Welcome to a special Father's Day weekend episode of The Parker's Couch with hosts Cameron Parker, Carlon Parker, and their newly inducted co-host, Carl Parker. Dive into a lively discussion about the NBA finals, with a deep analysis of Luka Doncic's performance and the Boston Celtics' strategy.
Join the Parker brothers as they scrutinize the controversial Olympic team selections and discuss Caitlyn Clark's role in addressing racism in sports. The episode also delves into recent legal battles surrounding reparations and the historical significance of the Tulsa Race Massacre.
The episode wraps up with thoughts on Trevor Lawrence's new contract, the media's obsession with Aaron Rodgers, and a powerful message about fatherhood and leadership in the African-American community.
Don't miss out on this engaging mix of sports analysis, social commentary, and heartfelt reflections. Tune in and enjoy the ride!
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Music.
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Is the parker's couch with cameron carlin
and carl the parker brothers some material is for a mature audience sit back
and enjoy do y'all think that there is a responsibility for caitlyn to be vocal
i don't think it's a responsibility for to be that's gonna be vocal but you can't be blind,
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and that like is not fair that's the issue i have girl come on now you've heard it somebody's told you.
Music.
What's up? What's up? Welcome to the Parker's couch and our special Father's
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Day in Juneteenth. Happy Father's Day.
What's up, brothers? It's your favorite host, Cameron Parker and his co-host, Carlin Parker.
And his other co-host.
We can name you a co-host at this point. At this point.
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I think I'm going to redo an intro for a new co-host.
The most handsome, the most debonair, the eldest. The eldest.
Carlin, do you think he's put in enough work? Has he put in enough work?
I bet them so. He's lasted long enough. He hates them enough.
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Okay. Why?
I think we can do it. We can do it. We can officially name him a co-host.
And maybe we might even have to redo a logo at some point.
Now it could be all three of us.
Well, that sounds good.
We got some things to talk about. Some things to work out there.
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We'll figure it out. We'll figure out that Brandon thing. We'll figure it out.
And the branding, of course, is going to launch us into that space.
That's right. And we're doing well. Thank you all, too, for the listeners out
there. The numbers are doing great.
It's consistent. And we enjoy doing it.
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We enjoy talking about everything we're doing. And we enjoy having you all out there listening to us.
And I'm going to enjoy ragging on my brothers on their little prediction. Here we go.
Dallas winning. Newcomers.
I should never bet. I should stick with my motto and never bet on Dallas for anything.
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I don't know what I was thinking. I led you into a ditch. You did.
I'm sorry. Follow my big brother. He's my hero. and he followed the A&I.
I should have followed the eye test.
Yeah. My eye...
Told me that one Luka Doncic cannot play defense.
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Cannot. We all knew this. And was that healthy?
He's like 80. Is he even 80%? I don't even know. I don't even know.
And even if he was 100%, he can't guard.
So, and I will say this.
I slept on really how talented Boston is.
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And how deep they are they are so deep 7 to 8 guys well really 8 guys that when
Porzingis is healthy 8 guys that can contribute in a big way because you got Hauser,
Pritchard you got Tillman that will come off whenever we got to give you credit,
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you did call that one now that Porzingis injury that came like well you did.
Oh that porzingis cannot stay healthy no no but yeah i'm with our model with top players,
With Tillman, that's nine. Yeah. Yeah, with Tillman, that's nine.
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What's our motto with tall players? We don't trust tall players. Oh, yeah. This is true.
They're just going to be hurt. They're just going to be hurt.
You can see in life, you don't see a bunch of really tall people walking around
later in life, right? They don't last very long.
It's just not. The body is not supposed to be these.
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It's just not common. Stop it. Stop it.
Average height I'm supposed to talk massively tall like you know we talk about
seven footers now we got we got JP that's close to that we got the.
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He need to cap it off right where he is right now right where he is exactly
once you hit over that seven it's a whole A whole different – that's just a
whole different ballgame. It's out to the Giants territory.
And everybody – It's a different animal there. It is. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, what do we think about this series, y'all? What happened?
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Because I remember you two telling me very clearly that Kyrie was going to go
off. Now, them first two games.
Did we say that? Them first two games, y'all was like, oh, he about to give
it to Boston. He right back in there with the first two games.
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I give him the third game. He played well. He played really well in the third game. Yeah.
I'm ashamed of our prediction there.
My prediction, I'll stand on it. I did say Kyrie was going to give it to him. And I'm.
He laid a dud at both.
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Both. Both Boston games. Both. It was horrible. He looked horrible.
I'm most afraid. Yeah. He looked old. I was like, how old is Kyrie again?
He looked very much like the latter end of his career in the first two games.
Yes. And especially in game two, Boston was like, please beat us.
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Please come and take this game. They had to. I don't even. Come on.
You can have it. I don't say we want it.
Exactly. Yeah, I don't. Because that's one thing about Boston.
We say this all the time, Carl. They will let you back in the game.
They don't have to stay up. They don't even have a game three. They was up so much.
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30 points. They were up 21, and Dallas brought it back to two.
Back to two in no time. In a matter of like two or three minutes at that.
It's because they shoot too many devilish threes, as you said,
Carlisle. Yes. I can't stand it. It burns me up.
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But that's Missoula's.
That's their philosophy. That's their philosophy. Yeah.
What do you guys think about the coaching battle between Kidd and Missoula? Hmm.
I was surprised. I thought Kidd would have the upper hand.
You're not out on Missoula. For some reason, I have not been high on the rule.
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I think he made a lot of adjustments in the game.
But I think he has done a good job of making the right lineup changes at the right time.
Leaving a hot man on the floor. I think some of the coaching tips he gave them
to what they were reporting was helpful.
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You know, saying things that they needed.
They'll be tough and don't overpass you
know there's an option i haven't have a habit
of overpassing which gets on my nerves like they'll pass up or i'll lay it all
the time i'll lay out for a brick warner yeah yeah so to me i thought that was
good advice but to me i was surprised that jason kidd was getting his head beating
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on the sidewalk i'm definitely surprising to me,
I will say I'm surprised.
I thought Kidd was the better coach coming into the city. Yeah.
However, Joe Mazzulla has absolutely out-coached Jason Kidd. Absolutely.
No question.
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Well, and part of that is Luka Doncic. Let's talk about it.
Part of that is because all Mazzulla has done is picked on him the whole series.
Oh, he's just picking on him so badly.
They go right at him. They always get him in the pick-and-roll action.
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Which Tatum and Brown just drive him to the basket every time because his feet are terrible.
He has terrible feet and no want to on the defensive end.
Agreed. I mean, in one respect, I can't say that Kidd was so thoroughly outcoached.
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It's just he doesn't have the personnel to defend.
True. You know, all they do.
Where's his bench, y'all? Where is Tim?
Well, that's why I went with Weston because I feel like Dallas' bench,
beyond lively, they kind of just, like, disappeared. They disappeared.
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Nowhere. They haven't. I don't know. Hardaway is like a shell of himself.
Yes. They were big in the Timberwolves series.
That's why I thought they were really contended because the bench,
I thought the bench could match Boston's bench when they were playing in the previous round.
But they have disappeared this series. I would say this.
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Luka has not relied on Jones, Lively.
And gafford yeah as much as they they did previous series yeah you know those guys were in series,
they are you know you can't have jones having two points and gafford having sits in home games yeah,
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like i'm really confused because i
what happened to all the lobs and the hot flying and just
this that's Luca the ball a
lot so I've been watching their sets and when
when those guys slip it's normally out of his hands but he's holding it on the
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ball a lot and he's Bob they're down and shooting percentage is terrible yeah it is a high High volume.
And he is firing them up. Yes.
He is the sole reason they lost that third game. Yeah. Absolutely.
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Kyrie was cooking that game. And they went away from Kyrie. He had 20 in the first half.
Yeah. And was cooking the second half.
But Luka kept pounding the rock. I didn't get it. I didn't understand.
And then Luka falling out. Luka and – Those fouls were ridiculous.
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Can we talk about that? How ridiculous those fouls were. Just because he's mad. Lazy.
And lazy and tired. Just – This one's great. Why doesn't he get the most time
talking to the refs and complaining?
And he's trying to draw all these crazy fouls on the other end.
And always falling down after shooting three-pointers and all this stuff.
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And then making these lazy fouls.
And then just sitting there complaining instead of being in the game.
I don't know. He's caused some valuable points.
There was that one or two of that foul. You remember, Cameron?
We were watching it at the same time when he dove in.
I was like, that's clearly a foul. They missed that. They missed that.
But he let that permeate.
And it just stuck within the rest of that fourth quarter. and he went hey,
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you know what, in the mind.
Like, he made some really dumb just tragic mistakes that cost him the game.
They cut the lead down and they actually had an opportunity to tie the game up or even take the lead.
They had a chance to tie it. Yeah.
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Or take the lead, like you said, bro. And what gets me is how petulant he was. I mean, he...
He literally went to the bench and cussed everybody out on the sidelines. Yes.
And effing challenged the foul.
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You fouled? Like, what? I just can't.
I can't. I mean. That was terrible.
Childlike behavior. Selfishness. Yeah.
Agreed. but you know Rasheed Wallace said something on his podcast he said this
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is nothing new true this is nothing,
new he said the NBA is at fault for allowing him to behave like he has behaved
the whole year and previous years just because,
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he is who he is, they let him get away.
That's so great. Yeah. Just think about Draymond Green.
Oh, please. He would have been teed up so fast so many times.
What would happen to him? We know what would happen.
Like what you said, brother, with Windhorse? Yeah, when he was going to to...
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He gave him the business.
He said, it's a national day. He's been following Luka for many years and nothing's changed. Yeah.
And he said, if he doesn't change that and change his body...
Hello? He's got to lose weight.
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I'm sorry. He's got to lose weight. That's what... Yeah.
He's like an office alum This is not going to work.
I mean, talent is going to get you very far. We see he's in the finals.
But to close the deal, to win, you have to do that extra layer.
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You have to have the intangibles. The intangibles win championships.
Like Brady, when he made a speech about greatness,
when he said, you know, being great, you don't really have to be,
have the most talent and be really special.
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You have to be consistent. That was so true.
You got to sacrifice. You got to give something up, Luther.
Something got to go. Beer, whatever, chicken wings.
Something got to go. He's consistent on growing that belly.
When Luca was talking to his dad in the Western Conference Finals,
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Luka was talking to his dad, had a beer in his hand. Yeah. Oh, I didn't even see that.
I remember that. Yeah, I remember that. It was so smooth.
He walked right on up there, took the beer out of his hand, and kept right on
getting up. Wait, who did that, you said?
Michael Finley. You know, he.
I don't remember this. Wait, no. I think I do remember this now. Yes.
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And he was up there.
And see it was live
and he's like
he just walked up to him grabbed the
beer and kept right on move so smooth
just like i'm i gotta protect you man yeah yeah you and me we getting ready
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to go to a finals and you out here chugging beer come on now come on now but
that just speaks to that speaks to who he is, man.
On the other side, what are y'all impressed by with Boston?
I know it is. I know, Carl, you threw out there about Jalen Brown being the best player.
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He's showing that. I mean, he's MVP right now. Yeah, he's MVP, clearly.
Well, I'm going to give kudos also to Derek White and Drew Holiday. Drew Holiday.
I love me some Drew. Drew Holiday, he's a championship player.
Yeah, that was what my... You said it, brother. Give me credit.
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And I was wrong.
I was wrong about that. Look at there. What does this happen in our society?
Someone said that there.
I was wrong. I said Kyrie was going to and Drew had locked him up.
