike, like Mt.
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Shasta.
And if you ever do decide to govisit this breath taking place
of energy and mystery, make sure you heedthe warning of the local natives.
Do not go above the tree line.
That area is reserved for the Sky People.
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Holy Moses!
That's a lot of weird stuff.
As usual, there's morethat I didn't even get to cover.
But the good news is that I'm alreadycurating the overflow into a Part Two. So
if you want to see that episode as well,it'll be right here when it comes out.
The meantime, YouTube will be pickingsomething out just for you.
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Be careful out there,
and I will see youhere again on The InBetween.
Thanks for tuning into The InBetween Podcast.
Enjoy the full visual experiencewith me over on YouTube.
Just search for @TheInBetweentales.
I'm Carol Ann,and until next time, be careful
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out there.
Strange mysteries, unexplained phenomena.
And the shadows in between.
This is The InBetween Official Podcastwith your host,
Carol Ann!
Mount Shasta is a veritable
Chinese buffet of supernatural goodness.
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And I guarantee you that in an hour,you're going to want more.
Welcome to The InBetween.
I'm CarolAnn and today's video is a gigantic
smorgasbord of history,lore and high strangeness.
Hope you brought your appetitefor weirdness
as we open upthe paranormal firehose of Mount
Shasta.
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Mount Shasta,
located in Northern California,about an hour south of Oregon,
is 14,179 feet above sea level,
within the 2.2 million acre,Shasta Trinity National Forest.
It is the second highest peak and thesouthernmost volcano in the Cascade Range.
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And it appears as though no one has a clueas to when it last erupted.
The United StatesGeological Survey says 3,200 years ago,
the Global Volcanism Program says870 years ago, while sailors of the French
La Pérouse expeditionsay they saw go off just 200 years ago.
But regardless of its past, in 2018,the USGS updated its list
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of the most hazardous volcanoesin the country.
And Mount Shasta ranked fifth
out of the list's18 “very high threat” volcanoes.
I don't really like those odds.
Now, in order to put the whole of MountShasta craziness into context,
I first need to start with the tale of twofabled cities, about a million years
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ago, Atlantis in the Atlantic Oceanand Lemuria or Mu in the Pacific.
And according to legend,between these two,
they pretty much ownedthe rest of the world.
They are both very technologicallyadvanced, more advanced than we are.
And even though Atlantishad the advantage over Lemuria,
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Atlanteans were a benevolent societythat lived in peace
with the Europeans for millennia.
However, about 25,000 years ago,the Atlanteans got a little too big
for their britches and decided worlddomination sounded like a good idea.
Lemurians said, “I don't think so,”and the two begin a war, to end all wars.
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By the time they're done,their advanced weaponry has done
so much damage to the surface of the earththat the tectonic plates shift
causing their magnetic poles to shiftso suddenly that
a massive global flood wiped outboth civilizations.
Millions of people die on both sides.
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A few surviving Atlanteansevacuate to Agartha,
an underground cityinside the Hollow Earth.
Upcoming episode anyone?
The last of the Lemurians fled to Mt.
Shasta and establisheda city called Telos, which legend claims
now houses 1.5 million
highly evolved spiritual beings.
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Now, the Native American tribesin the area will tell you that
Shasta was createdby the Old Man of the Sky, who somewhere
between seven and 10,000 years ago wantedto come down to earth from the heavens.
But he didn't have a way to climb down.
So he made a hole in the skyand shoved dirt and ice through the hole
into a pile until it was tall enoughfor him to climb down onto the earth.
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Then he creates life on Earth,but goes a little nuts about it,
and makes too many grizzly bears,which scare the crap out of him,
so he hollows out the mountainto create a teepee to stay in.
They say you could still see the smoke
rising from the topuntil the white man came.
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Native American tribes are documentedas living around that area, going back
7 to 10000 years. But it's likely
the Lemurians are homelessand looking for new digs before that.
So maybe,and I'm just throwing this out here...
Maybe the Lemurians builtthe mountain themselves
as a new gated communitycondo complex for themselves.
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I mean, if they had the technologyto destroy the known world,
maybe they had the technologyto build a mountain.
And one of the reasons I say this isbecause of the location of the mountain.
Most mountains are part of a range.
I mean, Shatsa’s part of a range,
the Cascade Range,but it's still just sitting there
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in the middle of relatively flat country,like somebody just plopped it there.
I mean, if the Lemurians didn't make it,then the Old Man of the Sky sure did.
Fast forward to the summer of 1883.
Frederick S.
Oliver, a teenager at the time, is helpinghis family stake out their mining claim.
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And as he's writing down notesand coordinates of the claims
location,his hand starts shaking and writing notes
and his notebook against Frederick's will.
He understandably starts to panicand runs home
with his hand,trying to write the whole time.
Frederick's mother doesn't panic.
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She just gives him a piece of paperto write on.
