December 6, 2024 • 61 mins
Comedy Rumble Reflections and Unfiltered Confidence with Kyd Kant Read
In this episode, the host engages in a spirited conversation with KQ, a rising comedian who shares his experiences from the Comedy Rumble in Las Vegas. They delve into the electrifying atmosphere of the event, highlighting the vibrant crowd energy and the unique dynamics of performing in front of a live audience. KQ reflects on the challenges and triumphs of the night, emphasizing the importance of confidence, listening, and adaptability in comedy. The discussion also touches on broader themes, such as societal change, the need for more direct confrontations, and the absurdity of certain cultural phenomena. As they navigate through personal anecdotes and comedic insights, the duo explores the power of humor in addressing complex issues and fostering community connections. The episode concludes with KQ sharing upcoming show details and the host promoting the next Comedy Rumble events.
00:00 Ride the Wave Media Podcast is presented by Cherry
00:49 You were on Rumble 3 Las Vegas last month
03:37 Growing up in a Mormon polygamous cult taught me that you can argue against anything
07:47 What comedy does is comedy creates kind of like this thing
08:20 You talk about your confidence that you could 100% land an airplane
13:43 All three black comics lost to different forms of white people in Rumble
17:28 Donald Trump has been confident on the campaign trail since 2016
21:34 J.J. jokes about the energy of the Comedy Rumble
25:10 Every comic on the show did their best, and everyone had amazing energy
29:00 Jake Paul somehow beat Mike Tyson on YouTube
32:27 Comedy is all about playing with the energy of humans, right
37:36 There are two things that I want to say in response to that
40:04 Chair Cult starts the show with breathing exercises to encourage audience engagement
42:16 With a smaller audience, there's always a bit of a risk
45:14 The Rumble gave you an opportunity to open for a hot crowd
51:08 His entire 10 minute set was him covered with bad ventriloquism
52:25 I think there's an opportunity when things get crazy like they are right now
57:08 So second question is, um, if we. If this apocalypse goes south, what skills do you have
Follow KQ on Instagram: @kydqcomedy
Hand Me Down Mic Event: December 10th at Sohn Las Vegas
Comedy Rumble in Salt Lake City: December 6th at Wise Guys
Comedy Rumble in Las Vegas: December 15th at Wise Guys in the Arts District
Follow the host on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube: @thefreshkingbenjamin
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You are, you are my first podcast.
You, you're taking, you'retaking the podcast, uh, cherry.
I, I am going to be so, um, uh, sogentle until you don't want me to be
gentle and then I will be vigorous.
Just, just walk me through it.
Let me breathe.
I'll,
I'll, I'll whisper in your ear.
(00:41):
I'll be like, you're doing a great job.
Relax.
Words of affirmation for sure.
Exactly.
I'll just, I'll affirmyou all the time, dude.
I want to talk about, um, I want to talkabout the rumble and I want to talk.
So you were on rumble three, Las Vegas.
Tell me about you just when, when I askyou about the rumble night, what is a,
what, what immediately stands out to you?
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Um, the crowd.
That was the biggest crowdthat I've been in front of.
That was the most intensivecrowd I've been in front of.
Like, the most engaging crowd.
Like, everybody, everybodycaught everything.
Um, there weren't any bad jokes per se.
Like, the crowd was, like,didn't need help with anything.
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They were, like, when you bring upthat night, I just bring up the crowd.
Cause, like, that wasreally, that was a fun time.
That was a good group ofpeople out there tonight.
It
was our, it was our, it was our, so farit was our highest selling rumble show.
And you're right.
Like they were, they were hot.
Like they were hot at the beginning andthey just, they just kept getting hotter.
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And one of my favoritethings about that night.
So that night was, you were on SethRobeshaw was on, uh, Jason Paxman,
who ended up winning, was on.
Mark Johnson, Essence,like so many great comics.
And what I loved about that night, thatfor me was the most special, is right
before we went out, I came into the greenroom, and we kind of had a little bit of
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a chat, and the invitation that I gaveto everyone was, listen to the audience.
Listen to what's going out there andlisten to each other, because sometimes,
at least when I started comedy, and Ithink it's pretty, I think that for anyone
who, for anyone who wants to be a comicor do work where the primary thing that
we're doing is talking, we like talking.
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Right.
We like the sound of our voice.
Generally, if I walk into a room andI wonder if you'll relate to this,
generally I walk into a room and I sortof assume not, I don't think it's in
an arrogant way, but I just kind of,my assumption is that I'm probably the
best person at talking in that room.
I know it.
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I just sort of assumelike whatever's happening.
I'll a hundred percent get behind.
Right.
I'm a hundred percent involved inwhatever's happening, but I just kind
of know that if everyone were listeningto me, we would be having a better
time.
Somebody that says it.
I'm not, I'm not being an asshole.
I'm not trying to be bossy or commandy.
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I just know I'm right.
So if
I wasn't, and for me, this is actuallyreally important because part of that,
I'm right for me has been a really, I'vehad to get really comfortable being wrong.
It's not about me being right for me.
It's about.
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I'm right because whatever I, whatever I,I'm attached to whatever I think is right.
So, and if I learned that it's notright, I have no, in fact, one of the
greatest gifts that I think I've everbeen given is that I grew up in a,
like a Mormon polygamist cult, right?
And so I was raised to believe that theentire world, except for like the 15, 000
members of our cult, they were wicked.
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Especially you black people.
You were the most wicked, whichtold, I mean, look at your hair.
Like obviously, obviously the
shadow of sometimes it's kind of creepy.
If you're
just like a skinny little polygamousboy walking down the street at night
and all of a sudden, it's a lot.
Right.
So I was raised that way.
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Where I thought the worldwas 6, 000 years old.
I thought that we were the most rightand the most righteous people ever.
And the most profound gift that I thinkI've ever been given in my life is the
real is realizing that that worldviewwas a hundred percent wrong, right?
That that world, it wasn'tjust a little bit wrong.
It was a hundred percent wrong.
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It was not tied to reality atall, which taught me that I can
be profoundly wrong about things.
Yeah, and then you got to be able to eatthe hell like I say all the time please
fuck up if I'm wrong I will throw my handsup and be like hey I thought I was right.
Right.
Like, I'm not gonna die on the hill.
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Like if I'm wrong, I'm wrong
because now no way, there's, I willnever, I will die on every hill until
it's obvious that I cannot, thatthat hill is not the right hill.
Yeah.
And then I get off that hill so fast.
Yeah.
Fuck that
hill.
I immediately, I'll flip my views so fast.
? Yes.
Like the camera could pan over tosomebody that I'm arguing with.
Pan back, I'm gone.
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I'm standing with them now.
Like that's
right.
And, and I honestly think, I thinkthat that is, I think that's probably
one of the reasons why you and I aredrawn to comedy is that I think that
comedy requires you to sort of have.
A light, simultaneously light and firmhold on your opinions, where it's like
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you really have to believe strongly inwhat you're saying, but you also have
to be able to sort of bounce aroundto a lot of different perspectives.
And, and also I found too, thisis one of the things I like doing
on stage is I found that it'sreally funny to be wrong on stage.
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So if I'm publicly wrong and then everyonegets to laugh at me being wrong and
then I get to be like, Oh, you guys,that's a really funny thing to do.
And, and, and I think it's actually one ofthe ways that I think comedy is pro social
is that we get to see stuff like that.
Act it out in public where it's okay tosay the wrong thing and then have that
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be funny because obviously I'm wrong.
Like
it's a joke.
Like I tell people, come on.
I'm joking, like, that's my, that'smy whole, everything I go out there,
I'm like, what do we, what do wereally, what are we really mad about?
Because growing up, right, we weren'tallowed to just have an opinion.
We had to prove it.
We had to, if we felt sometype of way, we had to say why.
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And not even on top of that, we had tosometimes argue against what we believed
in, so that way we can fully understandwhere somebody else is coming from.
Like, do you understand whythey would feel this way?
So I wasn't allowed to have an opinion.
Unless I can argue against it too.
And so now when I'm dealingwith people, it's like,
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I can be, they can get not flusteredor frustrated, but I'm like, Hey, I'm
arguing something that I already knowwhat you're about to come at me with.
So like, it takes, it takes the argument,it takes the air out the argument.
Right.
It's like, Oh, you such a know itall, you think you know it all.
I was like, it's not that I think Iknow it all, or I know I know it all.
I literally have to, for me, even ifI'm by myself, I have to prove myself
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right and wrong whenever I think aboutsomething like, why do I feel this way?
How can I back up why I feel this way?
And how can somebody think thatI shouldn't feel this way too?
So I already know I just,I'm just super prepared.
I'm not, I don't think I'm right.
I'm just really prepared.
And I love to argue too.
I will flip sides just to argue.
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And for me, it's really noteven about the argument.
It's like, it's aboutkeeping the thing alive.
Right?
Like what argument does, what comedy doesis comedy creates kind of like this thing
that we all sort of see and get to bea part of and we're bouncing it around.
Right?
So if I can argue every angle of a thing,I get to, we get to go over here with it.
We get to go over here with it.
(08:06):
Right.
There's all kinds of different waysthat we can make it, make it funny.
And like, you're such a master ofthat when just going back and like
looking at the, cause I've been editingclips of the rumble like all week.
And so I've been sort of deep in theweeds and first off your first match
up against Mark, Michael, uh, Marciniowas easily some of the best six
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minutes of comedy that I've ever seen.
The crowd was hot.
Michael went up, crushed.
You came out.
Crushed and then we broughtyou both up there and there was
this like huge energy, right?
This huge energy for both of you and likeMichael, it's like, Oh my, I did Michael.
And I'm like, Oh my God, Icould, I can't, I cannot imagine
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that kid is going to top this.
And then he did.
But one of the things you do in thatset that I love is you talk about your
confidence that you could a hundredpercent land an airplane, even though
you have never flown an airplane andhave no training, but you're just
like, yeah, I could definitely do that.
And when I say
could, I'm not saying I can and I will.
I'm saying there is, there is achance I could land the plane.
(09:13):
So don't take my, I'm like, I can do it.
Like, yeah, anybody onthis plane can do it.
It doesn't mean it's goingto be successful, but
I'm strong enough to try.
Right.
I'm strong enough to try.
And I think that really is that tome, I think is the essence of comedy.
And it's just like, like, let'sjust, let's, let's try it.
Let's see.
And, and then that willingness to see,I think, I think it actually creates
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a lot of success because if you boldlygo into any situation with the absurd
confidence, really, with the absurdconfidence of a white man, you go
into any situation with the absurd,undeserved confidence of a white man.
Generally, and so in some ways, I wouldjust like to maybe say that even though
white men have done terrible things,and I'm sorry for all the terrible
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things that we did, I would like tooffer as our gift to the world, everyone
should act like straight white men.
Oh yeah!
The absurd confidence of astraight white man that you can do
whatever you think you want to do.
Things
will change when you, like, noteven a can't beat em, join em.
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Type thing, but if you show white peoplehow white people act by acting like
white people, things will change so fast.
So fast.
They'll be like, we can't havepeople out here acting like this.
Like, this is what you guys are doing.
Like, this is what we're dealing with.
So now, let me do what you do.
But look like me?
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Perfect example.
Go a little history lesson, right?
California has some of thestrictest gun laws, right?
They used to be very loose on, uh,like open carry rifles, all that.
It wasn't until the Black Panthers startedorganizing and just walking down the
street with guns that they were like, no.
Rifles need to be, you have to go throughall these hoops, doo doo doo doo doo.
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The second you start doing what thepowers that be are doing, they'll be
like, we can't have them doing that.
They're going to just,they just add another hoop.
And so we just have to keep adding hoops.
And what a brilliant, what abrilliant way out of racism.
Like pretend and fake your way.
Like, and, and I also want tolike acknowledge to pretend and
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fake, but also there's a, there'sa substantial amount of courage
that is required to do that, right.
To show up in those spaces and to say,yo, you guys, we are going to, we're going
to show you the way that you are acting.
Even though we have more powerthan us and a history of not doing
great things with that power.
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Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
We're going to go ahead and do that.
And, and I think that that is one, Ithink it's obviously needed, right?
Like, like we talked a littlebit about this kind of before,
before we started recording, butI'm coming from a background of.
Having fully acknowledged and met withand I think dealt with my white supremacy.
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And what I mean by that is I a hundredpercent acknowledge and recognize that the
way that my brain was programmed, my brainwas programmed to be A white supremacist.
It was said, white is better.
White is best.
Everything else is second best.
Go do white things.
And that I think is absolute horse shitbecause white And that was from a cult.
(12:25):
From a cult.
Yeah.
So I grew up in like this teeny tinylittle white supremacist cult and
they were like, we are white people.
We are the most white people.
We're like white people dipped in bleachand, you know, slathered in flour.
And, and then we're going to goout into the world and we're going
to make the whole world white.
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And it didn't take me long.
