236 🧠 Brain Health Breakthrough: Dr. John E. Lewis on Alzheimer's and Longevity

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>> Dr. John Lewis (00:00):
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Meet Doctor John E. Lewis, the founder
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School of Medicine. With over 30
studies under his belt and more than

(02:26):
180 peer reviewed publications,
Wowza. Doctor Lewis is a true
expert in the world of nutrition and
dietary supplements. In today's episode,
Doctor Lewis is going to teach us about the power
of special polysaccharides. I'm so proud of
myself that I said that properly from
aloe vera and Rice Bran that have

(02:49):
shown incredible life changing effects
and clinical trial trials for conditions
like Alzheimer's, he'll share how
these natural compounds have demonstrated
improvements in cognitive function,
inflammation, and immune health. This is
truly cutting edge research that most
people haven't heard of, myself included. And

(03:11):
I'm excited for you all to learn how these
discoveries could change the.
Way we approach health and healing.
Let's give a warm welcome to Doctor John
Lewis.

Thank you, Wendy. It's great, uh, to be here with you, and
I appreciate the kind introduction, and it's nice to
meet another fellow native Tennessean. So.

I know. That's right. I know.
Love my Tennessee
shout out to all my cousins in Tennessee right
now.

That's right.

So, you know, it's funny, I've always been fascinated with
health and nutrition, and I shared with you, I owned
a, um, practice, a few practices over the
years. Um, and I've always was
fascinated with the supplements, kid you not?
And I was always the guinea pig
before we would even sell it to the patients. I'm like, I'll take it

(04:05):
first.

That's right.

But I do know the importance of them because
I know that our body can't always get everything
that it needs from food, and especially
with being in toxic environments at
times. Um, so I do know the importance of
that. My first question for you is, what
inspired you to go into brain
health?

That's a great question. Excuse me, if
you'll bear with me today, I have a little bit of a
sinus issue, but brain health
obviously affects every segment of
society today, right? I mean, whether you're talking about
young children with, God forbid, autism,
I mean, that's obviously the worst case scenario.
But a lot of kids with ADD, ad

(04:49):
ADHD, then you have older
folks at the end of life with neurodegeneration, whether it's
dementia, Parkinson's, something like that.
That's just horrible. And then you have all of us in
between, and you have all of these people today running around with mood
disorder. It's just crazy how many
people have depression, anxiety, bipolarism,

(05:10):
all these things, and then you've got all these people that have
played sports or been in the military with concussion syndrome.
I mean, it's just mind boggling
the spectrum of brain health
issues that affect
society today, literally from cradle
to grave. It's incredible. And
so the reason I got into brain health, though,

(05:32):
was because of actually meeting, uh, a gentleman by the name of
Doctor Reg McDaniel, a pathologist by
training in the Dallas area, who he
and I met about 20 years ago. And
doctor Reg is just a fascinating man. I mean, talk about
a wonderful, this guy has such a wonderful
heart and spirit. He's 80.

(05:53):
I shouldn't even say his name. Let's say he's eight, late
eighties, um, age, not name. Uh, I
don't, I don't like outing people on their age,
but still goes to his office every
day, still fighting the good fight, still trying
to help people. I mean, bless this man's heart. As my grandmother
used to say, you know, what an amazing
human, uh, this guy is. But he and I met about

(06:16):
20 years ago through a mutual friend at the University of
Miami. And he was talking to me about, you
already mentioned the buzzword polysaccharides from aloe vera. And
his story was just so
fascinating and inspiring to me in terms
of leaving, basically leaving the practice
of pathology, running a pathology unit at a
hospital in Dallas to practicing nutrition.

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I mean, how many times do you
hear, certainly maybe an
internist or a cardiologist, but a pathologist,
like that's a very
hardcore, lab oriented field
in medicine who had no interest
in nutrition. That's the other interesting thing about him
as a physician. He had no interest in nutrition. He

(07:00):
wasn't recognizing its importance. But he
had, back in 19,
85, 86 going on 40 years
ago, he had ten guys with HIV
come to him at that time. They were taking this
aloe Vera product. Now, you know, back in those
days, this is before antiretroviral
medication. So if you had HIV was basically a death

(07:22):
sentence because it would go ahead and progress to
AIDS and then you would die of some secondary
infection. These guys had no viral
load, m and their cd four cells were
normal. Total medical
heresy. Like, there was no medical
explanation why an aloe vera product
could knock out the virus like that and boost

(07:45):
the cd four cell level to normal. So M
doctor Reg Washington initially like, ah, uh, this
is nonsense. This is, you know, you're pulling my leg, whatever.
Like, he kept, you know, shooing them out of his office.
And thankfully for all of us, those guys
did not take no for an answer. And eventually
Doctor Reg said, okay, let me take a look at this. He could

(08:05):
not get any of his physician friends to
have any interest again. Much like him, they didn't have
any interest in nutrition. But guess who did?
Veterinarians. Veterinarian. Um,
yes, exactly. The average
veterinarian compared to the average
physician is far more interested in
nutrition because when you look at

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animals as livestock, those are
commodities. Those are things that you attach
value to for that farmer or that person
raising those animals. So nutrition is very important
in the role of keeping those animals healthy and
ultimately becoming food on the table, I guess.
But, uh, anyway, he was able

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to get his buddies at Texas A and m at the
veterinary school to start working with him
on why these polysaccharides from aloe Vera.
Actually, they didn't even know it was the polysaccharides at that moment. It was
just this, basically, this aloe vera,
uh, product. But they discovered
eventually that the polysaccharides, this

(09:08):
ace mannan, acetylated polymannose
ace, there were several different synonyms for
it.

Hm.

