June 14, 2024 • 53 mins
Welcome to another edition of Understanding the Science of You, where host Graham Skidmore delve into real conversations to help you break free from limiting molds and build bridges to your most productive self. In this episode, Graham is joined by Jummie Moses, the host of the Shifting Dimensions podcast.
Jummie shares her journey from moving to the United States from Nigeria at a young age and what it was like assimilating to a new culture.
"We lived a very comfortable life back home, so coming here was like a culture shock for me, especially as it pertains to differences when it comes to race," she said. "Back home, everyone is Black, basically, but coming here and seeing different race or different colors of people, I wasn't shook by that. I didn't really see people for color. I know that sounds so cliche, but it's the truth.
"But coming into a culture where that's the main narrative when it comes to someone's outward appearance, was a culture shock for me. Tying to assimilate into a society where that was such a big thing was something that led me down the path of thinking more deeply about interpersonal relationships, how we relate to one another, and how that affects how we're able to show up as ourselves authentically in this world."
Within this episode Graham and Jummie discuss:
- Self growth and self-actualization
- Cultural identity, assimilation and appreciation of diversity
- Using intuition and synchronicities to navigate life's path
- Asking the universe for signs
- How to effectively ask the universe for support and manifestation through specificity and simplicity
Tune in to hear about Jummie's experience with the metaphysical and the synchronicities that led her to where she is today.
Jummie Moses is the host of the thought-provoking podcast, Shifting Dimensions. With a passion for exploring the depths of spirituality, religion, consciousness, the paranormal, mysticism, the cosmos, and technology, Jummie delves into the metaphysical world and the mysteries that connect each of these realms. Shifting Dimensions aims to uncover the true nature of reality by examining the threads that weave through these diverse themes.
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Well, thank you, listeners. Welcome to another edition of Understanding the
Science of You, where we are focused on having real conversations to help you
break out of the molds that are holding you back and build bridges to your most productive self.
And we have the pleasure today of being joined by Jumi.
And Jumi, I don't know your last name. By the way, is that like a thing with
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podcasts, to only give a first name is to do a first and last,
because maybe somebody doesn't want people finding them?
Actually, that wasn't part of my intro, but I randomly had that thought as I
realized that I don't know your last name. And do you want to share that or what is the protocol?
Yeah, no, I definitely share my last name on the podcast. So it's Jumi Moses.
My last name is Moses. Very easy.
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That's right. Actually, I take that back. When she said that,
I went, oh, yeah, Moses. Now I feel bad. Okay.
So the reason that I'm really excited to talk with, with Jumi here today is
because she's, I don't know if the right term is a great conversationalist,
but she had me on her podcast and I knew the topics that she wanted to kind
of cover talking with you and watching the way that you navigated the conversation
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and the way that you set up points and broke them up.
Right. I was very impressed and fascinated by the way that you wove that conversation together.
Other and I felt like it turned out to be so
much of a better quality conversation than what I was expecting way more
comfortable and everything else and so I thought all right
I know you're an interesting story but when someone's wheels
like that are able to turn I know there's a lot more behind the scenes and so
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I was like all right there's a lot more to her now that I've kind of talked
to let the listeners know you know but that set the expectations high for you
know how you're going to impress them, you know, everything you're throughout this conversation,
share a little bit about your background, you know, whatever you're comfortable with.
Yeah, of course. Graham, I just want to thank you for inviting me on your show
and thank you for that amazing compliment.
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That warms my heart because, you know, when I have people come on my show,
I want them to feel comfortable and I want to get the best out of the conversation.
So I'm happy that you got to have that experience. As it pertains to me, my name is Jumi Moses.
I am the host of a podcast called Shifting Dimensions.
But outside of that, I work in a regular nine to five job in marketing for a
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tech company. So that's kind of what I do on the side.
I came to the U.S. with my family when I was about seven years old.
So I've been in the country now for 20 plus years.
And it has been been a remarkable journey, to say the least.
My dad sort of made the decision to bring all of us here, not because we weren't
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comfortable back home, but he just kind of wanted us really be immersed in a
society where we could pursue our dreams,
our passions, especially pertaining to education.
Education was a big thing for him. So he kind of like really drove that point home.
And my dad is a very deep philosophical thinker. And I think I picked up a lot
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of those skills and interests from him as well.
So really and truly, you know, I'm the oldest of four.
Daughters and there's been a lot of pressure put on me culturally,
not in a bad way, but sometimes in a way where I've had to silence my own intuition
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and gut, you know, in terms of like following my own authentic blueprint, right?
Because I have this thing where I have to set a good example for my sisters
and I have to make sure that I don't basically use my parents'
sacrifice from leaving everything back home and coming to a new country and
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basically squandering that sacrifice and not living up to their great expectations.
So that's something that has always been on my shoulders.
And growing up in that environment, I was a good daughter and I was a good sister,
but I was not always good to myself in the sense of, again, not listening to my own intuition,
not listening to my own voice, not pursuing my own passions.
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I mean, I went to school for engineering.
I got my undergrad in engineering, which I appreciate the knowledge.
Absolutely. But if I was honoring myself, I probably would have gone into communications
or psychology, something that spoke more deeply to me.
So really and truly, I've just been on this journey.
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Of self-actualization, trying to find myself, trying to come to terms with my
desires and my interests and my wants,
and really making sure that I'm now creating a life that aligns with me instead
of trying to live a life that was created for me, right?
And that can be hard sometimes, and I'm still trying to find the balance,
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but every single day I put one foot in front of the other.
And that's kind of what led me down the path of, you know, really starting Shifting dimensions.
Shifting dimensions was me kind of stepping into the unapologetic,
courageous version of myself who's like, hey, I have these interests in the
metaphysical and whether or not people think it's weird or crazy,
I'm going to go down this path because this is what's calling to me.
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So that's just a little bit about me.
It's really just been a journey of accepting who I am and trying to live my
life more authentically and more aligned with who I am as a person.
So there's a lot that I could unpack in a, we'll call it a therapy session between
the pressure, right? Don't squander opportunity, right?
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And then the feeling blessed with it being given to you as well.
Anyway, there's a lot for anyone to unpack and how to understand and how to
not let that pressure consume, I would imagine.
So before we go down that path, can you say back home? What was back home?
I realized I didn't mention that as you were talking. Nigeria.
Nigeria was back home. And we lived a very comfortable life back home.
So So coming here was like a culture shock for me, really and truly,
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especially as it pertains to differences when it comes to race.
I mean, back home, you know, everyone is black, basically.
But coming here and seeing different race or different colors of people, I wasn't shook by that.
Right. I didn't care. I was like, oh, that's really cool. Like,
I didn't really see people for color. And I know that sounds so cliche,
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but it's the truth. I really didn't.
I could tell they were different from me in terms of what they look like.
Like, but I didn't hyper focus on their skin tone, but like coming into a culture
where that's the main narrative when it comes to someone's outward appearance, right?
And like the first thing people see when they see someone is like what their
color is or what their race is.
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So that was like a culture shock for me as well.
So trying to assimilate into a society where that was such a big thing was also
something thing that kind of led me down the path of, you know,
thinking more deeply about interpersonal.
Relationships and just kind of how we relate to one another and how that affects
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how we're able to show up as ourselves authentically in this world.
Wow. So you very casually just kind of described that your world did a 180 and
then you had to kind of refigure things out.
Yes. And again, at seven years old.
At seven years old, at this point in time at seven, you know,
most kids are, hey, I'm learning how to run properly, right?
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Without falling over every time I do things and not how to be clumsy, right?
And here you are learning how to acclimate into a whole new culture.
And by the way, that was a beautiful story about your parents and your dad making
the sacrifice to open up opportunities, right?
I mean, that's such a beautiful sentiment. Anyway, so I just always want to
acknowledge that, that you had said that and give him this, you know, kudos.
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That's just phenomenal. Thank you. And so, all right, so now,
wow, there's so much that we can go into.
For me, I grew up in Michigan, in the United States, the majority of my life, 98% of the years.
So I recognize that when I go to different states, some slang is different,
right? There's different accents, things of that nature, right?
But then some perspectives can be different.
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But I've never actually spent more than a vacation, which is never a real immersion, right?
And so it's really easy to think like,
oh, well, everybody just thinks this way, or everybody kind of experienced it
this way or everyone views things this way right and so i
think that there's a lot of value especially in this conversation when we
talk about building bridges right and just understanding how those differences are
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and also just how much those differences get rooted into us from such a young
age for that matter right when we're so young and impressionable before we even
realize it right before we've been cognizant of making our own choices of our
kind of our own beliefs they're kind of placed onto us for lack of until we
are able to kind of navigate get them in our own way.
And so let's talk about some advantages that it's provided you from having that
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dual reference points of life to operate with compared to only one reference point. Yeah.
So some advantages of that is, you know, I've always been someone that was really
good at seeing different perspectives, right?
So, you know, most times people have what they believe, they have their opinion and they stick by it.
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And they can't really see any other perspective or any other sort of opinion on the matter.
But I've always been really good at seeing both sides to a story.
And I think having that experience being,
you know, Nigerian, living in Nigeria, and even coming to this country and still
very much being connected to a pretty large Nigerian community here,
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and then also assimilating into American culture in general,
I was really able to see multiple perspectives, right?
So I never really took a lot of things personal, right?
Because, again, I talk about race and racism, it's such a big topic,
but that's just one example, right?
Where I never let myself overthink the fact that, oh, okay, I'm a Black person in America, Right.
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Because understanding where I come from and that not necessarily being a thing.
So I was able to kind of not.
What's the word, internalize, oh, I'm a Black person in America and the challenges that come with that.
But on the other hand, I was still able to understand why a lot of people,
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a lot of Black people in America would have that internalized racism or have
certain views on how they're being treated in this country just because that's
their experience, right?
So I would say that was like one huge advantage.
Another huge advantage was really understanding that so many different cultures
have so much to offer and so much to give.
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So I found myself being so interested in different types of cultures.
I remember getting close to kids like myself, but they had come from Korea or
maybe they've come from Vietnam and becoming best friends with them because
I was able to relate with them as well and really appreciate and understand their culture.
So that was another advantage of having that sort of dual perspective where
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it's like, okay, I'm just not in a bubble anymore.
I'm in a society now where it's multicultural.
It's not just like one sort of, you know, culture or group of people.
Now I'm around different groups of people and I'm able to assimilate and get
to know all of these different people and find similarities and find differences and honor differences.
And just, it just made me really appreciate the diversity of humanity, right?
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So that's like one huge advantage that I'm I'm eternally grateful for.