Like really all it took me wasI, a couple of interactions with
people who were Brown, right?
I had a couple of interactions withpeople who were Brown and, and all,
and it immediately, it was like,It was like a light switch, right?
It was like, oh, obviously none of that,but I still had all of that programming.
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And because I still had all thatprogramming, I also saw all the
ways that other white peoplestill had that programming.
And I saw the way that theinstitutions and the structures
that we've created in America.
Are built that way, right?
Like to say, to say America is a whitesupremacist nation is not slander, right?
We're not, we're notsaying people are bad.
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What we're saying is this is a countrythat was built, the foundations and the
structure of this country were built tomake white people better, to empower white
people at the expense of everyone else.
And what's wild to me is I'm notsaying anything that you don't know,
You know, you, you've known that thewhole time, but, but I think that
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white people, because they don'texperience it and they think, Oh,
well, I'm not personally racist.
I'm not personally, I don'tpersonally think that I'm better.
We can get sort of get a littledefensive rather than I think the
appropriate thing to do, which isto just acknowledge that you're
wrong, acknowledge that you're wrong.
And then hopefully makesome kind of joke about it.
Right.
Where, where, where I try to step inand be like, like one of the things
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that happened and the rumble is.
You got like, you wentup against Jason Paxman.
Jason Paxman had broughta bunch of people.
He was crushing it too,like he was on fire.
You had brought like your family andyour mom especially I think was the one.
I think I had to shout down your mom.
And uh, and I neededa microphone to do it.
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And, uh, so both, and bothof you guys fucking killed,
like both of you guys killed.
And then there's this moment whereI try to listen to the audience
and it's the same amount of noise.
I pull out my phone.
You both hit the same decibel.
And so I'm like, okay, let's flip a coin.
And it's a George Washington quarter.
And you're immediately like, no,that, that motherfucker is a racist.
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Like we cannot do that.
And, and so that kind of becomesa joke, but it's also true.
Yeah,
it's also true.
No, especially to um, because thecrowd had the chance to I I'm not
gonna lie When I went back up and Iwas like all three black people lost to
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different forms of white people, right?
Like essence essence lostto just a white lady, right?
Just really white lady.
All right.
Yeah No, no essence lost toset Essence did lose to Seth.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Seth, gay, white man, who some people,not, not him particularly, but people
would just be like, Oh, gay, white man.
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They are caricatures of black women.
Right.
So Seth lost to a gay white man.
It was Mark that lost to the white woman.
Right.
I can't
Mark, Mark lost to Jason.
No,
I
lost
to Jason.
But Mark lost to Jason in round one.
Oh, that's right.
Okay.
Mark loses to Jason.
And then, so, um, And Jason, Jasonwas on the podcast last week.
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Jason looks like a white supremacist.
Yeah.
That's what I was going to say.
The dread head lost to the skinhead.
And then the black woman lost to the gayman, and then the dread, and then the
skinhead just took out the black light.
Took out two of them.
And they were all like,back to back to back.
I tried to remind the crowd, I'm like,hey, just so you guys know, the past
two comics eliminated looked like me.
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So this is your chance.
This is your chance to be onthe right side of history.
Somebody somewhere has to standup and say, and say, okay.
And the timing was even, was even,cause not only was there, that was
such a great moment too, right?
Because, and what I loved about thatdude is you were listening, right?
You were listening.
You knew what had happened.
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You were aware of, and not only that, youwere also aware of, there was, because not
only was that happening in that moment inthat room, but also the wider context is
this is November, uh, 15th or 16th, right?
So it's like 10 days after all ofAmerica looked at a, Competent black
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woman and an orange Cheeto and theywere like, you know who we would like?
The orange Cheeto, please.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That had just happened.
Why?
Cause he had the confidence.
Cause he had the, cause hesat there and he was like,
I can fly this motherfucking plane.
Yeah.
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He called like, and I'm in no wayendorsing, supporting whatever does.
I don't even like getting political, butwhen you just look at it, what it is,
Since 2016, since 2016, Trump has beenlike, I'm going to be in the White House.
He goes to a 16, he loses in 20.
He says, I'm coming back.
Not only am I coming back, we're goingto try to take it over right now.
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And then for the past fouryears, Trump is everywhere.
Trump has been on the campaigntrail for the past four years.
And he's like, I'm going to win.
And then Kamala, she wasn'tsaying I'm going to win.
She's like, I believe we're going to win.
Uh, I think I have a chance.
Like why we're going to,we're going to beat him.
She wasn't saying we're going to win.
She's like, we can beat Donald Trump.
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She wasn't trying to win.
She was trying to beat Donald Trump.
Which that one gave her thedub, but the like, the, the
fine line in between each one.
And so like, when we come in, I, whenI do things, I have to be like, I
have to think that I'm going to win.
I have, I already have my celebration,I have my acceptance speech, I have
what like, whatever I like, Thefuture I live in, I've already won.
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And so that's how I go up on stage.
I've already won.
I've just got to do it now.
And, and honestly, dude, I think,I think there's something really
powerful about the, the mentality ofthat, because what humans do, right.
Is we, we live, we're thesephysical creatures, right.
But we also are these, these mentalcreatures who have created, because
we can't, we can't directly interactwith the world that we live in.
(18:52):
Right.
We have to do it through our sensesand through what, like, so literally
what's happening is every humanis creating kind of a mental model
of their universe and whatever itis that you think is what you see.
And so if you go into asituation and you think.
I'm going to win.
I will be successful and it'salmost, almost to a maddening, like,
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like Donald Trump, like, again,don't really want to get political.
I don't want to,
especially
like I do, I don't want to beseen to be endorsing that man.
But what I will say isthere are two things.
One is his willingness to just gointo absurd confidence and then
act in that absurd confidence.
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And me?
And then double down on it.
He doubled down and he doublesdown on everything, right?
So let's take that skilland let's give it to people.
Let's, let's give it to allthe other people, right?
Let's give that, that energyto the Kamalas of the future.
Right?
And then the second thing that DonaldTrump does really, really well, I think is
Donald Trump is really good at listening.
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He goes out to these rallies, whichI, he goes out to these rallies
and he just starts saying shit.
And this is what he did in 2016.
And, and like every goodcomic knows that's what we do.
We just all, the only reasonthat we're funny, well, we have
a good sense for funny, but we'realso constantly saying shit.
and listening to how itlands with other people.
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And so Donald Trump got to go in front ofthousands of people and run his mouth and
listen to which parts of what he said gottraction and then he just doubles down on
them and it doesn't matter if it doesn'tmatter if Mexico is actually going to
build the wall what matters is there aremillions of people in America who love
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to hear Donald Trump say I'm gonna builda wall and Mexico's gonna pay for it.
It's a
bit, right?
He's doing a bit and he's doing abit with such confidence that he's
actually now in, in the White House.
He taught, he confidencedhimself into the world leader.
Yeah.
Yeah, he did.
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And if Donald Trump can do that, I thinkthat you and I and the rest of the people
who are involved in Comedy Rumble and therest of all, all, all the comedians of
the world, I think that we can confidenceour way into a world that's not racist.
Yeah, that's fair play, that is takencare of, or yeah, or flying airplanes.
(21:24):
Yeah, exactly.
A hundred percent.
I think that.
Oh man.
I feel like we got on the line.
I'm trying to bring us, bringus maybe back to, so there
was, there's this coin toss.
Oh, I wanted to talk aboutthe energy of the room.
Right?
So, so we're, we're inthis, we're in this point.
Um, I've watched, I watched the recordingso many times and there's this moment
(21:46):
where in fact, maybe do you wantto, do you want to watch it with me?
Okay.
Let me, let me see if I can pull it up.
Comedy Rumble, LasVegas, Rumble 3, Round 2.
Let me see if I can share this.
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Cause this dude is really one of the,one of the fun things about the Rumble is
that I get to be on stage and sort of inthe energy of other comics and, and also
in the energy of the experience, right?
Cause the experience is such because ofthe competition that it's so, there's
so much really high energy aroundthe competition, the eliminations.
(22:34):
Um, this particular momentwas just so, oh my God.
And you're so fucking funny, dude.
Appreciate that.
Let's just, in fact, I just want to do,because look at, look at what the fuck
you're doing in this, share, share sound.
(23:12):
Your sound went away, brother.
Can you see this?
So I want to just, number one, I want tothank you for getting the, the color memo.
So you were paying attention andeveryone was just coordinated that
night because look, we've got.
(23:32):
You in red, or black with like a littlered stripe, um, there's, her name's
Alex, I met her after the show, she'ssitting on the front row, bright red
hair, you've got a cute little red hatover here, which looks kind of MAGA,
but it wasn't, it was something else,but it is kind of funny that, that
it's red right there, um, but lookat, just watching you is such a treat.
And a lot of people be like,I couldn't live with my mom,
(23:53):
bro, that ain't who I am.
I can't do that are me, right?
One.
I know how to communicate.
So I have a microphone.
I know how to talk.
Two, I'm really goodat setting boundaries.
Mom, stay in your room.
And I have friends in room
and three, I'm reallygood at convincing women.
Oh, let's go to your room.
So one, just listening to them, right?
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You are.
You are crushing it right now.
It's so fun.
And then we get to you.
Keep going.
You keep going.
You're hilarious.
Then we get to, where is it?
Okay, so then I come up.
And again, Red.
(24:40):
What the hell?
I'm like, get back here!
I didn't hear you.
Through all that, Ireally did not hear you.
I know because your brain wasdoing something more interesting.
I was already at five and I'mlike, I did what I needed to do.
I can go do whatever now.
(25:01):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So then you, you're back.
My brain is your brain.
Okay.
Oh God.
So then, then I, this is greatbecause then this is the moment
when I realize and I'm aware, right?
I'm like, I know I'm the host andI'm white and I'm like, oh my god,
we've already eliminated, eliminatedEssence and we've eliminated Mark and
(25:24):
now we have, now this is number three.
And so I primed him up like, I'mlike, y'all, like, pay attention.
I'm so glad this
is not my job right
now.
So I just
want y'all to rememberwhat you've already done.
What all
of us have already done.
Let's
make it, let's make
it work.
(25:47):
If you would like to see Jason go through
the round three, make some noise.
I love this question.
You're asking, is it how long it goes?
(26:08):
Because that's going to come intoplay in about, in about 20 seconds.
Who can go into the longest?
Which, number one, is it?
Amazing energy for Jason, right?
And Jason, Jason had come out,Jason had done, he'd killed.
He'd been doing a great.
So he, he, and what I love the mostabout this rumble is, and we kind of
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referenced this earlier, but everyonedid their job, like every single
one showed up and did their best.
And because of that, we all collectivelygot to have a fantastic night, which
I, I was, nobody left, nobody left.
Everyone was there.
Everyone was like in that.
And it was such a magic energyto be in to like, I, it felt like
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I, there were so many momentswhere I felt like I was floating.
Yeah.
Like, uh, like when I was going upthere again, this was the biggest
crowd that I'd been in front of.
And to be completely honest, thatfirst round, even like before my round
with Jason, when I was going againstMichael, I had so much time to prepare
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for that first minute of unused comedy.
Right.
And then.
Like two days before theactual rumble, I finally got
an idea of something I can say.
And so I'm not even reallylistening to Michael's round as he's
going, like I'm paying attention.
But I'm just sitting therelike just going over my joke,
just like going over my joke.
Because the second the lights hit me, Ilose like the first 10 seconds of my joke.
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And then I just like go from there.
But I was like, okay, I'm gonnasay this, I'm gonna say this, I'm
gonna say this, I'm gonna say this.
And then I was listening to Michaeland he says something about having
the confidence to do something.
And the whole joke that I preppedfor the past three days, I was
like, I'm not doing any of that.
I'm not confident in that joke.
And I went up there, I'mlike, what am I confident in?
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Yes!
And it's like you say, just listen,just listen to what they were saying.
Well, and, and not only that,cause I would, maybe we'll jump
back and show that clip too,because what you do there is great.
Cause you come out with this reallygreat joke, but also because you were
listening, you knew that there was a wholecrew of white dudes in the front row.
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Who were from
and
so we're farmers.
And so who definitely had donesomething with a tractor at some point.
And so not something you wereconfident in and you've been
listening to what's been going on.
And so you were able to stepin and there's this fantastic,
cause you get in there.
It's funny.
You're talking about airplanes andthen you're like, I play tractor
simulator and a tractor can't bethat different from an airplane.
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And then you go, you guys knowsomething about tractors, right?
Boom.
Right.
Big eruption from them.
And then that got a bigger upbecause everyone saw them reacting.
And so just masterfully done.
And why?
Because you had confidence andbecause you were listening, right?
So there's this delicatebalance of we got to have both.
If you just go in with confidence andyou just barrel over everything that's
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happening, You're not going to connect.
And if you just go in with listening,if you go into soft, then you're
not, you're not the commander.
