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November 19, 2025 58 mins

Episode #7 Show Notes

Host: Warren Lamb

Guest: Dr. Steve Swartz

 

Summary

In this episode of The Soul Care Podcast, Warren is joined by Dr. Steve Swartz who presents his carefully researched biblical case that verbal/emotional abuse (reviling) can constitute abandonment under 1 Corinthians 7, potentially providing biblical grounds for divorce. Drawing from 25+ years of pastoral ministry and rigorous hermeneutical study, Dr. Swartz challenges the church to recognize that protecting the vulnerable takes precedence over preserving marriages at all costs. His work represents a significant development within Reformed theology, maintaining fidelity to Scripture while expanding the understanding of how God's Word addresses domestic oppression. This conversation challenges pastors, counselors, and church leaders to examine whether their theology truly protects the oppressed or inadvertently enables oppressors. Dr. Swartz's work represents courageous scholarship that maintains biblical authority while advocating for those trapped in covenant betrayal.

 

Takeaways

  • Biblical fidelity doesn't require rigidity - Careful hermeneutics can expand our understanding without abandoning core principles
  • The vulnerable matter more than institutions - Jesus came to set captives free, not preserve marriages at any cost
  • Abuse is a gospel issue - Persistent, unrepentant abuse reveals an unregenerate heart
  • Churches need reformation - Many inadvertently protect abusers while further traumatizing victims
  • Courage is required - Confronting influential abusers may cost churches financially, but purifies them spiritually.
  • Churches often commit "secondary abuse" by mishandling initial disclosures
  • Women often fear disclosure because of widespread church failures in handling abuse
  • Successful, influential men who are revilers often receive protection rather than discipline
  • One hour of counseling barely scratches the surface - pastoral humility is essential

 

Relevant Links

Dr. Swartz Resources

 

Other Books Mentioned

 

Other Links

 

Warrenism of the Week: “All abuse is evil; all abuse is destructive; NO abuse is permissible by God.”

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