S1 Ep3: Navigating Emotions As Black Men and Men of Color: Building a Stronger Mindset

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Music.

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Let's get to it. Playing Circle Podcast, man. Another one like the other one,
man. What's going on, man?
On this episode of the Playing Circle Podcast, we'll be discussing a few topics,
a few subjects that's going on right now in the world.
But all of these subjects and topics are going to tie in to managing emotions,
mindset, mental health challenges, social anxiety, anger, depression,

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anxiety, losing their own people in emotional situations, and how to develop a healthier mindset.
They say, we're going to kick this off, as always, with an opening for PT the
Great. Man, what's going on, brother? How you doing, man? Hey, man.
What's going on, man? Welcome to the Player Circle Podcast.
When we don't try to fit a square into a circle, you come here to be deprogrammed
and reprogrammed so you can get with deprogramming. Let's get going, man.

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Yeah, man. That's a good thing. Hey, let's get to this shit,
man. How's everybody doing, man? Mental health check. We've been missing a couple
of weeks. How's everybody doing?
Hey, man. We here. I'm going to start by saying, I'm going to tell you,
look, first episode, episode, sixth episode, where's the transition, Mike?
Watch the transition. Watch the transition. It's going to be a good one.
So I want everybody to know that my man is mental health also is part of it

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is your wellness and your being of your physical.
My man is getting his physical together. So, watch my guy.
And mental, too. And the physical is helping the mental. It's all coming full
circle. So, just watch the information.
So, if you want to give a hand clap, congratulations.
We know how you're doing. We're here with you on this show.

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Congratulations. That's a great start to this mental, physical,
emotional challenge that we're getting ready to face.
So, wanted to get that out. All right, man. What's been going on?
We at episode three now. You know, we've been looking at the numbers and everything.
What everybody think on it? Everybody watch the episodes. Let's everybody take
them. This man will start with.
I'm going to start with you, RJ. What's up, man? You watching the shows?

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What's your take on it? What's your input on it? Everything is going to be.
We're going to keep discussing.
I think one of the big things that we are trying to make sure that we do is
provide solutions, right?
So we also know about what the issue is.
We know the issue, but we now are trying to give back some solutions or possible

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changes that we might have done back then if we could have. after,
man, with the knowledge that we have today.
So, episodes have been great. We've been doing great.
I'm enjoying everything, but the big focus here for me, moving forward,
is making sure that we get those solutions out and encouragement out to the
individuals so that somebody can make that different decision.
PT, man, what's your thoughts on what you've been seeing so far from the past?

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I'm in the process, man. The beautiful thing is y'all get to see us go from zero to hero.
You know, it is happening quickly and swiftly, free, man.
You know, this is a beautiful thing, so tune into the process.
And those of you who have wanted to do something, it doesn't have to necessarily
be a podcast. It's anything in your life.
You know, first episode, it was like 4,000 views.

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Second episode, it went to 25K, man, in about three weeks. And a shorter amount
of time than we had in the first episode.
So keep paying attention, man, but know that if we can do this,
you can do it yourself. So get involved. Wow.
Bo, shut up. Give up to me, Bo, man. Look, you just went through do something,
man, do some life-changing things, man, and took a break from this for a minute,

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and we all took this break with you, man, and we had to make sure our brother was here.
Talk to us, man, if you're going to do what's going on, man.
Appreciate you being here with us. I'll be back, man.
I had to go get my life straight. I went to a little procedure,
gastric sleeve, and just trying to live an overall healthier life.
My mind is in a whole different space now. I really don't like,

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I just learned to let every day go, man.
I can't be all known and stuff. I repaired some relationships with my sister
and brother. We can't talk about this.
I just was sitting there, and I was just like, man, you know what?
I said, I'm the little brother. I said, I got to try. I got to try. Yes, sir. There you go.

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Yes, sir. If I don't do it, then they ain't going to make waves.
It ain't going to happen.
I just took charge. I just reached out to them. I'm like, hey,
let's go have a seat down in the east over there, too, or whatever. Do whatever.
How was that? Man, it was great.
We kicked up. Now they don't have you. You hear that? Like, it was cool, man.
And I just brought everything to the table. Like, if y'all got any problems

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with me, just let me know.
You know what I'm saying? I let my sister know that I'm not the same person
as she was when I was a kid.
Oh, come to think of it, we had it. Yeah, you know, I'm something different now.
And she saw it, and I could see that she was just like, oh, well,
man, you working? You doing this? You doing that?
She was like, what's your credit score? I showed her my credit score.

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My little brother really growing up. I'm like, yeah. I said,
I ain't got time for games. I'm out here trying to lean.
And I'm just trying to change the narrative for how y'all see.
You know what I'm saying? And I'm working on my auntie next.
You know, my auntie been tripping. Speak to that, man. It's not too late.
Speak to that. This change you're talking about, man.
We spoke on it before. Like I said, you was convicted of murder at 12.
Well, I mean, here you are now, 37 years old, talking about change, punk five, 45.

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I didn't know. I just thought you said that. That means you look good.
Hey, I mean, look, 37, but now I look 47 years old, and you're right there, look.
So it's never too late to change, is what you're telling that young brother, like, that's it.
You can change whenever you feel like you need to change.
But it's not going to take...
Anybody else to try to convince you to change you gotta

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want to do it yourself because that's all that i was
stubborn i'm stubborn for the most part of my
life especially dealing with siblings and things
you know out the streets whatever whatnot but man i just was like man i'm about
to take charge of my life i made a decision to get a cash and sleep that was
probably the best decision i made a long time and on top of that i was just

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like what what made me wait so long that should It is.
To get my mind right. Now, man, I'm in a better space. Working.
Working. I'm in a better place to do it. Man, you're sick, man.
Thank you. Thank you. Sick, man. What's going on, man? This is the,
this is the, and this is the put everything together, man.
What you think? Because you're sitting back there and you're looking at one
of your babies on the entire door there. What's your thoughts on this situation, man?

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It's really a beautiful thing. I think, you know, they said it's time to do something.
So, what they said yesterday, five years ago, ten years ago,
and I think I got tired to doing that thing.
Bo actually is the one that he had the sentence that got me to move because
I do a lot of shit for a lot of people. Not even just like a personal favor shit.
My role in a lot of work I've done has been being like the cop over.

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Right? You need something done, call me. We'll make it happen.
It's your vision. It's your job. It's your company. It's your shit.
And Bo said, you're always helping everybody make their shit happen.
When you want to make your shit happen, that's the one sentence.
And I called every, I called RJ, I called Partee, I called Scoop,
I called you, I called about 600 people, I got about five, I called about 15

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people, and I got six things moving.
You know what I mean? That ain't good, man. So this is a beautiful thing, man.
And it's like, I think, and you know what's really dope about it is like, we're doing this right.
And I feel like if, even if nothing comes out of this,
like in terms of like business nats and all that shit and like uh even if we

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don't get like blow up it's like a podcast like even just when i get out of
just sitting here and chilling with y'all and just talking and stuff like that
that's even to me that's even just worry that's winning it's the fellowship.
That's what better than was talking about who's rich you
rich and i try to tell my sons to value the things right now
that truly make you rich this is what make us

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rich there's a lot of rich people and don't got people that say i'm going to
talk to about their issue and i'll say how many times we've seen
each other since the last one you know a bunch of
time i just ain't even here they don't
have to endure all the time i'll be walking in he'd be in here with mr you know
what it's funny i'm not gonna stay in here i'm just talking he talked about

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that therapy the fans doing is who said i think i've seen anything hold on that
bad post in this little a video about thug therapy, and you don't want nothing for sure.
But it's one of these things, it's like, I realize, I've dealt with a lot of
people that's bridge burners.
And I realized I'm a bridge builder. Because it's not even just me saying I
could do shit with different people.

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I've actually, one of the things that I noticed about myself is that I build
relationships where when I connect people that I fuck with, they automatically
just fuck with each other. These are my big brothers, man.
Like, it's not like... Big brothers, I went to meet them.
How long have we been doing this? Two months. Two months. Two months.
So you see what I'm saying? So it's like, to me, there's like,

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you know, I'm not a religious person.
But I believe in the divine or the universe. So I think some of it is just like,
and I use a lot of quotes from religious texts.
Let's say, God will throw a pebble before he throws a stone.
And I try to pay attention to the pebbles because the stones hurt like a motherfucker.
I've had my share of stones.
And I think that sometimes it's positive, sometimes it's negative.

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Sometimes it's like, hey, you need to get out of this situation.
You need to get out of this job. You need to get out of this relationship.
Sometimes it's like, Like, hey, you need to shape this, make this happen.
To me, this is one of those examples. And for people watching,
if you see Players Circle podcast, this is like the surface level of the shit we do.
We got a lot of shit that we had plans for.

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It's a lot of other shit that's already moving.
And, you know, for us, it's not just about disseminating information and advice.
We're already out there on the ground in the street.
All of us in this booth are on the ground already. ready and we just get organized
and we're tired of waiting on other people to come and do the shit that needs to be done.

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And this is one of the first steps in us basically taking the lead,
taking charge and saying it.
It's our time, man. I waited. I walked there, but I had that time.
And that's how I met you. Somebody else's vision.
That's how we connected. But I just feel like it's our time.
I feel like this is true for everybody.
Whatever you want to do, you already have what you need to make it happen.