And, and no matter what style of comedyyou do, what everyone who sees you,
whatever, what everyone in the audienceactually wants is for you to be in charge.
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They want you to be in charge.
They want you to take them on a journey.
And, and if you don't do that, thenthey're going to do something else.
I need to go up there and say,I'm funny, you're gonna laugh, and
you're gonna pay attention too.
Otherwise, the side conversationsstart, the phones come out, da
da da, it's, it's really, It'sreally fast to lose the crowd.
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And so you have, like, when Icome up there, I'm like, it's like
you said, you just got to hit it.
You got to hit it and be payingattention to what you're hitting too.
Otherwise you're justgoing to push people off.
Yeah.
So, uh, I've, I've now been becomeaware of the potential, uh, racist
train that we're going to run into.
And I'm like, please, youraudience do not do it.
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Think about, cause not only, notonly had Kamala just happened
literally the night before.
and a crazy thing that Istill cannot understand.
Jake Paul somehow beat Mike Tyson.
So we have a, uh, uh, uh, an orange Cheetoman defeating a competent white woman.
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And then we have a young, just absurdlyoverconfident YouTuber, white YouTuber
beat up an accomplished black legend.
So that
is the full That was elder abuse.
We watched, we watched like10 rounds of just elder abuse.
You're not putting anybody else's65 year old grandpa in the ring.
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No,
we're not.
But it's Mike Tyson, and he's crazy, andso of course we can do it to him, right?
Right, but if you,
even if you watch like recent MikeTyson videos, he's a lot more chill
now, except for that interviewhe did with that little girl.
That was so funny when he said thatlife is meaningless and after you
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die, there's nothing else after she'she's been interviewed by like a 14
year old girl besides that crazy MikeTyson he was he's like look I just I
used to fight I'm calm now Sure, I'llput on a show for you guys and he got
like 28 year old prime of his life fit
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Just whooping on the old man, bro.
Full of like all of thisunearned white confidence, right?
Just full of like, I havemillions of views on YouTube.
And
so
I'm gonna He knows he'sgoing into the history books.
He's fueled by like At some 50years from now, they're gonna talk
about Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson,which is the crazy thing to say
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right now, today, still right.
Especially, especially because ifyou put 28-year-old Mike Tyson up
against Jake Paul, Jake Paul wouldbe, would, wouldn't exist anymore.
He would be boxing.
They wouldn't sanction
a
fight.
They would not
They're like, he wants to fight.
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Who?
No, get away from me.
What are you talking about?
You're crazy.
So that's the context that is going on.
And then that brings us to this moment,which this is, this is arguably one of my
very favorite moments on stage, because Ilove to me, comedy is all energy, right?
It's all about, it's all aboutplaying with the energy of humans.
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And I think it's really a sacredthing that we do because we're,
people are coming to our show.
They're giving us their energy.
And then we get to do.
Something fun with it.
And so, and I love the energy thateveryone gives right here and especially
the energy that gets given to you.
Cause some people really showup for you, uh, right here.
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I'm trying to get, I'mtrying to get it back.
I'm like, okay, well,most of this is done.
I have the microphone.
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I am the talking stick.
I am the, I am in charge.
Such a great moment.
And then, so all of that gets out andthen, and then I feel all of that.
And so I'm like, I waslike, that's really intense.
And then we do the decibel measurerand then we do the coin toss.
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But what I, the reason I want toshow that is The energy there, right?
And the, the, the gift, I wanted touse that to sort of highlight the
gift of what it is that we do andthe opportunity that sort of baked
into what we do, because we have theopportunity to sort of step into a role.
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Where everyone kind of channelstheir energy through us.
Right.
So a whole bunch of people in thataudience saw themselves in you and wanted
to like fill you up with that energy.
And that, that was to me areally beautiful thing to watch.
Like it was really, reallybeautiful to see you on stage.
To see you thriving, to see youstepping in, like to have that
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audience throughout the whole show, sogenerously give you their energy and
then for you to, to deserve it so well.
So I think what I want to say there isI just want to thank you and compliment
you and say, thanks for, thanks forbeing up to the energetic task of, of
channeling all of that energy for us.
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And thanks for giving us a lot of energy.
Really, really good show.
Um, and, and throwing all of yourselfinto what you did that night.
Oh, it was dope.
Um, that night and the experience ofit with the crowd, everything that
happened, cause like Jason, I've beendoing comedy or that was his 11 time.
I've been doing comedy for about a year,maybe, and have had nothing like that
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to, to the point, like to this day.
And so I knew like when I watchedcomics and like, I watched a lot
of YouTube comedy, like, uh, likethe don't tell comedy, the dry bar.
Um, Chocolate Sundaes, LaughFactory, all that, right?
Like they're always showingclips of just underground comics
of people doing their thing.
And some of them be really rockingthe room to the point where
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like everything they say is justflowing and going and going.
And I was like, I want like,when I started doing comedy,
I was like, that's my goal.
One of my, my side missionis to be a cool comic, right?
I've always just wanted to go up there.
Hand in pocket and I just talk andit's just killing the crowd, but
that's not who I am really because Ineed to like, I to do with my hands.
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You know what I'm saying?
So like the, I have the drink.
That wasn't even a joke.
That's real.
Like if I'm talking with just with nomicrophone or like with nothing in my
hand, This hand's all over the place.
When I'm sitting here,this keeps me locked in.
It's almost like a littleanchor, a little focus beam.
And so, to go out with the type of comicthat I am, like it wasn't the cool comic,
but it was still the energetic hypecomic, and then still everything was
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hidden on point like it was supposed to,and I could just flow and flow and flow.
That was A really great experience forme as far as like how the rumble goes.
And that's like, I don't know, it's,it's, it's hard to put in words, but like
to want to recreate that and have thattype of energy and that type of crowd,
that's what, that's what it was about.
That's what I need, like me losing.
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That's whatever.
Losing by a coin toss, I would ratherhave lost by the coin toss than by
somebody actually being funnier than me.
So, to lose, to say, you know what I mean?
Like, so I was cool with it.
And then, all the attentionthat I got afterwards, too,
was like, Hey, you were robbed.
It should've been you.
It should've been you.
I got at least 20, it should've been yous.
And even that right there was like,Okay, so tonight was a good night.
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Like, I didn't lose.
Excuse me.
I didn't lose, like I didn't win, butlike, I, I definitely did not lose that.
And I like, it was, that was a good time.
Dude, there, there are two things thatI want to, I want to say in response to
that, cause one is I want to just, I wantto thank you for seeing the rumble for
what it is, which is that ability to.
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I didn't win, but I didn't lose.
Right.
Because the thing that I think isreally cool is that, um, everyone
walked off that stage looking good.
So as sort of a, as sort of a, um, uh,not a hack as sort of a gimmick, we've
created a show that creates competition.
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Right.
And that competitioncreates a sense of movement.
It builds energy in a certain way.
And for whatever reason, humans,we like to see some people win
and some people lose, right?
Like that's, that's a fun thing for us.
We enjoy that.
And so the, the structure is designedto do that, but there's a way to do it
in, in which everyone wins where all ofthe comics and it really comes down to.
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How does every comicshow up in that space?
Do they understand that, that everythingthat happens is in service to the show.
And if we all sort of, if we all losefocus of ourselves and say, it's not
about me, it's about the show and thenthrow our energy show, then the show
becomes fabulous and when the showis fabulous and we are in the show
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doing our best, we also look fabulous.
Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
I think it brought, it brought out thebest in everything and everybody too.
Crowd too, like even though the crowdwasn't on stage, the crowd was performing.
And you don't have, you don'thave comedy without the crowd.
Otherwise you just have anarcissist with a microphone.
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So like, so like everybody, everybodycame through to make it what it was.
Cause like what's really dopeand kind of hard for me sometimes
watching, like watching my clips thatI've been sent, um, is the laugh.
It sounds like a look I was likelike And that's a good thing.
You know what I'm saying?
It doesn't sound like a fake laughlike the way when I say a joke and
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then the crowd comes in, it soundslike the shit that you see on TV.
And I was like, yo, that's,and I'm like, that's me.
Like, I'm like, I have the laughtrack, but it's not a laugh track.
Like people actually take a shotevery time I say laugh track.
It's what's really happening.
You so tuned in to what's going on.
That, that it's your feet.
And I love, I love to your,your attunement, right?
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That the audience is performing too.
And that's something that I, I believethat, that, that in fact, that's one
of the, one of the reasons I startthe show with breathing and why I
start the show with, with chair cultis I actually want to subtly tell
the audience, this is also on you.
You guys want a good show tonight,then you need to give us your attention
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and you need to be open just like,just like if I'm, if I ask someone
on a date and I'm like, look, doyou want to go on a date with me?
And do you want to have a fun date ordo you want to have a not fun date?
And if you want to have a fun date.
You've got to be open to me.
You've got to be opento what I got to try.
You got to try, right?
You got to kind of make an effort, right?
And if you're, if both people are makingan effort, then you have a fun date.
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And if the both, if the audience andthe comic are both making an effort,
you're going to have a fun show.
Exactly.
Cause I was like, I'll tell you something.
If it's funny, laugh.
It's okay to laugh.
Like, even if you think it's funny andyou like, you're not a laughing person.
If you laugh is telling me like,okay, I'm doing something right.
I'm going to keep giving me,it's a semiotic relationship.
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I want to tell a joke.
You're going to laugh.
I want the laughter.
You want the jokes.
I got the jokes, the jokes.
I already know.
It's funny.
I want the laughter.
That's how, that's how it comes back in.
So like, for example, Iwas at the last rumble too.
And, um, How you said it with the,uh, the crowd has to be engaged.
It's not going to be, it's not going tobe funny unless like you're willing to be
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like, okay, these guys can make me laugh.
Not like you're, youhave to make me laugh.
Yeah.
Make, make me laugh.
Right.
Like nobody's makinganybody laugh doing that.
You got to put hands on, but withthe last, uh, show, I was that.
That moan in the back when you didthe breathing exercise, because
I can already tell that the crowdwas like teeter tottering, right?
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They didn't know, they're like,is this going to be a good show?
It's going to da da da.
And so you said you need a audible exhale.
I was like,
Yeah,
everybody's like, okay, it's okayto be, it's okay to be foolish.
Like, this is a spot for laughs.
Stop taking it so serious.
Thank you.
Thank you for doing this becauseyou're so that the last rumble we had.
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So the one you were on112, this one, we had 47.
So it was a smaller audience.
And with a smaller audience, there'salways a little bit of a risk.
And, but we were able to get to thesame place because everyone opened up.
And, and that, I rememberthat moment, right?
I get up there and I can feel them.
There's some, there's some chittering,but there's also some reservedness.
And so I'm like, okay, we do this.
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And there's you, you do that moan.
Yeah.
And that makes everyone laugh.
And what's great.
I love about that is, is getting, havingeveryone laugh and having it not be
the person on stage, having it be themfirst, if they make themselves laugh
first, then it's like, okay, now we're
there,
right?
You're already, you'vealready opened yourselves up.
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Okay.
Now I can step into it.
And we had, again, we had a fantasticrumble because even though the
audience was small, they did theirjob and then the comics did their job.
Yeah.
Absolutely, yeah.
You have to show people, notonly is it okay to laugh, it's
okay to laugh at yourself, too.
Like, I've been to a few comedyshows, like, uh, like Chico Bean, for
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example, from Wildin Out, where, like,you know, buy tickets, it's sold out,
they're in front of, like, two, three,four, five thousand people, whatever.
And the comic will ask the question andI'll answer but I wasn't actually like
listening to like I said something wrongAnd the comic oh this dumbass nigga It's
like i'm laughing still all the peoplearound a lot of people be embarrassed
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or get mad Like, you know how hecklersthey get offended when the comic throws
something back at them and it's likeno, we're supposed to be talking shit.
We're supposed to be cracking these jokes.
And so even when I interact with likebigger comics and I say something and
I'm wrong and it can be embarrassingand now he goes off on like a three
minute joke where he's roasting me.
I know one, he can't even see me.
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Two, he doesn't know who I am.
I'm probably never going to see him again.
And three, all the people who are aroundme laughing at me, I don't know them.
They don't pay my rent.
I don't give a fuck about these guys.
So they can laugh at me all they want.
I'm about to go home.
Like, at the end of theday, I'm going home.
And I had a good time at the same time.
So, like, people have to realizecomedy, comedy is really, really tough.
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I used to make music and I'veperformed, like, I've gone to
different states to do concerts.
I've opened up for people.
Music is, I don't want to say easy,because that's disrespecting a lot of
people and the craft of what they do,but there's a lot more room for error
when you're performing music, right?
And comedy.
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You gotta, you have to be so on point.
That you need that crowd toalso come through for you.
It's like, okay, I'm doing my part.
I need you guys to come throughon here and be like, Hey, this
is going to be a good time.
You guys got to step in too.
Yeah.
Oh, I love that.