That eventually that was the real bioactive
material. And that's the reason why humans have been
using aloe vera for, you know, thousands of years, since
recorded time. Humans, obviously, a long time ago,
figured out this was an incredible plant that mother Nature
bestows on us for health. So, fast
forward, you know, 20 years. And then when he and I
met, and he's telling me about all of this, and

(09:38):
Wendy, quite frankly, I. Anything that I learned about
saccharides in general, let alone polysaccharides,
was probably a lecture or two in biochemistry.
And all I knew about them at that time was that they were
a source of fuel for ourselves.
On that, I had no clue. Literally no clue. And
so here I am at the university. I'm running my

(09:59):
studies, I'm doing my thing. I'm, um, very much already
into nutrition and supplements and exercise, but I didn't have
a clue until meeting this man. What
polysaccharides, not what they
were, but what they could actually do for us. And
particularly the ones from aloe Vera. And then another lady who
introduced me to her story about rice brand, and I'll tell you about her

(10:19):
later. But, uh, doctor Reg
was working with several people
that had, you know, all sorts of conditions.
Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, cancer, diabetes, heart
disease, I mean, you name it, just a huge list.
And so he was giving a lecture one
day talking about his successes with some of these
different folks. Again, anecdotes,

(10:42):
cases, not results of studies.
A lady happened to hear him in the audience and felt very
inspired. And she and her husband ended
up forming a relationship with doctor Reg. And
they had money that they wanted to devote to research,
and they were looking for a good home for it. And
they felt so inspired by his message that they

(11:02):
said, we would love to help you advance the
research and nutrition on these polysaccharides,
but you have to do it in Alzheimer's disease, because we've
lost four family members to this tragic
disease, and we feel very inspired to
help the science in this area where
if you've had any family members or anybody, you know, in
your circle that has had this

(11:24):
horrific disease, you know, how bad it is.
Um, and so as he and I
were getting to know each other, and again, he didn't have any position
at a university, he calls me up and he says, hey, john, we've got an
opportunity to run this clinical trial on
the polysaccharides, but it has to be done in Alzheimer's
disease. So that's a very, very
long winded anecdote, uh, to tell you that

(11:47):
I didn't have a sort of a personal interest
from a family member dying. I mean, my
grandparents, aunts and uncles and dad, they died of
everything else but Alzheimer's or dementia. I mean, they had
all the other typical things, like different forms of heart
disease, cancer, whatever. But when
I met doctor Reg and got, you know, again,

(12:07):
so inspired by his story, and then we had this
opportunity, thanks to the generosity of this one
family, to do a study in Alzheimer's. I mean,
man, I was on it, like, you know, like that. And so
that was ultimately the thing nearly 20
years ago, that got me into this whole brain health area. And then, of
course, running that study and just, you know,

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seeing for yourself firsthand, uh, the devastation.
And it's not just the person, right? It's the primary
caregiver, too. The primary
caregiver, actually, of, ah, people that
caregive for Alzheimer's patients have the
worst health outcomes of any other type of
caregiver.

Interesting. Yeah, it's frustrating.
Um, you can appreciate this name,
ma'am. All my mama bassy
from Tennessee. Um, poor
thing, God rest her soul. Um,
bless her little heart. But, yeah, she had.

She had.

I know we're like. Those are like the same
Tennessee terms, right? But poor mama
Vessi, like, she. She lived until she was
98, I believe. 98,
which is great. But the last ten years of her
life, she had Alzheimer's.

Oh, boy.

And so she didn't know anybody for the last
decade of her life. And,
uh, so, yeah, it is. It's horrible to see.
And same thing, like, to see your family, see the
other family members go through it, and. And I've
had some other family members that have had some memory loss.
And I think about those things. I mean, especially now I'm

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in my fifties, I think about, I can. I want to do
whatever I can to take care of those vehicle that
carries the soul, my soul, through this lifetime. Right?

That's right.

But brain health is one of those things. It's not like I
can go to the gym and work out my brain,
right? You know, and I do my best through food and
nutrition, but I, uh. Again, I do
believe in supplements that can help with
stuff like this. And it is because of cutting
edge things like this that can really help with

(14:09):
that. And, I mean, and my gosh, if it can help
alzheimer's, then God only knows what else it can
help with, too. Evan.

Well, the thing is, wendy, these polysaccharides
from aloe vera and rice bran are utilized by
every single cell in the body. And let me, uh,
go down this path just a little bit so your listener, you, and your
listeners will have a better appreciation for what I'm about to
tell you. And that is, we obviously,
oxygen is our first nutrient, right? I mean, we can't go

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very long without breathing. We're dead from suffocation.
But after oxygen,
we need vitamins, we need minerals, we need these
polysaccharides, fatty acids, amino acids. We need a whole
host of different things for ourselves to function
properly. Now, one thing I, uh, want everybody to understand
is that, unfortunately, as you

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know, I'm sure you had the same experience growing up that most people
do is maybe in the case with your grandmother having
Alzheimer's. I know in my case, I grew up thinking I had a
genetic predisposition to heart disease, m because
so many of my elders had died of
either heart attack, stroke, or even in my
grandfather's case, he had both. So I grew up with this
idea. Oh, my gosh, like, I have this genetic thing

(15:21):
about heart disease. But, uh, as I got older and,
you know, became educated about these things and learned more
about how this vehicle, as you said,
works, we're not born with bad
genes. We are born adopting bad
behaviors from the people around us who
influence us. And so I don't know about you,
but I bet, as a fellow Tennessean,

(15:44):
I bet you grew up in the same type of family I did. We didn't eat
for health. We ate for taste.

Oh, heck, yeah. Chicken fried steak.

Exactly. Nobody cared about eating for health in
my family. I didn't have any health coach
or any nutritionist or exercise scientist.
I didn't have anything like that in my family. We just ate
because that's what we wanted to eat, and that was what
tasted good. My dad thought there were three requirements
for any given meal. A glass of milk,

(16:12):
some piece of bread, and some kind of meat.
Uh, you could give him any other sort of
vegetables, grains, beans,
fruits, whatever. But if he didn't have those three
things as the component of his meal, especially
dinner. Man, he. He didn't think that was a meal.
So that was the kind of family I grew up in.

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But I'm saying all that to say that
everything that we do, especially when
we bend our elbow and open our mouth and
stick something in it, those are the
behaviors that determine, ultimately where
we're going to be on the spectrum of health.
Especially. I'm in my fifties, too,
especially as we go through the lifespan and

(16:55):
once we hit middle age and beyond. Man, those
behaviors that you did as a child, teen,
early twenties, thirties, and now you're getting into your middle
aged years, that's really where you can look back
on it and say, oh, wow, I really screwed up. However,
the body's very resilient. So
there's a principle called the adaptation

(17:16):
principle. It's mostly geared, um, toward
exercise, but it works for nutrition, too. And that says
if you feed or if you do certain things over and
over again, the body will adapt to that. It's very
resilient. So you don't have to feel like, oh, well, I was an
alcoholic when I was a college student, and I smoked all this pot and
I did all these other things, and now I'm m doomed. No, you can

(17:36):
actually repair that damage if you start
today with, you know, protecting yourself and making
changes. But don't, uh, think that you're
genetically predisposed to neurodegeneration
or cancer or heart disease. You can do lots of
things for yourself, for your health, to
prevent that stuff. So, again, I think it's very important

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and where polysaccharides fit into all of this.
And again, I'm sorry for being so long winded about my.

