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Welcome to the Reality of Herbal Therapy podcast. So today I'm sitting with
Lynn, who she reminded me last time I didn't introduce her very well.
So better do a better introduction.
Lynn is my wife. We've been married almost 30 years.
She's the oldest of Dr. James's children.
So when people talk about I've worked in the business for 25 years,
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she'd been in the business almost her entire life.
She's grown up with all of this. And so she knows a whole lot more than I do.
And we have eight children, so we've practiced it a lot. Yep.
So we've been practicing for a while.
So in this episode, I kind of wanted to talk about one of our most popular and
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sought-after things on our website,
which every time I notice it and see it, it's just kind of surprising to me, which is Impotigo.
Impetigo and one of the surprising things is
when lynn mentions mentioned something
about it to somebody most people look at her like what what
is that what so you want
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to kind of give us a background on so what is impetigo yeah yeah so impetigo
for my children when we got it it actually started out looking a lot like is
it eczema where people have dry skin where you get kind of red red, splotchy,
dry spots and stuff.
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And the kids would end up with that. And I didn't think on the chin.
It's usually, yeah. Especially on a child that's on the face,
it's near their nose or their mouth.
Because like typically for us, it would show up after they'd had a runny nose or something.
And we don't, we don't get it all the time or anything, but the time we did
end up dealing with it, which that same daughter for some reason kept getting it for a while.
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It starts with the dry, the dry little reddish skin or whatever,
but what it morphs into is just crazy.
It turns into these oozing, like.
Almost honey crusted is how I would describe it. I don't know how else to describe it.
If you were to rub your hand across the oozing that dries and crusts on there,
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the oozing just falls off and then it oozes again and crusts again.
Well, most people don't realize that that is highly contagious and that oozing
spreads it to other places, especially on any weak skin. in.
So when a child or two of ours got it, they love to pick at things.
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So if they got it on their nose and they also had mosquito bites at the same
time, they would scratch their nose and touch the mosquito bites.
So then the mosquito bites would start getting that oozy, crusty, gross stuff.
And it's itchy. So it's like they tend to pick at it. It is itchy and it is.
So by the time we realized what we had, it had spread.
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So they had it down their arms, all over their face. Oh my goodness.
And until we figured out how to kind of back it off, it just took forever.
There was one time that it actually took us six months to get rid of it.
So I did a lot of research and, and learning about what it is, what it's based in.
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We found out that it is also an internal thing. It's systemic.
So it gets in your system and you need to take, for me, we take Fection,
but that's, what is that? An antibiotic people would take.
I don't know what normal people would take for that. We take Fection.
Well, the probiotic, you basically want to nourish and build up your immune system. Yeah.
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You have to nourish and build up the immune system and get the bacteria or the
virus, whatever it is, to stop coming back.
Well, since we first did the article that Jim is talking about that just draws
people to the website somehow, since we've done that article,
I have learned so much because one of my daughters just seemed to be prone to it coming back.
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During the flu season, like in the fall. And sometimes it would take us until spring to get rid of it.
We have found some things that make it, that we catch it early.
If I start seeing any kind of a little bit of red on her skin,
just this, I don't even know how to describe it. Little, just red spots.
They're not even dry and crusty yet or anything.
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Then I start immediately. immediately she takes a bath every day.
I have her do that. Like whether we're in that habit or not all the time, I have her soak in a bath.
And we found that if we put baking soda and vinegar in it, that like pre,
if it's not oozing it, just baking soda and vinegar helps to reset the pH,
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but it also keeps it from ever getting to that oozing state because once it starts oozing,
it's horrible it's like that greek
fire to get rid of it's the more you
put on it the it just it just spreads yeah so so the things that we do is preventative
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do the preventative if i see the red on her face of it coming on i give her
a probiotic so besides giving her infection.
Which is a pre and probiotic kind of, I also give her a really good probiotic.
We can probably add a link under this into the one that I really, really, really like.
I give her a probiotic and the red is gone within one or two days.
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So we never get to the impetigo stage.
But if somebody already has the full blown impetigo and it is oozing the baths
every day, And we actually,
sometimes I would have her bathe a couple times a day just because,
and it wasn't just a get in the bath and get out.
It was a soak and play and absorb and like hydrate the skin,
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whatever the bath made a huge, huge difference. Give them infection, give them probiotic.