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Drew has been phenomenal on both ends. Offensively, especially game two,
he really carried the team offensively.
It's that. Think about how many minutes he's played.
So in the first game, he played 38 minutes. Second game, 41.
Third game, 42 minutes. Oh, wow. And all of those minutes, no turnover.
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Oh, wow. I didn't even hear you play there. No turnovers? No turnovers. That's crazy.
So that tells you what they got when they made that trade.
Yeah. That's crazy. When they made that trade, I was like, they're definitely
going to be in the final. What was Milwaukee?
That's Milwaukee. Milwaukee. I don't know.
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Because they were tight, too.
That's why Green Freak was mad. He was mad as all get out. Yeah.
I think we all understand why.
That's part of the heart of the team right there. A key member of the team.
Uh-huh the defense he was the head of
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the snake yes he was the
head of the snake and he's he and derrick white they are the head of the snake
now well and you gotta put jaylen brown up there because that son of a gun can
play some defense boy and the yams he has had he's ducking all over for everybody.
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Whipping everybody, ducking over everybody. He has punished them.
What tickled me, though, was in the first game of the series, he just,
Lucas pocket like you yeah. Oh, yes when he picked this at me corn Yeah,
he picked them twice at midcourt and dunked it. Yes.
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I said This boy here. He has come to play.
He's cut his turnovers down to that big bugaboo like yeah Yeah.
He's handling the rock. He's doing a good job. He's shooting so much better,
too. He shoots the ball a lot better, too. Yeah.
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He's a 50% shooter. Like, his field goal percentage is 50%.
And, I mean, he's just so efficient, man.
And even though I hate this term in basketball about a two-way player because
it's not. Everybody's talking about a two-way player.
It's not how everybody gets to my plan all is the two is baby.
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But he really is he really is yeah well you see his assist i've been impressed
by his assist numbers too yeah he's like been getting like about over six assists like every game,
going with this. I'm like, what is this?
I got to give Tatum credit in this part.
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He's been extremely unselfish on finals.
He has. As opposed to the last one. He has, but he just had no other choice
because he shot terribly.
He already know brother does not see it for him at all.
No. I'll give him a little nugget. Your brother's like,
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no, we're not going to do that at the day no he played well last game i will
give him that game three is one game he he played my i was happy for him but
he did go he did go in the jason tater mode and the.
4-4. When they had a comeback, he got some fun for the comeback demise. He really did.
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He's small when the game gets tight. Yep. Yeah.
And that's just been his M.O. That's the evidence. I'm probably going to go over on what we've seen.
I mean, he does, he gets small when the game gets tight.
One for five at one for five, man.
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Crazy. And, And your boy, Luca,
why is he averaging more fouls than he is points in the fourth quarter?
He's averaging 4.8 points in the fourth quarter. How many?
2.8 in the fourth quarter. Wow. Wow. Small. Now, that's small potatoes.
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Come on, small fries. You supposed to be the second best player in the league?
2.8. That's who? Who said that? You know they always try to put him in Joker.
They always be like that one, too.
USA. USA.
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That's crazy. From the States. 2.8. I didn't know that. That's terrible.
And let me not forget, because y'all tried to clown on my man.
I love your thing. I love your thing.
Your boy. has been switching off and sticking with him on D.
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He's been D'ing up Luka too. I'm like, Luka.
Cameron, you've never been this right before, but, dog, you were spot on.
You were spot on. You were spot on, brother. You were spot on.
Well, I got the games wrong. I got the games wrong, but I let that go.
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This ain't going to be no seven games.
Is it going to be a sweep or a gentleman sweep? That's the question.
That's the question. It's a Friday night. They're about to tip off.
I don't even have my TV on, so I don't even know if they tipped off yet. Not yet.
That's the question. Will there be a sweep?
There's a high chance. There's a high probability.
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I want to say no because I just can't imagine someone getting swept.
And if I don't, like, I just, you got to show me something. You are a professional.
Like, Dallas has to win this game right.
What I have seen from Luka is that he pouts when he doesn't get his way.
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And when things go awry, that's when he goes in the shell.
And I have seen him, you know, just flat out give up. Yeah.
If I'm a Boston fan, yeah. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Carl.
I think this is going to be a challenge to his legacy.
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Will he up tonight you can't get swept if it this is a big old dinner his legacy getting swept,
it's a huge game this is this is a huge game for him yes what were you gonna say Carl,
my part of me is thinking that Dallas may win just because of that because this
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is like a character game you know what I'm saying like are you really a professional
are you a true star in this league.
But if I'm a Boston player, I want them to close out the night because we see the self-impact.
I know it's 3-0, but if Dallas wins this game and they pull off game five,
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the game's hitting back and back. It's a chance.
But I'm not banking on that happening. I'm not banking on that happening.
I'm thinking Boston may pull it out tonight. There's always a chance.
There's always a chance. I'm going five games now. I have a minimum of five.
I think Dallas is going to win tonight.
We'll see. I say the chances are slim to none.
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It's when the team go up 3-0 in the finals, they're 156-0.
Yeah, Boston's winning the series. That's for sure. No doubt in that. Okay.
All right. Just tonight.
Well, all right. We'll leave that there. There's going to be more to talk about for these guys coming.
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Should we do it now? Oh, God.
Should we do it through the other professional league on the women's side of things?
Here we go. Not the one that A.B.
Said. What did he say? It's work groups. That's what A.B. said.
Yeah, because I think there's some projections that the WNBA is going to lose
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$50 million. Oh, it's going to lose $50 million or something this year. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. It was so funny because the Post, whenever they were doing that, they were using...
Aja Wilson's picture and somebody else. I can't remember who else.
They were like, uh-uh, don't be sure. Don't stop showing Caitlyn now.
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Okay. Thank you. That was funny. But our girl, Caitlyn Clark,
y'all, like, it's just power.
Yes. Caitlyn has become our girl. She's the talk of the couch.
So it has – you got a problem, Carl?
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Not ours, Carlin. No.
Not Carlin. We have gone from the Olympic talk.
That just seems like it happened two years ago now.
Oh, that was, yeah. That was about five years ago now. This week.
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Now to all the where Caitlyn got questioned about her name being the face of racism,
and stuff basically and illegal people using her name basically to do the dirty
work, to do misogynist racist work.
Her first response was not very well received.
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Was it? Not at all.
Desjardins Carrington was definitely one who was out tweeting and had things
to say about Caitlyn's response initially.
Then a second question was asked of her again later at another moment.
They got more specific. And, you know, Caitlyn gave, I felt like, a decent response.
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The PR team had a talk. Yeah, the PR team had a talk. You know,
how people should be using their name to do it. Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Anyway, y'all, what? All right, let's go back.
Because I was curious this week of the lipid thing, though. What y'all thought about that?
Did anybody feel a way with Caitlyn? Let's talk about that first. Yes.
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She was not deserving of being on the Olympic team. All right,
Michael Wilbaugh. You sound like Wilbaugh. That's exactly how he started off.
I didn't hear Wilbaugh. I got to listen to that. I didn't either.
But she hasn't won anything. She hasn't done anything in the league yet.
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Now, obviously, she was a very good college player.
But professionally, this is something different.
Now, Devil's Advocate, it wouldn't be unusual for a rookie to be on there.
Her international play experience is zero.
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Zero minutes of international play. But how many girls are on that team?
What's the roster? Is it 12? 12, I believe. That's correct.
And who can take it off? So you're telling me she's better than the top 12 girls, stars in the WNBA?
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Is it about who's better, though? That's the key question.
It's about marketing versus about winning the title. It's about winning that
title. Oh, y'all know they're going to win a title.
You don't need 12 great players to win no title. The women, they don't even come close to the loser.
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It is nowhere near what the men's side is. They don't come last year.
They don't come for half. Yeah, boy.
But let's be real. We want to go out there and annihilate the competition.
Yes. The other thing is there's got to be camaraderie amongst the players.
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That's key i'm going to tell you how caitlyn clark is not a good teammate he's
not a good locker room girl about that on the last episode yeah yes i think
it's he is not a good teammate,
so and you talking about people being together for a long time over there when
they're playing in the olympics exactly in a foreign country that is not going
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to work not with we we talk about Now,
Luka being petulant. Oh, gosh.
What was he doing in a national play? They think he's getting roughed up now?
Wait. Exactly. He's got brains out over there.
And Cameron? Yes. Cameron, you have to understand, the WNBA,
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NBA, it seems like the NBA, the international teams are getting stronger.
They are. They are. It's not like it used to be. They are. There's some challenges
out there. You're correct.
I mean, but putting her on the roster, it's not like she was going to play that much anyway.
The only person – well, we'll see
what's going to happen with Chelsea Gray because she still has been hurt.
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She still hasn't even played a – she hasn't played at all this year still and
don't know if there's going to end up having to be an alternate.
Because I think Kaitlyn – I can't remember if she's like a first alternate or
a second – she's up there in the top as an alternate. it.
What about Erika Agumale? I know.
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Well, that's why I say it's not always the best players. Because she's,
Averaging 26 a game. You can have an amazing season. Absolutely.
But, you know, I think Rebecca Lobo wrote this down really well,
if y'all saw that, when she talked about how long this team has been in the
works and how – What was this guy here?
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And, like, you know, all the different times that they played together.
It kind of would have been unprecedented. in it. Because I even think when Candice
Parker and Sylvia Foles, she made it, and Brianna Stewart, they made it as rookies.
Well, Candice never made it.
They don't live with the team. No, her rookie.
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Okay. No, that was a travesty where she didn't make it during her... With Gino's years.
Yes. When Gino had that grudge against her. Yeah. When Candice was killing the
lead in literally the most player. And everybody and couldn't get on. It couldn't get enough.
That was the real travesty.
Yeah. I think even with the rookies that did make it, what I was reading,
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that they did at least play with the national team once. That's like the international games, yeah.
This girl has no minutes internationally.
That was my whole thing about it. She has no international experience.
And to me, that's a prerequisite to be on the Olympic team.
You have to have at least played internationally. especially if you play the
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international competition.
Say so, Carlin. Say so.
That's his mom. Y'all don't agree with Lisa Leslie, though.
What Lisa Leslie said a month ago, she said, I don't know how that play ain't
going to take off for the USA. It can't be. It won't take it off.
In first class. That's how it's going to take off, Lisa. In first class, baby.
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She said that because she knew what Clark Mania was all about.
She knows how to
be politically correct she's major in
it i love lisa but you know she's a pc
girl tell me about the the
racial aspect uh speak on that part yes so i'm i'm really curious kind of what
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y'all think about this too as well initially caitlin was like she has not seen
like her name She was like,
people talk about so much stuff about the league and about players.
It kind of is people right to talk about what they want to, and she hasn't seen that.
Stuff that's been used in like racist ways pretty much and all that stuff.
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That was the gist. He has blinders on.
Yeah, that was the gist of her initial comment. You've never seen this stuff? Okay.
Wait, brother, are you calling the black girl said, well, he haven't seen it. We should have.
It's all around us. Yeah, I'm going to my Twitter right now to pull up Dejanay Carrington.
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And, you know, she was just recently in all the... That was another thing this
week. I forgot about that.
When she put the clamps on Caitlyn.
And she did the hair butt. The hair fake. Yes, yes. When she was imitating her.
Yeah, when she said, oh, oh.
The people were mad, boy.
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But here she goes. After Caitlyn's initial response, She says.
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That's a word like that, baby. Silence is a luxury.
Oh, I love that. I'm feeling that one. I have a new phrase in me. Thank you.
Is a luxury. Silence is a luxury. That touched my soul right there.