Oh, no, it's great. I'm learning so much. This is awesome.
And, yeah, but you know what? Before you continue, what? Um. And I know
maybe this is where you were going, but what are
polysaccharides?

That's exactly.

That's what you're going to.

That's where I'm going. So these
polysaccharides are. Look at the. Look at the two
roots of that word. Polysaccharide.
Poly means many. Saccharide means
sugar. Uh, you don't live in
the United States anymore, but, uh, you are native american.
What have we heard for the last, at least half
century, when you hear the word sugar as an american,

(18:35):
what do you immediately think? Bad.

Like, that's like, it's bad.

Bad?

Yes. There's no other equals bad, right?

Your mind doesn't even allow you to think, oh, wait a
minute, there are hundreds of sugars in mother
nature. Are they all bad? So let's
break this down for a little bit. You have three
basic types of sugars. You have the
monosaccharide, that's the simplest sugar. That's basically
one molecule of sugar. So that's something like high
fructose corn syrup. Okay, I think we can

(19:05):
all agree if you're taking high fructose corn syrup every
day, you're spiking your glucose, you're spiking your
insulin, you're creating all of these
metabolic effects that are going to be bad for
you. Probably not in that long of a time,
but certainly over a few years and decades.
Diabetes, cancer, heart disease. I mean, it's just going to
be. Forget it. That's going to be your fate.

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The next sugar in complexity is a
disaccharide, two molecules, something
like sucrose, white table sugar.
Again, if you're eating sucrose every day, day
after day, that's probably not the best thing for you.

Mhm.

And then finally you have the third most
complex types of sugars,
polysaccharides. Wendy. These things
are hundred, literally hundreds of glucose units
attached together by these
complex and sophisticated glycosidic
bonds. And what that means is that they
are so complex, you cannot

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even draw them on a piece of paper. They're
like 5d models, basically. They are
so complex, look at, you
cannot even draw them on a piece of paper.
And so these things that come from aloe vera and rice
Bran that my colleagues and I have studied for now, the last almost
20 years, we have shown time and time
again how beneficial they are to human health.

(20:26):
And I'll go into that research a little bit more. But basically,
the point of all of this is to say that, number
one, if you just blanket, if you just make
the blanket statement that all sugar is bad for
you, right? Number one, it's not true.
And number two, it's coming from a place of ignorance. So
nobody can leave our conversation today and

(20:46):
now say that all sugar is bad for you. It depends on the
type and the source of the sugar, and that's a
very important distinction and to be able to put
it in proper context. And so again, these
complex sugars are actually
very beneficial for us. And for those
folks who are caught up in the, you know, this

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keto paleo carnivore wave about shoveling
all of this meat and protein in your system,
folks, you still, even if that's your preferred
dietary strategy, philosophy, belief,
behavior, whatever. You can still benefit
greatly from a few hundred milligrams
to maybe a couple of grams per day of these

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polysaccharides from aloe vera and rice branhorn, and that's
not going to disrupt your dietary
philosophy whatsoever. In fact, I have yet to
see one study published
showing that red meat or some other kind of
animal tissue has the same
immune enhancing effects. And we'll talk about this a little
bit more as these polysaccharides

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do. There's not one study, even just in
our group from our work at the University of
Miami, not even counting all the rest of the work
that's been done around the world on these polysaccharides, but just
from our laboratory alone, there's
not. I mean, I can, and I'll share this information
with you guys in just a moment, but we've published so

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many exciting effects of how these polysaccharides
work, and I haven't seen one study of one clinical
trial of eating red meat or chicken or dairy
or eggs or anything else that will
show the same effects on our immune system's
functioning like these polysaccharides do.
So, uh, go ahead and keep shoveling all that meat
down your throat. You know, that's your

(22:31):
thing. But if you're ignoring the potential
for these polysaccharides to help you on so
many different levels, well, you're just missing out.
You're point blank. You're missing out on an opportunity to help
boost your health.

So these polysaccharides, they come,
I'm, um, guessing then, from the aloe
plant and from
rice.

Yes, correct. So,
interestingly, when the average
person hears aloe vera, what does he or she
think?

I think put it on a sunburn.

Right.

I was like, I think about lotion.

Right? Exactly. It's something topical, right? You think?

Yes, it's true. Yes.

Something topical, you think of, oh, I've got a sunburn. I've got a
little cut, a wound, whatever. Let me put some aloe vera gel on
that area, and. And it will help to heal
it. Have you ever considered why aloe
vera heals?

No.

It's the polysaccharides in that gel.
The gel is 98 and a half, 99%
water. That water does nothing for you. In
terms of healing benefit, we obviously need to be
hydrated and drink our water every day, but that's. You
don't get your water from drinking aloe vera gel. Uh, do you know
anybody who drinks or eats aloe vera gel?

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I don't know.

One person.
I mean, after all this conversation, I feel like going and find an
aloe plant and just chewing on it.

Here in Miami, we have aloe vera growing in our backyard. But
I'm not out there every day snipping leaves
and, uh, you know, sucking the gel down. I mean, that, to me, that's
a waste of time. There's no reason for that. Yep.
So the gel is 98 and a half, 99%
water. Every time I give this, you know,
I'm interviewed or I give a lecture or whatever, almost
invariably at least one person in the audience says,

(24:21):
oh, this guy's talking about aloe vera. I'll just start, you know,
drinking bobs of aloe vera gel. No, doesn't
work that way. The polysaccharide content
and any volume of that gel is so diluted
by all of that water, you cannot possibly
get enough polysaccharide material or content or
volume to have a therapeutic
benefit. So you really need to first

(24:44):
of all, strip all of that water out. And
then, oh, by the way, the gel is not just polysaccharide.
It. I mean, really, aloe vera truly is one of
Mother Nature's gifts to humanity. It contains
amino acids, fatty acids, vitamins, minerals,
elements, cofactors, metabolites. I mean, the list goes
on and on. This truly is a plant of healing.

