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July 28, 2025 56 mins

Are you burnt out but don't know why?

Licensed therapist Layne Baker reveals the 3 hidden types of burnout that people face: burnout from neglect, overburdening, and being under-challenged. Learn the difference between your "zone of excellence" (what you're good at) and your "zone of genius" (what energizes you), plus discover what "eustress" means and why it's the good kind of stress you actually want.

In this episode, Denise Love Hewett and therapist Layne Baker break down:

The 3 types of burnout most people don't recognize

Why being excellent at something can actually burn you out

How to identify if you're stuck in your zone of excellence

What eustress vs distress means for your mental health

Practical tools for managing burnout when you can't change your job

Why burnout is actually a signal for personal growth

Layne Baker is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in California specializing in high-functioning anxiety and burnout recovery. With over a decade of experience, she helps ambitious high-achievers break cycles of overperformance and burnout. Her work has been featured in Women's Health, Self, Parents, BuzzFeed, Newsweek, Success, and Thrillist. Layne's approach to burnout goes beyond prevention - she views burnout as a powerful message that fundamental life changes are needed for personal evolution. Her mission is helping high achievers transition to a more centered way of living that taps into inner wisdom rather than external validation. 

You can find Layne at @laynebakertherapy and laynebaker.com

You can follow Denise and this podcast at @deniselovehewett and @toomuchwithdlh

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