February 28, 2024 • 56 mins
Today, our subject is about the reasons why creatives need a community to succeed. We've got Paula joining us, the awesome host of 'Talk Shit with P' podcast. Paula recently won an award for her impact on the podcasting community at Podfest and has been around the block at tons of community events, like the Afro and Audio Conference. She's the heart of every community she joins, including one of my favorites, Empowered Podcasting.
We discuss the Clubhouse app, a social-audio platform where Paula and I hang out most mornings and Friday nights. She's all about keeping it real there—none of that fake sh!t. By simply being herself, she's built a plethora of meaningful connections, showing us all the power of authenticity in building communities. Paula calls me out a bit with her community tips, like ditching toxic spaces, doing the self-work, and finding your tribe based on values that really matter.
The discussion leads us to a profound understanding that being a part of a community is not a mere act of belonging. It involves sincere collaboration, a cohesive support system, empathy, and nurturing connections. Paula's explains that harnessing the strength of one's community can serve as a sanctuary and can fuel growth and success for all members of the creative domain.
According to Paula, being part of a community is way more than just fitting in. It's about teaming up, having each other's backs, showing some real empathy, and making those genuine connections. Paula's story really drives home the idea that when you've got a solid crew behind you, it's like having your own personal cheer team where everyone can grow and shine.
Get ready to feel empowered, get those creative juices flowing, and realize just how much a supportive, understanding community can do for your journey :)
Paula’s info: https://flow.page/talkshitwithp
Empowered Podcasting: https://www.clubhouse.com/house/empowered-podcasting
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Hello, hello, everyone. You are listening to The Success Pala,
a place to discuss everything you weren’t taught in school about how to be successful in the arts.
I'm your host, Soda, and today we are going to talk about community,
the importance of community,
and how it affects us as creatives in this capitalistic competition environment.
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So to help me out with this important discussion, I have Paula,
a very good friend of mine.
She has a podcast called Talk Shit with P.
And we talked about this subject recently on an Instagram live because Paula
was about to go to a really cool event called At Frozen Audio.
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Before we get into the subject, do you want to talk about that event and the
importance of events like that?
Hi, everybody. I am Paula, host of 50, and thank you so much, Soda, for having me.
I can talk about community all day long.
So Afros and Algiers is a conference. It's going to be their sixth, I believe.
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Oh, yeah, it's going to be their sixth. I attended last year the first time
on their fifth anniversary.
And it's mostly for Black creators to have a space to share and connect and
educate and learn and inspire.
But what does that mean? It doesn't mean it's only for Black creatives.
Everybody is welcome, but it's catered to Black creatives and people of color
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because we also do need our spaces and our own communities.
So the thing about that experience was different because it was the first time
I'm around so many people.
People of my color because i'm so used to going to port fair
like being around different diversity so
to be around my own people and see
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the amazing shit they're doing and learn from them and
be inspired motivated and vice
versa you find that people actually have been
watching you and you didn't know because i'm their
star struck like oh my god i'm around all
these incredible people but they're like yeah your talk show
will be we know you so but also because
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before I attended I've been part of
their community online I've been showing up for
their events virtually I've been reposting their content so people notice those
things because sometimes we forget that being part of a community means you
give more than you take and that's
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when you get more out of it because if you're just taking to taking,
it's not going to work. That's not you being part of community.
So I think seeing how Black creatives work and being in that space where people
really understand the struggles compared to being in diversity where people are sympathetic,
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but they really don't get to the extreme of your struggles.
Because so and to hear how they overcome it, how they get through it,
how they can support, how they can show up for you was really an incredible thing.
So shout out to Talib for creating such a community. It takes a lot to create
a community that shows up for you.
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So that's a testament for what he has created to have all these people who are willing to help.
Give with no expectation so that's
that's the beautiful thing about it yeah like
you you think about these people who lead these communities
and there's a lot of work involved into it so it's so important that we all
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we're giving back into the pot because we're all benefiting from it and i know
we were talking a little bit last time about how people in certain demographics
like afro and in audios, like you deal,
you meant you touch on it a little bit about how you deal with certain things
that someone like me might not deal with, and the importance of kind of coming together.
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And something that I've noticed is that strong communities often have a central
link that brings people together a challenge.
So as me as being neurodivergent, you know, or maybe my military spouse community,
whatever community I'm in, if there's a struggle that we all kind of connect
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with, it helps us grow stronger.
What are some ways that you have used your challenges to help other people in
your community grow and help them feel seen and the importance of collaboration
rather than thinking of each other as competition?
So, my podcast is about creating safe space for creatives to share their creative
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journeys and their mental health struggles.
But that was after I pivoted two years ago.
Before that, it was a safe space for people to share their mental health struggles,
whatever mental health struggles you have.
So, by me creating that safe space and having people hear these stories or hear
my story, that's why I'm very...
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If anybody has seen my social media, I'm very open with my struggles,
with my depression, with my mental health, when I'm having a fucked up day,
you know, when I'm dealing with grief, you know.
I like to share that because I don't want people who are going through that
to feel like they can't share it, they can't find people to talk about it.
By sharing that people reach out
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to me to talk to me and to to just
vent or to just get words of wisdom and
to be inspired or just to have that one friend
who's willing to listen because i think sadly the
society we live in people are not willing to lend
a ear to listen unless they're being listened so
for some people to to know that there's one
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person out there who's gonna listen to me regardless and it's
funny that i say that because i just came
we just came back from podfest right and before
going to podfest i was running this and
you'll be zoom part zoom meetings we did four
of them and all of them i would tell people when you
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see me just come hug me because i love
hugs and that's how i like like i just will
run up and hug somebody so a
lot of people were running up to hug me and as
we hugged we connected in a.
Different level as I stood on the stage and talked
about my presentation I connected with people on
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a different level until today I receive calls
voice notes messages constantly
like I think I since I've been back I've spoken more
to the people I've met at Podfest this year
the new ones than even my family
because for some reason they
feel that i am a safe space they know i'm a
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safe space so they call me for every other
thing to to one point i made a joke i was like i think i should start
charging for therapy right now because i'm
literally giving you all free therapy but there's something
about you the person
i am knowing that out there there are people who
know that no matter what they can
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call Paula and Paula will be willing to
listen and to vent and without judgment
because some of the things I've had in these few days I'm like
damn bitch but then sorry can I cast in here I'll set this one as explicit so
okay I didn't want that because I know some people don't want casting so I want
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to make sure I obey that so it's but it's a good feeling so for For me,
and I'm leaving my brand,
my brand and my purpose was to create a safe space for people to be able to share.
So even when I share stories that I am scared for the world to hear,
I went on a friend's podcast, Finding OK.
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Finding Hecate, I believe it was, or Finding O.K., I can't remember.
For the first time in my life, I shared my rape story.
Nobody had heard the story. I'd never spoken about it, and I shared it.
I was so scared of this episode coming out for people to hear.
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And, you know, most of the time a victim comes out and some people don't take
it the right way, especially when alcohol was involved or anything.
So you expect some backlashes and all that.
But I will not forget until today I received an email, a message, Instagram message.
This person found me after listening to that episode. episode
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and it was so long but basically
she was saying that she's going through the same
thing I went through and she has the same thoughts I had and she's so happy
she listened to this episode the strength and the courage and how I turned that
around gives her hope that she can eventually she She will be better because
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I am better and I took control.
And that made me cry. And until today, I check on her every now and then.
She texts me every now and then. We have connected our connection.
She knows anytime she's feeling some type of way, she can come to me and talk to me.
So that's why I feel like there's so many ways you can impact somebody in these communities.
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Even just by sharing your story, you might think your story does not have power,
but what comes out of it is helping somebody, supporting somebody.
Or even, let me share an example of Wally. Wally Green is a ping pong player.
He shared his story on TikTok in his community.
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And he got a message from somebody who was like, I was about to end my life
today, and you gave me one more extra day.
To think about it. And that's a powerful thing to be able to,
just by sharing your story, you're encouraging, you're inspiring somebody out there.
And that's why I think I went into the creative, allowing people to share their
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creative journeys because that's.
When people hear that, okay, they might be here right now, but they started from here.
They had these struggles, but they still kept on pushing, can be inspiring to
somebody out there who's sitting thinking they have to have all these dollars to create this dream.
But you can start from anywhere by also having the right communities,
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the right support, and the right mentors.
And even if that means doing internship, if that means showing up at clubhouse
seven in the morning, Monday to Friday, if that means instead of ordering Uber
Eats or buying that expensive Louis Vuitton bag,
getting a ticket to Podfest so that you can mingle with people.
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So I hope that answers the question.
Absolutely. I, oh my gosh, you gave so many good nuggets in there.
And I would love to hear your thoughts about how we can create that safe environment,
that safe community, because I know for you, basically, so for anyone listening,
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Paula and I are both in a community on an app called Clubhouse,
which I do want to talk a little bit about how awesome that app has been for
both of us. But we're in a podcast community.
And I...
Feel like I can say anything to these group of people because it's a safe place.
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And a big part of that is you, Paula, of you putting yourself out there.
