283 😬 Why You Still Feel Stuck (Even After All the Inner Work) with Karen Cheong

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>> Karen Cheong (00:00):
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where as we age, women are supposed to become less
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distortion patterns, you start to recognize your power and you
really can start to step into the wise woman, which has
more to do with being authentically you and just expressing
you like, look, we're all flawed, okay?

>> Wendy Valentine (00:22):
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the inner work, been there, done that,
therapy, personal development, meditation,
yet something still feels off,
then today's episode is for you. Our
guest, Karen Chong is an internationally
recognized transformational speaker,
writer and healer who helps people release
deep unconscious blocks, what she

(04:21):
calls distortion patterns
so they can finally experience the richness
and freedom of life. After a personal health
crisis in her early 20s set her on a journey of
self discovery, Karen spent over
25 years exploring energetic and
mystical systems leading to a life
changing realization. The key to

(04:43):
transformation starts at the frequency level.
Today, Karen is here to teach us why so many
people feel stuck even after
years of self work, and how we can
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(05:05):
Please welcome Karen to the show. Ra.

Thank you. Oh my God, I love that
I need to take that intro from you. That's amazing.

you know, so funny. When I, when I first started
this podcast, I used to record the
intros like on a separate time, you know, I would. And then
I'd have my editor piece it together and I was like,
silly. I was like, what if I just do it right then and there, you know?

Yeah. And then.

But it's so funny because it, talk about frequency levels, it's
like, whoa. You know, like the guest always
is.

Like, yeah, that's fine.
Well, I appreciate it.

Always sets the tone, right?

Yeah, absolutely sets the tone. Love it.
Okay, let's rock.

You're welcome. And you know, yeah, we had
not a rough start, but it's funny, you know, we're talking about
this, that we had Some technical difficulties,
but, people with high frequencies tend
to have more technical difficulty.
If there's anything negative about having such
positive frequency, that's it.

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But we'll take it. We'll take it.

We'll take it. Yeah, totally.

Yeah.
So, okay, we're gonna go back in
time, tell us about your breakdown,
and lead us into your breakthrough moment.

Yeah, well, I've had a number of them. You know, I feel like most of
us who start on this journey of exploration, really, because that's what it is.
Like, we're just in an exploration of what can we possibly be?
And my exploration of, like, okay, well, what is
there that I can't see that creates
form. That creates what I feel is immovable, but that creates, like,
this density of this world. What is there? So for me,

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I've had a couple of those moments. The one that led me
frequency work was that, you know, at the time, I was living in San
Francisco with my husband and partner, Chris,
meaning business partner, and we had a, real estate practice there.
So we were helping people buy and sell their homes. And
from the outside, I mean, this life looked amazing, right?
We were one of the top producers in the city. So

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lots of money coming in. We had a 90% referral rate.
So we actually really loved our clients. Our, rule
between Chris and myself was we don't work with douchebags.
We only work with nice people. You know, we work really
hard. And we had the good fortune to be able to choose
really nice people, which was really great. And, you
know, we got to travel a lot. We loved the city that we were
living in. So, you know, on the outside, life

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looked pretty damn amazing. And, you know, this is, like,
after, like, 25 years of seeking. So I'm an intense person.
I did all the stuff, you know, I did all the
personal development stuff, exploring all the energetic
modalities. And I'm also really curious. So I was
like, well, what happens when I implement this stuff? Right?
Like, I mean, it's one thing to sit in a workshop and another thing to be like,
okay, well, does this work in my life? You know, like, let's see what

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happens when we apply it. So I'd be applying all this
stuff, and, you know, like I said, our, life looked amazing
on the. From the outside anyway. And.
But for me, internally, despite all the
inner work, I still felt a lot of scarcity.
So my experience was I would
spreadsheet often, like,
sometimes nightly, depending how stressed I was, how many

(08:14):
days we had left until we had to sell
our house and move in with my parents.
So, you know. And, you know, of course, I'd done enough
inner work to realize that this is not normal. This is
not the way I want to feel. This is not a. A good
feeling for me. And, you know, Chris would show me
our bank account, be like, you know, babe, we got enough. And

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we'd had more than enough. But still I had this feeling.
So I started also noticing that
despite doing all these different energetic modalities and personal development
and doing what we could for our clients and going above and beyond and
doing all this stuff, that there were still agents who
were not doing as much, who didn't care as much about their clients,
and yet were outperforming us. So I was like, that's

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really weird. And then I started asking the
universe a question. Now, I don't know if you've ever asked the
universe a question enough times that you
start to get an answer. Well, my question was,
what the hell am I missing? What am I missing?
You know, what's going on that I can't see?
That is like a blind spot for me.
Right? So I happened to be

(09:19):
on my acupuncturist table just after a
journey from France. And I've been asking this question now for a couple of months.
And, the answer sort of came in in a funny. A funny way, because she
said to me, have you ever heard of frequency
work? And literally in that moment, time got
really long. Like, I don't know if you've ever. If anybody
remembers that scene in the Matrix, you know, where, like, Neo goes

(09:40):
back and the bullets fly by him in
this slow motion and he, like, flicks them off.
Ok, well, imagine a very mundane version of
that, of a woman in her 40s, you know, in an
acupuncturist office. Right? But it really. I mean, in that
moment, it, like, time slowed so I could see, like, every
single angle as I turned. Like, really. It was a very odd moment.
And as soon as that happened,

(10:02):
I knew. Or I had to ask her. well, no, I
haven't, but I know that I need to. What is it? And
so when I started frequency work, it wasn't like
I had a particular outcome. Like, I
wasn't like, let me have healing abilities. Let me save the world. Let
me whatever. I was just like, can I just please freaking stop
spreadsheeting? That would be amazing. You know what I mean? Can I just
have that fear of not enoughness go

(10:25):
away? That's really all I wanted. And because, like, I'm an Intense
person. I did it
intensively. And after a couple of months, my husband said to
me, hey, have you noticed that you've stopped spreadsheeting?
And I'm like, no, actually, I hadn't noticed it. But
that's amazing because, you know, with frequency work, because it's at the
level of a quantum, you don't really necessarily

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feel like the thing that is your new state, your
new resonance level is just your new normal, right? So you don't notice it as
much until you look backwards a little bit.
And so it just became my new normal. And because I was like,
well, if this can happen, if I do
this by releasing my distortion patterns, meaning rise in my frequency
resonance, well, what else is possible? So I just kept doing it

(11:06):
and then fast forward two years.
And it's funny that you mentioned this because I got called,
to a retreat, in Sedona, which is
where you are right now, which is kind of funny and ironic. And, I'd
never heard of the teacher. I'd never heard of the work he'd
done. And it was a 12 day retreat,
which, you know, if anybody out there is like,
anybody who owns a small business, like, to take

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12 days off completely from your business is like
a, feat of, like, logistical coordination and a whole bunch
of other things, right? So I was like, man,
I mean, I don't know that it makes sense for me to go, but
I knew I had to. And as soon as I signed up, I.
It was confirmed because my resistance went off the charts, right? So it was
just like all these reasons why I shouldn't be going popped up. And I

(11:50):
almost sent a cancellation email like, I don't know how many times, but I knew
enough about myself to be like, okay, something big is about to change. I don't
know what it is, but I got to go. So I go to this
retreat and I arrive there and there's like a hundred people in this room and said, And
supposedly the theme of the retreat was piercing into the
absolute. Now, I didn't know what the hell that meant. I was like, yeah,
really?

