Molly's Gemini Room: Erotic Empowerment Amid Chaos

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The Fresh King Benjamin [00:01.869]
So 1 ,491 days ago is when everyone inAmerica was told, there's a deadly virus.
It's going to kill all of us.
It'll probably be gone in two weeks.
Go inside and lock yourdoors and don't come out.
And then we all did thatfor like eight months.

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And that, I believe, was thebeginning of the apocalypse.
Molly [00:03.534]
you
Molly [00:23.949]
Interesting, but we didn't all do that.
Utah did that for like a month.
You're right, Utah.
Well, and I think the reason thatUtah only did it for a month is that
Utah was prepared for the apocalypse.
Like we had food storage, we'd beenpreaching about it for 200 years.

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We'd actually been looking forward toit because it would give some of our
bland and meaningless lives some color.
And so when it happened,
Molly [00:38.093]
-huh.
Molly [00:50.093]
We've been subconsciouslymaking it happen even probably.
Yeah, I imagine that we probablydid, and we thrive in those times.
Mormons are super good at surviving.

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I mean, we came to Utah in the 1800swhen this was just all a desert.
I mean, it still is a desert wasteland.
Molly [01:14.093]
Mm -hmm.
I love how like really the West is reallyhighly affiliated with cowboys, but we're
affiliated with Mormons, but our Mormonswere fucking like cutthroat cowboys.
So it's interesting.

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Oh, cutthroat cowboys.
Like I, I, I'm just dying forHBO to learn about Brigham Young.
Because if they learn about BrighamYoung, graphic, that's not House
of Dragons isn't your new Gameof Thrones, HBO, Brigham Young.
Or maybe just Young.

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That is your new game.
Oh, it could just be Youngbecause it's got the O in it.
And then you could have the little,the little Game of Thrones lines.
Molly [01:34.092]
Mm -hmm.
That's gonna be graphic.
Molly [01:44.844]
Yeah, that is your new game of thrones.
Yeah.
And I'd watched, I mean, becauseBrigham Young was gnarly.
That dude was intense.
Yeah, so so it's been 1491days since the apocalypse.

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Hi, everybody.
I'm the Fresh King Benjamin.
I'm your host of this podcast,Vibing the Apocalypse.
I am accidentally the one trueprophet of the apocalypse.
And so all of your apocalypse needsand questions can be answered by me.
Molly [01:58.955]
Oh yeah.
because I and I alone havethe bat's bone to God.

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And you should only listen to meas the one and only true prophet.
And today, I'm really excited for myguest because coming to you live from
the great state of Utah and the justreally hotbed of like lust and glamour,

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and wickedness that isSalt Lake City, Utah.
What my parents grew upcalling the Whore of Babylon.
We looked at Salt Lake City and wewere like, that is Babylon right there.
Molly the stripper, Molly,welcome to Vibing the Apocalypse.
Molly [03:00.458]
Hi, I'm Fresh King Benjamin,my sole prophet and guider.

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Thank you.
I love it.
I love it when people play the game.
Molly, I'm excited to have you on today.
And before we get into our hilariousand insightful conversation that we're
going to have that I imagine willactually probably heal people just from
the sounds of our voices, I want tojust tell everyone a little bit about

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how we met, because that's important towhat's going on in your life right now.
So we had been kind ofnot Facebook friends.
because we're younger than that.
We're Instagram friends,so we're hip and cool.
And you had posted somethingthat I thought was really

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funny, like on your stories.
And so I was like, I just laughed at it.
And then you saw that and you were like,oh, I need a comedian for an open, for
like a grand opening that you're doing.
Tell everyone about this grand openingthat you're doing in a couple of weeks.
Molly [04:14.344]
Alright so I'm doing a grand opening.
I bought a cabaret bar.

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Where do I start?
And for those of us, we'll start here.
For those of us that maybe don't knowwhat cabaret means, what is a cabaret bar?
Molly [04:30.312]
So you're about to get Molly's versionof this because I don't have an
extensive background in burlesque.
I don't have an extensivebackground in cabaret.
I am known for being Mollythe stripper for 10 years.

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That's been my persona.
I've worked at strip clubsmostly at one strip club.
So buying a cabaret.
You gotta go back a little.
I did a research and development trip.
last year.
I've been looking at buying astrip club or something in that
that wheelhouse for like years.
So I do a little research and developmentin New York and LA and I'm looking

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at the markets and I'm looking atthe clubs and I'm just curious about
what's going on in these cities.
They're typically 10 -20years ahead of us, right?
So I went to the famousJumbo's Clown Room in LA.
That was the one I was actually themost excited to go to and that was
the one I was the most impressed by.
And they're also considered, Ithink they're called a cabaret, but

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they're also listed as a strip club.
And I was kind of like, that's my vibe.
That's my jam, especially because I've hadopportunities to buy clubs that have what
people call the coveted SOB license, whichis a sexually oriented business license.
SOB is sexually oriented business.
Molly [05:45.]
Yeah, we could do anentire episode about SOBs.

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It's not whoever named thatdidn't also didn't know that
it was also son of a bitch.
Is that a is that a Utahthing or is that national?
Molly [05:51.08]
Son of a bitch.
Molly [05:55.43]
I believe that you have to have acertain type of sexual oriented business
in most states to operate any typeof strip club, but I could be wrong.
And we're working within a loophole,which is the same way Jumbo's clown room

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does, which is we have a special licenseand the only difference is, so all of
our rules and laws are the same as like atypical strip club in Utah with alcohol.
The only difference is, is that youcannot remove your top at this club.
So in essence, it's a glorifiedbikini bar, but so are all the bars.
Okay.
Molly [06:25.157]
that are strip clubs in Utah.
You know what I mean?
Like they're all veryrestricted on what they can do.

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You said bikini bar and as aUtah person, I hear strip club.
That is you're takingoff, you're in a bikini.
That is basically naked.
Molly [06:34.213]
good I love that because some peoplereally want to separate all of it they
want to be like this is a bikini barthis is a cabaret burlesque is not
stripping and like I'm not that bitchI'm like this is all same same different

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to me and and I get and respect thatburlesque has roots but I also know that
there's some antagonistic shit therewhere people are like I'm not a stripper
I'm a burlesque performer and I'm likebitch what do you think I do on stage?
I'm doing the same shit and in someways there's people in burlesque that
have skill levels that are way higherthan mine but a lot of times I know a

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lot of strippers whose skill level islike you know blowing these burlesque
dancers out of the water and not thatthere is a little apples and oranges
right like they're not exactly the samething but they are very fucking similar.
Yeah, and to be good at either requireslike a level of commitment and discipline
and rigor and like, intentionalpractice that it's weird that there's

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antagonism when it could just be fun.
It kind of reminds me of theway that like LDS Mormons
think about polygamist Mormons.
Like every group just needs anotherperson in kind of their same
category that they can shit on.
So the burlesque are justlike, we're not strippers.

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Strippers are like thecraziest, but we're burlesque.
Molly [07:53.253]
I had so fun.
Molly [08:00.677]
And strippers used to, and I'm not seeingthis as much now, but strippers used to be
like, I'm not an escort or a prostitute.
Like I'm a stripper and it's just,but there's a lot of, there's a
lot on this topic that's basically,you know, it's called the hierarchy
and it's just a lot of a lot.