And I'm like, wow, Paula is able to be herself.
And that makes me feel like I could be myself.
What are some other ways that we can create that safe place for other people?
And can you talk also a little bit about the Clubhouse app and some of the communities that you are in?
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All right. So let me start with the Clubhouse app.
Believe it or not, back in the day during COVID-2020, I was very, very much active.
We had community connections.
I was a moderator there. We would do so many events weekly.
And my favorite was brunch Sundays where people come in with their brunch meal
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and we talk about what we are eating waiting for our brunch and then have some
questions and ask around.
But as far as of lately, believe it or not, I'm only actively in the Empowered Podcasting Room.
Like after eight o'clock, I'm out. And then Friday again until nine o'clock, I'm there.
So maybe I will start getting back into other communities, but Clubhouse really pisses me off.
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And the only reason I really do make it It is because of the empowered podcasting
room and just the way that communities, you learn, you laugh, you cry, you support,
you share, you teach.
It's an incredible community. So shout out to Mark for creating that.
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Shout out to all the moderators in that room.
I don't want to mention names in case I forget somebody.
But you know yourselves. and they created that space for me to show up.
As myself. And I get praised by being myself. I get seen by being myself.
So I feel like the way you can create a safe space for me is you yourself being
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your authentically self.
If you are not sharing your struggles, how is somebody going to know you are
a safe space for them to come to you?
Because if I'm watching and I've never seen, let's say so that you have a community,
right? and you're preaching about you are creating a safe space and you want
people to come together and share.
But all the time, everything I hear you share or talk about is happy shit because,
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you know, there are those people in social media who just share the good things,
the luxury, the extravagant.
But nothing on the bad side, you know.
So if I'm not seeing that, I can't relate because in my head,
I'm like, but she has a good life.
She she's on this level why
would she understand what i am going through right but then
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if you come if you're that person when
i come into your community and i see you've
shared if you're if you're grieving you talk about it if you have mental health
struggles you talk about it you share the good stuff you share the bad stuff
you share the in between you literally opening up and welcoming me into your
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space where I can see like, oh my God,
I feel like she can understand because she went through this and this.
So I think people need to be able to relate to you.
And that's why I'm always saying how important it is showing up authentically
yourself online just as you show up in person.
Because if anybody has met me, I'm the same person online and offline.
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So you can never say, oh, damn,
I thought she was like this because she's portraying this online.
But then when I met her, she's like this. So show up as your authentic self
and allow yourself to be, well, Mark told us not to use vulnerable anymore.
So is it strong? Allow yourself to be strong, to share not only the good times,
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but your struggles so that people can relate, people can feel safe to be in your presence.
And then people will just start opening up.
And because I love those deep connections, So I'm always trying to make people
uncomfortable so that they can get comfortable with me.
And that has worked with me. Like I literally say some shit and I'm very sarcastic.
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And by your response, it will tell me if I need to be in your presence or not.
So I think that's the best way for you to create a safe space in my thinking.
Because that's how I did it. Yeah, I remember we were talking about using the
term authentically courageous instead of vulnerable because,
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yeah, again, with vulnerability,
it's like you're putting yourself in harm's way.
But being courageous and being authentic is more empowering.
So I really like that Mark brought that up again, something,
you know, learning from each other with community and something else that's
been great for me with with community is making connections.
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Maybe, I mean, just last week, I was on your podcast and you introduced me to
one of your friends who I clicked with a lot and we're constantly connecting each other.
And as creatives, connections are so important because we can't do everything on your own.
What are some ways that making connections with others and also helping others
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make connections has helped you in regards to creativity and fulfilling some
of the projects that you're wanting to work on?
Oh, my God. There's nothing, nothing I love like connecting people.
All my life I've been the middle person.
Even if you ask my dad or my friends back in school, my house used to be the after-party house.
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My house used to be the pre-gaming house because I just like bringing people together.
There's something amazing about seeing that. And I used to be very big on matchmaking.
There are some couples who are matchmakers and they are married right now,
and I can take credit for that.
But because, again, I don't know if it's because I'm a cancer or I am an empathy
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and I feel things too deep, but I am also an observer.
Like I will literally observe things that most people don't.
Even in social media, I read into things.
People's tweets people's pictures people
that's why I noticed when somebody is off and like
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just last December something told
me this still people don't look like their social media
ain't making sense and I reached out to them
and until today they're like I can't believe you actually could
tell that we were not okay and when I reached out
they really weren't okay and I got to talk to them and be
there for them because sometimes people don't want to
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tell but they are hoping that people notice
because I think the idea also of social media is we
are so used to thinking oh because somebody
is posting on social media or they're online or they're
this they must be okay but as us being
creatives we know sometimes we have to be on social media even
if we are not okay we know we have to post it
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even if we're not okay and some people schedule posts
you know some people might be on vacation for two weeks but
they have posts going out every day two posts
a day but they're not there because they schedule that shit so
i dig much more deeper
than normal people and i feel like so when
i started podcasting i wasn't sure how deep this would go i was just taking
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it this is a hobby doing covid and it has helped me get out of my depression
so when the things open up we'll see but then i started attending pod fest and
this was just just virtually.
And I would hear the speaker speak and then I'd go reach out to them on Instagram.
And the way they were so quick to respond, to follow, to offer me a consultation
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and to just talk to me and get to know me and connect me everywhere.
That was like, oh my God, this world, the podcasting world is really about collaboration.
So if these people were doing that for me and I was new in this industry, why can't I.
Paid for the same way that's why anybody who comes
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to me about podcasting I'm like oh you're interested in
this I know Simona oh you're interested in this I know
Mark oh yeah Dominic like you know and the thing is anytime I'm making it has
become such a natural thing that anytime I'm sitting and I'm talking to somebody
and I hear something that clicks with somebody I'm like oh I need to connect
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you this one because I feel like you You guys will get along and create something.
And I do that because I want to see more collaborations, because especially
if I know, just like you and Sonic, who knows, maybe your parts would have crossed, maybe not.
But I would be missing out on incredible art, incredible content that the world
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needs because I refuse to make a connection.
And that doesn't mean Sonic is going to love me less just because now you two
are kind of twins and are going to fall in love with each other.
No, Soda is still going to love me. Soda is still going to love me.
And that just means that, oh, now if Soda is in town and Soda is in town,
we can all hang out because they all know each other compared to,
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oh, shit, my two friends are in town and now I got to, you know.
So to me, I think it's deeper than that just to see people create together.
Like, it just makes me happy. Look how when we were watching on Monday Song
Swap, when Dominique ended up being in Amanda and Chris's show,
just to see that the community working together and being there, I'm like,
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we need more of this. That makes me so happy.
And because also I'm in a world where I know we can all win because what's meant
for you will always be for you.
And just because you meet somebody who does the same thing to you or you collaborate
with somebody who does the same thing with you. doesn't mean it's dimming your
light actually it means more opportunity because.
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They already have their community and followers. You have yours.
It's just adding that up and you get more, they get more.
And who knows? Sometimes you need them for that inspiration that you were lacking
or for that deal because sometimes you might realize you haven't got the sponsorship
or anything because you haven't created something yet that's needing that.
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And then you guys end up teaming and you end up getting bigger
sponsorship because of that collaboration so anything
can happen and i just love seeing people
win so if you can connect
people if you can collaborate with people like
it it comes back it comes back and there's nothing like even
when i was at podfest right i had connected one
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of my friends was in canada and he wanted to start a
podcast with mark and with adam and just being there
and all of them were was there and this guy kept on saying
i know him and i know him because of paula that feeling
you know and we all took a picture but to
just see that that connection worked and they
created their own connection and they still love me actually now they love me
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even more because of that connection so there's there's so much power and the
more you connect people the more you put people out there like me even every
opportunity if i hear about an opportunity whether i want it whether I'm applying it,
I will also still share it to people I know who can get something.
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Because if I'm not sharing it, that doesn't mean I'm 100% getting it.
I might get it, I might not.
But if I don't get it and I shared it to Soda and Soda got it,
that makes me happy because who knows once you're there, because I shared it,
what blessings you're going to bring to me.
So we are going to always be pulling each other. And if
you have that mindset of thinking that it's going
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to come back to me it might not come back to me now but
it's gonna come back to me and it always does so why
not yeah like I've made some amazing amazing connections just through being
active in these various communities have you ever found yourself in a community
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that was toxic or one that that you didn't feel like you belonged in and,
or have you ever felt like you were kind of an outcast and looking for a community?
And if there is someone who's going through that, what are some advice that
you might be able to give someone in that situation?
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Definitely. So first thing, let's make it clear. I'm never an outcast.
I stand out. So everybody else is an outcast, but never me.
I have left communities that don't serve me because, again, I'm a firm believer
since I started working on myself
and knowing what I want in my life and what I don't want in my life.
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I'm more these days about if you're not bringing me peace
you you you need to go on
and I just like family not
only do I unfollow them but I stop talking
to them if you're not good for me I don't care if you we have been knowing each
other since we were kids I don't care if you're my family but at some point
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it gotta go on and I tell everybody if I am not for you if you feel like I am
toxic Please unfollow. Please block me.
