Join us in this riveting episode as we delve into the world of sports and politics. We kick things off with an in-depth analysis of the upcoming Olympic basketball team, scrutinizing the roster and debating its potential to join the ranks of the legendary Dream Team and Redeem Team. Does the current lineup have what it takes to make history?
As the conversation heats up, we shift gears to the controversial drafting of Bronny James and the fallout that ensued. Is he truly NBA material, or is this a case of nepotism at its finest? We also touch on the decline of Skip Bayless and what his departure means for the sports commentary landscape.
The episode takes a serious turn as we navigate the turbulent waters of contemporary American politics. We dissect the implications of the recent assassination attempt on Donald Trump and its potential impact on his presidential campaign. From the Republican National Convention's strategic appeal to Black voters to the Democratic Party's ongoing struggle with messaging and leadership, no stone is left unturned.
Whether you're a sports fanatic or a political junkie, this episode offers a compelling blend of analysis, opinion, and candid conversation. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that spans the courts to the Capitol.
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Music.
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Music.
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It's not even your season yet, or has it rolled over?
No. No. No, no, we got a long way to go. We got a long way.
Yeah, we got Leo to go. It's not even your season yet. It's not even my season.
Calm down. Every day. Anyway.
We got a million over this earth, so I'm. Oh, gosh.
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Here we go. Well, I'm glad. I'm glad that you're doing so well,
brother, and that you have had a great day.
I'm very happy for you thank you
what about you carlin well carl parker jr what what did he done did already
well he was about to say something that he shouldn't have and my angel just
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dispersed and cut him off,
can you hear me now yes go ahead,
yes i'm not gonna say what i was gonna say i don't know if you heard what i said,
but i am great thank you i'm the middle child so nobody cares and i'm right
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so i don't know you even asked me oh that's the truest thing you said all day
absolutely in quite some time.
You know i love y'all i'm myself
i am i'm feeling good i'm glad to be here
with my brothers and connect and we got a lot of stuff to get into today
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we got the olympics coming up you
know we on the countdown one week we're gonna
be watching opening ceremonies and so
we got to of getting a little bit of b-ball you know what we love
and how the boys are looking right now and
what's going on that way and we have a lot of politics
to get to the rnc convention just wrapped
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up we all know the attempted assassination on
trump and all this stuff and everything going in into that and allegedly all
in a part allegedly meanwhile at the same time stop it carlin him we we talk
it we talk it over that because we're not trying to get this podcast canceled so right now,
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I didn't hear a word that he said. But anyway.
Since we're going to save the political talk last, let's start off with some Olympics brothers.
Sounds good. Let's talk about some basketball real quick.
I want to know how y'all are feeling about this team.
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Because I've been reading some stuff, too, like head to toe.
So some people might be saying this might be one of the best teams that is going
to be in the running with the best teams that we've had to showcase in the Olympics with this roster.
Do you concur? Well, I'm going to go because I actually do concur.
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I know some people may not think so on this podcast that we're doing today.
But I think it has a chance to be like the third iteration of like the great teams.
Like, you know, I had the dream team, then the redeem team or whatever they were called.
And this thing, I think it's pretty solid.
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I'm not happy with Jalen Brown being off the team. I know we're probably going to get there.
I think they could have definitely used this defense and timely shooting because
he can knock down a three, just as good as Derek White can.
And I'm a little concerned about our depth in terms of the size on the team. That's the problem.
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But other than that, I think we have the ability to really lock down on defense
if they really play hard on the defensive end.
I think that's where their calling card would be more so than on the offensive
end because I can see us going into struggles offensively at certain points.
But I do think if it has an opportunity, I don't know if it will come to fruition.
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And we will see, but yeah, I'm one of those believers.
It's a nostalgic thing for sure uh however
i don't i don't think it's on par
with the dream team i i just think the the
relative age of the stars that are on this team kind of diminishes that factor
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however they they are a pretty solid team i will give them that and i i do I do concur with Carlin.
I'm not thrilled with the fact that Jalen Brown was left off the team,
but I know there are extenuating circumstances for that.
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B, one, he's a Muslim.
Uh-oh. He's too outspoken. That's not what I expected. You're talking about B.
Wait, what was number two? Two, he's too outspoken. just like Kyrie Irving.
And three, he does not belong to the Nike gang.
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I think that should be one. That should be number one. Me too, Cameron.
No. The Muslim part is number one because that is a big issue.
That's why he doesn't get the love out of Boston that he should because he's a devout Muslim.
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But but I'm not going to tarry on that part. We'll talk about this team.
So I think the addition of Derek White.
Does, there's one reason why
he's there and it's because of his defense in the, in the guard position.
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So some teams, some teams in the, in this Olympic, in these Olympics are guard
heavy and their strength is in the guard position.
And Derrick White and Jeru Holliday are two of the most dynamic guard,
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locked down defenders at the guard position.
I mean, you're not going to find any, any better at their position,
you know, defending now, Jaylen Brown is a heck of a defender itself,
but I think Anthony Edwards gives you that in spades as well in that position.
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Excellent point. he's a
he's a he's a lockdown defender as far as
the bigs we are soft
in the big category but i
am going to give kudos to anthony davis
and bam at a bio they are the ones that are holding down the fort joel mb was
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not the right person to have over there in these olympics he he's trying to draw fouls like he's in.
That's just not going to work over there. It's not going to happen. So,
I think that was a miss on their part on getting that guy to be over there.
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You know, he's talented in the league, but clearly it shows in these games that
he doesn't fit the Olympic game. Yeah.
The big man part, I was curious.
I have been thinking about this because, you know, I love for bigs.
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Kind of just like we grew up all like loving post play and playing on a post and doing all that.
Like I've been missing just that art itself in basketball.
And I think this team is just like really reflecting that.
And it's the part that has me worried because we are so – I think you said it
earlier, Carl, on how paper thin we are there.
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Yeah, very thin. Like if we get in foul trouble or somebody gets injured.
If somebody gets in foul trouble and something goes on.
And, I mean, we got some – I don't even know Durant's status right now with
his – I think he practiced today, if I'm not mistaken. Okay. Yeah.
Well, he's not a true big. No, but he's not a true big.
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And I was like, we have, like, tall-like people, but you know how the game ends
a ball, and everybody want to be outside right now and around a three-point
line, and how the game ends extended that way.
I'm just – it just has me a little paranoid, what potential we could have. I agree.
The Europeans banged. Yeah. It's been like that for years.
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I know even when I played overseas, those guys have always been fundamentally
sound, have good footwork.
They never were that athletic, although some are getting a little bit more athleticism.
True. but they are fundamentally sound, and they will beat you to death in that paint.
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That's why the Joker really, he can't jump over a phone book,
but that son of a gun will wear you out.
That's so true. When Serbia is supposed to be, like, one of,
you know, one of their biggest rivals or contenders right now,
and they put it to them just a couple of days ago here.
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I think Serbia will be a lot tougher than the Olympics, though.
I think I do, too. Yeah. I think it's going to be a path.
I do, too. That's a tough opening game.
I think Serbia is going to be tough. I think Germany is going to be tough.
Mm-hmm. and it's going to be tough
france is going to be tough and canada canada
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canada canada has a lot of boats yeah in australia all the like the whole it's
just such a different landscape now it's so many nba players and former nba
players on these squads and stuff too so it's it's a whole night And the sidelines as well.
A lot of the coaches are former NBA players a lot too. Yeah. From the places.
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Exactly. What I will give this group is that they probably have the toughest
road versus – They got the toughest.
It's definitely the toughest out of the top teams that we've had.
Out of the teams in the pants. Yeah. Like the dream team was playing the league out of deaf and blind.
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They were taking autographs autographs we have to be there definitely.
Definitely looking forward to it and we're going to have a lot of Olympic talk
going on we're going to save some of the other Olympic stuff we have some stuff
to talk about next week when we get into opening ceremonies and these games
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start off but I just love I was going to ask a question I guess I'll save that for what you thinking
about sneaking in there oh did y'all hear about anthony edwards saying that
he should take the last sound or be the go-to guy if we really need a bucket
out of our team yeah yeah don't think about that,
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That's just the young guy trying to flex his muscles a little bit.
He's wanting to be a little baby Jordan, but it's going to be Steph or KD for me.
Oh, it's going to be KD for me. I want KD taking the last shot.
Yeah. It's going to be one of those two. It's going to be one of those two. Yeah.
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It's going to be one of those two. I agree with that.
Yeah. Those two, they're tried and true, and their J's are just too wet.
I mean, their arsenal is just a little bit better than the young fellas.
Oh, yeah. KD's untouchable. You can't come close to dropping his shot.
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I love the young fella. Love the confidence. I love the brass and all that stuff, but settle down.
Yeah. Thank you. Okay. It's okay. Somebody give him a lollipop and tell him to go sit down.
It's not a lollipop. I'm screaming.
I still want to keep it basketball a little bit and get into,
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we haven't discussed, at least on the podcast and everything.
Oh, no. Oh, no. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
Don't be saying, oh, no, you don't know where I'm going. Or maybe you do.
I don't know. Maybe I'm not going where you think I'm going.
But we haven't discussed Mr. Bronny James in this situation no yeah.
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You knew where I was going.
We were hoping not, but here we go. Here we are.
So, Brian, what was he, number 55?
I want to say pick or something. Yeah, I think 55 is correct.
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I don't think it was. Maybe for a few it was a shock.
I don't know. The draft was not very strong, and I saw this coming anyway.
I just knew this was going to happen, that LeBron was going to orchestrate this.
Me, personally, I didn't really have an issue with him being drafted, per se. I understand.
Maybe some issues down the road kind of thing. Whenever it came out so quickly,
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too, that he had a four-year contract, then I was a little confused.
But it's like, when you second round, 50-pick?
But anyway, now that all the eyes are on the summer league and everybody's just
talking about Bronny, Bronny, Bronny.
And I'm just like, oh, my gosh, here we go again.
But how would you rate his performance so far?
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How would you rate the circus show that started? And what do you think about
him being drafted in the first place?
Maybe some of y'all have an issue with it to start.
Caroline, I'll defer to you again for you to start it off. I have a lot of Okay,
I'll break the ice here Okay for me.
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I Have a problem with him being drafted because the draft was so very weak.
He's a second-round pick You know those don't last very long normally in the league. I.
