September 20, 2024 • 47 mins
In this episode of the UnDateable Me Podcast, Jimmy Lee Lard, The Sock Snob and DaBeamer delve into the often taboo subject of fetishes and kinks, discussing the various preferences people have in the bedroom and how these can impact relationships.
We explore a wide range of fetishes, from bondage and voyeurism to foot fetishes and food play! With a little humor and vulnerability, we share personal boundaries and experiences, while emphasizing the importance of communication and consent in any relationship.
Whether you're curious about trying something new or just want to understand more about different sexual experiences, this episode offers an entertaining and insightful look into the world of fetishes and kinks. Tune in to discover what you might be willing to try and how to keep your relationship spicy and fulfilling.
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Hello and welcome to the Undateable Me podcast.
I am your host, the undateable Jimmy Lillard, the Soxnob.
And this is another episode of our weekly show that deals with the struggles
of relationships and dating.
But it's not just the problems. We are on a journey to find solutions and we
do so in a very entertaining way.
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Because Holly got her titties out today. And we are very vulnerable when we
do this. As you can see, we are very exposed today.
So in today's episode...
Music.
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We was grooving that time. I don't know what's wrong with us sometimes.
So we are talking about fetishes and kinks. Harley, are you kinky? I's kinky.
Stanky kinky. Ooh, not stanky kinky. Not that stanky. Oh, right, right, right.
So, you know, I think a lot of people fetish shame and, you know,
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people look down and like, They do what?
And, you know, everybody sometimes, oh, prudes, turn their noses up. Right.
Turn their noses up at people.
Look, as long as it don't involve cheering and you ain't hurting nobody,
you know, you have two consenting adults, I say go for it.
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Do you. you and when we talk about being undateable do we sometimes limit ourselves
before we ever even try something you know it depends on what we're trying.
Yes just gonna pull out any old thing don't get it twisted now do you remember
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years ago we did an episode of the sock mob where we were talking about fetishes
and how how far would you will you Are you willing to go sexually to please
your partner? I think I remember that. Yeah.
So I said then, and I will say it now, I think that in the bedroom,
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nothing should really be off limits.
Except my list has not changed. I don't know.
I may have opened my list up more, but I will say the same thing I said then.
And somebody, you may have to go back and watch one of those episodes to tell
me if I said something different.
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But I draw the line at piss.
Okay. And shit. Yeah. That's a sewer.
Not a sewer, ho.
That's a damn sewer. They be flying them IG girls over there to home do we lie
and they be getting shit on for that money.
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I've heard, I've heard. Then you buy it. Now, wait a minute now.
For money, that's a whole different book.
How much money? There's some things I would do for money that I just wouldn't do.
Regularly. For free 99, right? You know. So, but again, I draw,
I think that if this is something that's important to the other person,
and this is a relationship.
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Now, I don't have to give in to your fetishes or whatever, and this is just
some one-night-hit-or-quitter type things, right? Yeah.
I don't feel obligated to do that. But if we're in a relationship,
in a committed relationship,
And my partner wants to do A and B.
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All right. Like I said. Now, listen. Another thing. I'm not for the pain.
You think you for the whoop my ass in here, sir? No, ma'am. No,
sir. No, sir. No, sir. Right?
But otherwise, you know, I think that it's safe. Because you want to keep things
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spicy for your partner, right?
And you don't know what you like until you've tried it. You're a liar.
There's some shit I know I ain't going to like. Yeah. Right.
I know I ain't going to like shit. Yeah, I know I ain't going to like shit.
I know I ain't going to like piss.
But I might be up on the other thing. It just depends on what it is.
And I say all this. You talking to somebody who I come with limits already.
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Oh, I thought you were going to say I come already. I was going to say,
what? Oh, my God, Dolly. You find that it don't take you much.
You know, and this is, I guess, another for. For, I told y'all I'm being vulnerable
in these podcast episodes.
You know, we have the terms top, bottom. Well, there's another category that,
because I don't fall into either one of those categories, technically.
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I am what we call a side.
Okay. So I come with some limitations already. A side meaning.
So, so, Jim Ronda zipped up like, oh, okay.
No, go ahead. What were you about to ask? Because I know you're going to ask. So neither one?
What do you mean by neither one? Top or bottom, neither one?
Exactly. You're going to prefer neither one? Right. Non-anal.
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So you just want to get your dicks sucked. Golly, why you got to be so crude with it?
No, because if I was a man, I'd be like, yeah, I'm going to get sucked.
There are other things that can be done.
But, yeah, but I'm just not into, first of all, let me say this.
As I've gotten older, I am open to, I've always been open to it.
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So that's not a thing. But as a preference, I should say that.
So it's not a limitation. It's a preference for me. Right. I prefer non-anal.
And as of today, I've never been on the receiving end. I've never bottomed or whatever.
And I can go the rest of my life without trying it.
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If that's, you know, if we're being real about it. You said what? What'll make you cum?
There's lots of stuff to make you. Listen, man, the wind blow the right way.
You can get that. But anyway, so and I just say that because,
you know, this isn't necessarily an episode about that.
But I say that to say that I may be coming in the door with some perceived limitations,
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but I am willing in a relationship again.
I know fleeting encounter, not, you know, whatever.
I am willing to do things that are outside of my preference.
And I think that is the same case when it comes to fetishes and kinks,
how people should probably be a little bit more open, you know? Yeah.
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Because then the other person felt like super judgmental. But maybe that come
with the longevity of the relationship.
Yeah. Like I said, there are some things that you would do in a relationship
that you're just not going to do with the dude you met at the bar last night
or whatever. Unless you don't give a fuck about that person and you're like,
hey, is you willing to give, what is it, bondages and whips?
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Oh, we don't talk about all of that.
We don't talk about some of the different shit. Let me, so I pulled up a list
of various fetishes that are out there. Oh my God, bitch, that's a lot.
And there were a lot on this list that, and some of them surprised me.
The first one is age play.
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Autonepiophilia. And what it is, is a situation or a combination where maybe
one, like a very common one is a person where one is the adult and another one is the infant.
So they might be dressed in a diaper or something like that.
So there's this adult baby dynamic.
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I'm judging because now I think you're a pedophile. So here's the thing.
So, yes. So it sounds like that. As long as this is with adults,
consenting adults, then I'm good with it. I'm not going to judge on that.
Because I don't think that that's going to automatically make you a pedophile.
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A pedophile, right. Right. But that's just me.
Or I should say that's just how I look at that one.
Now, for each of these, as we do this, I'm going to ask you and I'm going to
ask myself as well, would you do that one?
Okay. So, I'm going to say, I would do it, again, if this is a committed relationship,
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I've verified in other ways that this person, I almost said this,
that this person is not some psycho or whatever.
Is that water or vodka? No, this is vodka. I'm going to take a shot.
Because the things that's in here, I'm scared of what's going to be asked.
So I If more than like You know if This dude's like yeah I want you to put on this Pamper,
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Give me the huggies motherfucker come on let's go And you fucking with them
Fucking with them Right I mean whatever so That's that so yeah I think So I'll
say yes to that one What about you?
And by the way, we're doing this while Jordan, our engineer, is in here listening.
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And Jordan is Holly's husband, by the way. But we talk about nasty stuff.
Yeah, because y'all nasty. I bet y'all nasty. I don't know why I'm feeling y'all
nasty. But anyway, I'm going to leave it alone.
Let y'all be y'all. Because listen. Times get hard. We're going to drop that
OnlyFans for y'all. Yeah.
It's looking real hot. My thing is this. The reason I, it just goes back to
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the reason why I say I'm willing to do everything except where I draw the line. Yeah.
Is because, look, what you want to do is another hoe out here that will.