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Yeah, I'm a stripper.
The Horarchy?
Oh my god, wait, pause!
The Horarchy?
You're not just gonna drop that!
Molly [08:24.77]
Yeah, it's very real and it's verybizarre and even early on in my
career I think I had I was you know,I came from a Mormon background.
So I'm used to a lot of group thinkanyways, but I also throughout my

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time as a Mormon was very outspokenabout things that like didn't track
for me or didn't resonate for me eventhough I continued to stay and so even
early on when I started hearing thistype of like thing in the industry.
At first I was like, yeah,okay, I guess that makes sense.
And this, of course, is not an outwardconversation, I'm having it's an internal

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one, but I'm like, yeah, I guess we don'twant to be associated with hookers, right?
And then later I was just, I actuallyremember some of the moments, but it
was like we'd be in the dance roomtalking and someone would be shitting on.
someone who's full service, which is, youknow, a whore or a prostitute or whatever.
And I was privy to the knowledge of like,I know what you're doing in your personal

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life because you tell me about it.
And I also at this point hadstarted to know and get to
know full service sex workers.
And I was like, you're sleeping withmore people than the full service people
that I know and you're not getting paid.
Yeah.
Molly [09:44.609]
but you think because you're a stripperand you only get paid to dance or for the
fantasy of a sexual interaction that youare above someone who gets paid for that

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anyways i started to be like that doesn'tmake sense i don't like it that's not i
don't get it anyways and so then so theni got exposed to more information about it
and was like oh wow this is the hierarchyand it's stupid and it's divisive
and it's judgmental and it's allthe things that I didn't want to

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be a part of the church because of.
I love that you deconstructedthe LDS church and then you
deconstructed the hierarchy.
Molly [10:27.169]
yeah i had help you know what i meanlike um i didn't coin the phrase
hierarchy i'm not even sure who didbut The Fresh King Benjamin [10:34.509]
Oh, whoever did that was a good, that waslike a throw the pen away writing day.

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Like crushed it, done.
Horarchy is so good.
It's.
Molly [10:39.585]
Done.
Then you're gonna like, oh, I shouldn'tsay this, but we have an idea that uses
something similar to that in our business.
And I kind of want to say it now, becauseit's really good, but I'm not going to.
I have self -control.
Well, where can people go to hear that?
If they come to the grand opening,will they hear about this thing?

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Molly [11:00.801]
No, so we've got big plans.
Like, I can't.
I'll tell you about the grand opening.
Tell us about these bigplans for the grand opening.
Oh, you can't.
Tell us about the grand opening, yeah.
Molly [11:11.134]
So the grand opening is Thursdaythe 25th of April at 7 p .m.
I think the intention is to have alittle Meet -and -greet kind of thing
and then there'll be a program from8 to 9 With us showcasing a little

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bit of what this club is gonna belike which includes weekly events
that are Gonna be really interesting.
I think I'm allowed to talkabout this and if I'm not
I don't, I don't, who cares.
But this part is that we're goingto be introducing like stripper
karaoke, stripper bingo just fun.
Thank you.
What stripper bingo so you get a bingocard and when the stripper does the thing

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that's on your card you you can get it.
Okay.
Molly [11:53.182]
Yep, yep, when she does a move orsomething that like is a standard
move in the industry like you'llget, you know, you'll do bingo.
That sounds like the best gameof bingo in the entire world.
Molly [12:03.965]
I think it will be.
But yeah, so we're going to show someof those things at the grand opening
and also like live music with dancers.

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I got to do that once because I boughtthis club two months ago and I've just
been, you know, running it with myteam until the rebrand, which was super
helpful and super good learning thing.
But also we all wanted to die this wholetime because it was so hard and it was so

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Anyway.
Molly [12:34.076]
Yeah, it was like sink or swim deep end.
But anyways, back to the grand opening.
So, oh, what I was going to sayis that I did get what I've never
danced to live music before untilwe had someone come in a rap group
and I had no idea what to expect.
But they were really man.

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I wish I remember their name rightnow, but they were really good.
And I got to dance live with themperforming and that's just different.
Oh man, all that bad experience is, causeas a comic, I sort of think that there
are, there's some energetic similaritiesto comedy and as it is to stripping

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because, yeah, and what I'm seeing iswhat's fun about, what's one of the most
fun things about comedy is being thecenter of everyone's attention, right?
Being the.
Molly [13:14.62]
It's super similar.
Molly [13:25.819]
Yeah, it's me.
It's about me.
focal point and I've captured everyoneand you are all mine right now.
That is so fun and the energy that you getfrom that is like, I mean it is the best.

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It's the best.
Molly [13:33.69]
Yeah.
Molly [13:42.971]
Two things, one, that's one of the thingsI forgot to say is that's part of why I
wanted you to host is that we are goingto be including comedy and poll nights,
you know, which is something I'm seeingin the bigger markets that I'd really
like to see here and that Kennedy's haddone and it seemed like it went well.
Yes.
I actually, yeah, so that's,I did a couple of shows at
Kennedy's and it was really fun.

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The energy's really great.
The comedy and the cabaretmix really well together.
And so I was thrilled when I was actually,when I heard that you were taking over
Kennedy's and that you were running it,I was like, oh, this is gonna be great.
Like this is going to be areally upscale, very cool, very

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intentional, very sexy place.
Molly [14:08.378]
Mm -hmm.
Molly [14:22.234]
Thank you.
because the energy thereis already pretty great.
It's an awesome space that you have.
And so bringing your vibe into thatspace and then intentionally creating the
kind of environment that I think you'regoing to create where there's going to
be a lot of, there's going to be a lotof fun, playful, curious, erotic energy.

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And there's also going to be areally safe, deliberate container
for that energy that I think is goingto be a little bit different from.
maybe some of the venues thatcurrently exist in Utah, where you
can sort of go and play in that.
Molly [15:02.457]
Yeah, I think it's going tobe really, really unique.
I'm really excited about that.

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But I wanted to comment on beforeI forget that how similar like so
I haven't done stand up, but I havea dancer friend who did do stand up
and have discussed that with her.
And part of the reason youwere even on my radar is that I
follow a lot of local comedians.
I follow a lot of national comediansor international comedians,
and I have met a lot of them.

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I love going to shows.
I went to Cluster Fest.
I don't know if you know what that is.
Mm -hmm.
No, I've never heard of that.
That sounds rad cluster.
Molly [15:32.28]
It's a comedy festival, like,and I saw all John Stewart, you
know, like I saw all the people.
I'm not, it was like, it was so fun.
But anyway, so I've been a bigfan of comedy for a long time.
I actually studied comedy at secondcity in Chicago, but I've never had.

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Yeah.
But I've never.
What?
Oh my God.
Did you really?
So jealous?
I just said I'm so jealous.
Molly [15:56.056]
Oh, it was so amazing.
So I have a big interest in comedy that'smostly connected to my screenwriting past.
And, you know, I used to be anactress and I'm still screenwriting.
I've won some awards last yearfor my screenwriting and and my
short films and things like that.

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So comedy, I feel reallyinterested in that way.
I don't have a burningdesire for stand up.
I think I might want to give open micnight a try at some point, especially
when we're going to have it at the club.
But.
Hell yeah.
Molly [16:24.087]
I don't really have for some reason.
Maybe it's because my cup is filledwith my stripping rate, like my
performance, you know, cup is filled.
Anyways, what I wanted to say is I thoughtso much about the parallels though.