What I wrote down was you received a beautiful lesson in how understanding leads to acceptance. Yes.
Absolutely. I mean, a thing that's really stuck out to me was by you taking
the time to understand other people, other situations,
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other circumstances, and being able to walk through both in different shoes
as well, you know, is hugely helpful.
And then as a result of that, like you can go, I understand how this person
can come now comes across angry, but I also understand why this person is rightfully
to be angry. Absolutely.
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Right. And as a result of that, I understand why it's important that I just
that I first need to hear that.
Yes. Before anything else can occur.
Right. This person needs to get heard. And then from there, we can have a conversation.
But until somebody is willing to acknowledge that there is a different perspective, a different reality,
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a different dimension of reality than the one that they live in based on their
own experiences in life, until that can happen, it's really hard to get acceptance.
Otherwise, you're just trying to get conformity or force everybody to understand
your way. Right, right. Absolutely.
And I think we can look around and say, that doesn't seem to be going so good. Mm-hmm.
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Not at all. Yeah, I agree with you. I think you summed that up perfectly.
That's exactly how I would sum it up is just understanding people's differences
has allowed me to stretch my compassion and my empathy for people.
And I see myself in a lot of people, to be quite honest.
So, you know, people always say that we're mirrors of each other.
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And I think that's the truth, really. we come from different cultures.
We have different backgrounds.
We look different from one another, but we.
Whenever you sit down and you talk to someone and you just allow yourself to
get lost in someone else's story, there's so many things that you can pick up
from that story that you can identify and relate to, right?
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So that's just the beautiful thing, or at least that's what I consider to be
extremely beautiful about just trying to deeply understand people without coming
from a point of even trying to analyze it.
Like you said, if I'm across someone who's angry, I'm not sitting there trying
to analyze why they're angry.
I want to hear them, right? I just kind of want to immerse myself in that experience,
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almost kind of put myself in their shoes in a figurative sense.
And I'm like, okay, I see what the issue is.
There's a part of you that is not able to fully express yourself, right?
You feel like you're being held down in some way.
I can relate to being held down, right?
Even though I don't look like you, I can relate to being held down.
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I can relate to being misunderstood.
I could relate to being let down, right? So yeah, I think how you said it just
sums it up perfectly, to be honest.
But I'm hoping that I'm seeing a reflection of my future self and the ability
to so easily articulate and put new thoughts together in the sentences the way that you do.
Thank you. If we're going to learn about reflections here. So now we're going
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to also allow you to be relatable here with squandering opportunity.
I think anybody who's had a parent make any sort of sacrifice to them deals
with some element of that pressure, whether it was applied by the parent or not.
They just kind of feel it. All for good reasons, right?
And so now there's the humorous side of me. My head as I say this, I go, oh. So exactly.
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So your dad must have been ecstatic when you were like, this engineering degree
and stuff. I know it's cool and look good on the wall and all. But you know what?
I'm just going to go do a podcast. Yeah.
Well, you know what? The story went a little bit different than that.
I will credit my parents for being, in terms of being African parents,
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Nigerian parents, they're kind of a little bit more on the liberal side of things
in the sense of they're flexible in their thought.
I've seen them evolve in thought over the years. They're not like sticklers for a certain rule.
And I think my parents know who I am. Your parents kind of know your gifts.
They know the things that come natural to you.
So I've had conversations with my dad now and I'm the first daughter. I'm the first child.
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So I'm kind of a guinea pig for a lot of things. And looking back when it comes
to you have to major in engineering, you either have to be a doctor or a lawyer.
Career, those things aren't coming from a bad place, right?
It's not like my parents are trying to control my life or force me down a certain path.
They just want the best for me and they want to guarantee success for my life, right?
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Because those jobs are known for being high paying, they come with a lot of
accolades, so on and so forth.
But when I got out of engineering school, I think by that time,
my dad kind of understood that this was just not a passion of mine, right? Right.
So I kind of had the freedom to kind of pivot and kind of explore other areas of interest.
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And one of those interests was marketing. So I kind of got into the marketing space.
So that was like the first pivot. I didn't start my podcast until 2020 and I
graduated from college in 2016. So it was about four years.
My parents are very excited for me to start my podcast because they know the
things that I'm excited to talk about. out. They know I'm a deep thinker.
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They know I love curating thought-provoking conversations.
So they were very excited for me. And it was during the COVID pandemic.
So that was a time where everybody was home. So there was a little bit extra
time to kind of pour into hobbies, right?
So that was just kind of like the journey of it. So I will say that my parents were very gracious.
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They never once forced me to work in engineering.
I took a different path in terms of of the corporate world and I'm still very
much in corporate, but podcasting, it's more of a hobby labor of love, like my true passion.
And they're very, very supportive of that. And the first podcast I started was A Word to the Wise.
So actually not shifting dimensions and A Word to the Wise focused on mind, body, spirit.
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So we talked about mental health. We might also talk about romantic relationships
and then also like finance or something.
And I would sprinkle in the metaphysical stuff, but I was still very afraid
to go full throttle on that because I grew up Christian, right?
I grew up Catholic and a lot of my friends and family are very into the church.
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So a lot of the questions that I had, I was kind of afraid to kind of.
Really allow myself to go down the rabbit hole in that way via a podcast,
because I didn't want to be judged, right?
I didn't want to be considered, I don't want to be dramatic,
like a devil worshiper or promoting evil things, right?
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Because anything that goes outside of the realm of the Bible or what people
consider to be Christianity, people kind of freak out about that.
So I had a fear of it. So I was still kind of in the closet,
right? Like I would talk about human design on A Word to the Wise.
I might talk about numerology. I might talk to psychics here and there,
but I didn't talk about aliens, for example, right? I didn't talk about aliens.
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I wouldn't talk about just other things that people might misconstrue, right?
So eventually last year, I was kind of doing some work with my cousin who was
also in the podcast space.
And he asked me the question, He's like, you know, you've been doing this for four years now.
What's the next thing for you? Like, what calls to your heart?
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Like, what episodes do you do that, you know, that light you up?
And I was like, well, I like everything I do.
And he was like, yeah, but like, what do you do that feels like breathing for you?
And I was like, well, I just, I feel like I'm in heaven.
Like I'm in a trance whenever I'm talking to people about more metaphysical
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concepts and I'm able able to ask questions about the Bible and go a little bit deeper.
When I'm just able to have those types of conversations, I absolutely love it.
And he was like, well, that's what you need to be doing. You need to double down on that.
And as soon as he said that, there was something in my heart that just kept pushing me.
I've been feeling the whispers, but the whispers intensified.
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I feel like my spirit guides were like, you need to double down on talking about spirituality.
You You need to double down on the metaphysics. You need to double down on all
the stuff that you're super interested in, but afraid to kind of go full throttle on.
So that's how the idea of shifting dimensions came into play.
And it took a while for me to tell my parents. I was still very scared.
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I kind of started it on a hush-hush type of level where I didn't really tell
them that I was doing the podcast, even though they're super supportive about my other podcasts.
I didn't know how they were going to receive this podcast, right?
So I just recently actually told them. I know you and Sunshine asked me this
on the podcast, and I think I had said I hadn't told them yet.
Well, I have told them about the podcast.
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I gave them the full rundown, the whole scope, and they're so supportive.
They're super, super supportive. They're so happy for me.
They know that this is my true heart's calling. And that support just kind of like opened the.
Energetic doors for me, right? I just kind of felt this pressure valve release
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where I was like, okay, if my parents accept me and they're going to allow me to be myself,
then I can really do this. I can really trust in myself.
I can really trust in what calls to me.
And I can just kind of go in on this all guns blazing.
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So yes, they were supportive in a long-winded way no no no there's so you touched
on a lot of important things the one that i want to pull out of it though is
i think this is an important thing because,
for you talk about intuition right and and this is part of the thing i think
with you know helping people understand themselves is that generally speaking
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most of us don't go to school to learn how to understand what our body's talking
to us right and so sometimes you know based all we're left with is what we see
on TV or read about something way different than the way it really actually is.
And so when you say feel the whispers, how do you know that you're feeling the whispers?
How would you just say to somebody, no, no, no, that's feeling the whispers. Don't blow that off.
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Don't just think that that's, you know, a random passing or doubt yourself.
Yeah. You know, that's a great question. And I think it probably is different
for everyone, one, right?
But I know for me, especially when it comes to the realm of like,
you know, podcasting, what I'm doing now, it's an obsessive thought.
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It just, the thought just doesn't leave me. It just keeps intensifying, keeps intensifying.
And I think the universe starts putting people in my path that want to talk
about those things, right?
Or I start coming across people who are doing what I want to do.
So it's kind of like a double down on that. And I will say it's a whisper,
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the whispers, cause not, it's not always intense with an obsessive thought,
but the whispers feel, what's the best way to put it in?
You know, when you take a deep breath and you release, right?
Like the whispers feel like that. Like when I get a thought or something that's
put into my head or I hear a voice or something, it feels like some sort of
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release. It just feels right.
And if I don't overthink it. And so as you're talking, I want to distinguish
for people the difference between what you're describing versus like manic or manic energy or OCD.
Yes, of course. How would you say to somebody and like even for yourself, right?
How do you self-guide to know the difference between this is me walking on the
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path that I'm supposed to versus me just being OCD and manipulating it in my
head and thinking like, oh, my God, all this stuff is happening. Right.
That is a great question. Okay. So I think the best way to distinguish between both of them, right?
I feel like the stuff that could be OCD or like, we all have like impulsive feelings, right?
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Where we, if someone makes you sad, for example, let's take OCD out of it.
If someone makes you sad, some people might run to food, right?
Like we all have like our coping mechanisms that we just have to do in order to feel okay.
I would say that like those feelings, I'm craving a sense of balance,
right? I'm craving a sense of safety.
I'm craving some sort of security. Like I don't feel like myself.
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What I'm talking about is more of a feeling that feels like I'm breathing.
Let's say I wanted to pursue music, for example, right? But I was scared what my friends would think.
But whenever I have the thought about singing or whenever I have the the thought
about writing music, I get happy.
I feel like I can breathe. It feels like I'm not holding my breath, right?
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It feels like I get the opportunity to just exist as I am, right?
So there's a peace and there's an alignment that comes with it versus the other
sort of like obsessive thought is more of a need for balance,
is more of a need for security, right?
It's more of a need of like, I'm not feeling safe right now, right?
Whereas the other one just feels more like You know, when you go to work and
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you have on like a suit and you're not really comfortable, but when you come
home, you can just kind of like be yourself, take off your clothes and kind of chill on the couch.
That's what that other feeling gives me. Right. Like, oh, I can relax.
