August 14, 2024 • 18 mins
Welcome to episode four of The Truth About Hair, where we delve into the essentials of maintaining a healthy hair care routine. In this exciting episode, we are joined by Kristy Hungerford, co-founder of Regrow, who shares her expert insights on effective hair care habits and the factors contributing to hair loss.
Kristy emphasises the importance of hair hygiene and introduces a step-by-step daily hair care regimen. She discusses the role of quality ingredients in shampoos and conditioners, as well as the benefits of using tools like scalp massage brushes and derma rollers. The episode also addresses common misconceptions about hair washing frequency and the detrimental effects of certain hair products and practices.
Furthermore, Kristy offers tailored advice for different hair types, the significance of scalp health, and the impact of diet on hair vitality. Listeners will gain valuable knowledge on avoiding harmful hair habits, choosing the right products, and maintaining a realistic approach to hair care during life's various stages.
Join us as Kristy Hungerford shares her passion and expertise to help you achieve your own crowning glory of beautiful, healthy hair.
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Welcome to episode four of The Truth About Hair, and we've got something really
exciting today. We're joined by Regrow co-founder, Christy Hungerford.
So Christy's here. She's going to take us through what a healthy hair care routine
looks like, what habits should be included in everybody's hair care routine,
and also what habits are contributing to hair loss if you are experiencing active hair loss.
(00:21):
Welcome, Christy. Thank you. Good to be here. So let's just jump right in.
So why is hair hygiene so important for healthy hair growth?
I'm sure you've heard on previous episodes where we talk a lot about DHT and
the buildup of DHT on your hair scalp, in your follicle, sorry.
So cleanliness is all about getting the DHT out of the follicle,
ensuring that the scalp is clean and a really good environment for the hair to grow from.
(00:46):
So you don't want to have dandruff or things like that.
So we need to get the hair hygiene to its best point so that the hair has the best chance to grow.
Okay. And so what should a basic daily hair care routine look like?
What are the essential elements for that?
Yeah. I think it's always important to wash your hair with shampoo twice because
the first wash is just kind of getting through the oils or any product on your
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hair and things like that.
And the second one really gets down to the root and condition once.
And you want to leave your conditioner in your hair for one to two minutes.
When you're washing your hair, we have scalp massage brush, which brings the
blood flow and all the nutrients to the root of your hair.
So So I always love to use the scalp massage brush and it's like having a little massage.
(01:29):
Well, you love your luxury. I really do.
And then, you know, if you have a really good wide tooth comb to comb the conditioner
through your hair while it's wet as well, just very gently because your hair
is at its most fragile when it's wet.
And give it a good rinse out and then once you jump out of
the shower towel dry it then you can use your derma roller
(01:49):
two to three times a week for your derma roller yep and you
go horizontal and vertical and
everything across your scalp particularly from your temple to the crown of your
head and then spray your tonic in and give your head a little massage with the
hair tonic and you're pretty much good to go and you can style as per normal
(02:10):
obviously things like blow Slow drying your hair is going to damage your hair a bit,
but it's life and people do do these things.
But where you can, towel drying is always better. We always say it's best to
wash your hair daily and that's because the DHT will build up daily.
I know. I feel like a lot of women just heard that and were like, what?
That's not what my hairdresser told me. I was told to wash once a week because
(02:33):
we've all been told that.
Yeah, 100%. I hear that all the time and I know myself a million years ago,
it's like all about washing your hair once a week and letting the natural oils
come through and all that kind of stuff.
When it comes to hair loss, it's the exact opposite. You want to be able to
wash really regularly, especially down at the root in your hair.
I know if you have like drier hair, some people are a bit funny about it,
(02:56):
but if you're using a really good shampoo, it shouldn't be drying your hair out anyway.
Yeah. That's actually something I've got sort of to go through is a lot of people
kind of worry that washing their hair regularly, like daily,
is going to cause further damage, but that is actually due to the ingredients
and the products they're using, isn't it?
What kind of ingredients can cause that damage to the hair?
Absolutely. So things like sulfates and parabens and MEAs and all those kinds of things.
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Silicons are one of those ones that coat your hair and make it look lovely and
shiny, but what it's actually doing is suffocating the hair underneath.
So often if you're washing your hair with those kinds of products,
it makes it quite brittle and does dry it out really badly. But if you've got
the right pH levels and a good shampoo, it shouldn't be drying your hair out.
Yeah. I remember when I first started working for Regrow and you guys gave me
(03:43):
some products and I started using them.