Okay that was the initial one and then
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whenever she got asked more directly people was
like okay we need to give her another chance let's say
about people using her name for racism misogyny and all those things she said
something to the fact of it's disappointing people should not be using my name
to push those agendas blah blah blah going on to it so do y'all think because
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it's been a lot of commentary about this and oh gosh,
people blowing up on Stephen A's take and stuff today too.
And he's getting roasted by all the Caitlin Clark.
They're like, oh, you're singing a different tune now, Stephen A.
They're like, oh, the least I got to you.
The woke mob got to you now.
So they're all like... That's classic Stephen A. You go one side of the spectrum
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this week and the next week you go on this side.
Classic. Do y'all think that there is a responsibility for Caitlyn to be vocal.
About things happening?
I don't think the responsibility for her to be necessarily vocal,
but you can't be blind and act like it's not there. That's the issue I have.
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You can't say, oh, I don't see.
Girl, come on now. You've heard it. Somebody's told you.
Somebody in your family's told you. Even if you haven't seen it,
for your own two eyes. You've hurt someone.
You know what they say about her boyfriend and her brother?
No. Are they Trumpers? Oh, well, now Twitter has made lights private now, if you don't know.
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It's really convenient that happens now. Really convenient.
But her boyfriend and brother were always liking messages that were going after,
like, all the black women in the league.
Everyone was saying like all like racist things towards them.
Always like, you know, whenever they're coming for Angel Reese and all this
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stuff about Caitlyn, they were liking all those tweets. Yes.
And we're surprised, right? I don't know why anybody would be surprised.
Right. Exactly. So how in the world can you not understand that this whole thing
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with Caitlin Clark mania doesn't have anything to do with race?
Because these black women have been hooping a long time before they Yeah.
Before Kaitlin. Asia Wilson is the face of the league, should be the face of the league.
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However, we spend all this time on Kaitlin Clark. Why?
Because... Why it is right to them, baby.
How your boy say it? What's my chairman say? She's a straight, white woman. Yes.
And the left can't take it. Oh, there's so many tweets today about how they're
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attacking a straight white woman.
And they say that people don't know how to react to black lesbians being the
aggressors and stuff. It doesn't fit the narrative.
As if black lesbians are coddled in society.
I don't think coddled. It's just a waste of time before they're alive.
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I don't understand that comment. It's very strange.
That's a strange comment. I don't understand that one.
That's way out in left field. It's just become very political like that. I don't...
It's so political. It's crazy. You got Nikki Haley and people like that weighing in on this stuff.
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Yeah, it's just gotten to a place where it's just really, really ugly.
It's an ugly town in this country.
I'm telling you. That's what it is. It is.
It is. I think she is gonna,
hopefully well I don't know it's a different time now you know it's not the
time MJ that Republicans buy sneakers to we're not in this time period anymore that's so,
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it's not the Charles Barkley like no role model what Charles say you know I'm
not a role model not gonna work today it's just a different era it is,
everything is so click bait now man it's i don't understand it yeah she's gonna have to adjust.
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What's your stance do you think she should speak out
or what do you say speak out
on what race but the
question what's the question like like if she should be vocal about the way
people are using her name like in this sense and even like a baton talking about
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like how it's racism towards her like that's a dominant thing that's out there well she,
sure,
will she no.
But people got answers about that but that's not happening and uh,
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You know, I think it's, it is just the mindset of, you know,
white America and actually, where is Caitlyn from?
That's a good question. Is she from Iowa? Man, I know she played at Iowa,
but I don't know if that's where she's from.
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I don't know. Let me see if I can look up and see. I think somewhere in the Midwest, I'm sure.
Oh yeah, she's from Des Moines. that's what I thought I thought she was from
there so you gotta think about the region she's from yeah,
very true that's the most the most democratic city in Iowa however an Iowa Democrat
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is not like a that ain't yeah.
That's almost like the Jesse Hounds back in the day. Right.
I mean, you might as well have a sheet over your head.
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You know, that's what those Democrats are like out there.
And truthfully, most of the people out there are like that. I mean, they don't. Very true.
They're not tying the black folks out there in the Midwest.
We've dealt with a couple of
them yes we have it just is what it is that's very true you know they are,
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almost like the deep south you know oh yeah absolutely Caucasian Americans yeah
you know they don't have much,
they don't interface with and not
a lot of the version is regular because those you know where they're where they
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look so they're gonna have a bias against us because they've never really interacted
with us so they're gonna take societal norms and whatever.
Things that society has placed on black folks, the stigmas that black folks carry.
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And, you know, they base all of their interactions off of that.
So I don't foresee her taking a stance against racism because she probably really doesn't care about it.
She don't understand. The only thing I just hate when people place kind of people
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in this, you're just assuming people even have an understanding of each other.
She's not here.
No. She has no idea. Like I said, she doesn't care.
Why would she even care? She's never been around a whole bunch.
What did they say? Silence is a luxury? Not caring is a luxury.
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Yeah, but what's your back? She's not caring. Karen.
Not knowing it's a luxury. Yeah.
Absolutely. I know. I agree. One more thing I want to say to move on.
But this is why I always rock my page back here. Because whenever she got the
award, the ESPY award, what did she do?
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She shot Black women. Everyone before her. Because she knows the Black women dominate the sport.
And she's very gracious. I mean, she understands the landscape.
And she understands where we are in today's climate and why she has to do that.
And that's why for her to be at it, she's so blind and she doesn't know.
There have been plenty of examples out here for you tonight. So I'm not behind that.
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And, you know, you can even go to Cameron Brink with this year.
Yeah, Cameron Brink this year. Yeah, like a couple of weeks ago or whatever,
when she said there's a privilege for younger white players of this league,
especially the feminine ones.
Hello? She talked about the privileges and stuff that they have.
There are people who are aware.
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I'm like, Cameron, that's my... I was like Cameron.
She went in and talked about all those layers and stuff. There are people who
understand Caitlyn's not one of them. She's not one of them.
Not at all. We'll leave that where it is because I'm never going to say the Caitlyn talk is over.
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One day it will be. One day people are going to Stop scrutinizing every little thing.
Stop looking at every foul that's committed against her.
Stop looking. It's just the way she's done it. How about they win a game? Win a game this season.
They won the other night now. They won like three now. They're on a little.
Okay, good. Aaliyah Boston had like a career night.
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Come on, Aaliyah. Yeah, she did.
So why is it that it's okay for
every rookie in every other sport to get picked on? But not this sport.
For some reason, people feel like people owe her something.
It's just strange. Because these quarterbacks that come out,
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rookies, they get their heads knocked on. They get the hell beat out of them.
Look at your boy last year. Why ain't nobody got no picket signs out there for them? Okay.
It is so strange. And I think something with the gender part plays a role in this, too.
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Because, you know, like, when it comes to white fragility in American history,
it always starts with the white woman.
Yeah, the white woman has to be protected. And all this stuff and everything,
like how it is about, like, protecting white women from the scary Black people.
Yeah. It's the foundation of our country. Yeah. And that you can see that laying out here.
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Think about how most every city, every black city that was.
Prominent back in the day and that was destroyed by white people.
What was at the crux of that?
Somebody said something to a white woman. Somebody allegedly raped a white woman. I love it.
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Yes, absolutely.
Allegedly did this. Tulsa. Absolutely.
That was even with 1898 in Wilmington.
Yeah it was yeah you're right rosewood yep the same thing,
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so and really what really spurred lynchings
yeah you know so really pick up that that plays a part you guys hit it on the
head there that plays a part brother but people would they it i don't I think
it is subconsciously, I think,
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with some people, too. It's like consciously and subconsciously. I don't know.
But it is a clear direct link of the way our country has been built. Yeah.
On that note, that makes me want to go straight into this.
We can bounce around, too, because it makes me think of when she brought up
Tulsa, and we're talking about that, with the Oklahoma Supreme Court ruling
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on Wednesday that struck down the lawsuits.
From the last known survivors of the Tulsa race massacre.
Oh, you all have mercy. So disgusting. So disgusting.
Will we ever get justice in this country? Is it ever going to be humanly possible
for us to get any retribution or justice for any wrongdoers in this country?
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I mean, to me, I don't understand how you can get away with this.
I don't understand either, brother. that like
legally how are you able to get away with this
legally well i i i'm gonna
like summarize it because i know that even in the
ruling they were like while they think the claims are valid or legitimate they
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were like it doesn't fit oklahoma's public nuisance law or whatever that so
now i was doing some research of what the nuisance law is and it's like these
differences between private and public.
And when I was reading the public one, I was like, this clearly fits.
Like, I don't understand why they were saying it didn't fit.
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Murder is okay. Murder and destruction of property is okay. There's no problem with this or that.
It didn't fit the budget. That's what happened.
These red states are cashed for. The quote-unquote blue states fund these red
They don't have the money.
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Yeah. Didn't fit the budget.
Oh, okay. How do we pay everybody else, but we don't pay any black Americans?
Black people don't get paid. Talk about it.
I mean, can you, anybody with, well, these people are not empathetic or they
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just don't care about Black people.
Let's just be real. You know, we have been the backbone of this country.
We have suffered tremendously at the hands of chattel slavery.
And not only that, but we talked about Jim Crow in our last episode.
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So all the discriminatory acts that this country has committed,
implored against black people i
mean it has set us back
for ages and you
tell me that you can give a japanese american money you could give jewish americans
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money or jewish people money for reparations but the people that were the backbone of your economy,
that actually.
Spearhead your economy to make America what it is.
If it wasn't for African slaves laboring in those fields for cotton, tobacco,
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you know, cotton was like gold back in the day. That's where it's from.
That's why we're saying that's the one with the most powerful country now, whatever.
That's what made us who we are, a superpower. That's how we got that moniker.
And you're gonna say, forget those people. That's what they did. Or that's what they do.
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Continue on that. Yeah, we know that city was thriving and had businesses on top of businesses.
And yes, you guys were self-sufficient there, but I'm sorry.
Yes. And you know what's crazy? It reminds me too how all this,
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like everything is really forming in.
So I've done a couple of series too that I'll make sure y'all go listen.
You know, all the people listen out there. I've been breaking down Project 2025.
And one of the key in is the presidential transition plan for conservatives.
And one of the key things in the first promise is like dealing with American
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family and protecting our children.
That's how they label it. But in there, they talk about matters of it's basically
composed of gender and race. And they hone in on the race factor.
And we all see it with DEI and how all that is going away.
But now we see evidence of it happening in real life, like with this reparations thing.
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I think about, if you look in Evanston, you remember whenever the city that
became the first city to give reparations to their Black residents? They have now been too.
Huh? They've been too. Oh, yeah. The city has been sued for paying hundreds
of Black residents $25,000 in reparations.
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And so that's a lawsuit that's going on and stuff, too, as well.
Isn't it the same? We got a suit with the Black Women Organization?
I don't know if it's the same one as with the Black with the grant.
Yeah, with the grant, which is crazy. What city was you in? In Evanston.
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Evanston, Illinois. Yeah, the Chicago suburb.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like, so now that is, for that decision being made,
you know, and it's much like you're talking about, Carlin, like with the,
gosh, I can't remember the name of the foundation.
The foundation, yeah. I forget the name of it. Yeah. Well, man,
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she was just on Joy. She was on Joy Show. Yeah.
But that's so crazy, too, because
black women get only less than one percent. That's the one percent.
Less than one percent of all bread.
And you're talking about this is not fair. Less than one percent.
Yes. Yeah. And they're only given like twenty thousand dollar grant.
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It's like twenty thousand dollar grant. It's not like this.
