Episode 2: What is The Purpose of Life? Understanding Soul Growth & Raising Consciousness

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Welcome to the Naked Soul podcast where we dissolve the barriers between spirituality
and the human experience.
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the lows, the glimmers and the triggers.
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the complexities of being human.
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If you're ready to shatter the notions of spirituality being all love and light
and embrace radical honesty and acceptance of your soul's journey here,
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Welcome back to episode two of the Naked Soul podcast.

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And today we are talking about the soul, soul growth, and the path of raising consciousness.
So with these topics, why it would be helpful to understand them,
basically it gives you a better understanding of why we are here,
what the purpose of life is,
and when you have this understanding, it can help you navigate life with greater

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ease and less suffering.
So Lori, when you do sessions with clients, a lot of questions that they have
are, what is my purpose? Why am I going through this?
What am I here on this life, in this life, to do?
Yeah, a lot of the times what brings a client to a session with me is that there's

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some form of suffering or blocks that are happening in their life that they don't understand.
They don't know how to move through it. They don't know why it's happening.
And they're really in this place of powerlessness and really feeling in the dark.
And a lot of times the question comes through of like, yeah,

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well, like, why is this happening to me? Or why is this happening to me again?
Because a lot of the times, I don't know about our listeners,
but life can feel a little bit like Groundhog Day.
Going through the same lessons over and over, not once again.
So much repetition and maybe different faces, but very similar relationship

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patterns and trauma patterns.
And so when we're feeling this helplessness of like, oh my God,
life is just happening to us, then we're really in our powerlessness.
And all of my teachings basically come from more of like a bird's eye view perspective
of why we're here as a soul experiencing life in a physical body in order to grow.

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And so I always say that growth comes from learning lessons and lessons present
themselves as challenges.
And the easiest and most tangible way for me to explain this is Is really to
look at it as being a school setting. Right.
So we're here experiencing life on earth. So that makes earth our schooling ground.
And we're experiencing life as a soul, but in a physical body. Exactly.

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Okay. So soul plus physical body equals what we would call like your entity, right?
So you are here as Shauna. I am here as Lori.
That's the experience that we're having in this life. Right.
And a lot of people have like a conceptual understanding of I have a soul or am a soul.

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But I think it's less talked about like, well, what is a soul?
Because we think of it as just being kind of abstract when actually the soul
is a powerhouse of energy.
So it is a energy being that is eternal.
Eternal and after this lifetime you'll
have another lifetime and another lifetime and another lifetime

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and I also always love to say like this is
what I believe these are my teachings this is what resonates with me and I always
encourage people to find what feels best for them take what resonates leave
what doesn't exactly and that doesn't mean that at some point in time something
new might not resonate with you because I've definitely had that on my journey where the

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first time I heard something or the second time I was like, nope, I don't like that.
Yeah, I'm not ready to believe that like these bad, quote unquote,
bad things are happening to me for a reason.
But sometimes just as you grow and evolve and keep living, you start to see
how these truths are maybe showing up in your life.

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So the soul is eternal. And when we talk about the soul separate from the physical
body as just being this powerhouse of energy,
g it's all love and light it is it
was created from god consciousness and when
we are outside of the physical body we have access
to all knowledge right but if you think about it's like okay well then why do

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we need to grow yeah yeah why can't we just have all this information why can't
we just like stay up there in soul world having all this information and i liken
this to being a baby as well.
When you are a baby, you are as close to your true self as you really ever will

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be because you're not, you don't have all this conditioning,
societal conditioning, conditioning from your parents, conditioning from traumas.
But you also are immature, right? And I always say at some point in time,
your child is going to hit another child or bite another child,
not because there's anything wrong with them, but just because they don't know any better.

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And it's only by teaching that child why we don't do that, that the child learns, right?
And that learning the lesson being the growth.
So it's the same for our souls. when
our soul is in soul world we have access to all knowledge
but not because we have worked or had
lived experience to gain that knowledge meaning we don't truly understand it

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it's not stored in like what you would almost call like your vibrational like
your vibrational frequency so you enter the physical body you open your eyes
and you're like i have no idea why i'm here.
Yeah you forget you forget yeah i don't
know what i came here to do and you also don't

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have all the answers so the physical body creates
this limited perspective for the soul so we
no longer have access to all knowledge yeah and
it's encouraging us to grow so the
process is always like forgetting to remember forgetting to
remember so we came here to forget so
that we could learn and remember our truths yep the

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truths being that we are all love we
are all light but again we can only do
this through the process of not having the
answers and going out and finding them right so we
have the teaching ground we have the soul
as being the student soul plus physical body being

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the student we would say that our teacher is god
source universe whatever it is that you resonate with
knowing that there is always a higher
power that is guiding us and with us
we're never alone ever but then
what's missing from the school setting well there's the grading system first

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of all so when we go into school we have grade one grade two grade three and
so in this soul setting that would be the dimensions first dimension second
dimension third dimension and the dimensions are levels of consciousness and.
We are all everybody on this planet is currently experiencing life in the third dimension, right? and.

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Just like each grade, grade one, grade two, grade three, has kind of a building on the lessons.
In the third dimension, we're currently experiencing duality. Right.
And duality is the balance of the darkness and the light.
So there's 50% non-loving emotions and there's 50% loving emotions.

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But in the third dimension, we're actually all programmed to focus on the negative.
Yeah. Because that's the forgetting that we've come here to remember.
Our truths and there's three
things in particular that we struggle with in
the third dimension and that's overcoming negativity
and by overcoming negativity

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that means staying positive in despite of the negative this isn't bypassing
your emotions this isn't not feeling it this is the remembering because there
is just as much love on this planet as there is hate there's as much positivity as there is negativity.
And it's a choice to move back to that despite the circumstances.

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Yeah. And I always think too, positivity equaling love, right?
Where it's like even amidst darkness and struggle, you can offer yourself love.
You can maintain a loving perspective.
You could offer love to others. And I feel like that would be overcoming negativity,
right? You're choosing love.

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100%. Yeah. Just this last weekend, I brought my stepkids to Canada's Wonderland.
And it was a very stressful day where lots of things were going wrong.
I lost the electronic tickets. I was almost going to have to pay,
you know, for five tickets instead of three.
We got trapped in a storm, like all this stuff was happening.