I think it was like three washes in. I have really long hair at the time as
well. And I was like, oh, I don't think I like these products.
Like I could not unknot my hair.
And I ended up saying something to you guys. I was like, I don't know what I'm
doing, but like my hair is so knotty from the shampoo.
It is taking me literally half an hour to brush the knots out.
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And you just looked at me and you're like, it's washing the silicon and product
built up off your head. You need to just get three more washes in.
Yeah, yeah. And yeah, I think it was like three or four more washes in and it
was like a completely different playing field. Like my hair was amazing.
But yeah, those initial washes and I thought I was using a product that was
really clean and natural.
So that realization that my hair was like coated in product and silicon probably
(04:27):
because it was, yeah, it was brutal.
It's definitely one of the biggest things we get told. You know,
they've washed their hair a couple of times and it's just really knotty.
And generally that just means someone's been using a product previously that's had silicons in it.
And if you can imagine trying to get varnish off or like sticky tape off a jar
or something like that, it gets really gluggy when you're trying to get it off.
(04:49):
And that's exactly what's happening to your hair.
So you have to really stick it out, get about six washes in.
Yeah, you want to wash daily for that. Yeah, definitely.
And then the silicons come off, our product can actually get to your hair and
make it naturally shiny and beautiful.
So we've just talked about the ingredients that we don't want in the shampoo
and conditioner, But what are the ingredients that we do want in our shampoo and conditioner?
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Okay. Well, you definitely want to have your DHT blockers, which we have,
which will help with your hair loss.
Yep. And then we also want to have protein builders that will build the hair up.
We also use, personally at Regrow, we use a lot of natives that we know leading
the way in hair health and, you know, things like biotin, which builds the hair up.
We're using kakadu plum, which is really high in vitamin C, which helps to build
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the keratin in your hair.
I try as much as possible to jam-pack great ingredients into our products,
but you do want to look out for those ones that, you know, minus the bad ingredients
that do have a lot of high purity ingredients as well.
Because sometimes I'll put the tiniest amount in and say, oh yeah,
we've got rosemary in there and it's such a small amount, it won't do anything.
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So really using the product will always give it away.
Yeah, yeah, of course. That's true, isn't it? Because there are like a lot of,
you know, we've had a look at some products recently that say there's like a
caffeine shampoo or they've got rosemary oil and it's just like a tiny amount.
It's not quite enough, but they do have it in there. They're not lying. That's right.
Yeah. So basically people want to sort of check like not only the ingredients,
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but also like the amount of that ingredient within the formula.
Yeah. And we also use oxygenated rainwater as a base to our products just because
otherwise, you know, the base of your product's just using.
Demineralized tap water basically that's what most why is
that about like what what is wrong with demineralized tap water is like
a base for in shampoo and conditioners so by using demineralized
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tap water it doesn't hold the purity of the ingredients as well our oxygenated
rain water is a better base to carry the ingredients at a higher purity rate
and also the water itself actually has minerals in it how important is scalp
health for healthy hair yeah that's the one that a a lot of people miss out.
The scalp health is probably the most important part because if you have,
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for example, dandruff or psoriasis or things like that, and that dry skin is
covering the follicle, it can't actually grow through.
So it's almost like, you know, you have to get.
The soil ready in the garden before you can start growing your vegetables,
you know, and that's your scalp.
You need to have a really healthy scalp to be able to produce healthy follicles.
Okay. And what about brushing? Because I know like we get a lot of customers
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who say they avoid brushing their hair because they feel like they experience
a lot of hair loss or like hair shedding when they're brushing.
Can you take us through, because I know that you are, you actually advocate
for brushing your hair. You think it's a positive process. Yeah. Yeah.
So while you're brushing your hair, you're again stimulating blood flow.
The hair is only going to fall out if it's about to fall out anyway.
And people do really hyper-focus in on their hair loss when they're losing hair
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and how many hairs they're losing and all that kind of stuff.
It's totally normal to lose 50 to 100 hairs a day.
But the thing is using a really good brush is important.
So try and avoid those real plastic hard ones because they will tear your hair out.
So, and doing the typical thing of long hair brushing from the bottom and working
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your way up and just taking your time on it.
Don't reef the brush through and you're much better off brushing when your hair is dry.
If you do brush your hair when it's wet, you want to use a really wide tooth comb and do it gently.
But yeah, no, it's definitely good for your hair to brush your hair and get
that shine happening and everything.
Okay. And what about like hair care routines for different hair types?