You know, it's doing what they're doing, what we can. And so anytime we do stuff
to help each other, they even take that away.
That's so sad. And this is the plan. And they're doing it by like,
it's just it's crazy to me to just watch this stuff playing out.
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Reparations, I tell you, I don't know.
And that episode, when I saw that they were being sued for that decision,
I'm like, well, the city decided on this.
They cannot take it in their own hands to, if they want to do that for Black
residents in the city, which all Black people should be owed reparations anyway.
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I mean, gosh, it's just crazy. And the thing about Tulsa, too,
that gets me is that the city is making money off of the massacre.
And none of that money is going to the survivors or the black people.
None of it. So sad. It's so sad.
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It's just, I don't know in what world this makes sense to people, that this is okay.
There's no world that this makes sense. Like you said, there's no world.
This is bizarro world that we're living in. Earth is really ghetto.
I just come to the conclusion we're just the ghetto planet out here out in one
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of these tough streets of the universe.
Oh, that's crazy. I don't know. I talked to a couple of guys.
I talked to a couple of guys.
They said, no, it's just the United States.
They live in the country. You don't mean the country?
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It's just the United States. It ain't there. I don't know.
It's a lot of authoritative nations out here that's winning elections.
In Germany, it's a movement. It's a movement.
Italy has this fascist woman in here that's trying to break yourself too.
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If like it's all over the place.
Oh, Carla, I just looked it up cause you made me curious.
And yes, the Evanston one I was talking about, it says this lawsuit is part
of a larger movement to challenge race conscious programs in all aspects of society.
A lawyer with Gibson, Dunn, and Crutcher, who is representing the Fearless Fund.
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That's what it's called.
And they did the Afford of Action, too. They are doing the coalition.
They're gangbusters. They're trying to take everything down.
They're looking at anything that's race-concerned.
Yeah, that has been done, and they're going in and suing. They're just suing left and right.
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This is crazy. How are they winning these cases?
Who's sitting on these judges? Who's sitting on these judges?
The judges that Trump put in the office.
Y'all want to tell me your daddy Trump and Trump likes the black people and he's one of us.
This is why elections are important. And even your local, when you go and vote
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for judges, like, and all that stuff.
It was one, like, I'm at a show we was at recently or whenever.
Shea was talking about how you know important it is to vote locally and local,
don't make it too complicated even if you don't know what's going on she was
saying how it's times is like two hours before an election I was like let me
(01:00:09):
go to Google let me find out what exactly,
it's important just to know don't just be putting any judge down there just because,
you gotta know what's going on you gotta be like Jack laughter.
It's crazy. You ain't never lying. And I thought for not paying attention,
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they've been playing chess all this time.
They've always been about the courts, the courts, the courts, the courts, the courts.
And the party that represents us has very close to the heart.
It won't drop the head. It won't do the authoritative things whenever they have the power to do it.
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Yeah, if President Obama was getting blocked by McConnell, I wish he would have
just said, fuck you, I'm doing a Zingham order, and I'm going to put him in prison.
That's one of the things, and I understand all the logistics,
all this stuff with it, but especially in that last term of Obama,
when you ain't got nothing to do. Yeah, you ain't got nothing to do.
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Yeah, I do. That's one thing that gets me.
I follow him. I thought that last term, like, you know who's going to get it.
But they didn't recognize that any just enemy would be as low as they were.
Because, you know, we had like, it was a normal system, quote unquote.
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No, these people are not normal.
It's just the norm about these people. You look at the courts now,
I mean, eight of them are Trump and Bush.
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. The Supreme Court is a mess.
They're bought and paid for and we know it and nobody's doing anything about it.
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That's the part that gets me. You know they're bought and paid for.
We're not going to do anything about it. I think Obama had to Biden and,
maybe one or two. Biden's only had one.
Yeah, I think Obama's had two. Yeah, Obama's had two. Biden, one.
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And there's a chance, too, they're saying Trump is probably going to,
if he wins, because there's going to be two that probably retire.
Oh, if he wins, Trump is retiring and Alito's retiring.
Yes. And so he's going to put in some younger people For sure He's going to
put in some young 30 year old People that are going to be here for Alva,
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Y'all This passport I might be having to get up Get your passport Updated real
quick brother Because we got to get up out of here,
Mine already updated I got a fresh one You got a fresh one Yeah my passport
is out of date in September I need to update that thing I'm going to the motherland
(01:03:10):
and I'm going to Tanzania.
Okay. Okay, Tanzania.
Research. I'm going to have a Jadon player.
Research has been done. Tanzania is my spot. All right. I like this.
Now I need to research some Tanzania. I don't know nothing about Tanzania.
Look it up. I have to look that up. Yeah.
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Before we get out of here, we were talking beforehand, hand,
and I'm curious what y'all think about, get into another subject real quick.
Mr. Sunshine, Mr. Trevor Lawrence, because y'all had some thought on this recent,
contract of his, five-year extension, $275 million?
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What has Trevor Lawrence done to get $55 million a year?
What is wrong with these people out here? He is getting more than Patrick Mahomes
and he can't even hold Patrick Mahomes jockstrap.
I looked at a stat.
I think the top six or seven quarterbacks the highest paid six or seven quarterbacks,
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have not won a Super Bowl, not won a playoff game. That's crazy.
Well, some of them barely have won a playoff game.
Yeah, what Mahomes is doing is abnormal. Normally, teams win with a quarterback
on a rookie deal or some kind of small deal.
So that's been like the going thing in the NFL. You got to keep that quarterback. that.
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How in the world are we paying Trevor Lawrence $55 million?
I'm still stuck on that. I don't know.
You don't have to know about Sunshine. We've had new conversations.
Sunshine, Justin Herbert, these wonder kids, whatever, supposedly. I'm just...
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I'm not for paying all the people's money. I'm not. Who's making these decisions?
I feel like we need to run in the organization, y'all. I guess I don't.
Why is that stuff more balanced throughout your players? Because I don't understand. You don't.
It's out of hand because of the agents.
The agents are not going to say anything less than what the market says.
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I mean, I think when we do that job, they didn't do it. No, that's true.
They won't be doing the job.
What does that mean for Dak Prescott? Prescott's going to get $60 million then.
He's due a fortune. He's due your franchise.
Absolutely. He's going to be an unrestricted free agent after this season.
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He's going to break the bank. He's going to be insufferable.
You think they talk about his money now? Just wait.
Nobody's committed dollars. No. No way. no we ain't paying them no somebody's
gonna pay them that's why we got insurance back there,
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Who you got back there?
I totally forgot. They feel Trace been balling in camp. Let's see if he's been balling in camp.
I feel like the Niners gave him a little raw deal. Oh, they gave him a real raw deal. They good.
Well, you know what the Niners do to light skins.
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Shanahan is very impatient. Shanahan's like, if you don't catch at y'all.
Carl, I hate you. I'm moving on to the next person. What did they do to like, Skins?
Now, we're not going to revisit that. That was a different race.
We had a racist head coach at that point.
Somehow, I'm still a 49ers fan. I don't know. I don't know how you are a 49ers
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fan. Because I look at it this way, Cameron.
That wasn't our organization. That was Chip Kelly. Who remembers Chip Kelly
being a head coach before he died.
This is accurate. If you do, I'll remember him because of that situation with Mr.
Kaepernick. Other than that, he never existed.
So that's why I just... He definitely existed because we...
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He definitely existed in my mind.
We're not going to have a vision in his history on this.
He definitely exists. Totally revisional. We can't revise that all day long. Yes, we can.
I do want to ask y'all, since we're talking quarterbacks, I do want to ask y'all
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about Mr. Aaron Rodgers.
Oh, gosh. And all this.
Oh, we're doing this all year. Oh, goodness.
Between Aaron Rodgers and Caitlyn Clark, I don't watch any talk TV now because
of those kids it's just too much Aaron Rodgers I am,
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disappointed in him did you
expect anything more I didn't expect
anything more but I am thoroughly I don't
think anywhere I could be any more disappointed in Aaron Rodgers at this point
now I just roll my eyes every time I hear the mentions of his name I just loathe
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I loathe him and Caitlyn they are,
it's the arrogance so arrogant I stopped following did they find out where Aaron
was or did anybody know what he missed it for what he was doing charity event
or something possibly vacation possibly who knows.
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Get him out of the league I know I'm so sick of him I'm so sick of him but this
is going to be all and we're just starting get him out of the league the finals
about to be over we about to get into the thick,
of this football football football it's about to be glorious and it's about
to be worrisome at the same time we're going to talk about the same stupid stuff
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and Rodgers in the Jets and Rodgers in the Jets,
and Rodgers in the Jets You see how many games they have?
I think they were in the tops with televised games again.
Who cares about Aaron Rodgers? With the Jets.
Nobody don't care about the Jets. Nobody. At this point.
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Nobody cares about Aaron Rodgers. Right. I swear.
Who really does care about him? That's a good point. Who really does care about
Aaron Rodgers like that?
How many Super Bowls has Aaron Rodgers won?
One. The one allegedly. Allegedly. The one.
That was like 50 million years ago. How long?
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I don't know. If you're going to talk about it. It was like 12 years ago.
It was like a whole career worth of time. I know a Super Bowl is a Super Bowl.
But dang, how long can you live off of a Super Bowl?
Apparently 12 years. Yeah, I'm just like, I don't know. And it's obvious he's been a bad teammate.
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Obviously. And just the poor leader. It depends who you ask,
because some people swear by him.
No, he got his favorites. He got his favorites.
He's a bad teammate.
He's a selfish teammate, absolutely. He's from the Caitlin Clark School of Teammates.
That's what he learned it from. If he's selfish, he's a bad teammate.
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This is true. Well...
Y'all, we're going to have plenty more time to talk about Aaron.
I'm kind of ready for football to come back around now. I'm definitely ready
for football. Yeah. College football is going to be amazing this season.
Yes. There's going to be a lot going on. All these good teams are in the same conference.
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What's B.I. going to do year two at Colorado? Oh, there's so much to talk about.
I can't wait for football season to start.
That's true. What's Alabama going to be like with Kevin DeBoer now?
Yes. Just still beat the Fringes. Yeah, all I care about is college football. Buy a championship.
College football, that's all I care about. Are you sour over there?
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Until y'all start winning. Watch y'all start winning it, dude. You'll be all like.
Well, that's not going to happen this year. You know, it could surprise you.
And congratulations to the Heels. Shout out to the Heels. Another walk-off win today.
College World. We walked off on Virginia today. Yes, we did.
We walked off on Virginia. I was watching Mr.
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Honeycutt. Mr. Honeycutt is mad.
Again. Another walk off.
Also, congrats to Hugh McDavid. His son is joining the team.
What? That's a walk off. You didn't see that? Who cares? Shut up.
We don't care about that. We see nepotism in high words. Why not? Go ahead. Who cares?
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Go ahead go ahead and carry the water who cares
i i do want to say happy father's day
to all the fathers out there the uncles the godfather grandfather dad the granddad's
the yeah uh absolutely you know all the All of them.
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But, you know, I will say this on my little soapbox.
Men need to start stepping up and being leaders again.
Amen. And this has been a, this is the reason for the demise of our country
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is because men have fallen back and not taking the leadership roles that they
should, should be taken.
And we are losing that true leadership, especially in the African-American community.
Community and fathers, we need to step up in our roles, not only as fathers,
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but leaders in the communities that we represent. Amen.
I know we take these days to get tithes or whatever they give out for Father's Day,
but really, fathers, we need to take this time to really think about what we
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can do better to make our country better because right now, it's not in the best state,
and it starts with us.
Right. You heard it from the top of your head.