That's such a, it's such a sophisticatedway to think about the audience.
And I think that's why, why you,that's why you connect so well.
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The other thing I want to keep us ontrack, cause we're, we're about out of
time, but the other thing I wanted to justtalk about real, real briefly, um, was.
What kind of what you said about thathaving been your biggest crowd and sort
of, it was a, it was sort of a new levelfor you and that is, I love that you said
that because that's literally the reasonwhy I made the rumble is that when I
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started comedy, I started doing open mics.
And then I got lucky because I met a guywho coached me and when he coached me,
he was a little more successful comic.
And so he had, he had shows on weekendswhere he would put me on to open.
So I got the opportunity about threemonths into my comedy career of opening
for a hot crowd on a Saturday night.
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Oh, fire.
That changed me because suddenly itwas like, it was like, I'd been kind of
playing down in the foothills and then allof a sudden I was up on the mountaintop
and I could see, I was like, Oh, this,this is the level where it can be at.
And so then when I went down into thisother, into this sort of other area where.
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It's an open mic crowd is justdifferent than a, than a weekend crowd.
I still had this memory, right?
I knew what that sounded like, soI could sort of play with it and
it helped me kind of move along.
And what I wanted to do with the rumbleis I wanted to give other comics who
were like me, who were starting out,who maybe didn't have the cred or the
relationships or whatever it is to,to be able to get on a weekend stage,
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I wanted to say, if you'll come here.
And you will, you'll bust your assand you'll do work and you'll do,
and you'll, you'll throw your energyinto this thing that I've created.
You will get the opportunity to steponto a hot weekend stage and you'll be
able to what that feels and feel whatthat feels like, and you'll be able to
experience what that does for your craft.
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And that's dope.
Uh, the Rumble definitely, it definitelyhas the opportunity there for people to
do, like, I had to make a new Instagramafter the Rumble because people, because
my personal Instagram is set to private.
I really don't like, I like interactingwith people, making friends, whatever.
But I've learned that, like, you gottakeep the good stuff to yourself, right?
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You, like, this world, there's a lotof people out there who just, you know,
They don't hate you, but they hatethat, like, you, they don't have the
happiness, whatever, that you have.
When you're showing things andyou're sharing your happiness,
there are people that are tryingto take your happiness away.
So I keep my personal profileprivate, and that's for people
who, like, actually know me.
I want to talk to these people, da da da.
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I had ad, I was close to adding,like, 20 or 30 new people.
On my personal page that I'mlike, I like, no offense.
I'm glad you guys liked me.
I'm glad you guys want to follow me.
You're my fans.
I don't want you in my personal life.
I just want you to know meas the, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No kid cute.
And so I had to, and so, andthat's because of the rumble.
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And so what you're doing, I appreciatethat because every week you get.
Or not every week, but every Rumble,you get a bunch of comics that
somebody probably hasn't heard of,and there's a lot of talent out there.
It's just the market's so flooded.
There's so much talent outthere in the, in the Rumble.
If you do it right, and it's executedright, you put the work in and
the crowd's there, you have a realopportunity to build momentum and, and
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you can't dictate where you're going,but you're definitely able to push.
The direction that you want tobe in a little, a little bit in
the universe would do the rest.
And what I love about it too, is I'm, I'msort of coming from, coming at this from
a perspective of if I am, if I am, uh,disciplined and intentional in the way
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that I give and create opportunities forother people, that will be good for me.
That, that me giving to other peoplewill sort of create this energetic
movement that will then come backand it will lift me up as well.
And so being able to really focuson that, it's like an energy orgy.
Exactly.
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And what's beautiful about that isI have endless energy for giving.
If I believe that my giving justnaturally is going to bring me the things
that I need, I, I have endless energyfor putting people like you on shows.
I have endless energy for creatingopportunities to, cause I agree with you.
I, I go to open mics and I talk tocomics and I, I see these people out
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here and, and there are, especiallyin low in the local comedy scenes
that I've seen in Salt Lake and in LasVegas, there are incredibly talented,
Funny and hardworking comics that somepeople will never get an opportunity
to see or experience because they'renot, because right now they're in this,
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they're on this level and they're notlike selling out stadiums, but who says
you have to sell out a stadium in orderto be Uh, in order to be funny, right?
In order to have a awesome experience,you don't have to go like, sure, fucking
go to a stadium if that's where yourfavorite comic is, but also recognize that
you could come to a local comedy club andwith the right structure, you could see.
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Incredibly funny shit.
Incredibly funny shit.
And it's just people wholive in your neighborhood.
It's just people.
And you never know whatyou're going to see.
I went to a mic one time.
It wasn't the open mic.
It was a, uh, was it theDirty at 1230 at South Point.
Right?
And I don't know how theyfind people to go on there.
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So I was just there as a,in the crowd and this French
frilliquist comes up here, right?
And And I'm excited.
So I'm like, all right, thisis dope, you know, every, every
form of comedy is something.
But the way he's doing it is he'snot like not moving his mouth.
He's just covering his mouth.
So he has, he has the parrot orwhatever the fuck's on his arm.
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He's like, so how's the weather today?
Oh, I don't know.
The weather's going pretty nice.
And I'm like, yo, this isn't real.
And so like the crowd, like, no, atfirst, there's a couple of laughs at
first, cause they think it's part of thebit and then he's going to jump into it.
His entire 10 minute set was himcovered, just having a conversation
with us and he doesn't slow down.
He doesn't stop.
He doesn't ask thecrowd's paying attention.
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I'm the only one in the crowd laughing.
Because you don't have much of a,I don't give a fuck you have to
have to go up there and do bathsand triloquies for 10 minutes.
That's funny.
Everybody there was mad because theirtime, they felt their time's been wasted.
I'm like, yo, this is, thisguy's This is hilarious.
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Even if he did waste their time,wasting someone's time with bad
ventriloquism at an open mic at 1230in Las Vegas is a spectacular joke.
That is spectacular.
And his ability to just fuckingown it and be like, yeah, this
is what we're doing, y'all.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
He's like, no,
I'm talking.
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I'm talking and then I'm also talking.
Also talking.
Dude, I've had so much fun.
I do want to wrap this up and I wrap, Ilike to wrap up by asking two questions.
Um, and then I'll have, ifthere's anything you want to
pitch, you can pitch it and thenwe'll, we'll, we'll wrap it up.
Um, but on the subject of theapocalypse and the end of the world.
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Um, I, I sort of think, like, I lookout at where we're at in America,
and to me, it looks like we are inthe final acts of the United States
of America, season 12 or whatever.
Okay.
And like all good seasons, youknow, there's going to be something
cataclysmic, something crazy.
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But I also think that there is a lot of,I think there's a lot of opportunity when
things get crazy like they are right now.
And I think that the opportunity is that.
When, when things sort of get fuzzy,we can kind of remake the world.
And so what I'm interested in is, do yousort of see the fuzziness in the world?
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And if there was a way where you could,if there's something from the old
world that you could sort of like letdie or be remade into the new world.
What would, what would youwant to, if you could, like,
you're, you're, you're the king.
You get to speak it into themicrophone and it becomes real.
What is that thing
from the old world To the new world?
Yeah.
What's, what's the thing calledold that, that need, that needs to
(53:31):
kind of like go into something new?
I think there needs tobe more street fights.
Yes.
Tell me more.
Yeah, I think, I think peoplegetting arrested if it's, if it's
too consent, like I would evensay duals, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
One second.
Oof.
I'm getting a call and I don't know why.
(53:53):
Can you hear me still?
Is everything, like,nothing's interrupted?
Yeah.
So you were
saying,
bring duels back.
Yeah.
Like, let's start with street fights.
Let's see how that goes.
Cause it used to be, you know, yougo out, you bump into somebody,
something happens, disagreement,whatever, whatever the case is, right?
You go out there.
Street fight and at theend of the day you go home.
It's all good.
(54:14):
Now, if you find somebody, youboth get arrested, you both go
to jail, boom, boom, boom, boom.
If, if there was a threat that you mighthave to get into a fight, more prevalent,
I think the world would be a better place.
I 100 percent agree.
When everybody had a revolver, wheneverybody had a revolver on the hip and
an Indian man, and it can be like, hey,12, we're going to shoot at each other.
(54:36):
There was less drama.
This guy might shoot me.
You know what I'm saying?
There should be.
I think, I think we need less logs.
I think we have gotten too soft as humans.
We are too, we are too comfortable.
We think that it's, wethink that death is bad.
And I do think that, I do think thatI don't like it when people die.
(54:56):
I think that that is asad thing when people die.
And I think that peoplecould die and get hurt more.
If they die, if people died and gothurt, if there were more immediate
consequences for stupid behavior, it Theworld would have less stupid people in it.
And so I think a street fight or aduel is a fantastic, we would have
fewer dumb racists if, if therewas a consequence for being right.
(55:21):
Like if, if I'm not walking down thestreet, I'm not actually racist to a
couple of, to someone who looks like you.
Cause you're going tobeat the shit out of me.
You're going to punchsomebody in the mouth.
You're going to punchsomebody in the mouth.
If you think you're going to hit in themouth, you're not going to say anything.
Right.
I love this.
Okay, great.
Four seconds.
(55:47):
I'm sorry, man.
Can I get like 30 secondsreal quick, really?
Yep.
Awesome.
Y'all leaving right now?
(56:31):
You don't care!
Yeah, I don't.
Hey, Preston.
I don't miss you.
I don't be here.
I just get to be with you.
Love and support.
Love and support.
Love and support.
(57:00):
Sorry about that, brother.
I got fat leaving.
No problem.
I'll just make, I'll make a note of it andwe'll, and we're about any wrapped anyway.
So I want to, I want to let you go.
So second question is, um, if we, if, ifthis apocalypse goes south and we have
to like start surviving in crazy ways.
What apocalyptic skill do youhave that you could teach me?
(57:24):
That I can teach you?
Yeah.
Uh, we can shoot dice.
I'm a really good, like, dice shooter.
So if we need to gamble from resources,I'll keep a pair of dice for me.
And obviously you gotta, causeyou gotta throw, you gotta snap.
There's a snap involvedwhen you're throwing dice.
And that's just that gamble.
You gotta, you gotta snap.
(57:45):
That's the limp wrist.
It's gotta be tight.
You can't, don't referenceit, it's the whole, yeah.
It's the You black people!
Like, like channel your inner quickness.
Okay,
mm.
Okay.
Mm.
Throw it.
After you're Hit it with a snack.
(58:09):
It's just like, uh huh.
I got, I got a case of water, I gota case of water, you got a banana.
Somebody's going home with both.
I'm going home with both.
Ah!
Ah, it's you.
Uh huh.
Yeah.
Uh huh.
Hopefully this time.
From now on, from now on you will be,because we will only have non racist, uh,
(58:29):
chance things involved in Comedy Rumble.
Dude, it was so fun tohave you on the podcast.
Where can people find you?
Is there anything that youwant to promote coming up?
Uh, talk about yourself.
Um, so KQ.
That's the name, don't wear it out, or do.
Uh, you can follow me on Instagram,kqcomedy, all one word, k y d q.
(58:50):
Uh, next week, which is December10th, there's the hand me down
mic at Zone Las Vegas, S O H N.
It's hosted by my good friend,it's George Louisville.
It's a once a month mic, uh, butit's open for, it's mostly a comic
mic, but they have it open forpoetry as well and spoken word.
And it's real dope venues in the attic ofthis like little vintage clothing store.
(59:14):
You go upstairs, it's a smallroom, probably 30, 40 people,
and it sells out every month.
It gets, it reaches capacityevery month, so if you want to
go, you got to get there quick.
They do it once a month, December10th is this month, and then I'm
co hosting the January event too.
We don't have a date for itjust yet, but if you follow on
Instagram, it's GeorgeLouisFool.
(59:35):
And hand me down Mike at hand me down,Mike, you'll get all the details for it.
And it's a really dope show, more localartists, familiar faces that you've seen.
And it's just a good way to pushthe community forward as far as
like everybody coming together.
And again, it sells out every time.
So if you want to come up and performin front of 30, 40 people, for sure,
(59:56):
guaranteed, this is the place to do it.
Awesome.
Cool.
I, and I'll, I'll grab any links thatyou have from those for those and
share them in the show notes as well.
Um, for me coming up this.
Probably coming out onFriday, December 6th.
So tonight I've got our comedyrumble in Salt Lake City at the
Rickles Room at the Wise Guys.
It's at nine o'clock.
Um, that's going to be thefirst one of our winter season.
(01:00:17):
So we've already done the fallseason and wrapped it for comedy
rumble up here in Salt Lake.
We're kicking off the new winterseason tomorrow night or tonight.
Um, cause we're recording Thursdaytonight, or December 6th at 9
PM at Wise Guys in Salt Lake.
And then next Sunday.
On the, uh, I think it's the 15th.
(01:00:38):
Let's see.
Yep.