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So if someone's got really oily hair or they've got really dry hair or they've
got curly hair, do they need different routines?
They do. So obviously if you have oilier hair, our conditioner has kind of been
designed with it in mind that you're losing hair.
And so it's quite light on your hair. So if you do have oily hair or things
(08:56):
like that, it won't weigh it down.
By the other side of the the coin though, if you have really curly and coarse
hair, sometimes you might feel like it's not enough.
And so we did bring out our hair mask for part of that reason was to really nourish your hair.
So people particularly with curly hair or dry hair, they can use our hair mask
as a conditioner or just use it a few times a week.
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I personally have naturally quite dry hair because I use Regrow products and
they are the right pH and all that kind of stuff.
I found that it's just not as dry as it used to be just naturally.
It's just so much more nourished normally.
And then I use the hair mask once to twice a week and yeah,
you know, it just, it sorts all of that out. I just don't have dry hair,
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but yeah, curly hair is normally more dry and it does, it does need a little
bit more maintenance with the moisture.
I was talking about hair masks. How often should you use a hair mask?
Like if you've got, if people have one at home, because I know hair masks are
one of those things where you're like, people have usually got a few. Yeah, I know.
Have a cupboard full of them. Like nice scrolling on Instagram.
It's like, well, that one looks good.
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Especially when they're bringing out those single pouches and you end up like
with a thousand in single pouches.
How often should people use a hair mask? Is it, because I know like I really
fine hair, so I couldn't do a regular, I don't do regular hair mask because
I feel like they really weigh my hair down.
But like once every couple of weeks I find is like the sweet spot for me.
But is it different for different hair types or is there like a standard?
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Yeah, I think it's different for different hair types, to be honest.
Like you say your curly hair, your thick hair, your dry hair is going to need
it more regularly than a fine hair.
The other thing to think about as well though if you do have that
more fine hair you don't have to put it all through your hair
you know you can just put it on you know the bottom half
of your hair or yeah things like that so you don't have to
put it all the way through for it to weigh down whereas if you've got curly
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hair you might want to drown your hair in it yeah more regularly
but again the hair mask is another one of
those things that they hide things like silicons and stuff
in so you really need to yeah check that out because
silicons are sneaky because initially they make
your hair feel amazing and so it gives them people that immediate result
where their hair feels shinier and it feels like smoother but in
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time it's actually just like suffocating the hair as you said earlier isn't
it totally suffocating it but you do get that beautiful shine after
you use it and then and then it starts getting a bit crunchy yeah you know so
i've i've found everyone that's used our product because we really jammed all
the best ingredients in ours and people use it and And unless their hair is
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full of silicons already and they're trying to,
you know, get through that stage,
their hair is going to be shinier after they use it.
It's literally why we have on the bottle, the hair is so shiny,
you'll need sunglasses because it just does.
Yeah. And what does make hair shiny? So if people like their hair is a bit dull
or a bit dry looking or a bit kind of like matte looking, what gives hair shine
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and gloss and that kind of, you know, like more vibrancy?
Yeah, it really comes down to the health of the hair. So if your hair is looking
really dry and brittle, it's because it's just not getting enough nutrients.
So whether that comes through the blood flow through to your scalp or if you're
getting enough good products on your hair, it really just comes down to that because essentially,
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if you're using all the right products and doing all the right thing,
your hair should be just naturally shiny. Yeah.
So you shouldn't have to go, my hair's, you know, needing extra of something
because if it's got the right nutrients and the right blood flow, it should just.
Beautiful. Yeah. And what about diet? Like what part does diet play in hair health?
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Yeah, diet does play a massive part in any health in your body.
You'll often find though, if with diet will come out a little bit later.
So like stress and things like that, you've been eating really unhealthy for
six months, you might find, you know, three months later, your hair starts really
looking quite dry and unhealthy and dull.
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Ideally, you want to have a great nutrition, no stress in your life,
no sickness and all those kinds of things.
And you know, you have perfect hair, but you know, everyone will go through
phases where their hair will fall out a bit because, you know,
I know when COVID happened,
a lot of people were getting COVID hair fallout three months after they had
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COVID, you know, and that's just any kind of sickness, a flu, any of those things.
So everyone's going to experience unhealthy hair at some point in their life.
But to go for that optimal, perfect hair, you're really looking at,
you know, good nutrition, taking care of yourself, exercise,
you know, getting the blood flowing, sleep.