I no longer have to pretend. Right. I can be myself. Right.
And so there's that feeling and I want to provide like a KPI to self-govern
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with. Yes. Like some people would call it synchronicities.
Some people would say like they see their life goals progressing.
What are some of like the external factors that you use around you to say,
okay, the way that I separate being on my path from OCD is I also see the world
shaping itself to support me.
Or somebody can be like, I'm seeing patterns everywhere.
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Well, there's random patterns seeing everywhere. And then they're seeing patterns
with a purpose that are meeting the places. Absolutely.
Right. So I guess how would you kind of, in your words, describe how you use,
you know, material things to keep you grounded, but also that by using the material
things to also validate your belief?
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That's a that's a phenomenal question, you know, just to kind of double down on what you're saying.
Like whenever I'm following sort of like impulsive actions and I don't feel,
I feel dysregulated in my body and I'm like doing things that aren't aligned,
I don't really have peace.
There's no sense of, I don't necessarily feel like I'm on the right path, right?
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And that might manifest in the sense of like, maybe if I decide to drink a lot
of soda because I'm feeling anxious and I'm like going to food,
like my skin starts to look a little bit off, right?
Or my relationships might start to suffer, or I might have this feeling where
I don't want to go out as much.
So it kind of is not making me a better version of myself.
But when I'm on the right path, I always say to people, I had someone ask me
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recently, they're like, would you consider yourself a lucky person?
And I said, that's interesting. That's a good question. I would say that whenever
I listen to my intuition and I am in flow with the blueprint of my life,
doors fly open for me.
Opportunities like fall from the sky for me. I see a lot of like repeating numbers.
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I see a lot of angel numbers and I'm being ushered and guided.
Every single time I say a yes to the universe.
Every single time I'm like, okay, I'm going to step into the universe.
The path that I'm supposed to be on. I can give you one example.
So I remember recently, I had this thought.
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I was like, you know what? I live in the DMV area, in the DC metropolitan area.
And I was like, I want to go to more podcast networking mixers.
I don't really see that much in DC.
I would love to go to more of those. And literally two days later,
I get an email from Podcast Movement, which I think is affiliated with Buzzsprout.
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And they were like, hey, we're going to be in DC, like come out,
you know, and to this mixer.
And then, you know, I keep going through all of the links in the email.
And there's another link in the email that talks about this huge conference that's happening.
And there are different tiers of the tickets. And like the first tier,
of course, I look at it and it's like almost $400.
And I was like, oh, this would be really tight for my budget right now, but I would love to go.
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And I just had this like funny thought of like, I wish I could just go for free. Right.
So anyways, I have that thought. I leave it alone.
I go to the networking event. It's amazing. I connect with all these amazing people.
And at the networking event, they gave us a card with a QR code.
And they basically said that if you scan it, you get to come to the conference for free.
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So it was like the most rapid manifestation I've ever experienced.
And since I started Shifting Dimensions, I've had a ton of experiences like
that with just positive reinforcement.
But before you were able to realize this positive reinforcement,
you had to take that first step. Yes.
And there's always the fear of the unknown, the fear of the uncertainty,
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that first step. So walk me through...
What was kind of going through your head? Like, this is my fear.
This is what's going to happen. Oh boy, this happens.
How am I going to, and then how did that then compared to what really actually happened?
Yeah. So, you know, to your point, I think when we're being called to step into alignment, right?
You're right. There is fear there, but even before we get the positive reinforcement
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from the universe, we actually have to do some personal internal work, right?
So So it's been four years of me doing a different podcast, battling with pushing
the needle a little bit more, right?
So I had to mentally get to a point where if this is my life and I'm the author
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and creator of my life, right, what do I have to lose, right?
I could step into this thing that feels like alignment for me.
And if it doesn't work out, at least I know that it didn't work out.
Like, but I will never know if I never try.
Right. And that sounds so simple, but I had to get myself there first because
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sometimes it's a hobby, it's an interest, but there's quote unquote,
no, no real positive reinforcement until you take the step.
And sometimes even that positive reinforcement doesn't come for a couple of
weeks or a couple of months. Right.
So in between that time, you just have to get to a point where you're mentally
like, you know what, I'm just going to do this thing.
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And I tell spirit, I had a conversation with spirit. I was like,
OK, I'm going to start this thing.
But if you're telling me that this is where I need to be, you keep making it louder.
You've you've done a lot of work on me. I've released a lot of shadow.
If you're telling me that this is where I need to step into,
you've been prepping me for this my whole life. I've had the same interest my
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whole life. You've intensified it.
I need you to make things happen.
You could talk to the universe. You could talk to your spirit guides.
You could talk to God, whatever that force is that's within you and whatever
you connect with as well.
And I had that conversation and I kind of just went into it full throttle and
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I reached out to someone that I thought would be difficult to get on the podcast.
I mean, I didn't have any sort of episodes lined up, I reached out to this guest and I said.
Hey, I listened to you on this other podcast. I would love to have you on my
podcast. I just started it. I have another podcast, but this is brand new.
I would love to have you on. And I, you know, shoot my shot and shot my shot, I should say.
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And they responded, they came on the podcast and that podcast had this,
this, that was my first sort of pseudo viral podcast episode I've ever had. right?
I have about 13,000 views on YouTube, right?
And to me, that was like spirit. That was the universe telling me,
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yeah, you're on the right path.
You asked us to show you, you asked for a sign.
So here it is, right? And when you're on the right path, things are easier for
you. Life isn't easy, right?
But when you're flowing or when you're riding in the current that you're supposed
to be riding on, you're not going against the current, doors and opportunities
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will open a lot faster for you.
I mean, like I said, the other podcast I had was amazing, but the alignment
on shifting dimensions is so drastic.
The success I've seen on shifting dimensions and within the four and a half months I've had it is,
is drastically different from the success I've been trying to get to with the
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word to the wise for over four years. So I hope that answered your question.
I think it's like, again, just to kind of summarize, it starts with you.
You have to believe in yourself. You have to overcome that fear.
And once you're like, you know what, I'm going to step into it,
you can ask the universe to give you additional signs.
Like if this is what you want me to do, then you need to not say make it worth
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my while, but you need to show me that I'm on the right path.
And whatever that looks like to you will be what manifests. us.
So since you opened the door on that, I'm going to go down this path. Okay.
It's in line with the original framework. Yeah, of course.
And that is knowing how to talk to the universe or talk to spirit or talk to
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whatever, or guides, right?
Like, and I appreciate the way that you were like, look, whatever it is,
that's up to you, you know, but you, you touched on something that my experience
has been that it's critically important if you want to be supported by whoever
whoever it is you're talking to, is two things.
One is that what you're asking to be supported on is in line with what you're
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supposed to be doing during this lifetime.
That's one key. But the other part is specificity.
Simplicity and specificity. I had to learn that it's like talking to a chatbot.
The ability to infer or to interpret or to apply their own personal bias into
a set of facts, that's not going to work.
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You got to be able to explain what you need to a chat bot to be able to get
help succinctly. Did that come naturally to you? How did you figure that out?
And based on that, what advice would you give listeners to help them get better
responses when they're asking for it?
That's a great question because I will candidly say that I'm still figuring that out, right?
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Because I'm someone, it works for me in terms of my creativity, right?
Because I'm not like a rigid thinker. So I'm very like open-minded and open-ended with a lot of asks.
I used to be the type of person where I'm like, you know, spirit,
I want $1,000, but give me whatever you think I need, right?
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Right. So I've always been that person.
And I've recently over the years, like to your point, realized the more specific
I am, the quicker manifestations come to me. Right.
So, for example, the apartment that I'm sitting in right now,
I was very specific about what I wanted, what I wanted to pay.
And it came really quickly. So I do think that you're absolutely right.
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You need to be specific, keep it as simple as possible, and then it comes right to you.
And to your point, I'm still working on it, right? Because like I said at the
beginning, I spent so much of my years living for other people,
right? So I have two voices in my head all the time.
The one that is my voice and what I want, and then society's voice,
society's expectations, right?
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So whenever I'm asking for something, I find myself still trying to merge society's
expectations into my ask.
So it's kind of like all over the place.
But like I said, I'm getting much better and better. But when it comes to kind
of asking the universe for a sign, so when it, for the podcast,
I didn't really ask for something specific, right?
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Because obviously I want to grow the podcast.
I want my conversations to have positive impact on the audience that,
you know, it's reaching and I want it to reach the right audience.
That's a given fact. But with this one, I kind of wanted the universe to surprise me, right?
Because I was stepping into an unknown path, wasn't sure what was going to happen.
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So I kind of made it open-ended because I didn't want to be hyper-focused on
the numbers, right? Right. So maybe the universe might show me in a different
way where it's like I get to talk to someone I never dreamed of talking to before.
Or maybe somebody might reach out to me that, you know, helps me get to the next level.
I wasn't really sure what it is, but the deeper I go into the journey,
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the more I know exactly what I want.
Right. So, for example, when I was
like, oh, I would want to go to more networking mixers in the D.C. area.
That was extremely specific. And the universe delivered just like that.
Right. when I was like, I want to go to the podcast conference,
but I don't have the funds for that.
I would love to go to this for free. The universe delivered.
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You're not giving yourself enough credit for this, at least in my humble opinion.
I'm inserting my opinion here, so if you don't mind.
The part I don't think you give yourself credit for, though,
is that what you're asking for,
are the things that are in line with personal, I don't know,
personal development, the development of a consciousness, the development of
a soul, whatever else, right?
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And I want to distinguish that, right? Because a lot of people,
I ask for stuff and I don't get what I, I don't get anything that I'm asking for.
Well, you know, universe gets a bad rap here. Spirit gets a bad rap.
I'm trying to speak up for them a little bit by saying that you're not out there
asking spirit to give you the latest pair of designer jeans or something or
designer clothes to show up at your doorstep.
You're not asking spirit to have that girl who took your boyfriend in the eighth
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grade from the dance to go get hit by a bus, right?
Like, I think it's really important to understand, right?
Like, what you're talking about is about making yourself a better human being. Yeah.
Right? And that's a really critical distinction when you're talking about asking
for things. Like, who is this serving?
And if it serves me, then who does it serve, right? Right.
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Because while you're getting served, you're using it to try and serve others. Yes.
Right. So I think you're really underselling the.
You're right. What do you want to call the vibrate, the vibration or the frequency
that you're operating in, you know, in keeping all of that flowing in harmony.
And so therefore, it's easy to get support because you're asking about the stuff
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that matters. Anyway, anyway, it's beautiful.
Yeah. No, I just want to, like, piggyback on what you're saying, too.