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I think because I have such aninterest in stand -up specifically
that like both do something soincredibly vulnerable both and and
Yeah.
Totally.
Mm -hmm.
Molly [16:51.959]
And if you took away the vulnerablepart of it, it wouldn't be good, right?
Like if strippers weren't taking off theirclothes, that's not the experience, right?

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If comedians aren't getting vulnerableas well, like you don't wanna hear them.
Like they're not good to listen to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And there's even maybe a layerunderneath that where it's like, it's
not just if strippers weren't takingoff their clothes or if comedians
weren't telling jokes, because strippersdon't just take off their clothes
and comedians don't just tell jokes.
It's almost like youhave to inhabit that act.

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Right.
So a stripper, to be reallygood, a stripper has to be fully
embodying the sensuality, theact of taking off your clothes.
Right.
That's
Molly [17:17.399]
Oh no.
Yeah.
That's where that energy andthat energy is really vulnerable.
And as a comic, you haveto be there too, right?
You have to be in theact of telling a joke.

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And a good joke is a little bit,there's an edge to it, right?
There's a sense of like,maybe this doesn't work.
Like you gotta be kind of right there.
And if you're not right there on the edge,you're not going to have the same kind
of snap with the audience as you would.
And so it's fun.
It's really interesting to think about.
Molly [18:04.311]
Mm -hmm.
both of those and especially aslike, just as expressions of our

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creativity and of our eroticism, right?
That as erotic living beings, wekind of like take up the space.
And I remember the, when I was first doingcomedy, when I was like maybe a year in,
I was opening for some people, I hadn'tever really landed with the audience.

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Where I'd gotten somelaughs, I'd gotten, like I'd,
I'd gotten enough to feel like I waslegit and that it was worth pursuing,
but there hadn't ever been a moment whenthe audience had totally surrendered to
me and I totally surrendered to them.
And we were just kind of caught inthis kind of in this sort of passionate

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experience, right, of laughing.
And so one, I was opening up in Ogdenfor Wise Guys and I'm getting ready.
I'm kind of like in the space.
I'm sort of like,
just kind of getting ready,listening to the before shows,
I'll listen to the audience.
I'll kind of just be in the inthe energy of the space so I
can sort of feel who they are.
And while I'm doing that, acouple of people that I knew

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showed up to go to the show.
And one of them was this womanthat I thought was pretty cute.
And she had dressed up that nightand she was looking very cute.
And so she pops in and I get a look at herand I get this little zing of attraction.
And I'm like,
Oh, that's fun.
And then I was like, I'm going toplay with that in this set, right?

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It's not going to go anywhere more thanthis, but this little zing of energetic
aliveness that I just felt, that'swhere I'm going to do comedy from.
And it was fully embodied, right?
So I was from my head down tomy toes, I was in my body and
I went up on stage and I had anamazing set where at one point the

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The laughter that I elicited wasso uncontrollable that I was, I
tried to move on to other jokes andthey kept rolling in the thing that
I had said for like 30 seconds.
And then I tried to move on toanother thing and then I had to come
back to that thing because they werestill laughing about that thing.

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And that was, that wasimmensely pleasurable.
That was very erotic and it was,
It was energetic entirely, right?
I was just in my body and in theenergy of the room that I was in and
I just did something magic with it.
And that was, that was magic.

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Like that was super, super cool.
And I imagine that when it's good as astripper, that's the sort of energy where
it's like all of this attention is on me.
I'm in charge of it and I'mgonna just pop, pop with.
And that sounds likeactually a lot of fun.
Molly [21:03.191]
Yeah, literally just popping it.

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But yeah, it's very similar.
I loved hearing that story and...
There's a couple of things I want to say.
One is that it is about working a room.
Like being able to work a room is askill that doesn't happen overnight.

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And to be able to look around aroom and make a tiny connection with
like almost everyone that you see.
I think people have watched me and it'sinteresting because I have all my own
kinds of thoughts and feelings aboutthe kind of performer I am, right?
Or the...
Mmm.
Yeah.
Molly [21:41.911]
skill level I have or what whatnot andwhat have you but one of the skills I

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did learn is that I wanted to connectwith the audience and at first my first
year I couldn't do that actually I thinkas a stripper it's so hard and it's so
intimidating that first year and I'vemet dancers who've been in it 10 -15
years who still cannot make eye contactbecause it's so vulnerable already they're
like I cannot add eye contact into this

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that's already so difficult.
But my first year I had some kind ofshift where I was like, I think I had
felt like if they look me in the eyes,they're gonna take something from me and I
can't afford to give them what they want.
And I don't even know how thedepth of how to explain that.
But then once someone had told me thatyou need to make eye contact and of

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course doing my research online, it waslike, oh, the best thing you can do is
strippers make eye contact or best thingyou can do in sales is make eye contact.
And so I eventually kind offorced myself into doing that.
But very quickly I was like, oh, thisnot only is not that uncomfortable
for me once I can get over myself.

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In fact, I'm getting something from it.
Like I'm really getting something from it.
And that was, and that was, there'san exchange and I found a way.
Yeah.
There's an exchange of energy.
Yeah.
Molly [23:07.639]
I haven't found the way todo this in conversation with
people always, but I often can.
But I have found a way that as a performerthat no one takes anything from me.

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We're only exchanging.
We're only giving each other good things.
I'm giving you entertainment.
I'm giving you attention.
I'm giving you connection.
You're giving me an audience.
You're giving me attention.
You're giving me a connection.
Hmm.
Molly [23:34.327]
And then it gets into the scienceof that later when I understand how
much human beings need eye contact.

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That's just like they need it.
It's like they have to have it.
Right, and attentive care, right?
The close physicality, likethat's all that is so deeply
healing for us as humans.
And I love when you said this fear oflike, if I give that level of intimacy,

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something's gonna be taken from me.
And then realizing that it wasn'tabout taking, it was actually about
sort of connecting this flow ofenergy that's just difficult, right?
Molly [23:53.143]
Mm -hmm.
Molly [24:09.911]
Reciprocal, yeah.
I resonate with that so hard because,and I think that's, I feel that in a
lot of different interactions with otherhumans, where sometimes we, I think

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sometimes we're afraid that interaction,vulnerable, authentic interaction with
other humans will take something from us.
And I think probably that's becausea lot of us that has happened, right?
We've been in intimate,like intimate relationships,
probably with our parents where,

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that where that did happen, right?
Where an encounter face like eye contact,something like that was sort of a take
and but realizing that realizing thatan encounter with a human, an intimate
encounter with a human, whether that'sa touch, whether that's a glance,
but whatever form that takes, thatcan be beautifully energetically

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healing to both of you, right?
It creates this like really.
positive exchange that can goas high as you want to take it.
Molly [25:16.407]
Mm -hmm.
Yeah, I I started to love that and feedoff of that and I think that's where
I started to set myself apart as anentertainer And I loved that you used

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words like magic because like whenit's doing what it should be doing
When you're performing it's magic andwhether that's stand -up or whether
it's stripping or whether it's any othertype of you know performance when it's
When it's doing what it's meantto do, it is absolutely magical.
There was something else I was going tosay about that, about just that I don't

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necessarily feel like I am exceptionallytalented or beautiful or smart, but
that, but that I do feel like I havemade an effort to create a performance
that does feel special for some reason.
And I think it's thoselittle things like that.
Yeah.
Molly [26:12.233]
that people comment often onlike, have you seen Molly dance?
Like have you seen her?