I think that's probably really important because it's just one of those things,
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having perfect, healthy hair 100% of the time is just not something that happens for everybody.
We all go through stresses. We all go through moments of maybe not looking after
ourselves as well as we have previously.
It's like really natural to kind of have moments where your hair is a big kind
of like lackluster, isn't it?
Well, think about like postnatal, if we're talking about women, okay. That's brutal.
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It's brutal. You know, you're pregnant and you've got this lush,
most amazing hair, you know, and then all of a sudden you're a tired mum who's
eating, you know, bits of leftover toast and running around after children.
And, you know, you have the hair fall out, postnatal hair fall out anyway.
It's not an easy time to keep your hair looking its best, which is why,
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you know, So during those times, you've got to wash your hair anyway,
so you may as well make sure you're using a really great product. Yeah. That's probably –.
The best you can hope for at that stage yeah yeah
I think it's also just having like those realistic expectations as well
and like trying to use like the base like bring your basic
hair care routine and to be like easy
and simple and like good products yeah yes I
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think so as well you know when you've got a new baby who's got time for hair
masks and yeah things like that you know you yeah good luck if you've got that
perfect sleeping child but otherwise you know like I said using a really good
pH balanced shampoo and conditioner and those kind of things.
And, you know, just trying to take care of yourself a bit where you can and
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haircuts more regularly than every three years.
What is one like haircare habit that you wish people would stop immediately?
Yeah, probably, well, apart from obvious things like using bad products and
stuff, but I really get agitated with people when they like really rip the brush through their hair.
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Especially when it's wet, you know, and you see people and they're brushing
their hair and you're like, oh, you know, because you do, you stretch your hair
follicle when you're doing that.
And it just, that's when you get frizzy ends.
Frizzy ends. Like that. Yeah. Slow down. Take it easy.
Don't act like you hate it, you know, take your time with it.
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And what about hairstyles? Because we talked a little bit about using like heat
styling. Are there any hairstyles, like specific styles, that can cause damage
or worsen hair loss if you are having active hair loss? Absolutely.
So I hate to tell everyone, but dyeing and bleaching your hair is like the worst ever possible.
And generally, you know, we're getting a few greys through by the time we start
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losing our hair as women. And so we do like to cover them up.
Depending on how bad your hair is, you might just want to give it a break for
a while, you know or use really good high quality dyes and things like that
rather than box sets yeah just obvious things like dyeing you know.
If you do things like perms and stuff like that, hair straighteners,
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things like that, they're not the best for your hair either.
I mean, we still want to be able to style our hair and make it look nice,
right? But heatless curls are a really good thing to look at.
Yeah, they're really big at the moment. I think that's such a good trend because,
you know, you and I, obviously, we know like how damaging heat styling is on hair.
So I love seeing like all of these heatless curl hacks, like the ones with the yoga leggings.
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Like, who knows? I know, that's the best.
I've tried that. That's not easy. No, it's not. I think that having that education
around minimizing, because there's nothing inherently wrong with heat styling.
It's just daily heat styling is when you're really going to start taking a toll
on hair health, isn't it? Absolutely.
And I've actually got some of those curlers. I have had a bit of a go out at
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home and they lift your hair as well.
I think that's one of the most important things. If you're losing your hair,
it feels thin and it hangs on on your head.
Whereas if you use those heatless curlers, it gives a bit of bounce to your
hair and it makes your hair look thicker and fuller and, you know,
and you still get it without having to use the heat ones.
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I mean, you know, if you're in a hurry, yeah, and you want to look great that
night, of course you're going to use it, aren't you?
Are there any other like hairstyles or anything that are really damaging for
hair or the follicles, especially if someone's going through active hair loss?
Sure. You don't want to have your hair pulled back tight. So those high ponytails, never a great idea.
They do pull on your hair and cause traction alopecia, along with things like
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dreadlocks, which is also really bad at pulling the hair out.
Things like wearing hats.
If you're wearing a hat like 24-7, that will also damage your hair.
Those kind of hairstyles that are pulling on the follicle.
Keep it loose. Yeah, keep it loose. Keep it loose. Let it be free. That's it.
So you would want to have those, maybe like a loose
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low bun or that kind of thing if you you want to tie your hair back
rather than those really tight ones yeah again
so there's nothing inherently bad about those hairstyles just there are sometimes
hairstyles and an everyday hairstyle yeah exactly okay well thank
you christy for joining us on the podcast today um i love what we went through
today because i know you're so passionate about like really good hair care routines
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and you know you've been a big part of coming up with the formulas and the product
range for regrow because it's
like your personal passion yes i love it so thank you so much Thank you.