Right. I think manifestation works in different ways. There's some stuff that
we need from a practical perspective.
I needed this apartment, right? So in a way, this is directly serving me.
I guess you could say it's serving others because I get to podcast from this
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location, but there are different types of things we manifest. But you're right.
I saw someone say, I think it was a quote on Instagram, that when you're trying
to manifest something that is not just in line with your sole purpose,
but is in line with the greater good, the greater consciousness,
that those things tend to come to you faster, right?
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And I truly believe that I'm a servant.
And when I said, you know, at the beginning that a lot of the thoughts I would
have about my podcast were, they weren't manic thoughts because I could choose
to just ignore them, right?
I could just choose not to do the podcast, but like, it's this intense, intense.
This feeling, it's less a thought, but more of a feeling like this is what I need to do.
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Like if I was coming into this earth and I wrote a contract of like,
how do I want to serve humanity?
What do I want to do? And that continues to unfold. And I'm sure that's going
to take different shapes as I get older and like advance in my career as a podcaster.
But I feel like if there was a contract that I wrote down, this was part of my contract, right?
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Like I've been getting these whispers throughout my life.
I didn't know what it was until like I discovered the medium of podcasting,
but it's just kind of this like intense, I don't want to call it a burden because
that's what it feels like.
It feels like if I, if I'm not doing this, then I'm not in service to people.
Right. And that's why I always tell spirit.
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I'm always like, you know, let the audience that this is going to impact,
let them find my content.
Right. Cause it's not about, being well-recognized. It's not about having this
extremely popular podcast.
It's like these things speak to my heart in a way where it's like,
if people can hear this, maybe it will open their mind.
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Maybe it will shift, no pun intended, shift their perspective, right?
Or transport them into a new way of thinking, into a new reality.
So it feels like a burden that I need to carry out, Right.
But burden sounds negative, but it just it's this weight on me that it feels like an assignment.
That's the best way to put it. So in that regard, I feel like I'm working with
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the universe to manifest something that goes beyond me really and truly.
I might be the vessel and the people I come across
with are part of my soul family to help me but it
feels like this manifestation is beyond me or what's good for me it it feels
like a collective thing you know to your point and maybe that's part of why
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doors are opening and opportunities are being manifested a lot faster so tell
me if you agree with this is.
Accepting responsibility and accountability can feel like a burden.
Yeah. You know, it does carry the weight on shoulders, right?
Based on our prior conversations, right? We both, you know, have an affinity
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for what I refer to as the real Jesus and the teachings.
And look, you never claim, hey, just do what I say. And I'll say,
everything's going to come out easy. No problem.
No, no, no. It was more about like, hey, it's a perspective.
It's a state of mind. It's an understanding. it's recognizing that things
are happening for you versus to you right all of that kind
of stuff yes yes yeah so yeah go ahead no yeah i agree with you i mean i i've
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had moments because like i said i was in a state of deep fear right because
again you know when i think about it and people listen to this podcast might
be thinking it's not a big deal that you're talking about aliens or.
Ghosts or you know i'm i have i just recently talked to a woman who identifies
as a christian witch, right?
And from my background, there's so much fear about being judged just for having
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that conversation, which I don't think it's a big deal because I mean,
I did it anyways, but there's a part of me that just has that fear.
And I'm going to continue to go deeper and have conversations with different
people and people who a lot of religious people might think are heretical, right?
And sometimes, like I said, I feel it more like a burden rather than like an
obsessive of thought if I really think deeper about it.
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And I've had moments where I'm like, do I have to do this?
Couldn't you give me something else? Couldn't you give me a different purpose?
I keep using the word purpose because that's what it feels like.
It feels like a purpose, but to your point, sometimes it does feel like a burden.
And I have talked to spirit, why did it have to be this?
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And I know that sounds dramatic, right? Because I don't genuinely feel like
I'm doing something wrong, but maybe because I still need to deprogram a lot
of things. But it's just that...
I wish it was something else I was obsessed with. Well, look, I mean, let's be real.
I mean, we just found another podcast episode talking just about how emotions
are more addictive and more harmful than drugs.
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They literally are. And so to your point, like, it doesn't matter if it's logical,
right? Feelings are feelings, right?
And not wanting to feel a certain way or wanting to feel a certain way, right?
Like, yeah, they absolutely influence things. For whatever reason,
I'm getting pinged to kind of go back to, by the way, if you don't mind me asking,
what was it about this apartment, why you wanted it?
What was it that it signified to you or what was it that it provided?
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When you say getting pinged, I'm just curious, do you feel like an intuitive
hit to come back to the question? Is that what you're talking about?
Yeah, that sounds a little bit what I'm alluding to.
I try to water it down. Yeah. No, see, that's the thing.
I want us to get to a point where we don't have to water anything down.
And I'm just talking about in general, right?
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I still find myself trying to be like, when you were talking about people will
say, oh, this is the woo-woo, or I'm not trying to sound crazy because we're
afraid that people are going to think that we sound crazy.
It's that trying to constantly make people feel comfortable, right?
So anyways, that's just a side comment. But I wanted this apartment at a time
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in my life where I was kind of, you know, leaving a relationship and I wanted
to live in this particular building.
I didn't know about this apartment unit specifically, but I didn't want to move
to a different place. Right.
And so even though I had locked down a different place, this was just something
that was just like calling to me.
This is like my my comfort zone, really and truly.
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So that's kind of where that.
The special part about the
apartment came into even though i'm at a point now where i do kind of
want to have a different experience and move away from this apartment
but at that time in my life this was just the place where i needed to be right
what's the comfort zone what makes it a comfort zone if you don't mind me asking
outside of the aesthetics like i live really close to trees so there are a lot
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of trees around me i'm close to the city but not in the city so like that exclusion is nice.
And also this was like my first apartment that I really like owned by myself, right?
So this was the first time I would be stepping out of my own zone.
And when I got the apartment, I just had this idea of like going into a cocoon,
not to be dramatic, but like going into a cocoon because I knew that this space
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was going to kind of, I would be shedding a lot, right?
Like I was going to be figuratively in the dark.
And I got this apartment before I, right? You know, 2020 and all that stuff.
So I knew that this space was going to be like a shedding, a deprogramming,
like coming out of the shadow sort of thing.
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So that's the symbolism that I tied to this apartment.
It was like my cocoon at some point. I'm out of the cocoon now,
even though I'm still like in the apartment, but that's what it symbolizes for me.
Butterflies come, you know, still come back to the branch that their cocoon was on, right?
It's, you know, so what I heard you describe, though, sounded very different
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than the universe just provided me just a practical solution because I needed a place to sleep.
It sounded to me like there was a heck of a lot more deep symbolism and support
being provided with this,
with the apartment and what it meant to you and what it allowed you to do and
being able to support you to be your best self on your journey. Yes.
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I mean I'm just an outsider just sharing a perspective.
You pulled that out that was great yeah I think you're spot on yeah,
There's a true genuineness and authenticity about you in like your curiosity
and your vulnerability and your answers that I just truly appreciate in our conversation.
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And so it's just, it's a rare thing to feel that coming through.
And so I really, you know, it's lifted me up. I had a, I've had a,
I've been in a funky spot today. And so I've appreciated being able to pull
some of the energy from you here on our call.
I want to kind of start to wrap this up and give you a chance though,
to talk about why people should reach out to you and listen to you.
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We talked about a lot of great stuff.
Thinking about the feels, right? Feeling in a trance, but it feels like heaven.
You love it. You feel the whispers. The door's unlocking for you.
It's being able to feel it in balance and at peace.
You know that your thoughts are true and on your path and they're leading to the best version of you.
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There's a lot of practical information that was described. I really appreciate
you being so open about, hey, this is kind of what I feel.
This is what I figured out. This is what I haven't. Because look,
it is all a work in progress.
I mean, by the way, don't we always kind of want it to be a work in progress?
Doesn't it kind of seem like it's a little anticlimactic to be like,
oh, you mean like we figured it out and then it's the end?
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It's nice that it's a work in progress. It's a lifelong thing, to be honest.
It's a lifelong thing. So I think I figured out so much, but then I get to a
point where I get another like aha moment. And I'm like, oh my gosh, what?
The more you know, the less you know. And that's the beautiful thing about this
journey. And that's why I just keep my mind open all the time.
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So speaking of you keep your mind open all the time, every time you keep your
mind open, I enjoy it. I enjoy our conversations.
And so now is when we have our opportunity to do our shameless plug,
right? So I tell people you're awesome, right? And then hopefully by now everybody agrees.
And so they want to keep up with you, right? You're going to be bringing up
these, and both on your journey as you uncover new things,
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And so, you know, who are the people that you'd say, hey, like,
if this kind of a thing resonates with you, hey, come give me a listen and here's where to find it.
Thank you so much for giving me the space to talk a little bit more about,
you know, shifting dimensions and why people should tune in.
So, you know, if you're like me, where you are curious about everything,
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especially as it pertains to this world that we live in, especially as it pertains
to the spirit part of ourselves, right?
Because I'm really big on spirituality and the unseen part of this world, right?
Like, I think like Terrence Howard said on the Joe Rogan podcast,
like, we're cosmically blind, right? And I think a lot of us live life in a very mundane way.
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We have the goals that we're supposed to hit.
We have the things that we're supposed to do. We have the belief systems that
we've been indoctrinated into that we're not supposed to question.
So if you're someone who is questioning things, right, you're not really sure
where things land for you as it pertains to Christianity, for example.
You're not really sure where things land for you as it pertains to reincarnation, right?
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Or you just want something that you can hold onto that makes you feel like this
life is not just supposed to be like work and then one day you die, right?
If you are looking to connect to something that goes beyond...
Your physical existence, but it's still tied to it, you definitely want to tune
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into Shifting Dimensions.
Shifting Dimensions is just a space where, again, if there are any sort of questions
that you're too afraid to ask someone or dive deeper into,
you can come and secretly listen to the podcast if you need to,
or reach out to me if I'm still on my personal spiritual journey.
So if there are certain things that you're questioning that you want someone
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to talk about, reach out to shiftingdimensions444 at gmail.com.
And just send me an email asking me to maybe bring someone on the podcast to
talk about it. But yeah, it's just really a space.
My goal with Shifting Dimensions is to get people to shift their perspective
and open their consciousness just a little bit more and to release fear.
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I think there's a lot of fear mongering going on around when it comes to metaphysical
concepts and spiritual concepts.
You have people on one side saying, oh my God, this is devil worship. This is so evil.
And then you have other people on the other side who are talking a lot about
like metaphysical practices, but sometimes you can't just jump into those things
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without fully understanding what you're jumping into, right?