But it sounds good.

It sounds cool. Exactly. I was like, it sounds really cool. I don't know what
that means. But when I went in there, I
knew enough, or I could feel enough that I was like, the
field of this retreat, meaning the energetic field of this retreat
felt unstable to me. There were a lot of people trying to prove how awake they
were. And there's a lot of ego mind stuff. And I was like, I don't
know about this. It doesn't seem like we're gonna be able to do this big ass

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jump that he's saying that we can do. So in that
moment, I made this sort of radical choice for me, which
was I'm not gonna come back to this retreat.
So just for context, you know, I'm of Chinese descent.
I had just taken 12 days off my really
busy schedule. I'd just thrown down
thousands of dollars. And, you know, it's not
like I typically don't sit my ass in the chair,

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take copious notes, then implement everything,
prioritize the order in which I, like, that
was just how I operated. So the fact that I was like, yeah, m. No, I'm not
going to this retreat was like, right.
So I decided, okay, I'm not going to come back. And
I'm going to. I have 12 days off. Instead of going home
or doing work, I was like, wait a minute, I have 12 days off to meditate.

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Like, when does that ever happen in my lifetime? Ever? Never.
You know, never. Like, when do we ever give ourselves that much time?
So anyhow, I put myself into meditation the next
morning. And I don't know why Wendy, I was like. Had the gall
to think I could do this, but I was just like, okay, I'm just gonna
raise my frequency resonance and see if I can do what he says that we were
supposed to be doing in this retreat. I'm just gonna try it. I mean, it doesn't

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hurt, right? So, sit down,
Raise my frequency resonance. Expand, expand, expand,
expand. Then I hit a ceiling. Like, literally, it felt like
I was expanding. And then I was like, I couldn't go anymore. And I was like, what the
hell's the ceiling? And I realized without
thinking that I really had
to let go of who I thought I was. Like, truly.

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I was like, I don't know what's past this ceiling, but I
know that somehow that I
have to be okay with losing me who
I think I am. Which for someone who is a control
freak at the time, was absolutely terrifying. Like, I know a lot of
people talk about surrender. For me, surrender was like the hardest thing. I was
like, I don't know how some people think that's super easy.

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I was like, this is. Well.

And also think too, like, surrender. Like, we think of
waving the white flag as a sign of weakness.

Yeah.

A sign of strength. Right? Strength. Yeah, that's hard to do.
Like, in letting go of yourself and not knowing. Like,
hey, what's around the corner here?

Exactly. Exactly. I'm like, Am I going to lose my mind? Am, I going to
forget?

Like.

Right. It was just really scary for me. And
so I. There was a lot of crying, and there was a lot of,
like, my own inner work. And then all of a sudden, when
I finally sort of came to this
within myself, where I was like, I am willing
to. Like, I. I really am willing to. I
don't know what will happen, and I'm okay with it. And all of a sudden,

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I felt this huge expansion. And then I did
lose the sense of me. Like, I. Karen.
The identity as Karen, disappeared. And all I felt was the
Oneness. And in that, I just started
laughing because I was just like, oh, my God.
Like, I've forgotten that I'm part of the One. It was like forgetting that you have a hand, you
know, it's like, right here. How can you forget that? It's kind of ridiculous. And

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then I started to cry because I couldn't believe that I'd
forgotten that I was part of the One. And
it, was this incredible experience of
everythingness. And I
then perceived everything as frequencies. I was like,
whoa. And I'm not thinking right, so I'm just having this experience.
And then I realize without thinking that I can change

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frequencies. And I was like, How odd.
And so finally, I come out of the meditation, and
it's dark. And I'm like, that's weird. You know? So I get up to pee because.
And I look at the clock, and it's been nine hours. And I was
like, what?

So, you know, it probably felt like nine
minutes.

Huh?
Yes. It didn't feel like. It felt like 25. Like, honestly, it
was like less than half an hour in my. My sense of time. Right.

Yeah.

So I'm like, weird. And
so I kept expecting that feeling to disappear,
meaning the feeling that everything is frequencies. Like, I thought it was just gonna go away.
I don't know why I thought that, but I thought it was. So, you know, here I am,
Sedona. So I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna go hiking because, I mean, I'm gonna meditate and hike. I
mean, what else am I gonna do? So out hiking. And it
literally felt like the Matrix, which is like an oddly accurate movie in some

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ways. But it literally felt like I could put my hand through the
illusion. And I realized that the illusion isn't here to punish us,
which a lot of us feel like it is. It's really here to help us to grow and to
transcend. And so it's.

If we allow it. Right?

If we allow it. Exactly. Yes, exactly. If we're not
fighting against it all the time. Exactly to your point. And then,
so, as it so happens, a friend of mine happens to be overlapping with me
and Sedona for about like 12 hours. So she
comes over to my tiny little studio apartment and we're catching up. And, ah,
as she's talking, I'm like, hey, do you need
help with that problem that you're talking about? Because I can see

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these patterns running through her. She looked at me funny and she's like,
sure. So I, cleared her patterns.
She left, didn't hear from her. Three
days later, my phone starts to blow up with all these
texts from her friends being like, hey, I'm a friend
of your friend and I heard that you were turned. And her.
Everything's starting to change for her. Like, can you give me a session? And I

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was like, sure.
So that's how it started, basically.

that is amazing. I mean, it also
goes to show, like, you're talking about, like, in your real estate
days of putting in so much effort, and
here, this was like the law of least effort. You just like,
naturally just did it and it just came your way.

Yeah, yeah. It was utterly shocking. I
wasn't expecting it at all.

