In this conversation, Simon Matthews and Darren Morton discuss the concept of failure and how to respond to it. They share personal experiences of failure and how they have learned from them. They explore the importance of self-esteem and how it affects our response to failure. They also discuss the idea of perseverance and when it may be necessary to pull the pin and move on. Overall, the conversation highlights the value of failure as a learning opportunity and the need to approach it with a growth mindset.
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