Because you could run into something that's not the best for you either.
So I just want to kind of bring balance to that conversation,
but still at the same time, like help people elevate their consciousness,
help people elevate their mind and kind of tap into the magic of the universe.
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That's beautiful. As always, right? That's awesome. The only thing that I need
to add to that is just to say, hey, if you didn't get a chance to write that
down, or if you're driving, don't worry.
We're going to make sure to post how to contact Yumi and her bio,
you know, with her episode as well. So again, Jimmy, thank you so much for sharing
so much of yourself, your story, being vulnerable and embracing that.
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And hey, for those of you listening, I hope we help somebody to say,
hey, that makes sense. That's me.
Feel a little bit more comfortable in your own skin and make the day a little
bit better. And that's a win for all. So have a great day.
Thank you for having me on the show, Graham. I really appreciate it.
Well, thank you, listeners. Welcome to another edition of Understanding the
Science of You, where we are focused on having real conversations to help you
break out of the molds that are holding you back and build bridges to your most productive self.
And we have the pleasure today of being joined by Jumi.
And Jumi, I don't know your last name. By the way, is that like a thing with
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podcasts, to only give a first name is to do a first and last,
because maybe somebody doesn't want people finding them?
Actually, that wasn't part of my intro, but I randomly had that thought as I
realized that I don't know your last name. And do you want to share that or what is the protocol?
Yeah, no, I definitely share my last name on the podcast. So it's Jumi Moses.
My last name is Moses. Very easy.
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That's right. Actually, I take that back. When she said that,
I went, oh, yeah, Moses. Now I feel bad. Okay.
So the reason that I'm really excited to talk with, with Jumi here today is
because she's, I don't know if the right term is a great conversationalist,
but she had me on her podcast and I knew the topics that she wanted to kind
of cover talking with you and watching the way that you navigated the conversation
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and the way that you set up points and broke them up.
Right. I was very impressed and fascinated by the way that you wove that conversation together.
Other and I felt like it turned out to be so
much of a better quality conversation than what I was expecting way more
comfortable and everything else and so I thought all right
I know you're an interesting story but when someone's wheels
like that are able to turn I know there's a lot more behind the scenes and so
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I was like all right there's a lot more to her now that I've kind of talked
to let the listeners know you know but that set the expectations high for you
know how you're going to impress them, you know, everything you're throughout this conversation,
share a little bit about your background, you know, whatever you're comfortable with.
Yeah, of course. Graham, I just want to thank you for inviting me on your show
and thank you for that amazing compliment.
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That warms my heart because, you know, when I have people come on my show,
I want them to feel comfortable and I want to get the best out of the conversation.
So I'm happy that you got to have that experience. As it pertains to me, my name is Jumi Moses.
I am the host of a podcast called Shifting Dimensions.
But outside of that, I work in a regular nine to five job in marketing for a
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tech company. So that's kind of what I do on the side.
I came to the U.S. with my family when I was about seven years old.
So I've been in the country now for 20 plus years.
And it has been been a remarkable journey, to say the least.
My dad sort of made the decision to bring all of us here, not because we weren't
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comfortable back home, but he just kind of wanted us really be immersed in a
society where we could pursue our dreams,
our passions, especially pertaining to education.
Education was a big thing for him. So he kind of like really drove that point home.
And my dad is a very deep philosophical thinker. And I think I picked up a lot
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of those skills and interests from him as well.
So really and truly, you know, I'm the oldest of four.
Daughters and there's been a lot of pressure put on me culturally,
not in a bad way, but sometimes in a way where I've had to silence my own intuition
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and gut, you know, in terms of like following my own authentic blueprint, right?
Because I have this thing where I have to set a good example for my sisters
and I have to make sure that I don't basically use my parents'
sacrifice from leaving everything back home and coming to a new country and
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basically squandering that sacrifice and not living up to their great expectations.
So that's something that has always been on my shoulders.
And growing up in that environment, I was a good daughter and I was a good sister,
but I was not always good to myself in the sense of, again, not listening to my own intuition,
not listening to my own voice, not pursuing my own passions.
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I mean, I went to school for engineering.
I got my undergrad in engineering, which I appreciate the knowledge.
Absolutely. But if I was honoring myself, I probably would have gone into communications
or psychology, something that spoke more deeply to me.
So really and truly, I've just been on this journey.
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Of self-actualization, trying to find myself, trying to come to terms with my
desires and my interests and my wants,
and really making sure that I'm now creating a life that aligns with me instead
of trying to live a life that was created for me, right?
And that can be hard sometimes, and I'm still trying to find the balance,
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but every single day I put one foot in front of the other.
And that's kind of what led me down the path of, you know, really starting Shifting dimensions.
Shifting dimensions was me kind of stepping into the unapologetic,
courageous version of myself who's like, hey, I have these interests in the
metaphysical and whether or not people think it's weird or crazy,
I'm going to go down this path because this is what's calling to me.
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So that's just a little bit about me.
It's really just been a journey of accepting who I am and trying to live my
life more authentically and more aligned with who I am as a person.
So there's a lot that I could unpack in a, we'll call it a therapy session between
the pressure, right? Don't squander opportunity, right?
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And then the feeling blessed with it being given to you as well.
Anyway, there's a lot for anyone to unpack and how to understand and how to
not let that pressure consume, I would imagine.
So before we go down that path, can you say back home? What was back home?
I realized I didn't mention that as you were talking. Nigeria.
Nigeria was back home. And we lived a very comfortable life back home.
So So coming here was like a culture shock for me, really and truly,
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especially as it pertains to differences when it comes to race.
I mean, back home, you know, everyone is black, basically.
But coming here and seeing different race or different colors of people, I wasn't shook by that.
Right. I didn't care. I was like, oh, that's really cool. Like,
I didn't really see people for color. And I know that sounds so cliche,
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but it's the truth. I really didn't.
I could tell they were different from me in terms of what they look like.
Like, but I didn't hyper focus on their skin tone, but like coming into a culture
where that's the main narrative when it comes to someone's outward appearance, right?
And like the first thing people see when they see someone is like what their
color is or what their race is.
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So that was like a culture shock for me as well.
So trying to assimilate into a society where that was such a big thing was also
something thing that kind of led me down the path of, you know,
thinking more deeply about interpersonal.
Relationships and just kind of how we relate to one another and how that affects
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how we're able to show up as ourselves authentically in this world.
Wow. So you very casually just kind of described that your world did a 180 and
then you had to kind of refigure things out.
Yes. And again, at seven years old.
At seven years old, at this point in time at seven, you know,
most kids are, hey, I'm learning how to run properly, right?
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Without falling over every time I do things and not how to be clumsy, right?
And here you are learning how to acclimate into a whole new culture.
And by the way, that was a beautiful story about your parents and your dad making
the sacrifice to open up opportunities, right?
I mean, that's such a beautiful sentiment. Anyway, so I just always want to
acknowledge that, that you had said that and give him this, you know, kudos.
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That's just phenomenal. Thank you. And so, all right, so now,
wow, there's so much that we can go into.
For me, I grew up in Michigan, in the United States, the majority of my life, 98% of the years.
So I recognize that when I go to different states, some slang is different,
right? There's different accents, things of that nature, right?
But then some perspectives can be different.
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But I've never actually spent more than a vacation, which is never a real immersion, right?
And so it's really easy to think like,
oh, well, everybody just thinks this way, or everybody kind of experienced it
this way or everyone views things this way right and so i
think that there's a lot of value especially in this conversation when we
talk about building bridges right and just understanding how those differences are
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and also just how much those differences get rooted into us from such a young
age for that matter right when we're so young and impressionable before we even
realize it right before we've been cognizant of making our own choices of our
kind of our own beliefs they're kind of placed onto us for lack of until we
are able to kind of navigate get them in our own way.
And so let's talk about some advantages that it's provided you from having that
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dual reference points of life to operate with compared to only one reference point. Yeah.
So some advantages of that is, you know, I've always been someone that was really
good at seeing different perspectives, right?
So, you know, most times people have what they believe, they have their opinion and they stick by it.
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And they can't really see any other perspective or any other sort of opinion on the matter.
But I've always been really good at seeing both sides to a story.
And I think having that experience being,
you know, Nigerian, living in Nigeria, and even coming to this country and still
very much being connected to a pretty large Nigerian community here,
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and then also assimilating into American culture in general,
I was really able to see multiple perspectives, right?
So I never really took a lot of things personal, right?
Because, again, I talk about race and racism, it's such a big topic,
but that's just one example, right?
Where I never let myself overthink the fact that, oh, okay, I'm a Black person in America, Right.
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Because understanding where I come from and that not necessarily being a thing.
So I was able to kind of not.
What's the word, internalize, oh, I'm a Black person in America and the challenges that come with that.
But on the other hand, I was still able to understand why a lot of people,
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a lot of Black people in America would have that internalized racism or have
certain views on how they're being treated in this country just because that's
their experience, right?
So I would say that was like one huge advantage.
Another huge advantage was really understanding that so many different cultures
have so much to offer and so much to give.
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So I found myself being so interested in different types of cultures.
I remember getting close to kids like myself, but they had come from Korea or
maybe they've come from Vietnam and becoming best friends with them because
I was able to relate with them as well and really appreciate and understand their culture.
So that was another advantage of having that sort of dual perspective where
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it's like, okay, I'm just not in a bubble anymore.
I'm in a society now where it's multicultural.
It's not just like one sort of, you know, culture or group of people.
Now I'm around different groups of people and I'm able to assimilate and get
to know all of these different people and find similarities and find differences and honor differences.
And just, it just made me really appreciate the diversity of humanity, right?
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So that's like one huge advantage that I'm I'm eternally grateful for.
What I wrote down was you received a beautiful lesson in how understanding leads to acceptance. Yes.
Absolutely. I mean, a thing that's really stuck out to me was by you taking
the time to understand other people, other situations,
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other circumstances, and being able to walk through both in different shoes
as well, you know, is hugely helpful.
And then as a result of that, like you can go, I understand how this person
can come now comes across angry, but I also understand why this person is rightfully
to be angry. Absolutely.
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Right. And as a result of that, I understand why it's important that I just
that I first need to hear that.
Yes. Before anything else can occur.
Right. This person needs to get heard. And then from there, we can have a conversation.
But until somebody is willing to acknowledge that there is a different perspective, a different reality,
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a different dimension of reality than the one that they live in based on their
own experiences in life, until that can happen, it's really hard to get acceptance.
Otherwise, you're just trying to get conformity or force everybody to understand
your way. Right, right. Absolutely.