Oh, my gosh, there's so much to unpack.
Okay, let's go back to, the distortion
pattern. So, like, even when you just said with your,
oh, let's release this distortion
patterns you got going on here, what does
that mean?

Yeah, totally. So
from my perspective, and I'm sure the, listeners of your show
know this because they're following you and you're interested in this, is that everything
is vibrating, right? So that's not a new news
flash, right? I mean, everybody knows this now. So the rate of the
vibration is what determines the form. So. So if you take something really simple
like water, when the molecular vibration is high, it's
steam. When the molecular vibration slows down, it becomes liquid

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water. When it slows down some more, it becomes solid or ice or
form. So if you take that idea and you extrapolate
it all the way out to consciousness, or the oneness
or pure source, or whatever you call the divine, or
whatever you call that very highly resonating consciousness from
which everything comes and to which everything returns,
that's vibrating at an extraordinarily high rate,

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of course, that we can't measure yet with our human tools.
But for the oneness, to have an
experience of something other than the Infinite
oneness, there needs to be a drop in vibration.
So when that drop in vibration happens,
frequencies are formed. And when the vibrational level
drops some more, it creates something that we call
energy. Now you know, that we talk about these days. And when that

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slows down even more, it creates emotion,
thought, form, physical matter.
So your distortion actually happens at the
level of frequency. Now I know a lot of us think that
we've got to like march around in our days and like tackle things and
overcome struggles and blah blah, blah. That's what we've been told, right?
And then if we do that, things will change on

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spirit level. But it's actually the inverse because it's the
higher resonating order of things always
dictates. So if you change things at the quantum
or frequency level, then the physical will be organized
around it. So to your question, so what the hell
then is a distortion pattern. Okay, so
from my perspective here you

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are as a sphere of pure source energy, okay,
that's vibrating at this beautiful unique rate of vibration.
It's what individuates you, it's what creates
you. Ness versus me. Ness. Right.
So that ball or sphere of pure
source energy must drop in vibration to have
embodiment. Obviously it's vibrating much higher than,
than your physical body. Yes. So it drops into

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embodiment. When that happens, there's
layers and layers and layers and layers and layers and layers and layers and layers and layers and layers
and layers of what look like duct tape to me,
that form around the sphere. So what are
the layers of duct tape? Now before I answer that,
what's the effect of the duct tape, which is actually the more important thing, in a
way, the effect of the duct tape is, first of

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all, if you ever picked up a small ball of duct tape, you
recognize that it's heavy, so you have that all around
you. What happens, the rate of vibration of the
sphere drops. It must because of the weight of the
duct tape.

that makes sense. Okay, good analogy. I like it, I like
it.

So here you are vibrating lower and
you also are blinded by it. So you
think that all around you is the duct tape. You
actually don't have any perception of the field of pure
source energy all around you. That's why you think you're limited. That's
why you think you can't create or manifest what it is that you think you
want. So the thing is, the ball of

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duct tape, or the layers of duct tape are a metaphor
for these distortion patterns that I've been talking About.
So your distortion patterns come from things
like your lineage or your ancestors,
which is what Dr. Bruce Lipton talks about when he talks about
epigenetics, right?

Love, Bruce.

Yes, exactly. Dr. Joe Dispenza, Greg Braden.
You know, they all talk about
epigenetics, right? It's this new science that's coming in.
Then you have your cultural distortion patterns. You have your
religious distortion patterns, whether or not you were brought up in an
agnostic household. Okay? So let's just imagine there is
no religion in your household. But I can guarantee you that your
ancestors definitely were impacted by religion, and

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you are receiving that field. So you're in the
field of that whether you were born into it or not.

Because even those. Those beliefs as well
have been handed out. And it's energy.

Absolutely, yes.

Passed down.

That's right.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah. It's just a frequency resonance that you've picked up on that you've been
trained to from your parents, your grandparents, your
great grandparents, and then, of course, your past lives. And
that's the short list of most of the things that creates
the layers of the duct tape.
But the thing is. That's amazing. Is.
And, you know this already, Wendy, is that we are at this point of
consciousness now, which has been rising. Now, I know when you look at the world,

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you're like, consciousness is not rising, right? It looks like we're all going to hell in a
handbasket. Right? You're just like, the world is falling apart.

I think it is.

I think it's rising. Yeah, it is
rising. I mean, if you think about it, 30 years ago, acupuncture
was exotic. No, honestly, like, people didn't know what it was. Like,
even yoga was like, whoa.

Having conversations like, this was
voodoo and weird.

Yeah.

No, look at, us now.

Exactly. Like, even manifestation people are like, what? You know, I mean,
like, honestly, it was all new back in the day. And
so consciousness is rising. And
so with consciousness rising, you have someone like me
who can now work at this level of the quantum or
the frequency. And the thing is, I just want to say this, like, I'm
not particularly special. We can all do this. It's just about. I

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happen to be a little bit faster. Right. It all has to do with your resonance
rising so that you can start to access
more and more. You know, that's really what it's all about.

And really, too. It's like you've removed
your duct tape. So you're able to see and
experience and feel, which is why you've become a
Teacher of it. And you're exactly right.
Everyone can do it because we are all in the same.
We're in this bowl of energy together, right?

Yeah, absolutely. And we're all one. Yeah, absolutely.
And it's just kind of like, you know, you know,
Deepak Chopraz talked about this a long time ago. Like in the
80s, he had this crazy thing that he called the field,
right? You would talk, and in the 80s, people were like, you know, we would
all read hardback books. You know what I mean?
Like back in the day, right? And now, you know, more and more people talk about

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it. You know, Lynne McTaggart has written the book the Field. You know, Dr. Joe
Dispenza talks about this all the time. Greg Brightnick. The field is
like now, sort of, a term that a lot of people
know about. But the important thing about all that discussion is we all
know now that the field's infinite. They've actually proven it, right? So the
field is infinite. You are part of the field.
The field is part of you. But the thing is,

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if there are infinite possibilities, why do we always get stuck?
Like, why are we down here middling in this crappy
existence that we're in? Well, it all has to do with your vibrational
level. So it's the key that
opens more possibility. So if you just imagine that
your vibrational level is this closed like this,
right? And here you are experiencing whatever you're

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experiencing, and you're like, ah, I'm stuck. I'm stuck. I'm stuck. Well,
when your frequency resonance rises, not only does your.
I mean, this happen in terms of your perspective rising, but it
also starts to open. So now you can
see more, perceive, be aware of more
possibility within the field. That's when
life starts to change. Because not only do you start to change,

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but what you can access because of your frequency
resonance opens, right? So to answer your
question that you asked many minutes ago, why
do we keep getting stuck? Well, because your frequency resonance is too
low. And so now you're only seeing the same distortion patterns
over and over again, which are creating your life. But when you start to release
your distortion patterns and you rise in your resonance, that keyhole
opens. And now the possibilities that you get to

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experience are different.