And then on the skin, tea honey concentrate, which is, I think there'll be a
link below, but tea honey is something that we drink.
But the concentrate that we make for that is actually absolutely amazing on
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the skin and amazing on impetigo because it's vinegar and honey.
And those two together are just a powerhouse. Honey has been used for centuries
to heal wounds and open things. It's antimicrobial, antibiotic, it heals things.
It like, it is so, so powerful. Even my midwife told me to use it after I had a baby.
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So it's like to, to heal open things.
So it's just honey is absolutely amazing. And then vinegar just has this ability
to change the pH and to bring balance to things.
So we, we put the, the tea honey concentrate on the Uzi, the Uzi parts.
So if your kid can't get in a bath every time, it is important to wipe those
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things down with, use wipes,
use a rag, but anything you use either needs to be thrown away or thrown in
the washer because anything it gets on is now contaminated and contagious.
If you throw your washing rag or whatever into the washer, which also when we
have oozing in Patago, we actually had to do, they had to, when they wore something,
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they had to take it off and we had to wash it.
So if she took two or three baths a day, she wore two or three outfits a day,
anything that touches them.
And then we would be washing her bedding. Her pillowcase would get changed every night.
We had to like, once it is in outbreak mode, you're constantly doing laundry to get rid of that.
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I'm trying to think of what else so we could just go so internally probiotic affection.
They've got digestive issues something to help deal with the digestive issues,
and then somehow we found it was for the daughter that kept getting it,
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digestive was how we were actually able to totally kick it in the end is i i needed to give her a,
probiotic and we just had to keep up with it and sometimes l-lysine would help
because l-lysine helps with any outbreak near the mouth so we do a probiotic
and l-lysine and then the affection l-lysine the amino acid so those are for
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the internal and then for external you said,
wash it often baths or or something with baking soda and vinegar in the water
how much baking soda and vinegar?
That's a really good question. Okay, so if it's just a normal size bathtub, it's probably about...
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I'm thinking half a cup of vinegar and I just do like two handfuls of baking soda.
Probably about quarter to half a cup. Yeah. Yeah.
So, and that, that makes a huge difference and you can put a little bit more in it.
You will, if you end up putting too much in their entire skin will be kind of
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dry and itchy, but you have to put an excessive amount in.
At one point, my daughter was just putting herself in the tub and one day she
gets out and she's like, mom, I am so itchy.
So I asked her to kind of show me how much she had put in.
And she had put in a lot, like probably two cups of baking soda and half a gallon
of vinegar. So don't do that.
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So a little bit goes a long ways, basically. A little bit goes a long ways,
but there is a sweet spot and everybody's tub is a different size.
Some people have smaller tubs, some people have huge tubs.
So it's a little bit different, but that brings me to an interesting thing.
So when we were living in Oregon, our grandson, we thought he was coming down with impetigo.
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He started with some spots on his face, but then he started getting them on
his tummy and on his arms and everything.
And we were in, so we kind of started treating it like impetigo.
Well, one day a friend of mine saw him and she's like, oh my goodness, he has poison oak.
I'm like, what? Poison oak? We don't even have that in the yard.
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How did he get poison oak? So she told me that her family actually keeps Dawn
dish soap in their shower so that if their family's been out working in the
weeds or cleaning up things or anything,
and they think they might've even smelled poison oak, they would shower down with Dawn dish soap.
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Well, that made me think, okay, the impetigo bath we do that is baking soda
and vinegar, her if i add the dawn dish soap to it then maybe because this kid
was how old was he four five.
Yeah he was young enough that keeping him clean and keeping him like we're not
going to be able to hold him down and treat him with everything every day it
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just yeah he was and there's definitely he was going to end up back in wherever
he found that at we searched the entire six acres He loved to tromp through the forest.
Yeah, tromp through the forest. So if we found it, we would be showing him,
like, this is poison oak.
Stay away from it. Don't roll in it. Don't hide in it.
And the thing is, is poison oak gives off an oil, and that's what causes that rash.
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And so the Dawn dish soap breaks up the oil.
Yeah, the Dawn dish soap breaks up the oil. So we started doing that for him,
and he was a bath lover and a half.
So every time he would start itching even
just a little bit because seriously he had it everywhere it was
poor thing oh my goodness and
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oozing and gross but it looked like impetigo so
he we started anytime he wanted a bath we were getting him in the bath i think
he was getting three or four baths a day within three days every sore had dried
up like was no longer oozing that means it's no longer spreading itself everywhere
because as long as it's oozing, it's spreading on every.