Absolutely. So why not? You know, so if he wants you to, if he want to tie your
ass up to the ceiling fan and hit it every time you come around,
then, you know, hey, let's just do it. Fuck.
But anyway. Because you have to love that person. You have to actually want
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to be with that person. I think if you really don't like the person,
you can be thrown off. And again, that makes a difference. It does.
Alright so a number one age play Yes or no Jordan says put this diaper on.
And then what do I have to do After I put it on I don't know Maybe he rock you
like a baby I like to be rocked I might do it I'm going to go right to sleep.
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Next one is a classic one Bondage So chain me up Handcuff me all of those types
of things would you do that have you done that i've never done it.
Would i be willing again are we if we
are talking about a person that i trust and
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i'm in a relationship with yes i would okay unless
i've recently made them mad because what's not
for to do you're about to trick me
out these streets so um so if
that is the case yes now some stranger we just
met no you're not about to dom or me right bet
you that so but bondage yeah i'll say
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yes to again if this is somebody i'm in
a committed relationship with so what say you holly
yeah we've done that oh damn i just wanted
to yes or no she just yeah he
had chained me up last night you said
what them
offers to cuffs i'm not i'm not
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gonna expound on that any further but you what it's
just like a comfortability because okay bitch
i can only have my leg behind my head for so long after that
let my shit down because i'm out of breath yes yes i look right right i can't
breathe though oh this next one is just i mean oh wait i'm sorry i shouldn't
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say that i'm not gonna call in i'm not gonna judge any of these things so the
next one is a breeding kink.
And with the breeding kink, this is a person that is into ejaculation, having cum,
whether it's semen or some sort of homemade cum recipe or things that look like
cum inside of them and dirty talk about pregnancy.
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I don't know. Maybe I just read it and it just sounded nastier than it did.
I'd be saying shit like that.
He's like oh yeah don't take that out come at me daddy oh my god that's what he'd be saying,
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so so i'm gonna go ahead and say it's a yes for you on that one but what's the
other thing like they making stuff like yeah i don't know what a cum recipe
is unless it contains cum What else is added with that?
Oh. No, now you're going too far. Putting it on food? No, I'm okay. Okay. Sorry.
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I'll go with a yes on that. It's your fantasy. You know, whatever.
Yeah. The next, ooh, this is interesting with your husband here.
Cuckolding and voyeurism. So cuckolding is when, like, maybe you have a partner
who will watch while somebody else is with you or something like that.
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I'm a jealous hoe. You're a jealous hoe. Ain't no bitch up in Denver.
So this question could come two different ways.
So it could be you watching him or it could be Jordan watching you and somebody else.
And then I'll tell you a step further because I may or may not have watched
some of these videos before and I find them so interesting. But go ahead.
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No, I don't think I'd be down. You would not be down in either variety. Okay.
So, for one thing, this speaks to something else because obviously this means
that there's another person involved.
For that, that is not my preference. Friends, there would have to be a need for that.
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But I will say this, because I understand my limitations as discussed before,
being a side and not a top or a bottom.
I've always said that I would one day be willing to try it if the relationship
I was in demanded that, right?
Or required that. So maybe I end up in a relationship and this person is a strict.
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Top and I need to he he wants to satisfy that urge that he has a natural urge
in the gay community. Right.
That apparently my unnatural ass doesn't have. So if that is the case.
I probably would, I will say this, if I tried it and found out that I didn't
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like it, because first of all, my thing is it looked like it hurt.
So I have never ventured so far as to try it.
But if I did and didn't like it, then I think that would be on the table as far as me.
Now, I ain't got to necessarily sit here and watch y'all, even though that might be interesting.
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It but right because do you because you
watching it yeah and and also i've seen
when i was saying i've seen some of these videos before in
some of those they are participating like
i've seen like the dude and i don't want to get too graphic but dude and the
lady are going together and then the The partner that is the observer could
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do stuff like hold the other dude's balls or help him put it in and all kind
of weird stuff. So it can take.
I shouldn't say weird. Again, I'm trying not to be judgmental.
Because it's uncomfortable.
It's like, okay, what are you here for? Right. Because they could have done that on their own.
Right. And I think that's why I don't incorporate.
I can't be in a threesome because I'm just going to be there like what we do now. Right.
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Next on the list is electrostimulation. So using some sort of toys or devices
that, you know, basically issue like a mild shock or something like that. Oh, a shock?
Yeah. Oh, I thought you smelled like the rose. I love that. But I don't know
about a shock. Does the rose shock you? No.
That's why I was throwing it on. Oh, okay. Gotcha. I got excited,
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but then I got scared when you said shock.
So, yeah. So something that gives you a little shock and that turns them on,
I guess. So that's a no for you. How hard is it?
Well, I'll even say mild, since it says mild shock here.
I'm sure if your ass sitting there getting a toe up like you're in an electric chair.
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So, yeah, I couldn't do the could you do the shock?
I'm not into pain like that. So if it's mild, I remember I used to have this
pen that was shocking. Jordan, did you?
No, no. God, I'm thinking about somebody else.
I know who it was. But anyway, we used to have this. I used I bought this pen
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at some like prank store or something.
Right. And when you press the top, it'll shock you.
I did that shit one time. I was like, oh, no, we're not doing this no more.
And then it's such a sensitive area. Oh, no. Yeah, so I don't know.
Because what would you shock the man then on his penis? Like the head of it?
Well, I've seen that too. So, yeah, I guess it could be. It could be nipples. It could be anything.
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My nipples are sensitive. I don't know about that. Yeah, so for me,
again, if it – Now, let me say this. Now, if it's the other way around, he want me to shock him.
Oh, I'll shock the shit out your ass. Your ass will be in here, god damn it. Like a dog.
I will run your electric bill up.
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Right? But me, I would be less open to it unless this is very important for them.
And even then, we ain't doing this shit every night or nothing close to it.
This some this your birthday present all right but
and then how do you come out and tell somebody just like
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that i like my genital oh like that you want it i'm sure
listen that's why they have different communities where you can connect with
other people who like the things that you like who are into the things that
you were into yeah so and i i think there is a big kink community out there
and maybe people just don't know about it. Exhibitionism.
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So you are in situations where...
You are doing public displays, maybe sex in public where people can actually
see you or maybe flashing body parts where people can see you that those types of things.
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We fucked in public before. I don't know. What is that called?
Exhibitionism. So we's exhibitionaries over here. Exhibitionists. Exhibitionists.
I mean, hey. Not that you intentionally want people to see you.
Well, I think that is part of what this is.
And also, there is a little bit of, you know, you like a little spontaneity in your life, right?
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And like, okay, you know what?
Ain't nobody out here, you know, or something. How can you fucking in the car
and be like, hold on, is that a light?
You know, until I unbig this back, I can't be doing shit like doing sex in cars.
I mean, I have a nice-sized car, but I don't know if that's comfortable for me.
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So, now, nothing. I ain't going to say what I was about to say.
I was about to say, now I'll give you a little knuckle job as we on a little
road trip somewhere. A little blow job.
All right. You drive. Like, that's the trade-off. If you drive,
I'm going to give you this knuckle job or whatever, you know.
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Food play. Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry, so that was a yes for you because you definitely
a yes if you've done it. Yeah, I would say that's okay.
That is all right. Like I said, it's just that risque thing or whatever.
It might help with the whole energy. Yeah, because you're not intentionally going out there to fuck.
Some people are. Yeah, I wouldn't do that. Okay.
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What if I don't look good on that angle or something? If somebody catch me?
Now I'm like in the worst angle possible on somebody's social media. Like, no.
Now, we talked about this in one of our episodes because I came across a guy
who wanted this food play.
Now, that comes in different varieties. It could just be eating,
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smearing food on you, stuff like that.