And you don't even need to explain because I understand because I am on that journey.
So if you are in communities that are toxic or you feel you can't be yourself,
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leave because nobody is forcing you to be there and you don't need to be there.
And most probably they need you more than you need them because I don't see
anybody why they would be needing a community that's toxic or making you feel
outcast or judging you or anything.
And baby, there are communities out there that will accept you.
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And Soda came to Podfest for the first time.
And I always tell people this at Podfest, you will find your people.
No matter who you are, if you're an introvert, if you think you're a geek, you're not.
A sex part you are you're weird you're
whatever we you will find your community and
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you'll be shocked so for me to witness that at
Podfest I realized that I don't have to be where I don't want to be and once
you realize that I think it all goes back to working on yourself and understanding
what you want for your journey for your purpose who around you is sticking to your core values.
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Once you know your core value and your purpose and you're legitimate at taking
your personal journey seriously, then you won't stick in places that are toxic
or outcasting you and you will find your people.
Because believe it or not, I curse a lot.
And even on stages when I present, sometimes I do curse. I am loud.
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If anybody has met me, I always have a beer in my
hand and sometimes half of the time I
don't know the shit I'm talking about apparently it's incredible
shit because people keep coming to talk to me so if
I feel that way and I still find communities that accept me and actually encourage
me to continue being myself in communities where I've won a community hero award
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just by showing up as myself your Your community is out there and you shouldn't
be in communities that don't.
So my advice will be as simple as leave.
Get the fuck out because you deserve better. And just remember that you don't
need them. They need you.
Yeah, I wanted to mention that because a lot of my listeners,
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they are, I know we're talking about podcasting a lot, but a lot of my listeners are writers, artists,
musicians who are in a community that maybe isn't serving them is maybe taking
more from them than they're giving back.
And that's something that's
very very important for me and I know it's important
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to you it's it's basically what my religion is
is balance and this idea of giving and receiving an equal amount so for you
how have you been able to really tell if you are in balance with a community
and if you you are actually giving and receiving a very similar amount.
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Thank you. First of all, I want to say, compared to the music community,
I'm not sure about the writers' community.
I guess I will find out soon once my book is out.
But as far as the music community, I know those communities are brutal.
Like that's why in my head when I
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was first starting podcasting I wasn't really
sure of what I am gonna get right
but I decided to go into it open mind
so one thing is for sure be open-minded because if
you go to a place with already some mixed feelings or emotions it's always gonna
feel off compared to if you go into an open mind and I remember we talked about
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this in a clubhouse room when Stacy and Alex ended up being in that meetup in New York,
and they almost wanted to leave because they were kind of put off and then later
realized it ended up being incredible and how much it served them.
So always going to things with open mind.
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I am a good reader of energy, right? I read energy and I feel energy.
And my friends will swear on this because I will literally tell you,
I will meet somebody and I'll tell you, Soda, don't be around that person.
And you won't believe it and you'll hang out around that person and then in
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less than a week you'll come back and say, I should have listened to you because
damn. So I always listen to my judgment.
And because I've learned to not take things personally, I also move like that.
Like, don't take it personally. I just don't want to fuck with you.
Like, that's straight up. Like, it is what it is. And it's okay because I'm protecting my peace.
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I'm protecting the space I have created.
And as far as knowing if you're giving too much or anything. thing.
So for me, I've realized something about communities, right?
When you join communities, you can't just keep quiet because if you keep quiet,
you're not going to get anything and they're not going to know you and it's going to be useless.
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But when you join in these communities and also
don't start as soon as you join the communities selling your
products or selling yourself join communities with
the intention of nurturing those connections in
those communities don't try to
show off don't try to be too quick to to
sell your products or to say what you got
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just show up for people support people post their stuff and those people really
you can relate to like they understand reach out to them get to know them personally
don't reach Reach out to them to offer your service or whatever.
Just get to know them. And you will see, once you start nurturing,
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because it's all about nurturing.
And the first year I went to Podfest in real life, after virtually.
I just went there not knowing what to expect because it was my first podcasting conference.
Because my podcast started during COVID, so I never knew anything about it.
But after I created relationships but then it went an entire year and next it's
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the next year and we are going back to port first but when I look back I'm like
I really didn't do shit with these connections I made,
So I went with the intention. I was like, okay, I'm going to forgive myself
because that was my first year. I didn't know what to expect.
But also, like, yes, I connected with certain people who I already knew virtually
and still, but it was like there was more people that I could have nurtured those connections.
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So when I went back the second year, I went back with my word being intentional.
I wanted to be intentional with the connections I made. and that's why even
that's when the same year right after I came back where Matthew.
Mark fuck Mark invited
me to clubhouse and I met
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people but my my my intention was to nurture every connection and that's why
throughout the entire last year I've made sure everybody in that empowered podcasting
room I've met I've gotten to know them personally separate me and and you have
our own connection without Empowered Podcasting Room.
Me and Amanda have our own. Me and Simona have our own because I was intentional.
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So going to these communities with
the intention of nurturing those relationships, and it will give back.
You will get as much or even more than you're giving.
Like I support, I show up, but what I get behind the scene is more than what I am giving.
But because I'm doing it intentionally, because I'm actually getting,
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making those connections,
I'm intentionally nurturing those connections in a personal level where that
will become so personal, where even the support, the help, it comes naturally, the recommendation.
People recommend me and talk my name in rooms that I'm not even there. Yeah.
So that's all I got to say, like be intentional with those connections and show
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up without expectations and allow it to flow by itself.
I love that answer and completely agree and really love that you could just
you have that energy where you can just feel you could feel if it's a right fit or not.
And I'm kind of the same way.
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And I know that you also, with your connections, you do a lot of bartering and
stuff like that, which is something I'm a huge fan of. We're going to be doing some bartering.
And I know that you have a sponsor who you're doing some sort of bartering thing
with. It actually sounds really cool.
A lot of my listeners are writers, so they might be interested and hearing about something like that.
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Can you talk about how community and bartering has helped you with your creative projects?
Oh, yeah. So apart from that, also shout out to the Mopad.
They were the first people to actually have that barter service because I just showed up for them.
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I would talk to people about them. They have a service that,
oh, my God, But how am I not remembering what the fuck they do?
It helps to show episodes, your downloads.
But they had a program for big networks like Oprah, Call Me Daddy,
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whatever. Those are their clients.
So it's people who had a thousand downloads and stuff.
And just by the connection that I made and just constantly showing up.
And I met them at Podfest.
And they came on my podcast and they surprised me. since meeting you we have
decided to start a mini version for people who have,
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less than 100 downloads so that
they can also get and they're like the first person
we would like to offer it to for test drive
is you so those opportunities i'm like
wait what you want to give me free and that shit skyrocketed my my my episode
like it was the first episode that got past 300 downloads and then but not only
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that it made people go listen to my older episodes and my My older episodes were being downloaded.
So this is not just pushing numbers up.
These are real people who are listening, who are coming back and listening to
the older episodes. It was such an amazing thing.
And they do a lot of that for me. Even sometimes when I haven't used the program
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in a while, they email me. Hey, is everything okay?
Is there a problem there? How can we help you? How can we serve you?
They offered to give me subs and stuff
all because of the connection we made and just
me constantly showing up for them um sharing about their product they don't
pay me they didn't ask me to talk about it i just do it because i believe in
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it and i believe in them and they're my people and the same thing happened with
the sponsorship you're talking about and it's funny because right before Before that.
A company had reached out to me, wanting me to be a sponsor.
They had found me. And I was so excited because nobody had, like most of the
time, I have to reach out to the sponsor.
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So, you know, when you find, when you get that first email of a sponsor,
they find you by your podcast or your social media and they want to work with you.
So I got very excited. And I remember I reached out to Simona.
I was like, how do I price my prices? So Simona helped me again.
And Simona is Empowered Podcasting Room. She didn't charge me or anything.
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She literally walked through with me for free.
She helped me. She advised me. And...
And it was amazing. So when I went back to them, they didn't like the price.
And most of the time, you know, when you're money hungry and you're excited
about your sponsor, you can easily be like, okay, I'll lower it down.
But to me, again, my instincts was like, as much as I need this money,
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it just didn't feel right.
So I said, never mind, maybe next time. time
and as soon as i say no to that deal shout out
to illiquity who has she has a
travel good and free podcast she has a caring
for your old parents podcast and she also
has a right for you podcast and company she writes
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your books she's an editor and she works with you or
she can coach you through it so i
have been talking about writing my book for the past three years
i have have literally wrote like three pages
I keep on every time I pretend I'm I'm working
on my book I am literally staring at the same three pages
for the past three years so she came to me and she was like Paula you you always
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wanted to write your book how's that going I was like man and this was right
after Podfest because again I had met her virtually way before and even the
first When I went, she was there,
but remember when I said I didn't nurture those connections that year?
So the next year when I went, I nurtured that connection.
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Even this year, she became one
of my roommates. I nurtured that connection to the extent she knows me.