That's the word Thank you for that word And a happy Juneteenth To everyone too
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as well Yes We cannot forget about Juneteenth We gotta have a Juneteenth episode Maybe we do Yeah,
That's a good idea Talk to me Special Juneteenth episode Yes Alright I like
it Alright brothers us was Ben.
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Real, we're up on the hour.
Yes. Been a pleasure. FYI, as we speak, Dallas is up by 24 points.
Hey, we already knew it. Gentlemen sweep. Yeah.
They got to give Dallas a little bit of money. Okay.
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And his other co-host.
We can name you a co-host at this point. At this point.
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I think I'm going to redo an intro for a new co-host.
The most handsome, the most debonair, the eldest. The eldest.
Carlin, do you think he's put in enough work? Has he put in enough work?
I bet them so. He's lasted long enough. He hates them enough.
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Okay. Why?
I think we can do it. We can do it. We can officially name him a co-host.
And maybe we might even have to redo a logo at some point.
Now it could be all three of us.
Well, that sounds good.
We got some things to talk about. Some things to work out there.
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We'll figure it out. We'll figure out that Brandon thing. We'll figure it out.
And the branding, of course, is going to launch us into that space.
That's right. And we're doing well. Thank you all, too, for the listeners out
there. The numbers are doing great.
It's consistent. And we enjoy doing it.
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We enjoy talking about everything we're doing. And we enjoy having you all out there listening to us.
And I'm going to enjoy ragging on my brothers on their little prediction. Here we go.
Dallas winning. Newcomers.
I should never bet. I should stick with my motto and never bet on Dallas for anything.
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I don't know what I was thinking. I led you into a ditch. You did.
I'm sorry. Follow my big brother. He's my hero. and he followed the A&I.
I should have followed the eye test.
Yeah. My eye...
Told me that one Luka Doncic cannot play defense.
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Cannot. We all knew this. And was that healthy?
He's like 80. Is he even 80%? I don't even know. I don't even know.
And even if he was 100%, he can't guard.
So, and I will say this.
I slept on really how talented Boston is.
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And how deep they are they are so deep 7 to 8 guys well really 8 guys that when
Porzingis is healthy 8 guys that can contribute in a big way because you got Hauser,
Pritchard you got Tillman that will come off whenever we got to give you credit,
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you did call that one now that Porzingis injury that came like well you did.
Oh that porzingis cannot stay healthy no no but yeah i'm with our model with top players,
With Tillman, that's nine. Yeah. Yeah, with Tillman, that's nine.
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What's our motto with tall players? We don't trust tall players. Oh, yeah. This is true.
They're just going to be hurt. They're just going to be hurt.
You can see in life, you don't see a bunch of really tall people walking around
later in life, right? They don't last very long.
It's just not. The body is not supposed to be these.
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It's just not common. Stop it. Stop it.
Average height I'm supposed to talk massively tall like you know we talk about
seven footers now we got we got JP that's close to that we got the.
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He need to cap it off right where he is right now right where he is exactly
once you hit over that seven it's a whole A whole different – that's just a
whole different ballgame. It's out to the Giants territory.
And everybody – It's a different animal there. It is. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, what do we think about this series, y'all? What happened?
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Because I remember you two telling me very clearly that Kyrie was going to go
off. Now, them first two games.
Did we say that? Them first two games, y'all was like, oh, he about to give
it to Boston. He right back in there with the first two games.
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I give him the third game. He played well. He played really well in the third game. Yeah.
I'm ashamed of our prediction there.
My prediction, I'll stand on it. I did say Kyrie was going to give it to him. And I'm.
He laid a dud at both.
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Both. Both Boston games. Both. It was horrible. He looked horrible.
I'm most afraid. Yeah. He looked old. I was like, how old is Kyrie again?
He looked very much like the latter end of his career in the first two games.
Yes. And especially in game two, Boston was like, please beat us.
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Please come and take this game. They had to. I don't even. Come on.
You can have it. I don't say we want it.
Exactly. Yeah, I don't. Because that's one thing about Boston.
We say this all the time, Carl. They will let you back in the game.
They don't have to stay up. They don't even have a game three. They was up so much.
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30 points. They were up 21, and Dallas brought it back to two.
Back to two in no time. In a matter of like two or three minutes at that.
It's because they shoot too many devilish threes, as you said,
Carlisle. Yes. I can't stand it. It burns me up.
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But that's Missoula's.
That's their philosophy. That's their philosophy. Yeah.
What do you guys think about the coaching battle between Kidd and Missoula? Hmm.
I was surprised. I thought Kidd would have the upper hand.
You're not out on Missoula. For some reason, I have not been high on the rule.
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I think he made a lot of adjustments in the game.
But I think he has done a good job of making the right lineup changes at the right time.
Leaving a hot man on the floor. I think some of the coaching tips he gave them
to what they were reporting was helpful.
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You know, saying things that they needed.
They'll be tough and don't overpass you
know there's an option i haven't have a habit
of overpassing which gets on my nerves like they'll pass up or i'll lay it all
the time i'll lay out for a brick warner yeah yeah so to me i thought that was
good advice but to me i was surprised that jason kidd was getting his head beating
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on the sidewalk i'm definitely surprising to me,
I will say I'm surprised.
I thought Kidd was the better coach coming into the city. Yeah.
However, Joe Mazzulla has absolutely out-coached Jason Kidd. Absolutely.
No question.
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Well, and part of that is Luka Doncic. Let's talk about it.
Part of that is because all Mazzulla has done is picked on him the whole series.
Oh, he's just picking on him so badly.
They go right at him. They always get him in the pick-and-roll action.
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Which Tatum and Brown just drive him to the basket every time because his feet are terrible.
He has terrible feet and no want to on the defensive end.
Agreed. I mean, in one respect, I can't say that Kidd was so thoroughly outcoached.
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It's just he doesn't have the personnel to defend.
True. You know, all they do.
Where's his bench, y'all? Where is Tim?
Well, that's why I went with Weston because I feel like Dallas' bench,
beyond lively, they kind of just, like, disappeared. They disappeared.
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Nowhere. They haven't. I don't know. Hardaway is like a shell of himself.
Yes. They were big in the Timberwolves series.
That's why I thought they were really contended because the bench,
I thought the bench could match Boston's bench when they were playing in the previous round.
But they have disappeared this series. I would say this.
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Luka has not relied on Jones, Lively.
And gafford yeah as much as they they did previous series yeah you know those guys were in series,
they are you know you can't have jones having two points and gafford having sits in home games yeah,
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like i'm really confused because i
what happened to all the lobs and the hot flying and just
this that's Luca the ball a
lot so I've been watching their sets and when
when those guys slip it's normally out of his hands but he's holding it on the
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ball a lot and he's Bob they're down and shooting percentage is terrible yeah it is a high High volume.
And he is firing them up. Yes.
He is the sole reason they lost that third game. Yeah. Absolutely.
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Kyrie was cooking that game. And they went away from Kyrie. He had 20 in the first half.
Yeah. And was cooking the second half.
But Luka kept pounding the rock. I didn't get it. I didn't understand.
And then Luka falling out. Luka and – Those fouls were ridiculous.
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Can we talk about that? How ridiculous those fouls were. Just because he's mad. Lazy.
And lazy and tired. Just – This one's great. Why doesn't he get the most time
talking to the refs and complaining?
And he's trying to draw all these crazy fouls on the other end.
And always falling down after shooting three-pointers and all this stuff.
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And then making these lazy fouls.
And then just sitting there complaining instead of being in the game.
I don't know. He's caused some valuable points.
There was that one or two of that foul. You remember, Cameron?
We were watching it at the same time when he dove in.
I was like, that's clearly a foul. They missed that. They missed that.
But he let that permeate.
And it just stuck within the rest of that fourth quarter. and he went hey,
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you know what, in the mind.
Like, he made some really dumb just tragic mistakes that cost him the game.
They cut the lead down and they actually had an opportunity to tie the game up or even take the lead.
They had a chance to tie it. Yeah.
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Or take the lead, like you said, bro. And what gets me is how petulant he was. I mean, he...
He literally went to the bench and cussed everybody out on the sidelines. Yes.
And effing challenged the foul.
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You fouled? Like, what? I just can't.
I can't. I mean. That was terrible.
Childlike behavior. Selfishness. Yeah.
Agreed. but you know Rasheed Wallace said something on his podcast he said this
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is nothing new true this is nothing,
new he said the NBA is at fault for allowing him to behave like he has behaved
the whole year and previous years just because,
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he is who he is, they let him get away.
That's so great. Yeah. Just think about Draymond Green.
Oh, please. He would have been teed up so fast so many times.
What would happen to him? We know what would happen.
Like what you said, brother, with Windhorse? Yeah, when he was going to to...
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He gave him the business.
He said, it's a national day. He's been following Luka for many years and nothing's changed. Yeah.
And he said, if he doesn't change that and change his body...
Hello? He's got to lose weight.
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I'm sorry. He's got to lose weight. That's what... Yeah.
He's like an office alum This is not going to work.
I mean, talent is going to get you very far. We see he's in the finals.
But to close the deal, to win, you have to do that extra layer.
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You have to have the intangibles. The intangibles win championships.
Like Brady, when he made a speech about greatness,
when he said, you know, being great, you don't really have to be,
have the most talent and be really special.
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You have to be consistent. That was so true.
You got to sacrifice. You got to give something up, Luther.
Something got to go. Beer, whatever, chicken wings.
Something got to go. He's consistent on growing that belly.
When Luca was talking to his dad in the Western Conference Finals,
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Luka was talking to his dad, had a beer in his hand. Yeah. Oh, I didn't even see that.
I remember that. Yeah, I remember that. It was so smooth.
He walked right on up there, took the beer out of his hand, and kept right on
getting up. Wait, who did that, you said?
Michael Finley. You know, he.
I don't remember this. Wait, no. I think I do remember this now. Yes.
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And he was up there.
And see it was live
and he's like
he just walked up to him grabbed the
beer and kept right on move so smooth
just like i'm i gotta protect you man yeah yeah you and me we getting ready
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to go to a finals and you out here chugging beer come on now come on now but
that just speaks to that speaks to who he is, man.
On the other side, what are y'all impressed by with Boston?
I know it is. I know, Carl, you threw out there about Jalen Brown being the best player.
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He's showing that. I mean, he's MVP right now. Yeah, he's MVP, clearly.
Well, I'm going to give kudos also to Derek White and Drew Holiday. Drew Holiday.
I love me some Drew. Drew Holiday, he's a championship player.
Yeah, that was what my... You said it, brother. Give me credit.
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And I was wrong.
I was wrong about that. Look at there. What does this happen in our society?
Someone said that there.
I was wrong. I said Kyrie was going to and Drew had locked him up.
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Drew has been phenomenal on both ends. Offensively, especially game two,
he really carried the team offensively.
It's that. Think about how many minutes he's played.
So in the first game, he played 38 minutes. Second game, 41.
Third game, 42 minutes. Oh, wow. And all of those minutes, no turnover.
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Oh, wow. I didn't even hear you play there. No turnovers? No turnovers. That's crazy.
So that tells you what they got when they made that trade.
Yeah. That's crazy. When they made that trade, I was like, they're definitely
going to be in the final. What was Milwaukee?
That's Milwaukee. Milwaukee. I don't know.
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Because they were tight, too.
That's why Green Freak was mad. He was mad as all get out. Yeah.
I think we all understand why.
That's part of the heart of the team right there. A key member of the team.