Remember, I told you that this was the dude that wanted to feed me,
wanted to rub my belly and all kinds of stuff like that.
So food play. Now, on the surface, it sounds good.
My allergies are kicking my butt right now. On the surface, it sounds good.
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Because who don't like food? I like a little fried chicken.
Yeah. So you're saying that we can have fried chicken and a little bedroom activity?
I can bring the chicken to the bed?
Yeah. I'm down. Let's do that.
Why can't we do that? But when it comes down to this whole objectifying me and,
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you know, you this fat fucker, I've come across and I'm going to feed you.
I'm going to get you fat because there's some people who want to stuff you and
or they want you to feel bloated and all. I don't know.
So I guess for some, I guess yes with limitations for me. So I would do it.
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But again, we're not going to make this no thing. I already eat in my bed. I live alone.
So I'm sometimes watching TV, eating Chinese food.
So, you know, it ain't far fetched to add another person in there too.
I don't think my man turned on by me eating. Cause I eat like a man.
I'd be an animal for a life. Oh my, oh my.
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That's funny. I don't think nobody
be turned on by my shit. I eat like a lady. Like a lady. Like a lady.
No, I don't. foot and hand fetishes. So obviously there are a lot of people
who have foot fetishes and hand fetishes.
Now, one thing I used to always do because I didn't want to alienate the folks out in the world.
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And I wanted to make sure that I kept my dating pool as open as possible when
you consider my other limitations, right?
Or other roadblocks.
So I wanted to make Make sure I always kept these hands and feet together. I'm in that nail shop.
Every seven days. Oh, wait. Say it again. I'm in that nail shop every seven days.
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Just in case. Because he might like it more better. No, I'm just playing. So anyway.
But listen. And then also, until, like, I burned my hands.
Both hands the other, not long ago. But nonetheless, you know,
I've always had my long piano playing hands, right?
But that's sexy. because especially for a
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girl like if you're gonna figure me make sure your hands are clean yeah and
also too i've never done really long
nails right so i always keep them
really short because i think that could hurt somebody too
now mind you listen ain't nobody jam no
damn fingers and stuff in me but i'm just
picturing what i think would be
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the case so i don't want to injure you yeah having
sex and now you bleeding to death or some shit i don't know
but anyway thinking about it like oh that's uncomfortable right
scrape me but otherwise i've always tried
to keep my hands and feet together just in general by
the way i was joking about doing it for that reason but just in
general but hey because you know if you don't like it
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my fuck might suck your toes because they don't like you'd be
like i love that another thing i always
said i didn't like feet and booty holes i am the worst gay
person ever oh my god feet and booty holes
right did you have a bad experience with feet i just
never liked other people's feet like what if why do i
want your feet touching me oh wait so when you cuddle in bed you come don't
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put your feet on your feet i i i have to take a deep breath and go okay here
they go whatever you know oh my now and and again if we're in a relationship
with a person and I know they're hot, I listen, I.
Another hang-up for me. We can't be in a relationship and you have bad hygiene, right?
So this is a person who I know is clean and all of that. Yes.
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But you're not about to bring your ass in here after running track and then
rub your sweaty feet on my leg or something. No. I like my man a little dirty sometimes.
And, you know, there are some people with the whole foot fetish thing that like
the feet smell or whatever, like the stinky feet smell.
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Just like some of them sniff armpits And they want you to be a little musty,
Listen, that's Unfortunately, that's one I can't fulfill I can't get musty I can't get musty.
I'm at an age And stage in my life where I ain't doing shit to get musty Right? What did you say?
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I don't go to the gym I don't even cut my grass No more, I got a service Bitch,
I don't get musty So, I just may not be able to fulfill that.
And I'm not about to get funky for you, but I don't know.
I wonder at what point in their life did they realize that they just smell somebody
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musty. I know somebody with a smell fetish.
And they said they started, huh?
Do they get turned on because it smells good or because it smells a certain
way? They just, yeah. Really?
Oh my God, I can't do this because I know this person is going to watch.
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So I'll just say I know somebody with a smell fetish. If I start saying what they do.
They smell the seat when you get up.
I'm not going to say no to that. I didn't do that to me.
He was trying to make sure that cat was right. So.
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So, for the foot and hand fetish, we got that one.
The next one is gagging. Oh, I'm sorry. Was that a yes for you with the foot
fetish and all of that? Because, yeah, you want your toes sucked. Come on, P.B.
Gagging is the next one. I just want to see what that is. Like throwing up on
a dick or like something in your mouth gagging?
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I'm trying to find out, but I had to get quiet a minute when you,
because I don't know for sure that they were talking about fellatio when they
said. So I'm reading it here now.
And it's a vehicle for increasing the helplessness of a submissive person by
making them drool, unable to speak, and humiliated.
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So this is part of that bondage, BDSM-type situation.
So I don't think this is one. Who knows? Maybe the one during fellatio is a
different category, But I think this is the ball in the mouth,
almost choking you into to you ready to gag or something like that is what I got from it.
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I like a little choke, but don't.
Once again, committed relationship because you choke me. I'm not.
I'm probably going to slap you.
I'm sorry. So, again, committed relationship.
I trust you because you get to going too far.
I'm probably gonna Okay yeah so The hood gonna come out It's gonna be like Wait
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a Hood ain't never left Wait a damn minute Hood ain't but a half inch Below
the surface on me so Alright I'm gonna skip that one I don't even know what
it is Doesn't look interesting Oh there's a mirror fetish A fascination with mirrors.
Lactophilia People who either If it's what I'm thinking I'm like fucking in
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front of a mirror I think this is beyond that That's normal Oh okay I know nothing
I mean, I shouldn't say normal. That's just vanilla.
But I think it's beyond that. Okay.
Lactophiles, people who either want to watch a woman who's lactating or consume her breast milk.
They tell me that, and I'm going to look at your husband in there and see how,
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I'm going to observe his facial expressions as we talk about this.
Okay. They tell me that when a man is dating a woman and they've had a baby,
like, one of the one things they always try to do is drink a little titty milk afterwards.
And here go these titties again. These titties making their appearance today.
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Yeah. He has tasted the titty milk. I think that's normal.
I think... You've tasted it. I think...
First of all, to me, so in my head, you know, I'm thinking about animal milk,
you know, and whole milk, there's a little sweetness to it, right? Yeah.
But cows eat grass all day. Your ass out here eating.
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Italian beef dip, chicken pot, peppers, mild sauce on the fries.
You eating them six wings with mild sauce.
You eating greens with vinegar and shit in it or whatever.
I don't know what your breast milk going to taste like. And I would imagine
it's going to change from day to day.
But who knows? I don't know. It's just like, close your ears, Jordan.
It's just like tasting semen.
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Because, you know, hey, depending on the person you with, what they ate and all of that. Yes, right?
I don't know. I tasted my breast milk, though. How was it?
It was like, it didn't taste like, you can really, it does taste organic.
It doesn't taste like the milk that you buy in the store. Because you're right.
The milk that you buy in the store is sweet. Well, I hope you're not buying.
Human breast milk in the store.
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They got farms of women just getting milked. Shit.
Well, yeah. So, it's a no from me because I don't have sex with women,
so that wouldn't even be a thing.
And if my gay partner came up with this idea, I would have some questions about his ass.
Right? And by the way, maybe he's bi. I don't know.
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Who knows? What else What else we got here? Latex and nylon fetishes.
So you see those people in the latex suits or whatever, almost like this damn
cat suit you got on over here. But it's not latex. What's nylon?
Nylon is like the same fabric that biker shorts or pantyhose and stuff like
that. I probably got some stuff like that, but I just can't remember. Nylon.
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Gotcha. Oh, no, this is a no for me.
Wait, let me see. Let me read it, because it's called pet play.