And I think we can look around and say, that doesn't seem to be going so good. Mm-hmm.
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Not at all. Yeah, I agree with you. I think you summed that up perfectly.
That's exactly how I would sum it up is just understanding people's differences
has allowed me to stretch my compassion and my empathy for people.
And I see myself in a lot of people, to be quite honest.
So, you know, people always say that we're mirrors of each other.
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And I think that's the truth, really. we come from different cultures.
We have different backgrounds.
We look different from one another, but we.
Whenever you sit down and you talk to someone and you just allow yourself to
get lost in someone else's story, there's so many things that you can pick up
from that story that you can identify and relate to, right?
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So that's just the beautiful thing, or at least that's what I consider to be
extremely beautiful about just trying to deeply understand people without coming
from a point of even trying to analyze it.
Like you said, if I'm across someone who's angry, I'm not sitting there trying
to analyze why they're angry.
I want to hear them, right? I just kind of want to immerse myself in that experience,
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almost kind of put myself in their shoes in a figurative sense.
And I'm like, okay, I see what the issue is.
There's a part of you that is not able to fully express yourself, right?
You feel like you're being held down in some way.
I can relate to being held down, right?
Even though I don't look like you, I can relate to being held down.
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I can relate to being misunderstood.
I could relate to being let down, right? So yeah, I think how you said it just
sums it up perfectly, to be honest.
But I'm hoping that I'm seeing a reflection of my future self and the ability
to so easily articulate and put new thoughts together in the sentences the way that you do.
Thank you. If we're going to learn about reflections here. So now we're going
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to also allow you to be relatable here with squandering opportunity.
I think anybody who's had a parent make any sort of sacrifice to them deals
with some element of that pressure, whether it was applied by the parent or not.
They just kind of feel it. All for good reasons, right?
And so now there's the humorous side of me. My head as I say this, I go, oh. So exactly.
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So your dad must have been ecstatic when you were like, this engineering degree
and stuff. I know it's cool and look good on the wall and all. But you know what?
I'm just going to go do a podcast. Yeah.
Well, you know what? The story went a little bit different than that.
I will credit my parents for being, in terms of being African parents,
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Nigerian parents, they're kind of a little bit more on the liberal side of things
in the sense of they're flexible in their thought.
I've seen them evolve in thought over the years. They're not like sticklers for a certain rule.
And I think my parents know who I am. Your parents kind of know your gifts.
They know the things that come natural to you.
So I've had conversations with my dad now and I'm the first daughter. I'm the first child.
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So I'm kind of a guinea pig for a lot of things. And looking back when it comes
to you have to major in engineering, you either have to be a doctor or a lawyer.
Career, those things aren't coming from a bad place, right?
It's not like my parents are trying to control my life or force me down a certain path.
They just want the best for me and they want to guarantee success for my life, right?
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Because those jobs are known for being high paying, they come with a lot of
accolades, so on and so forth.
But when I got out of engineering school, I think by that time,
my dad kind of understood that this was just not a passion of mine, right? Right.
So I kind of had the freedom to kind of pivot and kind of explore other areas of interest.
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And one of those interests was marketing. So I kind of got into the marketing space.
So that was like the first pivot. I didn't start my podcast until 2020 and I
graduated from college in 2016. So it was about four years.
My parents are very excited for me to start my podcast because they know the
things that I'm excited to talk about. out. They know I'm a deep thinker.
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They know I love curating thought-provoking conversations.
So they were very excited for me. And it was during the COVID pandemic.
So that was a time where everybody was home. So there was a little bit extra
time to kind of pour into hobbies, right?
So that was just kind of like the journey of it. So I will say that my parents were very gracious.
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They never once forced me to work in engineering.
I took a different path in terms of of the corporate world and I'm still very
much in corporate, but podcasting, it's more of a hobby labor of love, like my true passion.
And they're very, very supportive of that. And the first podcast I started was A Word to the Wise.
So actually not shifting dimensions and A Word to the Wise focused on mind, body, spirit.
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So we talked about mental health. We might also talk about romantic relationships
and then also like finance or something.
And I would sprinkle in the metaphysical stuff, but I was still very afraid
to go full throttle on that because I grew up Christian, right?
I grew up Catholic and a lot of my friends and family are very into the church.
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So a lot of the questions that I had, I was kind of afraid to kind of.
Really allow myself to go down the rabbit hole in that way via a podcast,
because I didn't want to be judged, right?
I didn't want to be considered, I don't want to be dramatic,
like a devil worshiper or promoting evil things, right?
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Because anything that goes outside of the realm of the Bible or what people
consider to be Christianity, people kind of freak out about that.
So I had a fear of it. So I was still kind of in the closet,
right? Like I would talk about human design on A Word to the Wise.
I might talk about numerology. I might talk to psychics here and there,
but I didn't talk about aliens, for example, right? I didn't talk about aliens.
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I wouldn't talk about just other things that people might misconstrue, right?
So eventually last year, I was kind of doing some work with my cousin who was
also in the podcast space.
And he asked me the question, He's like, you know, you've been doing this for four years now.
What's the next thing for you? Like, what calls to your heart?
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Like, what episodes do you do that, you know, that light you up?
And I was like, well, I like everything I do.
And he was like, yeah, but like, what do you do that feels like breathing for you?
And I was like, well, I just, I feel like I'm in heaven.
Like I'm in a trance whenever I'm talking to people about more metaphysical
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concepts and I'm able able to ask questions about the Bible and go a little bit deeper.
When I'm just able to have those types of conversations, I absolutely love it.
And he was like, well, that's what you need to be doing. You need to double down on that.
And as soon as he said that, there was something in my heart that just kept pushing me.
I've been feeling the whispers, but the whispers intensified.
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I feel like my spirit guides were like, you need to double down on talking about spirituality.
You You need to double down on the metaphysics. You need to double down on all
the stuff that you're super interested in, but afraid to kind of go full throttle on.
So that's how the idea of shifting dimensions came into play.
And it took a while for me to tell my parents. I was still very scared.
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I kind of started it on a hush-hush type of level where I didn't really tell
them that I was doing the podcast, even though they're super supportive about my other podcasts.
I didn't know how they were going to receive this podcast, right?
So I just recently actually told them. I know you and Sunshine asked me this
on the podcast, and I think I had said I hadn't told them yet.
Well, I have told them about the podcast.
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I gave them the full rundown, the whole scope, and they're so supportive.
They're super, super supportive. They're so happy for me.
They know that this is my true heart's calling. And that support just kind of like opened the.
Energetic doors for me, right? I just kind of felt this pressure valve release
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where I was like, okay, if my parents accept me and they're going to allow me to be myself,
then I can really do this. I can really trust in myself.
I can really trust in what calls to me.
And I can just kind of go in on this all guns blazing.
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So yes, they were supportive in a long-winded way no no no there's so you touched
on a lot of important things the one that i want to pull out of it though is
i think this is an important thing because,
for you talk about intuition right and and this is part of the thing i think
with you know helping people understand themselves is that generally speaking
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most of us don't go to school to learn how to understand what our body's talking
to us right and so sometimes you know based all we're left with is what we see
on TV or read about something way different than the way it really actually is.
And so when you say feel the whispers, how do you know that you're feeling the whispers?
How would you just say to somebody, no, no, no, that's feeling the whispers. Don't blow that off.
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Don't just think that that's, you know, a random passing or doubt yourself.
Yeah. You know, that's a great question. And I think it probably is different
for everyone, one, right?
But I know for me, especially when it comes to the realm of like,
you know, podcasting, what I'm doing now, it's an obsessive thought.
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It just, the thought just doesn't leave me. It just keeps intensifying, keeps intensifying.
And I think the universe starts putting people in my path that want to talk
about those things, right?
Or I start coming across people who are doing what I want to do.
So it's kind of like a double down on that. And I will say it's a whisper,
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the whispers, cause not, it's not always intense with an obsessive thought,
but the whispers feel, what's the best way to put it in?
You know, when you take a deep breath and you release, right?
Like the whispers feel like that. Like when I get a thought or something that's
put into my head or I hear a voice or something, it feels like some sort of
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release. It just feels right.
And if I don't overthink it. And so as you're talking, I want to distinguish
for people the difference between what you're describing versus like manic or manic energy or OCD.
Yes, of course. How would you say to somebody and like even for yourself, right?
How do you self-guide to know the difference between this is me walking on the
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path that I'm supposed to versus me just being OCD and manipulating it in my
head and thinking like, oh, my God, all this stuff is happening. Right.
That is a great question. Okay. So I think the best way to distinguish between both of them, right?
I feel like the stuff that could be OCD or like, we all have like impulsive feelings, right?
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Where we, if someone makes you sad, for example, let's take OCD out of it.
If someone makes you sad, some people might run to food, right?
Like we all have like our coping mechanisms that we just have to do in order to feel okay.
I would say that like those feelings, I'm craving a sense of balance,
right? I'm craving a sense of safety.
I'm craving some sort of security. Like I don't feel like myself.
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What I'm talking about is more of a feeling that feels like I'm breathing.
Let's say I wanted to pursue music, for example, right? But I was scared what my friends would think.
But whenever I have the thought about singing or whenever I have the the thought
about writing music, I get happy.
I feel like I can breathe. It feels like I'm not holding my breath, right?
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It feels like I get the opportunity to just exist as I am, right?
So there's a peace and there's an alignment that comes with it versus the other
sort of like obsessive thought is more of a need for balance,
is more of a need for security, right?
It's more of a need of like, I'm not feeling safe right now, right?
Whereas the other one just feels more like You know, when you go to work and
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you have on like a suit and you're not really comfortable, but when you come
home, you can just kind of like be yourself, take off your clothes and kind of chill on the couch.
That's what that other feeling gives me. Right. Like, oh, I can relax.
I no longer have to pretend. Right. I can be myself. Right.
And so there's that feeling and I want to provide like a KPI to self-govern
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with. Yes. Like some people would call it synchronicities.
Some people would say like they see their life goals progressing.
What are some of like the external factors that you use around you to say,
okay, the way that I separate being on my path from OCD is I also see the world
shaping itself to support me.
Or somebody can be like, I'm seeing patterns everywhere.
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Well, there's random patterns seeing everywhere. And then they're seeing patterns
with a purpose that are meeting the places. Absolutely.
Right. So I guess how would you kind of, in your words, describe how you use,
you know, material things to keep you grounded, but also that by using the material
things to also validate your belief?
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That's a that's a phenomenal question, you know, just to kind of double down on what you're saying.
Like whenever I'm following sort of like impulsive actions and I don't feel,
I feel dysregulated in my body and I'm like doing things that aren't aligned,
I don't really have peace.