I want to give everyone a beautiful crowning glory of hair. Yeah, yeah. Like yours.
All right. Thanks, Crystal. Thanks.
Welcome to episode four of The Truth About Hair, and we've got something really
exciting today. We're joined by Regrow co-founder, Christy Hungerford.
So Christy's here. She's going to take us through what a healthy hair care routine
looks like, what habits should be included in everybody's hair care routine,
and also what habits are contributing to hair loss if you are experiencing active hair loss.
(00:21):
Welcome, Christy. Thank you. Good to be here. So let's just jump right in.
So why is hair hygiene so important for healthy hair growth?
I'm sure you've heard on previous episodes where we talk a lot about DHT and
the buildup of DHT on your hair scalp, in your follicle, sorry.
So cleanliness is all about getting the DHT out of the follicle,
ensuring that the scalp is clean and a really good environment for the hair to grow from.
(00:46):
So you don't want to have dandruff or things like that.
So we need to get the hair hygiene to its best point so that the hair has the best chance to grow.
Okay. And so what should a basic daily hair care routine look like?
What are the essential elements for that?
Yeah. I think it's always important to wash your hair with shampoo twice because
the first wash is just kind of getting through the oils or any product on your
(01:06):
hair and things like that.
And the second one really gets down to the root and condition once.
And you want to leave your conditioner in your hair for one to two minutes.
When you're washing your hair, we have scalp massage brush, which brings the
blood flow and all the nutrients to the root of your hair.
So So I always love to use the scalp massage brush and it's like having a little massage.
(01:29):
Well, you love your luxury. I really do.
And then, you know, if you have a really good wide tooth comb to comb the conditioner
through your hair while it's wet as well, just very gently because your hair
is at its most fragile when it's wet.
And give it a good rinse out and then once you jump out of
the shower towel dry it then you can use your derma roller
(01:49):
two to three times a week for your derma roller yep and you
go horizontal and vertical and
everything across your scalp particularly from your temple to the crown of your
head and then spray your tonic in and give your head a little massage with the
hair tonic and you're pretty much good to go and you can style as per normal
(02:10):
obviously things like blow Slow drying your hair is going to damage your hair a bit,
but it's life and people do do these things.
But where you can, towel drying is always better. We always say it's best to
wash your hair daily and that's because the DHT will build up daily.
I know. I feel like a lot of women just heard that and were like, what?
That's not what my hairdresser told me. I was told to wash once a week because
(02:33):
we've all been told that.
Yeah, 100%. I hear that all the time and I know myself a million years ago,
it's like all about washing your hair once a week and letting the natural oils
come through and all that kind of stuff.
When it comes to hair loss, it's the exact opposite. You want to be able to
wash really regularly, especially down at the root in your hair.
I know if you have like drier hair, some people are a bit funny about it,
(02:56):
but if you're using a really good shampoo, it shouldn't be drying your hair out anyway.
Yeah. That's actually something I've got sort of to go through is a lot of people
kind of worry that washing their hair regularly, like daily,
is going to cause further damage, but that is actually due to the ingredients
and the products they're using, isn't it?
What kind of ingredients can cause that damage to the hair?
Absolutely. So things like sulfates and parabens and MEAs and all those kinds of things.
(03:21):
Silicons are one of those ones that coat your hair and make it look lovely and
shiny, but what it's actually doing is suffocating the hair underneath.
So often if you're washing your hair with those kinds of products,
it makes it quite brittle and does dry it out really badly. But if you've got
the right pH levels and a good shampoo, it shouldn't be drying your hair out.
Yeah. I remember when I first started working for Regrow and you guys gave me
(03:43):
some products and I started using them.
I think it was like three washes in. I have really long hair at the time as
well. And I was like, oh, I don't think I like these products.
Like I could not unknot my hair.
And I ended up saying something to you guys. I was like, I don't know what I'm
doing, but like my hair is so knotty from the shampoo.
It is taking me literally half an hour to brush the knots out.
(04:04):
And you just looked at me and you're like, it's washing the silicon and product
built up off your head. You need to just get three more washes in.
Yeah, yeah. And yeah, I think it was like three or four more washes in and it
was like a completely different playing field. Like my hair was amazing.
But yeah, those initial washes and I thought I was using a product that was
really clean and natural.
So that realization that my hair was like coated in product and silicon probably
(04:27):
because it was, yeah, it was brutal.