And if it involves an animal, I'm out. Let's see.
Your face was so fucking serious. If it involves an animal, I'm out.
Pet play is a form of sexual role play, where an individual is aroused by the
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idea of taking on the appearance or mannerisms of a non-human animal,
such as a dog or cat or something. Would you be down for that?
That's right. Why not?
What else? What else?
Pregnancy. Oh, people that are aroused by pregnant people. I clearly am not at all.
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We talked about bondage. So part of that BDSM world is the S sadism.
And that is. Is that what that stands for? Yes. So bondage to sadism.
What's the T for it? No, there's no T.
BDSM oh so D what the D is D bondage no B D SM so sadomasochism or whatever but the D is what B,
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bondage i don't know we'll probably
maybe we'll come across it here but the sadism part
is people who want to cause
pain and i've known somebody like that too that
tried to holler at me and i was like yeah we're not we're not i say you in the
what though who knows who doing the pain right so you say right exactly no and
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they were the one who likes to cause the pain oh no so that was one One of those
where I stepped back and I was like, yeah, no, we're not doing that. Yeah.
We're not doing that. I have my limits. Jordan, what did you,
did you, oh, discipline. Okay.
Or dominant. Dominant. That's actually what I was thinking about. Yeah.
So, yeah, the causing me pain part.
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I'll whoop your ass. That's bottom line. We're not doing that.
Every fetish person is like, goddamn.
No, they didn't want me. They don't want this. I will K-Town whoop your whole ass.
West side of Chicago will come right out.
Sensory deprivation. Oh, okay. When you're doing something to take away somebody's sight,
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like blindfolding or hearing or ability to move, all of those types of things.
Would you be down for that?
If I ain't got my wig on, then yeah.
I don't want you to see me, bitch I want you to smell me, though,
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Yes, and also, what if it's, you know, around Because that can go either way, right?
So you could be the person that's being deprived Or you could be the person
that's depriving So, yeah,
I'm okay with that, again Somebody I trust and know and all of that Then,
yes, I could You could do it deal with that. Mm-hmm.
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So somnophilia, somnophilia is being aroused by someone who is or is giving
the appearance of sleeping.
Jordan never woke you up? He like, what just went in me or something? Yes. Okay.
Oh, I didn't mean to ask that question. I should have said that.
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Yeah. You know, when you're tired, you're like, oh, my God, I got to suck Nick.
Or like I'm just going here and get this shit over with but you know when you
into it it's different when you into it but like if I'm sleepy I got if I have
to work in the morning bitch stop playing with me I got to work in the morning,
yeah yeah but if it's any other time then okay this is more this isn't just,
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they get off on you right this is somebody who now.
And I don't know if there's if it's listed in here but there's one like the
necrophilia where somebody has that Dead.
Yeah, so they want you to either play dead or whatever.
And if I'm being honest, I think that that's what either this somnophilia or
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necrophilia is what Bill Cosby sort of suffered from.
I think that those people that do that drugging people type thing,
that is sort of the vibe that they are going for.
That's what I think. Now, listen, I don't know, for legal purposes,
because Bill Cosby got a lot more money than I got, this is not me suggesting
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that Bill Cosby is guilty of any crimes.
Allegedly. So what he was accused of or allegedly has done or whatever,
and it's not even about Bill Cosby, just anybody who does that, that drugging thing.
I, in my opinion, I think that's kind of what they're going for.
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But, you know, whatever.
So, you down for the doing the fake sleeping? I'm with that. That don't bother me.
Listen, we can play all kind of games. We can play cops and robbers.
I can be cleaning and then you come in and surprise me and take advantage or
whatever, you know. I can pray like I'm in the bed, sleep, and you can come and whatever.
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I'm good with that. That doesn't bother me. This is going to work regardless.
Whether I'm asleep, up, it's going to be good. So go ahead, do your thing,
whether I'm asleep or not.
What? I wasn't expecting that response.
Is the coochie going to work regardless? It's going to work regardless.
So just go ahead. You act like it's a vending machine. hey you got enough money
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you got enough money you can go ahead and get it alright so let me just do a
couple more just to wrap this up.
Temperature play i never heard of
that so so they said it
can be anything from mild to extreme where i
don't know if you are it can
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be anything from like you know putting ice cubes in your mouth and then during
oral sex or stuff like that oh yeah or it could be you know they like the room
really hot i knew somebody else like this too really and i'm glad we never did
this because Because I don't like heat like that. I don't like to be sweating. Right.
So you wanted it that hot. You wanted to turn the heat up, like in the summer, and go for it.
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Not me. You ain't finna have me sweating out my weave. No. And I ain't got no weave.
So, yeah. So, virginity fetish.
Who? A virginity fetish. When you virginal like me.
Like us throw me in there like okay listen the way i look at it every seven years,
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god will renew your vagina or your pussy
so if you don't like anything
that happened and you can wait seven years you are cleansed that's not me saying
i didn't wait it's seven years for nothing by the way but ladies if it's been
more than seven years since the person you never wanted If you wanted to do
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anything with, and you did, it's erased.
God took it away. With that girl, Drea, say, I think your wholeness can be erased, right? Yeah. Shit.
Zoophilia. Someone who derives sexual arousal from animals. Nope.
Nope. If I hear shit quacking and roaring in my bedroom, we got a problem.
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So I'll stop there. That's enough.
I think that...
I'll still stand by what I said before, with the exception of the things that I said no to.
So I think I'm going to add to my list.
So to urine and feces, I am going to add to my list of things I am not willing to do.
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No animals? Extensive pain and animals.
Yeah. And, of course, anything that, well, it's not a kink. So anything that
involves a child or something like that's just illegal and you need your ass whooped.
But, yeah, so I'll add those things to my list.
What about you? Has anything changed since we started this conversation?
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No. I might get peed on. Like, he has to, like, really be into that.
But let me tell you something. I'm not cleaning that shit up.
But, you know, we've peed on each other, like, in the shower or something like that.
Like, that's different. I'm so glad you would have had a seat.
Yes. That's right. Like, yeah, I peed on him in the shower, but it's different
because it's the shower. Oh, yes. Not in my bed.
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I was just about to say, the only thing, now, I would do that in a shower setting only. Yeah.
Because you know how much this mattress costs? You know, because,
yeah, that mattress is so good. You're so silly. So, yeah.
And also, I don't care where we at. You ain't shitting on me. At all.
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I'm sorry. Sorry, you shit on me and I'm punching you wherever it came out of.
I'm going to shit on your mama hoe. Don't you shit on me.
Don't. So, but yeah, a shower situation I could do with pee.
And I think it's just because you want to try it. And I have a friend who even
said about the feces thing.
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He was like, why are you tripping about something that can wash off?
Bitch, I don't want to. Because you always got one up on me.
Like, yeah, that's why I shit on you.
Okay. You would never be able to go out in these streets and say you shit it on Jimmy.
I'm going to tell you right now. If you ever hear somebody telling you that
they shit it on me. They a motherfucker. They a lie.
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They a motherfucker. A damn lie. Nope. Because then you need to ask them how
they got punched in the back of their neck.
Because if they can if they can confess that first part then confess how they
got punched in the back of their damn neck tell the whole story right tell the whole story.
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All right y'all you know what thank you so much for watching so today we talked
about fetishes and kink and all the things that we are willing to do and let
me say this a healthy sexual Sexual relationship is very,
you know, sex is a very important part of a relationship, right?
And maybe it's not, it's definitely not fair to judge things that you haven't
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experienced or don't know anything about.
So maybe if somebody is presenting something to you, I say do your research.
And if it is something that you are willing to do, then do it.
Adding a little spice to your relationship has never hurt anybody.