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And there's no reason, I mean, it's, it's not a
misunderstanding to me why humans have been using it for so long,
because obviously humans thousands of years ago
figured out, wow, that little cactus looking thing,
the gel inside of that thing will help you heal,
um, you know, for whatever reason. And so
you concentrate that powder into, again, a

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few hundred milligrams, maybe a gram or two, depending on
your, your health condition or whatever you're dealing with.
Mhm. And now that's where you get that material
into them. Taking it orally is so much more
effective than, you know, rubbing it on your skin
when you have a sunburn. And I'm not saying stop doing
that. It's a fine application. It's just a

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limited application.

Right.

But yes, aloe vera, I, uh, would put up
against maybe anything else
that Mother Nature provides for us in terms of its
incredible, amazing healing,
health promoting benefits. It's just an amazing
plan. But you have to, you have to get the
polysaccharides out of it in the proper
way. You know, you have to extract them out, forget all that

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water, and then again concentrate them into a dose
where you can really gain the therapeutic benefit,
especially if you have some sort of a health
condition.

And then I'm. Oh, go ahead.

No, I'm sorry. I was just going to say, but my family and
I, we use them preventatively. I mean, I've been on this
formula for a decade. I've had my mother on
it for 1213 years. My wife started
taking it over five years ago when she was pregnant. Our daughter
turned six months. When she turned six months
old, and we started introducing solid food to her.
I started her on the product. She's now four.

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So I say all that to say that, you know, number one,
I'd be a hypocrite if I was selling something that I didn't
take myself and give to my own family. But number
two, my goodness, prevention is just as
important as treatment. Why in the world would you want to allow
yourself to get cancer or
neurodegeneration or heart disease when you can use

(27:03):
a tool in your toolbox to help you prevent that stuff in
the first place?

I always say it's better to prevent
than to repair, or it's better to be
proactive than to be reactive.
And I'll have to say, I know that aloe works. I'm
excited to actually try your supplement. Can you ship some
to Portugal, please?

Definitely.

Absolutely. But I actually. When
I had black mold toxicity and
Lyme disease all at the same time, it was just a
blast, and I was going through perimenopause. I
mean, I was just amazing.

Amazing.

I know. God. Um. But aloe was
one of the things that was prescribed from a
doctor, that I saw his integrative medicine, and
I was taking aloe during that whole time
to help detoxify my body of the black mold
and then of the Lyme disease. And, I
mean, needless to say, I'm completely better. But

(27:58):
I know that the aloe did something. I don't even
remember where I got it from. It doesn't matter because I'm getting yours now.
But, um. But besides. And then I'm
excited to learn about the rice bran
and the rice.

Yes. Well, so the reason why that
helped you so much is, among other mechanisms
of action, the polysaccharides are
very anti infectious, meaning
that they can combat and help you counteract
virus, bacteria, fungus,
basically any kind of pathogen. We know this to
be true. We've actually published some of that in our own research,

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but that's been widely determined by other labs.
But rice bran is a very interesting material
as well. So, unfortunately, about
70% to 80%. This is what I've read. The statistics
are, I'm assuming this to be true, 70%
to 80% of the rice sold in the world is white
rice. So rice has basically

(28:54):
three major components to it. You have the
outer husk or the hull. Hm. That would be
like eating a, you know, a piece of hay or something like you can't.
You can't even let alone
digest it. So the husk gets thrown off,
um, you know, taken off first. Then the
next layer is the rice brand. And so again, most of

(29:14):
the world prefers to eat white rice. The white is
that big endosperm in the center.
That's basically just digestible starch.
But the rice bran is either thrown away
or, how about this for irony? Fed to livestock,
animals. So actually, the animals are eating the
more beneficial nutritious of rice
than most humans are. But the rice

(29:36):
bran is just such an incredibly nutrient. It's
a nutritional powerhouse, again, like aloe vera.
Uh, not only does it have these polysaccharides, amino
acids, fatty acids, vitamins, minerals, elements, all these
are other amazing things. But this particular rice
bran polysaccharide that
my colleagues and I have studied, again, in several different clinical
trials, combined with some of the other research that's

(29:59):
been done primarily in Asia, there's been some other work in the US
as well. But again, time and time
has shown all these consistent effects,
primarily related to immune function. But
one of the things I think it's important to point out at this moment
is that a lot of times, uh, most people, when
they hear about the immune system, they think of it just like

(30:19):
I mentioned a moment ago, as your first line of defense against
infection. But that's really only
one primary role of our immune system. The other very
important primary role, among others,
is that if you think of the analogy of a symphony
orchestra, you have the conductor up in the front, and
he's. Or she's waving
hands and, okay, strings, do this.

(30:42):
Bass, do the bass, do whatever. I'm not a
musician. I know nothing about. About it. But
the immune system is the
parallel to the conductor,
and the immune system is talking to
all of our other major organ systems, and it's
basically helping to keep everything else in

(31:03):
balance. So think about that for a moment.
Balance, homeostasis is the
key to our existence. Every day we have to be in
homeostasis, or we're always trying to get
back to it based on stress and
exposure and all this other stuff.
But if the immune system is not
functioning properly, you cannot

(31:24):
possibly expect all of your other organ systems
to be doing the same, because, again, you're basically
out of balance. So that's a very important role
that people need to understand what the immune system does, and, of course,
that's very tied to chronic inflammation
and how inflammation gets dysregulated.
But again, if you look at the summary of all of the research

(31:45):
that we've published just from our lab, forget
everything else from around the world, we show time
and time again all of these incredible enhancements to immune
system functioning. We show
reduction in chronic inflammation. We
show the ability of, uh, these polysaccharides
to boost adult stem cell production. Think
about that for a second. Again, we showed the ability to

(32:08):
lower infections. I mean, just literally on and
on. Natural killer cell
cytotoxicity increase, which is our
natural killer cells are our first line of defense against
virus and transforming cells that are
dying and potentially could clump together and then
create something that we call cancer down the road. So they're
just amazing m incredible benefits

(32:29):
that essentially what these polysaccharides are
is that they are signaling mechanisms for the
immune system. So, again, when you
think about the immune system's role in everything that we
do, every single moment of our lives, and
being able to help regulate all those different components
of the immune system and keeping all of that

(32:50):
action, um, in balance, it's just
so incredibly important to us.

