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October 7, 2025 26 mins

Episode 40—cheers to the Back 40! To celebrate our 40th episode, we took the show on the road to Back 40 Meadery in North Spokane. The theme fits: forty episodes strong, and we’re reflecting on the little wins that got us here.

We open with Max’s pickleball insight—big wins vs. little wins—and Jamie connects it to real-life communication: sometimes the “win” isn’t proving you’re right, it’s making the experience better for everyone.

Then, on location at Back 40 Meadery, owner Luke Wetzler shares how a late-night hobby became a small-batch business. Luke walks us through must (the fermentable base), melomels (fruit meads), and why his “raw” meads are vegan, gluten-free, and sulfur-free—clean, bright, and fruit-forward. We dip into mead’s ancient history (ambrosia, anyone?), the beer–mead hybrid braggot, and the scrappy ingenuity of launching a tasting room.

Learn More: Ali & Callie Artcast: https://betterpickleball.com/podcast/

Back 40 Meadery: https://instagram.com/back40meadery

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