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The only thing that's really stopping you is yourself.
And when you said that to me, what clicked in my head was like,
the only reason why I haven't done any of this shit is me.
So as soon as I stopped getting them all away, this shit happened right away. And I love the energy.
Like, if some people didn't want to do 6,000, didn't want to get everything
perfect for that year rolling in, but the demonstration in that here is,

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we can't, we said we don't record.
We didn't have everything we said we was going to have, but we recorded.
And it's where, like you said, 4,000 views, 25,000 views.
And whatever the views are, we just know that if we do shit the way that we
do shit, it's going to grow, it's going to be organic, and it's going to keep going.
So to me, it's an inspiration, it's a testament to what I believed coming into

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it, and it's validation for where we're going,
and all the wonderful things we want to do for ourselves, and for all the community
and people around us, because, you know, can't keep waiting for somebody else
to come save us, we got to take no more.
The therapy is definitely on us,
I don't want to keep asking what the government don't do, what anybody else
plan to do, it was so nuts these your bad ass nephews I'm sorry these your sons

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and stuff I was like they don't nobody else it's so nuts to be the big homie
so OG I gotta ask you too gotta get to it,
social media ain't your thing you say that social media ain't your thing but
you're part of this thing that's growing and it's,
doing great right now the numbers are doing great your clips are going crazy
the people love you I knew from the moment I met you the people was gonna love

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you cause you're so passionate to me,
And just the game you had from that very first time I met you,
what is it like for you to be a part of this? Oh, man, I really appreciate you guys.
Really. Yeah, I really appreciate you.
It's bridging the gap. We're going to bridge the gap. We're going to cross some
bridges. We're going to tear down some. We're going to cross some.

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We're going to make this serious. I can't wait, man. There's so much.
You know what I'm saying? And one reason why I even got in this,
I couldn't reach the kids out there.
There's children out there that I already know. No, they told me to do it.
So I'm like two or three years behind.
I work in a... I'm accused. I work in a psych ward, man.
I work in a place where kids hurt on themselves and do a whole bunch of things, a bunch of teenagers.

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And maybe about three or four years ago, they were telling me, get a podcast.
Get a podcast. We'll talk to you. We'll deal with you. Get a podcast.
And I'm not knowing. I'm not knowing. They just keep saying that to me.
And keep having, because it's not me asking them. It's just every time I do groups.
I do groups for kids. And what they do is they say, you know,
hey, we need what you're saying.

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Keep talking to us. We need you out there. Because in here, I can only talk
to them in here, in the place I'm in.
I can't deal with them out there because there's a HIPAA violation.
I can't really talk to them. So, man, I've got parents.
I've got people, kids, just lots, thousands of kids, to be honest with you, want to connect.
And they say get on social media. But I ain't knowing because I'm not here.

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And we're going to bridge that. I'm going to do guys because you're going to
take me where I need to go.
And I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. I honestly can say,
yo, I feel it. Like, I know I need a guy.
I know we talking about this. We was like, who's going to be the guy?
And I appreciate when you was like, yo, you want to be a guy?
But I really feel like the guy is going to be the guy. I feel like it's going to be Uncas.

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I feel the energy, just the wisdom you got to offer. I think the big part of
it is our perspective on the other generation, too.
Yeah, but I get that gap is what he's saying.
He's been through everything we've been through, and we're getting ready to
go where he's at, but it's the keeping it real part that I think we've been missing.
And that's why you do it in court, and that's why you do it.

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It's the part where everybody afraid to tell you the truth.
It's like the pastor up on the pulpit who say he's perfect, and we all know it ain't true,
but he up there telling everybody, so we just be quiet for over years right
just tell us the truth so Tell me that's You gotta keep it real man Definitely
real I've been throwing You see what he told me When I said It was you He said
Sir No I was like I didn't know that sir I didn't know that Threw me off So it's.

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A good way the same way into it up really does this kid think right now yeah
you like actually you know what it's right he gave me a job when I was height
it was first year of college or something, I would come back and deal with his kids,
group home, West Oakland, North Oakland.
He was in North, North, North, North, yeah, group home with kids,
I'm going out and I was sports coordinator. We play his games all day.

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Right, so he's really been involved with, he, that was, yeah,
30 years. I mean, that's what he is, man.
That's exactly what I mean. Then I got, I got my kids here, because it's my family here.
See, man, there's a lot we really need to talk about because we're
missing a lot we're missing a lot to help each other
be men i i need you and you need me and if

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we don't bond this together we don't come together and do this
it ain't gonna work especially in the black community see we gotta
understand that it's not about chasing money but it's about chasing lives it
ain't my chasing no money we gotta get this straight because we've been chasing
the bad and you gotta realize that you've really been chasing that back and
you really ain't been a whole person you understand that see we gotta put that

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down because it got us and we got to understand if we don't come see.
They're waiting for, they're laughing. I feel they're laughing and stuff,
but our power isn't who we are, but we don't know that yet.
The power of us is who we are. How does one find that power in self?
You got to go within. You've been so used to dealing with the outside of you,
you don't know what's in it. You don't even know you. They don't teach you how to be you.

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They teach you how to be somebody else when you need to be yourself.
When you find, let me tell you something. When you find you,
you're going to walk in so much power you ain't going to believe that you got that much power.
You lose respect you got right now. Now you don't know, but you don't know because
you ain't really got into it.
So today's topic that's going in towards the intuitive is about emotions anyway,

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because a lot of times we talk about that youth.
We come up, and we don't know how to deal with any.
We're talking about what? We're out there with anger, depression,
anxiety. You're depressed. How to handle social anxiety.
All of it. Depression. It's a lot. Losing it on people in emotional situations.
And I think that right there, all of those things tie into losing it on people

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in emotional situations.
Because if I'm angry, if I'm depressed and all of that, and I go outside and
you do something to anger me, I might not be so angry at you.
I might just lash out, lose it on you in an emotional situation. And now I'm doing 25.
But who are you going to talk to as a man, right? It's not really anybody to
talk to. So I remember when I was going through shit really bad,

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I talked to my cousin at one point and we were talking and he said,
this is why he said, as a man, the only safe space you have as a man is your car.
That's the only safe space you have. That's the only place you can go to do
whatever you need to do to let shit out because everywhere else you're going to get judged.
You got to go. He told me, he said, go park his car somewhere where ain't nobody at.
He let everything out because a lot of times, like, for example,

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you'll be in a relationship and what do they want in the relationship?
Open up to me. Talk to me. But if all your experiences are, every time you open
up to your partner at some point in that relationship, either during or after,
that shit gets used against you.
And you were already raised, like we talked about last time,
we're already raised to not be vulnerable.

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We're raised to be afraid of vulnerability as men. So we already don't feel safe being vulnerable.
That's what happens. We got pimped all that shit up. You hold it all in.
And then you go outside and you blow up.
You explode. Well, because as a human being, we are not designed to be able
to hold all that shit inside of us.
And there's only one way to let it out. And it blows up. And that is that is a cross culture.

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That's why you see men doing all this crazy ass shit. So let's talk a little
quick about the little solution.
Right. So one of the things that's important for being people,
period, but definitely men to understand.
Let's look at business. Let's look at politics. Let's look at the president. Right.
For any type of leaders, the most leaders that are wise, they have a wise counsel around them, right?

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They're surrounded with wise people. So they get the ability,
even though you see the president, you just see him. He's the face.
But it's not just him alone making decisions.
There are people behind him in a room, right, that are bouncing ideas off of
each other. They're talking about these things.
They're going in depth. And so that's one of the things, that's the safe space

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for men that we have to create for ourselves because you are correct.
A lot of times, you know, they may want us to talk and express ourselves and
we cannot because it is going to be used against you in some shape, form or fashion.
Right. And so it either seems as if you're complaining or whatever the case
is, you know, we might not be afraid of it.
The man, but they put us in there as a child. They don't cry.

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We start as children not being able to express ourselves. So in understanding
that, right, we have to get a wise counsel, right?
You have to be able to have people around you that you can talk to and express
when you're going through it with low amount and nobody understands.
You know what I'm saying? Or when your finances ain't the best,
you got to figure out some solutions.

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You need somebody that has some understanding about finance that you can bounce the idea off of.
What should I do besides picking up a gun and rob somebody or picking up a sack?
People are quick to tell you about a scam they got going on.
She's telling you about how to get into some trouble. But you get into trouble
and none of the people are there.
I'm going to get this out. They've turned us against each other.

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That's why it's beautiful how we can be men in here, respect each other,
and go at it. We have to do this in big numbers, not small numbers.
Big numbers just have to happen. You said something. You say you have to suck it in and not cry.
What do you think that's doing to your emotions? When you suck something,
if we sit here and all of us just grab ourselves and just start shaking it and don't cry.

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What's going to happen to you? You're teaching yourself how to build up anger
so then you end up exploding.
Because we're supposed to talk our words. We're supposed to talk our words.
And another thing I didn't like what they told us we had, we couldn't cry.
Man, you better cry. Why do you think the eye ducts in your eyes,
your tears drop? For a reason.
See, these are reason things that has to happen to a man. Because they lied

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and told you no. No, and they've been balling us up for centuries.
And that's why we got to break this. We got to break this up.
That's what you're saying. We start talking about deprogram,
reprogram. That's right.
So when we start talking about emotional intelligence, right, which this is about,
then we have to start to dive into this, right? And so when we're dealing with
emotional intelligence,
we're talking about an individual, right, that has the ability to control and

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garner their emotions and the emotions of other people, right?
And I don't just mean control in the fact where you're trying to restrict someone, right?
But guide, because let's say you walk into a room and someone is hysterical,
they're having a breakdown, and you have to know how to deal with that situation,
right? That's emotional intelligence.

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But now you might be dealing with your own stuff.
But if you are an unemotional, I mean, you are an unintelligent emotional individual,
then you're only going to make it about yourself. You have the inability to have empathy, right?
So even while you're going through it, emotional intelligence,
a big portion of that is empathy.
You have to be empathy. So compassion is an essence from this society.