Being healthy or keeping with the music
theme, keeping our bodies in
harmony.

Exactly.
Great way to say it. Exactly.

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I don't know if you had any studies on this?
But how quickly do people start
to see results after they start taking

(34:32):
them? Mhm.

So I have unsigned, unscientifically
lumped people into three categories at this point. You
have a first group is what I refer to as
super responders. These are people literally
within a couple of days, maybe even a couple of up to a couple
of weeks, boom, they'll start sleeping better,
they'll even poop better. They'll
more focus, more energy, you know, not even stuff

(34:56):
necessarily related to cognition, but just
all these sort of heightened awareness. And
again, those people respond very quickly. I had a guy tell
me who had a brain injury, actually, he's now
feeling more focused. His girlfriend said she was
sleeping better, having more vivid dreams, and that all happened
within two or three days for both of them. So
that's the super sponder regroup, probably

(35:18):
2020, 5% of people, the majority
of people, 50% to 60%.
They'll take 30, maybe even up to 60
days. They'll have the same kinds of effects, but it'll
just take a bit longer. And then you have the last group,
sort of the, uh, delayed responders, if you will. That's
probably another 20% or so. They, they may take 90

(35:38):
days or even longer. You know,
everyone's unique, biochemically, genetically,
from your exposures, from, you know, all different
things. And so it just really,
there's no great answer for, you know, any
individual. But, um, again, unscientifically,
that's how I've categorized people, basically in those
three groups.

That's pretty fast, though. I mean, and you know
what? There are, there are some supplements I have taken,
again, since I was like the guinea pig at the practices all the
time. But there were some supplements I'd take and I'd be
like, eh, uh, you know, and there's some of them
literally within hours, I
would take something and I would feel either
healthier or like my brain was functioning

(36:22):
better or whatever the case was.
Yeah.

And by the way, I should mention in our formula, I'm sorry to
interrupt you, but.

Oh, no, it's okay.

There is no caffeine, so I don't want people to think,
oh, he's just, he's putting some caffeine in his
formula. And that's the reason why people are. No,
no, there's no, there's no
chocolate, there's no any type of xanthine,
nothing caffeine related. So this is
not stimulating like drinking a cup of
coffee or having a cup of tea or something.

It's nothing has yeah, it would be interesting
to see, like, even you were starting out the interview talking about
mental health issues and things that people, you know,
we struggle with, uh, depression, anxiety, and
I had all of that at the same time, I was going through the lime, you
know, and the black mold. That was a blast.
But, you know, even if I didn't have that,

(37:12):
if I had, you know, depression or anxiety or panic
attacks, it would be interesting to see how
that would help with that. And because obviously, it's
your, I mean, your brain. Uh, obviously, we need
our brains, and they're so incredibly
powerful. Sometimes I need mine more than others. I'm like,
come on. And I wake up. But,

(37:32):
I mean, we need to feed
our brains good nutrition.
We kind of forget about it. We're always so worried about just
feeding our tummies, you know, but
we're trying to look good, but it's like, feed your
brain good quality nutrition.

Well, isn't it fascinating how the brain is kind of,
even though it is, obviously it is
what organ defines us? But yet so
many people think about the heart, the
liver, the lung, um, kidney,
the pancreas, the gut, you
know, even the muscles, the bones. You think about all these
other organs, but yet you don't think about

(38:13):
how. I mean, you mentioned earlier about not exercising your
brain. Like, you're putting your, you're taking your brain and you're,
you know, putting it on cycle or a treadmill or something.
But I. Yeah, it's incredible how the
brain actually responds to all of these
behaviors, just like every other organ
system does. It's just that it was not

(38:33):
properly recognized or properly,
um.

Isn't that fascinating, though? I mean, I think it's even
crazy. And, uh, I could be wrong on this. I think it's only been
about 35 years or so that
they discovered with neuroplasticity, which
is that, yes, we can
actually rewire our brains. Like,
that's right.

That's a relatively new.

Yeah. Like, I mean, isn't that nuts? Like, we.

It is.

I mean, we should have, like, learned that before
we designed cars and spaceships. And I'm
like, we just now figured that out, you know?
My gosh.

Neuroplasticity. If you'd mentioned that word 40 years
ago, you'd have been, you know, laughed out of the room. You just
said, oh, it's nonsense. You only have the number of
neurons you were born with. That's it. That's all you have your whole life,
and that's now been disproven.

So, you know, and going back to. I
can't recall the doctor's name. The one that originally
introduced you to allo and doctor
McDaniel. Yeah, I mean, he said 80
something years old. I mean, who knows? I mean,
hopefully we're all healthy and walking
around and healthy brains and everything else until we're
100 years old. But even if you're not

(39:49):
able to physically get up and
walk around, at least if you have a healthy
brain that you can sit with your
family or enjoy time reading books to your
grandkids or whatever it is, because
your brain, like, I mean, look at my. Look at Mamo. Look
at Mamo. Bessie. I mean, and actually, that's
what was easy with her, is that she was

(40:12):
so healthy, her body
incredibly healthy, and it was
just her brain that stopped after the last ten
years. So she was able to move around,
cook, do everything that she wanted to do, but her brain just
was like, eh, uh, I'm checking out.
So, yeah, I mean, I think about it

(40:32):
again. I would love for it to be 100% healthy until
the day I die, like in 111 I'm shooting
for. But at least if I
have my brain that I can,
maybe I'll still be doing this. I don't know.

Absolutely. Well, I completely agree with
you. I mean, think of all of the diseases that you could die
from. There's, in my opinion, nothing worse than
Alzheimer's. I mean, your grandmother's the perfect example
of living ten years of her life and not even really knowing,
you know, who she was or who you guys were or.
I mean, that's horrible.

I know, I know, I
know. Exactly. Yeah.