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But I still managed to, you know
woman in front of me in line was like could my kid ride
with you he doesn't have an adult to ride with him yeah
and then we're in line at tim hortons and the
woman in front of me or behind me turns to me after i
paid and said i only have cash and they're only accepting credit card would
you pay for my order and i'll give you cash yes so despite and these are small

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examples just the ones that have most frequently happened to me recently there's
a choice to despite the stress still act out of a place of love.
Yeah. And all challenging emotions and challenging situations actually need love.
That's what they need. Yeah. And for example, in my own life,

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it's like when I was struggling with depression and anxiety,
and with that can come like frustration and anger and anger at the world.
But if you're staying in that place, it doesn't actually help you get out of
it. You know, it just continues to fuel.
Yeah. So, yeah, like you're saying, it's not...
Ignoring your feelings or spiritual bypassing

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or anything like that yes we have to dive deep
and feel and go through it which we talked about in episode
one but then at the end of the day all of those
challenging emotions and all those say stress and wounds need
love yeah and sometimes it's
easier to give love to other people than ourselves yeah i

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find that a lot of people both struggle with like the self-love
and the self-compassion yeah so sometimes
recognizing these little moments that you have an opportunity
to act out of love for another person it's like it just reflects back onto you
and you can kind of see like oh wow i'm a good person yeah right and not coming

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out of a place of like trying to be a good person because i think that at the end end of the day,
what you really want to get to is just that these are kind of ingrained patterns
in you through practice of like, yes,
I hold the door open for people, right?
Yes, when I see something that I like in somebody else, I'm going to compliment it.

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And through practice of, you know, you're in your negative state of mind and
you get out of that and you look for the positive and you look for the love,
you start to see it more and you start to act out of love more easily.
And so this is how we grow through this challenge of, okay, well,
we're programmed to focus on the negative, but we can teach ourself to shift to the positive.

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The other challenging thing about the third dimension is that we believe that
sight is our most dominant sense.
So many people are like, I have to see it to believe it. Yeah.
And the truth is, and I'm
sure you can teach about this in maybe this episode
or another other episode when it comes to co-creation law of attraction is

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that it takes longer
for the physical to manifest yeah and it
all starts with the emotional yes right exactly so you have to believe it before
you can physically see it to even have the physical manifestation of it yeah
like we we actually have it all backwards yeah which is a mind trip it really is this is why

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people struggle with law of attraction and manifestation because they're
like well i don't want to have to like think it
before it's actually reality like it's not my reality but
that's actually how the universe works the
universe works by responding to your energy your energy your internal state
so yeah yeah it's a mind trip it really is and the last of those those three

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lessons of the third dimension being overcoming time. Mm-hmm.
Because, again, because we're in this physical body and we have this physical experience,
we're seeing day turn into night and we're seeing the leaves change and we're
seeing the seasons change and we're seeing our faces age and it creates this
perception that time is really real.

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And because of time we start to
make comparisons to other people where they
are at this age and we make all of
these stories about why we're not where we
think we should be that's the important part is where there's not
enough time in the day there's not enough time in
the day get all this done i feel like it creates like a

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pressure that then actually affects your vibration yeah
and then that actually affects like yeah what's coming
into your reality yeah and it's keeping us
away from the truth of divine timing yes and
also that because we talked about the soul being
eternal like the soul actually isn't in
any wrath right we create

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such a rush and like a pressure and it's actually doing
the opposite we do and i mean i'll just call out probably every listener right
now how often does your rushing actually serve you exactly because and this
is something that I have to remind myself all the time as somebody who got speeding
tickets frequently when I was younger.

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It's like, okay, every time that I'm speeding and rushing to get somewhere,
because I believe I need to be there right now. If I got pulled over.
How much further behind would that put me? Yeah. Right. And these are like the
little things that I used to remind myself that like, oh, actually to speed
up is to slow down. Right. Yeah.
Because when we rush, we make mistakes. Yeah. When we're rushing too,

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and we're in that stressful state, we can't hear divine guidance.
We can't hear our intuition as well.
When we have a long to-do list and we're rushing, rushing, rushing in a stressful state.
Yeah. You're actually, I feel like you feel like
you're trying to get things done to move forward but I
actually feel like it's doing the opposite because you're not

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in tune with like your soul and yeah it's the brainwave patterns too right I
always like the way can you explain that yeah so when we are in a stress state
we're in the high beta brainwave activity which looks like if people are listening
then you can't see my hand,
but I'm like drawing a bunch of jagged lines up and down like mountains basically

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over and over and over again, but very, very jagged ones and squished together.
And when that's happening, that's our brainwaves when we're stressed.
And when we're in that state, I always like to describe it as the universe and
your soul, your higher self is trying to speak to you and drop like divine guidance down.
But if your mind's in this jagged state, I picture

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it as like divine mind guidance almost like hitting one of those
mountain edges and like bouncing right off back
into the ethers and i picture like
your spirit guides going like no whereas if we do practices that actually slow
our brain waves there's so many different ones that do this right meditation

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yoga going outside you're just laying on the ground laying on the ground just
laying like Like even on,
I love just laying on the floor and like listening to calming music.
That would put your brainwave in a slow.
But basically, the EEG, which would be hooked up to you if like scientists were
looking at your brainwaves, they would see a slower, more like wave-like.

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Instead of this jagged mountain, it's now like a nice flowing kind of wave.
Picture like a pond, right? A nice, calm pond. This is what your brainwaves have become.
And then divine guidance and like clarity can just drop down into the pond.
And you're like, oh, there's the answer. there the imagery

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that they just gave me is actually like a polygraph test
and because when you're lying it goes
like that yeah it's very good right so yeah it's
actually like when we're thinking out of our mind and we're feared
and we're stressed out and we're kind of lying to ourselves because
a lot of times the stories are just stories yeah
not the truth they're not the truth it's like yeah that jaggedness and

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then when we're like telling the truth and we're so sure of ourselves it's
just this like straight line and that's the soul yeah
yeah so such a great way to think
about it yeah but yeah so that's the current level of consciousness that we're
experiencing life in three challenges in this dimension yeah yeah but within
every grade there's the same subjects that we're learning so we're always learning

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english we're always learning science science, math, all of these things.
So similar to that, there are seven areas of soul growth.
And when we talk about these subjects, areas, whatever you want to call them,
it's important to remember that growth for a soul is growth and emotional maturity.
Right. So just like we talked about this baby who is immature.

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The soul before it starts entering life in a physical body and having these experiences
is very immature right so and
I'm sure everybody right now can think about at
least a single person in their life that is
less emotionally mature or less emotionally available than them right yep and
it's not to say that there's anything going wrong there but just like in school

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we have some people who are better in math we have some people who are better
in science experience because they've done it more times than us.
Yep. And they've just grown.
And so we're here to help those people not by actually trying to like lift them up by just being.
I always teach my clients that we're forever the teacher and the student. Yeah.

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Right. I am the student in life and everybody in my life is my teacher. Yep.
But I am, nobody is my student, right? Because just by me being, I'm teaching.
Right. Yeah. So you don't actually have to do anything other than just live.
Right. Which is so beautiful and simple and hard to wrap our brains around.