She knows my work ethics. She knows my struggles.
She knows where I am good at. But so when people really get to know you personally.
They know if they can help you or not because they know where you're coming from.
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They know what you're willing to do. They know what you want to achieve.
They know how they can help you achieve.
And if you deserve it or not, because nobody's going to help if you're not really
working yourself on that shit, right?
So she came to me and she was like, how about...
I sponsor your podcast and I help you. I was like, fuck yes.
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So we got on a call and the amount that she charges for, is it two or three hours per month?
It's the same amount I had given those people who didn't like my price.
So it was like, oh damn. and
that's why sometimes I am a
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firm believer in that saying all money is
not good money there was a reason why I had
to deny that one because now I have a better
deal am I getting money no but is my book getting
done hell yeah is then that a better
deal because you know editors are expensive and all that so all I had to do
was which also I can turn it into an audiobook because all I did was I recorded
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myself and then she transcribed it for me and then we went through it together,
as she was editing it and because also she
knows me so well like when she brought back the chapters that she was writing
I was reading them and I was like oh my god you really write like it's me like
I was reading it and I felt like I was the one who wrote it and that's the power
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of also or working with somebody who actually knows you.
They can actually get you seen.
So we've been working on my book and we're almost done. And she also does websites and SEO.
So because my book is almost done and I still had some extra hours.
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She ended up offering, she was like, you know, we can put those extra hours
to your website website and get your SEO and landing page for your book.
So imagine if I had paid somebody else or if I was working with somebody who
doesn't know me, probably they wouldn't even offer that or they would have charged me more for that.
But here she is willing to help me and make all this because she believes in
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me. She knows me and she knows I'm worth it.
And she even told me, she's Even if I don't get clients from the ad on your
podcast, it's still an amazing thing that we are collaborating together.
And I wouldn't have picked a better editor than her.
So yeah, shout out to Eliquity right for you.
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And that's the power of connections. That's the power of community.
I met Eliquity through...
Pod fest and then we both started attending podpals shout
out to adam shively he has a podcast called podcasting business
school which he does something incredible once
a month he has a zoom podpals where he
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teaches for 20 minutes and then the next
20 minutes is for everybody he
he always sends an email and then
it always gets full like 20 people 30 people and
it's it's a live recording but then all those
people get to to share about themselves their
podcast what type of guests they're looking which type
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of guests they want to be and this gets
to be on his platform so people can
hear you not only the people were there and but most of
us also still connect from there because i've gotten guests and i've
been on different shows because of that so i
met her in that as as well and from there actually
you met adam because we were on his talk before i took you
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to go meet at mark and stacy you remember
when we were in his talk and it got packed real because adam
you want to learn podcasting he's
your he's one of your men to go to so and then
i met her through that and adam has been a big success in
my podcasting he gives free audits you
just have have to sign up and they get like booked throughout but
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he does give free audit he gave me an audit last year
on my birthday which was fun
because i got to celebrate today but then here's the reason why i have created.
Shit happens from his audit and people again these communities you find people
who are just willing to help you because they want to see you win they get to
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know you personally they're not selling your program.
Adam has incredible programs because he's a coach. But in the entire five,
four years of me knowing him, he has never once sold me his pocket.
But I know once I have money, I am going to hire him because of all the things
he has helped me with for free in his time.
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I love these stories of collaboration.
I'm in a group on Clubhouse again called Women Into Networking.
And I've had a lot of those kind of bartering things with them.
I will, you know, make some art for them, have them on my podcast,
and they will help me maybe with a free social media strategy session.
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Or I also collaborate with my sisters who are musicians, and then I'll do art to their music.
And something I've really, really been trying to push in the creative communities,
especially with this threat against AI and everything.
One of the biggest things that I believe we could do is by working together.
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And I know that some people have had some bad experiences with collaboration,
but for me, they've all been really great.
And I know with you, I was able to make the little logo and you have another
one coming up. I was about to say, literally...
I was about to say, literally, believe it or not, I am creating a new consulting firm.
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And I was trying to figure out how to create my logo.
And it just didn't work. Nick offered some AI tools that can help me.
And I still didn't feel like it's something throughout all.
But then again, imagine if I didn't have these communities, I could have easily
gone to Fiverr and paid somebody, right?
Right but then i was like wait soda made my
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shit happens logo let me reach out to soda and it
was funny when i texted her soda i need to
talk to you and she was like oh my god i was just literally thinking about you
and i even told i was literally listening to your instagram live when you texted
me and i went to my text to text you and i tell your text that's what it was
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meant to be because Because I even told Soda, I am willing to pay.
I don't want you to do it for free for me. I am willing to pay.
And Soda said, I actually need your help with this expertise because you're good at this.
So you help me with this and I help you with that. And that works.
And that's the power of community.
That's the power of this connection.
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Because even if we were together with Soda in a community, I don't know if I
would have gone to her or not.
But because we also have this personal connection. like I
really know I love her and she drew
me before for free and I loved it
to the extent that I created a logo
for shit happens with it but so it's amazing
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I didn't drop for free I drew it because
you were willing to come in to do
an interview so thank you for that but nobody
nobody else ever draws shit for nobody for coming on their show right so for
me it's like you don't expect it but it's a good surprise like now after sharing
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that story now everybody wants to come on your podcast because everybody wants a drawing by Soda,
it's a good it's a good investment like Soda does never have to worry about
getting guests on her show because if she just tells them you will get an art
piece everybody wants to come in but it's funny because even when we were at portals.
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Somebody came to me and they're like,
I met Soda. She drew your, I saw the piece she drew for you.
I'm like, I love to hear that. Imagine somebody just met.
And Soda in the beginning, because at Podfest, she was kind of shy and unsure and everything.
But she literally blended in so well, because Podfest makes you blend in so fucking well.
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Like, you come there scared, but in less than two minutes,
you're already meeting everybody everybody's talking to you and everything
so to be able to see somebody tell me that
i met soda art is amazing and i saw your
piece it was great that makes me happy like yes she's incredible like you know
so it's things like that i was so nervous to go and then just as soon as i walked
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in the door to pod fest like you saw me right away and just just ran up and gave me a hug.
And that just alone gave me the confidence to really, you know,
not be too scared to go out and meet people. So I really appreciate that.
And I want to kind of close by asking you one, where can we find you?
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Because now everyone's gonna want to know all about you and everything about
your podcast and Instagram and everything.
But also, what are some final thoughts that you want to give about the importance
of really loving this idea of a community and not feeling like you have to do everything yourself?
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If you want to succeed the right way, you need the power of community and you
need to be willing to ask for help because nobody's going to come help you if
you're not asking for help.
And that's why I always like like to share my struggles.
When I tell people I'm a broker's bitch, I live paycheck to paycheck.
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I'm looking for a job in podcasting industry. It's not to shame myself.
It's because I want to get out of that situation. So somebody out there who's
listening or something can be like, yo, there's this job.
Paula can get it. Yo, there's this opportunity.
Give it to Paula. But do you think they'll bring the opportunity to me if my mouth is shut?
That saying that says clothes, mouth, don't get fed. It's a reality. And.
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Embrace the power of communities intentionally
by nurturing those connections show up
for those communities like do you think most of
us like waking up at seven in the fucking morning where we
would be sleeping i mean so there's how many hours behind and she has to wake
up but we go into those rooms because of how much they pour into us as well
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so you gotta show up Don't expect things to come to you if you're not showing
up, if you're not supporting.
And people think supporting is always buying things.
No. Sometimes, and people understand you don't have the money, but you can post it.
You can share it. You can tell your friends about it. You can go leave reviews.
You can go to their events.
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There are so many ways to support without using money.
So use that. But if you can share Beyonce or Rihanna, you can share your friendship.
And you can find me anywhere. I'm on every social media by TalkShitWithP.
Come hang out with me. New March is coming out. We are getting excited.
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A lot of amazing things are about to happen. Wrap ShitWithP.
Consultation is going to be born. Merchandise for ShitHappens and TalkShitWithP
is going to be by pre-order.
So only select people. people in the meantime i don't want
everybody so you gotta fuck
with me to actually rock my shit because i am
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very selective with my brand okay and that's okay
you need to be selective with your brand just like how you
protect your peace yes and i
am very honored that that you let
me help wrap your brand so so thanks
again for coming on i loved this
conversation and i will be
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seeing you around on instagram then yes well
tonight i will be seeing you around our empire
podcasting room night which everybody should come to the friday if you can't
wake up at 7 to 8 come to the 9 to 10 we normally get wild while learning and
supporting and just they can't see my wild side.
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But how else are they supposed to connect with you if you don't show them your
wild side we're talking about connecting with people they need to see all the sides yeah,
Okay, if you want to see Soda's crazy tie.
Wait, they won't get to see the side that I saw when we had the after party with you and Sonic.
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But they can get to see that. Because even I was shocked about that side.
There's layers to Soda, y'all. There's layers.
I'm not being fake. I'm just slowly introducing myself to everyone, you know.