I can't tell you now. It's been many years
since we ran that clinical trial. We had
people that were diagnosed with moderate to
severe severity. It sounds like your grandmother was certainly in
that category. And to be enrolled in the
study, they had to have been diagnosed at least for one year. So these
were not mildly, uh, impaired people who were
newly diagnosed. These were people, at least for one year

(41:34):
had been diagnosed and the severity of, you know,
again, moderate to severe. And so these
people, I mean, when you think about what their
existence was, and again, I don't remember, it seemed like
most of them, much like your grandmother, were
physically okay, like they could move around. There was only
one lady I remember for sure. I'll tell you this little

(41:54):
anecdote. When we enrolled her in the study, she was,
I'm pretty sure, the oldest subject in the study. I believe she was
93, 94, had had the
disease like your grandmother, about 1112
years, was sitting in a wheelchair
and did not talk. I mean she was
really at that level, you know, like at the most severe level
of severity. Wendy, we put her in

(42:17):
the study and of course, you know, her caregiver. I mean, I
remember that family was very
desperate to try to find something to help this poor
soul because again, she was just like a piece of furniture. I mean,
she literally just sat all day
and did nothing. And so
Doctor McDaniel and I, when we

(42:37):
decided to run the study, we wanted to study those
people primarily because we wanted to help
people, but also because those are the
people. That's the, that's the population of people with
Alzheimer's that big pharma cares nothing
about. Uh, they don't want to study those people. They look at them as
basically a lost cause.

Yes.

And so we put her on the formula, we enrolled her in
the study, put her on the Formula one
day prior and we had, it was a twelve month intervention. I didn't
really talk about the design much, but it was a twelve month intervention.
We did cognitive assessment at baseline
three, six, nine and twelve months. And then due
to limited budget, we only had the money to

(43:17):
draw blood at baseline in twelve months. But uh, we
enroll her in the study and then one
day prior to the three month assessment, she
came into the center one day
walking.

Mhm.

And she called one of the coordinators by his first
name. Wow. And that guy
started crying like a baby. So
emotionally powerful and moving for
him that he started crying. And you know, to
me like I'm getting chill bumps every time I tell this story, I
get chill bumps because the science that
we conducted is, you know, it's one thing to be an

(43:53):
ethical good, um,
effective scientists, but when you can actually do things
that improve and help people, to
me that's really where the rubber hits the road. And that's all due,
with all due respect to people doing research on
cells or tissues or animals. And unfortunately a lot of
that research never sees the light of day because

(44:13):
it just doesn't go anywhere. But when you can
actually do research on people
who are dealing with such a terrible, horrific disease and
you can actually show their lives,
their quality of their life improving, man, that, I mean,
to me that was the most rewarding.

That's fascinating. And think how much that helped even
the people around her just to, uh.

Exactly, exactly. But
what maybe some of your listeners would already be
thinking by this point. Well, hell, Lewis, tell us what you showed in this
study at
nine and twelve months. We showed
clinically and statistically significant
improvement in cognitive functioning.

(44:54):
Wendy, that's never been showed before in
any other study. Whether it's the five FDA
approved drugs for dementia, any kind of
diet, any other dietary supplement,
exercise, hyperbaric oxygen, red light therapy,
music therapy, sound therapy. I mean, I don't care what the
therapy is. No one has showed any
other type of result like that than what our

(45:17):
first paper showed that we published in 2013.
That was according to the ADAs Cog, which
is widely considered to be the gold standard for
assessing cognitive function, especially in people with
dementia. That, uh, assessment has
been published for, gosh, and thousands of papers
for, I think it was created in like the late
1970s. But I mean,

(45:39):
when we were looking after running that study for
like two and a half years, I mean, you can imagine an intervention for
twelve months in very sick people. That took us
a long time to run that study. And uh, we
were getting anecdotes like the older lady that I just
mentioned that made me feel very optimistic. We really didn't
have any idea at the end of the day what the data would

(46:00):
show. But, you know, as you're running the study and
you're hearing all these positive responses, it certainly makes you feel
good and you think, wow, you know, we're really onto something
here. And so at uh, the end of the study, after
we've, you know, concluded all the data
assessments, we've entered all the data into
the database, we've cleaned it, we've
paired it for statistical analysis,

(46:23):
and now Doctor Reg and I, uh,
we have this just ton of data at the cellular level. But
we were so excited about the cognitive function that was really,
you know, the data we wanted to look at the most. And when we found
this finding of, um, you
know, clinically and statistically significant
improvement in cognitive function, I mean, literally, like I

(46:43):
wanted to like run out of my house and run around the
block.

Like what?

I'm like, wow, you know, like, hallelujah. Like,
we've shown something that nobody else has showed. I mean, it
truly for me was like one of those moments. I'll never forget that
day. Like, it just was an incredibly
powerful, emotionally,
um, rewarding moment for me. And
so we, we published that information.

(47:08):
We also showed, and I'd mentioned some of these
kind of generically, but specifically to that first paper, we
showed an improvement in overall immune
function according to the cd four, cd eight ratio.
Our cd four cells, which I'd mentioned earlier in the HIV
story about doctor Reg, those are our helper
cells, and then our cd eight cells are our

(47:28):
cytotoxic cells. So we want that ratio
to be optimal, not just for people with Alzheimer's, but for all of us.
That's a very important ratio to look at for overall immune
function and overall immune health. So we showed an improvement
there. By the way, I didn't mention these people were on
average, 79.9 years of age.

Wow.

Yes. These were very old, very
sick folks. They didn't just have Alzheimer's, they had
diabetes, depression, forms of different
forms of heart disease. I mean, these were very old,
very sick folks. We showed
reductions in chronic inflammation according to
TNF Alpha and VEGF. These are

(48:07):
proteins commonly looked at in heart disease and cancer. We
showed that our paper was probably the first paper ever
published that showed that in people with Alzheimer's disease.
And then we showed an increase of, uh, just under
300% of adult stem cell
production. So cd 14s are a
marker of adult stem cells. We know from other
research that those adult stem cells can actually

(48:30):
turn into neurons. You mentioned neuroplasticity. So
our working theory is that the body knew the
brain was damaged, it needed to repair damage there,
and it sends those cd 14 cells that the immune
system creates, sends them out to the
brain to make new neurons repair damage,
whatever the case may be. So you put all

(48:50):
of that together. I mean, it was just an incredible picture for
us. In fact, you mentioned the number of papers I published
in my career. That first paper, in 2013,
was published in the Journal of Alzheimer's Disease. Wendy. That was
the only paper, and still to this day, and I'm still
occasionally publishing, even though that type of
publishing is not really probably in my top ten

(49:10):
priority list of, you know, running a business. But
the journal of the. The journal's
editor, we submitted the paper for publication. For
those of you don't who don't know that, that can take sometimes
years, actually. But the.
The editor, uh, called me,
like, probably, I think it was about 30 days after we'd submitted the

(49:31):
paper.