OK, but I will tell you that old vanilla missionary every time two pumps you
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out, that shit will have, you know, somebody running to somebody else.
So who knows that little kinky thing that they're asking you to do might be
the thing that, you know, keeps your relationship going. So, yeah.
So, again, don't forget to subscribe to our weekly podcast.
We are always happy to have you. We want to thank Holly once again for joining
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us and then we will see you on the very next episode.
Music.
Hello and welcome to the Undateable Me podcast.
I am your host, the undateable Jimmy Lillard, the Soxnob.
And this is another episode of our weekly show that deals with the struggles
of relationships and dating.
But it's not just the problems. We are on a journey to find solutions and we
do so in a very entertaining way.
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Because Holly got her titties out today. And we are very vulnerable when we
do this. As you can see, we are very exposed today.
So in today's episode...
Music.
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We was grooving that time. I don't know what's wrong with us sometimes.
So we are talking about fetishes and kinks. Harley, are you kinky? I's kinky.
Stanky kinky. Ooh, not stanky kinky. Not that stanky. Oh, right, right, right.
So, you know, I think a lot of people fetish shame and, you know,
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people look down and like, They do what?
And, you know, everybody sometimes, oh, prudes, turn their noses up. Right.
Turn their noses up at people.
Look, as long as it don't involve cheering and you ain't hurting nobody,
you know, you have two consenting adults, I say go for it.
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Do you. you and when we talk about being undateable do we sometimes limit ourselves
before we ever even try something you know it depends on what we're trying.
Yes just gonna pull out any old thing don't get it twisted now do you remember
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years ago we did an episode of the sock mob where we were talking about fetishes
and how how far would you will you Are you willing to go sexually to please
your partner? I think I remember that. Yeah.
So I said then, and I will say it now, I think that in the bedroom,
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nothing should really be off limits.
Except my list has not changed. I don't know.
I may have opened my list up more, but I will say the same thing I said then.
And somebody, you may have to go back and watch one of those episodes to tell
me if I said something different.
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But I draw the line at piss.
Okay. And shit. Yeah. That's a sewer.
Not a sewer, ho.
That's a damn sewer. They be flying them IG girls over there to home do we lie
and they be getting shit on for that money.
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I've heard, I've heard. Then you buy it. Now, wait a minute now.
For money, that's a whole different book.
How much money? There's some things I would do for money that I just wouldn't do.
Regularly. For free 99, right? You know. So, but again, I draw,
I think that if this is something that's important to the other person,
and this is a relationship.
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Now, I don't have to give in to your fetishes or whatever, and this is just
some one-night-hit-or-quitter type things, right? Yeah.
I don't feel obligated to do that. But if we're in a relationship,
in a committed relationship,
And my partner wants to do A and B.
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All right. Like I said. Now, listen. Another thing. I'm not for the pain.
You think you for the whoop my ass in here, sir? No, ma'am. No,
sir. No, sir. No, sir. Right?
But otherwise, you know, I think that it's safe. Because you want to keep things
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spicy for your partner, right?
And you don't know what you like until you've tried it. You're a liar.
There's some shit I know I ain't going to like. Yeah. Right.
I know I ain't going to like shit. Yeah, I know I ain't going to like shit.
I know I ain't going to like piss.
But I might be up on the other thing. It just depends on what it is.
And I say all this. You talking to somebody who I come with limits already.
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Oh, I thought you were going to say I come already. I was going to say,
what? Oh, my God, Dolly. You find that it don't take you much.
You know, and this is, I guess, another for. For, I told y'all I'm being vulnerable
in these podcast episodes.
You know, we have the terms top, bottom. Well, there's another category that,
because I don't fall into either one of those categories, technically.
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I am what we call a side.
Okay. So I come with some limitations already. A side meaning.
So, so, Jim Ronda zipped up like, oh, okay.
No, go ahead. What were you about to ask? Because I know you're going to ask. So neither one?
What do you mean by neither one? Top or bottom, neither one?
Exactly. You're going to prefer neither one? Right. Non-anal.
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So you just want to get your dicks sucked. Golly, why you got to be so crude with it?
No, because if I was a man, I'd be like, yeah, I'm going to get sucked.
There are other things that can be done.
But, yeah, but I'm just not into, first of all, let me say this.
As I've gotten older, I am open to, I've always been open to it.
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So that's not a thing. But as a preference, I should say that.
So it's not a limitation. It's a preference for me. Right. I prefer non-anal.
And as of today, I've never been on the receiving end. I've never bottomed or whatever.
And I can go the rest of my life without trying it.
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If that's, you know, if we're being real about it. You said what? What'll make you cum?
There's lots of stuff to make you. Listen, man, the wind blow the right way.
You can get that. But anyway, so and I just say that because,
you know, this isn't necessarily an episode about that.
But I say that to say that I may be coming in the door with some perceived limitations,
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but I am willing in a relationship again.
I know fleeting encounter, not, you know, whatever.
I am willing to do things that are outside of my preference.
And I think that is the same case when it comes to fetishes and kinks,
how people should probably be a little bit more open, you know? Yeah.
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Because then the other person felt like super judgmental. But maybe that come
with the longevity of the relationship.
Yeah. Like I said, there are some things that you would do in a relationship
that you're just not going to do with the dude you met at the bar last night
or whatever. Unless you don't give a fuck about that person and you're like,
hey, is you willing to give, what is it, bondages and whips?
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Oh, we don't talk about all of that.
We don't talk about some of the different shit. Let me, so I pulled up a list
of various fetishes that are out there. Oh my God, bitch, that's a lot.
And there were a lot on this list that, and some of them surprised me.
The first one is age play.
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Autonepiophilia. And what it is, is a situation or a combination where maybe
one, like a very common one is a person where one is the adult and another one is the infant.
So they might be dressed in a diaper or something like that.
So there's this adult baby dynamic.
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I'm judging because now I think you're a pedophile. So here's the thing.
So, yes. So it sounds like that. As long as this is with adults,
consenting adults, then I'm good with it. I'm not going to judge on that.
Because I don't think that that's going to automatically make you a pedophile.
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A pedophile, right. Right. But that's just me.
Or I should say that's just how I look at that one.
Now, for each of these, as we do this, I'm going to ask you and I'm going to
ask myself as well, would you do that one?
Okay. So, I'm going to say, I would do it, again, if this is a committed relationship,
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I've verified in other ways that this person, I almost said this,
that this person is not some psycho or whatever.
Is that water or vodka? No, this is vodka. I'm going to take a shot.
Because the things that's in here, I'm scared of what's going to be asked.
So I If more than like You know if This dude's like yeah I want you to put on this Pamper,
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Give me the huggies motherfucker come on let's go And you fucking with them
Fucking with them Right I mean whatever so That's that so yeah I think So I'll
say yes to that one What about you?
And by the way, we're doing this while Jordan, our engineer, is in here listening.
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And Jordan is Holly's husband, by the way. But we talk about nasty stuff.
Yeah, because y'all nasty. I bet y'all nasty. I don't know why I'm feeling y'all
nasty. But anyway, I'm going to leave it alone.
Let y'all be y'all. Because listen. Times get hard. We're going to drop that
OnlyFans for y'all. Yeah.
It's looking real hot. My thing is this. The reason I, it just goes back to
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the reason why I say I'm willing to do everything except where I draw the line. Yeah.
Is because, look, what you want to do is another hoe out here that will.
Absolutely. So why not? You know, so if he wants you to, if he want to tie your
ass up to the ceiling fan and hit it every time you come around,
then, you know, hey, let's just do it. Fuck.
But anyway. Because you have to love that person. You have to actually want
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to be with that person. I think if you really don't like the person,
you can be thrown off. And again, that makes a difference. It does.
Alright so a number one age play Yes or no Jordan says put this diaper on.