That all makes such good sense to
me. And I think that I
feel. And even for myself, going back where I.
I used to struggle is okay the same way. Like, there's
this light right here, right?

Like we.

We all have electricity, majority of us here in the
world, but turning on and off the light.
And how in the hell that light bulb comes on
still blows my mind.

Totally. Yeah.

I feel like for. For us is. And because
we were. I mean, there's so much knowledge
and information around us that we. We
want proof of stuff. Stuff. And so when we don't
get that proof and we don't grasp it.

Yeah.

That's why we can't get in there and have that.
And so it's like less information and more transformation.
Like, we can't get to that. So how does
someone. If someone's, like, having a hard time understanding,
like, okay, they're like, this all sounds fluffy and wonderful,
but how the heck do I. You
know? And also, because we're as human

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beings, it is invisible.
So it's like having this belief in something
that we can't see and we don't feel it until
we can experience it. So then how do
we. Where do you begin? Where does someone
actually begin to experience it
and feel it and remove all that heavy ass?
Stuck.

Yeah. So it's. It's. You know, it's funny. It's so much
easier than we think. You know, we always think we have to really struggle.

Yeah.

You just. So let me give you a story. So
it's helpful. All right. So I have a client who
was in her late 40s at the time that she found me.
Now, she had been doing a ton of inner work because
her challenge was finding a partner, right? So
she was always with guys that were
either emotionally absent or emotionally

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abusive. And how she compensated for
their douchebaggery was that
she was more awesome, Right? So here she
was doing more stuff, like, she would write cards to
their mother. She would plan their vacations, she would walk his
dogs. She would do, like, all this stuff. Now, this is a
woman who's already highly successful, okay? She
has her own really successful healing practice.

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She's warm. She has tons of friends. Like, she's actually
like, the most lovely person. So you're like. And all
of her friends would look at her and be like, why are you with this
jerk? You know what I mean? Or, like a different flavor
of jerk. Right? So, yeah. Anyway. And finally. And she's
like, I don't know. Like, I don't know why I keep doing this. You know, I keep
going to all these different retreats and blah, blah, blah. But I can't seem to

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shake this one thing, okay? M.
Finally she hears about me from a friend. It tends to be how it
works, right? And so she hears about me from a friend, and
she's like, okay, all right. I am, at the point
where I really need to break up with this guy.
So she starts to listen to what I call group frequency calibrations. It's
just like a guided meditation. She starts listening to it, and she's like, whatever. I don't have anything

(28:04):
to lose. It's free. I'm just gonna listen to the thing. So she listens to it,
and as she starts to listen more and more, there's something within her. It's like,
I need to listen to more of these, and I don't know why, so I'm just gonna follow that,
okay? And so she decides, okay, screw it. I'm gonna break up with
douchebag number 12 or whatever it is right in her life.
She's like, and I'm just gonna take a hiatus from guys,
okay? And it's not like I hate men. I just need to work on
me. I just. For some reason, I just feel like I need to take a little

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pause here. Just put the brakes on, work on me, and see what
happens. Now she has no outcome other than the fact that she
knows that. She's like, I don't feel good about myself.
Like, in relationship, I don't feel good with myself. After
the relationship, I just don't feel good about myself. I just
need that to stop, okay? I don't care if I never date another man again.
I just don't want to feel this way anymore. So she starts

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intensively doing frequency work. So, which means that she's starting to listen
more to my meditations. She is,
doing a process, which is really important that I call
confirming the removal. Because, look, I just wanted
to bunk myth from that. Happens a lot in the spiritual movement,
which is, like, some guru is going to save you by
chanting over your head, or some teacher's going to wave
over you, and then, presto, you're gonna be awake, and then unicorns will

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fly by, everything will be glorious, and all
your problems will disappear. Okay? So let me just,
like, put it this way.

Is that not possible?

Why can't it just happen that way? It'd be so much easier, right? Like,
just give me the pill. but she was just like, you know,
I. I want to be stronger
myself, right? So there's this process that I call confirming the
removal. So I release a distortion pattern at the level of the quantum.
But here's the catch. You have free will. You do.
I know it doesn't feel like it sometimes, but you do. And the

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thing is, sometimes it's a Blessing. Because you're like, sweet. I just chose that
thing. And sometimes we're like real dumb with it, right? You're like, oh my God,
right? Like, why did I just choose that? So however, you
do have free will. And the thing is, you are co creating your reality
whether you're aware of it or not. And every single second, whether you're
doing it intentionally, intentionally or unconsciously,
you are doing it. Which probably will excite the some of you and scare the hell out of

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others of you, but whatever is, you're doing it.
And so the thing is, by you confirming the removal,
you're stepping into your power. This is where the magic is that
everyone sort of, misses. You have to step into your power
as co creator and be like, no, that pattern for
me no longer exists. So she did that over and
over again. She's like, okay. Self doubt, Nope.
Non worthiness, Nope. Right? So they're just taking a stand.

It's almost like taking a stand against your
old self and be like, exactly. You're like,
bye. Like, bye, Felicia. Yeah,
bye. Gotta go.

Yeah, exactly. You're totally right.
Cause you're like, that version of me doesn't have to be the version
of me that I choose to live. So she did
that for, I don't know, intensively, for I think three or four
months. And at the end of that, she was like, okay,
I kind of feel like I'm gonna do a test run, like,
just to see what I'm like with men. I don't need

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to date the guy. I don't forever. I don't need to
marry him. I just want to see how I am.
In response to a dating scenario, that's really what her
test was. So her friends help her get on a dating
app and she ends up with two dates, right? She
goes for coffee with guy number one and she says, she's so
funny. She wrote into customer service. She's like, okay, so

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I'm sitting here with this coffee with this guy, and this is the type of guy I would have
been attracted to before actually. I would have totally
been all over this guy. But she's like, this time I was like,
oh, oh, oh, oh, hell no. I see all the patterns.
I see where I would have been pulled into this and wanting to save
him. I saw all this.

She was able to rise above that. She was able to rise.