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And I'm like, I think that it isof course the hours of practice.
It is of course, you know, that Iwork out and I look at, have a certain
aesthetic, but it's also, yeah, meconnecting to and channeling something
that is somewhat, that it's spiritual.

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Like as a performer and.
Yeah, totally.
That's spiritual and that is also like,that's also deeply connected, right?
When I imagine like the, so many ofus as humans get so little attentive
care from other humans, right?
Where they're looking at us,they're touching us, right?

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So we're so starved for that.
And it seems like the vibethat you've tried to create is,
Molly [27:00.872]
Mm -hmm.
I'm gonna check all these boxes.
I'm gonna be an expertin all these categories.
And I'm gonna bring a level ofattentiveness and attunement
and care to this experience sothat everyone leaves filled up.

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Molly [27:19.559]
Yeah, you know, thatwas something I wanted.
And this is part of, you know, Icould take this in many directions,
but I want I've always wanted peopleto leave the interaction and whatever
amount of money they spend, I want themto be like, yep, glad I spent that.

(27:37):
Don't regret that at all.
And, you know, in some of my writingsand things I've gotten into, you know,
of course, humans need eye contact.
They also need play.
So like, and so people, there's so, somany people, especially like, I feel
like maybe certain kinds of men that arelike, well, I don't want to feel like I

(27:59):
have to pay for that kind of attention.
I don't want to feel like I have to pay.
And I'm like, you'repaying for entertainment.
If you understand the concept ofpaying for a concert, if you understand
the concept even of paying for anambiance, going to a restaurant when
you could eat at home, like how canyou not wrap your brain around that?
Yeah.
Molly [28:20.454]
Like for example, this is sorry,I will jump all over the place and

(28:20):
this is just how my brain works.
But like, for example,
I love where this is goingbecause I have a thought about
this as soon as you're done.
Molly [28:28.39]
I don't know where this is going.
I'm not sure you know where this is going.
But like, for example, this is one ofthe things that I say and it sounds
weird, but like I've never had likea threesome, but I have some interest
in it, but I've never had one.
But I know that if I did, I wouldwant to hire a professional.

(28:42):
And so getting back to what I do, ifyou want to be entertained erotically,
or if you're craving connection,or if you're, you know what I mean?
Like these women, especiallywhen they've been in a long time,
Yeah.
Molly [28:58.021]
They are professionals at that.
You need someone, youwanna feel seen and heard.
And like, and I'm not saying allstrippers are super good at this, but

(29:03):
the joke is that they're therapists.
Like, and I can't tell you howmany times my job just feels
like I need a therapy degree, yo.
Like.
Mm -hmm.
You should get like one grandfatheredin if you do a certain number
of years of stripping, you justautomatically get, I think you should.
And I love what you said about thisidea of pay the professionals, right?

(29:27):
Because what I thinkis really cool, right?
So what I've learned having grownup Mormon and having been taught as
a Mormon that the way to approacheroticism was to not think about it or do
anything with it, to not even touch it.
Molly [29:22.277]
You should.
Yeah.
until I got married and then assoon as I got married, magically, I

(29:48):
would become an erotic powerhouse.
Like, it would just automaticallyturn on and everything would work.
You had zero information, zero...
Molly [29:54.148]
Yes.
With no information or practiceand being told it was next being
told it was next to murder.
Yeah, I was gonna go from next tomurder to erotic God, like that.
That all that needed to happen was I hadto go to a super special space castle and

(30:11):
a dude dressed all in white would do somereally magic hand signs over me and that
then I would be just unbelievable in bed.
Molly [30:09.027]
Yeah.
Molly [30:23.715]
Duh, yeah.
And that is not what happened.
And what I've learned, having now leftthat and actually tried to intentionally,

(30:33):
like I left Mormonism and then I waslike, I'm essentially a 14 year old boy,
a 12 year old boy when it comes to mysexual expression and sexual development.
Because right around the timewhen I started maturing and
experiencing erotic energy,
the religion that I was intold me, don't even touch that.

(30:54):
Molly [30:58.242]
No.
Stay away from that,that's dangerous and bad.
And in fact, if you touch that,you'll want to touch it more
and that will be your fault.
Right?
So all of that energy issort of coming into that.
And, oh shit, I justlost my train of thought.
Where was I going with?
Molly [31:02.243]
Thank you.
Molly [31:05.859]
Mm -hmm.

(31:14):
Mm -hmm.
Molly [31:18.465]
Your body's a sin.
like my body's a sin and.
And so when I left, I was like, I needto have experiences with erotic energy so
that I can learn how that energy wants tomove and express in my body and that I can

(31:36):
sort of get that energy back for myself.
And I think that anyone who's in Mormonismprobably needs to have an experience
sort of like that, where you needto sort of like reclaim that energy.
And when you reclaim that energy,it starts to become really fun.

(31:57):
It starts to become really playful.
You start to realize that there's allkinds of different things that you can
do with that energy that that human andthat humans have actually been playing
with that energy for a really long time.
And some people are professionals whenit comes to playing with this energy.
Some people, their entire job,what they do all the time.

(32:20):
is intentionally develop and cultivatetheir ability to play with this erotic
energy in a bunch of different ways.
And so why would you, it's oddthat we have a stigma with this
because we have no stigma forpeople who intentionally cultivate a
healing energy and become a doctor.
We have no stigma for someone whointentionally cultivates a business

(32:43):
energy and becomes a business person.
So why would we have a stigma?
Molly [32:30.528]
Mm -hmm.
Molly [32:49.503]
And we.
over people who are intentionallycultivating their ability to create
and channel erotic energy and thenoffer that as a beautiful gift and
service to those of us who need it.
Molly [33:00.127]
Mm -hmm.
Molly [33:06.559]
That's what I'm saying, yo.

(33:04):
And like, and it's, of course,it's the thing we always say,
it's the oldest profession.
The first fucking jobthere ever fucking was.
And yet here we are tryingto say sex work is real work.
You really want me to validate theoldest profession in the world?

(33:25):
I'm still over here tryingto get you to validate that.
Yeah!
Yeah, it's wild.
The oldest profession, a thingthat we built temples to, that we
had sacred vestal virgins who werenot virgins, they fucked everyone.
That was their job.
And it's wild to me, and I thinkthat a big reason why we probably

(33:48):
do it is that in the West, therewas a religious ideology that
looked at erotic energy and said,
Molly [33:43.454]
Mm -hmm.
If we can attach shame to that, I'llbet we can really control people and we
can probably milk off tons and tons andtons of money over their guilt because

(34:09):
they'll do something because all humansat some point will have some kind of
erotic expression and it will look sodifferent for so many different people
and that could be a big erotic expression.
It could be a teeny teenytiny little one, right?
There's a whole spectrum of
Molly [34:18.557]
Yeah.
Molly [34:25.885]
No.
To me, anything that's creativehas the root of sexual energy.

(34:30):
That's uncomfortable, I think,for a lot of people, but like
creative energy is sexual energy.
And it's interesting.
I wish I could.
I'm terrible remembering names of things.
I read a lot and well read, but I'm notgood at remembering like dates or names.
But there was actually there's a veryprogressive priest recently who's left.
It was very high up inthe church and his left.

(34:50):
100%.
Molly [34:54.045]
Catholic Church, but he did a lotof research into this and there was
actually like a big shift that youcan see very clearly where there was
someone in leadership who had a lotof sexual deviancy and this is like
Damn, I wish I knew I think it waslike many hundreds of years ago, right?