LBJ flexing his nepotism. White people have done it forever, so I don't care.
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Go ahead. Flex your nepotism. You have the power.
I'm 100% behind that. Absolutely. Agreed.
Agreed. In terms of how I project Bronny to be, he's getting the opportunity.
I just hope he's a solid role player in the league. I think he can progress
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to maybe being a player of the league.
I just think they put Mason from that point guard, in my opinion,
like why they have me a shooting guard is what I've seen him play.
Or why he's not bringing the ball up the court. I think he would maybe drive
better that way in the future.
The four-year contract, that was just, you know, strange.
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I mean, it's the Lakers move. I understand they want to appease LeBron.
But to me it just doesn't make a lot of sense to do that in my opinion but I
get it I understand why the leadership did it,
Carl I'll defer to you I think I answered all the questions was there anything
else when I was graded was his performance so far yeah how do you think he's doing,
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he did better his last game I give him credit for that he has struggled I don't
want to be too hard. I would say a C-.
Okay. It's Summer League. So, you know, they're just playing ball right now.
So I just need to see more, you know, more structure down in the future.
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See how maybe you can come off the bench, come off, you know,
with a second unit, third unit, see more action that way.
Maybe I can get a better assessment of them. But it's summer week,
so I'm not going to beat him up too bad.
I see the stress in Carl Parker's face.
I don't know what he's thinking. Your turn, Carl Parker.
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Well, this is a tough subject for me because I really don't like on a young
basketball player at that.
I don't want to sound like I'm killing them already, but I will say this.
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Prior to him going, before he had his congenital heart issue,
he was a projected lottery pick.
Yeah, this is true. You guys realize that, right? Yeah. Oh, yep.
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Now, I will give him a little bit of grace because, you know,
he had some health issues.
And he really wasn't able to display anything throughout his college career because of that.
However, his measurables do not show that he would be anything more than a role player in the NBA.
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He's a small guy he's 6'1 really awkwardly shaped for a basketball player,
okay that's not just me i was like something i feel i'm trying i'm with you there yeah he he he he,
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He's a little bit awkward as a basketball player, shape-wise.
So he's got a few things that are
going against him for him to actually be anything more than a role player.
As far as how he's done so far, pretty much he's done what I expected him to
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be. Not really that great.
And he's, to Colin's point, he should be a point guard, but he lacks the ability to be a point guard.
That's the toughest position to play in the NBA, for one.
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And two, he just doesn't have the ball handling ability or the playmaking ability
to be able to handle that position.
So I'm with you know Jalen Brown the other day I think,
don't say it brother don't do it when they called him I don't think he's a I
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don't think he's a pro I don't think he's an NBA caliber player I think there are people out there,
I know there are people out there that are.
Better better than what he is.
That kid from the Heat destroyed him when they played him, Melandis Williams. That was an idea.
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Yeah, but he just, as Paul had stated, he just was in a weak draft class.
I think Rich Paul was very astute in bringing Bronny out at this time because
he was not going to have a chance in these next up.
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He said the same thing that with Cameron yep absolutely.
But that's pretty much my assessment I don't want to trash the young man I get
it you don't want to kill him you don't want to kill him and I don't think it'd
be kind of like fair right to but,
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yeah and if people don't know that Jalen Brown he was caught they were all looking
at this conversation when he was there where Angel Reese said was it his girlfriend
he was there with the other girl or just somebody I can't remember that was
that girl that's his lady friend right there yeah.
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He's a basketball player too is she currently playing yeah well okay I saw like
different things I was trying to figure that out because I didn't know she's
been cut from like 11 days,
she's around I don't know if she's currently But I don't think he's retired.
But Jalen Brown was caught, you know, by lip readers and just basically saying
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that Bronny James is not no pro. He ain't no pro, y'all.
It's for lip reader, and that's exactly what he said.
That's exactly what he said. That's
exactly what he said. I ain't a lip reader, but I can read them lips.
We had to follow it up With a tweet to kind of save his behind.
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And, you know, was trying to talk about him and how, you know,
he's a pro and all that stuff.
Y'all know LeBron brought the black van out there. They rolled up on him.
You know it. You know that happened.
You know that definitely happened. But, you know, the people are vicious now.
And they have been coming for Jalen Brown. And they have compared his summer
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league stats to Bronny James' summer league stats. Not summer league stats. At the same as that time.
At that time, he was, I think he was 6 for 26 or 5 for 26.
5 for 26. 6. Yeah, it wasn't very good. 6 for 26. Jalen was like 5 for 26.
In their first few games. But we knew Jalen Brown was a lottery pick.
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You know the freaks are vicious.
And they're like, oh, hey, Brownie is already showing he got a love fan.
They're like, do you have one yet?
Oh, man. He got a final MVP, though.
Who got the final MVP?
He got a ring and a final MVP.
I'm like, y'all have tried. Dominique Wilkins played with no left hand foot.
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No left hand. He made a career out of it. Yeah.
Y'all ain't never lied. Oh my God. So many people ain't never had no left hand. Yeah.
He ate it for that one. Angel Reese, she came up. She was joking about it,
I think, at the All-Star that they have now.
She just basically said, when they asked her about it, she just said,
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we done learned our lesson.
And started laughing. She's like, nope. But Angel didn't say nothing.
I mean, she was just. No, she was sitting there, though. She was sitting there looking it all in.
She's looking it all in on her phone tweet.
You know, I got to start. I brought Angel up. They in their all-star break.
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You know, I got to slide in a very quick. No, no, no. Very, very,
very quick. Rookie of the year.
Who y'all got? That's all I'm going to say. We ain't going to get into nothing.
Who's y'all rookie of the year? in the WNBA right now between Caitlyn and Angel.
They running neck and neck, buddy. I'm telling you.
No comment. I think Angel's the one as of right now, but they got a second half to go.
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That double-double record is impressive that she's continuing running well.
Caitlyn put up 19 assists the other night. The girls are balling. Give it to them.
I'm not going to do it to y'all today. Don't worry. Thank you.
Before we move on to politics, Paul.
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Brother, Carl and Parker, you know you had brought to my attention the other
day what was happening to your favorite, favorite sports commentator,
favorite sports personality.
Of all time. He's just lovely. Love Skip.
Going out the door at FS1. Apparently that's going to happen.
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Ding dong, the witch is dead. Good riddance. Are y'all out there celebrating, too? Yep, sure is.
Now I may watch FS1 again. I want to know.
Go ahead, brother. Oh, I couldn't stand that joke. I'm so glad he gone.
Has anybody watched the show since Shannon left?
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Nope. Why? Why?
That was the dumbest move that could have ever been made. Nobody watches the show for Skip.
At all. They found out the hard way. They did.
Nobody. And I just happened to cut it on a few times just to see.
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And I don't think I've ever lasted more than five minutes.
Well, you know what? I did see during football season when Richard Thurman was reading them.
And I loved that part. Oh, yeah. Richard Thurman would be on there giving on the business.
Yes. But other than that, nope.
He'd be on there with Paul Pierce and –,
What's his face? T-Shon. T-Shon. And Paul Pierce, he's, Paul Pierce has been
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just as terrible with some of his takes.
Why do they put him on TV?
What? Like, dude, you're not sitting in here, you're not around your boys right now talking.
When he tried to get word on TV, I said, oh.
I mean, how many times is this drunk going to get to be on television?
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He has said some, oh, he has said some just crude things.
He does not deserve to be on TV.
I don't know what they're about to do over there at Fox, but we're going to see.
But, you know, Skip Bayless, it is time, way past time, to give it up.
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Man is 70-something years old. That's, you got to stop.
That's a good transition for old people, actually. What did you say?
Tiger Woods be looking out there right now. Tiger Woods look terrible.
Yeah. Oh, guys. The idea I'm missing the cut shooting 14 over. Yeah.
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That's Skip Bayless. But it's the British opener. That can really get to it.
I just wish I was sharper. We all wish you were sharper, Tiger.
Those days are done. That is Skip Bayless in a nutshell. But you know what's ironic?
What? LeBron has lasted longer than Skip Bayless in terms of his trolling.
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Yeah. He has outlived the trolling.
You know LeBron is just laughing right now.
What was so funny to me, too, is ESPN was very quick.
As soon as a dude came out and said, we're not interested. Absolutely not.
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He's not on the radar. I love it.
Absolutely not interested. Oh, Skip.
But that's what sucked about him. He really made a career off of LeBron. Absolutely.
Oh, that made him. He had a career prior to that, but nobody knew about him.
Nobody knew about him. Until he called up Troy Aikman.
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He called up Troy Aikman that time. That's how we first. Oh, that's Skip Bayless.
Oh, yeah. He moved on from Troy Aikman to LeBron. That's right.
Yep. And it's just weird. I still get to go back and how that really developed
and started going. It was just weird to see.
You could tell some of it was really just forced to. And it was like,
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we're just going to create this personality. Yeah.
That and the Tebow stuff, the Tebow mania. Yeah. So it made no sense. It was not logical.
But the only good thing out of it though it did,
enhance the opportunity for people to come in and debate him so we got the debate
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style sports that we have you know more of today I do think that was a good
thing but other than that his takes were horrible the thing,
I hate is that he catapulted he,
did kind of catapult Stephen A into what he is right now. He created a monster with that.
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Right now, Stephen A, he did. And this man, I don't know what's wrong with his brother.
I don't. I can't stand it. I'll tell you offline what's wrong with him.
I can't say it right now. I want to kick his ass off.
Okay. I look forward to that offline.
But yeah, he is just this another one.
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His takes that he goes on his own show and the more political he is getting, the worse he is getting.
His takes are all over. He's the Van Jones of the sports media.
Oh, that is the perfect analogy.
Ooh. Carlin. Carlin. Yes. That's exactly who he is. Carlin.
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Man, you spot on.
He definitely is the Van Jones. Yep. jeez i didn't even think about it like
that but uh yes you're spot on with that one well let's let's get into some politics y'all.
I don't know i well one for the purpose of making content because i've been
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making content and been posting reels and being on the republican convention
but i i forced myself to watch the majority of this. You and me both.
I'm just, I knew what, I knew what to expect, but I was still even surprised
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at some of the levels that it went to in this convention.
But before this convention started, we know what happened to Trump in Pennsylvania
and this attempted assassination.
