In this episode, Taylorsville Institute instructors Dr. Kirk Burbidge and Blake Dalton dive into Elder Jeffrey R. Holland’s October 2025 General Conference address, “And Now I See.” They discuss how the works of God are often manifest through simple, even unexpected means, like spit and clay. They also highlight Elder Holland’s touching tribute to faith, and his heartfelt testimony affirming that the Restoration is real and that divine help often comes through ordinary instruments, inviting us to keep trying to live Christ’s gospel “no matter how much spit and clay it takes.”
Review Conference here: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2025/10/41holland?lang=eng
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