By the time this episode is over,shortly thereafter,
Frederickand his mother are shocked to realize that
what he has written down is the beginningof some weird dissertation.
Over the next few years, Frederickwould occasionally have his hand
commandeered by this outside forcenamed Phylos, the Thibetan,
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who would dictate a few more pages hereand there.
Phylos is a spirit entitywho has lived a previous life
as an Atlantean who obviously finds itpretty important to get a hold of somebody
who can write down informationabout the Atlantean civilization.
Although I would think that if they'd been
that technologically advanced,they would have thought to invent paper.
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Or maybe Phylos is just really bored.
Anyway, this goes on until 1895,
when Phylos has apparently saidall he needs to say.
Frederick Oliver diesfour years later at the age of 33.
We will come back to Frederickin a moment.
skip ahead a couple of years to 1904,
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when a British prospector, J.C.
Brown, comes to Mount Shastaon behalf of the Lord
Cowdrey mining company to look for gold.
One day, while exploring the mountain,Brown stumbles across a rockfall.
It just looks kind of odd, likemaybe there's something behind it.
So he starts to clear it,and it doesn't take long
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before he realizes that behindthat pile of rocks
is a tunnelleading down into the darkness.
And seeing as though he's thereto look for gold,
a tunnel into the mountain is awesome.
So he starts down the tunnel.
Now, the fact that there's a tunnelthere, it's not that unusual.
There are lava tubes all over the mountainthat go on for miles.
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The longest being Pluto's Cave,
which is hikeable for over a milebefore you get to the unsafe part.
Who knows how long it really is.
So J.C.
starts hiking for miles and milesinto the darkness.
By his estimate,he hikes 11 miles before reaching the end.
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And what's at the endseems way more valuable than gold.
He finds a network of rooms and chambers,almost like an abandoned ancient city.
He finds ornate statuesthat seem to glow in the dark,
crystals, tablets,weapons and shields made of gold
and items that to himseem like machines of some kind.
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But the most shocking find iswhat looks to be a burial chamber
that holds at least 27 mummies,
ranging from 6 to 10 feet
tall in ornately decorated robes.
Now, obviously,he's very excited about this find.
It is an archeological Disneyland.
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But not being an archeologist, he'snot quite sure what to do.
So he covers the tunnel entranceand pretends
he didn't find anythinguntil he can figure out his next move.
One year later, so 1905,
Frederick Oliver's mom publishesthe book of writings
her son had channeled over those few yearscalled “A Dweller on Two Planets”,
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which turns out to be a whole accounting
of the Atlantean civilizationand technology.
He even describessome pretty modern concepts
like quantum mechanics, anti-gravity,
zero point energy and mass transit.
And the mass transit vehicle of choice?
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The cigar shaped airship.
Now, apparently the Lemurians are justa little smarter than the Atlanteans
because they don't need to channel anyoneto get their history recorded.
They manage to write down their historyand leave it in the capable
hands of the Hindus in India,who then share the information
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with a guy named James Churchward,who then publishes a book in 1926
detailing the history of Lemuria,which he renames Mu.
So back to our guy, J.C. Brown.
While he's toiling away at regular life,
he's still trying to figure outexactly what it is he found in that cave.
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He becomes obsessed with Churchward’sbook about the lost continent of Mu,
and most certainlywould have heard of the Lemurians,
as well as FrederickOliver's book on Atlantis.
And after all of his research,he decides that the cave must belong
to the Lemurian civilizationthat is residing in the mountain.
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That's it!
Time to go back.
So after 30 years, J.C.
heads back to the Mt.
Shasta area,and he is so steeped in all of the legend
and the lore of the Lemurians
that he actually startsgiving daily lectures on the topic.
Through these lectures,he manages to put together a search
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team of 80 people, including
researchers, scientists and explorers,
to go back to the mountain with himto find the tunnel.
The expedition is scheduledfor June 19th, 1934.
It's a really big deal.
The newspapers write about itand everybody in town is excited.
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The whole team of 80 adventurers
assembled, ready to find this lost city.
But J.C.
is nowhere to be found.
In fact, no one sees hidenor hair of him ever again.
So what happened to him?
Was he taken out by people who didn'twant this information getting out?
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Maybe it was the government.
The government? Keep secrets?
Or did he earn himself a one way ticket
into the city of Telosby the Lemurians themselves?
Or maybe he was just a con man.
Maybe.
But he never tooka single dime of anyone's money.
Not a very good con man.
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His strange disappearanceobviously leads people to question
the authenticity of Brown's entire storyof the subterranean city of riches
with giant mummiesthat he supposedly found.
But that didn't stop people from looking.
Numerous modern explorershave claimed to have found Brown's tunnel,
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mummies and all, although its location
and even its existence remains a mystery.
Now, I would be remissif I didn't tell you
that somebody has claimedto have figured out the mystery of J.C.
Brown.