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But so the seven areas are love, compassion, patience, gratitude,
humility, joy, and sharing in no particular order.
And so by writing down these seven lessons and looking at them, well, two things.

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You can go back to those three areas that we struggle in the third dimension,
negativity, sight, and time.
And you can ask yourself, okay, what's the situation that I'm struggling with right now in life?
And can I see how it relates to these three struggles? struggles, right?
And then you can go a step further because I'm just going to burst your bubble.

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It's going to relate to all three of them. You're going to notice how all three
of these are interwoven and kind of feed off of each other.
But then you can kind of extrapolate from that the theme, right?
Does it always come down to love, whether
that's self-love or loving somebody else is it
patience is it humility right

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so when we have these when
we have this information we can start to
look at our struggles and actually see this
is what it's teaching me yeah and this
is coming back to the truth of actually my experience
here is not just one of of suffering

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meaninglessly yeah the suffering
is contributing to a growth yeah a growth and
all i have to do to crack the
code on this lesson so to speak to kind of put an end to that groundhog day
once and for all is to say oh every single relationship is trying to teach me

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that i don't love myself right or every single relationship is trying to teach
me that i don't have compassion for myself.
And when you understand that, then it just becomes so much more simple to shift
those thoughts into thoughts of love or thoughts of compassion.
And the work that I do with my clients is ones of going to the root cause of what was the event that,

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What was the trauma that disconnected you from self-love, that disconnected
you from self-compassion?
Because the soul knows these things, right? Right. But the ego mind doesn't.
And so what was the event? What is the memory that is stored either in the conscious

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or the subconscious mind that That is attracting these experiences because we
can only attract what is within us. Yeah.
I know that that's like really hard to hear, but I attracted every toxic relationship
because I didn't love myself.

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Yeah. There was a wound of lack of self-worth, maybe boundaries.
Yeah. Lack of self-respect. Yeah. And so it's so important and powerful to kind
of identify that first event and reparent and heal,
which will be great when we're talking about IFS to give the listeners some

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tangible tools on how you can heal that inner child wound.
But after we heal that inner child wound, it's
all about taking accountability for our actions
because the initial event that happened into
you is out of your control but where we
are continuing to suffer in life now is a

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choice right and that's hard to hear yep but i always say that pain is inevitable
and suffering is a choice absolutely right so that first painful event was inevitable
it was out of your control it was guided by god for your growth but it is now
a choice to say that isn't my reality anymore more. Yeah.
And that's what I'm like not choosing to believe basically.

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Like I feel like so much of these growth lessons, especially love,
I want to say love in particular is really asking you, what do you believe about yourself?
And what are you going to choose to believe about yourself? Yeah. Yeah.
And yeah, this has just become, it's become so obvious to me where it's literally

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the universe is waiting for you to choose that you are worthy.
That you are enough.
Yeah. And to remember, again, it's not like forgetting to remember,
to remember that we aren't separate from love.
We aren't separate from compassion.
We aren't separate. It's just this illusion created by the physical body,

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by our sight being the dominant sense, that we are separate, that we are different.
And we'll dive into that more in future episodes in terms of separation and
oneness and non-duality.
We can have a fun episode on that. But I always love that one song lyric of
like, everybody has a story that could break your heart.
Because it's so easy to look at other people and perceive them as being separate

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from you. and to project your stories onto them.
And then once they tell you their story and you can relate to it or you can
find some compassion for them, then that's not only the doorway for us to build
healthier relationships, but for us to start to love ourselves.
Because again, when we see ourselves in another person,

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And a lot of times I find it's so much harder to speak negatively to somebody
else once you know their story than it is to speak to yourself, right? Yep.
So yeah, it's just so powerful. Yeah. So let's go through these just quickly.
So all of them, the seven lessons, often they have to do with yourself and they have to do with others.

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So love, loving yourself, also loving others.
Compassion, self-compassion, but compassion for others.
Even like joy, finding joy and happiness within yourself, but being able to
celebrate joy and happiness for other people.
Yes. So love includes a lot, right?
Because it would also include, yeah, like self-love, self-worth.

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Setting healthy boundaries, personal power.
Would you put that into love? love you know I
would say that for us to be in our power is
like combination of all of these interesting cool
yeah I love that but yeah as
you talk about like loving ourselves and loving
others and kind of that mirror of it it

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it really isn't I know we'll touch on it more but
it comes back to that perception of separation because everybody
really talks about like oh you just have to love yourself right you
just have to like have all this stuff within yourself yeah
okay but every single person in
your life is a teacher for you and is a reflection of

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you and is you right because
we were all created from the same stream of consciousness so
if you can't love another person if you
can't have compassion for another person yeah you still
don't truly have that love or compassion for yourself yeah because
you view them as being separate from you right but to
touch on it each one of them briefly love i

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think is actually the hardest one to explain but within love is self-love as
well and when we talk about love we still don't even talk about it at the the
highest vibration that love actually is because love is authenticity. Interesting. Yeah.

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I remember having a girl on one of my retreats and she was like,
actually, scientific studies say that the vibration of authenticity is higher
than the vibration of love.
To which I said, well, what is our gauge of what love is?
Because none of us on this planet it we're truly taught unconditional love right
right so our idea of love is still based on what we believe is deemed to be lovable okay right.

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When you are your authentic self, which would be your true self.
Your true self. Your true essence. Your true essence.
Yeah. That little goofy girl or boy,
right, who was four years old and went up to everybody in the street and would
say the wildest things and put on whatever clothes and just didn't care what

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anybody thought. Goofy. Just yourself.
When you were that version of yourself, you were your authentic self.
And you didn't have any wounding yet
to say well maybe somebody won't accept this or love this yeah right
you fully loved and accepted yourself that
is the highest and the truest form of
love is being in your authenticity right which

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is like not a natural expression of which is and it's
actually our natural state yeah that's so funny yeah
it's getting back to like we just forgot it yep absolutely
because we had it at one two three four years old
and i know that some of us are trauma started a lot earlier yeah
so i want to recognize that but for a lot of us
we had it at those very young ages yeah forgot it

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and then we and we got taught all these different things as
to why it's it would be unsafe to
continue being our authentic selves basically and it
can be all different things that taught us this right but we get taught to
kind of shush and or don't do that or
come do this and shame guilt fear yeah
yeah and a lot of times it's the fear right like our parents love us so much

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that they don't want to see us hurt because they don't want to hurt yeah and
so they put their fears on to you of well if you are this way xyz will happen
to you right Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Compassion is a tough one as well because a lot of people can confuse compassion with empathy. Yeah.