On December 15th, I'll be back in Vegasfor Comedy Rumble 5, uh, at 930, the
wise guys and in the arts district again.
So if you want to come out and check outthat show, it's going to be super sick.
And again, you can always followme at The Fresh King Benjamin on
Instagram, uh, TikTok, and YouTube.
And, uh, that's it for us today.
(01:00:59):
So, thanks for coming on, man.
I appreciate you.
Hey, bro.
Thank you again.
Thanks for the opportunity.
Shout out Comedy Rumble, brother.
What you're doing is really, you'reputting your stamp on whatever.
There's not much that we can do inthis world that we have control over.
And what you do have controlover, you have full control over.
And it's really dope, brother.
You're doing a thing.
(01:01:19):
Thank you.
Awesome.
Thanks.
I appreciate that.
I, I feel that.
Uh, talk soon.
You are, you are my first podcast.
You, you're taking, you'retaking the podcast, uh, cherry.
I, I am going to be so, um, uh, sogentle until you don't want me to be
gentle and then I will be vigorous.
Just, just walk me through it.
Let me breathe.
I'll,
I'll, I'll whisper in your ear.
(00:41):
I'll be like, you're doing a great job.
Relax.
Words of affirmation for sure.
Exactly.
I'll just, I'll affirmyou all the time, dude.
I want to talk about, um, I want to talkabout the rumble and I want to talk.
So you were on rumble three, Las Vegas.
Tell me about you just when, when I askyou about the rumble night, what is a,
what, what immediately stands out to you?
(01:02):
Um, the crowd.
That was the biggest crowdthat I've been in front of.
That was the most intensivecrowd I've been in front of.
Like, the most engaging crowd.
Like, everybody, everybodycaught everything.
Um, there weren't any bad jokes per se.
Like, the crowd was, like,didn't need help with anything.
(01:23):
They were, like, when you bring upthat night, I just bring up the crowd.
Cause, like, that wasreally, that was a fun time.
That was a good group ofpeople out there tonight.
It
was our, it was our, it was our, so farit was our highest selling rumble show.
And you're right.
Like they were, they were hot.
Like they were hot at the beginning andthey just, they just kept getting hotter.
(01:43):
And one of my favoritethings about that night.
So that night was, you were on SethRobeshaw was on, uh, Jason Paxman,
who ended up winning, was on.
Mark Johnson, Essence,like so many great comics.
And what I loved about that night, thatfor me was the most special, is right
before we went out, I came into the greenroom, and we kind of had a little bit of
(02:04):
a chat, and the invitation that I gaveto everyone was, listen to the audience.
Listen to what's going out there andlisten to each other, because sometimes,
at least when I started comedy, and Ithink it's pretty, I think that for anyone
who, for anyone who wants to be a comicor do work where the primary thing that
we're doing is talking, we like talking.
(02:26):
Right.
We like the sound of our voice.
Generally, if I walk into a room andI wonder if you'll relate to this,
generally I walk into a room and I sortof assume not, I don't think it's in
an arrogant way, but I just kind of,my assumption is that I'm probably the
best person at talking in that room.
I know it.
(02:49):
I just sort of assumelike whatever's happening.
I'll a hundred percent get behind.
Right.
I'm a hundred percent involved inwhatever's happening, but I just kind
of know that if everyone were listeningto me, we would be having a better
time.
Somebody that says it.
I'm not, I'm not being an asshole.
I'm not trying to be bossy or commandy.
(03:09):
I just know I'm right.
So if
I wasn't, and for me, this is actuallyreally important because part of that,
I'm right for me has been a really, I'vehad to get really comfortable being wrong.
It's not about me being right for me.
It's about.
(03:29):
I'm right because whatever I, whatever I,I'm attached to whatever I think is right.
So, and if I learned that it's notright, I have no, in fact, one of the
greatest gifts that I think I've everbeen given is that I grew up in a,
like a Mormon polygamist cult, right?
And so I was raised to believe that theentire world, except for like the 15, 000
members of our cult, they were wicked.
(03:50):
Especially you black people.
You were the most wicked, whichtold, I mean, look at your hair.
Like obviously, obviously the
shadow of sometimes it's kind of creepy.
If you're
just like a skinny little polygamousboy walking down the street at night
and all of a sudden, it's a lot.
Right.
So I was raised that way.
(04:11):
Where I thought the worldwas 6, 000 years old.
I thought that we were the most rightand the most righteous people ever.
And the most profound gift that I thinkI've ever been given in my life is the
real is realizing that that worldviewwas a hundred percent wrong, right?
That that world, it wasn'tjust a little bit wrong.
It was a hundred percent wrong.
(04:31):
It was not tied to reality atall, which taught me that I can
be profoundly wrong about things.
Yeah, and then you got to be able to eatthe hell like I say all the time please
fuck up if I'm wrong I will throw my handsup and be like hey I thought I was right.
Right.
Like, I'm not gonna die on the hill.
(04:52):
Like if I'm wrong, I'm wrong
because now no way, there's, I willnever, I will die on every hill until
it's obvious that I cannot, thatthat hill is not the right hill.
Yeah.
And then I get off that hill so fast.
Yeah.
Fuck that
hill.
I immediately, I'll flip my views so fast.
? Yes.
Like the camera could pan over tosomebody that I'm arguing with.
Pan back, I'm gone.
(05:13):
I'm standing with them now.
Like that's
right.
And, and I honestly think, I thinkthat that is, I think that's probably
one of the reasons why you and I aredrawn to comedy is that I think that
comedy requires you to sort of have.
A light, simultaneously light and firmhold on your opinions, where it's like
(05:35):
you really have to believe strongly inwhat you're saying, but you also have
to be able to sort of bounce aroundto a lot of different perspectives.
And, and also I found too, thisis one of the things I like doing
on stage is I found that it'sreally funny to be wrong on stage.
(05:56):
So if I'm publicly wrong and then everyonegets to laugh at me being wrong and
then I get to be like, Oh, you guys,that's a really funny thing to do.
And, and, and I think it's actually one ofthe ways that I think comedy is pro social
is that we get to see stuff like that.
Act it out in public where it's okay tosay the wrong thing and then have that
(06:18):
be funny because obviously I'm wrong.
Like
it's a joke.
Like I tell people, come on.
I'm joking, like, that's my, that'smy whole, everything I go out there,
I'm like, what do we, what do wereally, what are we really mad about?
Because growing up, right, we weren'tallowed to just have an opinion.
We had to prove it.
We had to, if we felt sometype of way, we had to say why.
(06:40):
And not even on top of that, we had tosometimes argue against what we believed
in, so that way we can fully understandwhere somebody else is coming from.
Like, do you understand whythey would feel this way?
So I wasn't allowed to have an opinion.
Unless I can argue against it too.
And so now when I'm dealingwith people, it's like,
(07:01):
I can be, they can get not flusteredor frustrated, but I'm like, Hey, I'm
arguing something that I already knowwhat you're about to come at me with.
So like, it takes, it takes the argument,it takes the air out the argument.
Right.
It's like, Oh, you such a know itall, you think you know it all.
I was like, it's not that I think Iknow it all, or I know I know it all.
I literally have to, for me, even ifI'm by myself, I have to prove myself
(07:24):
right and wrong whenever I think aboutsomething like, why do I feel this way?
How can I back up why I feel this way?
And how can somebody think thatI shouldn't feel this way too?
So I already know I just,I'm just super prepared.
I'm not, I don't think I'm right.
I'm just really prepared.
And I love to argue too.
I will flip sides just to argue.
(07:44):
And for me, it's really noteven about the argument.
It's like, it's aboutkeeping the thing alive.
Right?
Like what argument does, what comedy doesis comedy creates kind of like this thing
that we all sort of see and get to bea part of and we're bouncing it around.
Right?
So if I can argue every angle of a thing,I get to, we get to go over here with it.
We get to go over here with it.
(08:06):
Right.
There's all kinds of different waysthat we can make it, make it funny.
And like, you're such a master ofthat when just going back and like
looking at the, cause I've been editingclips of the rumble like all week.
And so I've been sort of deep in theweeds and first off your first match
up against Mark, Michael, uh, Marciniowas easily some of the best six
(08:28):
minutes of comedy that I've ever seen.
The crowd was hot.
Michael went up, crushed.
You came out.
Crushed and then we broughtyou both up there and there was
this like huge energy, right?
This huge energy for both of you and likeMichael, it's like, Oh my, I did Michael.
And I'm like, Oh my God, Icould, I can't, I cannot imagine
(08:49):
that kid is going to top this.
And then he did.
But one of the things you do in thatset that I love is you talk about your
confidence that you could a hundredpercent land an airplane, even though
you have never flown an airplane andhave no training, but you're just
like, yeah, I could definitely do that.
And when I say
could, I'm not saying I can and I will.
I'm saying there is, there is achance I could land the plane.
(09:13):
So don't take my, I'm like, I can do it.
Like, yeah, anybody onthis plane can do it.
It doesn't mean it's goingto be successful, but
I'm strong enough to try.
Right.
I'm strong enough to try.
And I think that really is that tome, I think is the essence of comedy.
And it's just like, like, let'sjust, let's, let's try it.
Let's see.
And, and then that willingness to see,I think, I think it actually creates
(09:36):
a lot of success because if you boldlygo into any situation with the absurd
confidence, really, with the absurdconfidence of a white man, you go
into any situation with the absurd,undeserved confidence of a white man.
Generally, and so in some ways, I wouldjust like to maybe say that even though
white men have done terrible things,and I'm sorry for all the terrible
(09:58):
things that we did, I would like tooffer as our gift to the world, everyone
should act like straight white men.
Oh yeah!
The absurd confidence of astraight white man that you can do
whatever you think you want to do.
Things
will change when you, like, noteven a can't beat em, join em.
(10:18):
Type thing, but if you show white peoplehow white people act by acting like
white people, things will change so fast.
So fast.
They'll be like, we can't havepeople out here acting like this.
Like, this is what you guys are doing.
Like, this is what we're dealing with.
So now, let me do what you do.
But look like me?
(10:39):
Perfect example.
Go a little history lesson, right?
California has some of thestrictest gun laws, right?
They used to be very loose on, uh,like open carry rifles, all that.
It wasn't until the Black Panthers startedorganizing and just walking down the
street with guns that they were like, no.
Rifles need to be, you have to go throughall these hoops, doo doo doo doo doo.
(11:00):
The second you start doing what thepowers that be are doing, they'll be
like, we can't have them doing that.
They're going to just,they just add another hoop.
And so we just have to keep adding hoops.
And what a brilliant, what abrilliant way out of racism.
Like pretend and fake your way.
Like, and, and I also want tolike acknowledge to pretend and
(11:23):
fake, but also there's a, there'sa substantial amount of courage
that is required to do that, right.
To show up in those spaces and to say,yo, you guys, we are going to, we're going
to show you the way that you are acting.
Even though we have more powerthan us and a history of not doing
great things with that power.
(11:43):
Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
We're going to go ahead and do that.
And, and I think that that is one, Ithink it's obviously needed, right?
Like, like we talked a littlebit about this kind of before,
before we started recording, butI'm coming from a background of.
Having fully acknowledged and met withand I think dealt with my white supremacy.
(12:04):
And what I mean by that is I a hundredpercent acknowledge and recognize that the
way that my brain was programmed, my brainwas programmed to be A white supremacist.
It was said, white is better.
White is best.
Everything else is second best.
Go do white things.
And that I think is absolute horse shitbecause white And that was from a cult.
(12:25):
From a cult.
Yeah.
So I grew up in like this teeny tinylittle white supremacist cult and
they were like, we are white people.
We are the most white people.
We're like white people dipped in bleachand, you know, slathered in flour.
And, and then we're going to goout into the world and we're going
to make the whole world white.
(12:46):
And it didn't take me long.
Like really all it took me wasI, a couple of interactions with
people who were Brown, right?
I had a couple of interactions withpeople who were Brown and, and all,
and it immediately, it was like,It was like a light switch, right?
It was like, oh, obviously none of that,but I still had all of that programming.
(13:06):
And because I still had all thatprogramming, I also saw all the
ways that other white peoplestill had that programming.
And I saw the way that theinstitutions and the structures
that we've created in America.
Are built that way, right?
Like to say, to say America is a whitesupremacist nation is not slander, right?
We're not, we're notsaying people are bad.
(13:26):
What we're saying is this is a countrythat was built, the foundations and the
structure of this country were built tomake white people better, to empower white
people at the expense of everyone else.
And what's wild to me is I'm notsaying anything that you don't know,
You know, you, you've known that thewhole time, but, but I think that
(13:49):
white people, because they don'texperience it and they think, Oh,
well, I'm not personally racist.
I'm not personally, I don'tpersonally think that I'm better.
We can get sort of get a littledefensive rather than I think the
appropriate thing to do, which isto just acknowledge that you're
wrong, acknowledge that you're wrong.