Wow.

The editor of the journal called me and he's like, doctor Lewis, this
paper is so exciting. As soon as I get the
reviews back from the reviewers, I'm going to publish your
paper immediately. That never
happens like that. That was the only time
in my career that that ever happened. Like, it
just the whole experience from, um,

(49:52):
you know, getting this family to donate the money
to running the study, to seeing the
results, to feeling all of this incredible
pride and what we had done and what we had showed, I mean, the
entire experience was just amazing. And so
I was, you know, as they say on cloud nine,
on top of the mountain, whatever. In my academic career, I thought,

(50:12):
wow, this is going to be the thing that,
you know, just propels me for the rest of my life,
basically. But m there's a downside to this story.
There's a. There's a black. Yeah, there's a black side
to the story. It actually turned out to be the
beginning of the end for me in academics, and I'll tell you
why. Because again, at my point

(50:33):
or my peak of excitement, I thought, okay,
we got this money. We got, I think it was almost
$200,000, which is a lot of money,
but in running research, it's really not a lot of
money. And so I thought,
okay, nih, Alzheimer's association, these
people are just going to bang down my door saying, here, let
me write you a check. You know, keep doing this research. This is

(50:55):
very exciting. I tried twice
with NIH. I tried twice with the
Alzheimer's association. Here, look, folks,
here is an idea. Please help us extend this
research. It's not just an idea. We actually
have data. We've got a paper we've already
published. Please help us. Help us
extend this line of research to help

(51:17):
people with this horrible disease. Wendy,
do you know what I got in response?

No.

I got the big goose egg
all four times.

Wow.

That, uh, first paper we published for, we've now published four
papers from that study. That first one was
published in 2013. I left academics, full
time academics in 2017, about a four year period. I
needed to. I had all these studies running. I
needed to wrap up all of my commitments to my other
funders. And, you know, really I had a lot of things

(51:52):
that I had to tie up. But I knew after
that, or as I was going through that, I knew I was
not going to spend the rest of my life in
academics, banging my head against the wall, making it
bleed, trying to get these so
called public health experts
to acknowledge what we had showed
and to make nutrition and in this case,

(52:14):
dietary supplementation a
key cornerstone, potentially, to helping people with
this horrible disease. And regardless of
what people say publicly, especially these
people in Alzheimer's disease, they actually anger
me the most because they do running
around, they do run around the world talking about

(52:34):
lifestyle and this and that nutrition, whatever. It,
ah, really aggravates the heck out of me that
I could not get these people to acknowledge what
we had done and to continue helping us
with this research, or not even continue, just to help us
continue our work. And now here
it's a decade later that we

(52:55):
actually, it's eleven years that we published that
first paper going on twelve years. And
one hole in my heart is that
we only were able to run that study and the study and people with
Ms. I didn't even talk about that yet. But you, uh,
know, it's such a shame that we basically lost a
decade where if we had had more money to

(53:15):
continue that research, not that we can't still continue
it, it's just that we lost a ten year
window that we could have continued going down
this road answering more questions about why these
polysaccharides are so important. But we still
have published, as I mentioned, four papers from the Alzheimer's
study, three papers from the MS study, and

(53:35):
those seven papers are very supportive
of this product we call daily brain care.
That, again, in my opinion, really doesn't have
much competition in terms of its benefit
to health. And so, you know,
I decided. I made the decision to
move away from academics. I just. I mean, I was

(53:56):
killing myself anyway, working 60, 70, 80 hours
a week, not even making, you know,
personally, a lot of money. I mean, if. If anybody thinks that
I'm just now in business to make money, well,
I spent 20 years in academics. If all I was doing is
trying to make money, I'm not very smart at it.
You don't spend, um, 20 years running research

(54:17):
studies at a university to become wealthy. Nobody does
that.

Yeah, exactly.

Unless you're a paid hack for big pharma.

Yes, it's true. I was going to say that. I was like,
it's all about big pharma.

That's right. Those are the people that make a ton of money,
people like me, especially at a very
conventional, conservative institution like the University of
Miami, where they get all of this pharmaceutical
funding and they're dependent on that. And here I am,
one of only a, uh, handful of people doing research on
nutrition, dietary supplements and exercise. I mean,
the only way I was able to keep that going

(54:52):
as long as I did was because I'm a
networker in the sense of, you know, talking to people
and making connections where I can, you
know, create a niche. And then ultimately, people respected
me and put their trust in me, like other companies
that said, well, we don't have Pfizer's budget, but
we've got 50,000, 100,000, whatever,

(55:12):
to. To run this little trial. And so I did that
for many years. But, you know, after a while, I mean, you
just, you get tired of rubbing nickels and dimes and
pennies, and.

You say, why, yes, exactly.

What? Like, um, I'm basically
ruining my own quality of life,
to be a workaholic. And then at the end of the
day, I'm barely getting any real acknowledgement from it
anyway, so why. And so I was
lucky enough to meet Doctor McDaniel. I didn't mention the lady,
Barbara Kimley, that introduced me to the rice brand story,
but Barbara was actually a patient at the cancer

(55:48):
center at the University of Miami, and she was taking this
rice brand product that she went from, given a six
month prognosis after having metastatic thyroid
disease, surgery, radiation, chemo, the
whole nine yards. And they still told her, Barbara,
sorry, you probably only going to live for six months.
She found this rice bread product, and then she
lived nine years.

Wow.

Yeah. And at the point that I met her, she sent a letter to
m my office one day, and the cancer center used to
do this quarterly publication in print before the Internet
destroyed printhead.
And so it was a very nice, you know, touchy
feely story about her. And. And she
attributed her survival to this rice bran. And so that

(56:31):
ultimately took me down that road of research. So
at the same time, I had these parallel
paths of research going on one side, the aloe vera, and on the
other side, the rice bran. But after
especially, you know, my story about not getting more
funding for Alzheimer's, I just decided ultimately I
needed to go in business. And, and at least in

(56:51):
business, I was no longer constrained by this gigantic
bureaucratic system that just kind of, you know,
controls you and pushes you down.
And especially if you're not playing in the niche of
pharmaceuticals. I mean, basically everybody at the medical
school there, you're, if you're not doing pharmaceuticals
or genetics, you're doing some sort of

(57:11):
behavioral stuff that, you know.
But again, I would put it up against
anything that we've showed in terms of
actual efficacy and actual ability to help
people, like nutrition and these
polysaccharides can, it blows anything else away.