Uh-huh the defense he was the head of
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the snake yes he was the
head of the snake and he's he and derrick white they are the head of the snake
now well and you gotta put jaylen brown up there because that son of a gun can
play some defense boy and the yams he has had he's ducking all over for everybody.
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Whipping everybody, ducking over everybody. He has punished them.
What tickled me, though, was in the first game of the series, he just,
Lucas pocket like you yeah. Oh, yes when he picked this at me corn Yeah,
he picked them twice at midcourt and dunked it. Yes.
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I said This boy here. He has come to play.
He's cut his turnovers down to that big bugaboo like yeah Yeah.
He's handling the rock. He's doing a good job. He's shooting so much better,
too. He shoots the ball a lot better, too. Yeah.
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He's a 50% shooter. Like, his field goal percentage is 50%.
And, I mean, he's just so efficient, man.
And even though I hate this term in basketball about a two-way player because
it's not. Everybody's talking about a two-way player.
It's not how everybody gets to my plan all is the two is baby.
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But he really is he really is yeah well you see his assist i've been impressed
by his assist numbers too yeah he's like been getting like about over six assists like every game,
going with this. I'm like, what is this?
I got to give Tatum credit in this part.
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He's been extremely unselfish on finals.
He has. As opposed to the last one. He has, but he just had no other choice
because he shot terribly.
He already know brother does not see it for him at all.
No. I'll give him a little nugget. Your brother's like,
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no, we're not going to do that at the day no he played well last game i will
give him that game three is one game he he played my i was happy for him but
he did go he did go in the jason tater mode and the.
4-4. When they had a comeback, he got some fun for the comeback demise. He really did.
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He's small when the game gets tight. Yep. Yeah.
And that's just been his M.O. That's the evidence. I'm probably going to go over on what we've seen.
I mean, he does, he gets small when the game gets tight.
One for five at one for five, man.
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Crazy. And, And your boy, Luca,
why is he averaging more fouls than he is points in the fourth quarter?
He's averaging 4.8 points in the fourth quarter. How many?
2.8 in the fourth quarter. Wow. Wow. Small. Now, that's small potatoes.
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Come on, small fries. You supposed to be the second best player in the league?
2.8. That's who? Who said that? You know they always try to put him in Joker.
They always be like that one, too.
USA. USA.
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That's crazy. From the States. 2.8. I didn't know that. That's terrible.
And let me not forget, because y'all tried to clown on my man.
I love your thing. I love your thing.
Your boy. has been switching off and sticking with him on D.
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He's been D'ing up Luka too. I'm like, Luka.
Cameron, you've never been this right before, but, dog, you were spot on.
You were spot on. You were spot on, brother. You were spot on.
Well, I got the games wrong. I got the games wrong, but I let that go.
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This ain't going to be no seven games.
Is it going to be a sweep or a gentleman sweep? That's the question.
That's the question. It's a Friday night. They're about to tip off.
I don't even have my TV on, so I don't even know if they tipped off yet. Not yet.
That's the question. Will there be a sweep?
There's a high chance. There's a high probability.
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I want to say no because I just can't imagine someone getting swept.
And if I don't, like, I just, you got to show me something. You are a professional.
Like, Dallas has to win this game right.
What I have seen from Luka is that he pouts when he doesn't get his way.
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And when things go awry, that's when he goes in the shell.
And I have seen him, you know, just flat out give up. Yeah.
If I'm a Boston fan, yeah. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Carl.
I think this is going to be a challenge to his legacy.
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Will he up tonight you can't get swept if it this is a big old dinner his legacy getting swept,
it's a huge game this is this is a huge game for him yes what were you gonna say Carl,
my part of me is thinking that Dallas may win just because of that because this
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is like a character game you know what I'm saying like are you really a professional
are you a true star in this league.
But if I'm a Boston player, I want them to close out the night because we see the self-impact.
I know it's 3-0, but if Dallas wins this game and they pull off game five,
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the game's hitting back and back. It's a chance.
But I'm not banking on that happening. I'm not banking on that happening.
I'm thinking Boston may pull it out tonight. There's always a chance.
There's always a chance. I'm going five games now. I have a minimum of five.
I think Dallas is going to win tonight.
We'll see. I say the chances are slim to none.
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It's when the team go up 3-0 in the finals, they're 156-0.
Yeah, Boston's winning the series. That's for sure. No doubt in that. Okay.
All right. Just tonight.
Well, all right. We'll leave that there. There's going to be more to talk about for these guys coming.
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Should we do it now? Oh, God.
Should we do it through the other professional league on the women's side of things?
Here we go. Not the one that A.B.
Said. What did he say? It's work groups. That's what A.B. said.
Yeah, because I think there's some projections that the WNBA is going to lose
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$50 million. Oh, it's going to lose $50 million or something this year. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. It was so funny because the Post, whenever they were doing that, they were using...
Aja Wilson's picture and somebody else. I can't remember who else.
They were like, uh-uh, don't be sure. Don't stop showing Caitlyn now.
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Okay. Thank you. That was funny. But our girl, Caitlyn Clark,
y'all, like, it's just power.
Yes. Caitlyn has become our girl. She's the talk of the couch.
So it has – you got a problem, Carl?
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Not ours, Carlin. No.
Not Carlin. We have gone from the Olympic talk.
That just seems like it happened two years ago now.
Oh, that was, yeah. That was about five years ago now. This week.
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Now to all the where Caitlyn got questioned about her name being the face of racism,
and stuff basically and illegal people using her name basically to do the dirty
work, to do misogynist racist work.
Her first response was not very well received.
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Was it? Not at all.
Desjardins Carrington was definitely one who was out tweeting and had things
to say about Caitlyn's response initially.
Then a second question was asked of her again later at another moment.
They got more specific. And, you know, Caitlyn gave, I felt like, a decent response.
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The PR team had a talk. Yeah, the PR team had a talk. You know,
how people should be using their name to do it. Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Anyway, y'all, what? All right, let's go back.
Because I was curious this week of the lipid thing, though. What y'all thought about that?
Did anybody feel a way with Caitlyn? Let's talk about that first. Yes.
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She was not deserving of being on the Olympic team. All right,
Michael Wilbaugh. You sound like Wilbaugh. That's exactly how he started off.
I didn't hear Wilbaugh. I got to listen to that. I didn't either.
But she hasn't won anything. She hasn't done anything in the league yet.
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Now, obviously, she was a very good college player.
But professionally, this is something different.
Now, Devil's Advocate, it wouldn't be unusual for a rookie to be on there.
Her international play experience is zero.
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Zero minutes of international play. But how many girls are on that team?
What's the roster? Is it 12? 12, I believe. That's correct.
And who can take it off? So you're telling me she's better than the top 12 girls, stars in the WNBA?
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Is it about who's better, though? That's the key question.
It's about marketing versus about winning the title. It's about winning that
title. Oh, y'all know they're going to win a title.
You don't need 12 great players to win no title. The women, they don't even come close to the loser.
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It is nowhere near what the men's side is. They don't come last year.
They don't come for half. Yeah, boy.
But let's be real. We want to go out there and annihilate the competition.
Yes. The other thing is there's got to be camaraderie amongst the players.
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That's key i'm going to tell you how caitlyn clark is not a good teammate he's
not a good locker room girl about that on the last episode yeah yes i think
it's he is not a good teammate,
so and you talking about people being together for a long time over there when
they're playing in the olympics exactly in a foreign country that is not going
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to work not with we we talk about Now,
Luka being petulant. Oh, gosh.
What was he doing in a national play? They think he's getting roughed up now?
Wait. Exactly. He's got brains out over there.
And Cameron? Yes. Cameron, you have to understand, the WNBA,
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NBA, it seems like the NBA, the international teams are getting stronger.
They are. They are. It's not like it used to be. They are. There's some challenges
out there. You're correct.
I mean, but putting her on the roster, it's not like she was going to play that much anyway.
The only person – well, we'll see
what's going to happen with Chelsea Gray because she still has been hurt.
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She still hasn't even played a – she hasn't played at all this year still and
don't know if there's going to end up having to be an alternate.
Because I think Kaitlyn – I can't remember if she's like a first alternate or
a second – she's up there in the top as an alternate. it.
What about Erika Agumale? I know.
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Well, that's why I say it's not always the best players. Because she's,
Averaging 26 a game. You can have an amazing season. Absolutely.
But, you know, I think Rebecca Lobo wrote this down really well,
if y'all saw that, when she talked about how long this team has been in the
works and how – What was this guy here?
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And, like, you know, all the different times that they played together.
It kind of would have been unprecedented. in it. Because I even think when Candice
Parker and Sylvia Foles, she made it, and Brianna Stewart, they made it as rookies.
Well, Candice never made it.
They don't live with the team. No, her rookie.
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Okay. No, that was a travesty where she didn't make it during her... With Gino's years.
Yes. When Gino had that grudge against her. Yeah. When Candice was killing the
lead in literally the most player. And everybody and couldn't get on. It couldn't get enough.
That was the real travesty.
Yeah. I think even with the rookies that did make it, what I was reading,
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that they did at least play with the national team once. That's like the international games, yeah.
This girl has no minutes internationally.
That was my whole thing about it. She has no international experience.
And to me, that's a prerequisite to be on the Olympic team.
You have to have at least played internationally. especially if you play the
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international competition.
Say so, Carlin. Say so.
That's his mom. Y'all don't agree with Lisa Leslie, though.
What Lisa Leslie said a month ago, she said, I don't know how that play ain't
going to take off for the USA. It can't be. It won't take it off.
In first class. That's how it's going to take off, Lisa. In first class, baby.
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She said that because she knew what Clark Mania was all about.
She knows how to
be politically correct she's major in
it i love lisa but you know she's a pc
girl tell me about the the
racial aspect uh speak on that part yes so i'm i'm really curious kind of what
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y'all think about this too as well initially caitlin was like she has not seen
like her name She was like,
people talk about so much stuff about the league and about players.
It kind of is people right to talk about what they want to, and she hasn't seen that.
Stuff that's been used in like racist ways pretty much and all that stuff.
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That was the gist. He has blinders on.
Yeah, that was the gist of her initial comment. You've never seen this stuff? Okay.
Wait, brother, are you calling the black girl said, well, he haven't seen it. We should have.
It's all around us. Yeah, I'm going to my Twitter right now to pull up Dejanay Carrington.
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And, you know, she was just recently in all the... That was another thing this
week. I forgot about that.
When she put the clamps on Caitlyn.
And she did the hair butt. The hair fake. Yes, yes. When she was imitating her.
Yeah, when she said, oh, oh.
The people were mad, boy.
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But here she goes. After Caitlyn's initial response, She says.
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That's a word like that, baby. Silence is a luxury.
Oh, I love that. I'm feeling that one. I have a new phrase in me. Thank you.
Is a luxury. Silence is a luxury. That touched my soul right there.
Okay that was the initial one and then
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whenever she got asked more directly people was
like okay we need to give her another chance let's say
about people using her name for racism misogyny and all those things she said
something to the fact of it's disappointing people should not be using my name
to push those agendas blah blah blah going on to it so do y'all think because
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it's been a lot of commentary about this and oh gosh,
people blowing up on Stephen A's take and stuff today too.
And he's getting roasted by all the Caitlin Clark.
They're like, oh, you're singing a different tune now, Stephen A.
They're like, oh, the least I got to you.
The woke mob got to you now.
So they're all like... That's classic Stephen A. You go one side of the spectrum
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this week and the next week you go on this side.
Classic. Do y'all think that there is a responsibility for Caitlyn to be vocal.
About things happening?
I don't think the responsibility for her to be necessarily vocal,
but you can't be blind and act like it's not there. That's the issue I have.