And all, you know, at first, everybody's coming out right away with their,
oh, the left and the Democrats, and this is what you do, and this is what happened, blah, blah, blah.
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Where we are today and everything we know about this boy, registered Republican.
There's some different reporting of whether or not he donated whatever money
to at Blue, whatever, $15.
Come on now. Yeah. Right.
I've heard different stories about that, though. But parents being like pro-Trump
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people and stuff in the yard. and this boy was like researching Trump,
researching Biden, researching the DNC.
It seemed like there was a lot of things going on.
And his schoolmate said that he was very conservative.
Yes. Schoolmate said he was definitely very conservative but said that he definitely
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didn't like Biden but he didn't like Trump either.
You know and stuff too like that was kind of... I think that's like Like most of America.
Yeah. Yeah. So like most of America, right? That's going on.
That's going on. So that's kind of like not the story that, you know,
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they really wanted to have here.
But the way Trump milked this assassination attempt on this speech last night, y'all.
Oh, my gosh.
I don't know. What do y'all thought?
We don't want to go into conspiracy theory land and all that stuff and everything necessarily, but,
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This moment, a lot of people right away were saying, and I got to admit,
I kind of had this feeling, too.
If it's going to shift, they was like, this attempt, you know,
and it's not happening, might.
And I've kind of changed my tune now as weeks pass.
But initially, I was kind of like, oh, my gosh, this might hand him closer to
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the presidency. How did y'all feel?
I felt my sentiments. Exactly. I thought it would catapult him into the presidency
just because it will incite,
you know, one,
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a lot of stupidity, and people will just base their opinions off of emotion versus logic.
Yes. And that's really what, how his ascension took place is all emotions built
and really didn't have any substance.
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It was just all based off of conjecture and, you know, pomp and circumstance.
And this is the biggest opportunity for them to have pomp and circumstance with
an attempt at assassination.
Yeah, I think since it happened so far out, like if this would happen closer
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to the election, I'm pretty sure what it definitely was.
But since it's so far out, so much is going to happen between now and the election
that I think even though it's something that was so monumental. Right.
And the world that Trump has created, the atmosphere, it's like on to the next.
It is. Even with an assassination attempt, it's like, well, I'm not surprised.
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Nobody's surprised by it because his rhetoric has been so deplorable for a decade
now, at least from him running for president, for the presidency.
And I just think that the Democrats took the wrong approach,
in my opinion. And like, of course, initially, like the first day it happens,
you you say you're pleasant trees.
I'm so glad this didn't happen.
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This shouldn't be, you know, violence, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
The next day they should just come out and tell the truth and keep marching forward.
You can't be civil to the devil. Like they're trying to play this semantics
politics like, oh, we have to look to the better angels and stuff like that.
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No, this is the new breed.
You have to fight these people fist to fist, face to face, toe to toe.
And just tell the truth. Donald Trump brought this on himself.
I'm going to say what the mainstream media does not want to say.
Donald Trump and his supporters, Marjorie Taylor Greene, his vice president,
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J.D. Vance, I mean, nominee J.D. Vance have created this hostility. They have created this.
So they have to reap what they sow.
So we gotta just they need to change the messaging around.
The Democrats have just messed this up so royally by eating each other right.
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I'm going to tell y'all this that attempt
has really incited his group now i mean and it's not just it's it's not just
them i mean they're bringing in those that were sometimes you know
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a little bit on the outside now they're bringing them right on in but one you
know people are going to vote for him because they're fearful of what would happen if he doesn't win.
That's true that's an interesting angle uh-huh we already saw january 6th,
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they're already i mean they've been making threats like literal literal threats
like if If they don't win,
you know, they've been saying that it's going to be a civil war as long as,
as long as, you know, people cooperate, you know, cooperate,
basically what they're saying.
Oh, that's, that's, uh, that's on the table.
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Yeah, it really is. It's like, this is just such a, a crazy, crazy political time.
Like it's like our version of you know we were around we were of age and stuff
then whenever like the 60s and 70s and stuff and those kind of political atmosphere climates this,
history i guess repeats itself because we are in the thick of some stuff right now yes,
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and it's not the time to to do things that are normal these are not normal times
so you can't with normalcy.
We're going to be the higher ground, like Michelle Obama said. I love her to death.
When they go low, we go high. No. You got to go low down with these people.
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We got to get down in the gutter with them.
I'm not going to say that part yet. I'll just wait. All right. Right.
I want to talk about some different angles and stuff. And we definitely got
to get into the Dems, too, and what's going on with Biden to get into that.
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And on this conference, I want to see what and a brother.
I'm curious, too, in North Carolina, like maybe what you might be if you hear
any black folks and stuff around you.
You know, we in a little different atmosphere in D.C. and stuff here.
But I can see how people are reacting and stuff like things I see.
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But I'm curious because the appeal to black folks and black folks primarily
and, you know, other ethnic groups that was made at this RNC, it was like none other.
I've seen that RNC's before. And night one was definitely the ethnic night,
where they had like a host of black people up there talking in.
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Then they pulled in the racially ambiguous Amber Rose, who Joy Reid put a nice
read on. Heh heh heh. But...
She good term. Ooh. But then that Vivek Rameswami, he gave...
He came out with one of his appeals to black people and he was saying like,
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I'm going to tell you what the media doesn't tell you.
It doesn't want you to know the media has been trying to keep us separated and blah, blah, blah.
But we care about you. And we, we want you to have safe homes and,
and good family, all this stuff going down this whole laundry list of,
of ready to have safe homes.
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Right. Right. In the same party where Ann Coulter already told you she wouldn't
vote for you because you're an Indian.
But anyway, but you want to tell us that this party is welcoming to everybody.
But then you had all these, last night you had that ignorant Black preacher
up there from Detroit up there doing this thing and praise it.
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Trump is protected by God. That's been a whole bit theme of this thing of how
God is protecting Trump and stuff.
But this appealed to Black folks, do you see a growing Black presence for Trump
in any kind of like your goings in North Carolina there? Yeah.
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Yeah, but I don't think it's just in North Carolina, though.
I mean, it's not. No, I've seen I know it's the presence going.
It's growing everywhere. But, you know, I don't I don't think Biden has done
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the Democrat Party any justice.
This, you know, as far as retaining a black vote anyway.
And, and, uh, for me, you, you hear a lot of conjecture and in our community,
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right now, they're just disgusted with both, both parties with both candidates.
You know, one guy had in his yard.
Why do we have to choose between these two?
But I definitely agree with that.
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And and I think that's pretty much the sentiment between between all,
you know, between most most Americans.
But black folks right now, after the assassination attempt, you know,
you got a lot of young people, unfortunately, have switched to Trump.
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And that's a lot of it is just emotional type stuff. And, you know.
Got all these social media ads out there with Trump's face on a,
on a 50 cent album cover and you know, this perp or another rap group,
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I think he's on a NWA cover.
Oh, you know that, and it's, you know, it's unfortunate that,
that we you you know, allow an incident like that to say that he relates to us.
He's more like us than the other candidate.
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He has stuff blows my mind. Anybody who thinks going to jail, he's gotten shot.
He's got this and that. And I'm like, Oh, people actually believe that people.
People, people, people just let's, let's
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really talk about the real nuts and bolts and and believe me i'm now i'm i'm
gonna tell you i'm i'm no fan of biden at all and that's i mean he he he grew
up in an era where you know uh,
segregation was, um,
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you know, a, a commonplace and,
you know, he's had some, he's had some, some terrible remarks during those times
and, you know, nobody can dispel that.
And, you know, it's all true. And then some of the legislation that he approved
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that wasn't really in African-Americans'
favor, he and Hillary Rodham Clinton, both, but...
Both parties are terrible in that respect.
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But the thing is, I feel like the messaging from the Republican Party is what's
coming through stronger.
Like the Democrats have always struggled with messaging and really talking about.
I don't understand why there isn't people out there pounding down,
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talking about Biden with this American Rescue Plan or his infrastructure law
and all these jobs that have been created and stuff and how it's helped Black
unemployment rates and stuff go down.
Like the inflation reduction act all these
things that have been done but messages
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i don't know they don't talk about stuff or they don't showcase things in a
way that people can relate to well i'm glad you brought this up this this is
where i actually wanted to go i i you know i used I was saying the same thing,
Cameron, but Barack Obama, President Obama, didn't have great.
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He didn't. We didn't have great people behind him telling him what to do.
I mean, I'm speaking out about their accomplishments.
But if you're a dynamic leader, you're supposed to be able to do that.
And that's why I struggle with why is Biden running again when he clearly is
diminished. He's not able to Sing the praises I'm just going to name some things that.
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He and Vice President Harris has done in this administration to help Black families.
Like you said, Cameron, they powered a historic economic recovery that created
2.6 million jobs for Black workers.
They helped working families build wealth in this country.
Black wealth is up 60 percent relative to the pre-pandemic, the largest increase ever on record.
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They cut in half the number of Black children living in poverty since 2021 through
the ARP child tax credit expansion.
It provided breathing room for families for over 9 million Black children who
would not, who have been, you know, stuck in poverty if not so.
And this infrastructure, they began reversing decades of infrastructure disinvestment,
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including $4 billion to reconnect communities that were previously cut off from
economic opportunities by building new transportation infrastructure and underserved
communities, including Black communities.
You know, we talk about how Jerry, these people moving into Black neighborhoods
are coming in and, you know, kicking Black people out, and they're putting things
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forward to try to reverse that. But nobody's talking about this.
Like, I'm with you, Carl. I'm not a Biden fan, but I look at him like Like President
Johnson, he was a stone-cold racist, but we got the Civil Rights Act passed through him.
Like, good things can come from people that you least expect when they're willing to do that.
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And that's what I appreciate, at least by his presidency, that he tried to reverse
some of his wrongs. He knows some things he can admit that were wrong that he did in the past.
But like you said also, Cameron, the messaging is so terrible.
And he's not able to lead in a way to describe these things because he's diminished.
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Well, he definitely shouldn't run again. He shouldn't run again.
As you stated, he's diminished. But I'm just going to say he's old.
I'm going to say what he just told us.
It happens to us. That's part of life. I mean, just what you're saying that
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Democrats shouldn't do, you just did it. we're not going to use pretty language on him. He's old.
He's old. He's old.
Sometimes he I don't know, it looks like he's almost dead up there.