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And this might trigger a lot of listeners, but that's okay. Empathy is a trauma response.
Interesting. Yeah. So when we are in empath,
right, where we're saying, oh, I feel everybody's feelings very strongly you
can only feel what is alive within you right you can't feel a wound that you don't have,

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Interesting. So when you're in empath and empathy, and you're picking up on
everybody else's feelings and feeling their feelings, it's because you're trying
to save yourself through saving them.
Yeah. And it's, yeah, when you're empathic, and you feel everything,
it was like a learned safety response.

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A lot of empaths were children of narcissists.
So they were trained to have to To pick up on the emotions of the parent.
Right. Yeah. And navigate their. Yes. Exactly.
So like nine times out of 10 to empaths, attraction, narcissists,
because this is where the wound was originated.

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Interesting. Yeah. Because they're so good at picking up because they had to be for survival.
Yeah. What kind of mood are they in? Yeah. And what are they feeling? Yeah.
So yeah, it's a trauma response. And I always like to say too,
there's levels of everything, right?
Yeah, we can be extremely empathic from almost an extreme response.

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But then there's all different like levels of empathy based on like,
your own lived experience and what happened.
Yeah. So it's not like you're an empath or you're not. It's like,
there's all these varying kind of colors, you know? Yeah.
And I mean, a lot of the times it comes from being highly intuitive.
Right and we just haven't learned

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how to create that space between part of
my language our shit and their shit and of course
you couldn't as a child right especially if we're kind of sticking
with this situation of if you were the child of
a narcissist the world revolves around
the narcissist right so there was never anybody to
teach them you're not responsible for mom's emotions

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you're not responsible for dad's emotions so that
inherent belief and conditioning in them is i'm responsible for
the way that everybody else is feeling yeah so if they're
feeling something and i'm picking up that they're feeling i have to figure out
a way to make them better right because i'm responsible for it yep and i think
a lot of us relate to this on again like you said like varying degrees yeah

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but compassion for me is the antidote to empathy and what is true True compassion.
True compassion is understanding that every soul.
Chose their experience that they're having here and that nothing is going wrong. Right.

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It's happening for their soul growth.
Yes. Yeah. So when we're in empathy and we're looking at somebody else and we're
saying, oh, poor them, we're making them a victim. Right.
And when we make them a victim, we're forgetting that they are being guided by God.
Yeah. That they're having this experience to grow.
Yeah. And we're actually not helping anybody ever by taking pity on them, right?

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So having compassion is holding that space and saying, I see you.
I see what you're going through.
And how can I help you without taking away your opportunity to grow?
Yeah, and what they need to get from the situation. Yeah.
Having compassion is really just like sticking around.

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And being available for this person and showing them that
you care yeah and not you
know because a lot of people when we're in empathy as well are enabling yeah
and we're taking away the opportunity for the person to like do the hard thing
right the deep dive exactly yeah which means we're taking away all of that reward

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that they're going to get on the other side of it I see that too,
with a lot of parents that come on to our retreats, and their children are going through hard times.
And they just so desperately want to make it better. And they want to know how to make it better.
And yeah, we always say to them in different ways where it's like,
you don't know the reasons that they're going through this or what they can

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find on their own, you know, and how it becomes their own beautiful journey.
And I just think of mine, you know, in terms of struggling so much with depression,
anxiety, but finding it within myself to go seek help and seek answers and like,
find the ones that like genuinely spoke to me.
Because yeah, my parents didn't know what meditation was or anything,

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you know, it was, I was always like the youngest one in the group finding meditation
facts many, many, many years ago. go.
But I just think if I hadn't have found that path on my own,
it would not have led me to where I am today.
And that's the thing. These things always have to start within us so that then
we can trickle them out to other people.

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And so having that compassion for yourself of, oh, I went through all of these experiences.
I had these traumas, but I'm giving myself the compassion now that I didn't get as a child.
And then you see the positive effects that comes out of that.
And you're like, oh, I'm so much better for like having like,

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this is the lesson. Yeah. Like, this is what I learned from it. Yeah.
And yes, I still have healing work to do. We all still have healing work to do.
But I've gotten to a point through doing the work where I can honestly say that
I don't regret a single bad thing that happened to me. No, me either.
Because they put me on this path to get here. Right.

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And so when I can see that for myself, I think the clients that I've worked
with for a long time, like I'm talking about the clients that I worked with
for like a year now, they know that sometimes if shit's hitting the fan in their life, I'll smile.
Yeah. And I'll be like, this is great. And I was just going to say that myself,
where I've come to a point in my life where I realized that any challenging

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phase or like anytime something feels sticky or hard or dark, I'm like, ooh.
There's some lessons here that I'm going to learn.
Yeah but to learn them you have to do the
deep dive you know you have to look at what
you're feeling why you know you
have to do the healing work in order to almost

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reap those lessons but you do reach
a point where you get excited about it right like even us.
Beginning of 2024 once we could feel like.
Feel that shift happening yeah and it's
scary a little bit because yeah oh things are
changing yeah but also it's like well what's
going to come out from this right because i know

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what good has come out of my darkest days
thus far right so it's always something good on the other
side yep and that's really
having compassion it's like being there for the person through
their hardship not trying to fix it not trying to take it away and
just having so much like belief and.
Faith and compassion for them yep and like

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holding that for them i love that yeah and
patience patience i think we don't need
to get itself we don't need to get too much into yeah
yeah you know the other thing with patience as it
ties into time is just remembering that your soul is
not in a rush right yes so
that's why it challenges us so much

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because the body like forces us to slow
down right but the soul
never tires but it's also never in a rush yes
and so there's kind of this like it
almost creates like a cognitive dissonance between like i
feel like i should just be able to go go go but my body says no yeah absolutely
because that forces us to slow down and learn patience yeah the one time i feel

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like where we're actually could be the operating off of too much patients are
almost like false patients.
Is when we are in misaligned relationships and we are kind of holding out for things to change.
And we could have a whole episode on this, but I feel like that can be one place

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where we are acting like patience is a good thing.
And sometimes it is, and there's obviously lots of work to do in relationships or that can be done.
But I also think that sometimes we are
sitting too long yeah in them yeah for
that i would say you know you start deciphering the difference between patience

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and complacency yeah and then that ties into self-love yeah back into love again
yeah right and it's just learning to at the end of the day what's going to help you with everything.
Is tuning into how you feel in your body yeah exactly and if you're feeling
unhappy or depressed or anxious,

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then that's a sign that, okay, this isn't really love or patience or compassion or any of those things.
And if you're having these feelings within, but you're not bringing them up,
you're not having difficult conversations, you're not looking at,
you know, reflecting on, is this my stuff?
Is this their stuff? Is it a combo?