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It is. Because we only worry about self. We have a bunch of narcissists running
around about, we don't care about what's going on or what you got going on. It's just, hey, what me?
And so if I care about you, what that means is I'm not being sympathetic where
I'm excusing whatever it is you're doing or going through.
But what I'm saying is I'm placing myself in your shoes and saying,
well, if I was feeling like that, how would I want someone to help me?

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And that's when we speak on this or what we're doing. And you just said we need to do more of this.
We got to give a big shout out to a big bro, Mr. Fab. He got the therapy.
I believe it's every week, every Wednesday, every other Wednesday.
Is that he got the therapy going on at open california go
out to that and it's just a fellowship of men that
come together and we do get to speak it's a free space where

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we get to talk we get to express ourselves and we get to politic and like you
said bounce ideas off each other better the community and ourselves and that's
that's what's needed too it's just a way to catch one of them you're blind and
just killing clouds and people at the same time you know I see it. It's desensitized.
A lot of times now, like you see something go on, people will pull their phone

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out. Somebody gets shot right now.
Before somebody pull their phone out and call 911, they ain't going to pull
their phone out. They go there to get programming.
That uncle was talking about that programming. Man, they program us to be wild
and just run a month and do everything. You know what I mean?
We talking about programs. It's like programs.

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It's just like it ain't no sense. Like when I was coming up with respect to
the older, now the young kids, they don't care about the older people.
So they just doing what they want to do.
It ain't no sense. Because you can't even say nothing to them.
You say something to these kids, the parents want to get mad and say something
to you. I ain't even mad. I wasn't even mad. You couldn't say shit. I'll tell you.

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I'll tell you this. Look, I went to Black Grad the other day at Tech,
right? Shout out to all the grads.
Shout out to all the 24 grads.
I was standing on the bottom stair of the bleachers, and there was a walkway right next to me.
Well these three little youngsters came up and I'm just like he's standing in

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the walkway but he don't want to move but he keep bumping it to me and I'm looking
at him and they all looking at me like we'll mix you up and I find it this,
this touch to what both say too right I'm gonna say this though too right we'll
be surprised what you respect the youngsters to give you if you just say something

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it's how you say it though right But if you say something to these youngsters,
I was just talking to a group of youngsters,
you know, they just had their prom, beautiful thing. Shout out to Dr.
Rene, I'll see you, baby.
Yeah, but the thing is, when I'm talking to the youngsters and I'm talking to
them about investing in cryptocurrency and all of that, and they're really paying attention, right?

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But sometimes you have to say something to the youngsters.
Because we think automatically, you know, they put this toughness on and we
like, okay, I done already been there. I don't want to have to get into it with
you because I don't want to have to crush you, little daddy. It makes me crush you.
But in our reality, right, sometimes we just got to say something.
I can almost guarantee you that nine times out of ten, man, them dudes will

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move out your way. Hey, what's going on, youngster? Man, skill, man.
You see I'm trying to come to work. You're looking good, baby.
You see you can have the girl talk.
Also, just the respect level, though. I see the OG.
I'm just, when he said respecting our elders, though, I'm just going to,
some of the stuff we just don't see no more.
I'm going to move if I see an older. person. If I got a seat,
my granny told me, I don't care if you're a man or not, and you're just an elder,

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very sudden you want to see those teeth, that is missing.
And that's our generation, though. It's a new generation.
Something happened, though. There's something that happened before our generation,
because I felt like when we were coming up, it was less like,
oh, we disrespect your elders. It was like,
being respected, irrespective. I also think the elders were different back in the day.

(26:29):
You could check because I feel like some of my interactions with elders,
it wasn't awesome like just looking out for you or you being out of pocket.
I feel like it'd be on some weird shit.
Like you said, the approach. Yeah, but the approach would be I feel like oftentimes
the approach was fucked up and it starts in school when a lot of these white
administrators in these schools come at you foul and it is, I don't know.

(26:51):
I always felt like all the teachers was lying, bro.
My parents didn't believe teachers lied, right? My parents didn't tell lies, brother.
That's why before this story, I told a story about something that happened to me at school.
And the thing that probably impacted my entire life was the fact that no matter
how much I fucked up, even when I fucked up, my mom always had my back when she showed up.

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And that made a big difference because that changed the way I moved in the world.
And it allowed me to be somebody I feel that's why it's not a space where I
don't feel comfortable advocating for other people, no matter what the situation
is, because she validated that you could speak up when something's wrong,
even when adults are wrong.
And that's a big, important piece.

(27:36):
But it does, at a certain point, bust up against respecting your elders,
because some are respecting elders was you just don't talk back no matter what.
So I think it is complicated, but I definitely can attest to that. I don't know.
It's something around our generation. Right before it, she went left.
The worst generation. That's what we're talking about. There was a time when

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older people didn't talk to young people, period.
That's what you're talking about. There was a generation because they told me,
I'm going to talk to you. It don't matter.
I'm going to say something to you. You got to say something.
You got to know how to talk to people. because they're waiting for you to say
something to them, really.
That tough outside thing, that's all a joke to a certain degree.

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You understand what I'm saying? They want you to acknowledge them.
Hey, young fella, what's going on with you? How you doing?
It's how you talk to people because I'm still doing it now. Old as I am,
what I'm working at, when I come in, what the hell is going on? How you doing?
It takes on a whole other form other than me. Hey, what you doing?
No, you're not demanding anything.
I'm just connecting with you. and when you come with that kind of attitude then

(28:42):
you'll talk to me. It goes back to communication.
If there's no communication we're lost. We have nothing. And we've not been
taught how to use our words and talk.
We've been taught how to suck everything in. Suck your emotions in.
Suck your feelings in. And then what you end up doing is exploding.
And that's what you see. I feel like that's the biggest solution.
To accommodate communication.
So how do you correct that? So we're in our 30s and we're in our 30s,

(29:08):
40s This is a little bit old. And we've got this community.
We found it. We've searched for it prior to this, right?
Some understanding for ourselves or whatever we want to say. So that our...
Emotional intelligence piece grows. I was a 15-year-old from the Lego doobie.
I don't know. I don't speak. I don't hear anything. Okay.

(29:29):
This one. Oh, because when I met, I met him, he was a youth at the center I
worked with. And you were in Hawaii.
But the other important piece is that I went to school. The other important
piece is he had fun with everybody.
Right. He had to feel you. In order to talk to you, he had to feel you.
And then you have to be genuine. If you're not genuine, then you have to understand

(29:51):
you're not going to get nothing. So what's your answer, Will?
So I would honestly say to the
young folks is, did nobody know what I was dealing with? I was popular.
Everybody was cool with me. Did nobody know the things I was truly going through
because I didn't speak about it.
I tell him, hey, man, I really do have people trying to kill me.

(30:14):
I really am. I was sort of like, that's something you go to school.
Y'all think about that. I got to get good grades, but there's people that really
want me dead. There's people that really want to do something to me.
Speak up, say something, find somebody to speak to. Like you said,
we sitting here thinking we can't cry. We can't voice our, hey, I'm scared.
Emotionally, I'm 15, 14 years old, walking around my city thinking somebody gonna kill me.

(30:38):
I should be able to say that. I should be able to say, yo, I'm scared.
Hey, yo, I'm going through something.
But we walking around putting on this facade, like we tough guys,
that tough youngsters, that tough guy shit did, it's 2024.
I just want to let you know, that tough guy shit is dead. it.
You said something, you said, how do we do this?
How do we do this? Something simple that we don't do. We don't listen. You ain't listening.

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I can approach you. I can say something to you, but I can get something out
of you. I'm going to start listening to you. And guess what you're going to
do? You're going to start talking to me.
And when you start talking, then I'm going to start listening and hearing what I can help you do.
But if I don't listen and I just give you directions, then you ain't going to feel me.
Okay. So that means it comes from both sides because you played a big role in my life.
You came in at a point where I wasn't trying to hear from no man.

(31:26):
I wasn't trying to hear from nobody.
I was growing, right? How do we connect? Right? We connected because you listened.
I'm thinking. You see what the difference is? We connected because you listened
and nobody else would listen to me back then.
And you actually, what's going on? That simple.

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What's going on? Well, let me tell you, And when I told you,
you were like, oh, okay, this, this, this, this, this, this.
And it just, it wasn't, nothing was being thrown at me that way at that point.
You see what I mean? Everything was a dictatorship then. Are we listening?
Are you hearing that? So that's the approach we have to have to the 15-year-olds
and to the young ones. When we approach them, we have to be able to want to what?
I got to want to hear you. I can't just, I don't want to just give you advice

(32:09):
without first listening to you. Let me hear what you're saying.
He came in and caught me at a crazy time in life.
But it also, it takes patience. Here's the other thing I do want to say,
though. He didn't say nothing different than my daddy told, said.
Right? I'm going to make sure y'all hear. He didn't say nothing different,
but he said it in a way that so I could.

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He didn't say nothing different, but he said it in a way that treated me like
not that we were on the same level, but there was a respect factor there on both sides.
It wasn't just get out my face. It was all right. What's going on?
Once again, we don't know what respect is.

(32:53):
We don't really know what it is. We think we do, but we really don't know what it is.
Explain respect to them. Respect is a communication thing.
It's a verbal thing, but I'm walking in respecting you. I don't care what you've
done, where you've been. It had nothing to do with nothing.
It has something to do with me and you, a friend, to communicate,
so I respect you right off. I'm not judging you. Let's talk.
Let's talk about what's going on inside. Let's talk about what's real.