It looks bad. Did you see him walking up the stairs?
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Walking down the stairs too. Walking down too, yes.
He's in a bad state and it's nothing against the geriatric community or nothing like that.
It's just at some, so there's a difference between wisdom and just being old.
Yes. You being, sometimes you gain wisdom through experiences and being at an
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older age, or sometimes you just get old and you can't remember things.
And, and he's at that, that stage of being old and you can't remember things
or you're unable to function and can't walk and can't walk.
I mean, he just should not be running.
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And I think it would counteract this campaign that Trump is running because
they basically have put all their eggs in one basket and said,
we're going to fund our campaign based off of Biden running and no other candidate.
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And all their points, all their talking points and why they may have a lead
right now is based off of...
That point exactly. They are geared towards Biden and they have a good game plan towards Biden.
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As long as they can keep Trump away from the microphone because he's just as
old and he's out here talking about Hannibal Lecter and all these other crazy stuff. So he's mad.
The big bad hole in Trump and Biden Biden is that Trump has a different personality.
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So his personality will grab, even though he is old and he probably the only
one out of those two that could have got on the ground in the manner that he
did when he, when the guy tried to assassinate him.
You got a point on that. My friend. Touche.
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But I know Cameron was asking about, you know, people here in North Carolina or black, black voters.
And Colin, you brought up some some points look like there may have been some
some points from off of his off of Biden's campaign and whatnot.
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I just do the eye test myself. So to me, family struggling, it don't matter
if you're black or white right now.
Yeah. You're right about that.
So I'm just looking for somebody that's going to provide some kind of relief.
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Now, I know I've heard some people talking about inflation not being as much as it is for groceries.
I can tell you for a fact that groceries that I got pre-COVID versus after COVID
is it's about a 200 percent increase. It's more.
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I mean, it was high, the inflation rate, because it was what,
like nine, nine percent. Yeah. Yeah.
No, inflation definitely is. It is. Yeah.
Yeah. That's the biggest issue. So we have issues there.
I know they said that there was an increase in black wealth and stuff,
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but what I'm noticing as far as with with black families is.
There are not many Black families that have blue-collar jobs anymore.
And that's, you know, your younger individuals, like younger Black people working,
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say, in the industry that I'm working in.
I work in the energy industry. And I can tell you that there are people that
make a heck of a lot of money in this industry,
you know, just people with high school diplomas,
you know, making $150,000, $180,000 a year. Right.
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And they're not African-American. you
know they're one or two you
can find but we're not
in those type of industries anymore and you know we we kind of chase getting
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a degree versus getting a trade or a skill yeah nothing Something that definitely has changed.
And so when the Republican candidates talk about these migrants or whatever,
taking black, quote unquote, black jobs.
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I think the real issue is there aren't African-Americans in those industries
that we used to actually fully.
I definitely agree with that. Yeah.
And it's definitely being framed in the legal.
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Now, that's the other one where I feel like the Republicans' message is coming
in louder and more effectively is in the illegal immigration situation.
Because we definitely have an illegal immigration issue in the country.
But to me, it's just so much more complex than whatever it's being made.
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But the Republicans have this way of making things very simple.
And people like simplicity, even though it might not really tell the full picture.
But it's like that the more simple that you made something that somebody can hold on to.
It's like, yeah, that's why I don't have that because these migrants got you
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putting them up and they're getting all this and that. But look at me. Like, look at.
Yeah, it's so it's so easy to pit.
It's crazy because you can see it every day. I called Spectrum.
I called Spectrum to come out to do some repairs at the house.
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And they sent Hispanics out.
And the Hispanics that came out, it was four of them.
Three of them could not speak a lick of English. And one of them was speaking broken English.
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So and this is we hear
a message and then you see it yeah yeah and and black folks and you got black
folks out there right now that are angry because one we have catered to some
of these illegal immigrants and giving them a whole lot more than they've given black folks amen,
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and so and a lot of that too falls and what's so crazy about it is a lot of
it falls to on the people that's doing the hiring,
yeah like that's where it falls like they know what they are,
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yeah I mean but these corporations are like I can get this labor there's Chief
I'm going with them and we know who the CEOs vote for well,
don't try to increase that bottom line man.
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It's just so many layers to this, but I get it. I totally get you.
Cause you're saying like, once you hear the message and then you see something
and you make that connection and it's like a plus B equals C like,
bam, you know, deport them all. Bam. Gone.
Yeah. And that, and that's why they went.
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That's why the Republicans are winning a lot of black people over right now
because, but the Republicans are hiring them.
Well, they sure aren't.
We know that. Thank you. We know that.
But the people that are voting don't. That's the problem.
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Their life's the problem. We know that.
And Republicans are also dumping migrants in cities themselves. Thank you.
It's it's a whole it's a it's just
a whole whole thing that's the gag they're the
ones screaming bloody murder about it but
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it's the problem they're creating and the problem is
the democrats are weak i'm sorry
people think but but then it becomes all right we take a city like new york
we take a state like new york and the city there like i don't live like i don't
know I know all the ins and outs and I'm just kind of going off of kind of thoughts
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and what I see, you know, I'm not there,
but I'm like, if I have all these people suddenly in my city,
am I supposed to just like.
Let them starve to death. What are you supposed to do in a situation like that?
You don't have the manpower to do anything as far as authorities.
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We could take that back to Obama when in 2014, when Obama said that we have
a crisis and he tried to get this bill back.
Oh gosh, I wish I could pull up that bill, but it was about how it was like
all these thousand extra hundred thousands of Border Patrol people.
It was about it was, you know, how they used to call Obama, you know, his deportation.
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Deported in chief. He had a very, very serious bill.
You know, the ideas on the table and one of the bipartisan thing worked out.
They got it worked out. And of course, what did the House do? No.
This is from Obama. We'll do our own thing. And did the Republicans do anything? No. No.
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They scream all this stuff about illegal immigration, but yet they reject every
kind of bill that comes on the table that fits it.
Because they're just playing the political game.
It's a winning issue for them. They win election after election after election
over it, and they make money off of them it's a vicious cycle.
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This and it drives me nuts it's such
a vicious cycle and the dems they're cut
like whenever your mayor's in these towns it's like well dang
how do you handle what do you do make them
sink and swim that's what they'll do with us i don't
yeah remember being called you know we had our conversation
yesterday yeah about you know
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where everybody's talking about like you know black homelessness and
all these things are going on but migrants are getting this but all these people
here if you just hear dc i i
just know dc experience and the homeless people that
we said and brother works your job you
deal with i deal with them yeah and i
was like we're not gonna pretend like all these people are homeless because
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of migrants or there aren't like things i'm here to help these people or certain
people but there are a lot of factors it is so not black and white when we talked about this issue.
And there's so much here, like DC itself, there's so much for people to be helped.
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There are a lot of programs and things out there.
But Brother knows he deals with
the real people day to day, and he knows there's a lot of mental illness.
The mental illness in our community is something that is not talked about,
out, but it is so rampant and it's so sad. It's a lot of factors.
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That mental illness.
It just comes from ignorance to health conditions that our Black community faces.
You know, our diet is what leads to a lot of this mental illness.
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Dementia, Alzheimer's, those
diseases, they impact African Americans more than any other community.
And we somehow don't have anybody champion that in our communities.
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We don't. That would be a beautiful platform.
That would be a beautiful platform. And somebody taking that.
Somebody leading that charge and
there's medical there are medical
statistics out there that show that it impacts our community more than any other
community yeah yeah and a lot of that like i said is you know our diet and our
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experiences that we go through so i'm i know You guys were talking about,
I guess, Biden and Harris were trying to reverse some of the wrongs where they
have white folks have really just moved black folks out of those inner city
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parts that they were inhabiting.
D.C. used to be Chocolate City back in the day. Oh, yeah. When I was coming
through D.C., it was a lot blacker than what it is right now. Oh, yeah.
And, and that's, and that's caused some angst and a lot of homelessness and
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a lot of, you know, mental illness in our area.
And you know, Malcolm X back in,
and it's so funny, Malcolm X said this way back when that about Republicans
and Democrat speaking in those terms is antiquated.
That was back when he was coming up. It's so true, though.
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It really is.
It's liberal or conservative. I think that's why the Black perspective is so unique.
Because what we've been through and our experience and the eyes that we can
see everything going is just different.
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We're in the last couple of minutes. This has been a really fun conversation.
There's so much more I want to talk about.
I'm just like i just want to
make one last thing while we're wrapping up here too like one thing
that's pissed me off too about the democrats too is i
understand like the biden thing and oh yeah we are here now and he absolutely
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has to get out of the race now it's just way too much noise all this yeah yeah
why did this start now and i'm like dims You had a chance to, we had candidates.
You had a, I mean, you had a chance to contest his presidency the second time
around, you know. Exactly. Why didn't he go on a challenge?
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Why didn't, why didn't nobody? Why didn't anybody step up to the plate?
Thank you. I mean, he didn't just all of a sudden get old. Y'all thought this.
Kicking myself in the butt i'm like i'm broke
but i could go up there and run a better campaign right but now this time that
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they're picking to do this it's just so god it is driving me crazy well thankfully
trump opened the door back again last night with that that horrible speech it was
terrible so it was like two
hours long yes yes it was it was
ridiculous but what if they don't hire if they don't put harris there like biden
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messed up he had opportunity he should have just handed the baton to harris
like he could have made this grand gesture like it would have played over so
well, like he was a hero to many,
but just hand it over to her.
The only thing about Harris, she has to jump to her on this.
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Yeah, she does. He's a woman. Racist and man sexism.
And I just don't think America would respect a woman.
America's not gonna like a woman. Would respect a woman candidate.
Of it so and the people
don't want that's the thing too but who's it gonna be that would
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i see that's the problem they don't put themselves in this in
this predicament now and then
they don't realize there are rules and nobody really knows
the rules or understands them and they're about to really get themselves in
trouble because they they about to mess up and and do something and who's who
are the courts the mega courts and republicans hands to them and he's going
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to go to the Supreme Court and we know how that's going to go.
And once they get back in office again, watch what them courts look like after
that. Oh, if he wins, it's over.
If Trump wins, our generation is done. We're lost.
We got to hope better for the future ones coming up.
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Because we're done. That's true. That's true.
Brothers, we got to continue. It's so much more to get into and stuff.
I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation as always.