And then hopefully makesome kind of joke about it.
Right.
Where, where, where I try to step inand be like, like one of the things
(14:11):
that happened and the rumble is.
You got like, you wentup against Jason Paxman.
Jason Paxman had broughta bunch of people.
He was crushing it too,like he was on fire.
You had brought like your family andyour mom especially I think was the one.
I think I had to shout down your mom.
And uh, and I neededa microphone to do it.
(14:32):
And, uh, so both, and bothof you guys fucking killed,
like both of you guys killed.
And then there's this moment whereI try to listen to the audience
and it's the same amount of noise.
I pull out my phone.
You both hit the same decibel.
And so I'm like, okay, let's flip a coin.
And it's a George Washington quarter.
And you're immediately like, no,that, that motherfucker is a racist.
(14:54):
Like we cannot do that.
And, and so that kind of becomesa joke, but it's also true.
Yeah,
it's also true.
No, especially to um, because thecrowd had the chance to I I'm not
gonna lie When I went back up and Iwas like all three black people lost to
(15:15):
different forms of white people, right?
Like essence essence lostto just a white lady, right?
Just really white lady.
All right.
Yeah No, no essence lost toset Essence did lose to Seth.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Seth, gay, white man, who some people,not, not him particularly, but people
would just be like, Oh, gay, white man.
(15:35):
They are caricatures of black women.
Right.
So Seth lost to a gay white man.
It was Mark that lost to the white woman.
Right.
I can't
Mark, Mark lost to Jason.
No,
I
lost
to Jason.
But Mark lost to Jason in round one.
Oh, that's right.
Okay.
Mark loses to Jason.
And then, so, um, And Jason, Jasonwas on the podcast last week.
(15:57):
Jason looks like a white supremacist.
Yeah.
That's what I was going to say.
The dread head lost to the skinhead.
And then the black woman lost to the gayman, and then the dread, and then the
skinhead just took out the black light.
Took out two of them.
And they were all like,back to back to back.
I tried to remind the crowd, I'm like,hey, just so you guys know, the past
two comics eliminated looked like me.
(16:19):
So this is your chance.
This is your chance to be onthe right side of history.
Somebody somewhere has to standup and say, and say, okay.
And the timing was even, was even,cause not only was there, that was
such a great moment too, right?
Because, and what I loved about thatdude is you were listening, right?
You were listening.
You knew what had happened.
(16:40):
You were aware of, and not only that, youwere also aware of, there was, because not
only was that happening in that moment inthat room, but also the wider context is
this is November, uh, 15th or 16th, right?
So it's like 10 days after all ofAmerica looked at a, Competent black
(17:02):
woman and an orange Cheeto and theywere like, you know who we would like?
The orange Cheeto, please.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That had just happened.
Why?
Cause he had the confidence.
Cause he had the, cause hesat there and he was like,
I can fly this motherfucking plane.
Yeah.
(17:22):
He called like, and I'm in no wayendorsing, supporting whatever does.
I don't even like getting political, butwhen you just look at it, what it is,
Since 2016, since 2016, Trump has beenlike, I'm going to be in the White House.
He goes to a 16, he loses in 20.
He says, I'm coming back.
Not only am I coming back, we're goingto try to take it over right now.
(17:44):
And then for the past fouryears, Trump is everywhere.
Trump has been on the campaigntrail for the past four years.
And he's like, I'm going to win.
And then Kamala, she wasn'tsaying I'm going to win.
She's like, I believe we're going to win.
Uh, I think I have a chance.
Like why we're going to,we're going to beat him.
She wasn't saying we're going to win.
She's like, we can beat Donald Trump.
(18:05):
She wasn't trying to win.
She was trying to beat Donald Trump.
Which that one gave her thedub, but the like, the, the
fine line in between each one.
And so like, when we come in, I, whenI do things, I have to be like, I
have to think that I'm going to win.
I have, I already have my celebration,I have my acceptance speech, I have
what like, whatever I like, Thefuture I live in, I've already won.
(18:29):
And so that's how I go up on stage.
I've already won.
I've just got to do it now.
And, and honestly, dude, I think,I think there's something really
powerful about the, the mentality ofthat, because what humans do, right.
Is we, we live, we're thesephysical creatures, right.
But we also are these, these mentalcreatures who have created, because
we can't, we can't directly interactwith the world that we live in.
(18:52):
Right.
We have to do it through our sensesand through what, like, so literally
what's happening is every humanis creating kind of a mental model
of their universe and whatever itis that you think is what you see.
And so if you go into asituation and you think.
I'm going to win.
I will be successful and it'salmost, almost to a maddening, like,
(19:15):
like Donald Trump, like, again,don't really want to get political.
I don't want to,
especially
like I do, I don't want to beseen to be endorsing that man.
But what I will say isthere are two things.
One is his willingness to just gointo absurd confidence and then
act in that absurd confidence.
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And me?
And then double down on it.
He doubled down and he doublesdown on everything, right?
So let's take that skilland let's give it to people.
Let's, let's give it to allthe other people, right?
Let's give that, that energyto the Kamalas of the future.
Right?
And then the second thing that DonaldTrump does really, really well, I think is
Donald Trump is really good at listening.
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He goes out to these rallies, whichI, he goes out to these rallies
and he just starts saying shit.
And this is what he did in 2016.
And, and like every goodcomic knows that's what we do.
We just all, the only reasonthat we're funny, well, we have
a good sense for funny, but we'realso constantly saying shit.
and listening to how itlands with other people.
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And so Donald Trump got to go in front ofthousands of people and run his mouth and
listen to which parts of what he said gottraction and then he just doubles down on
them and it doesn't matter if it doesn'tmatter if Mexico is actually going to
build the wall what matters is there aremillions of people in America who love
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to hear Donald Trump say I'm gonna builda wall and Mexico's gonna pay for it.
It's a
bit, right?
He's doing a bit and he's doing abit with such confidence that he's
actually now in, in the White House.
He taught, he confidencedhimself into the world leader.
Yeah.
Yeah, he did.
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And if Donald Trump can do that, I thinkthat you and I and the rest of the people
who are involved in Comedy Rumble and therest of all, all, all the comedians of
the world, I think that we can confidenceour way into a world that's not racist.
Yeah, that's fair play, that is takencare of, or yeah, or flying airplanes.
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Yeah, exactly.
A hundred percent.
I think that.
Oh man.
I feel like we got on the line.
I'm trying to bring us, bringus maybe back to, so there
was, there's this coin toss.
Oh, I wanted to talk aboutthe energy of the room.
Right?
So, so we're, we're inthis, we're in this point.
Um, I've watched, I watched the recordingso many times and there's this moment
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where in fact, maybe do you wantto, do you want to watch it with me?
Okay.
Let me, let me see if I can pull it up.
Comedy Rumble, LasVegas, Rumble 3, Round 2.
Let me see if I can share this.
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Cause this dude is really one of the,one of the fun things about the Rumble is
that I get to be on stage and sort of inthe energy of other comics and, and also
in the energy of the experience, right?
Cause the experience is such because ofthe competition that it's so, there's
so much really high energy aroundthe competition, the eliminations.
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Um, this particular momentwas just so, oh my God.
And you're so fucking funny, dude.
Appreciate that.
Let's just, in fact, I just want to do,because look at, look at what the fuck
you're doing in this, share, share sound.
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Your sound went away, brother.
Can you see this?
So I want to just, number one, I want tothank you for getting the, the color memo.
So you were paying attention andeveryone was just coordinated that
night because look, we've got.
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You in red, or black with like a littlered stripe, um, there's, her name's
Alex, I met her after the show, she'ssitting on the front row, bright red
hair, you've got a cute little red hatover here, which looks kind of MAGA,
but it wasn't, it was something else,but it is kind of funny that, that
it's red right there, um, but lookat, just watching you is such a treat.
And a lot of people be like,I couldn't live with my mom,
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bro, that ain't who I am.
I can't do that are me, right?
One.
I know how to communicate.
So I have a microphone.
I know how to talk.
Two, I'm really goodat setting boundaries.
Mom, stay in your room.
And I have friends in room
and three, I'm reallygood at convincing women.
Oh, let's go to your room.
So one, just listening to them, right?
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You are.
You are crushing it right now.
It's so fun.
And then we get to you.
Keep going.
You keep going.
You're hilarious.
Then we get to, where is it?
Okay, so then I come up.
And again, Red.
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What the hell?
I'm like, get back here!
I didn't hear you.
Through all that, Ireally did not hear you.
I know because your brain wasdoing something more interesting.
I was already at five and I'mlike, I did what I needed to do.
I can go do whatever now.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
So then you, you're back.
My brain is your brain.
Okay.
Oh God.
So then, then I, this is greatbecause then this is the moment
when I realize and I'm aware, right?
I'm like, I know I'm the host andI'm white and I'm like, oh my god,
we've already eliminated, eliminatedEssence and we've eliminated Mark and
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now we have, now this is number three.
And so I primed him up like, I'mlike, y'all, like, pay attention.
I'm so glad this
is not my job right
now.
So I just
want y'all to rememberwhat you've already done.
What all
of us have already done.
Let's
make it, let's make
it work.
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If you would like to see Jason go through
the round three, make some noise.
I love this question.
You're asking, is it how long it goes?
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Because that's going to come intoplay in about, in about 20 seconds.
Who can go into the longest?
Which, number one, is it?
Amazing energy for Jason, right?
And Jason, Jason had come out,Jason had done, he'd killed.
He'd been doing a great.
So he, he, and what I love the mostabout this rumble is, and we kind of
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referenced this earlier, but everyonedid their job, like every single
one showed up and did their best.
And because of that, we all collectivelygot to have a fantastic night, which
I, I was, nobody left, nobody left.
Everyone was there.
Everyone was like in that.
And it was such a magic energyto be in to like, I, it felt like
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I, there were so many momentswhere I felt like I was floating.
Yeah.
Like, uh, like when I was going upthere again, this was the biggest
crowd that I'd been in front of.
And to be completely honest, thatfirst round, even like before my round
with Jason, when I was going againstMichael, I had so much time to prepare
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for that first minute of unused comedy.
Right.
And then.
Like two days before theactual rumble, I finally got
an idea of something I can say.
And so I'm not even reallylistening to Michael's round as he's
going, like I'm paying attention.
But I'm just sitting therelike just going over my joke,
just like going over my joke.
Because the second the lights hit me, Ilose like the first 10 seconds of my joke.
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And then I just like go from there.
But I was like, okay, I'm gonnasay this, I'm gonna say this, I'm
gonna say this, I'm gonna say this.
And then I was listening to Michaeland he says something about having
the confidence to do something.
And the whole joke that I preppedfor the past three days, I was
like, I'm not doing any of that.
I'm not confident in that joke.
And I went up there, I'mlike, what am I confident in?
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Yes!
And it's like you say, just listen,just listen to what they were saying.
Well, and, and not only that,cause I would, maybe we'll jump
back and show that clip too,because what you do there is great.
Cause you come out with this reallygreat joke, but also because you were
listening, you knew that there was a wholecrew of white dudes in the front row.
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Who were from
and
so we're farmers.
And so who definitely had donesomething with a tractor at some point.
And so not something you wereconfident in and you've been
listening to what's been going on.
And so you were able to stepin and there's this fantastic,
cause you get in there.
It's funny.
You're talking about airplanes andthen you're like, I play tractor
simulator and a tractor can't bethat different from an airplane.
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And then you go, you guys knowsomething about tractors, right?
Boom.
Right.
Big eruption from them.
And then that got a bigger upbecause everyone saw them reacting.
And so just masterfully done.
And why?
Because you had confidence andbecause you were listening, right?
So there's this delicatebalance of we got to have both.
If you just go in with confidence andyou just barrel over everything that's
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happening, You're not going to connect.
And if you just go in with listening,if you go into soft, then you're
not, you're not the commander.
And, and no matter what style of comedyyou do, what everyone who sees you,
whatever, what everyone in the audienceactually wants is for you to be in charge.
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They want you to be in charge.
They want you to take them on a journey.
And, and if you don't do that, thenthey're going to do something else.
I need to go up there and say,I'm funny, you're gonna laugh, and
you're gonna pay attention too.
Otherwise, the side conversationsstart, the phones come out, da
da da, it's, it's really, It'sreally fast to lose the crowd.
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And so you have, like, when Icome up there, I'm like, it's like
you said, you just got to hit it.
You got to hit it and be payingattention to what you're hitting too.
Otherwise you're justgoing to push people off.
Yeah.
So, uh, I've, I've now been becomeaware of the potential, uh, racist
train that we're going to run into.
And I'm like, please, youraudience do not do it.
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Think about, cause not only, notonly had Kamala just happened
literally the night before.
and a crazy thing that Istill cannot understand.
Jake Paul somehow beat Mike Tyson.
So we have a, uh, uh, uh, an orange Cheetoman defeating a competent white woman.