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When we get to that, then we can start communicating, make things work.
But if I don't listen to you and I come with my own agenda, Linda,
then you ain't going to really hear me.
So that's one thing that was going on with us. I came in to hear you,
but I've been practicing.
Practice, patience, and perseverance. I got to practice to be better.
If you don't practice how to listen, you ain't going to get better at listening.

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If you don't practice to get better, you ain't going to get better.
If you don't persevere, which means I got to keep going no matter what,
no matter what you tell me, I'm not going to stop trying to help you.
I'm going to persevere through this. I'm going to keep helping from you regardless
because I want you to get what I'm saying.
And if I don't do that, then it ain't going to happen. It ain't going to work.
I mean, some of it, I think the patience piece is key. There's some young people

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that I connected with who you know,
It took me, it took years. There's some people that squared up with,
there's some motherfuckers that squared up with me at the center.
Three years later, they calling me, hey, sick, hey, because I never,
even though they tried to square with me, I never treated them like, man, fuck you.
I was always like, look, man, you tripping, but when you need some,
I always, doors always open.

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And we didn't even know there was a reason for that squaring up.
Exactly, and so for me, it was like, one is drawing a line, you got to draw
a line to say, because I think because the other thing we have to acknowledge
is that we're meeting people where they're at
right so you got a whole life I met you how old was you when I met you,
he was 15 33 you weren't 15 I ain't that old hold on.

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Hold on I met you hold on let's take that back he was 18 because I was 22 when I met you,
so look hold on so look but regarding Angel
just like you said he met you at a pivotal point in his life
he met me at a pivotal point was it no no
it's 15 what year you start working at the center
oh wait okay okay yeah okay 17 okay

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but the point is the point is like i'm meeting him at 17 right and so but what
happens is i think we raise what you talked about is we're raised in a society
that's capitalistic and it's it's driven by patriarchy and white supremacy and
in the core piece of patriarchy white supremacy
capitalism is dominance so ogs come

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into spaces they come talk to you you 17 i'd be
20 i'm a staff it don't matter how old i am i need
to dominate you need to do what i say when i say how i say when i say and when
you come in with that attitude then it becomes a conflict because none of that
idea of that idea domination is so so in the moment it done deal with nothing
he been through and some of those bigger conflicts i've had with younger people.

(35:50):
I know it's because they have to test you because the more you say,
I'm fuck with you, I'm down with you, I'm here for you.
The more they got to test you because people have told them that and violated
them over and over and over and over again.
And so a lot of it is it's about patience, but it's also about not not leaning into these these norms.

(36:12):
The norm is like, especially for men, it's like I see men at the center come
and they try and smash on somebody.
And all that do is create fire you're pouring
gas on a fire because you're trying to dominate somebody who's
fighting against that because everybody has gotten them like
that has violated them and we don't know what
type of i meet him at 17 as could be
17 years of trauma i might not be ready to

(36:34):
deal with when i run up on him so i need him to
know that whatever happened to you don't matter right
now i'm here for you however you need me to be here for you you're
gonna square with me i'm not gonna back down because i need
you to know that i'm you got to respect me but i'm not finna
but i'm not gonna be somebody i'm not gonna violate you i need
to let you know that whenever you're ready i'm here

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and every time i see you even the kids at square every
time i see them i treated them with love and respect because i needed them to
know that that door was always open we and i want the ogs to know it works i
just said i met him at 17 i'm about to be 34 in october here we are 17 years
later i'm a residential manager job that you i've been doing that a year now.

(37:17):
Residential manager, I managed two properties, 84 tenants.
I ain't never did that in my life. No managerial experience,
none of that. All off your word, you feel me?
It's been three times this man has been my guardian angel, real life.
Saved me in life at a pivotal moment in my life where things could have went left or right.

(37:37):
I've been able to call him and it went right because he made it happen for me.
So that's proof that if you come down, like everything he just sped to y'all,
y'all kick that to the youngsters be that for the youngsters be
there i told y'all in the last episodes it wasn't
no men there it wasn't i just ran into jason at
the kamaya show i just told him like me and me and sick working i

(37:58):
remember jay helped me get my first place you
feel me my first apartment call him was a reference for me for me to get my
first place you know when you're trying to get a place i ain't got no felonies
i've been working since i'm 14 years old they still don't want to give you no
place they tell you ain't got no rental history how the hell i'm gonna get real
history if all y'all telling me i ain't got no rental history man jay was my jay was my man

(38:22):
he helped me get my motherfucking first spot but listen i was i i was man listen
i'm getting kicked out my spot in oakland i i am literally about to i have nowhere
to go at all my family won't co-sign for me, nothing like none of that.
I call a mentor at the center and he, I got you.

(38:46):
You feel me, it's good. I put my name on the line and do it for you.
So yeah, man, come down to the level and who knows, 17 years later,
you may be doing a podcast with one of your pupils, man, you know?
One of the things, let's touch on this real quick cause it goes in line to it
with what you saying, right? First and foremost, the dominant society.
In order to control the people, has had to deal with all of us with force.

(39:10):
And so what happens is we pick up these traits and we try to emulate the dominant society.
The only reason we listen to the police is because we know that,
one, they'll either bring some type of harm to us.
And even if we can defeat that one, we know that he's going to have some backup.
And if we defeat him, they got to put the police department.
If we defeat them, we know that they have a national guard. If we defeat them,

(39:31):
we know they have an army.
Me so we recognize in that quick brief second that i'm
not just dealing with this one person i'm dealing with a mass
of energy and force that has the ability
to destroy me so then i calm down and i
be cool right and so those of us who get in some type
of position of power we come in as if we have
that same force behind us because we're a counselor or

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because of whatever the case may be right and so we
bring that energy to the youth and they are already rebelling
against this naturally so they don't want to hear
that if you appear like you the authority and
you're not coming in a manner in which they can accept of course they don't
want to hear that so we talk about risk we talk about respect what is respect
respect is the highest form of love that's what respect is respect is the highest

(40:17):
form of love so now when we understand this right when we understand this we're
talking Talking about a doctor,
when you go to the doctor,
you don't walk in the doctor's office and then the doctor say,
hey, Bo, what's going on?
So listen, man, we're going to commit this brain surgery on you because we,
you know, we think that that's what's happening with you. Hold on.
Bo hasn't told us that. Hey, listen, I'm just a little bit overweight.

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I want to get this gastric bypass so you could take some of this out so I could
lose a little bit. It's because I want to live healthier.
I'm like, no, man, I'm going to cut your skull open and remove a piece of your
brain. So, you know what I mean? You don't do that when you go see a doctor.
The first thing the doctor does is, as our big brother just said, they listen.
They got a checklist. Tell me what's wrong with you. So, when you go in and

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you're talking to the youth, the same thing that sick did to school.
Hey, what's up with you, man? What's going on? Talk to me. Let me hear your
ills. Let me hear your problems because then I can start to diagnose you.
I can start to give you some medicine, right?
I can start to give you some tools of life that you can deal with.
It but if i just come in and tell you what's wrong with you then i
don't think we gonna get too far in that process listening don't always come with

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talking because i can honestly say i don't think i ever told y'all
what i was ever going through but they was just there i
don't know if y'all seen anything like if y'all saw something but
y'all was just there but part of it
is just like you said whatever it was actually me
and jay the first time i met him it was me and jason and part of it is just

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understanding what you just said we already know what's happening I mean Scooter
He's in a car The OPD's got y'all pulled over Got all five of y'all Lined up
in handcuffs So for us it's Like my mom I don't care what happened He's not wrong.
None of them should go to jail because I know how y'all get down. So fuck y'all.

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So now me and Jason is plotting like, what do we need to do to keep them from going downtown?
And so that's what me and Jason did was everything we could do to keep that
police officer from taking these five brothers to jail.
And that's what we did. I got my license because of these dudes.
They gave me the little free test to do.
I sat in Jason's office taking a free test on the computer all day.

(42:26):
And then they paid the money for me to go get my L's.
That's why I was in the police car that day because I took my driver's license.
That day, I passed my test in my homeboy's car. I had the test in my pocket.
This was his mother's car. He told us it was his car. She reported it stolen.
He didn't go home that night.
So she reported, we went to the club the night before. He didn't go home.

(42:46):
She reported her car stolen.
None of the homies. Yeah, but part of what's important is, now you think about
it like this, This is, for me, it's like when I show up to that situation, right?
For me, it's like I understand the systemic structure.
I don't care what happened.
He's not going to jail today. Once I decided that, we're not leaving this scene.

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And if they do take it, we're going to.
That's the decision that was made. And that's the love, though.
Because you're putting yourself at risk. I was in a stolen car.
And you feel that. As a driver, I was by law, I should have went to jail.
Because no matter what, I didn't know that his mother reported the car stolen.
He telling us it's his car. I didn't know it was anybody else's car.
But the car was a stolen car, technically.

(43:32):
So by law, me driving it, I should have been going to jail.
Had it not been for them, I was going to jail. They was telling everybody,
hey, they're releasing all my other friends because none of them was driving.
I was about to go to jail. Not the person who, not the kid who mom car was. He wasn't going to jail.
As the driver, I was about to go to jail if they hadn't. But that's my mom.
Show up. I don't care what happened. He didn't fuck up. This is a misunderstanding.

(43:58):
It's a mistake or y'all wrong. Those are three options.
Those are three options. And to
me, that's a way to build trust is to let him. He didn't know me at all.
He never met me before. He knew Jason. They walked down there in them white jackets.
We didn't even have white jackets. They wasn't even white jackets,
huh? No, we didn't have the white jackets, but you knew that was us.
And, too, that's a good point because sometimes you don't need to,

(44:20):
like, you don't have to always talk to all of the youngsters.
You just show them some action. Show them a little love. Just,
you know, let them know that you got their back without even talking.
You don't even have to talk sometimes.
And that shows them, like, damn, big bro really do care. You know what I'm saying?
Yeah. So listen, when you see those actions. Yeah, for real.