Yes, brother. I feel better. I'm getting this off my chest now.
I know. I don't want to feel too down going out, but I feel kind of a little dark and gloomy.
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I'm going to tell you, I'm not very optimistic. I'm just going to tell you that right now.
We're going to lose. I'm not very optimistic. President.
I know for a fact if Biden stays in the race, it's over.
All right. Well, on that note, that's the couch, y'all. And our thoughts.
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All right, Tater Tots. See you, brothers.
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Music.
Music.
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Music.
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It's not even your season yet, or has it rolled over?
No. No. No, no, we got a long way to go. We got a long way.
Yeah, we got Leo to go. It's not even your season yet. It's not even my season.
Calm down. Every day. Anyway.
We got a million over this earth, so I'm. Oh, gosh.
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Here we go. Well, I'm glad. I'm glad that you're doing so well,
brother, and that you have had a great day.
I'm very happy for you thank you
what about you carlin well carl parker jr what what did he done did already
well he was about to say something that he shouldn't have and my angel just
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dispersed and cut him off,
can you hear me now yes go ahead,
yes i'm not gonna say what i was gonna say i don't know if you heard what i said,
but i am great thank you i'm the middle child so nobody cares and i'm right
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so i don't know you even asked me oh that's the truest thing you said all day
absolutely in quite some time.
You know i love y'all i'm myself
i am i'm feeling good i'm glad to be here
with my brothers and connect and we got a lot of stuff to get into today
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we got the olympics coming up you
know we on the countdown one week we're gonna
be watching opening ceremonies and so
we got to of getting a little bit of b-ball you know what we love
and how the boys are looking right now and
what's going on that way and we have a lot of politics
to get to the rnc convention just wrapped
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up we all know the attempted assassination on
trump and all this stuff and everything going in into that and allegedly all
in a part allegedly meanwhile at the same time stop it carlin him we we talk
it we talk it over that because we're not trying to get this podcast canceled so right now,
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I didn't hear a word that he said. But anyway.
Since we're going to save the political talk last, let's start off with some Olympics brothers.
Sounds good. Let's talk about some basketball real quick.
I want to know how y'all are feeling about this team.
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Because I've been reading some stuff, too, like head to toe.
So some people might be saying this might be one of the best teams that is going
to be in the running with the best teams that we've had to showcase in the Olympics with this roster.
Do you concur? Well, I'm going to go because I actually do concur.
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I know some people may not think so on this podcast that we're doing today.
But I think it has a chance to be like the third iteration of like the great teams.
Like, you know, I had the dream team, then the redeem team or whatever they were called.
And this thing, I think it's pretty solid.
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I'm not happy with Jalen Brown being off the team. I know we're probably going to get there.
I think they could have definitely used this defense and timely shooting because
he can knock down a three, just as good as Derek White can.
And I'm a little concerned about our depth in terms of the size on the team. That's the problem.
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But other than that, I think we have the ability to really lock down on defense
if they really play hard on the defensive end.
I think that's where their calling card would be more so than on the offensive
end because I can see us going into struggles offensively at certain points.
But I do think if it has an opportunity, I don't know if it will come to fruition.
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And we will see, but yeah, I'm one of those believers.
It's a nostalgic thing for sure uh however
i don't i don't think it's on par
with the dream team i i just think the the
relative age of the stars that are on this team kind of diminishes that factor
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however they they are a pretty solid team i will give them that and i i do I do concur with Carlin.
I'm not thrilled with the fact that Jalen Brown was left off the team,
but I know there are extenuating circumstances for that.
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B, one, he's a Muslim.
Uh-oh. He's too outspoken. That's not what I expected. You're talking about B.
Wait, what was number two? Two, he's too outspoken. just like Kyrie Irving.
And three, he does not belong to the Nike gang.
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I think that should be one. That should be number one. Me too, Cameron.
No. The Muslim part is number one because that is a big issue.
That's why he doesn't get the love out of Boston that he should because he's a devout Muslim.
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But but I'm not going to tarry on that part. We'll talk about this team.
So I think the addition of Derek White.
Does, there's one reason why
he's there and it's because of his defense in the, in the guard position.
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So some teams, some teams in the, in this Olympic, in these Olympics are guard
heavy and their strength is in the guard position.
And Derrick White and Jeru Holliday are two of the most dynamic guard,
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locked down defenders at the guard position.
I mean, you're not going to find any, any better at their position,
you know, defending now, Jaylen Brown is a heck of a defender itself,
but I think Anthony Edwards gives you that in spades as well in that position.
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Excellent point. he's a
he's a he's a lockdown defender as far as
the bigs we are soft
in the big category but i
am going to give kudos to anthony davis
and bam at a bio they are the ones that are holding down the fort joel mb was
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not the right person to have over there in these olympics he he's trying to draw fouls like he's in.
That's just not going to work over there. It's not going to happen. So,
I think that was a miss on their part on getting that guy to be over there.
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You know, he's talented in the league, but clearly it shows in these games that
he doesn't fit the Olympic game. Yeah.
The big man part, I was curious.
I have been thinking about this because, you know, I love for bigs.
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Kind of just like we grew up all like loving post play and playing on a post and doing all that.
Like I've been missing just that art itself in basketball.
And I think this team is just like really reflecting that.
And it's the part that has me worried because we are so – I think you said it
earlier, Carl, on how paper thin we are there.
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Yeah, very thin. Like if we get in foul trouble or somebody gets injured.
If somebody gets in foul trouble and something goes on.
And, I mean, we got some – I don't even know Durant's status right now with
his – I think he practiced today, if I'm not mistaken. Okay. Yeah.
Well, he's not a true big. No, but he's not a true big.
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And I was like, we have, like, tall-like people, but you know how the game ends
a ball, and everybody want to be outside right now and around a three-point
line, and how the game ends extended that way.
I'm just – it just has me a little paranoid, what potential we could have. I agree.
The Europeans banged. Yeah. It's been like that for years.
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I know even when I played overseas, those guys have always been fundamentally
sound, have good footwork.
They never were that athletic, although some are getting a little bit more athleticism.
True. but they are fundamentally sound, and they will beat you to death in that paint.
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That's why the Joker really, he can't jump over a phone book,
but that son of a gun will wear you out.
That's so true. When Serbia is supposed to be, like, one of,
you know, one of their biggest rivals or contenders right now,
and they put it to them just a couple of days ago here.
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I think Serbia will be a lot tougher than the Olympics, though.
I think I do, too. Yeah. I think it's going to be a path.
I do, too. That's a tough opening game.
I think Serbia is going to be tough. I think Germany is going to be tough.
Mm-hmm. and it's going to be tough
france is going to be tough and canada canada
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canada canada has a lot of boats yeah in australia all the like the whole it's
just such a different landscape now it's so many nba players and former nba
players on these squads and stuff too so it's it's a whole night And the sidelines as well.
A lot of the coaches are former NBA players a lot too. Yeah. From the places.
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Exactly. What I will give this group is that they probably have the toughest
road versus – They got the toughest.
It's definitely the toughest out of the top teams that we've had.
Out of the teams in the pants. Yeah. Like the dream team was playing the league out of deaf and blind.
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They were taking autographs autographs we have to be there definitely.
Definitely looking forward to it and we're going to have a lot of Olympic talk
going on we're going to save some of the other Olympic stuff we have some stuff
to talk about next week when we get into opening ceremonies and these games
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start off but I just love I was going to ask a question I guess I'll save that for what you thinking
about sneaking in there oh did y'all hear about anthony edwards saying that
he should take the last sound or be the go-to guy if we really need a bucket
out of our team yeah yeah don't think about that,
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That's just the young guy trying to flex his muscles a little bit.
He's wanting to be a little baby Jordan, but it's going to be Steph or KD for me.
Oh, it's going to be KD for me. I want KD taking the last shot.
Yeah. It's going to be one of those two. It's going to be one of those two. Yeah.
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It's going to be one of those two. I agree with that.
Yeah. Those two, they're tried and true, and their J's are just too wet.
I mean, their arsenal is just a little bit better than the young fellas.
Oh, yeah. KD's untouchable. You can't come close to dropping his shot.
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I love the young fella. Love the confidence. I love the brass and all that stuff, but settle down.
Yeah. Thank you. Okay. It's okay. Somebody give him a lollipop and tell him to go sit down.
It's not a lollipop. I'm screaming.
I still want to keep it basketball a little bit and get into,
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we haven't discussed, at least on the podcast and everything.
Oh, no. Oh, no. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
Don't be saying, oh, no, you don't know where I'm going. Or maybe you do.
I don't know. Maybe I'm not going where you think I'm going.
But we haven't discussed Mr. Bronny James in this situation no yeah.
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You knew where I was going.
We were hoping not, but here we go. Here we are.
So, Brian, what was he, number 55?
I want to say pick or something. Yeah, I think 55 is correct.
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I don't think it was. Maybe for a few it was a shock.
I don't know. The draft was not very strong, and I saw this coming anyway.
I just knew this was going to happen, that LeBron was going to orchestrate this.
Me, personally, I didn't really have an issue with him being drafted, per se. I understand.
Maybe some issues down the road kind of thing. Whenever it came out so quickly,
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too, that he had a four-year contract, then I was a little confused.
But it's like, when you second round, 50-pick?
But anyway, now that all the eyes are on the summer league and everybody's just
talking about Bronny, Bronny, Bronny.
And I'm just like, oh, my gosh, here we go again.
But how would you rate his performance so far?
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How would you rate the circus show that started? And what do you think about
him being drafted in the first place?
Maybe some of y'all have an issue with it to start.
Caroline, I'll defer to you again for you to start it off. I have a lot of Okay,
I'll break the ice here Okay for me.
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I Have a problem with him being drafted because the draft was so very weak.
He's a second-round pick You know those don't last very long normally in the league. I.
LBJ flexing his nepotism. White people have done it forever, so I don't care.
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Go ahead. Flex your nepotism. You have the power.
I'm 100% behind that. Absolutely. Agreed.
Agreed. In terms of how I project Bronny to be, he's getting the opportunity.
I just hope he's a solid role player in the league. I think he can progress
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to maybe being a player of the league.
I just think they put Mason from that point guard, in my opinion,
like why they have me a shooting guard is what I've seen him play.
Or why he's not bringing the ball up the court. I think he would maybe drive
better that way in the future.