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But if you're not doing that, then you're falling into the complacency. Yeah.
Yeah. It's just continuing to tune in into
like how am i really feeling yeah what's actually am
i being honest with myself yeah right because if i
was being honest with myself back in like 2020 before
my relationship ended i was like well we'll get
married maybe we'll have kids but like we're gonna get divorced

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one day you just had
that gut feeling right so why why
was laurie keeping herself in a relationship where she
was already planning to get divorced one day yeah right because
i was too afraid to leave because of my low self-worth
and self-love right and once
you recognize that then you can't unsee it absolutely yeah yeah gratitude gratitude

(40:25):
is actually gratitude is like gratitude for this amazingness of life you know
and it's like becoming awake to the truth.
Of life and like god and
the experience of being yeah and consciousness it
can be quite complex because it also means

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having gratitude for again the quote-unquote bad things
that we would say yeah are happening yeah because every
experience is our teacher yeah and to
have the desired outcome the
big shiny happy thing at the end that we are that's
easy to be grateful for yeah we have to
be grateful for the path that it takes to get us there as well

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yeah yeah but people love
to use gratitude to bypass okay in
what way and i'm just going to call out all the gratitude gratitude journal
gratitude practices are a great thing they
really are but again you have to tune into your
body and ask yourself if it feels real yeah because

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if we're saying that we're grateful for things that we don't actually feel grateful
for we're not really doing the work we're trying to bypass the work well the
other thing we can do is we can write out all these things that we're grateful
for but we're not looking at the pile of stuff that's under the carpet exactly yeah exactly.
We're just like oh let's sunshine rainbows

(41:53):
good day furry dog all this stuff and we're not I do love doing you know I do
love doing that but you have to make sure you're looking under the carpet it
too yeah you know it's a you know I always say like there's a time and a place
yeah and if you're if you're at work or you're on call with a client and you're getting triggered.

(42:13):
It's probably not the time for you to like
be going through this process of lifting up
the carpet and sweeping up under the dirt while you're trying
to facilitate for this client right yeah yeah so in those
moments you're at work or something yeah butterflies rainbows you
know coffee soup of coffee all these
pretty little things that i'm grateful for to get you through it yeah

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but then the important thing is that when we have
the time and the space to decompress and say oh what was that like
where was that trigger coming from that's the
doing the work yeah and again we can say
that we're grateful for a lot of things and I hear this with my clients
all the time and I'll call them out on it where you can see this kind of like
forced smile and they're like but I'm grateful that I have a job and it's like

(42:58):
if you aren't happy with your job right now like you don't have to fake being
grateful like why don't we move through that at anger first.
Why don't we look at where all this is coming from?
And if we're not looking at the things that are feeling misaligned in our lives
or the trauma that we're holding on to, the challenging emotions that we have,

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no amount of gratitude journaling is going to,
make you feel good long term.
No. Yeah. You're going to have to do, well, I don't even want to say you're
going to have to do a lot of gratitude journaling because you'll just,
you'll be doing it, but it won't be feeling like anything's shifting.
We need to go deeper than the surface.
Yeah. And gratitude is really an alert, like embodied experience.

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I mean, not even to say alert, like remembering, right?
But when we are in our trauma, when we're in our stories, when that's in our
nervous system, it's in our fascia, it's in our subconscious.
No amount of trying to hack that with your brain and positive journaling or
gratitude practices is going to change what your body and your energetic field is putting out there,

(44:08):
which is like, no, I'm not really grateful for the fact that let's just say
somebody just lost their job.
And it's like, oh, well, be grateful that you still have a roof over your head
right now or something like that.
And it's like, but no, I'm not really grateful for that because I just lost my job. Yeah. Right.
So sit with that emotion first and really feel it.

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And then you can start to ask yourself, okay, well, if I lost this job,
God never takes away anything that's meant for us, right?
So I always like to say that rejection is God's redirection.
Okay, so this job wasn't meant for me.
So what is it that I really want to be doing that is in alignment with me that I've been

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sitting on that I've been complacent yep great to
tie that into your early lesson because I was
complacent in this job that's why God removed it for
me yeah and so then when you actually give yourself that opportunity to sit
to feel to kind of decipher and go through it then that's when you can actually
start to see the reason behind things and this beautiful opportunity and then

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that's when you can say oh actually like I am grateful that this job was removed from me.
But if you just say, lost my job, find something else to be grateful for. Yeah.
You're, yeah. That's a form of like bypassing, bypassing and not going deep. Yeah.
And true, true gratitude. So would be to have gratitude, almost zooming out

(45:41):
and looking at the whole journey, you know, and almost looking at that coming
right back to like soul growth.
And it's like having gratitude for how all of this is set up.
And it's almost guiding us into healing and going deeper and into soul growth
and starting to see that.
100%. And just for all of our listeners, I always like to share personally,

(46:03):
so we're not just these like people in a seat preaching to you.
But I remember having a terrible pause, working at one of the restaurants that
I worked at, and he was making his.
Personality so obvious like the truth of his personality which was that he was a very selfish,

(46:25):
narcissistic person this person actually and
i'm not going to say owes me money but never paid me some of my money from working
there and i remember my mentor at the time saying you should be grateful that
he's showing you who he really is ah and i was like that sounds so stupid

(46:46):
that sounds so stupid right
and because a to just say
you should be grateful there was like a there was a bypassing that
was happening meaning like I missed the step of seeing okay it's because I'm
not meant to work in the restaurant industry anymore yeah right but once I could
see that once I could see that God was making it really obvious that I need

(47:08):
to get out yeah I was really grateful because it pushed me out of a place where
I didn't belong anymore. Yeah.
And so now, because I've been practicing this for so long, it doesn't take me
long when bad things are happening to me to say, okay.
Okay this is going to be a beautiful opportunity something really great is

(47:28):
going to come out of this yep but i remember being like
fuck you this bad thing that happened i'm not grateful
for it i don't have to be grateful for it just for
anybody who's like listening right now and kind of in the
thick of it absolutely yeah kind of
sit with these practices that we just talked about of like
feel it and actually start to ask okay if

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this thing has been removed from my life where was the misalignment
and where's the opportunity to be aligned and it's
interesting that you said like that incident helped to
move you out of the restaurant industry because my experience was
very similar with nursing where it was a critical incident
that finally I reached because oh it

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was giving me all sorts of signs you know in
nursing where you know you're working shift work and I had
insomnia and I just knew that it wasn't what
it didn't like light me up fully right I had these nudging
feelings but it's in terms of financially comfortable so to think about move

(48:29):
leaving that so I needed it was finally another critical incident because they're
easy to happen in nursing but finally one happened where I was like it really
woke me up where I was like like, whoa,
the healthcare system does not, their goal is not like to protect the nurses in these situations.
It's almost a system that just... Or even the patients.