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Poison oak, but it seriously was so similar to impetigo.
I would treat it the same. I've both vice versa. So even for my child,
if they had impetigo that was not going away, I would put Dawn dish soap in their bath.
Now me personally, I don't use Dawn dish soap.
I keep it in my home now only for that. I do not use it for my dishes.
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It's got so many added all sorts of things.
I just don't, I don't use it. But for this, it was absolutely worth it because
we had tried everything else.
And every other option is some kind of medication you get from a doctor.
Anyways, I figured your Dawn dish soap can't be any worse.
So we had the kid in the bath three to four times a day and he was loving it
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and it helped everything to just dry up. We kept giving infection.
We would in the beginning when it's in the Uzi state, we could not like rub
him down with lotion or coconut or anything, because if you rub past one into
the next, you're spreading everything.
So we were just letting him get in, get in, get in, and it dried it up on its own.
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If we were going to add stuff to it, which we may have done was the tea honey
concentrate, we would use Q-tips and I'm talking, we went through a lot of Q-tips
because we didn't want to spread from sore to sore to sore to sore or from TNT concentrate.
So you have to touch with something different for everything and then make sure
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you wash your hands after dealing with that child.
But every time he got in the bathtub, we put his clothes in the washer.
We were seriously doing a load or two of his clothes, his bedding every day
so that we didn't want it to spread to anybody else and we didn't want it to
re-spread from his clothes.
So we would wash with normal soap in the washer, but I also put a little bit
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of Dawn dish soap in the washing machine, like in the washing machine. And then,
Then we would, in where you would normally put your downy or your fabric softener,
we would put vinegar in there.
So the whole thing was rinsed with vinegar so that then it could help to also
clear out whatever might be lurking in his clothes that could help to spread it.
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Okay, so we talked about internal probiotic affection, digestive aid if needed.
So external was baths and tea honey on the sores or is there anything else that you would put on it,
tea honey concentrate coconut oil
when it is not oozing yet like as far as so we're talking two things here now
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we have so the open oozing sores you want to use the tea honey concentrate but
if you're yeah if you've got the early signs then this is when you early signs
if there's just some some splotchy red skin,
because you've seen it before, you know, your kids prone to it or whatever,
I would do the bath,
not necessarily the Dawn dish soap that that's only if it's using already.
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And then I rub my kids down with coconut oil.
Or sometimes I make a whipped coconut shea butter cream.
Shea butter is absolutely amazing. Yeah.
Amazing as a topical lotion and
it's also antibacterial antimicrobial it's it's
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been used for centuries like in africa and and stuff like that it is absolutely
amazing and now that we're back in the desert i'm back using she better a lot
more so she better the yellow she better like if you have to choose which one
you're buying if one of our people listening needs to choose Choose which one to buy.
Yellow she butter comes from the desert.
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White she butter comes from more in the mountainous areas of where it's produced,
which means if you live in a mountainous area, choose white she butter.
It will work better for what's going on for you and your climate.
If you live in the desert, use the yellow she butter.
So just a little aside there. But as far as with the impetigo,
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yeah, we have gotten it to where my daughter, if her skin starts feeling dry.
She will put comfort gold salve on it. We start taking a probiotic immediately.
What else? And coconut oil and she better just, she has to keep it moist.
And usually hers is around her
mouth, which when it starts to get a little itchy, she starts licking it.
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Like, so then, you know, licking your lips and it becomes more and more and
more when she does that The saliva somehow helps to spread all of it.
So the first trick is to get her to stop licking.
That's why, like the comfort gold salve, using it like chapstick.
But then for her, she's found she spreads that chapstick like clear out to her
cheeks and whatever because she does not want it again.
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So I don't know if that helps with all the questions.
I think that covers everything that I could think of that we have. Yeah.
But it's absolutely amazing. We'll link the article below that we wrote years
ago, which has wonderful information on it if you want to know a little bit
more of the scientific words about it, Patago.
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But yeah, catch it early if you can.
Awesome. Well, thank you for sharing all of your knowledge and your expertise
with that. I appreciate it.
Let us know if you guys have any questions, and we'd love to answer them.
And we'll talk to you guys next time.
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