The four-year contract, that was just, you know, strange.
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I mean, it's the Lakers move. I understand they want to appease LeBron.
But to me it just doesn't make a lot of sense to do that in my opinion but I
get it I understand why the leadership did it,
Carl I'll defer to you I think I answered all the questions was there anything
else when I was graded was his performance so far yeah how do you think he's doing,
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he did better his last game I give him credit for that he has struggled I don't
want to be too hard. I would say a C-.
Okay. It's Summer League. So, you know, they're just playing ball right now.
So I just need to see more, you know, more structure down in the future.
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See how maybe you can come off the bench, come off, you know,
with a second unit, third unit, see more action that way.
Maybe I can get a better assessment of them. But it's summer week,
so I'm not going to beat him up too bad.
I see the stress in Carl Parker's face.
I don't know what he's thinking. Your turn, Carl Parker.
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Well, this is a tough subject for me because I really don't like on a young
basketball player at that.
I don't want to sound like I'm killing them already, but I will say this.
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Prior to him going, before he had his congenital heart issue,
he was a projected lottery pick.
Yeah, this is true. You guys realize that, right? Yeah. Oh, yep.
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Now, I will give him a little bit of grace because, you know,
he had some health issues.
And he really wasn't able to display anything throughout his college career because of that.
However, his measurables do not show that he would be anything more than a role player in the NBA.
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He's a small guy he's 6'1 really awkwardly shaped for a basketball player,
okay that's not just me i was like something i feel i'm trying i'm with you there yeah he he he he,
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He's a little bit awkward as a basketball player, shape-wise.
So he's got a few things that are
going against him for him to actually be anything more than a role player.
As far as how he's done so far, pretty much he's done what I expected him to
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be. Not really that great.
And he's, to Colin's point, he should be a point guard, but he lacks the ability to be a point guard.
That's the toughest position to play in the NBA, for one.
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And two, he just doesn't have the ball handling ability or the playmaking ability
to be able to handle that position.
So I'm with you know Jalen Brown the other day I think,
don't say it brother don't do it when they called him I don't think he's a I
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don't think he's a pro I don't think he's an NBA caliber player I think there are people out there,
I know there are people out there that are.
Better better than what he is.
That kid from the Heat destroyed him when they played him, Melandis Williams. That was an idea.
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Yeah, but he just, as Paul had stated, he just was in a weak draft class.
I think Rich Paul was very astute in bringing Bronny out at this time because
he was not going to have a chance in these next up.
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He said the same thing that with Cameron yep absolutely.
But that's pretty much my assessment I don't want to trash the young man I get
it you don't want to kill him you don't want to kill him and I don't think it'd
be kind of like fair right to but,
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yeah and if people don't know that Jalen Brown he was caught they were all looking
at this conversation when he was there where Angel Reese said was it his girlfriend
he was there with the other girl or just somebody I can't remember that was
that girl that's his lady friend right there yeah.
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He's a basketball player too is she currently playing yeah well okay I saw like
different things I was trying to figure that out because I didn't know she's
been cut from like 11 days,
she's around I don't know if she's currently But I don't think he's retired.
But Jalen Brown was caught, you know, by lip readers and just basically saying
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that Bronny James is not no pro. He ain't no pro, y'all.
It's for lip reader, and that's exactly what he said.
That's exactly what he said. That's
exactly what he said. I ain't a lip reader, but I can read them lips.
We had to follow it up With a tweet to kind of save his behind.
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And, you know, was trying to talk about him and how, you know,
he's a pro and all that stuff.
Y'all know LeBron brought the black van out there. They rolled up on him.
You know it. You know that happened.
You know that definitely happened. But, you know, the people are vicious now.
And they have been coming for Jalen Brown. And they have compared his summer
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league stats to Bronny James' summer league stats. Not summer league stats. At the same as that time.
At that time, he was, I think he was 6 for 26 or 5 for 26.
5 for 26. 6. Yeah, it wasn't very good. 6 for 26. Jalen was like 5 for 26.
In their first few games. But we knew Jalen Brown was a lottery pick.
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You know the freaks are vicious.
And they're like, oh, hey, Brownie is already showing he got a love fan.
They're like, do you have one yet?
Oh, man. He got a final MVP, though.
Who got the final MVP?
He got a ring and a final MVP.
I'm like, y'all have tried. Dominique Wilkins played with no left hand foot.
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No left hand. He made a career out of it. Yeah.
Y'all ain't never lied. Oh my God. So many people ain't never had no left hand. Yeah.
He ate it for that one. Angel Reese, she came up. She was joking about it,
I think, at the All-Star that they have now.
She just basically said, when they asked her about it, she just said,
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we done learned our lesson.
And started laughing. She's like, nope. But Angel didn't say nothing.
I mean, she was just. No, she was sitting there, though. She was sitting there looking it all in.
She's looking it all in on her phone tweet.
You know, I got to start. I brought Angel up. They in their all-star break.
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You know, I got to slide in a very quick. No, no, no. Very, very,
very quick. Rookie of the year.
Who y'all got? That's all I'm going to say. We ain't going to get into nothing.
Who's y'all rookie of the year? in the WNBA right now between Caitlyn and Angel.
They running neck and neck, buddy. I'm telling you.
No comment. I think Angel's the one as of right now, but they got a second half to go.
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That double-double record is impressive that she's continuing running well.
Caitlyn put up 19 assists the other night. The girls are balling. Give it to them.
I'm not going to do it to y'all today. Don't worry. Thank you.
Before we move on to politics, Paul.
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Brother, Carl and Parker, you know you had brought to my attention the other
day what was happening to your favorite, favorite sports commentator,
favorite sports personality.
Of all time. He's just lovely. Love Skip.
Going out the door at FS1. Apparently that's going to happen.
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Ding dong, the witch is dead. Good riddance. Are y'all out there celebrating, too? Yep, sure is.
Now I may watch FS1 again. I want to know.
Go ahead, brother. Oh, I couldn't stand that joke. I'm so glad he gone.
Has anybody watched the show since Shannon left?
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Nope. Why? Why?
That was the dumbest move that could have ever been made. Nobody watches the show for Skip.
At all. They found out the hard way. They did.
Nobody. And I just happened to cut it on a few times just to see.
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And I don't think I've ever lasted more than five minutes.
Well, you know what? I did see during football season when Richard Thurman was reading them.
And I loved that part. Oh, yeah. Richard Thurman would be on there giving on the business.
Yes. But other than that, nope.
He'd be on there with Paul Pierce and –,
What's his face? T-Shon. T-Shon. And Paul Pierce, he's, Paul Pierce has been
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just as terrible with some of his takes.
Why do they put him on TV?
What? Like, dude, you're not sitting in here, you're not around your boys right now talking.
When he tried to get word on TV, I said, oh.
I mean, how many times is this drunk going to get to be on television?
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He has said some, oh, he has said some just crude things.
He does not deserve to be on TV.
I don't know what they're about to do over there at Fox, but we're going to see.
But, you know, Skip Bayless, it is time, way past time, to give it up.
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Man is 70-something years old. That's, you got to stop.
That's a good transition for old people, actually. What did you say?
Tiger Woods be looking out there right now. Tiger Woods look terrible.
Yeah. Oh, guys. The idea I'm missing the cut shooting 14 over. Yeah.
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That's Skip Bayless. But it's the British opener. That can really get to it.
I just wish I was sharper. We all wish you were sharper, Tiger.
Those days are done. That is Skip Bayless in a nutshell. But you know what's ironic?
What? LeBron has lasted longer than Skip Bayless in terms of his trolling.
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Yeah. He has outlived the trolling.
You know LeBron is just laughing right now.
What was so funny to me, too, is ESPN was very quick.
As soon as a dude came out and said, we're not interested. Absolutely not.
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He's not on the radar. I love it.
Absolutely not interested. Oh, Skip.
But that's what sucked about him. He really made a career off of LeBron. Absolutely.
Oh, that made him. He had a career prior to that, but nobody knew about him.
Nobody knew about him. Until he called up Troy Aikman.
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He called up Troy Aikman that time. That's how we first. Oh, that's Skip Bayless.
Oh, yeah. He moved on from Troy Aikman to LeBron. That's right.
Yep. And it's just weird. I still get to go back and how that really developed
and started going. It was just weird to see.
You could tell some of it was really just forced to. And it was like,
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we're just going to create this personality. Yeah.
That and the Tebow stuff, the Tebow mania. Yeah. So it made no sense. It was not logical.
But the only good thing out of it though it did,
enhance the opportunity for people to come in and debate him so we got the debate
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style sports that we have you know more of today I do think that was a good
thing but other than that his takes were horrible the thing,
I hate is that he catapulted he,
did kind of catapult Stephen A into what he is right now. He created a monster with that.
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Right now, Stephen A, he did. And this man, I don't know what's wrong with his brother.
I don't. I can't stand it. I'll tell you offline what's wrong with him.
I can't say it right now. I want to kick his ass off.
Okay. I look forward to that offline.
But yeah, he is just this another one.
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His takes that he goes on his own show and the more political he is getting, the worse he is getting.
His takes are all over. He's the Van Jones of the sports media.
Oh, that is the perfect analogy.
Ooh. Carlin. Carlin. Yes. That's exactly who he is. Carlin.
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Man, you spot on.
He definitely is the Van Jones. Yep. jeez i didn't even think about it like
that but uh yes you're spot on with that one well let's let's get into some politics y'all.
I don't know i well one for the purpose of making content because i've been
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making content and been posting reels and being on the republican convention
but i i forced myself to watch the majority of this. You and me both.
I'm just, I knew what, I knew what to expect, but I was still even surprised
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at some of the levels that it went to in this convention.
But before this convention started, we know what happened to Trump in Pennsylvania
and this attempted assassination.
And all, you know, at first, everybody's coming out right away with their,
oh, the left and the Democrats, and this is what you do, and this is what happened, blah, blah, blah.
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Where we are today and everything we know about this boy, registered Republican.
There's some different reporting of whether or not he donated whatever money
to at Blue, whatever, $15.
Come on now. Yeah. Right.
I've heard different stories about that, though. But parents being like pro-Trump
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people and stuff in the yard. and this boy was like researching Trump,
researching Biden, researching the DNC.
It seemed like there was a lot of things going on.
And his schoolmate said that he was very conservative.