(48:50):
Yeah, or the patients. Yeah. It's not set up in a way that truly protects the
workers and the patients.
And I realized that that was kind of the final wake up call for me where I was
like, you know what, this, this may not be worth it in terms of,
and in terms of like trauma as well.
I was just like, a lot can happen and in this job and is it worth it if it's

(49:11):
not actually what speaks to your soul you know what lights you up yeah but yeah
terrifying to make a shift but and to tie some of these lessons together like
you had enough self-love yeah yes yes,
You had enough self-compassion to parent yourself through the guilt of doing
that. Yes. And you had the patience to persevere.

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And I can tie in another one, overcoming sight in terms of the challenges,
because that's when, that was the period where I was really practicing manifestation.
I was so, I was practicing so strongly to believe that what you put out into like the
vibration that you're sitting in and what you're putting out matters

(49:56):
more than what you can see in your reality currently
yeah and I like diligently practiced that
for almost like well it's been six years now but
at that time it was like a year and a half of
doing that and I really practiced tapping which we can get
into in another episode but those practices like
got me through that transition basically yeah

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because there was so much fear yeah yeah 100
okay humility oh humility
humility is a big one they're all
big ones we said we were going to do this quickly i
should have known i i
can actually explain humility quite simply though in two phrases humility is

(50:43):
accepting that everything is given by god and humility doesn't come at a cost
okay what does that second one mean so there's been this kind of,
martyr-esque messaging that has been passed down to us generation to generation
that teaches us that to be humble is to be small. Right.

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Yeah. Right. Absolutely. So blue collar work is more humble than white collar jobs.
And that how that plays into the martyr is this self-sacrificial piece of yourself
because you believe that that makes you a better person and that people will
like respect you more for being that way.

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So whether you were born piss poor or filthy rich, God loves you all the same.
Yeah. You're equally worthy. You're equally worthy.
And it's accepting that everything that you were given, you were given by God. Right.
So if you were given this life, you were given this life by God.
Yeah. If you were given the rich life, you were given to it by God.

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And it all goes back to soul growth.
Yeah. Because that's the experience you need to be having. and
also I always say two sides of the
same coin there's no better or worse
than these experiences there's just a different
nuance to the lesson okay so a
simple example of this as we as we pertain to rich and poor and it'll trigger

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but that's fine poor people have an easier time building relationships oftentimes
why a couple reasons a lot of people feel really good about themselves if they're
helping somebody who's less than them. That's fair. Yeah.
And we know that they aren't after anything because we don't have anything to

(52:34):
give. So we actually believe that they like us for who we are.
Okay. Where people who are, we'll just talk about born into money.
Oftentimes, well, one more thing about not being born into money is that because
you haven't been given answers.

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You tend to build resiliency. These people tend to build resiliency.
And that means that because they weren't given things, they were,
again, had the opportunities to learn these lessons for themselves.
Their growth wasn't taken away from them.
A lot of people who were born into money didn't have the same opportunities

(53:18):
to grow and discover themselves.
A lot of them feel like they were just put in this box.
And okay, you're just going to run daddy's company one day, right?
And so there actually tends to be a huge lack of self-esteem in people who are
born into money because they haven't been given the opportunity to believe in themselves.

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And also a lot of times they have a hard time trusting people because they think
that people are just after them for what they can provide for them.
And then we have this in-between experience of the people who started here and moved here.
And they're the ones who are experiencing the
full spectrum of it to recognize that actually neither is
better or worse interesting right because as

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i started to grow past my you know helplessness and my poor financial state
the people who were helping me now feel insecure that they can't help me anymore
right and now there's some jealousy and some tension and we We see this without money as well.
Just in general, a lot of times when people are... You can see it with healing and stuff too. Yes.

(54:25):
A lot of times when people are growing, the people in their life start to feel
like they're helpless and their insecurities start to come out and those insecurities
get projected onto other people, right?
So humility is the absence of judgment entirely.
Nobody is better or worse. Right. Whether... They're all just equal. Yeah.

(54:47):
There's no real healed and unhealed. Like we're all just here for this journey.
And none of us are meant to know what another person's journey is. Right.
Right. And so when we're practicing humility, it's just accepting everything
as is and not making it mean anything. Yeah.
Neutrality. Yeah. Yeah. This person is not better than me.

(55:09):
I'm not better than this person. and the
ability to kind of because this will tie into
the next one of like feeling joy as well
because a bigger fear than like
the fear of failure or any of that is really
the fear of being seen and so a lot of
people are afraid to be seen in their happiness and their abundance and

(55:29):
then their joy yep right but humility is
accepting that if i was given this it is
mine yeah not because i'm better than anybody
else just because i was meant to have this experience yeah and
so just that one last point is okay well but laura there's so many people out
there who have all this money and all this power and just aren't good people

(55:52):
right right they wouldn't be good people without it either so as it pertains
to money because i find money and humility.
Really kind of shine a light on each other money
is an amplifier of what is already
within right right if you
are a good person when you didn't have money you'll be an even better

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person when you do have money right because it's
just going to amplify what's already there okay so how can
i have money and remain humble you don't
become attached to it you just allow
it to enhance what is innately within you i love that
yeah and then as it
pertains to joy and happiness i'm not

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going to say that we're meant to be happy all the time in this
life but i do believe that you can reach a point where again even when bad things
are happening we don't feel the absence of happiness because we tend to think
about it as it's like this um like mouse that That we're trying to chase.
Yeah. It's just escaping us. Yeah.

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Right? Yeah. Where that's not actually the case. Happiness is always around us.
Right. At any moment in time, no matter what is happening, you can choose to
see the glimmers instead of the triggers.
You can choose to see the reflection of, you know, the light as it creates rainbows on the glass.

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You can choose to see the dew in the grass in the early morning.
And find happiness in those little moments. But we think that happiness is this goal.
Right. So we externalize it, we put it over here. And we say to be happy, I need to be over here.
To be happy, you need to be in the present. Yeah, that's it.

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And then I would say as well, that when you work through different triggers,
and get to the root of them, and practice healing those wounds within,
then you can have experiences, say the same experience could happen before you
look into it and you get this reaction because it comes from wounding.

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And then you do some inner work and then the same experience happens and you
don't have a such strong of a reaction.
100%. And we've talked about this with examples. And
I would say that's a great example of just showing
how and that it cannot affect you as much and
you stay more in a state of neutrality yeah right where it's like ah this happened

(58:24):
but it's not hitting all my inner wounds and I'm able to like maintain this
more state of neutrality and a sense of happiness I would say I used to be this
person who would spill coffee first thing in the morning and say fuck it's going to be a bad day.
The day is ruined because it started off with a spilled cup of coffee.

(58:45):
And now, like I just told you about this last weekend, it's like I can have
all these hard conversations and all of these things happening while I'm on
vacation and not make it ruin my vacation anymore.
And again, it's coming back to the suffering as a choice.