Know but um you can just
you can just get naked in
front of people without knowing if you're safe or not you gotta
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you know some people i know i'm quick i just get
all in and that's my personality and some
people take a little bit longer but it does come the more you
trust somebody the more you let loose and that's
okay there's nothing bad about that as long as you
as long long as you you know are willing to be
evolving i'm looking forward to more after parties
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with you and sonny because i really enjoyed that
i was like okay i was right
this connection needed to happen because everyone's seen diet soda you know
like like it's still soda just diet soda just some people have seen fully exploding
carbonated soda so anyway yes join us on on Clubhouse.
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I'll put the link in the show notes and any links that you want to send me,
Paula, I'll put them down below and we will all have an awesome party.
Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for tuning into this week's episode of The Success Palette.
For social media links and bonus episodes, you can go to thesuccesspalette.com.
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And please, let's make it a successful week.
Hello, hello, everyone. You are listening to The Success Pala,
a place to discuss everything you weren’t taught in school about how to be successful in the arts.
I'm your host, Soda, and today we are going to talk about community,
the importance of community,
and how it affects us as creatives in this capitalistic competition environment.
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So to help me out with this important discussion, I have Paula,
a very good friend of mine.
She has a podcast called Talk Shit with P.
And we talked about this subject recently on an Instagram live because Paula
was about to go to a really cool event called At Frozen Audio.
(00:47):
Before we get into the subject, do you want to talk about that event and the
importance of events like that?
Hi, everybody. I am Paula, host of 50, and thank you so much, Soda, for having me.
I can talk about community all day long.
So Afros and Algiers is a conference. It's going to be their sixth, I believe.
(01:12):
Oh, yeah, it's going to be their sixth. I attended last year the first time
on their fifth anniversary.
And it's mostly for Black creators to have a space to share and connect and
educate and learn and inspire.
But what does that mean? It doesn't mean it's only for Black creatives.
Everybody is welcome, but it's catered to Black creatives and people of color
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because we also do need our spaces and our own communities.
So the thing about that experience was different because it was the first time
I'm around so many people.
People of my color because i'm so used to going to port fair
like being around different diversity so
to be around my own people and see
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the amazing shit they're doing and learn from them and
be inspired motivated and vice
versa you find that people actually have been
watching you and you didn't know because i'm their
star struck like oh my god i'm around all
these incredible people but they're like yeah your talk show
will be we know you so but also because
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before I attended I've been part of
their community online I've been showing up for
their events virtually I've been reposting their content so people notice those
things because sometimes we forget that being part of a community means you
give more than you take and that's
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when you get more out of it because if you're just taking to taking,
it's not going to work. That's not you being part of community.
So I think seeing how Black creatives work and being in that space where people
really understand the struggles compared to being in diversity where people are sympathetic,
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but they really don't get to the extreme of your struggles.
Because so and to hear how they overcome it, how they get through it,
how they can support, how they can show up for you was really an incredible thing.
So shout out to Talib for creating such a community. It takes a lot to create
a community that shows up for you.
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So that's a testament for what he has created to have all these people who are willing to help.
Give with no expectation so that's
that's the beautiful thing about it yeah like
you you think about these people who lead these communities
and there's a lot of work involved into it so it's so important that we all
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we're giving back into the pot because we're all benefiting from it and i know
we were talking a little bit last time about how people in certain demographics
like afro and in audios, like you deal,
you meant you touch on it a little bit about how you deal with certain things
that someone like me might not deal with, and the importance of kind of coming together.
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And something that I've noticed is that strong communities often have a central
link that brings people together a challenge.
So as me as being neurodivergent, you know, or maybe my military spouse community,
whatever community I'm in, if there's a struggle that we all kind of connect
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with, it helps us grow stronger.
What are some ways that you have used your challenges to help other people in
your community grow and help them feel seen and the importance of collaboration
rather than thinking of each other as competition?
So, my podcast is about creating safe space for creatives to share their creative
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journeys and their mental health struggles.
But that was after I pivoted two years ago.
Before that, it was a safe space for people to share their mental health struggles,
whatever mental health struggles you have.
So, by me creating that safe space and having people hear these stories or hear
my story, that's why I'm very...
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If anybody has seen my social media, I'm very open with my struggles,
with my depression, with my mental health, when I'm having a fucked up day,
you know, when I'm dealing with grief, you know.
I like to share that because I don't want people who are going through that
to feel like they can't share it, they can't find people to talk about it.
By sharing that people reach out
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to me to talk to me and to to just
vent or to just get words of wisdom and
to be inspired or just to have that one friend
who's willing to listen because i think sadly the
society we live in people are not willing to lend
a ear to listen unless they're being listened so
for some people to to know that there's one
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person out there who's gonna listen to me regardless and it's
funny that i say that because i just came
we just came back from podfest right and before
going to podfest i was running this and
you'll be zoom part zoom meetings we did four
of them and all of them i would tell people when you
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see me just come hug me because i love
hugs and that's how i like like i just will
run up and hug somebody so a
lot of people were running up to hug me and as
we hugged we connected in a.
Different level as I stood on the stage and talked
about my presentation I connected with people on
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a different level until today I receive calls
voice notes messages constantly
like I think I since I've been back I've spoken more
to the people I've met at Podfest this year
the new ones than even my family
because for some reason they
feel that i am a safe space they know i'm a
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safe space so they call me for every other
thing to to one point i made a joke i was like i think i should start
charging for therapy right now because i'm
literally giving you all free therapy but there's something
about you the person
i am knowing that out there there are people who
know that no matter what they can
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call Paula and Paula will be willing to
listen and to vent and without judgment
because some of the things I've had in these few days I'm like
damn bitch but then sorry can I cast in here I'll set this one as explicit so
okay I didn't want that because I know some people don't want casting so I want
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to make sure I obey that so it's but it's a good feeling so for For me,
and I'm leaving my brand,
my brand and my purpose was to create a safe space for people to be able to share.
So even when I share stories that I am scared for the world to hear,
I went on a friend's podcast, Finding OK.
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Finding Hecate, I believe it was, or Finding O.K., I can't remember.
For the first time in my life, I shared my rape story.
Nobody had heard the story. I'd never spoken about it, and I shared it.
I was so scared of this episode coming out for people to hear.
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And, you know, most of the time a victim comes out and some people don't take
it the right way, especially when alcohol was involved or anything.
So you expect some backlashes and all that.
But I will not forget until today I received an email, a message, Instagram message.
This person found me after listening to that episode. episode
(09:04):
and it was so long but basically
she was saying that she's going through the same
thing I went through and she has the same thoughts I had and she's so happy
she listened to this episode the strength and the courage and how I turned that
around gives her hope that she can eventually she She will be better because
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I am better and I took control.
And that made me cry. And until today, I check on her every now and then.
She texts me every now and then. We have connected our connection.
She knows anytime she's feeling some type of way, she can come to me and talk to me.
So that's why I feel like there's so many ways you can impact somebody in these communities.
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Even just by sharing your story, you might think your story does not have power,
but what comes out of it is helping somebody, supporting somebody.
Or even, let me share an example of Wally. Wally Green is a ping pong player.
He shared his story on TikTok in his community.
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And he got a message from somebody who was like, I was about to end my life
today, and you gave me one more extra day.
To think about it. And that's a powerful thing to be able to,
just by sharing your story, you're encouraging, you're inspiring somebody out there.
And that's why I think I went into the creative, allowing people to share their
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creative journeys because that's.
When people hear that, okay, they might be here right now, but they started from here.
They had these struggles, but they still kept on pushing, can be inspiring to
somebody out there who's sitting thinking they have to have all these dollars to create this dream.
But you can start from anywhere by also having the right communities,
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the right support, and the right mentors.
And even if that means doing internship, if that means showing up at clubhouse
seven in the morning, Monday to Friday, if that means instead of ordering Uber
Eats or buying that expensive Louis Vuitton bag,
getting a ticket to Podfest so that you can mingle with people.
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So I hope that answers the question.
Absolutely. I, oh my gosh, you gave so many good nuggets in there.
And I would love to hear your thoughts about how we can create that safe environment,
that safe community, because I know for you, basically, so for anyone listening,
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Paula and I are both in a community on an app called Clubhouse,
which I do want to talk a little bit about how awesome that app has been for
both of us. But we're in a podcast community.
And I...
Feel like I can say anything to these group of people because it's a safe place.
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And a big part of that is you, Paula, of you putting yourself out there.
And I'm like, wow, Paula is able to be herself.
And that makes me feel like I could be myself.
What are some other ways that we can create that safe place for other people?
And can you talk also a little bit about the Clubhouse app and some of the communities that you are in?
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All right. So let me start with the Clubhouse app.
Believe it or not, back in the day during COVID-2020, I was very, very much active.
We had community connections.
I was a moderator there. We would do so many events weekly.
And my favorite was brunch Sundays where people come in with their brunch meal
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and we talk about what we are eating waiting for our brunch and then have some
questions and ask around.
But as far as of lately, believe it or not, I'm only actively in the Empowered Podcasting Room.
Like after eight o'clock, I'm out. And then Friday again until nine o'clock, I'm there.