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It make you want to just be better overall when you know you got somebody that's
going to be there for you through whatever.
It don't matter what it is, bro. Just like your signature said.
When we went to work for y'all, I wanted to be a dude. Yeah,
we were all here when we did the landscaping shit. We were doing that.
That's what I'm saying. And, like, through his actions, his actions made you

(45:05):
want to be better. You know what I'm saying?
That's right. Chairman Mouse says words are beautiful, but actions are supreme.
For sure. And that's really what that's an action. Because I feel like he came
and was like, you don't even know me.
And I wouldn't leave in that corner without him.
But, see, there's a sense that we have for each other.
And Bull was saying something. See, at my job when I'm working,

(45:27):
sometimes the kids just want to know that you're watching them.
Ain't got to say a word. You just know I'm there. You just feel my presence
knowing, man, if you need something, I'm right here. I'm saying that without saying that to you.
And see, we got to have that kind of effect. And let me say this to you.
We got that kind of power, but we don't use it.
We got that kind of power. If we just show up in the room, man, I change.

(45:48):
I change rooms when I walk in there with the kids. I changed the rooms without saying anything.
When they look, I'll come in knowing respect is in me, knowing I know who I
am because they ask me questions.
Hey, hey, how did you, how do you know who you are?
See, I'm walking in that. God has showed me who I am and I got to put that there
because I wouldn't have got there.

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God, God. Man, I've had some things that have happened, you know,
supernatural, but I ain't throwing it all out there. But once again, see...
I can reach you without talking to you. I can walk in the room and the atmosphere will change.
You got to know who you are. And when you do that, they can see that you care
about them, not by talking, but just by watching, just by looking at them.

(46:32):
Because what do kids do? They want what?
Validation. Are you looking at me? Are you paying attention to me?
Are you letting me run wild and do anything I want to do and let me go crazy?
But when you show somebody that I'm there, because I can look in your eyes and
you see, you know, right now, me and you just having this look, am I there?
And too, OG, to add to that, it ain't just kids that we do that to.

(46:54):
It's grown people, too. I'll give you an example, right?
Now, I was at work. This was probably like about two months ago maybe, right?
And it was this bum outside. He was doing whatever, causing a ruckus out there.
And I just went out there to holler at him. He was talking to his imaginary
girlfriend or whatever, whatnot, right? Right.

(47:16):
I was waiting until he was done. And I was just like, hey, oh,
gee, they tripping, man. You know what I'm saying?
He was like, all right, when I'm done checking this broad, I'm going to buy my business.
I'm like, all right, we'll just do it a little quietly. Right. And he spent off.
Now, I didn't know that that they was watching me.

(47:37):
I had no idea that they was watching me, but they was paying attention and it
made them offer me another job. You know what I'm saying?
And it was just, she was just like, I like how you get down,
but you helped that situation.
Like, you know what I'm saying? Like somebody would, you know what I'm saying?
And I was just like, I ain't even, I'm just doing me.
I ain't even tripping. You know what I'm saying? But that goes to show that,

(47:58):
you know, you can help older people too.
It don't even got to be kids all the time, you know?
No, yeah, I know. I'm just saying. The power of that is when we find ourselves,
watch and see what happens. Watch the magnet that you have on you that you don't see.
There's a magnet on you when you start to know who you are. Something's going
to come up out of you, and you're going to see that, and you're going to start walking in it.

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Not just that. When you do that as well, and also mention his name,
you will be showered with blessings.
You got to give thanks to God because I'm feeling that moment.
I be feeling like I'm glowing.
I'm walking around, and that's why I'm doing what I'm doing now.
Hey, that's where I'm at right now. That's why we started to make this happen, huh?
That's where I'm at right now. Where you feel like you're glowing.

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I feel like the last dragon.
I feel like when he reached that mode, I'd be walking around feeling like that.
And that's why I do speak his name so highly.
I give such an honor to God for bringing us all together because this is him.
This is truly him. He made this happen.
Vallejo, Oakland in the building, northeast, and it's crazy.

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This is what players is about. This is what being a player is about.
It's not about having a bunch of women.
It's not about, that's not what this, I see somebody said in the comments,
and y'all, people in the comments, I'm petty. I'm not there.
I'm fully not there. be safe be careful
be careful in the comment section i

(49:28):
ain't all the way there i got a few screws missing i loosened them
myself but being a player ain't about
that man with this peace stuff when i say i'm pushing p love
peace and prosperity i love what you said right
off the rip i respect you because i lead with love
and respect when i walk into a room when i when i walk
into a room i love you black man i know you're going through something just

(49:51):
like me so i love you for that i don't i know you might be missing some love
somebody might not be telling you hey man i love somebody probably didn't tell
you today i love you hey i love you bro real talk just so you can get some love
when i walk down the street i see people i speak to everybody so guess what.
So guess what stranger i don't know you but i love you you feel me that's the

(50:11):
power of things right Right. Because we have the choice.
We have the choice how we're going to present ourselves to the world.
So if I have the choice, that means I have power.
So I can choose to walk in the room and I can choose to disrespect you and I
have to deal with the consequences of that disrespect.
But I can choose to breathe life into you and and appreciate the consequences,

(50:32):
which way bring about rewards also.
Right. So if I come and I give you that respect, then it can bud as a flower
starts to bud. You said breathe life into you. I can breathe life into you.
That's what we're supposed to do. You know what it is. You walk down the street,
you see somebody, y'all both about to cross paths, and they might have a mug
on their face or something. Hey, how you doing today?
Smile. And guess what? Sometimes they not going to even say nothing back to

(50:55):
you. But it's okay because you did your part.
Your job is just a messenger. And this is one thing for us teachers that I have
to say because I was thinking about this earlier and I want y'all to get this, right? Okay.
If you are a lifeguard and you're trying to save lives, when you jump into that
water and try to save that individual's life, who is drowning,
their arms flailing, they going crazy, they going under, they can't breathe,

(51:17):
life is hard, they feel like they about to die, right?
When you as a lifeguard, you attempt to save them, what'll happen is they may
be so in their mode that they are scared. They try to pull you down with them.
So now that's the same equivalent as you walking down the street and you say,
hey, brother, how you doing, man?
Hope your life is great. hope life is good for you right and he
may not speak to you in that moment that's him arms

(51:39):
flailing drowning in the in the in the misery
of life right and he has the ability but is
you gonna let him pull you down no you have to be the superior lifeguard
that know how to deal with that situation to still save the life you
gotta let him drown a little bit but no a
little bit but you did your
part like you said man i'm telling you that person felt it that person and it

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helped them they they felt better today because you did that so i said on the
last one man be kind be courteous make sure you lead with love and respect i
love that you said that and love that you said that and it will change who you
are once you find yourself.
It's different finding yourself and my advice
on that because we want to give solutions i love that you said

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that my advice on finding yourself man is get right with god like honestly i
don't i don't know what your religion is and your religion may not be you know
what I'm saying I don't care who you call I don't really don't care if you call
him Buddha I don't care if you call him the universe get right with your higher
power I just call him sick if it,
i call on pop look just just know

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that there's a higher being man and if you if
you do right and you do kind and you do good in this world
man that that higher being is here for you and it's
gonna it's gonna be there with you through your ups and downs and those down
moments where you feel like hey where is this higher being you can't find it
the reason you get through that moment is because it's carrying you you looking

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for it and you can't find it and you like where is where is god some people
like to say that some people like well man i went through this stuff and God
wasn't there for me, you did what?
You went through it. You didn't die. You got through it.
Who do you think got you through that, man? Who was there?
Because if you got through it, you got through it. You didn't fail because you

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went through that stuff. You didn't quit.
You didn't give up. You got through it. So, man, trust in the higher power,
whatever that is, for you and give grace to it.
Ever since I've been doing that, I've been showered with blessings.
Things not just for i'm not talking financial because
some people think right now i'm talking about when
when he closing doors for me and i'm like damn what is this

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he opening them and and and finding out
that because i was always thinking like man these doors closing him is something
wrong happening am i doing something wrong is he not here for me now sometimes
he closing doors he had to close them because i kept trying to go through them
too this stuff need to be closed until he closes and then it's a door down and
there's a door down there i had to walk through and change my life.

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So, man, y'all get right with whatever the higher being is, man,
and you'll get you closer to yourself.
And when you do that, your mind will get right, and you'll start to get better,
man, on a better track. You still going to go through stuff.
You still going to go through stuff. But I want to touch on some of these things.
We almost to the end. We almost to the end. That's why we're going to look.
Because, look, there was one set of footprints in the sand, and there was two

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sets of footprints in the sand. Granny, talk to me.
Granny. And it was one set of footprints in the sand.
Then I realized how high I was.
I was gonna hit on that like just to piggyback off what you were saying too
is like i drive i drive uber and lyft right yeah and the backseat of my tesla

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is a therapy session so i'm gonna tap on that next because what i was gonna
say we'll talk about this together is
experiences is one thing that helped me in perspectives with my emotions.
And when you see how other people think and feel, you'd be like,
why the hell do I feel this? Why do I feel this? And they feel like that.

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And you're sitting there and you're talking to all them people.
Being a financial advisor, bro, has made me, but money is not my guy.
Yeah, for real, man. But I understood. But, you know, we grew up that Beamer, Benzer, Bentley kid.
You don't know no different. And then I sit here and I talk to people and I'll
be like, yo, my happiest clients got the least amount of money.
They live. They know what they can do. They plan everything out.