In 2017,a researcher named Steven Sindoni,
who coincidentally is a believerin the legends of Lemuria, well,
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he tracked downa man named John Benjamin Bodie,
a mining engineerwho retired in Mount Shasta.
Bodie worked for the Lord CowdreyMining Company.
So did J.C. Brown.
And both his in-laws lived rightacross the street from where J.C.
Brown had given his daily lectureson Lemuria and the lost City of Telos.
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Obviously, the inference is that J.C.
Brown was really John Benjamin Bodie.
Interesting. But why?
Why go through all the troubleof setting up this gigantic ruse?
Or maybe it's just a coincidence.
If they were working for the same company,maybe they were both assigned
to the same area.
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For whatever reason, J.C.
Brown is gone, missing.
But he's certainly not the only one.
Mt. Shasta is one of the most notoriousspots in the country
for mysterious disappearances.
And here are a couple of the craziest.
On September 2nd, 2011, a family of fourare camping on Mount Shasta
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at Camp 4 of Fowlers Campgroundin the Shasta Trinity National Forest.
Around 6 p.m.,the three and a half year old toddler
and his sister are playingwith some other kids by the river.
The other kids come back,but the boy doesn't.
The family immediately launches a search,but after about 15 minutes
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of not finding him,they don't mess around and call 911.
Within 45 minutesof the arrival of the police,
100 people are already searching.
So from about 7:30 p.m.
to midnight,they are just combing everywhere.
Then, just before midnight, the dogsfind the boy
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hiding in a bush on the side of a trailthat has already been searched many times.
They take him back to campand they all have a nice, happy reunion.
High fives all around.
Search Successful.
Fast forward over a year.
A user by the name of MissKat1 posts
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that she isthe grandmother of the three year old boy.
She goes on to explain thatabout three weeks after that harrowing
camping trip, the boys at her houseand out of the blue says,
“I don't like the other Kappy,”which was his name for her, Grandma Kathy.
So she says,What are you talking about, buddy?
I'm the only Grandma Kappy.
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He says, “Don'tyou remember when I was lost in the woods?
Well, the other Grandma Kappy grabbed meand took me to a creepy place.
She's really a robot.” Now, thinking
that her grandsonjust has a wild imagination, she asks him,
“What was creepy about it.”“It was a cave with spiders.
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And there were purses and guns.
I was too scared.
So I didn't touch anything.
But when she climbed a ladder,the light made her look like a robot.
There were other robots, too,but they didn't move.
Kathy asks himwhy he thought she looked like a robot,
and he tells his grandmathat she had your same
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hair, your feet and even your face.
And the lights sparkled on herand she looked like a robot.
So Kathy is thinkingmaybe he means a hologram.
So she asks him what a robot is,
and he says it's made out of metaland has a remote control.
Okay, so he knows what a robot looks like.
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Her curiosity is at a 10.
She asks him for more informationand he tells her,
“She made me lie downto look at my tummy.” “Then
she tried to get me a poopon a sticky paper, but I couldn't go.
She told me that I am from outer spaceand they put me in my mommy's tummy.
Then she took me back to the riverand said to wait under the bush
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until someone found me.”Grandma Karthy calls his dad
wondering what in the hell he'sbeen letting this kid watch on TV.
And the dad says, “Yeah,he told me that story, too.
Crazy kids.” Now, normally she would have chalked
this up to the incredible imaginationof a three year old.
That is, if she hadn'talready had her own experience.
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Just one year earlier, she was campingin the same area with a friend.
She's in a tent,and the friend is in a camper.
Other than the factthat it's completely silent,
they have a nice night by the fire.
In fact, neither of them has seenany wildlife so far.
No birds, no squirrels, no bugs,
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except for the two crowsperched in the trees,
praying for food scraps to hit the groundbefore they call it a night.
They hear something in the trees,so they shine their flashlights
in their direction and are metwith several pairs of red eyes shine.
They just assume it's a herd of deer
heading for the riverand they just go to their separate beds.
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In the morning,Kathy is a little surprised when she wakes
up, face first in the dirt
outside of her tent and sleeping bag.
Now, as she puts it, “I'ma grandma in my fifties.
I don't sleep in the dirt.”She notices a pain on the back of her
neck and reachesaround to discover two puncture wounds.
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Plus, she's violently ill.
She puts the puncturewounds together with the nausea and thinks
it must be a spider bite.
Reasonable conclusion.
Except her friend in the camper
also wakes up with puncturewounds on the back of his neck
and is super sick.
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Interesting coincidence.
Now, all of that might soundas a little too far
off the beaten path for some of you.
But we have another missing person storythat is about as straight as they come.
And that is the story of Carl Landers.
Carl was a 69 year old manwho was on a mission
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to summit the highest peak in every countyin California.
He'd already tackled 57
of the 58, which left Mt.
Shasta in Siskiyou Countyin Northern California.
And Carl may have been 69,but to summit those other 57 peaks
means he's already tackled Mount Whitney
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at 14,505 feet, White Mountain
Peak at 14,252 feet
and northern Palisade at 14,248 feet,
all higher than Shasta.