Yes. Schoolmate said he was definitely very conservative but said that he definitely
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didn't like Biden but he didn't like Trump either.
You know and stuff too like that was kind of... I think that's like Like most of America.
Yeah. Yeah. So like most of America, right? That's going on.
That's going on. So that's kind of like not the story that, you know,
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they really wanted to have here.
But the way Trump milked this assassination attempt on this speech last night, y'all.
Oh, my gosh.
I don't know. What do y'all thought?
We don't want to go into conspiracy theory land and all that stuff and everything necessarily, but,
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This moment, a lot of people right away were saying, and I got to admit,
I kind of had this feeling, too.
If it's going to shift, they was like, this attempt, you know,
and it's not happening, might.
And I've kind of changed my tune now as weeks pass.
But initially, I was kind of like, oh, my gosh, this might hand him closer to
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the presidency. How did y'all feel?
I felt my sentiments. Exactly. I thought it would catapult him into the presidency
just because it will incite,
you know, one,
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a lot of stupidity, and people will just base their opinions off of emotion versus logic.
Yes. And that's really what, how his ascension took place is all emotions built
and really didn't have any substance.
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It was just all based off of conjecture and, you know, pomp and circumstance.
And this is the biggest opportunity for them to have pomp and circumstance with
an attempt at assassination.
Yeah, I think since it happened so far out, like if this would happen closer
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to the election, I'm pretty sure what it definitely was.
But since it's so far out, so much is going to happen between now and the election
that I think even though it's something that was so monumental. Right.
And the world that Trump has created, the atmosphere, it's like on to the next.
It is. Even with an assassination attempt, it's like, well, I'm not surprised.
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Nobody's surprised by it because his rhetoric has been so deplorable for a decade
now, at least from him running for president, for the presidency.
And I just think that the Democrats took the wrong approach,
in my opinion. And like, of course, initially, like the first day it happens,
you you say you're pleasant trees.
I'm so glad this didn't happen.
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This shouldn't be, you know, violence, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
The next day they should just come out and tell the truth and keep marching forward.
You can't be civil to the devil. Like they're trying to play this semantics
politics like, oh, we have to look to the better angels and stuff like that.
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No, this is the new breed.
You have to fight these people fist to fist, face to face, toe to toe.
And just tell the truth. Donald Trump brought this on himself.
I'm going to say what the mainstream media does not want to say.
Donald Trump and his supporters, Marjorie Taylor Greene, his vice president,
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J.D. Vance, I mean, nominee J.D. Vance have created this hostility. They have created this.
So they have to reap what they sow.
So we gotta just they need to change the messaging around.
The Democrats have just messed this up so royally by eating each other right.
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I'm going to tell y'all this that attempt
has really incited his group now i mean and it's not just it's it's not just
them i mean they're bringing in those that were sometimes you know
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a little bit on the outside now they're bringing them right on in but one you
know people are going to vote for him because they're fearful of what would happen if he doesn't win.
That's true that's an interesting angle uh-huh we already saw january 6th,
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they're already i mean they've been making threats like literal literal threats
like if If they don't win,
you know, they've been saying that it's going to be a civil war as long as,
as long as, you know, people cooperate, you know, cooperate,
basically what they're saying.
Oh, that's, that's, uh, that's on the table.
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Yeah, it really is. It's like, this is just such a, a crazy, crazy political time.
Like it's like our version of you know we were around we were of age and stuff
then whenever like the 60s and 70s and stuff and those kind of political atmosphere climates this,
history i guess repeats itself because we are in the thick of some stuff right now yes,
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and it's not the time to to do things that are normal these are not normal times
so you can't with normalcy.
We're going to be the higher ground, like Michelle Obama said. I love her to death.
When they go low, we go high. No. You got to go low down with these people.
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We got to get down in the gutter with them.
I'm not going to say that part yet. I'll just wait. All right. Right.
I want to talk about some different angles and stuff. And we definitely got
to get into the Dems, too, and what's going on with Biden to get into that.
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And on this conference, I want to see what and a brother.
I'm curious, too, in North Carolina, like maybe what you might be if you hear
any black folks and stuff around you.
You know, we in a little different atmosphere in D.C. and stuff here.
But I can see how people are reacting and stuff like things I see.
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But I'm curious because the appeal to black folks and black folks primarily
and, you know, other ethnic groups that was made at this RNC, it was like none other.
I've seen that RNC's before. And night one was definitely the ethnic night,
where they had like a host of black people up there talking in.
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Then they pulled in the racially ambiguous Amber Rose, who Joy Reid put a nice
read on. Heh heh heh. But...
She good term. Ooh. But then that Vivek Rameswami, he gave...
He came out with one of his appeals to black people and he was saying like,
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I'm going to tell you what the media doesn't tell you.
It doesn't want you to know the media has been trying to keep us separated and blah, blah, blah.
But we care about you. And we, we want you to have safe homes and,
and good family, all this stuff going down this whole laundry list of,
of ready to have safe homes.
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Right. Right. In the same party where Ann Coulter already told you she wouldn't
vote for you because you're an Indian.
But anyway, but you want to tell us that this party is welcoming to everybody.
But then you had all these, last night you had that ignorant Black preacher
up there from Detroit up there doing this thing and praise it.
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Trump is protected by God. That's been a whole bit theme of this thing of how
God is protecting Trump and stuff.
But this appealed to Black folks, do you see a growing Black presence for Trump
in any kind of like your goings in North Carolina there? Yeah.
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Yeah, but I don't think it's just in North Carolina, though.
I mean, it's not. No, I've seen I know it's the presence going.
It's growing everywhere. But, you know, I don't I don't think Biden has done
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the Democrat Party any justice.
This, you know, as far as retaining a black vote anyway.
And, and, uh, for me, you, you hear a lot of conjecture and in our community,
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right now, they're just disgusted with both, both parties with both candidates.
You know, one guy had in his yard.
Why do we have to choose between these two?
But I definitely agree with that.
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And and I think that's pretty much the sentiment between between all,
you know, between most most Americans.
But black folks right now, after the assassination attempt, you know,
you got a lot of young people, unfortunately, have switched to Trump.
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And that's a lot of it is just emotional type stuff. And, you know.
Got all these social media ads out there with Trump's face on a,
on a 50 cent album cover and you know, this perp or another rap group,
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I think he's on a NWA cover.
Oh, you know that, and it's, you know, it's unfortunate that,
that we you you know, allow an incident like that to say that he relates to us.
He's more like us than the other candidate.
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He has stuff blows my mind. Anybody who thinks going to jail, he's gotten shot.
He's got this and that. And I'm like, Oh, people actually believe that people.
People, people, people just let's, let's
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really talk about the real nuts and bolts and and believe me i'm now i'm i'm
gonna tell you i'm i'm no fan of biden at all and that's i mean he he he grew
up in an era where you know uh,
segregation was, um,
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you know, a, a commonplace and,
you know, he's had some, he's had some, some terrible remarks during those times
and, you know, nobody can dispel that.
And, you know, it's all true. And then some of the legislation that he approved
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that wasn't really in African-Americans'
favor, he and Hillary Rodham Clinton, both, but...
Both parties are terrible in that respect.
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But the thing is, I feel like the messaging from the Republican Party is what's
coming through stronger.
Like the Democrats have always struggled with messaging and really talking about.
I don't understand why there isn't people out there pounding down,
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talking about Biden with this American Rescue Plan or his infrastructure law
and all these jobs that have been created and stuff and how it's helped Black
unemployment rates and stuff go down.
Like the inflation reduction act all these
things that have been done but messages
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i don't know they don't talk about stuff or they don't showcase things in a
way that people can relate to well i'm glad you brought this up this this is
where i actually wanted to go i i you know i used I was saying the same thing,
Cameron, but Barack Obama, President Obama, didn't have great.
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He didn't. We didn't have great people behind him telling him what to do.
I mean, I'm speaking out about their accomplishments.
But if you're a dynamic leader, you're supposed to be able to do that.
And that's why I struggle with why is Biden running again when he clearly is
diminished. He's not able to Sing the praises I'm just going to name some things that.
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He and Vice President Harris has done in this administration to help Black families.
Like you said, Cameron, they powered a historic economic recovery that created
2.6 million jobs for Black workers.
They helped working families build wealth in this country.
Black wealth is up 60 percent relative to the pre-pandemic, the largest increase ever on record.
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They cut in half the number of Black children living in poverty since 2021 through
the ARP child tax credit expansion.
It provided breathing room for families for over 9 million Black children who
would not, who have been, you know, stuck in poverty if not so.
And this infrastructure, they began reversing decades of infrastructure disinvestment,
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including $4 billion to reconnect communities that were previously cut off from
economic opportunities by building new transportation infrastructure and underserved
communities, including Black communities.
You know, we talk about how Jerry, these people moving into Black neighborhoods
are coming in and, you know, kicking Black people out, and they're putting things
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forward to try to reverse that. But nobody's talking about this.
Like, I'm with you, Carl. I'm not a Biden fan, but I look at him like Like President
Johnson, he was a stone-cold racist, but we got the Civil Rights Act passed through him.
Like, good things can come from people that you least expect when they're willing to do that.
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And that's what I appreciate, at least by his presidency, that he tried to reverse
some of his wrongs. He knows some things he can admit that were wrong that he did in the past.
But like you said also, Cameron, the messaging is so terrible.
And he's not able to lead in a way to describe these things because he's diminished.
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Well, he definitely shouldn't run again. He shouldn't run again.
As you stated, he's diminished. But I'm just going to say he's old.
I'm going to say what he just told us.
It happens to us. That's part of life. I mean, just what you're saying that
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Democrats shouldn't do, you just did it. we're not going to use pretty language on him. He's old.
He's old. He's old.
Sometimes he I don't know, it looks like he's almost dead up there.
It looks bad. Did you see him walking up the stairs?
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Walking down the stairs too. Walking down too, yes.
He's in a bad state and it's nothing against the geriatric community or nothing like that.
It's just at some, so there's a difference between wisdom and just being old.
Yes. You being, sometimes you gain wisdom through experiences and being at an
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older age, or sometimes you just get old and you can't remember things.
And, and he's at that, that stage of being old and you can't remember things
or you're unable to function and can't walk and can't walk.
I mean, he just should not be running.