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And then we have a young, just absurdlyoverconfident YouTuber, white YouTuber
beat up an accomplished black legend.
So that
is the full That was elder abuse.
We watched, we watched like10 rounds of just elder abuse.
You're not putting anybody else's65 year old grandpa in the ring.
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No,
we're not.
But it's Mike Tyson, and he's crazy, andso of course we can do it to him, right?
Right, but if you,
even if you watch like recent MikeTyson videos, he's a lot more chill
now, except for that interviewhe did with that little girl.
That was so funny when he said thatlife is meaningless and after you
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die, there's nothing else after she'she's been interviewed by like a 14
year old girl besides that crazy MikeTyson he was he's like look I just I
used to fight I'm calm now Sure, I'llput on a show for you guys and he got
like 28 year old prime of his life fit
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Just whooping on the old man, bro.
Full of like all of thisunearned white confidence, right?
Just full of like, I havemillions of views on YouTube.
And
so
I'm gonna He knows he'sgoing into the history books.
He's fueled by like At some 50years from now, they're gonna talk
about Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson,which is the crazy thing to say
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right now, today, still right.
Especially, especially because ifyou put 28-year-old Mike Tyson up
against Jake Paul, Jake Paul wouldbe, would, wouldn't exist anymore.
He would be boxing.
They wouldn't sanction
a
fight.
They would not
They're like, he wants to fight.
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Who?
No, get away from me.
What are you talking about?
You're crazy.
So that's the context that is going on.
And then that brings us to this moment,which this is, this is arguably one of my
very favorite moments on stage, because Ilove to me, comedy is all energy, right?
It's all about, it's all aboutplaying with the energy of humans.
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And I think it's really a sacredthing that we do because we're,
people are coming to our show.
They're giving us their energy.
And then we get to do.
Something fun with it.
And so, and I love the energy thateveryone gives right here and especially
the energy that gets given to you.
Cause some people really showup for you, uh, right here.
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I'm trying to get, I'mtrying to get it back.
I'm like, okay, well,most of this is done.
I have the microphone.
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I am the talking stick.
I am the, I am in charge.
Such a great moment.
And then, so all of that gets out andthen, and then I feel all of that.
And so I'm like, I waslike, that's really intense.
And then we do the decibel measurerand then we do the coin toss.
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But what I, the reason I want toshow that is The energy there, right?
And the, the, the gift, I wanted touse that to sort of highlight the
gift of what it is that we do andthe opportunity that sort of baked
into what we do, because we have theopportunity to sort of step into a role.
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Where everyone kind of channelstheir energy through us.
Right.
So a whole bunch of people in thataudience saw themselves in you and wanted
to like fill you up with that energy.
And that, that was to me areally beautiful thing to watch.
Like it was really, reallybeautiful to see you on stage.
To see you thriving, to see youstepping in, like to have that
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audience throughout the whole show, sogenerously give you their energy and
then for you to, to deserve it so well.
So I think what I want to say there isI just want to thank you and compliment
you and say, thanks for, thanks forbeing up to the energetic task of, of
channeling all of that energy for us.
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And thanks for giving us a lot of energy.
Really, really good show.
Um, and, and throwing all of yourselfinto what you did that night.
Oh, it was dope.
Um, that night and the experience ofit with the crowd, everything that
happened, cause like Jason, I've beendoing comedy or that was his 11 time.
I've been doing comedy for about a year,maybe, and have had nothing like that
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to, to the point, like to this day.
And so I knew like when I watchedcomics and like, I watched a lot
of YouTube comedy, like, uh, likethe don't tell comedy, the dry bar.
Um, Chocolate Sundaes, LaughFactory, all that, right?
Like they're always showingclips of just underground comics
of people doing their thing.
And some of them be really rockingthe room to the point where
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like everything they say is justflowing and going and going.
And I was like, I want like,when I started doing comedy,
I was like, that's my goal.
One of my, my side missionis to be a cool comic, right?
I've always just wanted to go up there.
Hand in pocket and I just talk andit's just killing the crowd, but
that's not who I am really because Ineed to like, I to do with my hands.
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You know what I'm saying?
So like the, I have the drink.
That wasn't even a joke.
That's real.
Like if I'm talking with just with nomicrophone or like with nothing in my
hand, This hand's all over the place.
When I'm sitting here,this keeps me locked in.
It's almost like a littleanchor, a little focus beam.
And so, to go out with the type of comicthat I am, like it wasn't the cool comic,
but it was still the energetic hypecomic, and then still everything was
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hidden on point like it was supposed to,and I could just flow and flow and flow.
That was A really great experience forme as far as like how the rumble goes.
And that's like, I don't know, it's,it's, it's hard to put in words, but like
to want to recreate that and have thattype of energy and that type of crowd,
that's what, that's what it was about.
That's what I need, like me losing.
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That's whatever.
Losing by a coin toss, I would ratherhave lost by the coin toss than by
somebody actually being funnier than me.
So, to lose, to say, you know what I mean?
Like, so I was cool with it.
And then, all the attentionthat I got afterwards, too,
was like, Hey, you were robbed.
It should've been you.
It should've been you.
I got at least 20, it should've been yous.
And even that right there was like,Okay, so tonight was a good night.
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Like, I didn't lose.
Excuse me.
I didn't lose, like I didn't win, butlike, I, I definitely did not lose that.
And I like, it was, that was a good time.
Dude, there, there are two things thatI want to, I want to say in response to
that, cause one is I want to just, I wantto thank you for seeing the rumble for
what it is, which is that ability to.
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I didn't win, but I didn't lose.
Right.
Because the thing that I think isreally cool is that, um, everyone
walked off that stage looking good.
So as sort of a, as sort of a, um, uh,not a hack as sort of a gimmick, we've
created a show that creates competition.
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Right.
And that competitioncreates a sense of movement.
It builds energy in a certain way.
And for whatever reason, humans,we like to see some people win
and some people lose, right?
Like that's, that's a fun thing for us.
We enjoy that.
And so the, the structure is designedto do that, but there's a way to do it
in, in which everyone wins where all ofthe comics and it really comes down to.
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How does every comicshow up in that space?
Do they understand that, that everythingthat happens is in service to the show.
And if we all sort of, if we all losefocus of ourselves and say, it's not
about me, it's about the show and thenthrow our energy show, then the show
becomes fabulous and when the showis fabulous and we are in the show
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doing our best, we also look fabulous.
Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
I think it brought, it brought out thebest in everything and everybody too.
Crowd too, like even though the crowdwasn't on stage, the crowd was performing.
And you don't have, you don'thave comedy without the crowd.
Otherwise you just have anarcissist with a microphone.
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So like, so like everybody, everybodycame through to make it what it was.
Cause like what's really dopeand kind of hard for me sometimes
watching, like watching my clips thatI've been sent, um, is the laugh.
It sounds like a look I was likelike And that's a good thing.
You know what I'm saying?
It doesn't sound like a fake laughlike the way when I say a joke and
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then the crowd comes in, it soundslike the shit that you see on TV.
And I was like, yo, that's,and I'm like, that's me.
Like, I'm like, I have the laughtrack, but it's not a laugh track.
Like people actually take a shotevery time I say laugh track.
It's what's really happening.
You so tuned in to what's going on.
That, that it's your feet.
And I love, I love to your,your attunement, right?
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That the audience is performing too.
And that's something that I, I believethat, that, that in fact, that's one
of the, one of the reasons I startthe show with breathing and why I
start the show with, with chair cultis I actually want to subtly tell
the audience, this is also on you.
You guys want a good show tonight,then you need to give us your attention
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and you need to be open just like,just like if I'm, if I ask someone
on a date and I'm like, look, doyou want to go on a date with me?
And do you want to have a fun date ordo you want to have a not fun date?
And if you want to have a fun date.
You've got to be open to me.
You've got to be opento what I got to try.
You got to try, right?
You got to kind of make an effort, right?
And if you're, if both people are makingan effort, then you have a fun date.
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And if the both, if the audience andthe comic are both making an effort,
you're going to have a fun show.
Exactly.
Cause I was like, I'll tell you something.
If it's funny, laugh.
It's okay to laugh.
Like, even if you think it's funny andyou like, you're not a laughing person.
If you laugh is telling me like,okay, I'm doing something right.
I'm going to keep giving me,it's a semiotic relationship.
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I want to tell a joke.
You're going to laugh.
I want the laughter.
You want the jokes.
I got the jokes, the jokes.
I already know.
It's funny.
I want the laughter.
That's how, that's how it comes back in.
So like, for example, Iwas at the last rumble too.
And, um, How you said it with the,uh, the crowd has to be engaged.
It's not going to be, it's not going tobe funny unless like you're willing to be
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like, okay, these guys can make me laugh.
Not like you're, youhave to make me laugh.
Yeah.
Make, make me laugh.
Right.
Like nobody's makinganybody laugh doing that.
You got to put hands on, but withthe last, uh, show, I was that.
That moan in the back when you didthe breathing exercise, because
I can already tell that the crowdwas like teeter tottering, right?
(41:54):
They didn't know, they're like,is this going to be a good show?
It's going to da da da.
And so you said you need a audible exhale.
I was like,
Yeah,
everybody's like, okay, it's okayto be, it's okay to be foolish.
Like, this is a spot for laughs.
Stop taking it so serious.
Thank you.
Thank you for doing this becauseyou're so that the last rumble we had.
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So the one you were on112, this one, we had 47.
So it was a smaller audience.
And with a smaller audience, there'salways a little bit of a risk.
And, but we were able to get to thesame place because everyone opened up.
And, and that, I rememberthat moment, right?
I get up there and I can feel them.
There's some, there's some chittering,but there's also some reservedness.
And so I'm like, okay, we do this.
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And there's you, you do that moan.
Yeah.
And that makes everyone laugh.
And what's great.
I love about that is, is getting, havingeveryone laugh and having it not be
the person on stage, having it be themfirst, if they make themselves laugh
first, then it's like, okay, now we're
there,
right?
You're already, you'vealready opened yourselves up.
(42:59):
Okay.
Now I can step into it.
And we had, again, we had a fantasticrumble because even though the
audience was small, they did theirjob and then the comics did their job.
Yeah.
Absolutely, yeah.
You have to show people, notonly is it okay to laugh, it's
okay to laugh at yourself, too.
Like, I've been to a few comedyshows, like, uh, like Chico Bean, for
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example, from Wildin Out, where, like,you know, buy tickets, it's sold out,
they're in front of, like, two, three,four, five thousand people, whatever.
And the comic will ask the question andI'll answer but I wasn't actually like
listening to like I said something wrongAnd the comic oh this dumbass nigga It's
like i'm laughing still all the peoplearound a lot of people be embarrassed
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or get mad Like, you know how hecklersthey get offended when the comic throws
something back at them and it's likeno, we're supposed to be talking shit.
We're supposed to be cracking these jokes.
And so even when I interact with likebigger comics and I say something and
I'm wrong and it can be embarrassingand now he goes off on like a three
minute joke where he's roasting me.
I know one, he can't even see me.
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Two, he doesn't know who I am.
I'm probably never going to see him again.
And three, all the people who are aroundme laughing at me, I don't know them.
They don't pay my rent.
I don't give a fuck about these guys.
So they can laugh at me all they want.
I'm about to go home.
Like, at the end of theday, I'm going home.
And I had a good time at the same time.
So, like, people have to realizecomedy, comedy is really, really tough.
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I used to make music and I'veperformed, like, I've gone to
different states to do concerts.
I've opened up for people.
Music is, I don't want to say easy,because that's disrespecting a lot of
people and the craft of what they do,but there's a lot more room for error
when you're performing music, right?
And comedy.
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You gotta, you have to be so on point.
That you need that crowd toalso come through for you.
It's like, okay, I'm doing my part.
I need you guys to come throughon here and be like, Hey, this
is going to be a good time.
You guys got to step in too.
Yeah.
Oh, I love that.
That's such a, it's such a sophisticatedway to think about the audience.
And I think that's why, why you,that's why you connect so well.
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The other thing I want to keep us ontrack, cause we're, we're about out of
time, but the other thing I wanted to justtalk about real, real briefly, um, was.
What kind of what you said about thathaving been your biggest crowd and sort
of, it was a, it was sort of a new levelfor you and that is, I love that you said
that because that's literally the reasonwhy I made the rumble is that when I
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started comedy, I started doing open mics.
And then I got lucky because I met a guywho coached me and when he coached me,
he was a little more successful comic.
And so he had, he had shows on weekendswhere he would put me on to open.
So I got the opportunity about threemonths into my comedy career of opening
for a hot crowd on a Saturday night.
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Oh, fire.
That changed me because suddenly itwas like, it was like, I'd been kind of
playing down in the foothills and then allof a sudden I was up on the mountaintop
and I could see, I was like, Oh, this,this is the level where it can be at.
And so then when I went down into thisother, into this sort of other area where.