(35:11):
But he had a lot of sexual perversionand so he really started to
implement this sexual shame thingand that you can trace a lot of
what has happened to this specific person.
You're like, what?
Damn it, dude.
Man, I wish I could throwout who it was because it was
really, really such a good read.

(35:31):
But yeah, before that, and it reallyties in, I think, so, so intensely with
that a lot of sex work is women, right?
And the power that that gives them.
Damn it, dude.
I just said damn it, dude.
then we could sacrifice.
Mm -hmm.
Molly [35:51.388]
And like, if you do research onsex work, like, we're talking like
women who impacted world wars.
We're talking about people who wereat the front lines of revolutions.

(35:54):
This is who sex workers are and whohave always been, but are often, you
know, taken out of those stories,you know, because of sexual shame.
We're talking about the people thatJesus wanted to hang out with the most.
He was always hanging out with,because there's a vibrant, powerful
energy that's embodied, I think, insomeone who's mastered that energy

(36:18):
enough to be like, oh, this is a giftthat I have to give to the world.
Molly [36:20.474]
Yeah.
Molly [36:35.386]
Yeah, I'm spiritually connectedin this way intensely, right?
Like, which is interesting because like,I don't know when I started to notice
that about myself, but I think it wasprobably, you know, like you're saying
like 13 or something like that or, but,but before it was 13, before I knew

(36:42):
what sexual energy was, I was seeingold movies or I was seeing things like
that when, and this does get a littlebit into like cabaret types of vibes.
where I would see anything like thatthat was cabaret -esque or stripper
-esque and I was like, that's allI want to watch, that's all I want
to be, that's all I want to embody.

(37:03):
And that was long beforeI had any sexual feelings.
I didn't understand that that was anythingabout enjoying watching a female, female's
body was sexual, you know what I mean?
Like that was something I washighly interested in before I
connected it to anything sexual.
Yeah.
Hmm.
It's so much like we have probablyas humans been watching women

(37:28):
dance erotically for hundredsof thousands of years, right?
We have been every night we'reputting on a campfire, we're beating
our drums and there are beautifulwomen just fucking doing their thing.
Molly [37:53.944]
gyrating, jiggling.
And that is, I think, such a beautifulexpression of who humans are.

(37:52):
And it irks me that we have,that there's any discussion about
whether or not that's good or bad.
What could possibly be bad aboutappreciating and enjoying the
beauty of another person who'soffering that beauty to you?
Molly [38:23.928]
And what else is strange?

(38:15):
How come cheerleadingand gymnastics are okay?
Like how is that?
How is that like, that'sa form of that, right?
Like how come certain ways it's moreacceptable and in other ways if it's
more direct or even if it's justdifferent or especially if it's not...

(38:37):
Right.
Molly [38:52.887]
I don't know, cookie cutteror like if it's exotic in any
way, you know what I mean?
That's when we have a problem with it.
Yeah, I think probably what it is isthat we are afraid of getting turned on.
We're afraid of...
Molly [39:09.687]
But you can turn on at the grocery store.

(38:59):
You know what I'm saying?
Like.
No, and I do.
And what I think, I mean, haveyou seen the melons at that place?
But I think that, well, here's whereI think maybe things are off is number
one, I think that as a culture, we havemade turn on shameful and something

(39:24):
that is not okay to experience, right?
So that.
When a lot of people feel a sensation of,oh, I'm now turned on by something, that's
often accompanied with a lot of shame anda lot of like, oh, I shouldn't do that.
And anytime you have this energy thatrises up and then you try to tamp
that thing down, then it starts tocome out in weird perverted ways.

(39:46):
So because that energy has to move.
It is going to move.
It's the most powerfulfucking thing on this planet.
It created this planet.
Molly [39:48.662]
Mm -hmm.
Molly [39:59.125]
Mm -hmm.
Right?
The reason why our planet is the way thatit is, is because there's this sexual
erotic energy that moves and pumps andit's the lifeblood of our entire planet.

(40:09):
And so it has to move, right?
And if you'd say, no, don't moveit, no, stick it down, then it's
going to come out in weird ways.
I think that leads to the secondproblem with it, which is that a lot
of time, people who are male -bodied,
Molly [40:32.277]
Mm -hmm.
or have a male experience, they are nottaught or expected to know how to channel

(40:33):
that energy when it rises up in themand to know how to contain and hold it.
And so when they get, when they feel thatlittle turn on, they feel shame about it.
And they also have no way to channelthat or control it, or they have
no context for how to do that.
And so they, they feel like,oh, well, now I have a boner

(40:53):
and now it's everyone's problem.
Rather than just being like,
Molly [41:07.893]
Hahaha!
Oh, you have a boner right now,great, that's your problem.
There's nothing wrong with having a boner.
Boners just pop up, they popup whenever they want to.
But if you as a, I think if you as a malebody person, if you can sort of allow

(41:14):
that to happen and not feel shame andthen not make it anyone else's problem.
This is not.
Molly [41:13.363]
Mm -hmm.
Molly [41:20.756]
Mm -hmm.
Molly [41:32.212]
We've made being human shameful,like especially for men.
Yeah, like crying, emoting,having an erection, like anything.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's funny that you say cryingbecause I think that in a lot of ways,

(41:35):
those things are connected, right?
I think that males in ourculture have been conditioned
to really only express like twoemotions, rage and arousal, right?
Those are the twothings, rage and arousal.
If you're a man, those are the twothings that you get to feel and...
Molly [41:49.331]
Yeah.
Molly [41:59.506]
Arousal.
That is such a limited experience and sodamaging for it actually kind of makes

(42:01):
me angry and sad for the other for otherpeople who are like me who do not get
to experience the full range of whatit means to be human because they've
been so locked into this one place.
And I actually think that's probably whysex workers become therapists, right?

(42:22):
Why there's a sort of atherapeutic energy there.
And that in a lot of ways, the workthat sex workers are doing is helping
people who have been limited to twoexpressions come into a wider expression
of who they are because they've been madeto feel safe in their sexual turn on.

(42:44):
And they've also been given a structuredenvironment in which to move that energy.
So everyone knows the rules.
Molly [43:01.138]
you
Everyone knows how we'regoing to take care of people.
And it doesn't always go perfectly,but generally it's a safe interaction
where that energy can move.
And then it can also start to get themin touch with other sensations that they

(43:06):
have, with other ways of being human.
And so you're sort of starting withthis one feeling that they're allowed to
feel, and then you're sort of wideningtheir ability to feel other things.
And I imagine that's a pretty beautifulexperience to have with another human.
Molly [43:25.713]
you
Molly [43:35.857]
Yeah, I mean, is it MarvinGaye that sings sexual healing?

(43:27):
You know, like, and that's sung by a man.
There's a reason why a man wrote thatsong, you know, like not that women
can't experience sexual healing orthat they don't, but that I think
they're usually the ones giving that.
But sorry, what was your question?
You had a question and I just kind of.
I don't know.

(43:47):
Maybe it was just a statementthat landed in a question.
Let's maybe shift gears a little bit.
I wanna talk about, so when I firstinvited you to do this podcast, I
was like, hey, come on the podcast.
It's called Vibing the Apocalypse.
We assume in this podcast that theapocalypse has already happened.