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They map it out. More money, more.
Not to say it's different, but you start to just understand perspective.
So that's why I say you sit there and you talk to people.
And it's like, yo, these experiences have helped me control and manage my emotions because now I can.
It's not where somebody says something. we a kid and it's
like burn your hand if you touch that burn it nah
you said you did what oh you're never gonna do that oh you're

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doing what oh well let me try that that's how did that work out for
you that worked out good this work oh well it's so you start to think like
why am i even thinking why you know who i do that and
i do that to my friends who pass away and my friends who
go to jail hey look and that's how it happened too is like
somebody get in the car and i
can look in the rear view and be like they

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going through something and i just you know
sometimes that's all it take it's like hey bro what's
good man you all right and they'll
tell me like man i'm you know whatever they going through man my wife telling
me she want a divorce it's my birthday and we out at dinner and she just like
i want a divorce and i'm just like look man ask you something what make you

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just when you see it like you see it because you could just ignore me I mean,
drive them and do what make you.
I don't know, I have this innate ability to read people.
And no, but I'm saying, but what make you even engaged?
That's me, I'm a people person, bruh. And I care about people.
It sound like God to me, but it's just. I mean.
It's not like God, because it's like fucking niggas.

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It's not like God to me, but it's just, you feel me?
Yeah, ability, because I'm just saying.
Elusive What if he's been With you the whole time Elusive But instead though
right First of all You got this This ability To just see somebody Need help

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bro You see they need help You don't turn your back On them And you just
Some kind You try to be there bro And you can just Really drive And get your little coins But,
That's the guy bro And I'm gonna be here As long as we on this show And you
know We talked about bro But I'm gonna be a reminder That hey he real And he working,
You feel me I said it's based on tips. It's based on tips.

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Hey, you see? But no, for real.
But it's the, because that's all a conscience is to me is God.
That's all a conscience is to me.
God put it all in all of us. And something in you is telling you,
man, it's a calling to you. Because you could just keep it rolling.
Something is calling in you to tell you, man, get to them people.
People did even if it's just for five minutes seven

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minutes 17 minutes this this ride because how
you got that ability because some people could just drive and just and
just rock out turn the music up hey
so listen right time story time so listen right let's throw this story in there
and this is about god right and this you know he put your jams on and it's just
about god right so we want to get this because bo just said something i definitely

(58:39):
have another drink listen bo just said something bo said man yeah because when
i'm looking for god i just Call on sick,
That's what Bo just said So now let's bring that Back around right Cause everything
is real You ain't gonna find that In me Hey listen Listen This the crazy.

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In you though truth is who come on man so now
with this being the case this is a story right you had you had the
so-called you had the elohim right which they call some
people call angels or whatever the case may be guys say listen man
you need to hide me from man right you need to hide me from man because otherwise
man will find me easily so the elohim they say well look we're gonna put god
in the sky you know and then the other one said well no man we can't put god

(59:25):
in the sky because if we put god in the sky man eventually man gonna get intelligent
enough and And he going to build an apparatus,
a ship or something that's going to go up in the sky and they're going to be able to find God.
So the Elohim said, oh, we can't put him in the sky. So where are we going to put God?
Well, let's put him in the ocean, man, because we know God ain't going to be
able to find God down there. The ocean is super deep. They ain't went that deep yet.

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They said, no, man, because man is super sharp. And eventually he going to build
an apparatus. He going to build a ship. He going to build a submarine.
Something is going to be able to be found down there and they going to find God in the ocean.
So they said, man, well, where are we going to put God? That man will never find him.
Said you know what i figured it out
we're gonna put god in man right
because man never look or think to look inside

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of himself so i'm in agreeance with
bo when he said that if i'm looking for god i'm gonna look to sit because i
recognize right all you gotta do if you're looking for god is go look in the
mirror i just said all you have to do is go look in the mirror and it's deeper
than the physical thing right it's deeper than the physical thing so it's important
for you to understand, right?

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You are in control of your life.
Take your power. Take your power. Our age, some people get it through religion.
Some people get it through history.
What attracted me was the history. My ancient forefathers, the first thing that
they told us is know thyself.
And when man has thoroughly searched himself, you know what he's supposed to search himself again.

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Because one thing about life, you are the most important thing in the universe.
Everything in the universe is a reflection of you.
Everything. Like I said before in another episode. Right. The sun is 93 million miles away.
It's rays hits the earth eight minutes and
20 seconds it takes to rotate straight like that
the blood circulates through your body right eight minutes

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and 20 seconds if you don't have no blood circulating
through your body you're gonna what you're gonna die you're gonna die last time
wait wait wait last time no we can't we can't we can't we can't we can't let
it finish last time we let it fly last time we let it fly last time i didn't
know what you know now Hey,

(01:01:37):
Siri, how long it take for your blood to circulate through your body?
They're trying to put you on blast. Man, what?
What she said. 60 seconds. Trying to run.
No, no, no. No, no, no. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.
And what we call that is man relying on technology. You're like.
And what we call that is man relying on technology.

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Siri said 60 seconds. If I'm drinking a cognac, it might be 13.
I don't know. Yeah, dude. 8.32.
Listen. Yeah. I love how my brother, P.T..
He always has a way to bring a story you have and make it on.
You're going to understand this.

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Get it this way. He's going to bring it down to you and get it to where.
You want to listen. I love it. I love it. You're a true storyteller,
and I appreciate you being on this platform and a part of this platform.
It's dope. I love sitting here. I'll be watching. I'll be like.
He was this sharp in high school. This is not like some post.
He was. could post like he got out he got sharp

(01:02:40):
he read some books he was this sharp you put your energy a lot of us don't realize
it i'm telling you he was this sharp in high school this is not some new shit
he was this sharp in high school i remember knowing him in high school and being
like that's i remember he got he got an award entrepreneur future entrepreneur to the school.
I'm sorry didn't even i'm sorry didn't even show up at school he's one of them

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So as we as we talk about this emotional intelligence, how to deal with certain
things, everything we covered today, solutions, solutions. Right.
So I'm going to give my solution and let's just go around and everybody just
give give you a solution on or a word.
How we ended a word of advice or whatever it is.

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Mine is going to be perspectives like I talked about. Right. I want growing up.
We are a product of our environment. We don't get out of our environment.
And we seem to make the division of leaving our environment a real thing.
Right. Like it's negative everywhere else. We're good here.
Stay here until you get out. And I would like just to the young'uns,

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get out, see the world, talk to people, talk to random people,
talk to as many people as you can.
Because the more people that you talk to, the sooner a lot of these dots will connect.
Nothing will ever connect and we'll always be figuring things out.
But the more you talk to, a lot of these dots will connect. You'll be more emotionally intelligent.
You'll learn more. It'll just make more sense. So that's one thing that I didn't

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get out. We don't get out a lot. You know, we don't see it. I ain't feel about no new friends.
People say that. That's the thing. Drake says that. No new friend.
Drake said, we're not quoting Drake today. We all know no new friend.
Long squad. Here you go. Keep going.
Oakland's going to be your last show, Drake. Anybody who brings good intentions

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my way, look, no new friends.
I just met you, bro. That's what I said.
Yeah. I just met. So, yeah, it's one of those things. I'm always open for love.
You enter the room with love.
I'm always here, but I say that to the young folk, it's hard,
it's something I didn't learn and I was shut down on it.
But perspectives, being open to young, old, black, white, just different perspectives,

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just see it, understand it, grow, grow from it, grow from it. Good game, good game.
Real quick, touching on perspectives, you know, life is 10 percent about what
happens to you and 90 percent about how you perceive what happens to you.
If you change your perspective about a situation, you ultimately can change

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the outcome of it. Right.
And so we talk real quick about this. No new friends thing. That's foolish.
Right. That's foolish. We get stuck in this hood project mentality.
Think about this. The majority of people that live in the projects,
they never even venture to the other side of the city. Right.
Which is foolish. But I have talked to people who have been all over the world.

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I've been out the country myself.
Right. And I've been to Japan, you know, was in Tokyo, was in Shizuoka.
I was in these places and I see that the way that they treated me as a black
man is different than a lot of times the way that I get treated in America but
that I haven't been to every place in America so you go to other places in America
right the treatment is even different could be.
Variations could be good could be worse whatever the case may be but you have

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to travel if you were to travel around the world right they say that if you
traveled around the world it's impossible for you to be a poor man unless that's
what you wanted to do but if you were into some type of business and finance,
it's almost impossible. Why?
Because there are things that they have in Africa, right? In certain countries
that they don't have in the United States.
It's things you got in California that they don't got in Florida.
It's things you got in Mexico that they don't have in Canada.

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It's things that all over the world, you can bring a product or a service that
someone doesn't have and put yourself in a good situation, right?
Or you could bring some information or perspective as our brother just said.
So I want to talk real quick about emotional intelligence because this is what
the piece is about. Young people, right?
Once again, emotional intelligence is young people, all people,

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right? Right. Get me right.
Emotional intelligence is about being able to guard and control your emotions
and help other people with their emotions, right?
Help them through whatever emotional situations they're going through.
It's the ability to be able to stop and think while you may be angry,

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while you may be frustrated, but not allow that anger and frustration and that
emotion to overtake you to make you make a bad decision.
Right. It's the ability to see clearly in the fog.
This is what we're dealing with when we're dealing with emotional intelligence.
So you get angry, you get upset.
You have to take yourself in a sense outside of yourself and think about why

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are you angry? What is going on here?
Is there a lesson I need to learn from this situation?
You have to look for the silver lining in the situation and what you're going through.
That is being emotionally intelligent.
That doesn't mean you're always going to make the right choice because you're
not. We're not perfect beings.
It happens. Sometimes your mistakes, right, bring about the great times in your life.