And then what do I have to do After I put it on I don't know Maybe he rock you
like a baby I like to be rocked I might do it I'm going to go right to sleep.
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Next one is a classic one Bondage So chain me up Handcuff me all of those types
of things would you do that have you done that i've never done it.
Would i be willing again are we if we
are talking about a person that i trust and
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i'm in a relationship with yes i would okay unless
i've recently made them mad because what's not
for to do you're about to trick me
out these streets so um so if
that is the case yes now some stranger we just
met no you're not about to dom or me right bet
you that so but bondage yeah i'll say
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yes to again if this is somebody i'm in
a committed relationship with so what say you holly
yeah we've done that oh damn i just wanted
to yes or no she just yeah he
had chained me up last night you said
what them
offers to cuffs i'm not i'm not
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gonna expound on that any further but you what it's
just like a comfortability because okay bitch
i can only have my leg behind my head for so long after that
let my shit down because i'm out of breath yes yes i look right right i can't
breathe though oh this next one is just i mean oh wait i'm sorry i shouldn't
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say that i'm not gonna call in i'm not gonna judge any of these things so the
next one is a breeding kink.
And with the breeding kink, this is a person that is into ejaculation, having cum,
whether it's semen or some sort of homemade cum recipe or things that look like
cum inside of them and dirty talk about pregnancy.
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I don't know. Maybe I just read it and it just sounded nastier than it did.
I'd be saying shit like that.
He's like oh yeah don't take that out come at me daddy oh my god that's what he'd be saying,
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so so i'm gonna go ahead and say it's a yes for you on that one but what's the
other thing like they making stuff like yeah i don't know what a cum recipe
is unless it contains cum What else is added with that?
Oh. No, now you're going too far. Putting it on food? No, I'm okay. Okay. Sorry.
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I'll go with a yes on that. It's your fantasy. You know, whatever.
Yeah. The next, ooh, this is interesting with your husband here.
Cuckolding and voyeurism. So cuckolding is when, like, maybe you have a partner
who will watch while somebody else is with you or something like that.
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I'm a jealous hoe. You're a jealous hoe. Ain't no bitch up in Denver.
So this question could come two different ways.
So it could be you watching him or it could be Jordan watching you and somebody else.
And then I'll tell you a step further because I may or may not have watched
some of these videos before and I find them so interesting. But go ahead.
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No, I don't think I'd be down. You would not be down in either variety. Okay.
So, for one thing, this speaks to something else because obviously this means
that there's another person involved.
For that, that is not my preference. Friends, there would have to be a need for that.
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But I will say this, because I understand my limitations as discussed before,
being a side and not a top or a bottom.
I've always said that I would one day be willing to try it if the relationship
I was in demanded that, right?
Or required that. So maybe I end up in a relationship and this person is a strict.
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Top and I need to he he wants to satisfy that urge that he has a natural urge
in the gay community. Right.
That apparently my unnatural ass doesn't have. So if that is the case.
I probably would, I will say this, if I tried it and found out that I didn't
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like it, because first of all, my thing is it looked like it hurt.
So I have never ventured so far as to try it.
But if I did and didn't like it, then I think that would be on the table as far as me.
Now, I ain't got to necessarily sit here and watch y'all, even though that might be interesting.
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It but right because do you because you
watching it yeah and and also i've seen
when i was saying i've seen some of these videos before in
some of those they are participating like
i've seen like the dude and i don't want to get too graphic but dude and the
lady are going together and then the The partner that is the observer could
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do stuff like hold the other dude's balls or help him put it in and all kind
of weird stuff. So it can take.
I shouldn't say weird. Again, I'm trying not to be judgmental.
Because it's uncomfortable.
It's like, okay, what are you here for? Right. Because they could have done that on their own.
Right. And I think that's why I don't incorporate.
I can't be in a threesome because I'm just going to be there like what we do now. Right.
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Next on the list is electrostimulation. So using some sort of toys or devices
that, you know, basically issue like a mild shock or something like that. Oh, a shock?
Yeah. Oh, I thought you smelled like the rose. I love that. But I don't know
about a shock. Does the rose shock you? No.
That's why I was throwing it on. Oh, okay. Gotcha. I got excited,
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but then I got scared when you said shock.
So, yeah. So something that gives you a little shock and that turns them on,
I guess. So that's a no for you. How hard is it?
Well, I'll even say mild, since it says mild shock here.
I'm sure if your ass sitting there getting a toe up like you're in an electric chair.
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So, yeah, I couldn't do the could you do the shock?
I'm not into pain like that. So if it's mild, I remember I used to have this
pen that was shocking. Jordan, did you?
No, no. God, I'm thinking about somebody else.
I know who it was. But anyway, we used to have this. I used I bought this pen
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at some like prank store or something.
Right. And when you press the top, it'll shock you.
I did that shit one time. I was like, oh, no, we're not doing this no more.
And then it's such a sensitive area. Oh, no. Yeah, so I don't know.
Because what would you shock the man then on his penis? Like the head of it?
Well, I've seen that too. So, yeah, I guess it could be. It could be nipples. It could be anything.
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My nipples are sensitive. I don't know about that. Yeah, so for me,
again, if it – Now, let me say this. Now, if it's the other way around, he want me to shock him.
Oh, I'll shock the shit out your ass. Your ass will be in here, god damn it. Like a dog.
I will run your electric bill up.
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Right? But me, I would be less open to it unless this is very important for them.
And even then, we ain't doing this shit every night or nothing close to it.
This some this your birthday present all right but
and then how do you come out and tell somebody just like
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that i like my genital oh like that you want it i'm sure
listen that's why they have different communities where you can connect with
other people who like the things that you like who are into the things that
you were into yeah so and i i think there is a big kink community out there
and maybe people just don't know about it. Exhibitionism.
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So you are in situations where...
You are doing public displays, maybe sex in public where people can actually
see you or maybe flashing body parts where people can see you that those types of things.
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We fucked in public before. I don't know. What is that called?
Exhibitionism. So we's exhibitionaries over here. Exhibitionists. Exhibitionists.
I mean, hey. Not that you intentionally want people to see you.
Well, I think that is part of what this is.
And also, there is a little bit of, you know, you like a little spontaneity in your life, right?
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And like, okay, you know what?
Ain't nobody out here, you know, or something. How can you fucking in the car
and be like, hold on, is that a light?
You know, until I unbig this back, I can't be doing shit like doing sex in cars.
I mean, I have a nice-sized car, but I don't know if that's comfortable for me.
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So, now, nothing. I ain't going to say what I was about to say.
I was about to say, now I'll give you a little knuckle job as we on a little
road trip somewhere. A little blow job.
All right. You drive. Like, that's the trade-off. If you drive,
I'm going to give you this knuckle job or whatever, you know.
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Food play. Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry, so that was a yes for you because you definitely
a yes if you've done it. Yeah, I would say that's okay.
That is all right. Like I said, it's just that risque thing or whatever.
It might help with the whole energy. Yeah, because you're not intentionally going out there to fuck.
Some people are. Yeah, I wouldn't do that. Okay.
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What if I don't look good on that angle or something? If somebody catch me?
Now I'm like in the worst angle possible on somebody's social media. Like, no.
Now, we talked about this in one of our episodes because I came across a guy
who wanted this food play.
Now, that comes in different varieties. It could just be eating,
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smearing food on you, stuff like that.
Remember, I told you that this was the dude that wanted to feed me,
wanted to rub my belly and all kinds of stuff like that.
So food play. Now, on the surface, it sounds good.
My allergies are kicking my butt right now. On the surface, it sounds good.
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Because who don't like food? I like a little fried chicken.
Yeah. So you're saying that we can have fried chicken and a little bedroom activity?