(44:08):
And your response to that was obviously.
Molly [44:10.255]
Mm -hmm.
Molly [44:26.064]
Yeah.
So I'm just curious about why you,like, why was that your response?
Why do you think theapocalypse has happened?
What are you seeing in theworld of apocalypses in today?
Molly [44:39.215]
So the reason, you know, I saidyeah to that is that I, I'm pretty

(44:30):
a gut instinctual kind of person.
And when something resonates forme, it just resonates for me.
It doesn't always make sense tome, but I definitely can explain
why I think that resonated for me.
And it is that, yeah, we are livingin like the most intense, difficult,
terrible, terrifying horrific times.

(44:51):
And like I had a friend recently who saidsomething about talking about anxiety
and about anxiety and you know thatthey're always at a seven and I was like,
do you think there's people out here?
Not at a seven of anxiety.
Do you think you could look atanyone out here who's not at a seven?

(45:13):
And just people.
Oh, I have anxiety.
I have anxiety.
Do you see anyone out here who doesn'thave fucking anxiety right now?
Yeah, who the fuck is not at a seven?
Yeah, anxiety is a valid and appropriateresponse to the world being on fire.
That's just, that's not anxiety, that'sjust your nervous system telling you,
dude, something's fucked up right now.
Yeah.
Molly [45:41.646]
To the apocalypse!
Molly [45:46.99]
Yeah.
Molly [45:52.75]
Like we're not okay.

(45:35):
Like no one is okay.
I don't know anyone who's okay.
No one is okay.
Like.
I don't either.
And what's kind of comfortingthough about no one being okay is
that it sort of feels validating.
Like the thing that I feel when I think,oh, this is just the apocalypse is I
feel like this weight of like, oh, it'sokay that things are crazy right now.

(45:59):
It's okay that I have no clue.
It's okay that some daysI'm like, I don't know.
I don't know how we get out of this.
And that is a...
that is a legitimate and validand appropriate response to
a world that has gone mad.
Molly [46:35.212]
And I think acceptance is so hugeand important just in general to

(46:25):
surviving this apocalypse, you know?
And I think what's really importanttoo is finding your role in that.
Not the one you wanted, not theone whatever, you know what I mean?
I have all these, I'm a creative, I'ma writer, I've had some success in
those areas, you know, I've had...

(46:45):
an acting career where I had 30plus credits in film and TV and
movies and stuff, but I endedup stripping and that being like
my main source of income, right?
And I don't know, I feel badeven articulating this, but it's
something I have to say anyways.
There is no part of me that wantsto own a cabaret or a strip club.

(47:11):
Like there really is, like itwas something that I'm like,
I don't want to do this.
I have to do this.
This isn't something I'm like, oh,that would be great and this and that.
No, it's like something I felt veryspecifically in this apocalypse
called to do, which was likethese women need to make money.

(47:33):
These women need opportunities.
These women need to pay theirbills and feed their kids.
And some of them are taking care ofparents and some of them are, you know,
Hmm.
Yeah.
Molly [48:03.978]
doing all these things and they need to beable to make money and they need a place
that people aren't going to abuse them in.

(47:55):
And this is really hard for me totalk about because I know that there's
people, there's men in this industrywho I've worked with who will feel a
type of way if and when they hear this.
But and I've, I could get go intoall different paths of this but like,
Yes.
Molly [48:34.825]

(48:15):
There is some men doing a reallygood job doing their best.
But at the end of the day, why in a femaledominated industry are the men running
things that doesn't makes I love men.
And I'm not going to lie and say I haven'tstruggled with some misandry because you
can't work in an industry like mine andnot have struggled with some misandry.

(48:38):
Okay.
Well, and let's be real, Men's trackrecord over the last several hundred
years deserves a mild amount of misandry.
Molly [49:04.136]
Yeah.
I don't hate men.
I hate what society has done to men.
I don't hate men.
I hate the ways that they'vebeen forced to behave because

(48:59):
they were born into this society.
Anyways, so I don't...
it's a really bizarre position thatI'm in and it was actually what even...
so I meditate a lot and...
Yes.
Molly [49:33.224]
get really quiet with myself andI get really quiet with whatever
forces that be because I'm notentirely sure what I believe.

(49:21):
I believe that there's the highestform of myself or the highest form
of my intelligence in my brain.
So if I I like to take it kind ofscientific because spirituality can
be a little bit like much for me.
I like to believe that there's ahighest part of my brain that I attend.
I occasionally have accessto through meditation or

(49:42):
through breath work or through
whatever practices that I can to tap intothe highest level of my intelligence.
And through my meditation andtrying to figure that out, all I
could figure out was that I didn'thave a choice about this path.
This path was going to happenthat I was the one who...

(50:02):
wow, this is this is given Jesusright now, which I don't like.
I love this.
You had a revelation.
You had a revelation from Godto open, to create a safe, to
create a latter day cabaret.
Yeah.
Molly [50:26.92]
But also the answer camein very clear to me.

(50:23):
I had a revelation from God, but, yeahbecause i could that was that was like
the answer came and so clear to me itwas like not because i wanted to it
was because i knew that i could i knewthat it would be hard but that i knew
that i could do it and that the biggestreason i was called to do it was because
i didn't want to was because i didn'thave any part of me that wanted this to
control women or to exploit them or to

(50:45):
Hmm.
Yeah.
Molly [51:06.406]
Gain some kind of power dynamics thatwould benefit me in some way you know
what i mean like i do want to makemoney i'm about that money life like
i'm not going to play money is abundanceto me money is good and i love it
Yeah.
Yeah, and the way to make money isto make money for your girls, right?
And create a space forthem to do it safely and...

(51:07):
Molly [51:24.39]
Yeah, well, but I.
Molly [51:29.189]
Well, I'm changing the structure.
The structure used to be and has been thatin strip club, and this is also can we
could go too far on this with cabaret andstrippers club stuff so we won't go there.
But in strip clubs, they take a percentageof your tips and there's house fees.
So the the what's it called?

(51:29):
The structure is we make we don'tmake money off the people coming
in really we do, but mainly we'retaking money from the dancers.
That's how we.
Yeah.
Molly [51:58.437]
do this.
So the structure at my spotis we do have stage fees.
They're super, super low.
Like for example, at a typical strip club,it's like a hundred dollar stage fee.

(51:50):
And then you also give outa portion of your tips.
We're doing like a $5 stage fees justbecause we want to try and stay open.
We're like, how do we, we likedid all the math and then we redid
the math and then we kept goingon the math and we were like, how?
How can we, I wanted tohave no stage fees, right?
I want to pay them tobe there, but I can't.

(52:12):
I'm just starting out.
I'm trying to build this businessand the structure is not that.
I don't know how an industry workswhere you're not taking all the
money from the dancers, right?
But I'm going to find outbecause I'm like, how can a bar
make money and be successful?
But somehow in the strip clubpattern, it doesn't work like that.

(52:34):
It's all from the dancers.
figure it out.
Molly [52:58.019]
And so I'm like, anyways, the point isI'm trying to build a structure that is
taking as little from them as possible,but it's also still saying, saying,
yeah, you're kind of renting the stageand the space for your performance.
So give us a little bit of money, but alsowe have it structured so that it's like,
if you make under 50 bucks or if you makeunder this certain amount, no stage fee.