Yeah. And really, I mean, the key is, is just getting the product out into
the world so it can heal more people.
Right. I mean, I was just thinking, I was like, I want to send
some to my parents. They need that,
you know.

You know, basically every day of my
life now consists of talking to folks like
yourself and spreading the word or doing, you know, whatever else
you do as an entrepreneur. And, yeah,
running, you know, running the whole kitchen. You're not just the
chef, you're everything, right?

Oh, yeah, I know.

You're doing it all.

Well, for everyone that's listening, I'm going to be the guinea pig,
and I'm definitely going to try your product because,
um, yeah, it's, and
you know, there's certain products that I feel I'm starting to
learn too. And I think, think, you know, the products that
you need or supplements that you need, they change, like
depending on your age and what you're going through

(58:20):
perimenopause or whether, you know,
having children, not having children, male, female,
fifties, sixties, whatever, right? But I'm
learning, like some of the products, again, like
brain health is really important to me. And then
I just had, um, the CEO of Keon
on like Keon a couple of weeks ago,
talking about essential amino acids. And I'm like, okay,

(58:43):
that's definitely another really good supplement that
I need to be taken on a regular basis. But
again, brain health is so
important that I'm finding
myself like, I mean, we've all had those moments where we're like,
wait, what was I doing?
After you have a few of them, you're like, my God, is there

(59:04):
something wrong with me? It's like,
it's scary though. Like if you, you kind of like, oh my gosh,
what was I saying? What was I talking about?

I don't know.

Why am I in this room? And
so, yes, it's, brain health is so important.
So, so how can we find your product?
How do we get some and tell us all the goodies?

So the best source for me for the most
comprehensive amount of information would be to go to
our main website, drleuisnutrition.com.
that's a D R. No, period. Lewis
Lewis nutrition.com.
uh, you can find me on all the typical social media
channels under that handle doctor Lewis nutrition.
And if you, you know, people are interested,

(59:47):
go to the main website. There are all kinds of articles
there, videos, uh, even recorded
podcasts like I'm doing with you today.
Testimonial videos, product reviews, I mean, you name
it, there's a ton of information there. Daily Brain care
is the flagship product that was created and
is basically founded. It's my inanimate

(01:00:08):
baby, you might say. But as I
mentioned, you know, my entire family takes daily brain care every
day. I mean, yeah, we look at prevention as just as
important as, as treatment. And
um, so I would encourage anybody, regardless of
your age, health status, whatever your situation
is in life, to consider it. And we have a
phone number, email address. I'm always happy

(01:00:31):
to answer anyone's questions.
I'm an open, like you, I'm an open book. I mean, I don't,
there's nothing to hide here. I'm not a guy
who pretends to be some scientist, that's a great
marketer. I'm the exact opposite. I'm
guy who was a scientist doing all
the grunt work in the trenches, got fed

(01:00:51):
up with all that and said, wait a minute. Maybe business is the way
to get this message.

>> Wendy Valentine (01:00:55):
Yeah.

>> Dr. John Lewis (01:00:56):
And, um, so now I'm essentially a marketer
with a scientific base, but if anybody questions
my credibility or my validity, my goodness,
I put my own name on the label.

Yeah.

>> Dr. John Lewis (01:01:08):
Yeah.

Really? You're like, my name's on it, dang it.

>> Dr. John Lewis (01:01:10):
Yeah, exactly. I'm not. I'm not trying to hide
anything. I, you know, this is me. This is
basically my entire adult career
here at stake of, you know, trying to help people,
so.

Well, I think, uh, you know, I went to. When I was, um,
back in Malibu, California, I
went to a cacao ceremony, apparently. I was like,
oh, they have cacao ceremonies. Maybe we should start doing
aloe ceremonies.
Like celebrate the aloe plant.

>> Dr. John Lewis (01:01:40):
Absolutely.

Fascinated. I mean, I've learned so much just in
the last, you know, hour that we've been talking. Like, it's,
it's fascinating. And the more and more
things like research or not, it's like, oh, my gosh. It's like,
it's obvious. Like, it helps so many
people. So thank you so much. I mean, I'm
grateful for all the work that you've put in in the last 20

(01:02:01):
plus years. And I always believe the stars
align exactly the way they're supposed to, and
you're exactly where you should be, and. And I
can't wait to get some. So.

>> Dr. John Lewis (01:02:11):
Absolutely, I'm happy to send you some. And thank
you, uh, for the opportunity to be here, if I may,
just one, make just one other little point, and that
is, please don't anyone leave our
conversation today and say that Lewis said
that we use nutrition to treat disease. I'm not saying that at
all. What I'm saying is that nutrition
provides the raw materials that the genes

(01:02:33):
interpret to then guide the cells and how to function
properly to allow the body to repair, restore,
and heal itself to return to homeostasis.
That's a completely different paradigm than
what big pharma uses to take one chemical,
alter a metabolic pathway to treat a symptom of a
disease. Totally different paradigm. So

(01:02:53):
please don't anyone ever
miss, quote me or misstate me to say
that. Oh, Louis said you can use nutrition to treat
disease. I don't say that. I never say that.

Yes. Yeah, I I do use nutrition, though. I
think just like you were saying, earlier. It's like what you put into your
mouth, you know, it's like. And be more mindful of that.
And be careful about what you're
consuming, no matter what it is.

>> Dr. John Lewis (01:03:17):
Exactly.

Thoughts, feelings, food, everything.

>> Dr. John Lewis (01:03:21):
That's right.

Yeah. Thank you so much doctor Lewis.

>> Dr. John Lewis (01:03:24):
Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure to be here and I'm happy to
come back anytime you'd have me again.

Yeah. Thank you everyone. Have a great day and get
your, get your daily brain care.
Did this podcast inspire you? Challenge
you? Trigger you to make a change?
Or spit out your coffee?
Laughing good. Then there are three ways you
can thank me. Number one, you can leave a written review
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two, you can take a screenshot of the episode

(01:03:51):
and share it onto social media and tag me
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with a another midlifer that needs a makeover. You know
who I'm talking about. Thank you so much for listening
to the show. Get out there and be bold.
Be free, be.

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