So maybe I will start getting back into other communities, but Clubhouse really pisses me off.
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And the only reason I really do make it It is because of the empowered podcasting
room and just the way that communities, you learn, you laugh, you cry, you support,
you share, you teach.
It's an incredible community. So shout out to Mark for creating that.
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Shout out to all the moderators in that room.
I don't want to mention names in case I forget somebody.
But you know yourselves. and they created that space for me to show up.
As myself. And I get praised by being myself. I get seen by being myself.
So I feel like the way you can create a safe space for me is you yourself being
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your authentically self.
If you are not sharing your struggles, how is somebody going to know you are
a safe space for them to come to you?
Because if I'm watching and I've never seen, let's say so that you have a community,
right? and you're preaching about you are creating a safe space and you want
people to come together and share.
But all the time, everything I hear you share or talk about is happy shit because,
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you know, there are those people in social media who just share the good things,
the luxury, the extravagant.
But nothing on the bad side, you know.
So if I'm not seeing that, I can't relate because in my head,
I'm like, but she has a good life.
She she's on this level why
would she understand what i am going through right but then
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if you come if you're that person when
i come into your community and i see you've
shared if you're if you're grieving you talk about it if you have mental health
struggles you talk about it you share the good stuff you share the bad stuff
you share the in between you literally opening up and welcoming me into your
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space where I can see like, oh my God,
I feel like she can understand because she went through this and this.
So I think people need to be able to relate to you.
And that's why I'm always saying how important it is showing up authentically
yourself online just as you show up in person.
Because if anybody has met me, I'm the same person online and offline.
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So you can never say, oh, damn,
I thought she was like this because she's portraying this online.
But then when I met her, she's like this. So show up as your authentic self
and allow yourself to be, well, Mark told us not to use vulnerable anymore.
So is it strong? Allow yourself to be strong, to share not only the good times,
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but your struggles so that people can relate, people can feel safe to be in your presence.
And then people will just start opening up.
And because I love those deep connections, So I'm always trying to make people
uncomfortable so that they can get comfortable with me.
And that has worked with me. Like I literally say some shit and I'm very sarcastic.
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And by your response, it will tell me if I need to be in your presence or not.
So I think that's the best way for you to create a safe space in my thinking.
Because that's how I did it. Yeah, I remember we were talking about using the
term authentically courageous instead of vulnerable because,
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yeah, again, with vulnerability,
it's like you're putting yourself in harm's way.
But being courageous and being authentic is more empowering.
So I really like that Mark brought that up again, something,
you know, learning from each other with community and something else that's
been great for me with with community is making connections.
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Maybe, I mean, just last week, I was on your podcast and you introduced me to
one of your friends who I clicked with a lot and we're constantly connecting each other.
And as creatives, connections are so important because we can't do everything on your own.
What are some ways that making connections with others and also helping others
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make connections has helped you in regards to creativity and fulfilling some
of the projects that you're wanting to work on?
Oh, my God. There's nothing, nothing I love like connecting people.
All my life I've been the middle person.
Even if you ask my dad or my friends back in school, my house used to be the after-party house.
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My house used to be the pre-gaming house because I just like bringing people together.
There's something amazing about seeing that. And I used to be very big on matchmaking.
There are some couples who are matchmakers and they are married right now,
and I can take credit for that.
But because, again, I don't know if it's because I'm a cancer or I am an empathy
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and I feel things too deep, but I am also an observer.
Like I will literally observe things that most people don't.
Even in social media, I read into things.
People's tweets people's pictures people
that's why I noticed when somebody is off and like
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just last December something told
me this still people don't look like their social media
ain't making sense and I reached out to them
and until today they're like I can't believe you actually could
tell that we were not okay and when I reached out
they really weren't okay and I got to talk to them and be
there for them because sometimes people don't want to
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tell but they are hoping that people notice
because I think the idea also of social media is we
are so used to thinking oh because somebody
is posting on social media or they're online or they're
this they must be okay but as us being
creatives we know sometimes we have to be on social media even
if we are not okay we know we have to post it
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even if we're not okay and some people schedule posts
you know some people might be on vacation for two weeks but
they have posts going out every day two posts
a day but they're not there because they schedule that shit so
i dig much more deeper
than normal people and i feel like so when
i started podcasting i wasn't sure how deep this would go i was just taking
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it this is a hobby doing covid and it has helped me get out of my depression
so when the things open up we'll see but then i started attending pod fest and
this was just just virtually.
And I would hear the speaker speak and then I'd go reach out to them on Instagram.
And the way they were so quick to respond, to follow, to offer me a consultation
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and to just talk to me and get to know me and connect me everywhere.
That was like, oh my God, this world, the podcasting world is really about collaboration.
So if these people were doing that for me and I was new in this industry, why can't I.
Paid for the same way that's why anybody who comes
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to me about podcasting I'm like oh you're interested in
this I know Simona oh you're interested in this I know
Mark oh yeah Dominic like you know and the thing is anytime I'm making it has
become such a natural thing that anytime I'm sitting and I'm talking to somebody
and I hear something that clicks with somebody I'm like oh I need to connect
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you this one because I feel like you You guys will get along and create something.
And I do that because I want to see more collaborations, because especially
if I know, just like you and Sonic, who knows, maybe your parts would have crossed, maybe not.
But I would be missing out on incredible art, incredible content that the world
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needs because I refuse to make a connection.
And that doesn't mean Sonic is going to love me less just because now you two
are kind of twins and are going to fall in love with each other.
No, Soda is still going to love me. Soda is still going to love me.
And that just means that, oh, now if Soda is in town and Soda is in town,
we can all hang out because they all know each other compared to,
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oh, shit, my two friends are in town and now I got to, you know.
So to me, I think it's deeper than that just to see people create together.
Like, it just makes me happy. Look how when we were watching on Monday Song
Swap, when Dominique ended up being in Amanda and Chris's show,
just to see that the community working together and being there, I'm like,
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we need more of this. That makes me so happy.
And because also I'm in a world where I know we can all win because what's meant
for you will always be for you.
And just because you meet somebody who does the same thing to you or you collaborate
with somebody who does the same thing with you. doesn't mean it's dimming your
light actually it means more opportunity because.
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They already have their community and followers. You have yours.
It's just adding that up and you get more, they get more.
And who knows? Sometimes you need them for that inspiration that you were lacking
or for that deal because sometimes you might realize you haven't got the sponsorship
or anything because you haven't created something yet that's needing that.
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And then you guys end up teaming and you end up getting bigger
sponsorship because of that collaboration so anything
can happen and i just love seeing people
win so if you can connect
people if you can collaborate with people like
it it comes back it comes back and there's nothing like even
when i was at podfest right i had connected one
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of my friends was in canada and he wanted to start a
podcast with mark and with adam and just being there
and all of them were was there and this guy kept on saying
i know him and i know him because of paula that feeling
you know and we all took a picture but to
just see that that connection worked and they
created their own connection and they still love me actually now they love me
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even more because of that connection so there's there's so much power and the
more you connect people the more you put people out there like me even every
opportunity if i hear about an opportunity whether i want it whether I'm applying it,
I will also still share it to people I know who can get something.
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Because if I'm not sharing it, that doesn't mean I'm 100% getting it.
I might get it, I might not.
But if I don't get it and I shared it to Soda and Soda got it,
that makes me happy because who knows once you're there, because I shared it,
what blessings you're going to bring to me.
So we are going to always be pulling each other. And if
you have that mindset of thinking that it's going
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to come back to me it might not come back to me now but
it's gonna come back to me and it always does so why
not yeah like I've made some amazing amazing connections just through being
active in these various communities have you ever found yourself in a community
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that was toxic or one that that you didn't feel like you belonged in and,
or have you ever felt like you were kind of an outcast and looking for a community?
And if there is someone who's going through that, what are some advice that
you might be able to give someone in that situation?
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Definitely. So first thing, let's make it clear. I'm never an outcast.
I stand out. So everybody else is an outcast, but never me.
I have left communities that don't serve me because, again, I'm a firm believer
since I started working on myself
and knowing what I want in my life and what I don't want in my life.
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I'm more these days about if you're not bringing me peace
you you you need to go on
and I just like family not
only do I unfollow them but I stop talking
to them if you're not good for me I don't care if you we have been knowing each
other since we were kids I don't care if you're my family but at some point
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it gotta go on and I tell everybody if I am not for you if you feel like I am
toxic Please unfollow. Please block me.
And you don't even need to explain because I understand because I am on that journey.
So if you are in communities that are toxic or you feel you can't be yourself,
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leave because nobody is forcing you to be there and you don't need to be there.
And most probably they need you more than you need them because I don't see
anybody why they would be needing a community that's toxic or making you feel
outcast or judging you or anything.
And baby, there are communities out there that will accept you.
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And Soda came to Podfest for the first time.
And I always tell people this at Podfest, you will find your people.
No matter who you are, if you're an introvert, if you think you're a geek, you're not.
A sex part you are you're weird you're
whatever we you will find your community and
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you'll be shocked so for me to witness that at
Podfest I realized that I don't have to be where I don't want to be and once
you realize that I think it all goes back to working on yourself and understanding
what you want for your journey for your purpose who around you is sticking to your core values.