(52:56):
Don't even fucking worry about it, babe.
Like if you didn't make a lot of money,that's not expected of you, which is not
the way these other clubs are doing it.
They're like,
You're really comingin as like a disruptor.
Like you're coming in to disruptand change the way, which is
very apocalyptic of you, right?
Because that's what the wholething that happens with apocalypses

(53:16):
is the old world breaks and thenwe build a new and better world.
And I love that.
I feel that really strongly fromyou because I, and I think it's
so wonderful what you're doingbecause it's creating this thing
that is going to be here, right?
We are going to,
Molly [53:29.411]
Molly [53:33.89]
It is very, yeah.
We are going to exchange erotic energy inUtah in a bunch of different ways, right?

(53:39):
We're going to do that.
And so how are we going to do that?
What are the venues?
What are the ways that we're going tocreate pathways for people to do it?
And I love that your mindis in there doing that.
Cause what I'm seeing from you isI see the value and the power of
this energy that I'm working with.
And it's important to me to be caringfor the people who are doing this work.

(54:03):
Molly [54:00.93]
Thank you.
And I think that that is gonnacreate a really energetically pure
vibe for your business and for thething that you're doing that I think
will start to attract the kinds ofpeople who are going to really, who
are gonna wanna make it rain, right?
Who are gonna wanna actually go in thereand play with this energy and play with

(54:25):
it with people who are professional,who kick ass and who feel safe doing it.
Molly [54:34.593]
Okay.
Right?
All of that feels so great, right?
If I've got money to spend and I wantto have that experience, to be able to
go to a place that's going to be fun,that's going to be exciting, that I
know that the people there are beingwell taken care of, and that the whole,

(54:46):
it's a win for every, what a magical,fun, energetic experience for everyone.
Molly [55:09.408]
Yeah, there's a little story that I tellthat is so interesting because it feels
to me that the people in power have beenaware of this in this industry, but don't
want to take it as far as it can go.

(55:07):
So my quick story is that I met this stripclub owner randomly at a party, like not
a stripper party, nothing, just like.
ran into him and he's like, oh yeah,I used to own this club and that
strip club and you know, was talkingmy ear off and I was like, interested
but also I could tell he was kind ofa dick hole and so I was like, all
right, tell me your stories, whatever.

(55:28):
Anyways, he said, yeah, trails,which is where I used to be.
He's like, basically he wastalking about them as a disruptor
over one thing that they did.
He said, yeah, they started walkingtheir dancers to and from the stage.
And then those dancers really started tothink something of themselves and then
they made all the money and that's howthey put everyone else out of business.

(55:51):
And I'm like, how come someone didn't lookat that and go, oh, the better you treat
these people, the better they're goingto treat the people who come in and the
more money you're going to make dumbass.
Like instead, I've just seen that littlethings like that get implemented, but then
just mainly watch the dancers be shit on.

(56:13):
Yes.
Molly [56:35.167]
like completely abused, berated,assaulted, you know what I mean?
By the men, not all the men, not allthe men in the industry, but enough
and no one will do anything about itbecause they're usually at the top.
Like, and just being so highly awareof how to make this a successful

(56:36):
thing and watching people do theopposite of that and be abusive.
But enough that there's a thread in it.
Molly [57:04.606]
Killing me, man.
I just had this hilarious littleimage of you pop up, pop into my mind,
which is you as the angel Moroni,like gold with a sheet and a trumpet.

(56:59):
And anytime someone does somethingnaughty or bad in your cabaret,
you walk up to them and you justblow really loud in their face.
And you like blow them out.
Molly [57:21.95]
Hmm.
Molly [57:37.405]
love that.
Let's implement that.
Yeah, that I think that that'slike a because essentially what

(57:21):
you're doing right is you'resaying I'm this is my space.
And in my space, we play and arecurious and have fun with this with
this experience with this energy.
And if you're going to come into my space,you're going to treat everyone in it well.

(57:44):
And if you don't,
you will be blown away.
Like you will be goodbye.
You're not welcome here.
And I think that is, Ithink that is awesome.
I think that's super fun.
And I think there's also, it'slike super hot too, right?
Cause you're creating this container thatsays, I know exactly the experience that

(58:06):
I want to have here and the experiencethat I want everyone to have here.
And by God, you will notviolate these, my boundaries.
Molly [58:11.452]
Yeah.
Molly [58:35.484]
Yeah, you know, there's a book called, Ithink it's called Why Men Love Bitches.
But people respond well toboundaries because people respond
well to bitches specifically.
I love bitches.
Bitches are my favoritepeople in the whole world.

(58:27):
And the reason is, isthat you can trust them.
They're being honest with you.
You might not like what they're sayingor doing or the boundaries that they're
giving you, but you can feel safe init because you're like, I know this
person's dealing with me in a real way.
You
Yeah.
Molly [59:05.243]
But yeah.
I have had so much fun.
It is it is coming up on an hour.
Thank you so much for for for coming on.

(58:49):
There are a couple morethings we have to do.
So, number one is this is actually thefirst time I we're going to do this.
So we're adding a new segment tothe podcast called ask a seer stone.
And the premise of thissegment is that as the one true
prophet, I'm a Mormon prophet.
And so the way that I receive revelation,
Molly [59:11.066]
We too.
is the Mormon way, which isby looking at a rock in a hat.

(59:13):
So I would like to introduceyou to the seer stone for today.
Would you like to meet today's seer stone?
So in honor of you, I have this verybeautiful orange citrine goddess.
Molly [59:55.834]
That is everything.
And she's Satrine too, that's just...
Isn't that everything?
And she has just, she'sthe train, she's gorgeous.

(59:35):
And she has this, she's like, presentingthis little portal for you to gaze into
to achieve enlightenment and wisdom.
So that's who we'regoing to consult today.
What question would you like toask God through this seer stone?
Molly [01:00:04.314]
Mm -hmm.
I like her.
Molly [01:00:10.81]
Mm -hmm.
Mm -hmm.

(59:55):
Molly [01:00:25.561]
What question would I like to ask Godthrough the pussy portal Seer Stone?
The Fresh King Benjamin [01:00:32.205]
Pussy portal seer stone, yes.
Molly [01:00:34.552]
Ummm...
Molly [01:00:39.289]
Dear Lord, I think the only one I canreally think of right now is like...

(01:00:18):
How do I get through all thesethings I'm trying to do and not die?
Because all the transformation and growthis making me like, bro, I'm gonna die.
Like, help me.
Tell me, Lord, what it is I need to do.
Wait, is this the way this question works?

(01:00:38):
Am I doing it right?
This is how that works.
Yes.
So you've now asked, I'm going to consultour Lord and see what she has to say.
Molly [01:01:19.831]
Okay, thank you.
My nose is like right in the portal.

(01:01:00):
Molly [01:01:29.527]
where it belongs, yeah.
So, verily, verily, thus saith the Lordunto my servant, Molly the stripper.
you are doing God's workin the state of Utah.

(01:01:20):
Because so many people areso deeply fucked up in their
erotic, sacral sexual energy.
And they've been fucked up forhundreds of years and they need a
really safe place and safe people tostart to work some of that shit out.

(01:01:43):
So I'm super proud of you.
Good job for listening to my call.
No problem.
You heard me loud and clear.
You're doing exactlywhat I made you to do.
And the way that you're goingto get through it is by allowing
the experience to stretch youin the ways that it's going to.