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Life I went to prison for 11 years of my life just
got out of federal prison and that was a
great experience for me man because it allowed
me the opportunity to sit down find out who I am
gain some information to be life-changing and now
I can come out here I'm not even supposed to be in a room with these type
of individuals so says you know those who

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come from where I come from but I'm really in a room with some
bosses and I learned that
guess what bosses don't take losses we take lessons so everything
that ever happened in my life was only to make me greater thank
you become emotionally intelligent you got
this we got this that's what it is oh no new friends son they said no new friends

(01:08:33):
well hey look i'll be good with the friends i had before that but y'all my new
friends and i fuck with y'all i love y'all like y'all my brother for real.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, but I want to hit on perseverance, man.
Because when life gets to lifin', you still got to put your chin up in the air

(01:08:59):
and get to it because ain't nobody going to get it for you how you going to get it for yourself.
Keep your head up like your nose bleeding. You got to. too.
And, and like just that, that perseverance thing, man, is, is it may be a,
sometimes you might have a delay in achieving your success, but you always got
to keep on keeping on, man.

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And youngsters, OGs, young Gs, whatever Gs, you got to make it happen for yourself, man.
Same that was quick he skipped me though you first didn't mean we talking about hold on,
social anxiety anger depression anxiety all

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of that man look when dealing with that man
the matrix you gotta turn into neo we have
to slow down we gotta slow down
in these moments when things going down
i don't just think for me when i go out into the world
when i get up and i go out into the world i'm gonna thank for
all of those around me you know what you you

(01:10:03):
maybe you want to do something like you feel me in this moment i gotta
slow down and i'm learning like i said i mean
like you just said we gotta learn every day still growing
we're gonna fall nobody is perfect nobody
is perfect so you're gonna still fall but slow down in these moments man anger
it's a lot of people right now sitting in a cell or sitting or they're in a

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casket behind anger So that's one emotion I would love for us to all find a way to deal with.
Anger, trauma, because a lot of times our trauma leads to the anger.
We don't even be angry at the certain situation.
The trauma from past situations got us more angry at you than I should be right now.

(01:10:48):
So dealing with the trauma, learn to let go.
Learning to let go of the things from the past. Know that it's in your past.
If you've been through it, it's exactly that, something you're through.
So let it go. You're through with it. Do not carry it on to all your situations in life.
You got to learn how to let something go. If I'm older, I'm 37 years old right

(01:11:11):
now, I can't be carrying on some trauma that happened to me when I was younger
thinking I'm about to get to somewhere.
If I got a goal I'm trying to get to, why am I putting all this stuff on my
back trying to carry it, to get to the goal I'm trying to get to is slowing
you down to get to your goal.
So letting go, let go of past trauma.
And I'm going to end it with leading with love and respect. When you walk into

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anywhere, lead with love and respect.
I don't care where you go. I don't care who the people are.
I don't care if you've never been there before. I don't care if it's a hood,
if it's a ghetto, or if you're in a room with a thousand corporate people who
have more money than you, man. Lead with love and respect and you'll be all right.
It's back on you now. I'm not going to OG yet.

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I got a message for these bitches out here. I'm just playing.
All right look no no no hold on sick can't drink no more this shit like he was complaining,

(01:12:15):
alcohol for them two off not drink y'all gonna watch us shit on here for no
we ain't getting no fee from them they ain't promoting that shit shit with apple
juice apple juice I'm gonna see what look,
made me lose my train of thought look,

(01:12:39):
pick up where you left off you said I got something for these bitches I should look,
look ready about to do like Kendrick do an Eckhart Tolle quote no I think What was the question?
What was the question? No, it's just a solution to dealing with solution solution

(01:13:05):
dealing with social anxiety anxiety anger, depression,
Emotion. Oh, man, shit. Dude. No. Yeah. Oh, what?
Yeah. It's fine. It's what happens when regular people get a bunch of mics. Yeah.
It's a long-ass question. I'll tell you that first. Let's go.
It's a long-ass question. I'll tell you that much. Now, look.

(01:13:28):
I mean, this is what I'll say.
One thing, seriously, is I get a lot of phone calls from people who don't have
nobody to talk to or feel like they don't have nobody to talk to.
And one thing that's really important, I think, in order for us to really disrupt
these paradigms, especially around capitalism, white supremacy,
patriarchy, is one is to as men, we have to release our desire or with the feeling

(01:13:54):
we have within us to dominate.
You gotta let that go because that is when
i talk to a lot of young men it's this this uh
when they when they get when we get to the core of the issue is
a lot of times it's like their inability
to let go their need to dominate up
hit their friendship their relationship they
want to dominate i told the motherfucker wound i

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told her this that so you gotta let that go stop trying to
dominate everybody because this idea of
dominating people is unnatural dominating other
people is unnatural is european that's right that's
one two is you could say european you
say white european caucus caucasian but it is it comes it comes from it it really

(01:14:39):
is and like you said because everything that we this this society we live in
is based off of uh all everything that's structured is based off of an acquisition
by force you see that that's all them goddamn.
Netflix telling them they're telling on them they put all them shows
about the motherfuckers just remember netflix is part of the shit so that's

(01:14:59):
just that's one netflix is part of it but it's this idea we don't need to dominate
everything once you release this desire to dominate shit your life gets way
easier you don't need to control everything and everybody around
you stop trying to dominate everything you don't
need to do that that's why you see shit like Diddy Diddy's
trying to dominate shit in a society that's not

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designed for black men to run shit
control shit own shit so whatever's happened to Diddy I mean the easy way to
say it I mean no we could talk about Diddy I mean the whole shit is fucked up
but the whole shit the whole shit the whole shit is fucked up but if you really
dig into it I'm not making excuses for Diddy I don't support any of that.

(01:15:42):
I've never liked Diddy. I've never fucked with him. He's done.
Based in this this need to dominate this need
to control this need to to run shit and that's
it's just unnatural it's an unnatural thing go ahead real quick because i know
i know i'm finna go right one of the things too right we we as men especially

(01:16:05):
with a with a with a show like this and a podcast like this it's important for
us and other powerful men right we have to create a space.
Right for young men to be able to
transition into manhood that's very very
important because i just thought about my my son he
just got out of a situation right he's

(01:16:25):
17 17 he just got out of out of
a out of a situation very very beautiful
i want to thank bo too because uh bo lord daddy
just came home bo just threw me some stuff to make sure that
he all right even know my son so this is the type of love that
is created when you had this type of circle so i appreciate that
that was huge bo and he gonna appreciate it i think it's important because i

(01:16:46):
look at him and i look at him and his and his and his young friends and i see
myself and i'm like damn you know we all doing the things that we used to do
at that age right do all of the wild type of things right and i look at it and
i see damn why is the individual acting out like this but what's really
going on is we are.
They're young warriors, right?

(01:17:08):
But they need somewhere to put this energy that's positive because warriors
haven't changed over the century, right?
So the warriorhood and the masculinity that's in these young dudes is there,
but in this type of system,
that attitude and that energy that they have is going to destroy them because
they have a bigger element that is against them and it's not enough for them

(01:17:29):
to do what it is that they want to do.
And so we have to create some type of funnels some
type of channels where they can go through they have to
be willing to listen and learn first and foremost we understand that but
we have to create something right so that they can place
that energy into a positive channel because otherwise right man these individuals

(01:17:49):
they're going to destroy themselves and it's happening all over the country
i see it i'm looking at them and i'm and i'm like damn but it's but it but not
even that That is because it's unnatural. The shit we're going through is unnatural.
So part of what we're dealing with, we want to reach young men,
is we have to reach them and help them navigate an unnatural process because
the system designed around us is unnatural.

(01:18:10):
It's created to dominate us. The whole situation you talked about with the police
is a perfect example because we don't just see an officer and say that's one officer.
No. We see an entire system that will come down upon us and crush our entire
being, our entire city. I mean, we have examples in the past where people push
back against a police department.

(01:18:31):
They crush entire cities.
So, to me, he's 17 and he knows that.
So, when he sees me and Jason roll up and say, you're not taking him to jail,
he understands that we're not just talking to one cop.
We're risking this could go anywhere.

(01:18:53):
I'm from a city where they kill for officers.
I remember when LaVell Mixon killed some officers, how the police started acting in the city.
They didn't care how young we was when they seen us then. And so seeing that
was definitely, I ain't never seen nobody stand up to the police,
especially no men in person.
So that's what we're dealing with. And so a lot of our anger,

(01:19:15):
our depression, anxiety is rooted in this system that's designed to dehumanize men.
So when we talk about, even when we talk about feminism, a lot of times the
way men talk about feminism, they attack feminism.
But feminism is not the problem. them feminism is
a reaction to the situation men

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have been put in but the only way to deal with the
issues feminism are talking about feminism is talking
about is to talk about the pain
in the in the in the anguish that
women go through but to also pair it with
the pain and anguish we go through and every
one of us in here has either got a call from me or got a call from somebody

(01:19:57):
else in this group saying i don't know who else to talk to right now i get calls
regularly i have it scheduled i got shit to do today but i know i'm gonna get
a call today if i don't get a call today i'm gonna get a call tomorrow with
one of my brothers who don't know who to talk to
i'm gonna have to talk him off a ledge the solution is that we need to let go

(01:20:20):
and we can't maybe we can't go to our part maybe we can't go to our partner
you need to find somebody or like Partee said, you need to find your counsel.
Who can you go to when you're in that point?
Because if you don't let it out, if you don't express it somewhere,
you're going to explode on yourself, the people around you, or some random person,
and it's not going to be good.

