In this episode of the Transformation Leaders Podcast, Tony Lockwood interviews Alicia James, a seasoned change management professional and author of Mars and Venus: How Project Managers and Change Managers Can Work Together for the Greater Good.

Elisa shares her journey into change management, her perspectives on transformation, and insights from her book.

Here's what you'll learn:

The Distinction Between Change and Transformation: Alicia explains the nuances of change versus transformation, emphasizing that transformation is a significant, organization-wide shift that redefines operations, culture, and business models, unlike smaller-scale, incremental changes.

The Dynamics of Change Management: Elisa shares her entry into the field, initially through challenging circumstances, and her evolution into a thought leader. She discusses strategies for effective stakeholder engagement, navigating resistance, and the critical role of change impact assessments.

The Collaborative Relationship Between Project and Change Managers: Drawing from her book, Elisa highlights the often-overlooked necessity for project managers and change managers to collaborate effectively. She underscores the importance of integrating change efforts from the outset to ensure projects deliver their intended benefits.

This episode is packed with practical advice and real-world insights for anyone navigating the complexities of transformation, making it a must-listen for leaders and change practitioners alike.

Submit your questions If you want to clarify anything with Tony or Alicia comment below or email Tony. We will make sure to respond.

About Tony Lockwood After a 25-year career delivering change and transformation, Tony launched The Transformation Leaders Hub (#TLH) in 2020. Its core focus is to help members stand out from the crowd, build their network with their peers and open up new career opportunities. www.thetransformationleadershub.com

Tony's 'day job' is as a Principal Consultant with FSP Consulting Services (FSP), a leading digital transformation specialist, combining real-world experience in business strategy, change and adoption and digital solution delivery. www.fsp.co

Tony can be contacted by email at tony.lockwood@.fsp.co

About Alicia James For the past 20 years, Alicia has spent her career as an organisational change specialist helping to implement change and build business change capability in organisations. ChangeIT Up Change Management, specialises in supporting clients to embrace change on a global scale.

Whether you're adopting a new technical solution or managing a complicated organisation-wide change program, our GetIT Right The First Time© Framework will show you how to incorporate and capture all considerations for project initiation and start up - from concept through to development, transition and adoption.

Author of MARS and VENUS: How Project Managers and Change Managers can work together for the greater good - available from Amazon - https://www.amazon.com.au/MARS-VENUS-Project-Managers-together/dp/B0DFH3TRLH Contact Alicia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alicia-james-cm/

Transformation Leaders Body of Knowledge (TLBoK) Tony is delighted to launch the first edition of the TLBoK, a definitive resource created for transformation leaders by transformation leaders, providing a comprehensive exploration of strategies, methodologies and insights that have redefined successful organisational change and transformation. Available in all leading bookstores or via the #TLH website - https://thetransformationleadershub.com

About #TLH The Transformation Leaders Hub is a truly global peer-to-

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