So he's not a novice hiker.
Despite his wife having a badfeeling in her gut about this whole trip,
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on May 24th, 1999,Carl sets out to conquer
the last of the giants, Mount Shasta,with a couple of his friends,
Barry Gilmore, age 60, and Milton Gaines,
age 64 - also experienced hikers.
So when Carl, Berry and Miltonstart off that morning from Bunny Flat
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Trailhead heading up the AvalancheGulch route to the top,
everybody thought they're all good to go.
The Avalanche Gulchroute is a very straightforward trail
up to the top and is the route of choicefor most people.
Now, I'm not going to say that it's easy.
It's a total distance up and back of 11miles.
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You starting at almost 7000 feetand ascending another 7300 feet.
But as mountain summits go,
this one is relatively easy and safe.
Should be a routine trip.
By the evening of May 24th,the three men had made it
all the waypast Horse Camp to 50/50 Flats.
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They stopped there because they wantedto spend the night adjusting
to the altitude before heading up to Helenlake, another campsite
just 650 feet away from 50/50 Flats,
but a gain in altitude of 1,200 feet.
Now, Carl, while definitely in good shape
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and definitely experienced, was sufferingfrom a little bit of altitude sickness.
Altitude sicknessis when you get into areas of higher
elevation where the oxygen is thinner,making it harder to get enough oxygen
and can cause a myriad of flulike symptoms.
The next morning, May 25th,everyone wakes up and Carl says,
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“I'm still not feeling all that great,
which means I'mprobably going to move slow today.
So I'm going to go ahead.
And if it's okay with you
guys, I'm going to go aheadand get an early start up to Helen Lake.
And you guys can just catch up to me
there.”So he leaves 50/50 Flats for Helen Lake.
Just so you know, Helen Lake not a lake,
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just a flat areathat's a good spot to pitch a tent.
Now for a spring/summerhike like these guys are doing,
the temperatures are usually around60 degrees
and the weather on that particularday is fantastic.
Very little wind,full sunshine, just ideal.
Carl is wearing twoor three layers of clothes,
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including a rust colored jacket, ski pantsand hiking shoes with crampons,
which are just spikesthat you can clip to your boots
to give you better traction on the snowand the ice.
He also has a backpackwith food and water.
And at that elevation,
if there isn't snow on the ground,there's very little vegetation.
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There's a few trees here and there.
But for the most part, if you just lookup, you'll see your next destination.
The trail may meander a little,but it's basically just grass and rocks.
Now, to be clear,
if you are going from the 50/50 Flatsto Helen Lake,
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there is no way to get off trail.
It is just a straightshot up inside a gully.
If you fall, you will only slide back downto 50/50 Flats.
There are no crevices,there's no woods or underbrush.
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The trail does not split off.
There are no caves.
There is nowhere to get lost
between Camp 50/50 and Helen Lake.
Nowhere.
But regardless ofwhat is or isn't possible,
when Milton and Barryget up to Helen Lake, Carl's not there.
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He leaves the 50/50 Flatsand just vanishes.
Not a trace,no clothes, no backpacks, nothing.
And at this time of year,there are always people at Helen Lake.
That's the place that most peoplestart to camp for the night
before the final trek to the summit.
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But no one saw him there.
By that afternoon, a search is launchedheaded up by Grizz Adams,
a guy with 400 searchand rescue operations under his belt.
The search includes both the U.S.
Forest Service and the National Guard,with both the National Guard
and the state police contributinghelicopters, at least some of which
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using infrared sensors or FLIR,
scanning completely open territory.
And infrared picks up body temperature,so if anything warmer
than the ground temperature is there,the infrared sensors would pick it up.
But you guessed it.
Nothing.
The next morning, 50 people,including Rangers,
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volunteers and scent dogs, startsearching the trails,
including a few climbers that arehelicoptered to the top of the mountain
to search, starting at the topand working their way down,
just in case Carlkept going beyond Helen Lake.
But any experiencedhiker knows to stick to the plan.
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And the plan was hike to Helen Lake.
So Carl should have stopped right there.
That was the rendezvous point.
That was the plan.
Meet there beforestarting the next stage of the climb.
But no one finds a thing.
No snowy footprints heading off the trailand the scent dogs pick up nothing.
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Grizz Adams, the head of the searchand rescue operation,
actually spoke with David Politis,who most of you know
as the author of the “Missing 411” bookseries.
And Grizz told David, “In
35 years,I have never had this happen to me.
We were all over that mountain.
He was not on the mountain.”
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Now, as far as what happened to Carl,Grizz had this to say,
“That's the million dollar question.”“He either went up it or in it,
but he is not on it.” In addition,
a spokeswoman for the SiskiyouSheriff's Department released this.
we've just looked everywhere we can look
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and we just don't knowwhere else to look.” It's not like he's
out in the middle of the deep woodsin the middle of nowhere.