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And I think it would counteract this campaign that Trump is running because
they basically have put all their eggs in one basket and said,
we're going to fund our campaign based off of Biden running and no other candidate.
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And all their points, all their talking points and why they may have a lead
right now is based off of...
That point exactly. They are geared towards Biden and they have a good game plan towards Biden.
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As long as they can keep Trump away from the microphone because he's just as
old and he's out here talking about Hannibal Lecter and all these other crazy stuff. So he's mad.
The big bad hole in Trump and Biden Biden is that Trump has a different personality.
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So his personality will grab, even though he is old and he probably the only
one out of those two that could have got on the ground in the manner that he
did when he, when the guy tried to assassinate him.
You got a point on that. My friend. Touche.
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But I know Cameron was asking about, you know, people here in North Carolina or black, black voters.
And Colin, you brought up some some points look like there may have been some
some points from off of his off of Biden's campaign and whatnot.
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I just do the eye test myself. So to me, family struggling, it don't matter
if you're black or white right now.
Yeah. You're right about that.
So I'm just looking for somebody that's going to provide some kind of relief.
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Now, I know I've heard some people talking about inflation not being as much as it is for groceries.
I can tell you for a fact that groceries that I got pre-COVID versus after COVID
is it's about a 200 percent increase. It's more.
(54:14):
I mean, it was high, the inflation rate, because it was what,
like nine, nine percent. Yeah. Yeah.
No, inflation definitely is. It is. Yeah.
Yeah. That's the biggest issue. So we have issues there.
I know they said that there was an increase in black wealth and stuff,
(54:38):
but what I'm noticing as far as with with black families is.
There are not many Black families that have blue-collar jobs anymore.
And that's, you know, your younger individuals, like younger Black people working,
(55:02):
say, in the industry that I'm working in.
I work in the energy industry. And I can tell you that there are people that
make a heck of a lot of money in this industry,
you know, just people with high school diplomas,
you know, making $150,000, $180,000 a year. Right.
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And they're not African-American. you
know they're one or two you
can find but we're not
in those type of industries anymore and you know we we kind of chase getting
(55:47):
a degree versus getting a trade or a skill yeah nothing Something that definitely has changed.
And so when the Republican candidates talk about these migrants or whatever,
taking black, quote unquote, black jobs.
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I think the real issue is there aren't African-Americans in those industries
that we used to actually fully.
I definitely agree with that. Yeah.
And it's definitely being framed in the legal.
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Now, that's the other one where I feel like the Republicans' message is coming
in louder and more effectively is in the illegal immigration situation.
Because we definitely have an illegal immigration issue in the country.
But to me, it's just so much more complex than whatever it's being made.
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But the Republicans have this way of making things very simple.
And people like simplicity, even though it might not really tell the full picture.
But it's like that the more simple that you made something that somebody can hold on to.
It's like, yeah, that's why I don't have that because these migrants got you
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putting them up and they're getting all this and that. But look at me. Like, look at.
Yeah, it's so it's so easy to pit.
It's crazy because you can see it every day. I called Spectrum.
I called Spectrum to come out to do some repairs at the house.
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And they sent Hispanics out.
And the Hispanics that came out, it was four of them.
Three of them could not speak a lick of English. And one of them was speaking broken English.
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So and this is we hear
a message and then you see it yeah yeah and and black folks and you got black
folks out there right now that are angry because one we have catered to some
of these illegal immigrants and giving them a whole lot more than they've given black folks amen,
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and so and a lot of that too falls and what's so crazy about it is a lot of
it falls to on the people that's doing the hiring,
yeah like that's where it falls like they know what they are,
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yeah I mean but these corporations are like I can get this labor there's Chief
I'm going with them and we know who the CEOs vote for well,
don't try to increase that bottom line man.
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It's just so many layers to this, but I get it. I totally get you.
Cause you're saying like, once you hear the message and then you see something
and you make that connection and it's like a plus B equals C like,
bam, you know, deport them all. Bam. Gone.
Yeah. And that, and that's why they went.
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That's why the Republicans are winning a lot of black people over right now
because, but the Republicans are hiring them.
Well, they sure aren't.
We know that. Thank you. We know that.
But the people that are voting don't. That's the problem.
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Their life's the problem. We know that.
And Republicans are also dumping migrants in cities themselves. Thank you.
It's it's a whole it's a it's just
a whole whole thing that's the gag they're the
ones screaming bloody murder about it but
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it's the problem they're creating and the problem is
the democrats are weak i'm sorry
people think but but then it becomes all right we take a city like new york
we take a state like new york and the city there like i don't live like i don't
know I know all the ins and outs and I'm just kind of going off of kind of thoughts
(01:00:39):
and what I see, you know, I'm not there,
but I'm like, if I have all these people suddenly in my city,
am I supposed to just like.
Let them starve to death. What are you supposed to do in a situation like that?
You don't have the manpower to do anything as far as authorities.
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We could take that back to Obama when in 2014, when Obama said that we have
a crisis and he tried to get this bill back.
Oh gosh, I wish I could pull up that bill, but it was about how it was like
all these thousand extra hundred thousands of Border Patrol people.
It was about it was, you know, how they used to call Obama, you know, his deportation.
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Deported in chief. He had a very, very serious bill.
You know, the ideas on the table and one of the bipartisan thing worked out.
They got it worked out. And of course, what did the House do? No.
This is from Obama. We'll do our own thing. And did the Republicans do anything? No. No.
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They scream all this stuff about illegal immigration, but yet they reject every
kind of bill that comes on the table that fits it.
Because they're just playing the political game.
It's a winning issue for them. They win election after election after election
over it, and they make money off of them it's a vicious cycle.
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This and it drives me nuts it's such
a vicious cycle and the dems they're cut
like whenever your mayor's in these towns it's like well dang
how do you handle what do you do make them
sink and swim that's what they'll do with us i don't
yeah remember being called you know we had our conversation
yesterday yeah about you know
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where everybody's talking about like you know black homelessness and
all these things are going on but migrants are getting this but all these people
here if you just hear dc i i
just know dc experience and the homeless people that
we said and brother works your job you
deal with i deal with them yeah and i
was like we're not gonna pretend like all these people are homeless because
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of migrants or there aren't like things i'm here to help these people or certain
people but there are a lot of factors it is so not black and white when we talked about this issue.
And there's so much here, like DC itself, there's so much for people to be helped.
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There are a lot of programs and things out there.
But Brother knows he deals with
the real people day to day, and he knows there's a lot of mental illness.
The mental illness in our community is something that is not talked about,
out, but it is so rampant and it's so sad. It's a lot of factors.
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That mental illness.
It just comes from ignorance to health conditions that our Black community faces.
You know, our diet is what leads to a lot of this mental illness.
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Dementia, Alzheimer's, those
diseases, they impact African Americans more than any other community.
And we somehow don't have anybody champion that in our communities.
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We don't. That would be a beautiful platform.
That would be a beautiful platform. And somebody taking that.
Somebody leading that charge and
there's medical there are medical
statistics out there that show that it impacts our community more than any other
community yeah yeah and a lot of that like i said is you know our diet and our
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experiences that we go through so i'm i know You guys were talking about,
I guess, Biden and Harris were trying to reverse some of the wrongs where they
have white folks have really just moved black folks out of those inner city
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parts that they were inhabiting.
D.C. used to be Chocolate City back in the day. Oh, yeah. When I was coming
through D.C., it was a lot blacker than what it is right now. Oh, yeah.
And, and that's, and that's caused some angst and a lot of homelessness and
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a lot of, you know, mental illness in our area.
And you know, Malcolm X back in,
and it's so funny, Malcolm X said this way back when that about Republicans
and Democrat speaking in those terms is antiquated.
That was back when he was coming up. It's so true, though.
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It really is.
It's liberal or conservative. I think that's why the Black perspective is so unique.
Because what we've been through and our experience and the eyes that we can
see everything going is just different.
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We're in the last couple of minutes. This has been a really fun conversation.
There's so much more I want to talk about.
I'm just like i just want to
make one last thing while we're wrapping up here too like one thing
that's pissed me off too about the democrats too is i
understand like the biden thing and oh yeah we are here now and he absolutely
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has to get out of the race now it's just way too much noise all this yeah yeah
why did this start now and i'm like dims You had a chance to, we had candidates.
You had a, I mean, you had a chance to contest his presidency the second time
around, you know. Exactly. Why didn't he go on a challenge?
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Why didn't, why didn't nobody? Why didn't anybody step up to the plate?
Thank you. I mean, he didn't just all of a sudden get old. Y'all thought this.
Kicking myself in the butt i'm like i'm broke
but i could go up there and run a better campaign right but now this time that
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they're picking to do this it's just so god it is driving me crazy well thankfully
trump opened the door back again last night with that that horrible speech it was
terrible so it was like two
hours long yes yes it was it was
ridiculous but what if they don't hire if they don't put harris there like biden
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messed up he had opportunity he should have just handed the baton to harris
like he could have made this grand gesture like it would have played over so
well, like he was a hero to many,
but just hand it over to her.
The only thing about Harris, she has to jump to her on this.
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Yeah, she does. He's a woman. Racist and man sexism.
And I just don't think America would respect a woman.
America's not gonna like a woman. Would respect a woman candidate.
Of it so and the people
don't want that's the thing too but who's it gonna be that would
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i see that's the problem they don't put themselves in this in
this predicament now and then
they don't realize there are rules and nobody really knows
the rules or understands them and they're about to really get themselves in
trouble because they they about to mess up and and do something and who's who
are the courts the mega courts and republicans hands to them and he's going
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to go to the Supreme Court and we know how that's going to go.
And once they get back in office again, watch what them courts look like after
that. Oh, if he wins, it's over.
If Trump wins, our generation is done. We're lost.
We got to hope better for the future ones coming up.
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Because we're done. That's true. That's true.
Brothers, we got to continue. It's so much more to get into and stuff.
I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation as always.
Yes, brother. I feel better. I'm getting this off my chest now.
I know. I don't want to feel too down going out, but I feel kind of a little dark and gloomy.
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I'm going to tell you, I'm not very optimistic. I'm just going to tell you that right now.
We're going to lose. I'm not very optimistic. President.
I know for a fact if Biden stays in the race, it's over.
All right. Well, on that note, that's the couch, y'all. And our thoughts.
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All right, Tater Tots. See you, brothers.
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