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You can't say, oh, I don't see.
Girl, come on now. You've heard it. Somebody's told you.
Somebody in your family's told you. Even if you haven't seen it,
for your own two eyes. You've hurt someone.
You know what they say about her boyfriend and her brother?
No. Are they Trumpers? Oh, well, now Twitter has made lights private now, if you don't know.
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It's really convenient that happens now. Really convenient.
But her boyfriend and brother were always liking messages that were going after,
like, all the black women in the league.
Everyone was saying like all like racist things towards them.
Always like, you know, whenever they're coming for Angel Reese and all this
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stuff about Caitlyn, they were liking all those tweets. Yes.
And we're surprised, right? I don't know why anybody would be surprised.
Right. Exactly. So how in the world can you not understand that this whole thing
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with Caitlin Clark mania doesn't have anything to do with race?
Because these black women have been hooping a long time before they Yeah.
Before Kaitlin. Asia Wilson is the face of the league, should be the face of the league.
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However, we spend all this time on Kaitlin Clark. Why?
Because... Why it is right to them, baby.
How your boy say it? What's my chairman say? She's a straight, white woman. Yes.
And the left can't take it. Oh, there's so many tweets today about how they're
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attacking a straight white woman.
And they say that people don't know how to react to black lesbians being the
aggressors and stuff. It doesn't fit the narrative.
As if black lesbians are coddled in society.
I don't think coddled. It's just a waste of time before they're alive.
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I don't understand that comment. It's very strange.
That's a strange comment. I don't understand that one.
That's way out in left field. It's just become very political like that. I don't...
It's so political. It's crazy. You got Nikki Haley and people like that weighing in on this stuff.
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Yeah, it's just gotten to a place where it's just really, really ugly.
It's an ugly town in this country.
I'm telling you. That's what it is. It is.
It is. I think she is gonna,
hopefully well I don't know it's a different time now you know it's not the
time MJ that Republicans buy sneakers to we're not in this time period anymore that's so,
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it's not the Charles Barkley like no role model what Charles say you know I'm
not a role model not gonna work today it's just a different era it is,
everything is so click bait now man it's i don't understand it yeah she's gonna have to adjust.
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What's your stance do you think she should speak out
or what do you say speak out
on what race but the
question what's the question like like if she should be vocal about the way
people are using her name like in this sense and even like a baton talking about
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like how it's racism towards her like that's a dominant thing that's out there well she,
sure,
will she no.
But people got answers about that but that's not happening and uh,
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You know, I think it's, it is just the mindset of, you know,
white America and actually, where is Caitlyn from?
That's a good question. Is she from Iowa? Man, I know she played at Iowa,
but I don't know if that's where she's from.
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I don't know. Let me see if I can look up and see. I think somewhere in the Midwest, I'm sure.
Oh yeah, she's from Des Moines. that's what I thought I thought she was from
there so you gotta think about the region she's from yeah,
very true that's the most the most democratic city in Iowa however an Iowa Democrat
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is not like a that ain't yeah.
That's almost like the Jesse Hounds back in the day. Right.
I mean, you might as well have a sheet over your head.
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You know, that's what those Democrats are like out there.
And truthfully, most of the people out there are like that. I mean, they don't. Very true.
They're not tying the black folks out there in the Midwest.
We've dealt with a couple of
them yes we have it just is what it is that's very true you know they are,
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almost like the deep south you know oh yeah absolutely Caucasian Americans yeah
you know they don't have much,
they don't interface with and not
a lot of the version is regular because those you know where they're where they
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look so they're gonna have a bias against us because they've never really interacted
with us so they're gonna take societal norms and whatever.
Things that society has placed on black folks, the stigmas that black folks carry.
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And, you know, they base all of their interactions off of that.
So I don't foresee her taking a stance against racism because she probably really doesn't care about it.
She don't understand. The only thing I just hate when people place kind of people
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in this, you're just assuming people even have an understanding of each other.
She's not here.
No. She has no idea. Like I said, she doesn't care.
Why would she even care? She's never been around a whole bunch.
What did they say? Silence is a luxury? Not caring is a luxury.
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Yeah, but what's your back? She's not caring. Karen.
Not knowing it's a luxury. Yeah.
Absolutely. I know. I agree. One more thing I want to say to move on.
But this is why I always rock my page back here. Because whenever she got the
award, the ESPY award, what did she do?
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She shot Black women. Everyone before her. Because she knows the Black women dominate the sport.
And she's very gracious. I mean, she understands the landscape.
And she understands where we are in today's climate and why she has to do that.
And that's why for her to be at it, she's so blind and she doesn't know.
There have been plenty of examples out here for you tonight. So I'm not behind that.
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And, you know, you can even go to Cameron Brink with this year.
Yeah, Cameron Brink this year. Yeah, like a couple of weeks ago or whatever,
when she said there's a privilege for younger white players of this league,
especially the feminine ones.
Hello? She talked about the privileges and stuff that they have.
There are people who are aware.
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I'm like, Cameron, that's my... I was like Cameron.
She went in and talked about all those layers and stuff. There are people who
understand Caitlyn's not one of them. She's not one of them.
Not at all. We'll leave that where it is because I'm never going to say the Caitlyn talk is over.
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One day it will be. One day people are going to Stop scrutinizing every little thing.
Stop looking at every foul that's committed against her.
Stop looking. It's just the way she's done it. How about they win a game? Win a game this season.
They won the other night now. They won like three now. They're on a little.
Okay, good. Aaliyah Boston had like a career night.
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Come on, Aaliyah. Yeah, she did.
So why is it that it's okay for
every rookie in every other sport to get picked on? But not this sport.
For some reason, people feel like people owe her something.
It's just strange. Because these quarterbacks that come out,
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rookies, they get their heads knocked on. They get the hell beat out of them.
Look at your boy last year. Why ain't nobody got no picket signs out there for them? Okay.
It is so strange. And I think something with the gender part plays a role in this, too.
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Because, you know, like, when it comes to white fragility in American history,
it always starts with the white woman.
Yeah, the white woman has to be protected. And all this stuff and everything,
like how it is about, like, protecting white women from the scary Black people.
Yeah. It's the foundation of our country. Yeah. And that you can see that laying out here.
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Think about how most every city, every black city that was.
Prominent back in the day and that was destroyed by white people.
What was at the crux of that?
Somebody said something to a white woman. Somebody allegedly raped a white woman. I love it.
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Yes, absolutely.
Allegedly did this. Tulsa. Absolutely.
That was even with 1898 in Wilmington.
Yeah it was yeah you're right rosewood yep the same thing,
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so and really what really spurred lynchings
yeah you know so really pick up that that plays a part you guys hit it on the
head there that plays a part brother but people would they it i don't I think
it is subconsciously, I think,
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with some people, too. It's like consciously and subconsciously. I don't know.
But it is a clear direct link of the way our country has been built. Yeah.
On that note, that makes me want to go straight into this.
We can bounce around, too, because it makes me think of when she brought up
Tulsa, and we're talking about that, with the Oklahoma Supreme Court ruling
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on Wednesday that struck down the lawsuits.
From the last known survivors of the Tulsa race massacre.
Oh, you all have mercy. So disgusting. So disgusting.
Will we ever get justice in this country? Is it ever going to be humanly possible
for us to get any retribution or justice for any wrongdoers in this country?
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I mean, to me, I don't understand how you can get away with this.
I don't understand either, brother. that like
legally how are you able to get away with this
legally well i i i'm gonna
like summarize it because i know that even in the
ruling they were like while they think the claims are valid or legitimate they
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were like it doesn't fit oklahoma's public nuisance law or whatever that so
now i was doing some research of what the nuisance law is and it's like these
differences between private and public.
And when I was reading the public one, I was like, this clearly fits.
Like, I don't understand why they were saying it didn't fit.
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Murder is okay. Murder and destruction of property is okay. There's no problem with this or that.
It didn't fit the budget. That's what happened.
These red states are cashed for. The quote-unquote blue states fund these red
They don't have the money.
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Yeah. Didn't fit the budget.
Oh, okay. How do we pay everybody else, but we don't pay any black Americans?
Black people don't get paid. Talk about it.
I mean, can you, anybody with, well, these people are not empathetic or they
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just don't care about Black people.
Let's just be real. You know, we have been the backbone of this country.
We have suffered tremendously at the hands of chattel slavery.
And not only that, but we talked about Jim Crow in our last episode.
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So all the discriminatory acts that this country has committed,
implored against black people i
mean it has set us back
for ages and you
tell me that you can give a japanese american money you could give jewish americans
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money or jewish people money for reparations but the people that were the backbone of your economy,
that actually.
Spearhead your economy to make America what it is.
If it wasn't for African slaves laboring in those fields for cotton, tobacco,
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you know, cotton was like gold back in the day. That's where it's from.
That's why we're saying that's the one with the most powerful country now, whatever.
That's what made us who we are, a superpower. That's how we got that moniker.
And you're gonna say, forget those people. That's what they did. Or that's what they do.
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Continue on that. Yeah, we know that city was thriving and had businesses on top of businesses.
And yes, you guys were self-sufficient there, but I'm sorry.
Yes. And you know what's crazy? It reminds me too how all this,
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like everything is really forming in.
So I've done a couple of series too that I'll make sure y'all go listen.
You know, all the people listen out there. I've been breaking down Project 2025.
And one of the key in is the presidential transition plan for conservatives.
And one of the key things in the first promise is like dealing with American
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family and protecting our children.
That's how they label it. But in there, they talk about matters of it's basically
composed of gender and race. And they hone in on the race factor.
And we all see it with DEI and how all that is going away.
But now we see evidence of it happening in real life, like with this reparations thing.
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I think about, if you look in Evanston, you remember whenever the city that
became the first city to give reparations to their Black residents? They have now been too.
Huh? They've been too. Oh, yeah. The city has been sued for paying hundreds
of Black residents $25,000 in reparations.
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And so that's a lawsuit that's going on and stuff, too, as well.
Isn't it the same? We got a suit with the Black Women Organization?
I don't know if it's the same one as with the Black with the grant.
Yeah, with the grant, which is crazy. What city was you in? In Evanston.
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Evanston, Illinois. Yeah, the Chicago suburb.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like, so now that is, for that decision being made,
you know, and it's much like you're talking about, Carlin, like with the,
gosh, I can't remember the name of the foundation.
The foundation, yeah. I forget the name of it. Yeah. Well, man,
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she was just on Joy. She was on Joy Show. Yeah.
But that's so crazy, too, because
black women get only less than one percent. That's the one percent.
Less than one percent of all bread.
And you're talking about this is not fair. Less than one percent.
Yes. Yeah. And they're only given like twenty thousand dollar grant.
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It's like twenty thousand dollar grant. It's not like this.
You know, it's doing what they're doing, what we can. And so anytime we do stuff
to help each other, they even take that away.
That's so sad. And this is the plan. And they're doing it by like,
it's just it's crazy to me to just watch this stuff playing out.
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Reparations, I tell you, I don't know.
And that episode, when I saw that they were being sued for that decision,
I'm like, well, the city decided on this.
They cannot take it in their own hands to, if they want to do that for Black
residents in the city, which all Black people should be owed reparations anyway.
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I mean, gosh, it's just crazy. And the thing about Tulsa, too,
that gets me is that the city is making money off of the massacre.
And none of that money is going to the survivors or the black people.
None of it. So sad. It's so sad.
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It's just, I don't know in what world this makes sense to people, that this is okay.
There's no world that this makes sense. Like you said, there's no world.
This is bizarro world that we're living in. Earth is really ghetto.