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It's an open mic crowd is justdifferent than a, than a weekend crowd.
I still had this memory, right?
I knew what that sounded like, soI could sort of play with it and
it helped me kind of move along.
And what I wanted to do with the rumbleis I wanted to give other comics who
were like me, who were starting out,who maybe didn't have the cred or the
relationships or whatever it is to,to be able to get on a weekend stage,
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I wanted to say, if you'll come here.
And you will, you'll bust your assand you'll do work and you'll do,
and you'll, you'll throw your energyinto this thing that I've created.
You will get the opportunity to steponto a hot weekend stage and you'll be
able to what that feels and feel whatthat feels like, and you'll be able to
experience what that does for your craft.
(47:01):
And that's dope.
Uh, the Rumble definitely, it definitelyhas the opportunity there for people to
do, like, I had to make a new Instagramafter the Rumble because people, because
my personal Instagram is set to private.
I really don't like, I like interactingwith people, making friends, whatever.
But I've learned that, like, you gottakeep the good stuff to yourself, right?
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You, like, this world, there's a lotof people out there who just, you know,
They don't hate you, but they hatethat, like, you, they don't have the
happiness, whatever, that you have.
When you're showing things andyou're sharing your happiness,
there are people that are tryingto take your happiness away.
So I keep my personal profileprivate, and that's for people
who, like, actually know me.
I want to talk to these people, da da da.
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I had ad, I was close to adding,like, 20 or 30 new people.
On my personal page that I'mlike, I like, no offense.
I'm glad you guys liked me.
I'm glad you guys want to follow me.
You're my fans.
I don't want you in my personal life.
I just want you to know meas the, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No kid cute.
And so I had to, and so, andthat's because of the rumble.
(48:04):
And so what you're doing, I appreciatethat because every week you get.
Or not every week, but every Rumble,you get a bunch of comics that
somebody probably hasn't heard of,and there's a lot of talent out there.
It's just the market's so flooded.
There's so much talent outthere in the, in the Rumble.
If you do it right, and it's executedright, you put the work in and
the crowd's there, you have a realopportunity to build momentum and, and
(48:29):
you can't dictate where you're going,but you're definitely able to push.
The direction that you want tobe in a little, a little bit in
the universe would do the rest.
And what I love about it too, is I'm, I'msort of coming from, coming at this from
a perspective of if I am, if I am, uh,disciplined and intentional in the way
(48:50):
that I give and create opportunities forother people, that will be good for me.
That, that me giving to other peoplewill sort of create this energetic
movement that will then come backand it will lift me up as well.
And so being able to really focuson that, it's like an energy orgy.
Exactly.
(49:14):
And what's beautiful about that isI have endless energy for giving.
If I believe that my giving justnaturally is going to bring me the things
that I need, I, I have endless energyfor putting people like you on shows.
I have endless energy for creatingopportunities to, cause I agree with you.
I, I go to open mics and I talk tocomics and I, I see these people out
(49:36):
here and, and there are, especiallyin low in the local comedy scenes
that I've seen in Salt Lake and in LasVegas, there are incredibly talented,
Funny and hardworking comics that somepeople will never get an opportunity
to see or experience because they'renot, because right now they're in this,
(49:59):
they're on this level and they're notlike selling out stadiums, but who says
you have to sell out a stadium in orderto be Uh, in order to be funny, right?
In order to have a awesome experience,you don't have to go like, sure, fucking
go to a stadium if that's where yourfavorite comic is, but also recognize that
you could come to a local comedy club andwith the right structure, you could see.
(50:22):
Incredibly funny shit.
Incredibly funny shit.
And it's just people wholive in your neighborhood.
It's just people.
And you never know whatyou're going to see.
I went to a mic one time.
It wasn't the open mic.
It was a, uh, was it theDirty at 1230 at South Point.
Right?
And I don't know how theyfind people to go on there.
(50:44):
So I was just there as a,in the crowd and this French
frilliquist comes up here, right?
And And I'm excited.
So I'm like, all right, thisis dope, you know, every, every
form of comedy is something.
But the way he's doing it is he'snot like not moving his mouth.
He's just covering his mouth.
So he has, he has the parrot orwhatever the fuck's on his arm.
(51:04):
He's like, so how's the weather today?
Oh, I don't know.
The weather's going pretty nice.
And I'm like, yo, this isn't real.
And so like the crowd, like, no, atfirst, there's a couple of laughs at
first, cause they think it's part of thebit and then he's going to jump into it.
His entire 10 minute set was himcovered, just having a conversation
with us and he doesn't slow down.
He doesn't stop.
He doesn't ask thecrowd's paying attention.
(51:26):
I'm the only one in the crowd laughing.
Because you don't have much of a,I don't give a fuck you have to
have to go up there and do bathsand triloquies for 10 minutes.
That's funny.
Everybody there was mad because theirtime, they felt their time's been wasted.
I'm like, yo, this is, thisguy's This is hilarious.
(51:47):
Even if he did waste their time,wasting someone's time with bad
ventriloquism at an open mic at 1230in Las Vegas is a spectacular joke.
That is spectacular.
And his ability to just fuckingown it and be like, yeah, this
is what we're doing, y'all.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
He's like, no,
I'm talking.
(52:07):
I'm talking and then I'm also talking.
Also talking.
Dude, I've had so much fun.
I do want to wrap this up and I wrap, Ilike to wrap up by asking two questions.
Um, and then I'll have, ifthere's anything you want to
pitch, you can pitch it and thenwe'll, we'll, we'll wrap it up.
Um, but on the subject of theapocalypse and the end of the world.
(52:29):
Um, I, I sort of think, like, I lookout at where we're at in America,
and to me, it looks like we are inthe final acts of the United States
of America, season 12 or whatever.
Okay.
And like all good seasons, youknow, there's going to be something
cataclysmic, something crazy.
(52:49):
But I also think that there is a lot of,I think there's a lot of opportunity when
things get crazy like they are right now.
And I think that the opportunity is that.
When, when things sort of get fuzzy,we can kind of remake the world.
And so what I'm interested in is, do yousort of see the fuzziness in the world?
(53:09):
And if there was a way where you could,if there's something from the old
world that you could sort of like letdie or be remade into the new world.
What would, what would youwant to, if you could, like,
you're, you're, you're the king.
You get to speak it into themicrophone and it becomes real.
What is that thing
from the old world To the new world?
Yeah.
What's, what's the thing calledold that, that need, that needs to
(53:31):
kind of like go into something new?
I think there needs tobe more street fights.
Yes.
Tell me more.
Yeah, I think, I think peoplegetting arrested if it's, if it's
too consent, like I would evensay duals, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
One second.
Oof.
I'm getting a call and I don't know why.
(53:53):
Can you hear me still?
Is everything, like,nothing's interrupted?
Yeah.
So you were
saying,
bring duels back.
Yeah.
Like, let's start with street fights.
Let's see how that goes.
Cause it used to be, you know, yougo out, you bump into somebody,
something happens, disagreement,whatever, whatever the case is, right?
You go out there.
Street fight and at theend of the day you go home.
It's all good.
(54:14):
Now, if you find somebody, youboth get arrested, you both go
to jail, boom, boom, boom, boom.
If, if there was a threat that you mighthave to get into a fight, more prevalent,
I think the world would be a better place.
I 100 percent agree.
When everybody had a revolver, wheneverybody had a revolver on the hip and
an Indian man, and it can be like, hey,12, we're going to shoot at each other.
(54:36):
There was less drama.
This guy might shoot me.
You know what I'm saying?
There should be.
I think, I think we need less logs.
I think we have gotten too soft as humans.
We are too, we are too comfortable.
We think that it's, wethink that death is bad.
And I do think that, I do think thatI don't like it when people die.
(54:56):
I think that that is asad thing when people die.
And I think that peoplecould die and get hurt more.
If they die, if people died and gothurt, if there were more immediate
consequences for stupid behavior, it Theworld would have less stupid people in it.
And so I think a street fight or aduel is a fantastic, we would have
fewer dumb racists if, if therewas a consequence for being right.
(55:21):
Like if, if I'm not walking down thestreet, I'm not actually racist to a
couple of, to someone who looks like you.
Cause you're going tobeat the shit out of me.
You're going to punchsomebody in the mouth.
You're going to punchsomebody in the mouth.
If you think you're going to hit in themouth, you're not going to say anything.
Right.
I love this.
Okay, great.
Four seconds.
(55:47):
I'm sorry, man.
Can I get like 30 secondsreal quick, really?
Yep.
Awesome.
Y'all leaving right now?
(56:31):
You don't care!
Yeah, I don't.
Hey, Preston.
I don't miss you.
I don't be here.
I just get to be with you.
Love and support.
Love and support.
Love and support.
(57:00):
Sorry about that, brother.
I got fat leaving.
No problem.
I'll just make, I'll make a note of it andwe'll, and we're about any wrapped anyway.
So I want to, I want to let you go.
So second question is, um, if we, if, ifthis apocalypse goes south and we have
to like start surviving in crazy ways.
What apocalyptic skill do youhave that you could teach me?
(57:24):
That I can teach you?
Yeah.
Uh, we can shoot dice.
I'm a really good, like, dice shooter.
So if we need to gamble from resources,I'll keep a pair of dice for me.
And obviously you gotta, causeyou gotta throw, you gotta snap.
There's a snap involvedwhen you're throwing dice.
And that's just that gamble.
You gotta, you gotta snap.
(57:45):
That's the limp wrist.
It's gotta be tight.
You can't, don't referenceit, it's the whole, yeah.
It's the You black people!
Like, like channel your inner quickness.
Okay,
mm.
Okay.
Mm.
Throw it.
After you're Hit it with a snack.
(58:09):
It's just like, uh huh.
I got, I got a case of water, I gota case of water, you got a banana.
Somebody's going home with both.
I'm going home with both.
Ah!
Ah, it's you.
Uh huh.
Yeah.
Uh huh.
Hopefully this time.
From now on, from now on you will be,because we will only have non racist, uh,
(58:29):
chance things involved in Comedy Rumble.
Dude, it was so fun tohave you on the podcast.
Where can people find you?
Is there anything that youwant to promote coming up?
Uh, talk about yourself.
Um, so KQ.
That's the name, don't wear it out, or do.
Uh, you can follow me on Instagram,kqcomedy, all one word, k y d q.
(58:50):
Uh, next week, which is December10th, there's the hand me down
mic at Zone Las Vegas, S O H N.
It's hosted by my good friend,it's George Louisville.
It's a once a month mic, uh, butit's open for, it's mostly a comic
mic, but they have it open forpoetry as well and spoken word.
And it's real dope venues in the attic ofthis like little vintage clothing store.
(59:14):
You go upstairs, it's a smallroom, probably 30, 40 people,
and it sells out every month.
It gets, it reaches capacityevery month, so if you want to
go, you got to get there quick.
They do it once a month, December10th is this month, and then I'm
co hosting the January event too.
We don't have a date for itjust yet, but if you follow on
Instagram, it's GeorgeLouisFool.
(59:35):
And hand me down Mike at hand me down,Mike, you'll get all the details for it.
And it's a really dope show, more localartists, familiar faces that you've seen.
And it's just a good way to pushthe community forward as far as
like everybody coming together.
And again, it sells out every time.
So if you want to come up and performin front of 30, 40 people, for sure,
(59:56):
guaranteed, this is the place to do it.
Awesome.
Cool.
I, and I'll, I'll grab any links thatyou have from those for those and
share them in the show notes as well.
Um, for me coming up this.
Probably coming out onFriday, December 6th.
So tonight I've got our comedyrumble in Salt Lake City at the
Rickles Room at the Wise Guys.
It's at nine o'clock.
Um, that's going to be thefirst one of our winter season.
(01:00:17):
So we've already done the fallseason and wrapped it for comedy
rumble up here in Salt Lake.
We're kicking off the new winterseason tomorrow night or tonight.
Um, cause we're recording Thursdaytonight, or December 6th at 9
PM at Wise Guys in Salt Lake.
And then next Sunday.
On the, uh, I think it's the 15th.
(01:00:38):
Let's see.
Yep.
On December 15th, I'll be back in Vegasfor Comedy Rumble 5, uh, at 930, the
wise guys and in the arts district again.
So if you want to come out and check outthat show, it's going to be super sick.
And again, you can always followme at The Fresh King Benjamin on
Instagram, uh, TikTok, and YouTube.
And, uh, that's it for us today.
(01:00:59):
So, thanks for coming on, man.
I appreciate you.
Hey, bro.
Thank you again.
Thanks for the opportunity.
Shout out Comedy Rumble, brother.
What you're doing is really, you'reputting your stamp on whatever.
There's not much that we can do inthis world that we have control over.
And what you do have controlover, you have full control over.
And it's really dope, brother.
You're doing a thing.
(01:01:19):
Thank you.
Awesome.
Thanks.
I appreciate that.
I, I feel that.
Uh, talk soon.
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