There's no sense of, I don't necessarily feel like I'm on the right path, right?
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And that might manifest in the sense of like, maybe if I decide to drink a lot
of soda because I'm feeling anxious and I'm like going to food,
like my skin starts to look a little bit off, right?
Or my relationships might start to suffer, or I might have this feeling where
I don't want to go out as much.
So it kind of is not making me a better version of myself.
But when I'm on the right path, I always say to people, I had someone ask me
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recently, they're like, would you consider yourself a lucky person?
And I said, that's interesting. That's a good question. I would say that whenever
I listen to my intuition and I am in flow with the blueprint of my life,
doors fly open for me.
Opportunities like fall from the sky for me. I see a lot of like repeating numbers.
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I see a lot of angel numbers and I'm being ushered and guided.
Every single time I say a yes to the universe.
Every single time I'm like, okay, I'm going to step into the universe.
The path that I'm supposed to be on. I can give you one example.
So I remember recently, I had this thought.
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I was like, you know what? I live in the DMV area, in the DC metropolitan area.
And I was like, I want to go to more podcast networking mixers.
I don't really see that much in DC.
I would love to go to more of those. And literally two days later,
I get an email from Podcast Movement, which I think is affiliated with Buzzsprout.
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And they were like, hey, we're going to be in DC, like come out,
you know, and to this mixer.
And then, you know, I keep going through all of the links in the email.
And there's another link in the email that talks about this huge conference that's happening.
And there are different tiers of the tickets. And like the first tier,
of course, I look at it and it's like almost $400.
And I was like, oh, this would be really tight for my budget right now, but I would love to go.
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And I just had this like funny thought of like, I wish I could just go for free. Right.
So anyways, I have that thought. I leave it alone.
I go to the networking event. It's amazing. I connect with all these amazing people.
And at the networking event, they gave us a card with a QR code.
And they basically said that if you scan it, you get to come to the conference for free.
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So it was like the most rapid manifestation I've ever experienced.
And since I started Shifting Dimensions, I've had a ton of experiences like
that with just positive reinforcement.
But before you were able to realize this positive reinforcement,
you had to take that first step. Yes.
And there's always the fear of the unknown, the fear of the uncertainty,
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that first step. So walk me through...
What was kind of going through your head? Like, this is my fear.
This is what's going to happen. Oh boy, this happens.
How am I going to, and then how did that then compared to what really actually happened?
Yeah. So, you know, to your point, I think when we're being called to step into alignment, right?
You're right. There is fear there, but even before we get the positive reinforcement
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from the universe, we actually have to do some personal internal work, right?
So So it's been four years of me doing a different podcast, battling with pushing
the needle a little bit more, right?
So I had to mentally get to a point where if this is my life and I'm the author
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and creator of my life, right, what do I have to lose, right?
I could step into this thing that feels like alignment for me.
And if it doesn't work out, at least I know that it didn't work out.
Like, but I will never know if I never try.
Right. And that sounds so simple, but I had to get myself there first because
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sometimes it's a hobby, it's an interest, but there's quote unquote,
no, no real positive reinforcement until you take the step.
And sometimes even that positive reinforcement doesn't come for a couple of
weeks or a couple of months. Right.
So in between that time, you just have to get to a point where you're mentally
like, you know what, I'm just going to do this thing.
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And I tell spirit, I had a conversation with spirit. I was like,
OK, I'm going to start this thing.
But if you're telling me that this is where I need to be, you keep making it louder.
You've you've done a lot of work on me. I've released a lot of shadow.
If you're telling me that this is where I need to step into,
you've been prepping me for this my whole life. I've had the same interest my
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whole life. You've intensified it.
I need you to make things happen.
You could talk to the universe. You could talk to your spirit guides.
You could talk to God, whatever that force is that's within you and whatever
you connect with as well.
And I had that conversation and I kind of just went into it full throttle and
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I reached out to someone that I thought would be difficult to get on the podcast.
I mean, I didn't have any sort of episodes lined up, I reached out to this guest and I said.
Hey, I listened to you on this other podcast. I would love to have you on my
podcast. I just started it. I have another podcast, but this is brand new.
I would love to have you on. And I, you know, shoot my shot and shot my shot, I should say.
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And they responded, they came on the podcast and that podcast had this,
this, that was my first sort of pseudo viral podcast episode I've ever had. right?
I have about 13,000 views on YouTube, right?
And to me, that was like spirit. That was the universe telling me,
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yeah, you're on the right path.
You asked us to show you, you asked for a sign.
So here it is, right? And when you're on the right path, things are easier for
you. Life isn't easy, right?
But when you're flowing or when you're riding in the current that you're supposed
to be riding on, you're not going against the current, doors and opportunities
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will open a lot faster for you.
I mean, like I said, the other podcast I had was amazing, but the alignment
on shifting dimensions is so drastic.
The success I've seen on shifting dimensions and within the four and a half months I've had it is,
is drastically different from the success I've been trying to get to with the
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word to the wise for over four years. So I hope that answered your question.
I think it's like, again, just to kind of summarize, it starts with you.
You have to believe in yourself. You have to overcome that fear.
And once you're like, you know what, I'm going to step into it,
you can ask the universe to give you additional signs.
Like if this is what you want me to do, then you need to not say make it worth
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my while, but you need to show me that I'm on the right path.
And whatever that looks like to you will be what manifests. us.
So since you opened the door on that, I'm going to go down this path. Okay.
It's in line with the original framework. Yeah, of course.
And that is knowing how to talk to the universe or talk to spirit or talk to
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whatever, or guides, right?
Like, and I appreciate the way that you were like, look, whatever it is,
that's up to you, you know, but you, you touched on something that my experience
has been that it's critically important if you want to be supported by whoever
whoever it is you're talking to, is two things.
One is that what you're asking to be supported on is in line with what you're
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supposed to be doing during this lifetime.
That's one key. But the other part is specificity.
Simplicity and specificity. I had to learn that it's like talking to a chatbot.
The ability to infer or to interpret or to apply their own personal bias into
a set of facts, that's not going to work.
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You got to be able to explain what you need to a chat bot to be able to get
help succinctly. Did that come naturally to you? How did you figure that out?
And based on that, what advice would you give listeners to help them get better
responses when they're asking for it?
That's a great question because I will candidly say that I'm still figuring that out, right?
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Because I'm someone, it works for me in terms of my creativity, right?
Because I'm not like a rigid thinker. So I'm very like open-minded and open-ended with a lot of asks.
I used to be the type of person where I'm like, you know, spirit,
I want $1,000, but give me whatever you think I need, right?
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Right. So I've always been that person.
And I've recently over the years, like to your point, realized the more specific
I am, the quicker manifestations come to me. Right.
So, for example, the apartment that I'm sitting in right now,
I was very specific about what I wanted, what I wanted to pay.
And it came really quickly. So I do think that you're absolutely right.
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You need to be specific, keep it as simple as possible, and then it comes right to you.
And to your point, I'm still working on it, right? Because like I said at the
beginning, I spent so much of my years living for other people,
right? So I have two voices in my head all the time.
The one that is my voice and what I want, and then society's voice,
society's expectations, right?
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So whenever I'm asking for something, I find myself still trying to merge society's
expectations into my ask.
So it's kind of like all over the place.
But like I said, I'm getting much better and better. But when it comes to kind
of asking the universe for a sign, so when it, for the podcast,
I didn't really ask for something specific, right?
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Because obviously I want to grow the podcast.
I want my conversations to have positive impact on the audience that,
you know, it's reaching and I want it to reach the right audience.
That's a given fact. But with this one, I kind of wanted the universe to surprise me, right?
Because I was stepping into an unknown path, wasn't sure what was going to happen.
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So I kind of made it open-ended because I didn't want to be hyper-focused on
the numbers, right? Right. So maybe the universe might show me in a different
way where it's like I get to talk to someone I never dreamed of talking to before.
Or maybe somebody might reach out to me that, you know, helps me get to the next level.
I wasn't really sure what it is, but the deeper I go into the journey,
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the more I know exactly what I want.
Right. So, for example, when I was
like, oh, I would want to go to more networking mixers in the D.C. area.
That was extremely specific. And the universe delivered just like that.
Right. when I was like, I want to go to the podcast conference,
but I don't have the funds for that.
I would love to go to this for free. The universe delivered.
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You're not giving yourself enough credit for this, at least in my humble opinion.
I'm inserting my opinion here, so if you don't mind.
The part I don't think you give yourself credit for, though,
is that what you're asking for,
are the things that are in line with personal, I don't know,
personal development, the development of a consciousness, the development of
a soul, whatever else, right?
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And I want to distinguish that, right? Because a lot of people,
I ask for stuff and I don't get what I, I don't get anything that I'm asking for.
Well, you know, universe gets a bad rap here. Spirit gets a bad rap.
I'm trying to speak up for them a little bit by saying that you're not out there
asking spirit to give you the latest pair of designer jeans or something or
designer clothes to show up at your doorstep.
You're not asking spirit to have that girl who took your boyfriend in the eighth
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grade from the dance to go get hit by a bus, right?
Like, I think it's really important to understand, right?
Like, what you're talking about is about making yourself a better human being. Yeah.
Right? And that's a really critical distinction when you're talking about asking
for things. Like, who is this serving?
And if it serves me, then who does it serve, right? Right.
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Because while you're getting served, you're using it to try and serve others. Yes.
Right. So I think you're really underselling the.
You're right. What do you want to call the vibrate, the vibration or the frequency
that you're operating in, you know, in keeping all of that flowing in harmony.
And so therefore, it's easy to get support because you're asking about the stuff
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that matters. Anyway, anyway, it's beautiful.
Yeah. No, I just want to, like, piggyback on what you're saying, too.
Right. I think manifestation works in different ways. There's some stuff that
we need from a practical perspective.
I needed this apartment, right? So in a way, this is directly serving me.
I guess you could say it's serving others because I get to podcast from this
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location, but there are different types of things we manifest. But you're right.
I saw someone say, I think it was a quote on Instagram, that when you're trying
to manifest something that is not just in line with your sole purpose,
but is in line with the greater good, the greater consciousness,
that those things tend to come to you faster, right?
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And I truly believe that I'm a servant.
And when I said, you know, at the beginning that a lot of the thoughts I would
have about my podcast were, they weren't manic thoughts because I could choose
to just ignore them, right?
I could just choose not to do the podcast, but like, it's this intense, intense.
This feeling, it's less a thought, but more of a feeling like this is what I need to do.
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Like if I was coming into this earth and I wrote a contract of like,
how do I want to serve humanity?