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Once you know your core value and your purpose and you're legitimate at taking
your personal journey seriously, then you won't stick in places that are toxic
or outcasting you and you will find your people.
Because believe it or not, I curse a lot.
And even on stages when I present, sometimes I do curse. I am loud.
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If anybody has met me, I always have a beer in my
hand and sometimes half of the time I
don't know the shit I'm talking about apparently it's incredible
shit because people keep coming to talk to me so if
I feel that way and I still find communities that accept me and actually encourage
me to continue being myself in communities where I've won a community hero award
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just by showing up as myself your Your community is out there and you shouldn't
be in communities that don't.
So my advice will be as simple as leave.
Get the fuck out because you deserve better. And just remember that you don't
need them. They need you.
Yeah, I wanted to mention that because a lot of my listeners,
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they are, I know we're talking about podcasting a lot, but a lot of my listeners are writers, artists,
musicians who are in a community that maybe isn't serving them is maybe taking
more from them than they're giving back.
And that's something that's
very very important for me and I know it's important
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to you it's it's basically what my religion is
is balance and this idea of giving and receiving an equal amount so for you
how have you been able to really tell if you are in balance with a community
and if you you are actually giving and receiving a very similar amount.
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Thank you. First of all, I want to say, compared to the music community,
I'm not sure about the writers' community.
I guess I will find out soon once my book is out.
But as far as the music community, I know those communities are brutal.
Like that's why in my head when I
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was first starting podcasting I wasn't really
sure of what I am gonna get right
but I decided to go into it open mind
so one thing is for sure be open-minded because if
you go to a place with already some mixed feelings or emotions it's always gonna
feel off compared to if you go into an open mind and I remember we talked about
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this in a clubhouse room when Stacy and Alex ended up being in that meetup in New York,
and they almost wanted to leave because they were kind of put off and then later
realized it ended up being incredible and how much it served them.
So always going to things with open mind.
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I am a good reader of energy, right? I read energy and I feel energy.
And my friends will swear on this because I will literally tell you,
I will meet somebody and I'll tell you, Soda, don't be around that person.
And you won't believe it and you'll hang out around that person and then in
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less than a week you'll come back and say, I should have listened to you because
damn. So I always listen to my judgment.
And because I've learned to not take things personally, I also move like that.
Like, don't take it personally. I just don't want to fuck with you.
Like, that's straight up. Like, it is what it is. And it's okay because I'm protecting my peace.
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I'm protecting the space I have created.
And as far as knowing if you're giving too much or anything. thing.
So for me, I've realized something about communities, right?
When you join communities, you can't just keep quiet because if you keep quiet,
you're not going to get anything and they're not going to know you and it's going to be useless.
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But when you join in these communities and also
don't start as soon as you join the communities selling your
products or selling yourself join communities with
the intention of nurturing those connections in
those communities don't try to
show off don't try to be too quick to to
sell your products or to say what you got
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just show up for people support people post their stuff and those people really
you can relate to like they understand reach out to them get to know them personally
don't reach Reach out to them to offer your service or whatever.
Just get to know them. And you will see, once you start nurturing,
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because it's all about nurturing.
And the first year I went to Podfest in real life, after virtually.
I just went there not knowing what to expect because it was my first podcasting conference.
Because my podcast started during COVID, so I never knew anything about it.
But after I created relationships but then it went an entire year and next it's
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the next year and we are going back to port first but when I look back I'm like
I really didn't do shit with these connections I made,
So I went with the intention. I was like, okay, I'm going to forgive myself
because that was my first year. I didn't know what to expect.
But also, like, yes, I connected with certain people who I already knew virtually
and still, but it was like there was more people that I could have nurtured those connections.
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So when I went back the second year, I went back with my word being intentional.
I wanted to be intentional with the connections I made. and that's why even
that's when the same year right after I came back where Matthew.
Mark fuck Mark invited
me to clubhouse and I met
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people but my my my intention was to nurture every connection and that's why
throughout the entire last year I've made sure everybody in that empowered podcasting
room I've met I've gotten to know them personally separate me and and you have
our own connection without Empowered Podcasting Room.
Me and Amanda have our own. Me and Simona have our own because I was intentional.
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So going to these communities with
the intention of nurturing those relationships, and it will give back.
You will get as much or even more than you're giving.
Like I support, I show up, but what I get behind the scene is more than what I am giving.
But because I'm doing it intentionally, because I'm actually getting,
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making those connections,
I'm intentionally nurturing those connections in a personal level where that
will become so personal, where even the support, the help, it comes naturally, the recommendation.
People recommend me and talk my name in rooms that I'm not even there. Yeah.
So that's all I got to say, like be intentional with those connections and show
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up without expectations and allow it to flow by itself.
I love that answer and completely agree and really love that you could just
you have that energy where you can just feel you could feel if it's a right fit or not.
And I'm kind of the same way.
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And I know that you also, with your connections, you do a lot of bartering and
stuff like that, which is something I'm a huge fan of. We're going to be doing some bartering.
And I know that you have a sponsor who you're doing some sort of bartering thing
with. It actually sounds really cool.
A lot of my listeners are writers, so they might be interested and hearing about something like that.
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Can you talk about how community and bartering has helped you with your creative projects?
Oh, yeah. So apart from that, also shout out to the Mopad.
They were the first people to actually have that barter service because I just showed up for them.
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I would talk to people about them. They have a service that,
oh, my God, But how am I not remembering what the fuck they do?
It helps to show episodes, your downloads.
But they had a program for big networks like Oprah, Call Me Daddy,
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whatever. Those are their clients.
So it's people who had a thousand downloads and stuff.
And just by the connection that I made and just constantly showing up.
And I met them at Podfest.
And they came on my podcast and they surprised me. since meeting you we have
decided to start a mini version for people who have,
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less than 100 downloads so that
they can also get and they're like the first person
we would like to offer it to for test drive
is you so those opportunities i'm like
wait what you want to give me free and that shit skyrocketed my my my episode
like it was the first episode that got past 300 downloads and then but not only
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that it made people go listen to my older episodes and my My older episodes were being downloaded.
So this is not just pushing numbers up.
These are real people who are listening, who are coming back and listening to
the older episodes. It was such an amazing thing.
And they do a lot of that for me. Even sometimes when I haven't used the program
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in a while, they email me. Hey, is everything okay?
Is there a problem there? How can we help you? How can we serve you?
They offered to give me subs and stuff
all because of the connection we made and just
me constantly showing up for them um sharing about their product they don't
pay me they didn't ask me to talk about it i just do it because i believe in
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it and i believe in them and they're my people and the same thing happened with
the sponsorship you're talking about and it's funny because right before Before that.
A company had reached out to me, wanting me to be a sponsor.
They had found me. And I was so excited because nobody had, like most of the
time, I have to reach out to the sponsor.
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So, you know, when you find, when you get that first email of a sponsor,
they find you by your podcast or your social media and they want to work with you.
So I got very excited. And I remember I reached out to Simona.
I was like, how do I price my prices? So Simona helped me again.
And Simona is Empowered Podcasting Room. She didn't charge me or anything.
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She literally walked through with me for free.
She helped me. She advised me. And...
And it was amazing. So when I went back to them, they didn't like the price.
And most of the time, you know, when you're money hungry and you're excited
about your sponsor, you can easily be like, okay, I'll lower it down.
But to me, again, my instincts was like, as much as I need this money,
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it just didn't feel right.
So I said, never mind, maybe next time. time
and as soon as i say no to that deal shout out
to illiquity who has she has a
travel good and free podcast she has a caring
for your old parents podcast and she also
has a right for you podcast and company she writes
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your books she's an editor and she works with you or
she can coach you through it so i
have been talking about writing my book for the past three years
i have have literally wrote like three pages
I keep on every time I pretend I'm I'm working
on my book I am literally staring at the same three pages
for the past three years so she came to me and she was like Paula you you always
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wanted to write your book how's that going I was like man and this was right
after Podfest because again I had met her virtually way before and even the
first When I went, she was there,
but remember when I said I didn't nurture those connections that year?
So the next year when I went, I nurtured that connection.
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Even this year, she became one
of my roommates. I nurtured that connection to the extent she knows me.
She knows my work ethics. She knows my struggles.
She knows where I am good at. But so when people really get to know you personally.
They know if they can help you or not because they know where you're coming from.
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They know what you're willing to do. They know what you want to achieve.
They know how they can help you achieve.
And if you deserve it or not, because nobody's going to help if you're not really
working yourself on that shit, right?
So she came to me and she was like, how about...
I sponsor your podcast and I help you. I was like, fuck yes.
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So we got on a call and the amount that she charges for, is it two or three hours per month?
It's the same amount I had given those people who didn't like my price.