In fact,
there were a bunch of other people aroundHelen Lake
at the time of his disappearance.
And no one sees him.
I'm starting to think harderabout those Lemuria.
So what happened to him?
Well, there are a couple of options.
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Suicide by mountain? Not likely.
He had a great family lifeand was tackling the very last piece
he needed to complete his bucket list goalof summiting all 58 county peaks.
Maybe some kind of altitude induceddementia or other health related event?
Well, things like thatare not uncommon for a man of his age.
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But even if something did happen to him,where would he go?
If he collapses on the trail,his friends would find him.
And if he lapses intosome kind of fugue state where he has
no idea where he is and wanders off,the infrared sensors would find him.
Animal attack. Nope.
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There are no large mammalsthat live at this high of an altitude.
Foul play?
Maybe, but it's determined thatneither of his friends have any motive
for killing him.
Not to mention the factthat you would have to be pretty stupid
to kill someone at that spot.
Considering there is absolutely no placeto hide a body.
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In the 25 years that have passed,
not a trace of Carl has ever been found.
This is one of those total headscratcher cases
where being taken by the Lemuriansis about the only option left.
Now, if there is a whole civilizationof people living within the mountain,
they are going to have to get outof the mountain on occasion.
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Right?
And how would they do that?
Well,we already know their vehicle of choice
is the cigar shaped airship.
Sounds funny, but there have been UFOsightings around Mt.
Shasta for over 100 years.
Of the top 300 UFO hotspots in the world,
Mount Shasta is ranked 13th.
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Some people have seen metallic objectshovering in the air,
while others reportlight formations around the mountain peak.
So way higher than a normal drone can fly,and they just disappear.
One of the more widely known recentsightings is the flying jellyfish of 2008.
The Mount Shasta Herald reportedthat the residents of the McCloud area
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saw what looks like a giant glowingjellyfish hovering over the mountain.
Made no noise, but it looked like
it had a fire burning inside of it.
We don't have any pictures of this one,but last year someone
captured this footage while looking outthe window of an airplane.
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And sometimes people see flying
objects flyright into the side of the mountain
like it's flying right through solid rock.
I told you those Lemurianswere getting bored inside that mountain.
Mt. Shasta is one of the few placesin the world that can boast
a very unique weather phenomenacalled lenticular cloud formation.
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And when you see these pictures, it's easy
to see why stories aboundabout UFO activity on the mountain.
But the reality of UFOs around
the mountain is actually very welldocumented.
The National UFO Reporting Center, or
NUFORC, alone has fifty-eight
reports dating back to just 2004,
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that just have the name Shasta in them.
So it doesn't include anythingthat someone might have entered with
just their city name,like Azalea, Black Butte or Weed. man,
that's heavy
One great sighting was reported to NUFORC
as happening in either 1964 or 1965.
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A bunch of fifthand sixth graders are outside for a school
assembly inwhat is now the city of Shasta Lake.
The weather's nice. Skies clear.
There are about 45 people gathered,including students, secretaries
and teachers.
When a silver disk shapedcraft flies over the school grounds
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with no noise, very low,just above the tall pine trees.
It glides over them and appears to landin some trees behind the school.
The teachers get everyone inside
into their classroomswhere the kids just sit in silence.
And they're told that the sheriffhas been called.
The witness then sees a manwalk by their classroom window,
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which is on the oppositeside of the school
from where the main school doorsand the principal's office are located.
So presumablythe place that the sheriff would go.
The man is not wearinga law enforcement uniform,
but instead is wearing a black suitand carrying a briefcase.
Men in black and walking in the direction
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of where the craft would have landed.
At 2 p.m.
the bell ringsand everyone is dismissed for the day.
The witness and their friend immediatelyhead out to where they think this thing
must have landed and meet some friendswho are already on their way back.
The friendstell them that the ship is gone, but
the witness and their friendgo to check it out anyway.
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They find a roughly 40 foot diameter
ring with burn marks along the outside.
Later, they even bring their mom tothe area who witnesses the ring as well.
And even years later, the witness saysthey returned to that spot
to find nothing growing there.
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Now, I find itinteresting that most modern reports
of alien encounters describe aliensthat are about four feet tall.
But Lemurians are rumoredto be 10 to 15 feet tall.
In fact, in 1930, a humanoid
skeleton over, eight feettall, was discovered 12 feet
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deep under a lava flow in Shasta County,just south of Mount Shasta.
And we still have the newspaper accountsto prove it.
And Native Americanfolklore says a race of giants
existed on the earthfor thousands of years.
But were suddenly wiped outin a great flood.
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Why is it always a flood?
Were they Lemurian?
Or are they the ancestors of the giantswe know today?
It's December 1999 in Northern California.
So it's no real surprisewhen one day, it starts snowing.