Exactly. Yes, exactly. And she had the distance to
be like, I see all that stuff. I don't want it. So she's like,
I don't know if we're gonna be friends? Probably not, but thank you for showing
me how I used to be. Okay, right, off
to the next guy, right? 24 hours later, goes for coffee with
guy number two. She's so funny. She
says to me in one of the sessions we have later, I

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would never have been attracted to this guy in the past,
never in a million years, physically, emotionally. He
just wouldn't have been my jam. But you know what? I didn't
really. I just wanted to connect with him, right? So it's just like I just
was trying to see what would happen. I was just present. Didn't have any
outcome. What's it like to connect with this human? That's
all. So they ended up having coffee for two hours, which

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is kind of weird, right? Because on a first date you're like, okay, maybe an hour max,
right? No. They talk for two hours. They end up going for dinner. They
end up going camping together. Within the month, they are in Europe. Two weeks,
like, two months later, like, fast forward a year,
they end up getting engaged, and now they're married. But, the thing
is, it's not about the marriage. You know,
a lot of people will think about the ring and be like, oh, ring on the

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finger. That's the. That's the tip
of, like, that's the pinnacle. It's not.
The amazing part of this whole story is her.
Because what she said to me was, for the
first time in my life, I can receive
love from a guy and not have
to prove I'm, worthy of it. When he says, I love

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you and let me do something to make you happy, I
can receive it and I feel worthy of
receiving it. What
happened? You know what I mean? Like, before, she was doing all this stuff
to make him happy. Now all of a sudden, she can receive
him making her happy because. And it makes him happy to
make her happy. Mind blowing change, right?

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To be able to receive love when she couldn't before. So
that, to me, is the win. It's not about the ring.
It's about her. You know what I mean?

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to share something with you. It's still kind of, a little
aha moment here. There's something that you said earlier
that I had not really thought about

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regarding thought.
So thoughts, beliefs,
which that were a lot of. A lot
of everything can stem from, right?

Yeah, yeah, totally.

It is still at that lower
human level.

That's right.

I don't know why I had not thought about that before,
because, I mean, as we know, right, an atom is
99.9999% energy,
and there's only 0.0001% matter. But
as human beings, we see the matter. We see that
compared to the larger picture of the whole
freaking thing.

Yeah, but.

And they're like, this is still kind of like, coming to me,
like this whole aha moment. But
really, it's interesting. Okay, hold on.
I'm getting it. I'm getting it.

Okay.

We think about therapy, and I love therapy. I am, pro
therapy, right? Had to do it for years and decades
and might ever. Might even do it again someday, right?
But when we're concentrating on our limiting
beliefs, our crazy thought patterns
are the everything, all of that that
swirls around in our human brains and

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our minds, right? It's
still at that lower level, like, if we
concentrate on that, but that's not what we should be concentrating
on. We should be rising above that.

Yeah.

Which is in that invisible.
99.999%.

Yes. Yeah. Because your thoughts.

I don't know if any of that made sense.

Absolutely. Because what you're. What you're saying, at least from
my perspective, is that your thoughts and your emotions are really
the embodied reflection of your distortion,
right? So your thoughts that you go around, your limiting
beliefs, whatever, are actually how your
brain processes that distortion. So the thing
is, by look, I'm not poo pooing therapy. Therapy

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can be really helpful. And I actually feel like multiple
disciplines are really helpful. I mean, I do it myself. I don't
just focus on one thing. I mean, do what works, right? I mean, if you combine things
and then get better faster, do it right. So,
you know, whether it's therapy or coaching or something
like emotional freedom technique or neuro emotional
release or whatever the hell, whatever, your jam is
great. If you combine that with releasing

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things at the level of the field, if you, as you
say, and the invisible at the level of the quantum,
it's like rocket fuel. Because what happens is you're changing
things at the level at which they begin.
M. What happens is amazing because people think
differently. You have no idea how many
testimonials I have. People are like, I never would have thought of
that. I never would have seen that opportunity. I never would

(38:13):
have had that synchronicity, because I wouldn't have
seen it. Given how I was conditioned in my thought
patterning, in my stories, in what I thought
and assumed was true, I never in
a million years would have had this realization,
like, just kind of like what you just had. So you're like, wait a minute. Wait a
minute. What? So if I can release my distortion

(38:33):
patterns, then what opens in terms of what it is that's possible
for me? Everything. Because like I said, your
thoughts and your emotions are a reflection or the
embodiment of your distortion. Once you release the
distortion, your mind opens. Like, honestly, your
perspective shifts. It becomes bigger, broader.
You actually can sit with more because
you're not as attached to your fixed, you know,

(38:56):
perspective. You're like, you may not agree, okay? You may not
agree with all the crazy crap that people are saying. You may not be
like, you might not. You might be like, okay, whatever.
But instead of being like, all angry about it and
getting very like, I have to show them that I'm right. You're like,
well, you know, I can understand why they have that perspective.
I don't agree with it. From my perspective, I

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don't agree with it. But I can sit with it. You know what I
mean? Because I think a lot in the world right now, there's so much polarity.
Right. Us versus them. I'm right, you're wrong. But
there used to be a time when it was like, okay,
well, I understand your perspective. I don't hold it.

Yes, yes.

But you don't now have to be enemies for life
because I don't agree with you. You know what I mean?
It's so weird. So anyway, it just changes
and as you say, you get to have more
distance and space from your own thoughts and emotions. And
you get to say things like, is that really true?

It's like, it's. It's like the saying, Or to be
in the world, but not of the world. To be. To
hear someone else's opinion or to see something going
on but not be attached to it.

Exactly.

To not have like that duct tape put back on
you because of what someone else is doing outside
of you.

Exactly. Yeah. And they're. And then it's.
It's easier, I think, for a lot of us to be like, that's theirs.
It's theirs. It's not mine. It's okay that it's there.

Think about when, like the word distortion.
I m. Think about like the old days when we had radios
you would like. Especially if you move to a new city and you're like,
oh, I gotta find the stations, you know.

Yeah.

And you're turning the knob and you're trying. And
you know someone told you 98.1. So you're like okay,
98.2 you90.

Yeah.

And it's like that distortion. It's that noise.

Exactly. And then.

Yeah. And once you tune in to the right
station, it's crystal
clear you hear the music. And not
to like, I'm m. All about analogies and breaking words apart,
but universe is one song. Uni.
Yeah, one. And versus song.

Yeah. Yeah.

And it's like I've always thought about that like, and how we're all
these notes.

Yes.

If you're. You're a note. I'm a note where every. Everybody's
a note note. And it makes up this one
song. And how we all create
harmony is by raising
that frequency is by raising that.
That into a nice beautiful
harmony song. Yeah.