(01:02:05):
So what's actually true is thatyou are going to have to be...
Molly [01:02:15.447]
Thanks, God!
You know, you imagine like the higher,higher self in your brain, right?
You're going to have to be more of whatyou really are in order to do the things
that you want to do and the thingsthat I've called you to do, the things
that I actually created you to do.

(01:02:26):
And so that stretching thatyou're feeling right now is
actually part of the experience.
It's just stretching you into thekind of person that is going to
be able to do and handle and be.
the kind of person that willcreate the kind of change that
I want to see in the world.
And so you're doing it just right.

(01:02:48):
It's gonna be wild.
It's gonna be crazy.
You don't have to resist any of it.
You just have to allow and everythingthat you allow will move through
you and it will be for your good.
And it will actually create theresponses and the reactions and the
instincts that you need in order to dothe work that you've been called to do.

(01:03:10):
in the name of Jesus Christ.
Amen.
Molly [01:03:43.893]
Amen.
Ramen.
Thank you so much.
I loved that.
Yeah, that was straight from God.
Yeah, no problem.
Let's see.
Let's just really quick, let'swrap up with, again, you are having

(01:03:33):
a grand opening for, what is it?
I don't, have we even saidthe name of your room yet?
I don't think you're Molly's Gemini Room.
I love that that's the namebecause I am a triple Gemini.
Molly [01:03:52.212]
Thank you.
Molly [01:04:03.86]
Mm -hmm.
Molly [01:04:08.34]
I don't think so.
It's Molly's Gemini Room.
Molly [01:04:18.996]
No.
Shut up.
Yes.
Yeah, I'm actually the king of theGeminis and no one voted for that.

(01:03:59):
I just appointed myselflike a true Gemini.
And yeah, so it's
-Molly [01:04:33.62]
Are you like your sun, moon and rising?
Is that what you're saying to me?
I'm my sun, moon and my Jupiter.
Yeah, sun, moon, Jupiter.
Yeah.
Molly [01:04:39.379]
and your Jupiter.
Okay.
I forget.
Yeah, there's other placements.
That is insane to me.
I had no idea.
Yeah, I think it's Kismet that weare connecting over this, because

(01:04:24):
I think that I love what you'redoing, the work that you're doing,
and I also feel really passionateabout how important it is, right?
That we're, yeah, you're creating justa place for people to go and have fun,
but also what you're doing is you'recreating a space where people who have

(01:04:44):
been really deeply wounded can go.
Molly [01:04:52.083]
buried.
and start to get someof those wounds healed.
So a great start for that is togo to the grand opening of Molly's
Gemini Room, which is going to beThursday, April 25th at 7 p .m.

(01:05:04):
Where is it located?
Molly [01:05:34.545]
Mm -hmm.
It is at 412 West 600North in Salt Lake City.
We are like three, fourminutes north of downtown.
Super close to downtown.
Yeah, 412 West 600 North.

(01:05:26):
It's right off the freeway.
It is on a one way street.
Some people have been like, it's too hard.
And I'm like, you'll figure it out.
I'm sure you'll figure it out.
Thank you.
If the Mormon pioneers could trekacross the plains to, who were your
ancestors to come to Utah, you guyscan find this location of mine.

(01:05:47):
Molly [01:06:10.609]
Yeah.
Mm -hmm.
Molly [01:06:17.745]
Yeah, it's you've been there.
It's not that hard to find.
It's a little bit like, okay, andthen you get it a few times and
you're like, okay, it's pretty easy.
It's not that hard.
The way that I would describe itis it's a little hidden, right?
And it's like, it's sort of like, yougotta, you gotta really, you gotta really
want to go there in order to find it.
Molly [01:06:30.865]
Yeah, which is intentional.
Yeah, like.
Molly [01:06:37.552]
Yeah, it's a it's a very yeah,it's kind of an industrial area.

(01:06:11):
It's a speakeasy type of vibe.
When you come in, you're goingto be like, oh, like you're
going to go to the parking lot.
You're going to be like, wherewhere I'm by the freeway.
What's happening here?
But, you know, places like this havehistorically been in areas like this.
And so I like it for them.
Yeah.
The vibe, the vibe of the,and the contrast too of where
you're at when you park, right?

(01:06:32):
Cause you're kind of like, Oh,this is a little industrial
is a great description for it.
You're kind of like, Oh, this iswhere I would go to get my, to pick
up my car after it had been towed.
And then you walk in and it's a,it, the whole space is really cool.
Like it's, it's intimate.
It's, it's close.
Like it's like a big hug.
And so the, I remember, I remember thefirst time walking in and I was just like,

(01:06:53):
Molly [01:07:09.775]
Mm -hmm.
Oh wow, this place is cool.
Molly [01:07:27.023]
Mm -hmm.
It's a whole vibe.
But I do want to say and maybe Ishould have said this earlier that
like There is a low capacity and soit if for some reason you come to the
grand opening and you can't get inwhich Would be great for us, right?
I mean, we want you to get in we'regonna have like some you know free

(01:07:14):
tickets and things to give away if thathappens And then but come back over the
weekend come back over the weekend if youcan't make it to Thursday, you know, I
That's what we're going for.
So what I would say to that...
Yeah, and what I would say toois that occupancy is like 49.
So it's gonna be veryexclusive, very intimate.
And the way to make sure that you get inis to go to, is it mollysgeminireum .com?

(01:07:40):
And you can get your RSVP.
And so if you're RSVP'd,bam, you get to go in.
Molly [01:08:00.687]
Yeah.
Molly [01:08:12.079]
and you can RSVP.
So I would do that if you're listeningto this and you're like, yeah, I
definitely want to go and check this out.
It's going to be a really fun nightbecause it's going to have some comedy.
It's going to have some music.
It's going to have some dancing.
And it really is going to, Ithink, showcase the kind of
experience that you're goingto be able to have at the room.

(01:08:03):
And I'm excited for that becauseit's going to be very, very,
very flashy, very sophisticated.
Like we're going to put on areally cool show for people and
you're going to want to be there.
Right.
So if you, if you like,
Molly [01:08:44.813]
Mm -hmm.
If you like cabaret, if you like, ifyou want more of that kind of place
and that kind of experience here inUtah, AKA if you're a fun person,

(01:08:26):
then you should totally come outand we're gonna have a great time.
So April 25th, Thursday, 7 p .m.
and the address again is 612.
Molly [01:09:05.677]
Mm -hmm.
It's 412 West 600 South.
412 West 600 South.
And if you just Google Molly'sGemini Room, you'll find it.
So.
Molly [01:09:17.581]

(01:08:46):
Yep and my handle is molly the stripperif you need to message me or the page
is mollysgeminirum on instagram aswell message if you have any questions.
Awesome.
Yeah.
So ask the ask the Molly,it's ask a stripper.
Molly [01:09:32.044]
My page is Molly the stripper, butI have a podcast called Ask the
Stripper that's not active right now.
I have two seasons, butI've been busy as hell.

(01:09:07):
So.
Nolly Distributor.
Yeah, you're like you're openingyour own your own little room.
So Molly the stripper andMolly's Gemini room on Instagram.
Any other places where people can followyou or learn about what you're doing?
Sweet.
Well, thanks so much for coming on.
And everybody, I hope you enjoyed myconversation with Molly the stripper.

(01:09:28):
And I'm going to be at her grandopening on Thursday, the 25th.
We're going to have a great time.
And I hope that you come out.
And until then, good luck.
vibing this apocalypse.

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