It's definitely one of the biggest things we get told. You know,
they've washed their hair a couple of times and it's just really knotty.
And generally that just means someone's been using a product previously that's had silicons in it.
And if you can imagine trying to get varnish off or like sticky tape off a jar
or something like that, it gets really gluggy when you're trying to get it off.
(04:49):
And that's exactly what's happening to your hair.
So you have to really stick it out, get about six washes in.
Yeah, you want to wash daily for that. Yeah, definitely.
And then the silicons come off, our product can actually get to your hair and
make it naturally shiny and beautiful.
So we've just talked about the ingredients that we don't want in the shampoo
and conditioner, But what are the ingredients that we do want in our shampoo and conditioner?
(05:12):
Okay. Well, you definitely want to have your DHT blockers, which we have,
which will help with your hair loss.
Yep. And then we also want to have protein builders that will build the hair up.
We also use, personally at Regrow, we use a lot of natives that we know leading
the way in hair health and, you know, things like biotin, which builds the hair up.
We're using kakadu plum, which is really high in vitamin C, which helps to build
(05:36):
the keratin in your hair.
I try as much as possible to jam-pack great ingredients into our products,
but you do want to look out for those ones that, you know, minus the bad ingredients
that do have a lot of high purity ingredients as well.
Because sometimes I'll put the tiniest amount in and say, oh yeah,
we've got rosemary in there and it's such a small amount, it won't do anything.
(05:57):
So really using the product will always give it away.
Yeah, yeah, of course. That's true, isn't it? Because there are like a lot of,
you know, we've had a look at some products recently that say there's like a
caffeine shampoo or they've got rosemary oil and it's just like a tiny amount.
It's not quite enough, but they do have it in there. They're not lying. That's right.
Yeah. So basically people want to sort of check like not only the ingredients,
(06:19):
but also like the amount of that ingredient within the formula.
Yeah. And we also use oxygenated rainwater as a base to our products just because
otherwise, you know, the base of your product's just using.
Demineralized tap water basically that's what most why is
that about like what what is wrong with demineralized tap water is like
a base for in shampoo and conditioners so by using demineralized
(06:42):
tap water it doesn't hold the purity of the ingredients as well our oxygenated
rain water is a better base to carry the ingredients at a higher purity rate
and also the water itself actually has minerals in it how important is scalp
health for healthy hair yeah that's the one that a a lot of people miss out.
The scalp health is probably the most important part because if you have,
(07:06):
for example, dandruff or psoriasis or things like that, and that dry skin is
covering the follicle, it can't actually grow through.
So it's almost like, you know, you have to get.
The soil ready in the garden before you can start growing your vegetables,
you know, and that's your scalp.
You need to have a really healthy scalp to be able to produce healthy follicles.
Okay. And what about brushing? Because I know like we get a lot of customers
(07:30):
who say they avoid brushing their hair because they feel like they experience
a lot of hair loss or like hair shedding when they're brushing.
Can you take us through, because I know that you are, you actually advocate
for brushing your hair. You think it's a positive process. Yeah. Yeah.
So while you're brushing your hair, you're again stimulating blood flow.
The hair is only going to fall out if it's about to fall out anyway.
And people do really hyper-focus in on their hair loss when they're losing hair
(07:55):
and how many hairs they're losing and all that kind of stuff.
It's totally normal to lose 50 to 100 hairs a day.
But the thing is using a really good brush is important.
So try and avoid those real plastic hard ones because they will tear your hair out.
So, and doing the typical thing of long hair brushing from the bottom and working
(08:15):
your way up and just taking your time on it.
Don't reef the brush through and you're much better off brushing when your hair is dry.
If you do brush your hair when it's wet, you want to use a really wide tooth comb and do it gently.
But yeah, no, it's definitely good for your hair to brush your hair and get
that shine happening and everything.
Okay. And what about like hair care routines for different hair types?
(08:35):
So if someone's got really oily hair or they've got really dry hair or they've
got curly hair, do they need different routines?
They do. So obviously if you have oilier hair, our conditioner has kind of been
designed with it in mind that you're losing hair.
And so it's quite light on your hair. So if you do have oily hair or things
(08:56):
like that, it won't weigh it down.
By the other side of the the coin though, if you have really curly and coarse
hair, sometimes you might feel like it's not enough.
And so we did bring out our hair mask for part of that reason was to really nourish your hair.
So people particularly with curly hair or dry hair, they can use our hair mask
as a conditioner or just use it a few times a week.