(59:06):
So it's really the more that we practice
coming back to love like feeling the feelings but
coming back to love we shorten the period of time
that we're in our suffering meaning that we're recognizing
that happiness is actually always available to us
we just have moments where we're not experiencing it yeah
right but people think that we have moments where we're

(59:27):
experiencing happiness and the majority of the time we're
not right yeah happiness is always
available we have moments when we're not experiencing it but
it's always there yeah it's not this goal yeah
and then sharing is moving out of scarcity and into abundance right so even
us having a podcast here and essentially giving away all of this free valuable

(59:53):
information where a lot of it can be found in our courses Right. Right.
Is having the emotional maturity and the understanding that actually this abundance
is available to everybody. This knowledge is available to everybody.
And that by sharing it, it's not going to take away from me. Yeah.

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Because when we are, when we haven't grown in sharing, when we're still really
in that scarcity mindset, we like hold on to things really tight.
Yeah. And it's a really tough way to live to almost feel like everybody's out to get you. Yep.
And I even remember like, because again, I was a chef for 10 years and a lot

(01:00:36):
of people like, oh, like, would
you share my recipe? Like, I've never been afraid to share my recipes.
Yeah. Always like, yeah, here, take it, use it, whatever.
Yeah. Right. But a lot of people hide their recipes under lock and key because
they don't want somebody else to do it or potentially do it better than them.
Which, again, you can see how that ties into some of the humility as well.

(01:00:58):
So although they are separate, a lot of them really play off of each other as well.
Awesome. Yeah. And then so do we want to move into how this relates to raising consciousness?
Yeah take it away so soul
growth from in a lot of my

(01:01:20):
teachings I teach it it's funny because you do like a really nice zoom out with
a lot of your teachings and mine are also going there which is really exciting
but I love to also zoom in which you do too and when we zoom in on say this lifetime time, right?
We are looking at I love to teach the scale of consciousness and the path of

(01:01:44):
raising consciousness.
Yeah. So when I found when I found it in a nice diagram, of course,
that made my type A personality and structured personality delighted.
Because if anyone hasn't looked up the scale of consciousness,
I highly recommend googling it, Google the scale
of consciousness and you will find a nice little diagram with all the emotions

(01:02:08):
bound at different levels they're measured at different levels so basically
everything is energy all energy has frequency yes and all energy has frequency
and this includes emotions.
So basically, all of the emotions that are moving throughout us and within us

(01:02:29):
and that are stored within our tissues,
and coming from the past as well, because we store a lot of emotion within our
bodies and our energetic field from the past, all of this has a vibration to it.
And more, I want to say, challenging emotions are lower frequency and they are
more dense. So this makes sense as to if you're struggling with depression,

(01:02:52):
then you can literally feel heavier.
Yeah. And a lot of emotional, this has been researched a lot lately, coming out in like Dr.
Gabor Mate, he talks about how, and the body keeps the score, right?
All emotional energy can manifest

(01:03:13):
itself out into the body in specific conditions, things like that.
And I think the best way to tangibly view it is something like a tumor in your body, right?
Where emotional energy can literally manifest into a physical tumor.
And that is showing then density, like that has literally become this in your

(01:03:35):
body and it is so dense, right?
Yeah. Even tears, I always say, is like, Like, what more proof do you need that
emotions can manifest physically when like you feel sad and your eyes start leaking?
There's water coming out of
your eyes. Yeah, it has become a manifested substance. Yeah, absolutely.

(01:03:56):
So when we are, when we have things from the past that we're not looking at,
and we're storing a lot of these emotions within us, yes, we can literally feel
heavier. lethargic, more dense.
And then as you do different healing work, which I love to explain it in my

(01:04:18):
little four part framework of things that help on the healing path.
The first one, I call them the four R's. So the first one is reflection.
So I really believe that in order to heal and to grow and to raise consciousness,
we need to be slowing down, which we talked about, and reflecting in some way,

(01:04:39):
like asking, why is this triggering me?
And this can be done through journaling, through slowing down and meditating.
Through just asking those important questions or asking, like,
why isn't this feeling aligned with me anymore?
But basically you need to slow down and you need
to start asking yourself these deeper questions right

(01:04:59):
yeah and then the second one is release
so emotional and energetic release when
we have these denser emotional energies within
us they need to be felt like we've talked about
and they need to be released in some way
so great practices for release are emotional
freedom technique EFT tapping uh breath

(01:05:22):
works a great one but then there's so many other ones
that people wouldn't think about like even journaling is a form
of emotional and energetic release things like
boxing yelling yelling even just
like yeah yeah i'm making a wall yeah pushing
up against a wall banging on the floor all
of these like if you feel anger sometimes it needs to be

(01:05:43):
expressed rest and release writing out in a safe
and controlled manner yes we have to
put the caveat yeah which is what
retreats are great for where you can explore all of these emotions and you can
practice release in a safe and controlled way and breath work is a great one
for release in terms of i find it is one of the greatest modalities to release

(01:06:08):
things that you didn't even know were are within you. Oh my God, it's so wild.
Because we've had countless experiences on retreats and our day retreats when
we're facilitating breathwork and clients when they're sharing at the end,
they just say like, this came up, I didn't even know that like this was bothering
me or grief from something.
I remember my very first breathwork class, I relived grief the moment I found

(01:06:34):
out my My brother passed away and I relived.
I had like a same crying episode as I did.
When I first found out but it was I had unprocessed grief
within me that needed to be released again yeah
and when I'm stressed sometimes when I do breath
work right away now it can happen

(01:06:54):
like on the first song where it's like you just start crying on
the first song and it gets out and then it can shift into
like a wonderful practice sometimes of like just
more peace and bliss and happiness I also just
wanted to share that sometimes like because we do
store it like in our fascia yeah i know
people who have even had like very very

(01:07:15):
repressed traumas come into
their awareness while they're like at the gym yeah or
working out or doing yoga yoga yeah yeah just to kind of share like to be aware
of that if anybody listening has experienced that like it is normal and it's
a beautiful opportunity to just be with that emotion that is because Because basically, like,

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if it's coming up, it's ready to be relieved. Absolutely.
Yeah. Yeah. Some people can be afraid of practices like breathwork because they're
like, what's going to come up?
But I always tell people, if it's coming up, it means it's ready.
Yeah. Ready to come up. It's wanting your attention.
It wants to be looked at and released, basically.
Yeah. And another great one that combines these two, reflection and release.

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As well as the next one, is the inner child work and the internal family systems.
Because it really walks you through the reflection process of looking at,
okay, this is triggering me in some way.
Why? Like, let's dive deep. What parts, and we'll have a whole episode on this,
but what parts are getting triggered here and why?
And then it can guide you into what's called an unburdening process of these belief systems.