I ah, totally agree with you. And it's like, the higher that you
like, as I said before, you have free will.
So how clear and how bright and how
beautiful your note is is completely up to you.
Right. It's not like bad if your note is a little
bit less harmonious, it's about clarifying.
Because as you said, you know, the thing with manifestation that I think a
lot of people get wrong is that they think that it's all about the

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method. But as you said, the distortion is like
static around you. So here you are, right? We believe that we
have a really clear intention. We want to manifest this. And it's this clear
signal out to the universe and it's going to return to us what it is that we
want. Okay. M. But the thing is, they're your distortions.
So all that static that you talked about, like,
is around you. And what is the universe here?

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It's like, what, oh what. It's static.
That's what it hears. And what does it return to you? Your reality
reflects the static. So the thing is,
when you clear your distortions, you're actually
clearing your own signal that you are
broadcasting constantly in every second
without knowing it. And that's what your reality is. And so

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what happens is that with so many people, they're
just like, how is my life like this?
It's like a level of clarity that I
couldn't have imagined really. And that happens over and over
again. And you know, whatever that looks like for you will be
different, right? A lot of people think, okay, well, when I'm wealthy and I
have the partner and whatever, that's what clarity is. But there's so

(42:48):
much more beyond that, as you guys all know, right? There's like
freedom. There's like this, being able to be inspired
and be able to be more authentically you. And
Yeah, I think for women, like, step
into your power as we start to age, which I think is,
Yeah.

And I think too sometimes we, we, we
crave this because we feel like we're wanting
something outside of ourselves. I mean, not to say you can't
manifest whatever the heck that you want in this universe. You want to get a
Ferrari, Great. Right. But
that's wonderful. But I feel like
when you do this, when you do tune into

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that radio station, you
get more than you thought you were.

Absolutely.

Honestly, on a totally different level than
you even thought was possible. Because you couldn't
experience it yet, right? Because you were still.
Yeah,

Absolutely.

I, I do feel like, I think you even said
something earlier about this. It's not like you have to be psychic or you
have to have these natural. We all have
it. And if you think about it, no matter who's listening
right now, everyone know, everyone can tap it and go, how
Do I feel right now everyone pretty much knows
if their radio station is off a little bit.

Oh, totally. I know.

And it's not to say, right? Like, even if you. Yeah. Even if
you rise above these energy levels, that doesn't
mean you stay there. You can fall back down. But you
know, you know what that feels like to be at those
higher energy, higher frequencies,
right?

Absolutely.

Yeah. I mean, my God, if someone walks into the room
with. In a shitty mood, you know it without
even speaking to that person.

Yes, absolutely. And that's why, like, it's
funny, as you say, it's not static. A lot of people think, like, when you get to a
certain level, then you just stay there forever. Like, that's happens with a
lot of guru worship. They're like, oh, this person's awake. And they're always going to be
that way. It's always fluctuating. I don't know if you notice this, like, how you
feel, how you are, how you show up. It changes, right? And it
changes sometimes even from moment to moment. But that's why,

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I'm all about tools and I'm all about, like, what do you need
to learn to empower yourself to raise your own frequency?
Resonance. Right. It's not about codependency, it's about, like, teaching. Right.
And so the thing is, that's why I give programs. Like, I
have this monthly program called Living youg Brilliance. Because there is a lot
going on right now. There's a lot happening in the collective, which feels
not good. So you can kind of get mired into

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that. Yes. So the point of something like living your brilliance is
to keep you, like, really, like, away from that. Not
that it's bad, but just be like, okay, I don't need to get stuck here. I can experience
it, not get stuck here. And then in train up, right?
It's always about in training up to a higher level order
of resonance. Constantly, constantly, constantly. So that you're having
this momentum in your life that starts, like, to feel like a

(45:26):
groundswell. Because, you know, I created that program because
a lot of people would come in from one on one sessions and they'd have this
amazing experience, but then it's like they'd kind
of get caught in, like, whatever was happening in their.

Not knowing what to do. And the noise.

Yeah, right. Like you said, like, then you're now
between stations again. Okay, well, can you bring yourself back up?
You know, it's kind of like working it out, but like. Yeah, spirit level.

Yes, exactly. So is it.
Does it come down to really
meditation.

Well, meditation is really great. Okay, So I think meditation is
really helpful. But I feel like in order to rise
in your resonance, you actually need something else. And it's what I call
a group frequency calibration, where I'm m helping
the collective or the mastermind is what I call it to
actually release distortion patterns around a specific
topic and to clarify their
awareness of their connection to the Oneness. Because you

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always have it. You infinitely have it. It's
impossible to not have it because you are alive. But
we'd forget how to. Like we're like, what, what, what is
this? We don't even think about it really. So it's just about
clarifying your awareness of that connection because it's there. We just
don't think about it.

Right.

We're looking at our phones. So the thing is,
when you have a group frequency calibration, so it
sounds a lot like meditation. So when you listen to it, it's gonna be like, gee, it sounds like a gut at
meditation. Totally it does. And in the background, I'm working
at the level of the field to help you
to release those distortion patterns to rise in your
resonance. And just to make it really clear, those two things happen at the same

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time. As soon as you release the heaviness of a distortion pattern, what
happens? Your resonance rises.

Right.

It's just like a hot air balloon, like you're chucking off the sandbags. And of
course you're rising. So you just have to. And it sounds
like it's going to be too good to be true. And I suppose,
I guess if you think of it From a really 3D perspective, it is,
but you just have to listen to a
quick frequency calibration and then do what I call
confirming the removal, which is that part we talked about earlier, which is like this

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is no longer mine and I have a five step process to help you through
it. So it's not very hard. And I
actually offer a lot for free. So, just like
you, Wendy, I have my own podcast, over 200 episodes. At the
end of every podcast or attached to every podcast,
there's a free group frequency calibration. So
there's tons of work for free that you

(47:39):
can access. I give a YouTube live every month,
where I give a group frequency calibration for free and I talk about what's
happening in the moment, give context to it from
a frequency perspective. Why are things happening in
a big, much bigger perspective on the planet? So
that's free also. So we spend a lot of Time at Spiroc
Luminosity. Creating content that's free so that people

(47:59):
can start to access this work, and see what it's like
and if it feels like it's the right thing for them.

And really, I mean, I can speak for myself. You
become hungry for more. Absolutely. Once
you dive into that pool, you're
like, oh.

Good.

You know, and again for myself, like, I've. I've
experienced a lot of that and then. And
probably you too, like, you get busy, you're doing stuff, you're running a business,
you're, you know, traveling, etc, and it's like,
oh gosh, I need to. I need to get back there. I need
to get back there. Like you, you. Yeah, I feel like,
like your spirit craves it.