(09:19):
I personally have naturally quite dry hair because I use Regrow products and
they are the right pH and all that kind of stuff.
I found that it's just not as dry as it used to be just naturally.
It's just so much more nourished normally.
And then I use the hair mask once to twice a week and yeah,
you know, it just, it sorts all of that out. I just don't have dry hair,
(09:40):
but yeah, curly hair is normally more dry and it does, it does need a little
bit more maintenance with the moisture.
I was talking about hair masks. How often should you use a hair mask?
Like if you've got, if people have one at home, because I know hair masks are
one of those things where you're like, people have usually got a few. Yeah, I know.
Have a cupboard full of them. Like nice scrolling on Instagram.
It's like, well, that one looks good.
(10:00):
Especially when they're bringing out those single pouches and you end up like
with a thousand in single pouches.
How often should people use a hair mask? Is it, because I know like I really
fine hair, so I couldn't do a regular, I don't do regular hair mask because
I feel like they really weigh my hair down.
But like once every couple of weeks I find is like the sweet spot for me.
But is it different for different hair types or is there like a standard?
(10:23):
Yeah, I think it's different for different hair types, to be honest.
Like you say your curly hair, your thick hair, your dry hair is going to need
it more regularly than a fine hair.
The other thing to think about as well though if you do have that
more fine hair you don't have to put it all through your hair
you know you can just put it on you know the bottom half
of your hair or yeah things like that so you don't have to
put it all the way through for it to weigh down whereas if you've got curly
(10:45):
hair you might want to drown your hair in it yeah more regularly
but again the hair mask is another one of
those things that they hide things like silicons and stuff
in so you really need to yeah check that out because
silicons are sneaky because initially they make
your hair feel amazing and so it gives them people that immediate result
where their hair feels shinier and it feels like smoother but in
(11:06):
time it's actually just like suffocating the hair as you said earlier isn't
it totally suffocating it but you do get that beautiful shine after
you use it and then and then it starts getting a bit crunchy yeah you know so
i've i've found everyone that's used our product because we really jammed all
the best ingredients in ours and people use it and And unless their hair is
(11:28):
full of silicons already and they're trying to,
you know, get through that stage,
their hair is going to be shinier after they use it.
It's literally why we have on the bottle, the hair is so shiny,
you'll need sunglasses because it just does.
Yeah. And what does make hair shiny? So if people like their hair is a bit dull
or a bit dry looking or a bit kind of like matte looking, what gives hair shine
(11:49):
and gloss and that kind of, you know, like more vibrancy?
Yeah, it really comes down to the health of the hair. So if your hair is looking
really dry and brittle, it's because it's just not getting enough nutrients.
So whether that comes through the blood flow through to your scalp or if you're
getting enough good products on your hair, it really just comes down to that because essentially,
(12:12):
if you're using all the right products and doing all the right thing,
your hair should be just naturally shiny. Yeah.
So you shouldn't have to go, my hair's, you know, needing extra of something
because if it's got the right nutrients and the right blood flow, it should just.
Beautiful. Yeah. And what about diet? Like what part does diet play in hair health?
(12:33):
Yeah, diet does play a massive part in any health in your body.
You'll often find though, if with diet will come out a little bit later.
So like stress and things like that, you've been eating really unhealthy for
six months, you might find, you know, three months later, your hair starts really
looking quite dry and unhealthy and dull.
(12:54):
Ideally, you want to have a great nutrition, no stress in your life,
no sickness and all those kinds of things.
And you know, you have perfect hair, but you know, everyone will go through
phases where their hair will fall out a bit because, you know,
I know when COVID happened,
a lot of people were getting COVID hair fallout three months after they had
(13:15):
COVID, you know, and that's just any kind of sickness, a flu, any of those things.
So everyone's going to experience unhealthy hair at some point in their life.
But to go for that optimal, perfect hair, you're really looking at,
you know, good nutrition, taking care of yourself, exercise,
you know, getting the blood flowing, sleep.
I think that's probably really important because it's just one of those things,
(13:38):
having perfect, healthy hair 100% of the time is just not something that happens for everybody.
We all go through stresses. We all go through moments of maybe not looking after
ourselves as well as we have previously.
It's like really natural to kind of have moments where your hair is a big kind
of like lackluster, isn't it?
Well, think about like postnatal, if we're talking about women, okay. That's brutal.
(13:58):
It's brutal. You know, you're pregnant and you've got this lush,
most amazing hair, you know, and then all of a sudden you're a tired mum who's
eating, you know, bits of leftover toast and running around after children.