What do I want to do? And that continues to unfold. And I'm sure that's going
to take different shapes as I get older and like advance in my career as a podcaster.
But I feel like if there was a contract that I wrote down, this was part of my contract, right?
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Like I've been getting these whispers throughout my life.
I didn't know what it was until like I discovered the medium of podcasting,
but it's just kind of this like intense, I don't want to call it a burden because
that's what it feels like.
It feels like if I, if I'm not doing this, then I'm not in service to people.
Right. And that's why I always tell spirit.
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I'm always like, you know, let the audience that this is going to impact,
let them find my content.
Right. Cause it's not about, being well-recognized. It's not about having this
extremely popular podcast.
It's like these things speak to my heart in a way where it's like,
if people can hear this, maybe it will open their mind.
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Maybe it will shift, no pun intended, shift their perspective, right?
Or transport them into a new way of thinking, into a new reality.
So it feels like a burden that I need to carry out, Right.
But burden sounds negative, but it just it's this weight on me that it feels like an assignment.
That's the best way to put it. So in that regard, I feel like I'm working with
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the universe to manifest something that goes beyond me really and truly.
I might be the vessel and the people I come across
with are part of my soul family to help me but it
feels like this manifestation is beyond me or what's good for me it it feels
like a collective thing you know to your point and maybe that's part of why
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doors are opening and opportunities are being manifested a lot faster so tell
me if you agree with this is.
Accepting responsibility and accountability can feel like a burden.
Yeah. You know, it does carry the weight on shoulders, right?
Based on our prior conversations, right? We both, you know, have an affinity
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for what I refer to as the real Jesus and the teachings.
And look, you never claim, hey, just do what I say. And I'll say,
everything's going to come out easy. No problem.
No, no, no. It was more about like, hey, it's a perspective.
It's a state of mind. It's an understanding. it's recognizing that things
are happening for you versus to you right all of that kind
of stuff yes yes yeah so yeah go ahead no yeah i agree with you i mean i i've
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had moments because like i said i was in a state of deep fear right because
again you know when i think about it and people listen to this podcast might
be thinking it's not a big deal that you're talking about aliens or.
Ghosts or you know i'm i have i just recently talked to a woman who identifies
as a christian witch, right?
And from my background, there's so much fear about being judged just for having
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that conversation, which I don't think it's a big deal because I mean,
I did it anyways, but there's a part of me that just has that fear.
And I'm going to continue to go deeper and have conversations with different
people and people who a lot of religious people might think are heretical, right?
And sometimes, like I said, I feel it more like a burden rather than like an
obsessive of thought if I really think deeper about it.
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And I've had moments where I'm like, do I have to do this?
Couldn't you give me something else? Couldn't you give me a different purpose?
I keep using the word purpose because that's what it feels like.
It feels like a purpose, but to your point, sometimes it does feel like a burden.
And I have talked to spirit, why did it have to be this?
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And I know that sounds dramatic, right? Because I don't genuinely feel like
I'm doing something wrong, but maybe because I still need to deprogram a lot
of things. But it's just that...
I wish it was something else I was obsessed with. Well, look, I mean, let's be real.
I mean, we just found another podcast episode talking just about how emotions
are more addictive and more harmful than drugs.
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They literally are. And so to your point, like, it doesn't matter if it's logical,
right? Feelings are feelings, right?
And not wanting to feel a certain way or wanting to feel a certain way, right?
Like, yeah, they absolutely influence things. For whatever reason,
I'm getting pinged to kind of go back to, by the way, if you don't mind me asking,
what was it about this apartment, why you wanted it?
What was it that it signified to you or what was it that it provided?
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When you say getting pinged, I'm just curious, do you feel like an intuitive
hit to come back to the question? Is that what you're talking about?
Yeah, that sounds a little bit what I'm alluding to.
I try to water it down. Yeah. No, see, that's the thing.
I want us to get to a point where we don't have to water anything down.
And I'm just talking about in general, right?
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I still find myself trying to be like, when you were talking about people will
say, oh, this is the woo-woo, or I'm not trying to sound crazy because we're
afraid that people are going to think that we sound crazy.
It's that trying to constantly make people feel comfortable, right?
So anyways, that's just a side comment. But I wanted this apartment at a time
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in my life where I was kind of, you know, leaving a relationship and I wanted
to live in this particular building.
I didn't know about this apartment unit specifically, but I didn't want to move
to a different place. Right.
And so even though I had locked down a different place, this was just something
that was just like calling to me.
This is like my my comfort zone, really and truly.
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So that's kind of where that.
The special part about the
apartment came into even though i'm at a point now where i do kind of
want to have a different experience and move away from this apartment
but at that time in my life this was just the place where i needed to be right
what's the comfort zone what makes it a comfort zone if you don't mind me asking
outside of the aesthetics like i live really close to trees so there are a lot
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of trees around me i'm close to the city but not in the city so like that exclusion is nice.
And also this was like my first apartment that I really like owned by myself, right?
So this was the first time I would be stepping out of my own zone.
And when I got the apartment, I just had this idea of like going into a cocoon,
not to be dramatic, but like going into a cocoon because I knew that this space
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was going to kind of, I would be shedding a lot, right?
Like I was going to be figuratively in the dark.
And I got this apartment before I, right? You know, 2020 and all that stuff.
So I knew that this space was going to be like a shedding, a deprogramming,
like coming out of the shadow sort of thing.
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So that's the symbolism that I tied to this apartment.
It was like my cocoon at some point. I'm out of the cocoon now,
even though I'm still like in the apartment, but that's what it symbolizes for me.
Butterflies come, you know, still come back to the branch that their cocoon was on, right?
It's, you know, so what I heard you describe, though, sounded very different
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than the universe just provided me just a practical solution because I needed a place to sleep.
It sounded to me like there was a heck of a lot more deep symbolism and support
being provided with this,
with the apartment and what it meant to you and what it allowed you to do and
being able to support you to be your best self on your journey. Yes.
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I mean I'm just an outsider just sharing a perspective.
You pulled that out that was great yeah I think you're spot on yeah,
There's a true genuineness and authenticity about you in like your curiosity
and your vulnerability and your answers that I just truly appreciate in our conversation.
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And so it's just, it's a rare thing to feel that coming through.
And so I really, you know, it's lifted me up. I had a, I've had a,
I've been in a funky spot today. And so I've appreciated being able to pull
some of the energy from you here on our call.
I want to kind of start to wrap this up and give you a chance though,
to talk about why people should reach out to you and listen to you.
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We talked about a lot of great stuff.
Thinking about the feels, right? Feeling in a trance, but it feels like heaven.
You love it. You feel the whispers. The door's unlocking for you.
It's being able to feel it in balance and at peace.
You know that your thoughts are true and on your path and they're leading to the best version of you.
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There's a lot of practical information that was described. I really appreciate
you being so open about, hey, this is kind of what I feel.
This is what I figured out. This is what I haven't. Because look,
it is all a work in progress.
I mean, by the way, don't we always kind of want it to be a work in progress?
Doesn't it kind of seem like it's a little anticlimactic to be like,
oh, you mean like we figured it out and then it's the end?
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It's nice that it's a work in progress. It's a lifelong thing, to be honest.
It's a lifelong thing. So I think I figured out so much, but then I get to a
point where I get another like aha moment. And I'm like, oh my gosh, what?
The more you know, the less you know. And that's the beautiful thing about this
journey. And that's why I just keep my mind open all the time.
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So speaking of you keep your mind open all the time, every time you keep your
mind open, I enjoy it. I enjoy our conversations.
And so now is when we have our opportunity to do our shameless plug,
right? So I tell people you're awesome, right? And then hopefully by now everybody agrees.
And so they want to keep up with you, right? You're going to be bringing up
these, and both on your journey as you uncover new things,
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And so, you know, who are the people that you'd say, hey, like,
if this kind of a thing resonates with you, hey, come give me a listen and here's where to find it.
Thank you so much for giving me the space to talk a little bit more about,
you know, shifting dimensions and why people should tune in.
So, you know, if you're like me, where you are curious about everything,
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especially as it pertains to this world that we live in, especially as it pertains
to the spirit part of ourselves, right?
Because I'm really big on spirituality and the unseen part of this world, right?
Like, I think like Terrence Howard said on the Joe Rogan podcast,
like, we're cosmically blind, right? And I think a lot of us live life in a very mundane way.
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We have the goals that we're supposed to hit.
We have the things that we're supposed to do. We have the belief systems that
we've been indoctrinated into that we're not supposed to question.
So if you're someone who is questioning things, right, you're not really sure
where things land for you as it pertains to Christianity, for example.
You're not really sure where things land for you as it pertains to reincarnation, right?
(50:26):
Or you just want something that you can hold onto that makes you feel like this
life is not just supposed to be like work and then one day you die, right?
If you are looking to connect to something that goes beyond...
Your physical existence, but it's still tied to it, you definitely want to tune
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into Shifting Dimensions.
Shifting Dimensions is just a space where, again, if there are any sort of questions
that you're too afraid to ask someone or dive deeper into,
you can come and secretly listen to the podcast if you need to,
or reach out to me if I'm still on my personal spiritual journey.
So if there are certain things that you're questioning that you want someone
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to talk about, reach out to shiftingdimensions444 at gmail.com.
And just send me an email asking me to maybe bring someone on the podcast to
talk about it. But yeah, it's just really a space.
My goal with Shifting Dimensions is to get people to shift their perspective
and open their consciousness just a little bit more and to release fear.
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I think there's a lot of fear mongering going on around when it comes to metaphysical
concepts and spiritual concepts.
You have people on one side saying, oh my God, this is devil worship. This is so evil.
And then you have other people on the other side who are talking a lot about
like metaphysical practices, but sometimes you can't just jump into those things
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without fully understanding what you're jumping into, right?
Because you could run into something that's not the best for you either.
So I just want to kind of bring balance to that conversation,
but still at the same time, like help people elevate their consciousness,
help people elevate their mind and kind of tap into the magic of the universe.
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That's beautiful. As always, right? That's awesome. The only thing that I need
to add to that is just to say, hey, if you didn't get a chance to write that
down, or if you're driving, don't worry.
We're going to make sure to post how to contact Yumi and her bio,
you know, with her episode as well. So again, Jimmy, thank you so much for sharing
so much of yourself, your story, being vulnerable and embracing that.
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And hey, for those of you listening, I hope we help somebody to say,
hey, that makes sense. That's me.
Feel a little bit more comfortable in your own skin and make the day a little
bit better. And that's a win for all. So have a great day.
Thank you for having me on the show, Graham. I really appreciate it.
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