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April 3, 2025 65 mins

In this insightful and heartfelt episode, Matt welcomes campus minister and author Casey Coston to discuss the challenges and beauty of a life spent in ministry. With over two decades of experience—from Ole Miss to the University of Delaware—Casey shares the inspiration behind his book Made Competent, and opens up about the trials of leadership, church decline, bivocational ministry, and maintaining authenticity amidst cultural and institutional shifts.

Whether you’re a ministry leader, a member of a shrinking church, or someone navigating the complexities of calling and burnout, this episode offers wisdom, encouragement, and practical takeaways.

🔑 Key Topics Discussed
  • Why attractional ministry models often fail to engage non-Christians—and what works better

  • The unique challenges of campus ministry and why seminary often doesn’t prepare you for them

  • How churches can better support their ministers through family crises and emotional burnout

  • The spiritual and emotional journey behind Made Competent and the value of long-term journaling

  • Reframing failure in ministry through a lens of faithfulness and identity in Christ

✨ Three Key Takeaways for Declining Churches
  1. Shift from Attractional to Relational Ministry Big events and flashy programs often attract Christians, not seekers. Churches in decline should pivot toward intentional, relationship-based outreach rooted in authenticity and presence, especially when targeting unchurched communities.

  2. Reframe Decline with a Missionary Mindset Decline doesn’t always equal failure. Instead, view your church as a missionary outpost. Embrace bivocational models and the missionary mindset—where fewer resources don't mean lesser impact, but a new context for faithful ministry.

  3. Support Ministers with Tangible Care When pastors are in crisis—whether from personal or church-related issues—the body of Christ must step up. Small gestures like meals, childcare, or handwritten notes remind ministers they are not alone. In declining churches, this pastoral care culture is essential during their search for new ministry opportunities.

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