And, you know, you have the hair fall out, postnatal hair fall out anyway.
It's not an easy time to keep your hair looking its best, which is why,
(14:21):
you know, So during those times, you've got to wash your hair anyway,
so you may as well make sure you're using a really great product. Yeah. That's probably –.
The best you can hope for at that stage yeah yeah
I think it's also just having like those realistic expectations as well
and like trying to use like the base like bring your basic
hair care routine and to be like easy
and simple and like good products yeah yes I
(14:44):
think so as well you know when you've got a new baby who's got time for hair
masks and yeah things like that you know you yeah good luck if you've got that
perfect sleeping child but otherwise you know like I said using a really good
pH balanced shampoo and conditioner and those kind of things.
And, you know, just trying to take care of yourself a bit where you can and
(15:06):
haircuts more regularly than every three years.
What is one like haircare habit that you wish people would stop immediately?
Yeah, probably, well, apart from obvious things like using bad products and
stuff, but I really get agitated with people when they like really rip the brush through their hair.
(15:26):
Especially when it's wet, you know, and you see people and they're brushing
their hair and you're like, oh, you know, because you do, you stretch your hair
follicle when you're doing that.
And it just, that's when you get frizzy ends.
Frizzy ends. Like that. Yeah. Slow down. Take it easy.
Don't act like you hate it, you know, take your time with it.
(15:47):
And what about hairstyles? Because we talked a little bit about using like heat
styling. Are there any hairstyles, like specific styles, that can cause damage
or worsen hair loss if you are having active hair loss? Absolutely.
So I hate to tell everyone, but dyeing and bleaching your hair is like the worst ever possible.
And generally, you know, we're getting a few greys through by the time we start
(16:11):
losing our hair as women. And so we do like to cover them up.
Depending on how bad your hair is, you might just want to give it a break for
a while, you know or use really good high quality dyes and things like that
rather than box sets yeah just obvious things like dyeing you know.
If you do things like perms and stuff like that, hair straighteners,
(16:31):
things like that, they're not the best for your hair either.
I mean, we still want to be able to style our hair and make it look nice,
right? But heatless curls are a really good thing to look at.
Yeah, they're really big at the moment. I think that's such a good trend because,
you know, you and I, obviously, we know like how damaging heat styling is on hair.
So I love seeing like all of these heatless curl hacks, like the ones with the yoga leggings.
(16:52):
Like, who knows? I know, that's the best.
I've tried that. That's not easy. No, it's not. I think that having that education
around minimizing, because there's nothing inherently wrong with heat styling.
It's just daily heat styling is when you're really going to start taking a toll
on hair health, isn't it? Absolutely.
And I've actually got some of those curlers. I have had a bit of a go out at
(17:16):
home and they lift your hair as well.
I think that's one of the most important things. If you're losing your hair,
it feels thin and it hangs on on your head.
Whereas if you use those heatless curlers, it gives a bit of bounce to your
hair and it makes your hair look thicker and fuller and, you know,
and you still get it without having to use the heat ones.
(17:37):
I mean, you know, if you're in a hurry, yeah, and you want to look great that
night, of course you're going to use it, aren't you?
Are there any other like hairstyles or anything that are really damaging for
hair or the follicles, especially if someone's going through active hair loss?
Sure. You don't want to have your hair pulled back tight. So those high ponytails, never a great idea.
They do pull on your hair and cause traction alopecia, along with things like
(17:59):
dreadlocks, which is also really bad at pulling the hair out.
Things like wearing hats.
If you're wearing a hat like 24-7, that will also damage your hair.
Those kind of hairstyles that are pulling on the follicle.
Keep it loose. Yeah, keep it loose. Keep it loose. Let it be free. That's it.
So you would want to have those, maybe like a loose
(18:19):
low bun or that kind of thing if you you want to tie your hair back
rather than those really tight ones yeah again
so there's nothing inherently bad about those hairstyles just there are sometimes
hairstyles and an everyday hairstyle yeah exactly okay well thank
you christy for joining us on the podcast today um i love what we went through
today because i know you're so passionate about like really good hair care routines
(18:40):
and you know you've been a big part of coming up with the formulas and the product
range for regrow because it's
like your personal passion yes i love it so thank you so much Thank you.
I want to give everyone a beautiful crowning glory of hair. Yeah, yeah. Like yours.
All right. Thanks, Crystal. Thanks.
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