I just come to the conclusion we're just the ghetto planet out here out in one
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of these tough streets of the universe.
Oh, that's crazy. I don't know. I talked to a couple of guys.
I talked to a couple of guys.
They said, no, it's just the United States.
They live in the country. You don't mean the country?
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It's just the United States. It ain't there. I don't know.
It's a lot of authoritative nations out here that's winning elections.
In Germany, it's a movement. It's a movement.
Italy has this fascist woman in here that's trying to break yourself too.
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If like it's all over the place.
Oh, Carla, I just looked it up cause you made me curious.
And yes, the Evanston one I was talking about, it says this lawsuit is part
of a larger movement to challenge race conscious programs in all aspects of society.
A lawyer with Gibson, Dunn, and Crutcher, who is representing the Fearless Fund.
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That's what it's called.
And they did the Afford of Action, too. They are doing the coalition.
They're gangbusters. They're trying to take everything down.
They're looking at anything that's race-concerned.
Yeah, that has been done, and they're going in and suing. They're just suing left and right.
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This is crazy. How are they winning these cases?
Who's sitting on these judges? Who's sitting on these judges?
The judges that Trump put in the office.
Y'all want to tell me your daddy Trump and Trump likes the black people and he's one of us.
This is why elections are important. And even your local, when you go and vote
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for judges, like, and all that stuff.
It was one, like, I'm at a show we was at recently or whenever.
Shea was talking about how you know important it is to vote locally and local,
don't make it too complicated even if you don't know what's going on she was
saying how it's times is like two hours before an election I was like let me
(01:00:09):
go to Google let me find out what exactly,
it's important just to know don't just be putting any judge down there just because,
you gotta know what's going on you gotta be like Jack laughter.
It's crazy. You ain't never lying. And I thought for not paying attention,
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they've been playing chess all this time.
They've always been about the courts, the courts, the courts, the courts, the courts.
And the party that represents us has very close to the heart.
It won't drop the head. It won't do the authoritative things whenever they have the power to do it.
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Yeah, if President Obama was getting blocked by McConnell, I wish he would have
just said, fuck you, I'm doing a Zingham order, and I'm going to put him in prison.
That's one of the things, and I understand all the logistics,
all this stuff with it, but especially in that last term of Obama,
when you ain't got nothing to do. Yeah, you ain't got nothing to do.
(01:01:19):
Yeah, I do. That's one thing that gets me.
I follow him. I thought that last term, like, you know who's going to get it.
But they didn't recognize that any just enemy would be as low as they were.
Because, you know, we had like, it was a normal system, quote unquote.
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No, these people are not normal.
It's just the norm about these people. You look at the courts now,
I mean, eight of them are Trump and Bush.
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. The Supreme Court is a mess.
They're bought and paid for and we know it and nobody's doing anything about it.
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That's the part that gets me. You know they're bought and paid for.
We're not going to do anything about it. I think Obama had to Biden and,
maybe one or two. Biden's only had one.
Yeah, I think Obama's had two. Yeah, Obama's had two. Biden, one.
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And there's a chance, too, they're saying Trump is probably going to,
if he wins, because there's going to be two that probably retire.
Oh, if he wins, Trump is retiring and Alito's retiring.
Yes. And so he's going to put in some younger people For sure He's going to
put in some young 30 year old People that are going to be here for Alva,
(01:02:49):
Y'all This passport I might be having to get up Get your passport Updated real
quick brother Because we got to get up out of here,
Mine already updated I got a fresh one You got a fresh one Yeah my passport
is out of date in September I need to update that thing I'm going to the motherland
(01:03:10):
and I'm going to Tanzania.
Okay. Okay, Tanzania.
Research. I'm going to have a Jadon player.
Research has been done. Tanzania is my spot. All right. I like this.
Now I need to research some Tanzania. I don't know nothing about Tanzania.
Look it up. I have to look that up. Yeah.
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Before we get out of here, we were talking beforehand, hand,
and I'm curious what y'all think about, get into another subject real quick.
Mr. Sunshine, Mr. Trevor Lawrence, because y'all had some thought on this recent,
contract of his, five-year extension, $275 million?
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What has Trevor Lawrence done to get $55 million a year?
What is wrong with these people out here? He is getting more than Patrick Mahomes
and he can't even hold Patrick Mahomes jockstrap.
I looked at a stat.
I think the top six or seven quarterbacks the highest paid six or seven quarterbacks,
(01:04:28):
have not won a Super Bowl, not won a playoff game. That's crazy.
Well, some of them barely have won a playoff game.
Yeah, what Mahomes is doing is abnormal. Normally, teams win with a quarterback
on a rookie deal or some kind of small deal.
So that's been like the going thing in the NFL. You got to keep that quarterback. that.
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How in the world are we paying Trevor Lawrence $55 million?
I'm still stuck on that. I don't know.
You don't have to know about Sunshine. We've had new conversations.
Sunshine, Justin Herbert, these wonder kids, whatever, supposedly. I'm just...
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I'm not for paying all the people's money. I'm not. Who's making these decisions?
I feel like we need to run in the organization, y'all. I guess I don't.
Why is that stuff more balanced throughout your players? Because I don't understand. You don't.
It's out of hand because of the agents.
The agents are not going to say anything less than what the market says.
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I mean, I think when we do that job, they didn't do it. No, that's true.
They won't be doing the job.
What does that mean for Dak Prescott? Prescott's going to get $60 million then.
He's due a fortune. He's due your franchise.
Absolutely. He's going to be an unrestricted free agent after this season.
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He's going to break the bank. He's going to be insufferable.
You think they talk about his money now? Just wait.
Nobody's committed dollars. No. No way. no we ain't paying them no somebody's
gonna pay them that's why we got insurance back there,
(01:06:30):
Who you got back there?
I totally forgot. They feel Trace been balling in camp. Let's see if he's been balling in camp.
I feel like the Niners gave him a little raw deal. Oh, they gave him a real raw deal. They good.
Well, you know what the Niners do to light skins.
(01:06:56):
Shanahan is very impatient. Shanahan's like, if you don't catch at y'all.
Carl, I hate you. I'm moving on to the next person. What did they do to like, Skins?
Now, we're not going to revisit that. That was a different race.
We had a racist head coach at that point.
Somehow, I'm still a 49ers fan. I don't know. I don't know how you are a 49ers
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fan. Because I look at it this way, Cameron.
That wasn't our organization. That was Chip Kelly. Who remembers Chip Kelly
being a head coach before he died.
This is accurate. If you do, I'll remember him because of that situation with Mr.
Kaepernick. Other than that, he never existed.
So that's why I just... He definitely existed because we...
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He definitely existed in my mind.
We're not going to have a vision in his history on this.
He definitely exists. Totally revisional. We can't revise that all day long. Yes, we can.
I do want to ask y'all, since we're talking quarterbacks, I do want to ask y'all
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about Mr. Aaron Rodgers.
Oh, gosh. And all this.
Oh, we're doing this all year. Oh, goodness.
Between Aaron Rodgers and Caitlyn Clark, I don't watch any talk TV now because
of those kids it's just too much Aaron Rodgers I am,
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disappointed in him did you
expect anything more I didn't expect
anything more but I am thoroughly I don't
think anywhere I could be any more disappointed in Aaron Rodgers at this point
now I just roll my eyes every time I hear the mentions of his name I just loathe
(01:08:53):
I loathe him and Caitlyn they are,
it's the arrogance so arrogant I stopped following did they find out where Aaron
was or did anybody know what he missed it for what he was doing charity event
or something possibly vacation possibly who knows.
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Get him out of the league I know I'm so sick of him I'm so sick of him but this
is going to be all and we're just starting get him out of the league the finals
about to be over we about to get into the thick,
of this football football football it's about to be glorious and it's about
to be worrisome at the same time we're going to talk about the same stupid stuff
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and Rodgers in the Jets and Rodgers in the Jets,
and Rodgers in the Jets You see how many games they have?
I think they were in the tops with televised games again.
Who cares about Aaron Rodgers? With the Jets.
Nobody don't care about the Jets. Nobody. At this point.
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Nobody cares about Aaron Rodgers. Right. I swear.
Who really does care about him? That's a good point. Who really does care about
Aaron Rodgers like that?
How many Super Bowls has Aaron Rodgers won?
One. The one allegedly. Allegedly. The one.
That was like 50 million years ago. How long?
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I don't know. If you're going to talk about it. It was like 12 years ago.
It was like a whole career worth of time. I know a Super Bowl is a Super Bowl.
But dang, how long can you live off of a Super Bowl?
Apparently 12 years. Yeah, I'm just like, I don't know. And it's obvious he's been a bad teammate.
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Obviously. And just the poor leader. It depends who you ask,
because some people swear by him.
No, he got his favorites. He got his favorites.
He's a bad teammate.
He's a selfish teammate, absolutely. He's from the Caitlin Clark School of Teammates.
That's what he learned it from. If he's selfish, he's a bad teammate.
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This is true. Well...
Y'all, we're going to have plenty more time to talk about Aaron.
I'm kind of ready for football to come back around now. I'm definitely ready
for football. Yeah. College football is going to be amazing this season.
Yes. There's going to be a lot going on. All these good teams are in the same conference.
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What's B.I. going to do year two at Colorado? Oh, there's so much to talk about.
I can't wait for football season to start.
That's true. What's Alabama going to be like with Kevin DeBoer now?
Yes. Just still beat the Fringes. Yeah, all I care about is college football. Buy a championship.
College football, that's all I care about. Are you sour over there?
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Until y'all start winning. Watch y'all start winning it, dude. You'll be all like.
Well, that's not going to happen this year. You know, it could surprise you.
And congratulations to the Heels. Shout out to the Heels. Another walk-off win today.
College World. We walked off on Virginia today. Yes, we did.
We walked off on Virginia. I was watching Mr.
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Honeycutt. Mr. Honeycutt is mad.
Again. Another walk off.
Also, congrats to Hugh McDavid. His son is joining the team.
What? That's a walk off. You didn't see that? Who cares? Shut up.
We don't care about that. We see nepotism in high words. Why not? Go ahead. Who cares?
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Go ahead go ahead and carry the water who cares
i i do want to say happy father's day
to all the fathers out there the uncles the godfather grandfather dad the granddad's
the yeah uh absolutely you know all the All of them.
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But, you know, I will say this on my little soapbox.
Men need to start stepping up and being leaders again.
Amen. And this has been a, this is the reason for the demise of our country
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is because men have fallen back and not taking the leadership roles that they
should, should be taken.
And we are losing that true leadership, especially in the African-American community.
Community and fathers, we need to step up in our roles, not only as fathers,
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but leaders in the communities that we represent. Amen.
I know we take these days to get tithes or whatever they give out for Father's Day,
but really, fathers, we need to take this time to really think about what we
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can do better to make our country better because right now, it's not in the best state,
and it starts with us.
Right. You heard it from the top of your head.
That's the word Thank you for that word And a happy Juneteenth To everyone too
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as well Yes We cannot forget about Juneteenth We gotta have a Juneteenth episode Maybe we do Yeah,
That's a good idea Talk to me Special Juneteenth episode Yes Alright I like
it Alright brothers us was Ben.
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Real, we're up on the hour.
Yes. Been a pleasure. FYI, as we speak, Dallas is up by 24 points.
Hey, we already knew it. Gentlemen sweep. Yeah.
They got to give Dallas a little bit of money. Okay.
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All right, y'all. This has been a Rosie B.
Production. you can follow the parker's couch on youtube and tiktok you can
follow cameron on instagram at cd parker 03 carlin at carlin 1978 that's c-a-r-l-o-n.
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