I can bring the chicken to the bed?
Yeah. I'm down. Let's do that.
Why can't we do that? But when it comes down to this whole objectifying me and,
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you know, you this fat fucker, I've come across and I'm going to feed you.
I'm going to get you fat because there's some people who want to stuff you and
or they want you to feel bloated and all. I don't know.
So I guess for some, I guess yes with limitations for me. So I would do it.
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But again, we're not going to make this no thing. I already eat in my bed. I live alone.
So I'm sometimes watching TV, eating Chinese food.
So, you know, it ain't far fetched to add another person in there too.
I don't think my man turned on by me eating. Cause I eat like a man.
I'd be an animal for a life. Oh my, oh my.
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That's funny. I don't think nobody
be turned on by my shit. I eat like a lady. Like a lady. Like a lady.
No, I don't. foot and hand fetishes. So obviously there are a lot of people
who have foot fetishes and hand fetishes.
Now, one thing I used to always do because I didn't want to alienate the folks out in the world.
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And I wanted to make sure that I kept my dating pool as open as possible when
you consider my other limitations, right?
Or other roadblocks.
So I wanted to make Make sure I always kept these hands and feet together. I'm in that nail shop.
Every seven days. Oh, wait. Say it again. I'm in that nail shop every seven days.
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Just in case. Because he might like it more better. No, I'm just playing. So anyway.
But listen. And then also, until, like, I burned my hands.
Both hands the other, not long ago. But nonetheless, you know,
I've always had my long piano playing hands, right?
But that's sexy. because especially for a
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girl like if you're gonna figure me make sure your hands are clean yeah and
also too i've never done really long
nails right so i always keep them
really short because i think that could hurt somebody too
now mind you listen ain't nobody jam no
damn fingers and stuff in me but i'm just
picturing what i think would be
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the case so i don't want to injure you yeah having
sex and now you bleeding to death or some shit i don't know
but anyway thinking about it like oh that's uncomfortable right
scrape me but otherwise i've always tried
to keep my hands and feet together just in general by
the way i was joking about doing it for that reason but just in
general but hey because you know if you don't like it
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my fuck might suck your toes because they don't like you'd be
like i love that another thing i always
said i didn't like feet and booty holes i am the worst gay
person ever oh my god feet and booty holes
right did you have a bad experience with feet i just
never liked other people's feet like what if why do i
want your feet touching me oh wait so when you cuddle in bed you come don't
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put your feet on your feet i i i have to take a deep breath and go okay here
they go whatever you know oh my now and and again if we're in a relationship
with a person and I know they're hot, I listen, I.
Another hang-up for me. We can't be in a relationship and you have bad hygiene, right?
So this is a person who I know is clean and all of that. Yes.
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But you're not about to bring your ass in here after running track and then
rub your sweaty feet on my leg or something. No. I like my man a little dirty sometimes.
And, you know, there are some people with the whole foot fetish thing that like
the feet smell or whatever, like the stinky feet smell.
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Just like some of them sniff armpits And they want you to be a little musty,
Listen, that's Unfortunately, that's one I can't fulfill I can't get musty I can't get musty.
I'm at an age And stage in my life where I ain't doing shit to get musty Right? What did you say?
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I don't go to the gym I don't even cut my grass No more, I got a service Bitch,
I don't get musty So, I just may not be able to fulfill that.
And I'm not about to get funky for you, but I don't know.
I wonder at what point in their life did they realize that they just smell somebody
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musty. I know somebody with a smell fetish.
And they said they started, huh?
Do they get turned on because it smells good or because it smells a certain
way? They just, yeah. Really?
Oh my God, I can't do this because I know this person is going to watch.
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So I'll just say I know somebody with a smell fetish. If I start saying what they do.
They smell the seat when you get up.
I'm not going to say no to that. I didn't do that to me.
He was trying to make sure that cat was right. So.
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So, for the foot and hand fetish, we got that one.
The next one is gagging. Oh, I'm sorry. Was that a yes for you with the foot
fetish and all of that? Because, yeah, you want your toes sucked. Come on, P.B.
Gagging is the next one. I just want to see what that is. Like throwing up on
a dick or like something in your mouth gagging?
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I'm trying to find out, but I had to get quiet a minute when you,
because I don't know for sure that they were talking about fellatio when they
said. So I'm reading it here now.
And it's a vehicle for increasing the helplessness of a submissive person by
making them drool, unable to speak, and humiliated.
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So this is part of that bondage, BDSM-type situation.
So I don't think this is one. Who knows? Maybe the one during fellatio is a
different category, But I think this is the ball in the mouth,
almost choking you into to you ready to gag or something like that is what I got from it.
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I like a little choke, but don't.
Once again, committed relationship because you choke me. I'm not.
I'm probably going to slap you.
I'm sorry. So, again, committed relationship.
I trust you because you get to going too far.
I'm probably gonna Okay yeah so The hood gonna come out It's gonna be like Wait
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a Hood ain't never left Wait a damn minute Hood ain't but a half inch Below
the surface on me so Alright I'm gonna skip that one I don't even know what
it is Doesn't look interesting Oh there's a mirror fetish A fascination with mirrors.
Lactophilia People who either If it's what I'm thinking I'm like fucking in
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front of a mirror I think this is beyond that That's normal Oh okay I know nothing
I mean, I shouldn't say normal. That's just vanilla.
But I think it's beyond that. Okay.
Lactophiles, people who either want to watch a woman who's lactating or consume her breast milk.
They tell me that, and I'm going to look at your husband in there and see how,
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I'm going to observe his facial expressions as we talk about this.
Okay. They tell me that when a man is dating a woman and they've had a baby,
like, one of the one things they always try to do is drink a little titty milk afterwards.
And here go these titties again. These titties making their appearance today.
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Yeah. He has tasted the titty milk. I think that's normal.
I think... You've tasted it. I think...
First of all, to me, so in my head, you know, I'm thinking about animal milk,
you know, and whole milk, there's a little sweetness to it, right? Yeah.
But cows eat grass all day. Your ass out here eating.
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Italian beef dip, chicken pot, peppers, mild sauce on the fries.
You eating them six wings with mild sauce.
You eating greens with vinegar and shit in it or whatever.
I don't know what your breast milk going to taste like. And I would imagine
it's going to change from day to day.
But who knows? I don't know. It's just like, close your ears, Jordan.
It's just like tasting semen.
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Because, you know, hey, depending on the person you with, what they ate and all of that. Yes, right?
I don't know. I tasted my breast milk, though. How was it?
It was like, it didn't taste like, you can really, it does taste organic.
It doesn't taste like the milk that you buy in the store. Because you're right.
The milk that you buy in the store is sweet. Well, I hope you're not buying.
Human breast milk in the store.
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They got farms of women just getting milked. Shit.
Well, yeah. So, it's a no from me because I don't have sex with women,
so that wouldn't even be a thing.
And if my gay partner came up with this idea, I would have some questions about his ass.
Right? And by the way, maybe he's bi. I don't know.
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Who knows? What else What else we got here? Latex and nylon fetishes.
So you see those people in the latex suits or whatever, almost like this damn
cat suit you got on over here. But it's not latex. What's nylon?
Nylon is like the same fabric that biker shorts or pantyhose and stuff like
that. I probably got some stuff like that, but I just can't remember. Nylon.
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Gotcha. Oh, no, this is a no for me.
Wait, let me see. Let me read it, because it's called pet play.
And if it involves an animal, I'm out. Let's see.
Your face was so fucking serious. If it involves an animal, I'm out.
Pet play is a form of sexual role play, where an individual is aroused by the
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idea of taking on the appearance or mannerisms of a non-human animal,
such as a dog or cat or something. Would you be down for that?
That's right. Why not?
What else? What else?