But it snows enough throughout the morningthat young Tyler's school
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in the town of Mount Shastaeventually throws in the towel and closes
for the day, shipping Tylerand all the rest of the kids home
before the snow gets toodeep to do so safely.
And I guarantee, from experience,
that every single kid in that schoolis praying that the snow keeps coming,
so they don't have to go to schoolthe next day either.
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When Tyler gets home, surprise,his dad has the rest of the day off too,
and says, “Hey, Tyler,I want to go sledding?” Well, of course!
that's a stupid questionto ask a young boy with a free afternoon
and a snowstorm.
So his dad has done a lot of cross-countryskiing around
different areas of the mountainand knew the area really well.
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So he picks out a great spot for sledding
and they grab an inflatablesaucer and a runner sled.
Runner sledsare those old fashioned wooden sleds
with metal runners on the bottom,and the runners in the front
turn,just enough to let you steer a little bit.
So if you're heading right for something,you can at least avoid a collision.
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And so they get to this hilland it's still snowing pretty good,
which is probably why nobody else was outthere.
Tyler and his dad have a great time
climbing up, sledding down, trading sleds.
Just pure little boy joy.
And somewhere around half an hour,45 minutes
in, Tyler and his dadare both at the top of the hill.
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Tyler sees his dadstaring down into the tree
line that's at the bottom of the hilland to the left.
At the bottom, to the right, it's clear,and that's where the cars would park.
So he sees his dad staring into the forestand he doesn't know it,
but his dad sees a dark shape
moving just inside the tree line.
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Tyler turns his head and triesto see what his dad is seeing,
but he doesn't see anything for a second.
But then he does.
Whatever this thing is,that his dad has been watching,
it steps out of the tree lineand into the snowy clearing
to the left of the sled run about 200-250feet away.
It was on two feet with broad shoulders
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standing perfectly still.
Tyler and his dad are both staring at it,squinting at it,
trying to figure out what exactlythat they're looking at.
Tyler's paging through his catalog
of known animals in his brainand coming up empty.
So he looks at his dadand waits for him to say something like,
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“There's a bear!”
or “Look, there's a mountain lion!”
Just then, this thing drops to all fours
and starts running at them, coming upthe slope from the base of the hill,
looking like it's coming right towardsthem.
Tyler's dad is still staring at it,
trying to figure out what it is.
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And finally, Tyler asks him, “Dad,
what is that?”And right at that moment, his dad turns,
picks Tyler up, puts him on the runnersled, gets on the back of the sled
and takes off down the hill,not even bothering to grab the other sled.
Sounds crazy, but they didn't.
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They really didn't have anywhere elseto go.
The back of the hillslopes are really deep and at the bottom
there's a fence.
Outrunning this -whatever it is - is their only option.
So they are tearing down the slope.
And this thing is coming up from the leftat an intercept angle
towards them,while they are angling to the right,
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towards the clearingwhere the car is parked.
Tyler's dad, with Tylerbetween his legs, is steering the sled
with his feet, riding the linebetween turning right as sharply
as he can, and turning too sharply,which will flip the sled over.
Obviously, suboptimal.
Tyler doesn'teven want to know what is happening.
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So he covers his face with his hands,until the need to know
just becomes too much.
And he peeks between his fingers.
He sees this thing coming righttowards them from the left
with large black shouldersstill running on all fours.
And it's close enoughnow that he can see that
what looked beforelike front legs are actually arms.
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It has shiny black hair, a big brow ridge
on its flat face, a thin, wide mouthwith long black hair around it,
big round eyes, and it's gallopingright at them.
His dad yells, “Get out of here,”as they pass it,
barelybeating it to the interception point.
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They were so close that Tyler thoughtthis thing was going to reach out
and just knock them both off the sled.
But it didn't.
They continue down to the bottomof the hill where Tyler's dad
pushes him off the sled, standsup, picks Tyler up by the arm,
and they both start running,leaving the sled behind.
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More snow has fallen in the tracksthat they had made coming in.
And Tyler is running as fast as he can.
But the snow is thick and deep.
His dad says “Don't look back!”
Tyler keeps running, but he can't help it.
He looks back and he sees the thing,
and it looks like it's stopped,and it's heading back up the hill.
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He keeps runningand after a few seconds looks again.
Now it's at the top of the hill,pacing back
and forth, standing upright again.
As they're both running towards the car,
they see coming up the small slope,
some men that look likethey're in the military, including guns.
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His dad says, “Hello,” as one of the men
steps forward ahead of the others,and starts talking to his dad.
They both turn and start walking awayfrom Tyler, so he can't quite hear them.
But it sounds like his dad is telling himwhat just happened.
The two men chat for a minute or so,when the military man
gesturesfor the other soldiers to move out.
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But they're going in the wrong direction.
Tyler is just about to say somethingwhen his dad turns
and looks at him,telling Tyler with his look, “Be quiet.
Don't say anything.” Tyler shuts his mouthand the men continue on their way.
Then the lead military guy starts pattingdown his dad, looking for something.