So it was like, oh damn. and
that's why sometimes I am a
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firm believer in that saying all money is
not good money there was a reason why I had
to deny that one because now I have a better
deal am I getting money no but is my book getting
done hell yeah is then that a better
deal because you know editors are expensive and all that so all I had to do
was which also I can turn it into an audiobook because all I did was I recorded
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myself and then she transcribed it for me and then we went through it together,
as she was editing it and because also she
knows me so well like when she brought back the chapters that she was writing
I was reading them and I was like oh my god you really write like it's me like
I was reading it and I felt like I was the one who wrote it and that's the power
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of also or working with somebody who actually knows you.
They can actually get you seen.
So we've been working on my book and we're almost done. And she also does websites and SEO.
So because my book is almost done and I still had some extra hours.
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She ended up offering, she was like, you know, we can put those extra hours
to your website website and get your SEO and landing page for your book.
So imagine if I had paid somebody else or if I was working with somebody who
doesn't know me, probably they wouldn't even offer that or they would have charged me more for that.
But here she is willing to help me and make all this because she believes in
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me. She knows me and she knows I'm worth it.
And she even told me, she's Even if I don't get clients from the ad on your
podcast, it's still an amazing thing that we are collaborating together.
And I wouldn't have picked a better editor than her.
So yeah, shout out to Eliquity right for you.
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And that's the power of connections. That's the power of community.
I met Eliquity through...
Pod fest and then we both started attending podpals shout
out to adam shively he has a podcast called podcasting business
school which he does something incredible once
a month he has a zoom podpals where he
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teaches for 20 minutes and then the next
20 minutes is for everybody he
he always sends an email and then
it always gets full like 20 people 30 people and
it's it's a live recording but then all those
people get to to share about themselves their
podcast what type of guests they're looking which type
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of guests they want to be and this gets
to be on his platform so people can
hear you not only the people were there and but most of
us also still connect from there because i've gotten guests and i've
been on different shows because of that so i
met her in that as as well and from there actually
you met adam because we were on his talk before i took you
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to go meet at mark and stacy you remember
when we were in his talk and it got packed real because adam
you want to learn podcasting he's
your he's one of your men to go to so and then
i met her through that and adam has been a big success in
my podcasting he gives free audits you
just have have to sign up and they get like booked throughout but
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he does give free audit he gave me an audit last year
on my birthday which was fun
because i got to celebrate today but then here's the reason why i have created.
Shit happens from his audit and people again these communities you find people
who are just willing to help you because they want to see you win they get to
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know you personally they're not selling your program.
Adam has incredible programs because he's a coach. But in the entire five,
four years of me knowing him, he has never once sold me his pocket.
But I know once I have money, I am going to hire him because of all the things
he has helped me with for free in his time.
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I love these stories of collaboration.
I'm in a group on Clubhouse again called Women Into Networking.
And I've had a lot of those kind of bartering things with them.
I will, you know, make some art for them, have them on my podcast,
and they will help me maybe with a free social media strategy session.
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Or I also collaborate with my sisters who are musicians, and then I'll do art to their music.
And something I've really, really been trying to push in the creative communities,
especially with this threat against AI and everything.
One of the biggest things that I believe we could do is by working together.
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And I know that some people have had some bad experiences with collaboration,
but for me, they've all been really great.
And I know with you, I was able to make the little logo and you have another
one coming up. I was about to say, literally...
I was about to say, literally, believe it or not, I am creating a new consulting firm.
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And I was trying to figure out how to create my logo.
And it just didn't work. Nick offered some AI tools that can help me.
And I still didn't feel like it's something throughout all.
But then again, imagine if I didn't have these communities, I could have easily
gone to Fiverr and paid somebody, right?
Right but then i was like wait soda made my
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shit happens logo let me reach out to soda and it
was funny when i texted her soda i need to
talk to you and she was like oh my god i was just literally thinking about you
and i even told i was literally listening to your instagram live when you texted
me and i went to my text to text you and i tell your text that's what it was
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meant to be because Because I even told Soda, I am willing to pay.
I don't want you to do it for free for me. I am willing to pay.
And Soda said, I actually need your help with this expertise because you're good at this.
So you help me with this and I help you with that. And that works.
And that's the power of community.
That's the power of this connection.
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Because even if we were together with Soda in a community, I don't know if I
would have gone to her or not.
But because we also have this personal connection. like I
really know I love her and she drew
me before for free and I loved it
to the extent that I created a logo
for shit happens with it but so it's amazing
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I didn't drop for free I drew it because
you were willing to come in to do
an interview so thank you for that but nobody
nobody else ever draws shit for nobody for coming on their show right so for
me it's like you don't expect it but it's a good surprise like now after sharing
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that story now everybody wants to come on your podcast because everybody wants a drawing by Soda,
it's a good it's a good investment like Soda does never have to worry about
getting guests on her show because if she just tells them you will get an art
piece everybody wants to come in but it's funny because even when we were at portals.
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Somebody came to me and they're like,
I met Soda. She drew your, I saw the piece she drew for you.
I'm like, I love to hear that. Imagine somebody just met.
And Soda in the beginning, because at Podfest, she was kind of shy and unsure and everything.
But she literally blended in so well, because Podfest makes you blend in so fucking well.
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Like, you come there scared, but in less than two minutes,
you're already meeting everybody everybody's talking to you and everything
so to be able to see somebody tell me that
i met soda art is amazing and i saw your
piece it was great that makes me happy like yes she's incredible like you know
so it's things like that i was so nervous to go and then just as soon as i walked
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in the door to pod fest like you saw me right away and just just ran up and gave me a hug.
And that just alone gave me the confidence to really, you know,
not be too scared to go out and meet people. So I really appreciate that.
And I want to kind of close by asking you one, where can we find you?
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Because now everyone's gonna want to know all about you and everything about
your podcast and Instagram and everything.
But also, what are some final thoughts that you want to give about the importance
of really loving this idea of a community and not feeling like you have to do everything yourself?
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If you want to succeed the right way, you need the power of community and you
need to be willing to ask for help because nobody's going to come help you if
you're not asking for help.
And that's why I always like like to share my struggles.
When I tell people I'm a broker's bitch, I live paycheck to paycheck.
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I'm looking for a job in podcasting industry. It's not to shame myself.
It's because I want to get out of that situation. So somebody out there who's
listening or something can be like, yo, there's this job.
Paula can get it. Yo, there's this opportunity.
Give it to Paula. But do you think they'll bring the opportunity to me if my mouth is shut?
That saying that says clothes, mouth, don't get fed. It's a reality. And.
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Embrace the power of communities intentionally
by nurturing those connections show up
for those communities like do you think most of
us like waking up at seven in the fucking morning where we
would be sleeping i mean so there's how many hours behind and she has to wake
up but we go into those rooms because of how much they pour into us as well
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so you gotta show up Don't expect things to come to you if you're not showing
up, if you're not supporting.
And people think supporting is always buying things.
No. Sometimes, and people understand you don't have the money, but you can post it.
You can share it. You can tell your friends about it. You can go leave reviews.
You can go to their events.
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There are so many ways to support without using money.
So use that. But if you can share Beyonce or Rihanna, you can share your friendship.
And you can find me anywhere. I'm on every social media by TalkShitWithP.
Come hang out with me. New March is coming out. We are getting excited.
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A lot of amazing things are about to happen. Wrap ShitWithP.
Consultation is going to be born. Merchandise for ShitHappens and TalkShitWithP
is going to be by pre-order.
So only select people. people in the meantime i don't want
everybody so you gotta fuck
with me to actually rock my shit because i am
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very selective with my brand okay and that's okay
you need to be selective with your brand just like how you
protect your peace yes and i
am very honored that that you let
me help wrap your brand so so thanks
again for coming on i loved this
conversation and i will be
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seeing you around on instagram then yes well
tonight i will be seeing you around our empire
podcasting room night which everybody should come to the friday if you can't
wake up at 7 to 8 come to the 9 to 10 we normally get wild while learning and
supporting and just they can't see my wild side.
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But how else are they supposed to connect with you if you don't show them your
wild side we're talking about connecting with people they need to see all the sides yeah,
Okay, if you want to see Soda's crazy tie.
Wait, they won't get to see the side that I saw when we had the after party with you and Sonic.
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But they can get to see that. Because even I was shocked about that side.
There's layers to Soda, y'all. There's layers.
I'm not being fake. I'm just slowly introducing myself to everyone, you know.
Know but um you can just
you can just get naked in
front of people without knowing if you're safe or not you gotta
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you know some people i know i'm quick i just get
all in and that's my personality and some
people take a little bit longer but it does come the more you
trust somebody the more you let loose and that's
okay there's nothing bad about that as long as you
as long long as you you know are willing to be
evolving i'm looking forward to more after parties
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with you and sonny because i really enjoyed that
i was like okay i was right
this connection needed to happen because everyone's seen diet soda you know
like like it's still soda just diet soda just some people have seen fully exploding
carbonated soda so anyway yes join us on on Clubhouse.
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I'll put the link in the show notes and any links that you want to send me,
Paula, I'll put them down below and we will all have an awesome party.
Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for tuning into this week's episode of The Success Palette.
For social media links and bonus episodes, you can go to thesuccesspalette.com.
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And please, let's make it a successful week.
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