Oh, absolutely.

Because even though, like we have our internal
noise that goes on within us and
just like you said with phones and the
television, there's. There's a ton of
noise out there and in here and
it gets. It's so loud sometimes
that it's. It's exhausting. And I feel like that's
where overwhelm and illness

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and all of that can happen at that
human level. And it's like, if you can just get past
that.

Yeah.

Or it doesn't, it doesn't cling to anymore. It's like a. Like
a Teflon pan, right?

Exactly.

It's just like a non stick. It was like, yes,
right off you be like, well, did that happen? I didn't.
I'm curious, do people. Do you find that there
are people fearful of losing
their old selves? Even if they're. Old selves
are unhealthy and toxic
and with toxic relationships and a toxic

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lifestyle. Or do they fearful of that?

Yeah, absolutely. I think a lot of people, when they
begin. Or a number, I shouldn't say a lot. A
number of people do have that worry because they don't want things in their life to change.
Right. And so. But what will happen is that
when. Okay, so remember I talked about that sphere surrounded by that duct
tape. When the duct tape stressor come off, the
sphere starts to vibrate faster. Of course it does. It doesn't have the same
weightedness around it. So as you say, the sphere

(50:02):
is like, well, something just happened. Like I'm vibrating
faster. Like I feel better, I feel more free. I want that.
Because you want to vibrate higher. I mean, it's just
the way we are as humans. We like what it feels like when
we vibrate higher because everything starts to clarify. We feel
better in Ourselves, we eat better, we make better choices.
The people who show up in our lives are different. Synchronicities start to

(50:23):
happen. You're like, whoa, life is starting to feel kind of amazing,
right? And it might be slow at first and you might not notice it. Just like I
didn't notice that I wasn't even freaking spreadsheeting, you know, at
first. But then you're like, wait a minute, wait a minute, what's happening? Things are starting
to change in a way that I hadn't expected. And the funny thing
is, when you start to release your distortion patterns of fear,
that attachment to who you used to be

(50:43):
starts to just drop away. You don't even have to try, you're just like.

And you almost don't even notice it, right? You're like, did I just
become a new person? I didn't even realize.

Exactly. Yes, exactly,
exactly. And you know, it's funny because people will say things
like, you know, even what it is that I like has
changed, you know, like the movies that I used to like has
changed. Now, that might be scary for some of you, but if you think about
it, there's so many flavors out to
experience in life. It just means you get to experience
different parts of the buffet of life, right? You're like,

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oh, didn't like China before? Delicious.
You know what I mean?

I'm like, I look at life as a buffet. Like, you like it, you go back
for more. You don't like it. Yeah, but that's true
too. As you evolve into someone different,
you get to experience other things in the world
and in different ways that you would have experienced as
the old. And we should be evolving. I mean, I can remember
I had someone say to me like years ago, almost

(51:40):
in a very negative way, they're like, oh my God, you have seen
changed. I was like, aren't we. Wait, I'm
like, aren't we supposed to change?
I'm like, I'm confused because,
oh, I'm supposed to change from m. Like the 10 year old
girl that I was, you know, or the 20 year old woman.
Like I'm supposed to change. And going back to what
we were saying. If we allow ourselves to, to give

(52:02):
ourselves handing that permission slip to
yourself and going, I give you the right
and the opportunity to change into an even
more magnificent human being.

Absolutely. Yeah. And it's funny, you know, because sometimes
when we change, the person who says, well, you've
changed, what it is is that you're mirroring to them that
they haven't. Yes, I Know. Yes, you know, and
don't necessarily like that. Yeah.

And it's also getting outside of their comfort
zone because before they could predict,
you know, your reactions or what you would
say or what you would do, and now it's like it's totally
thrown them off.

Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Exactly
what you're saying. Because you being a certain way for them
gives them certainty as to who they are. Right.
but if you change all of a sudden they're like, whoa, who
am I now? Because this person, the
dynamic change. Exactly. Yeah. Not
everyone's up for that. I know,

(53:00):
right?

This is so good. I was so excited when I woke up this morning
and I was like, oh, who's on my list of peeps to interview
today? And I was like, oh, yeah, I love
to me like these, like these deep conversations
about the things that you can't see are
my kind of conversations. Love it.
Because that's, to me, that is the key, that is the

(53:21):
key to unlocking all of that, ah,
whatever it is. Your health, your
relationships, your wealth, your everything,
everything, everything.

And you know, also I'd like to add the gloriousness
of life because, you know, we often
feel like life is happening to us, right? So I mean, your show is
the midlife makeover. And when you are, especially if you're
a female and you hit menopause, it's like life fricking ends
for you. I don't know what the hell happens. Like, you know, oh my God,
menopause is happening.

I know.

But the thing is, it's kind of amazing
and it's a funny cultural phenomenon that's
happened where as we age, women are supposed to become
less desirable because we're not like the 20 year
old vixen.
But let me just tell you this. If you release your distortion patterns,
you start to recognize your power and you start to step
into the wise woman. Which has more to do with being

(54:12):
authentically you and just expressing you like, look, we're all
flawed, okay? Like, there's nobody drinking to
everybody. That's just the way it is.

Sometimes my arm jiggles, you know, like, whatever,
who cares?

And the thing is, like, we get to be more
quirky and funny and weird and like, yes, we
screw up and that's okay, you know, but you own your
screw ups and you can grow from it. That's the wisdom.
And so the thing is, I feel like as more women
start to come into this knowingness that like,
I actually don't need to be seductress, I can be.

(54:43):
That's Part of my package. But, like, there's so
much more to this
aspect of us that really comes into
this knowingness of who we are. And it's a
growing knowingness. Right. So I'm not saying you're static. Of course not.
You're always changing. But you become okay with that change and
okay with the fact that you're not perfect and you don't really care so much. And

(55:05):
thank God, you know.

Yeah. I think about, Which. It's one of my favorite books,
the Untethered Soul. Right. But really,
it's like. It's. It's the untethered
human being. It's. It's on that right to
be. That's the soul I feel is
already untethered.

It's absolutely.

It's the duct tape that's covering the soul.

Yeah. Yes.

That. That doesn't allow you to be, like.
There's that, like, going around, you know, the. Be your
true self. You know, become your authentic. Like, what does that
mean?

Exactly?

What does that mean, to be your true self?

Yeah.

If you're covered in all that duct tape and it's weighing
you down, removing all of that.
And I think we've just gone about. Myself included kind of.
You go about it the wrong way, but you're. You're being taught
by other human beings of how to relieve yourself of that.
But it's really. It is on such an
easier, lighter level.