At first, Tylerthinks he's looking for weapons.
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But the more he thinks about it,he realizes
the guy's not looking for weapons.
He's looking for a camera or anything else
that could blow up this cover up.
He finds nothing, lets him go.
Tyler and his dad walk back to their carand go home.
It isn't until sometime laterthat Tyler's dad
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tells him that he deliberately sentthose soldiers in the wrong direction.
He said that when they were coming downthe slope on the sled,
he looked in the face of this animal.
This Sasquatch running on all foursand saw in its face
this overwhelming fear
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and that this thingjust wanted to be left alone.
And we would certainly be remissif we didn't also include
Sasquatch’s close cousin, Batsquatch.
The stories of Batsquatch beginwith the eruption of Mount
St Helens in Washington in the 1980s.
But one day in 2009, Paul Dale Roberts,
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from Haunted and Paranormal InvestigationsInternational, gets a phone call.
The caller says that he and his friendwere hiking around Mount Shasta
and out of one of the crevicesin the side of the mountain,
flies out this big creature,
as tall as a man, as stocky as Hulk Hogan,
and leathery wingswith a span of about 50 feet.
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This thing was so freaky
that even with a camera in his hands,he was too freaked out to get a picture.
Now, I hear you yelling out there. What?
No picture?
Well, once you come face to face witha Batsquatch, let me know how you react.
At first,he thought maybe it was a pterodactyl.
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But after looking up a pictureof a pterodactyl, he says that's not it.
The head is more like that of a bator a fox.
It was flying or gliding really fast
and finally flew into a clump of treesand vanished.
And for all you Dogman fans out there
who probably thinkI've forgotten about you, I have not.
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This little talecomes from Redditor 420Blazet.
He and his wife are drivingsouth on Highway 97,
which is on the north side of MountShasta, around midnight.
And they're driving through a heavilywooded area with no streetlights.
So all they have is the car's headlights.
They round the cornerand see something fast and low
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to the ground, dart across the streetabout 50 to 60 yards ahead of them.
But that brief moment is enough
for himto see the glowing animal eyes and a body
that is the size and shape of a big dog.
The body wasn't 100% clearbecause the car's
headlights hadn't quite reachedthat section of the road yet.
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But that does mean that the glowing eyesare not glowing from eye shine.
They're just glowing.
He asks his wife, “Didyou see that?” And his wife says, “Yup.”
So when they get to the exact pointin the road where the animal had crossed,
he slows the car and they both look to seeif there's anything there.
Is there a Dogman? Nope.Something weirder.
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There's a man dressed in army fatigueswalking down the road.
He doesn't even look at them.
He just keeps walking.
It's pitch black, and he doesn't haveany type of light with him.
He is only lit up by their headlights.
They both get full body chills
and are properly creeped out.
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Now, when we're talking about these areasthat just seem to be focal points
of high strangeness, we expect to hearstories of UFOs and encrypted sightings.
But Shasta also has its share of talesthat are just plain weird.
In 2011, a man from Los Angeles
is hiking the Pacific CrestTrail near Mount Shasta
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when he hears the beautifulsinging of a woman's voice.
Now he follows the voice and becomeslost in the woods,
only to be abductedand taken to a dark chamber in a cave.
Once there he is, stripped nakedand is approached by a tall woman
with striking beautiful blue eyesand bizarre, strange clothing.
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She gives him a gift,some secret information.
And this guy was gone for weeks.
When he finally does reappear, he believes
he is the 10th incarnation of Vishnu,a messianic Hindu god.
He changes his name to Lord Kalki,and never divulges
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the secret informationgiven to him by the mysterious woman.
Another
strange event is in an article writtenby Andrew Thomas and published
in the AustralianFlying Saucer Review in 1962.
A very curious eventhappened around the mountain in 1931.
A forestfire was raging around the mountain,
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threatening to consume everything in sightwhen out of nowhere
a foggy mist appears and advancesin the direction of the fire line.
And when the mist meets the fire,the fire stops in its tracks
and is contained while it either burnsitself out or is able to be extinguished.
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Once the fire is out, locals could seea clear line of demarcation
where the mist had protectedthe forest around the mountain.
Let's not forget that Mount Shastais also the location of events
that are just weirdly terrifying.
Brant Swanson,
writing for Mysterious Universe, reportsa tale sent to him personally.
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Back in the 1980s, a man decidesto take advantage of the beautiful sunny
day and goes for a walkon one of the hiking trails in the area.
And as he's strolling along the picture,perfect weather
turns gray and sour on a dime.
And he's just staying in there wonderingwhat the hell is going on with the weather
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when he sees a thick, soupy mist
coming from the forest in front of him,spreading through the brush on the ground.
He's just standing theretrying to process this misty mass
that looks like it came out of a 1950shorror film.
Two deer come bolting from the trees,
with one of the deer flying right past him
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just a few feet away,totally ignoring him.