Pregnancy. Oh, people that are aroused by pregnant people. I clearly am not at all.
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We talked about bondage. So part of that BDSM world is the S sadism.
And that is. Is that what that stands for? Yes. So bondage to sadism.
What's the T for it? No, there's no T.
BDSM oh so D what the D is D bondage no B D SM so sadomasochism or whatever but the D is what B,
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bondage i don't know we'll probably
maybe we'll come across it here but the sadism part
is people who want to cause
pain and i've known somebody like that too that
tried to holler at me and i was like yeah we're not we're not i say you in the
what though who knows who doing the pain right so you say right exactly no and
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they were the one who likes to cause the pain oh no so that was one One of those
where I stepped back and I was like, yeah, no, we're not doing that. Yeah.
We're not doing that. I have my limits. Jordan, what did you,
did you, oh, discipline. Okay.
Or dominant. Dominant. That's actually what I was thinking about. Yeah.
So, yeah, the causing me pain part.
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I'll whoop your ass. That's bottom line. We're not doing that.
Every fetish person is like, goddamn.
No, they didn't want me. They don't want this. I will K-Town whoop your whole ass.
West side of Chicago will come right out.
Sensory deprivation. Oh, okay. When you're doing something to take away somebody's sight,
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like blindfolding or hearing or ability to move, all of those types of things.
Would you be down for that?
If I ain't got my wig on, then yeah.
I don't want you to see me, bitch I want you to smell me, though,
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Yes, and also, what if it's, you know, around Because that can go either way, right?
So you could be the person that's being deprived Or you could be the person
that's depriving So, yeah,
I'm okay with that, again Somebody I trust and know and all of that Then,
yes, I could You could do it deal with that. Mm-hmm.
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So somnophilia, somnophilia is being aroused by someone who is or is giving
the appearance of sleeping.
Jordan never woke you up? He like, what just went in me or something? Yes. Okay.
Oh, I didn't mean to ask that question. I should have said that.
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Yeah. You know, when you're tired, you're like, oh, my God, I got to suck Nick.
Or like I'm just going here and get this shit over with but you know when you
into it it's different when you into it but like if I'm sleepy I got if I have
to work in the morning bitch stop playing with me I got to work in the morning,
yeah yeah but if it's any other time then okay this is more this isn't just,
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they get off on you right this is somebody who now.
And I don't know if there's if it's listed in here but there's one like the
necrophilia where somebody has that Dead.
Yeah, so they want you to either play dead or whatever.
And if I'm being honest, I think that that's what either this somnophilia or
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necrophilia is what Bill Cosby sort of suffered from.
I think that those people that do that drugging people type thing,
that is sort of the vibe that they are going for.
That's what I think. Now, listen, I don't know, for legal purposes,
because Bill Cosby got a lot more money than I got, this is not me suggesting
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that Bill Cosby is guilty of any crimes.
Allegedly. So what he was accused of or allegedly has done or whatever,
and it's not even about Bill Cosby, just anybody who does that, that drugging thing.
I, in my opinion, I think that's kind of what they're going for.
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But, you know, whatever.
So, you down for the doing the fake sleeping? I'm with that. That don't bother me.
Listen, we can play all kind of games. We can play cops and robbers.
I can be cleaning and then you come in and surprise me and take advantage or
whatever, you know. I can pray like I'm in the bed, sleep, and you can come and whatever.
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I'm good with that. That doesn't bother me. This is going to work regardless.
Whether I'm asleep, up, it's going to be good. So go ahead, do your thing,
whether I'm asleep or not.
What? I wasn't expecting that response.
Is the coochie going to work regardless? It's going to work regardless.
So just go ahead. You act like it's a vending machine. hey you got enough money
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you got enough money you can go ahead and get it alright so let me just do a
couple more just to wrap this up.
Temperature play i never heard of
that so so they said it
can be anything from mild to extreme where i
don't know if you are it can
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be anything from like you know putting ice cubes in your mouth and then during
oral sex or stuff like that oh yeah or it could be you know they like the room
really hot i knew somebody else like this too really and i'm glad we never did
this because Because I don't like heat like that. I don't like to be sweating. Right.
So you wanted it that hot. You wanted to turn the heat up, like in the summer, and go for it.
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Not me. You ain't finna have me sweating out my weave. No. And I ain't got no weave.
So, yeah. So, virginity fetish.
Who? A virginity fetish. When you virginal like me.
Like us throw me in there like okay listen the way i look at it every seven years,
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god will renew your vagina or your pussy
so if you don't like anything
that happened and you can wait seven years you are cleansed that's not me saying
i didn't wait it's seven years for nothing by the way but ladies if it's been
more than seven years since the person you never wanted If you wanted to do
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anything with, and you did, it's erased.
God took it away. With that girl, Drea, say, I think your wholeness can be erased, right? Yeah. Shit.
Zoophilia. Someone who derives sexual arousal from animals. Nope.
Nope. If I hear shit quacking and roaring in my bedroom, we got a problem.
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So I'll stop there. That's enough.
I think that...
I'll still stand by what I said before, with the exception of the things that I said no to.
So I think I'm going to add to my list.
So to urine and feces, I am going to add to my list of things I am not willing to do.
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No animals? Extensive pain and animals.
Yeah. And, of course, anything that, well, it's not a kink. So anything that
involves a child or something like that's just illegal and you need your ass whooped.
But, yeah, so I'll add those things to my list.
What about you? Has anything changed since we started this conversation?
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No. I might get peed on. Like, he has to, like, really be into that.
But let me tell you something. I'm not cleaning that shit up.
But, you know, we've peed on each other, like, in the shower or something like that.
Like, that's different. I'm so glad you would have had a seat.
Yes. That's right. Like, yeah, I peed on him in the shower, but it's different
because it's the shower. Oh, yes. Not in my bed.
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I was just about to say, the only thing, now, I would do that in a shower setting only. Yeah.
Because you know how much this mattress costs? You know, because,
yeah, that mattress is so good. You're so silly. So, yeah.
And also, I don't care where we at. You ain't shitting on me. At all.
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I'm sorry. Sorry, you shit on me and I'm punching you wherever it came out of.
I'm going to shit on your mama hoe. Don't you shit on me.
Don't. So, but yeah, a shower situation I could do with pee.
And I think it's just because you want to try it. And I have a friend who even
said about the feces thing.
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He was like, why are you tripping about something that can wash off?
Bitch, I don't want to. Because you always got one up on me.
Like, yeah, that's why I shit on you.
Okay. You would never be able to go out in these streets and say you shit it on Jimmy.
I'm going to tell you right now. If you ever hear somebody telling you that
they shit it on me. They a motherfucker. They a lie.
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They a motherfucker. A damn lie. Nope. Because then you need to ask them how
they got punched in the back of their neck.
Because if they can if they can confess that first part then confess how they
got punched in the back of their damn neck tell the whole story right tell the whole story.
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All right y'all you know what thank you so much for watching so today we talked
about fetishes and kink and all the things that we are willing to do and let
me say this a healthy sexual Sexual relationship is very,
you know, sex is a very important part of a relationship, right?
And maybe it's not, it's definitely not fair to judge things that you haven't
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experienced or don't know anything about.
So maybe if somebody is presenting something to you, I say do your research.
And if it is something that you are willing to do, then do it.
Adding a little spice to your relationship has never hurt anybody.
OK, but I will tell you that old vanilla missionary every time two pumps you
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out, that shit will have, you know, somebody running to somebody else.
So who knows that little kinky thing that they're asking you to do might be
the thing that, you know, keeps your relationship going. So, yeah.
So, again, don't forget to subscribe to our weekly podcast.
We are always happy to have you. We want to thank Holly once again for joining
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us and then we will see you on the very next episode.
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