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The third R is reprogramming. So reprogramming your mind in ways.
And I actually like to refer to this now as actually more coming back to our
true essence, right? It's,
reprogramming yourself back to love. Yeah, unprogramming. Unprogramming,
unlearning, unconditioning. A lot of non-dual teachers call it the unconditioned

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mind, which is our true essence, basically.
So practices that have actually helped me reprogram,
manifestation was actually a big one, which I always like to teach people that
manifestation Manifestation isn't necessarily like pretending you're something.
It's actually starting to feel more of your true essence.

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And then what you can see is reality actually starts to shift.
And then you do actually start to feel that way. And it's your true self, you know.
So a lot of people don't like manifestation for that reason.
They don't like feeling like they're faking something.
But you're actually so stuck in your wounding and your programming that that's why it feels fake.

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Yeah that's what i was gonna say because we talked
about it with the gratitude right yeah if it
feels like you're faking it it's an invitation yeah there's
a little deeper into that wound yeah exactly and
then reparenting is a great way of reprogramming as well which basically involves
healing the wounded parts within you and from a place of your true essence and

(01:09:59):
providing to them the love the encouragement the compassion basically all the
things the seven and lessons.
It's funny the connections we make on like when we're just chatting with each
other. We're like, oh yeah, that connects.
But you're basically, your true essence is actually reparenting your wounded
parts who are kind of stuck in younger versions of yourself and guiding you

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back to your true essence.
So that's reprogramming and the fourth one is receiving.
So I feel it's my People struggle with this. Yeah, if you.
I like to say it. It's like, no, when the time that you spend on healing work
and inner work, none of it will
go unanswered. That's kind of like how I like to say it and present it.

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Sometimes when we're doing healing work, it doesn't feel like we're getting
something right in the moment, right?
We're like, I'm doing all this work. Where is my moment of like, where's happiness?
Kind of going back to chasing happiness.
But every single moment that you spend And in healing work, it will get answered,
whether it's in that moment, you can have a shift in feeling something, right?

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You can feel a moment of more inner peace, love, or whether it's actually three
weeks later, or whether it's actually like three months later.
And this is why sticking with healing practices over a period of time ends up
having this like cumulative effect.
And then you you can actually shift your life quite radically.

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And you're receiving, basically. You're receiving, you're reaping the benefits,
the rewards of all that work.
And I like to say receiving can come in all different forms.
It can come in, like I said, it can come in a feeling of more peace.
It could come in synchronistic moments. So when I started practicing manifestation,

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holy cow, how interesting things started happening that I was like,
that was weird. That was weird.
And like you start meeting even the way we met and you start meeting people
and you get connected to the right teachers, the right next thing and things
can just feel like they start to fall in your lap.
So I really feel that when you start to do this healing work,

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when you also start to form a relationship with spirit source,
God, whatever people refer to that power as, um,
If you take time to form a relationship and start communicating to that energy, you will receive back.
It was such a small but fun, beautiful story from one of my students when I

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was running a round of surrender.
Where I was talking about that, that everything that we want,
we will be given, we will be provided for.
Right and it's just kind of asking and following the
nudges and trusting yeah and this woman comes on
to the call the next week because my example previously had
been that I needed to repot two of my plants at home I really

(01:13:00):
just didn't want to go and buy the pots and I took
my dogs for a walk that night I heard to turn down a different street that I
wasn't going to turn down so I did and there were two pots sitting on the road
there you go and so I was like thank you yeah right Because the key is to actually
accept that what you asked for was delivered for you and it's here for you to receive it.

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Because I could have easily just been like, oh, I'm going to walk right past them.
And so the next day, she was getting on the subway to work and she was so thirsty.
And she says, I sat down in a seat that I don't normally sit in like this area of the subway.
And I turn over and there's an iced tea bottle sitting next to me.

(01:13:45):
And she was like if the seal
cracks like if it hasn't been opened i'm gonna drink
it yeah and so she did the seal
hadn't been cracked it was just this brand new iced tea bottle that
somebody else bought and forgot on the train right and that's how god works
and i think people really struggle to believe this but if you can just play

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into the illogical for a while yeah and you and i talk about this all the time
of like if you could just give it three months like a little three Three month challenge.
Three month experiment. Yeah. Always tell clients this. Right.
It's almost like let's have a little competition with my brain.
Yeah. Ego. Yeah. Like, let's just see. Yeah.
Because this is how God works. It's like he's omnipresent.

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Like here all the time with everybody all the time. OK. So this woman is thirsty. She needs a drink.
So I'm going to have this person buy a drink and forget it on the train.
Yeah. So that she can find it. Yeah.
And I know there's a lot of people who are like, that sounds crazy.
But I promise you, just try it for long enough and you'll see that that really is how it works.

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We are all being guided and the way that we receive is through others. Yeah. Right.
Even if you're working like a nine to five job and you think that your company
is signing your paycheck, like it's not coming from your company.
It's coming from all of the individuals who are
paying for you know the hydro or paying

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for the schooling or whatever that is yeah right
our abundance is always because it's shared right yeah because god is guiding
us to be this way yeah and that really happened with a lot of the retreat properties
that we've held retreat that when i started putting out to the universe that
I wanted to run retreats.

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And a few short months later, retreat locations were delivered to me,
like not even I didn't even have to go searching the majority of retreat places I have not researched.
They have literally come to me through like DMS and stuff like that.
And I'm like, so mind blown. Like what?
Yeah. And so this the four R's the reflecting,

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releasing, releasing reprogramming and receiving that
really relates back to the path of raising consciousness because
if you show up to healing work over
a period of time we like to say yeah the
three month experiment like really dedicate yourself for three months before
assessing like is this shifting anything if you do this over time you can see

(01:16:25):
a shifting of your level of consciousness And that's really been the case for
me where when I pull up that little diagram,
I can see, oh, yeah, back in my early 20s, I was really sitting at like the
majority of my energy was in this very depressed,
lethargic, anxious state.
Angry state. Well, anger is even a step up. Yeah. But over time and over the

(01:16:51):
years, I've really shifted to move into higher states of consciousness.
Yeah. Yeah. Same. I was in the, you know, resentful victim.
Yes. Which are also very, yep. Shame is one of the lowest vibrations on that scale.
Yeah. So anytime you are criticizing yourself, anytime you're shaming yourself,

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you are literally feeding your body the lowest level of energy.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think that's going to be a lot for our listeners to do and digest.
That was a lot of info. So that was all about the soul, the soul growth and

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the path of raising consciousness.
So thank you everyone for joining us for episode two, and we will see you back
on the Naked Soul podcast.
Yes, and if you are interested in joining any retreats, we have a few retreats coming up.
One in Lewiston, New York called the Soul Expansion Retreat happening November 22nd to 24th of 2024,

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as well as a few other international retreats that can all be found on our websites
linked in the description of this episode.
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