The other one stops in the same clearinghe's in and just kind of freezes.
Then this mist, which is just kind of
been hugging the ground, speeds up.
When it reaches the deer's feet,
the deer goes into convulsionsand falls to the ground.
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That'swhen he sees this bigger wall of fog
coming from the treesthat heads straight for deer.
The fog is about as thick and denseas fog can get,
more of like a blob like mass.
And it stops right at the fallen deer.
After a few minutes, the fog dissipates,
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the mist rolls away and the sky is brightsunny again.
But no deer.
It's gone.
No body, blood, bones, nothing.
It didn't get up and run awaybecause he would have seen that.
It never left that fog.
It was just erased.
And now he wonderswhat would have happened
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if there were no deer and it was just himthat was in that clearing.
And now that we all feel like
we need a spiritual shower,
let's talk about the huge influxof spiritualism to the area.
I mean, all the regular religionsare there,
the Catholics,the Lutherans, the Baptists, etc..
The Buddhists actually built an abbeythere.
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Hindus are there and the occasional cult.
Allegedly.
But probably the mosttalked about religion,
at least when you're talking about MountShasta, is the I Am Activity movement.
In the 1930s, Guy Ballard,a mining engineer, was exploring Mt.
Shasta,looking for a branch of the Great White
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Brotherhood known as “TheBrotherhood of Mt.
Shasta”, which is a new agespiritual belief system,
when he stops for a break and takes a cupto get some fresh spring water.
As he does, an electrifyingjolt runs through his body.
He turns around to see a man standingthere just looking like another hiker.
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But Guy has the feelingthat this is no ordinary man.
The man tells him, give me your cupand I will give you something to drink
that is more refreshing than spring water.
Guy hands over his cup and the water
is instantly changed into a white,milky liquid.
Guy drinks the white liquid and feels
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an instant surge of energy.
And the man tells him that what he justdrank
comes directly from the Universal Supply.
It is life.
Omnipresent life.
The man goes on to reveal himself as being
the one and only Count of Saint Germain,which is a name
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some of you might recognize becausehe's pretty famous in the paranormal world
as the immortal man who never agesbeyond 45 years old.
Guy and his wife Edna, go onto take the teachings of Saint Germain
and use them to found the I Am Activitymovement and the Saint Germain Foundation.
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It wasn't a small movement either.
At its peak,it had over a million followers.
But then Guy diesand some followers leave.
And then Edna is suedfor copyright infringement
and some more followers leave.
But the I Am Activitymovement is still around,
and if you're so inclined,you can go to see the I Am Reading Room
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in Mount Shasta City.
Interesting note.
That copyright infringement case?
They were sued by the familyof Frederick Oliver.
Remember the guy who channeled Phylosthe Atlantean?
Well, apparently the Ballad’s liftedsome of their material straight
from Frederick Oliver's book, “ADweller on Two Planets.” But get this.
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The case was thrown out,because in the foreword of the book
written by Frederick himself,he says that he is not the author,
merely the secretary chosen by theLemurians to write down their message.
And even the copyright of the booklists him
as the proprietor, not as the author.
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So if he didn't write it,
then the Ballard’sdidn't infringe on anything.
Wow. One thing that can't be deniedis that there are
a whole lot of people out therewho feel a spiritual connection
to this mountain, which is believed to beone of the seven sacred peaks on earth.
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A full 25 to 50% of the touristswho visit the mountain and the city of Mt.
Shasta come looking forsome kind of spiritual experience,
also known as Spiritual Tourists.
And there are plenty of companiesin the area to help, offering
guided vision quests, shamanic awakenings,
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vortex visits, and crystal collections.
The area is home to more than 100different spiritual sects
or religionsand dozens of New Age businesses.
Many of those tourists never leave,
instead opting to heedthe call of the mountain.
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Lewis Al Binger, a retiree who starteda donation based tea shop in Mt.
Shasta, says,
I Lewis Elbinger,a retiree who started a donation-based
teashop in Mount Shastasays, “I was called.
The mountain called me.” “When “WhenI'm walking through the forest,
I feel like I'm walking througha cathedral.” Few places on this earth
speak to everyone,natural and supernatural alike, like Mt.
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Shasta.
And if you ever do decide to govisit this breath taking place
of energy and mystery, make sure you heedthe warning of the local natives.
Do not go above the tree line.
That area is reserved for the Sky People.
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Holy Moses!
That's a lot of weird stuff.
As usual, there's morethat I didn't even get to cover.
But the good news is that I'm alreadycurating the overflow into a Part Two. So
if you want to see that episode as well,it'll be right here when it comes out.
The meantime, YouTube will be pickingsomething out just for you.
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Be careful out there,
and I will see youhere again on The InBetween.
Thanks for tuning into The InBetween Podcast.
Enjoy the full visual experiencewith me over on YouTube.
Just search for @TheInBetweentales.
I'm Carol Ann,and until next time, be careful
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out there.
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