Yes, absolutely. Yes. Yeah. And
I feel like that's what a lot of people come to me. They're like. I
feel like they won't say this at the beginning,
but they're a little lost. Like they're looking for themselves.
Right. Because there's all this conditioning. Like, we're told to be a certain way.
We're supposed to be this. We're supposed to produce that. We're supposed to
create that. Whatever. There are all these stories of how we're supposed to be,

(56:20):
but if you didn't have those stories, who would you be? And
that freaks a lot of people out because they're like, oh, my God. That means I have to express
who I really am. Who the hell am I really? Right. And that's
the beauty of releasing these patterns, because then
you get to be you without all the conditioning, without
all the distortion. And you don't worry about it so much. You
just get to be like who you are. And it's funny, because

(56:40):
I have this client. She is a, She's a. She's from
a very wealthy family, and she had to go to all These parties,
like they were, they just have to go. Okay. That's part of their thing.

Yeah.

And she would hate going to them because she's like, I always feel like such
an idiot, right? Because, like, I'm awkward, I
don't enjoy them. I feel like I have to put up a front for the family,
like this whole thing. So she started frequency work
and. Okay, let me just say that going to parties and being
herself was not on the list of things that she wanted to receive from frequency work.
All right? That, that's not what she came for. But weirdly, what

(57:10):
happened, as she started to release her distortion patterns of low self worth and
receiving love and a whole bunch of other stuff, she started
to feel more okay
being her and she wasn't afraid to be her.
And what was amazing was a few months later she wrote in
saying, I can now be at parties and enjoy
myself. Do I have to be the most gregarious, funny person in the room?

(57:30):
No, it's not about that. Can I just be me and
not have to shrink into a corner and hide? Like, I'm just
me. So if someone comes and talks to me and we have a delightful
conversation, that's wonderful. If I'm going there and
enjoying the food, that's great. If I'm just standing there by myself
enjoying the music, that's okay. I don't need to be surrounded by five people.
It's all okay. And I get to just be

(57:50):
me. Now, to the outside world, does
that make a difference to anybody? Like, does anyone notice that?
No. But to her, is that a huge difference within
herself? Of course it is. Right. So like
you say, it's just about this really, really wonderful
thing that can sometimes feel elusive of who
am I? Who am I? And how can I

(58:11):
express myself in a way that feels best
to me? And what can I do to, have that
even be more magnificent? You know, even though it's flawed,
it's not about perfection, as you said. Right. It's just about
how do I be more me? And then by doing that,
all these other people light up around you because you give them
permission to be them. Plus, your resonance is high

(58:31):
and they get to entrain to that too. So, yeah, it's all
awesome.

You mentioned, Deepak earlier, and I had gone to
so many of his retreats.

Oh, really?

Love Deepak. And I even got certified at the Topra
center in yoga. Yeah. I mean, yeah.
And I can, and I've read all of his
books, but there's one statement he said to Me.
That always resonated with me. And it finally,
like, it's like that key, like, you know, a little bit.
And, I was at a retreat in

(59:01):
Carlsbad, and he came in the room
and he had these cute glasses on and these red
Converse tennis shoes. And he sat in front,
and I'm, like, sitting on the floor, like, listening to him,
and he goes in his cute little Indian accent, he's
like, you have to feel your way through life. I
was like. I remember thinking. I was like,

(59:22):
feel my way through.

My way through life. What the hell does that mean?

And then I walked. We were on break, and I
walked outside and I took my shoes off, and I was like, walking through
the grass and just feeling the grass, and I was like, feel my way
through. I kept thinking about it and I was like, oh. I was
like, yeah. Like, instead of thinking our way through
life, instead of concentrating so much and trying
so freaking hard, just feel your way through. Like, just.

(59:48):
Yeah, just flow with life instead of
fighting with it and trying to. So hard. Like, we try.
So, I mean, it's great that as human beings, we're like,
yes, we can do this, but maybe just
relax a little bit, you know, like, get into
the stream and just flow, like, row, row, row
your boat gently down the stream, you know, like, yeah, and just
relax. And, ever since that. Ever

(01:00:11):
since he had said that, I was like, Something just clicked in me that it
made sense. And to me,
like, this is another moment for me personally. Hopefully the listeners
feeling the same way. But this is. This is a
nice. A nice shift for me,
I'd say, mentally, energetically, and.
And frequency wise, it does something like.

(01:00:31):
I feel. I do feel more elevated just from
having this conversation. I do.

>> Karen Cheong (01:00:36):
Thank you.

>> Wendy Valentine (01:00:37):
Yes. It's very motivating to me.

Thank you.

On a deeper, deeper level. Okay, so where can we
find you? Because, I mean, I know how to find you because I've already, like,
been on your website and I love it.

Well, thank you. I appreciate you being you.

Say it.

Yes. So you can find
me@sphericalluminosity.com
and we have a bunch of stuff on YouTube,
so if you want to watch my content, learn more about what it
is I'm talking about. Start to listen to those group
frequency calibrations. You can do that there. You can also
listen to us on Spotify or
anywhere. You can find podcasts if you want to listen to

(01:01:13):
my, podcast. But the best place to start is really
sphericaluminosity.com and then also, for Your
listeners.
I've created a quiet your mind group
frequency calibration to just help people
come out. You know, like you said, we try so hard, and we're worried about a lot
of things, and we're a little overwhelmed, and there's a
lot happening in the world, and it feels like we're more and more out of control.

(01:01:34):
So how do you get to that state that you're talking about where you feel your
way through life? It actually requires some space and
thoughts. Space. Excuse me. And distance from your thoughts,
which are, like, loud and persistent and once
again, loud. I don't know.

Yeah.

Notice this. It's loud. You know, it just creates all this crap
within us. So if you can start to. It's not about quieting your
mind completely. Just get enough space from it. You're like, okay,
yeah, all right.

Just give it. Get a break from m. Yourself, you know?

Exactly. Yeah. So.

Yeah, Well, I will definitely. I'm gonna put that in the show notes,
and then I'll put that on the blog post as well.
So thank you so much. Thank you,
Karen. You're awesome. You're so. I'm not. I mean, it's
great that you sat through nine hours of meditation.

So you.

Can, like, teach us this. This is awesome. So thank you.
And thank you, Sedona. I'll be hiking in Sedona today,
thinking of you.

Oh, lucky you. Say hello to Sedona
for me.

Thank you so much, Karen.

Thank you.

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