(01:20:41):
The last thing I'm going to say is, free Palestine, and not just shout out to
the graduates, but I want to give a shout out to all the graduates and all the
university and high school students that are coming out to protest against Israel
and in support of Palestine.
It's really young people out there putting their lives and their livelihood on the line.
Like they're out there getting their, they're at risk of getting their diplomas

(01:21:02):
revoked because they're going out to support community that is having a genocide
committed against them.
And it's not even like, maybe it's a genocide.
Maybe it's not like they there's videos of Israeli soldiers saying we're killing
women where anybody babies.

(01:21:23):
Human being in palestine because they're palestinian they're teaching in their schools,
if you're arab we hope you either die or
become our slave they're teaching in those schools
that if you were a secular we feel bad for
you for not i mean it's really something like it's just fucking
ironic for these people that have gone through the holocaust but

(01:21:45):
these are not just jewish people these are zionists and so
i just want to give a shout out to everybody who's risking their
employment especially in hollywood and in
music in the music industry and in the film industry people
are really putting their livelihoods on the line and in
schools because i mean people are really going through
shit right now and that's just to stop this

(01:22:06):
rabbit over 30 000 40 000 people have been
murdered over 15 000 children have been
murdered and they're being forced to be starved waters cut
off anyways so i just want to give a special shout
out to the folks out there that's you know putting their lives
and their livelihoods on the line and an extra special
shout out to the people in palestine who are dealing

(01:22:27):
with the occupation for over 75 years we just
passed the the anniversary of the niqab the
niqab means catastrophe in arabic which is.
The catastrophe is when i think uh 400 or 700
000 palestinians were displaced from their
homes for the creation of israel the state
of israel so i just want to close with that i know

(01:22:47):
i opened up kind of joking about you know shit with the
cognac but you know we gotta laugh so we don't cry right so you know but i want
to close with that but i really appreciate y'all and uh for one creating a space
for us to develop this and have a space for us to have brotherhood but also
a space for me to feel comfortable to be able to share that and you know put that out,

(01:23:09):
A solution to dealing with emotions, depression, social anxiety.
And everybody, just solutions to that right now.
We spoke about what the problem is. What's the solution to all of these things?
Some simple things. Grateful.
I'm grateful. I'm also thankful to be in this space.

(01:23:31):
Also notice something. I don't know whether you guys have noticed it or not,
but I'm going to throw it out there.
We're listening to each other.
We're hearing better than the last two times. I believe we're hearing something.
Oh, yeah, you don't get nothing done until you can listen. If you don't listen,
ain't nothing getting done.
So we have to be able to listen and not just listen to what's on the outside of us.
We definitely have to listen on what's on the inside of us. Because if you can't

(01:23:54):
hear what's on the inside, how are you going to deal with what's on the outside?
That's why we're all kind of in turmoil with each other and turmoil anyway.
Because why? You can't hear you. You can't take your own advice and walk it
out because you're not listening. You can't hear anything.
Respect. Love is there. That comes from up above, whether we want to say it ain't there or not.
So listening to me is huge. When I start to listen, I start to learn.

(01:24:16):
When I start to learn, I start to know, not just hearing, but I can hear your heart.
See, I'm not listening just on the outside. I got to hear his heart.
I got to hear your heart. See, that's the thing that is, is to listen to the
heart, not just listen to the noise on the outside.
What's going on on the inside of me? And most people, especially black America

(01:24:37):
and even my brother himself, we're hurting, man. We've been damaged.
Ain't nobody listening to us, really. Do you really want to hear my pain?
Because I know we're just alike.
If I can tell you where I'm hurting, I know we can sit up and drop some tears. Why?
Because I'm hurting like you hurting. I ain't different than you are.
But see, we don't listen.

(01:24:58):
And when you can't listen, man, let me tell you something. This is simple,
but we think it's complicated. If you can't hear, put both your hands over your ears.
I'm deaf in one ear. I know what it's like to not be able to hear.
How are you going to make anything work? That's what the society we're dealing

(01:25:18):
in. Man, we're disrespecting women.
There's all kinds of things going on that we got to help these young people get around and get over.
Because if we don't do that, then who are we and what are we doing here?
I came to help. My whole purpose of walking in any room I walk into is to help you.
I come in and help you. It don't matter. Whatever I can do to help you,
make you feel better, that's my attitude and my behavior.

(01:25:39):
Because I want to make this work. And I kind of know because he came from up
there because he helped me.
And if it wasn't for him, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I was supposed to be dead.
Amen. So I'm in here saying the first step, and it ain't really a complicated one.
If I can't hear you, if I'm not listening, how can I help anybody?
I'm going to let it with that. But young people, please, practice,

(01:26:02):
and you've got to practice. This is not something that's overnight.
You just say, hey, I'm going to pick up and listen. Practice.
Patience, and as Bo said, that was my word, Bo, perseverance.
I got to keep going no matter what. I can't let nothing stop me.
Keep your head up like your nose bleeding.
And I want to point out, like you said, we're listening better than we did the
last two episodes. Shout out to everybody that's on here.

(01:26:24):
And I want to give a special shout out to OG. You know why I feel like we're
listening better than we have the last two episodes?
Because the last two episodes, you've been sitting right here telling us all.
Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. And you need people like that in your
corner, too. So I want to say that.
Have good people around you. You spoke to that. Good counsel. This is good counsel.

(01:26:45):
And the commentary that we have around this after, right? And the commentary
after this. We sit there and talked about it after this. So for another two days.
So it's just more to us. I appreciate that. I appreciate you noticing that.
As he said, man, we did better listening. That's dope. That's an accomplishment.
That's something that's dope. We talked about the views and stuff like that.
Last thing for you young people. one thing my daddy said that i i believe to

(01:27:08):
stay you ain't got to be involved in everything.
You ain't got to be everywhere you can miss the party you can miss the game it's another party,
it's another game you don't have to see we got older and what is the thing now
my house is nice i don't come outside for no reason anymore i hate going but

(01:27:29):
i heard little wayne say that one more i got everything i need at home i love
my girl my house nice i got all the games.
My TV's big. Every time I go, I'm not coming outside for no reason anymore.
And I want to know why I'm out here. You see what I mean?
So a lot of the problem is because we in places we have no business being anywhere. You've outgrown it.
Right? So I say that to the young people. I'm outside. You see me, I'm outside.

(01:27:52):
Hey. I'm with that shit. I'm with all that shit. Come see them because they're outside.
Oh my mama, for real. No, listen. But literally, you don't have to be involved in everything.
You all got to conduct yourself right when you're outside though.
That's all I'm saying is this. When you're outside.
What is that? When we're outside. Because he's outside.
I'll tell you what the meaning is. The meaning is, look.
When you're outside, learn how to conduct yourself. Look, I just see you at the lake, right?

(01:28:17):
I just saw you at the lake. I just saw you at the lake. I parked my car at the little parking space.
I parked the car. I got out of the car. I walked across the street.
As soon as I got to the sidewalk, brother walks up to me. Hey,
is this your girl? Because if not, I'm about to holler at her.
Bro, if you don't keep walking, you're about to get your head bust.
No, so look, sidebar, it's two things.

(01:28:39):
I respect you. I appreciate you for at least asking, right? I appreciate that
because you could have walked up, started talking to her and got your head bust, but you didn't.
So I appreciate you for asking, but at the same time, are you truly showing
respect or are you trying to be funny in front of your friends because you're
walking up to me and saying it?
So I told you and your friend, hey, bro, keep walking because you're about to get your head bust.
Okay, so let me say this. Let me remind y'all what this is. this is

(01:29:01):
the player it's about being a player and about conducting yourself
right so look when he said this to me i said yes this is keep walking but bro
you just about to get your head but i'm just giving you a little bit of game
because what you could have did was because what you could have did was hey
yo i see this young lady with a group of men she possibly,

(01:29:22):
is a girlfriend a sister auntie uh
any of these things so guess what i'm at the lake thousand of
women up here I'll talk to another one I'm not gonna pick this specific one
to talk to okay but by walking up what if I'm off some you know you don't know
what I'm dealing with as a person you don't know who I am bro so to walk up

(01:29:43):
to me bro the screws in my head that's loose I loosened up my mission.
Cuz I've been met some people who with somebody he think he in the game but he He not in the game.
So listen, right? This is the Player Circle Podcast, right?
This is the Player Circle Podcast, right? And just like any game,

(01:30:06):
playerism has rules, right?
And so we have to know and understand. That's the part about being a confident man, right?
You see what I'm saying? One thing about me and mine, right?
Mine could be addressed by a group of wolves. You see? And I ain't going to
worry about nothing because life is about choice.
Right so the only time that i'm going to potentially get

(01:30:29):
into a conflict with another man over my woman
right is if he's being disrespectful so if
you trying to holler at her right now if she done told you repeatedly that she's
cool you know and you need to remove yourself or whatever then it's the time
for me to step in but i'm not going to initially step in on the situation right

(01:30:49):
because this individual is trying to talk to my woman that's that's her Her
job is to tell him. No, forget talking to her.
Right. A nigga walking up to you. So guess what? I'm gonna let him go.
A nigga walking up to you. Yeah, that's my woman.
But you say it's beautiful. So that's respect.
No. That's respect. Is it respect or is you playing with me?
Because at the- See, that's something in your mind, yo.

(01:31:10):
Oh, no, he kept it. That's something in your mind. He kept it pussy.
He kept it pussy. No, no, no, what they said was we can reciprocate this same
energy. We was just talking about perspective earlier. First of all,
spare reciprocate. I don't even know what reciprocate mean.
You better get your head bust. I don't even know what reciprocate mean, nigga.

(01:31:43):
Get reprogrammed so you can get with deprogrammed. And do not fall in that spaceship,
please. And we out of here.
What's a reciprocate? What's a reciprocate?
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